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sox63
11-01-2008, 07:08 PM
I'm seriously thinking of getting this car, and at R342k for the manual its sounds like good value.

153kw is also not bad, I'm willing to sacrifice on power to get all the creature comforts. And the SE is fully loaded, I mean the only option I could possibly add is a sunroof.

Anything comparable from Merc and I would have to take the C200K and load it with extras, and it still works out more than the Lexus.

Anyone had one? Or know someone who had one?

Feedback would be greatly appreciated.:)

JK8
12-01-2008, 10:10 AM
Im a German car fan, so my best option will be the Audi 2.0T with the S kit for 340k!

Lexus is good, good resale, solid car, decent looks and off course very luxurious. They solid and as for mileage it will run forever!!:p

Personally I would buy it, but its a good car!;)

adamr
12-01-2008, 10:14 AM
The Lexus is a great car ... aint going wrong at all ... my uncle had a IS250Se and he liked it so much that he bought the LS460 .. he had merc and BMW's before ... his sons are getting RS4's so id take it from him if he says it nice then it is bloody nice ...

sox63
12-01-2008, 11:36 AM
Im a German car fan, so my best option will be the Audi 2.0T with the S kit for 340k!

Lexus is good, good resale, solid car, decent looks and off course very luxurious. They solid and as for mileage it will run forever!!:p

Personally I would buy it, but its a good car!;)

The A4 is up for replacement this year, so resale value would take a dip.

And here I thought you would be saying it's Jap Cr@p. :D


The Lexus is a great car ... aint going wrong at all ... my uncle had a IS250Se and he liked it so much that he bought the LS460 .. he had merc and BMW's before ... his sons are getting RS4's so id take it from him if he says it nice then it is bloody nice ...

Sounds good. In fact the only thing "bad" people have to say about it is that it is made by Toyota.

That does it then my minds made up.

JK8
12-01-2008, 11:41 AM
I never knew theres a new A4. I know theres a facelift, they getting R8 style lights.

ToxicBunny
12-01-2008, 11:48 AM
facelift?... JK8 the facelift happened a while ago... the new model is coming out this year/next year..

JK8
12-01-2008, 11:54 AM
facelift?... JK8 the facelift happened a while ago... the new model is coming out this year/next year..

Ahh you right!! the new ones a good option!:p

JK8
12-01-2008, 12:44 PM
If I had your kind of money ill get this!! !35i!!:)

http://www.bmw.co.za/products/automobiles/1/coupe/download/BMW_1SeriesCoupe_PricelistJanuary08.pdf

BCO
12-01-2008, 01:04 PM
@ Sox, I'm a huge lexus fan, so normally, I'd say go for it... but there's one thing that's kinda turned me off the IS250. Apparently they all have rattly dashboards - that would be a deal breaker for me.

sand_man
12-01-2008, 01:08 PM
It's a no brainer really. Wait until this beaut arrives mid 2008, you won't regret it, I promise...


YouTube - New Audi A4

BCO
12-01-2008, 01:13 PM
It's a no brainer really. Wait until this beaut arrives mid 2008, you won't regret it, I promise...



Or get a new C-Class now.

sand_man
12-01-2008, 01:19 PM
Or get a new C-Class now.

ooooh... You a merc fan bluecollar?

Personally for me merc are totally over rated, they may be one of the most prestigious brands in the world but quite frankly, dynamically their product leaves much to be desired, all grunt and no finesse although the mid range c class is alot more composed then the outgoing model... nah... It's got to be the Audi...

Velenoso
12-01-2008, 01:25 PM
I drove that car for two weeks while I was in Durban last year. I was very impressed. It's a kickass car, really! I drove the automatic version with DVD player (the screen turns into a camera when you put the car in reverse!)

It's rock solid, I didn't experience any rattling of dashboard, etc

This year I'm planning on replacing my cars, (been driving Alfa's for years) I don't really know what to get. I'm thinking new C-Class, but waiting list is a pain in the ass, so the price is inflated. (I can get a 2006 S-Class for the same price!) or maybe new Alfa Spider :D My girlfriend wants me to get a four-door though... :o

BCO
12-01-2008, 01:27 PM
In terms of pure brand cachet, I do feel that Merc offers more than Audi/BMW/Lexus. Also the new C is very accomplished dynamically, apparently. My choice would be the C280 for a nice compromise between power and good fuel consumption. My problem with the A4 is that unlike the Merc, Beemer and IS250, the Audi is front wheel drive. If I were buying a compact sports saloon, RWD would be a necessity.

ToxicBunny
12-01-2008, 01:29 PM
BC : This is why you try get an Audi Quattro... plus I've driven the normal FWD Audi, they're just as dynamic as the RWD competitors...

sand_man
12-01-2008, 01:46 PM
BC : This is why you try get an Audi Quattro... plus I've driven the normal FWD Audi, they're just as dynamic as the RWD competitors...

Agreed.

The new A4 should be available with quattro AWD in the 3.2 petrol and 3.0 diesel model variants.

With the price of petrol I would opt for the diesel, 176kw apparently and buckets of torque and if you live on the reef very little power loss compared with the normally aspirated 3.2... going to be pricey though, like 450k pricey...

arf9999
12-01-2008, 01:58 PM
Lexus? I just think of this:

YouTube - Alan Partridge - First meeting with "Dan"

Picard
12-01-2008, 02:15 PM
342K, New mercs, bmw, audis, alfas ...Good Heavens people, what jobs do you have?

BCO
12-01-2008, 03:38 PM
My participation in this thread isn't based on actually being able to afford buying one of these :(

My car cost me R89k... the joys of working for an NGO.

sox63
12-01-2008, 09:10 PM
If I had your kind of money ill get this!! !35i!!:)

http://www.bmw.co.za/products/automobiles/1/coupe/download/BMW_1SeriesCoupe_PricelistJanuary08.pdf

Had I still been unmarried, I would have thought of it, but we planning to have a kid this year some time, so the Volvo C30 must go, and it would not make much sense getting the 1 series coupe.


@ Sox, I'm a huge lexus fan, so normally, I'd say go for it... but there's one thing that's kinda turned me off the IS250. Apparently they all have rattly dashboards - that would be a deal breaker for me.

I've test driven a few, and have not come across that problem, I'll ask the dealership.


Or get a new C-Class now.

The C-class was my first choice, but the C200k start at just under 300k, then add the avantgarde package, which is about 15k. That is just the basics, we have not even gotten to the extras yet. Example, the Command DVD based system of theirs is 20k. The interface is also complicated, that "mouse" controller thing is distracting when driving.

The touch screen based Lexus system is a lot easier.

sand_man
12-01-2008, 09:21 PM
New A4 reviewed on top gear

http://www.topgear.com/drives/A2/A4/roadtests/09/01.html

and autocar

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Audi-A4-2.0-TDI-SE/228513/

Wynsam
13-01-2008, 04:31 PM
I really like the exterior styling of the Lexus. It will last well goes reasonably well and should make most people happy.

I am being picky, but where is most of your car time spent-- behind the steering wheel. Thats where it falls down. Dash desgn is not up to its competitors. Too Tokyo by night for my liking. Plastics just not worth the money for me. I dont want to drive it every dayand feel the grade of the plastics used very day contributed to their profits at my expense! With the german three especially the Audi what you at like while you drive makes you feel good. The worst in my opinion is the Lexus followed closely by BMW and then a step to the Merc and the top one is undoubtedly the Audi.

My 2c worth.

Killove
30-01-2008, 04:58 PM
If I had your kind of money ill get this!! !35i!!:)

http://www.bmw.co.za/products/automobiles/1/coupe/download/BMW_1SeriesCoupe_PricelistJanuary08.pdf

just put in an order one on 10 minutes ago...
saphire black, black interior, sports steering wheel + paddleshift, xenon lights... 405k :(

JK8
30-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Sunroof?

BCO
30-01-2008, 05:05 PM
just put in an order one on 10 minutes ago...
saphire black, black interior, sports steering wheel + paddleshift, xenon lights... 405k :(

R400k for a 1 series? yeesh

Killove
30-01-2008, 05:16 PM
Sunroof?

oh yeah :( forgot about sunroof, lemme break it down :

Base : 364 000
Colour : 1 800 ( ???? )
Shift paddles on sports steering wheel : 17 700
Glass Sunroof, electric with sliding function : 8 600
Heated seating : 3 300
Xenon Headlights : 7 200
Licence and Registration : 2 850

Look on the face of the guy who I just ripped in his E92 M3 : Priceless

:D

JK8
30-01-2008, 05:22 PM
oh yeah :( forgot about sunroof, lemme break it down :

Base : 364 000
Colour : 1 800 ( ???? )
Shift paddles on sports steering wheel : 17 700
Glass Sunroof, electric with sliding function : 8 600
Heated seating : 3 300
Xenon Headlights : 7 200
Licence and Registration : 2 850

Look on the face of the guy who I just ripped in his E92 M3 : Priceless

:D

Lol

And 18" mag upgrade
10 speaker sound system
Bluetooth phone upgrade?

ToxicBunny
30-01-2008, 05:48 PM
R400k for that?

Thats not worth it...

Killove
31-01-2008, 07:20 AM
Lol

And 18" mag upgrade
10 speaker sound system
Bluetooth phone upgrade?

they standard with 18s, but ill put on new rims instead, i'm thinking type 4 schnitzer...

10 speaker sound system : nah :P
bluetooth : uh uh

im already spending too much money, my kids wont be able to go to college/high school/primary school/kresh because of this car!

:P

sox63
31-01-2008, 07:22 AM
I get to pick up my new baby, on Friday.:D:D:D

Killove
31-01-2008, 07:35 AM
I get to pick up my new baby, on Friday.:D:D:D

thats tomorrow!
what ya getting?
(sorry if youve mentioned previously in this post)

sox63
31-01-2008, 07:39 AM
thats tomorrow!
what ya getting?
(sorry if youve mentioned previously in this post)

The IS250 I started this thread about.:cool:

Killove
31-01-2008, 07:43 AM
The IS250 I started this thread about.:cool:

lol! this thread has been so derailed, i apologise...
congratulations man, I wish you well to drive it

wab512
31-01-2008, 02:09 PM
The IS250 I started this thread about.:cool:
I missed this thread for some reason.... Welcome to the Lexus club! You will not regret it ;-) I also have the IS250 (not the SE) and it's a great car!

Rixx
22-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Lexus IS 250 SE AUTOMATIC Features.
Cost ( R 377’600 )
(All features below are included in the price)

 Key-Less Entry & Egnition
 Cruise Control
 Automatic Dual Climate Control
 Electric Windows
 Multi-Function Trip information
 Automatic Headlights
 6 CD Front-Loading shuttle
 Electric seats
 Leather Seats
 AUX Plug-For IPOD connection
 Through Storage
 Full Spare wheel
 4 Year/100’000km Maintenance
 FRONT & REAR Parktronic
 Driver & Passenger Seat memory
 Rain sensing windscreen wipers
 Illumination entry system
 Front Seat Heating and Cooling
 Mark Levinson sound system (14 Speakers)
 Satellite Navigation
 Bluetooth connectivity
 Voice command
 Reverse camera for reversing
 17” Tyre’s and Rims
 Electro-chromatic mirrors
 Electrically adjustable steering wheel

I just had to list the Lexus PACKAGE to put things into perspective. Lexus has come a long way in South Africa since 1993 and I truely believe someday S.A may find itself resembling the US luxury car market with regards to Lexus.

dhez
22-04-2008, 03:52 PM
u better off going for the automatic verison its a little more with all those extras

Gatecrasher
22-04-2008, 04:13 PM
I bought a LS460 last year. Never had a moment's hassle. Its a great way to cope with JHB traffic logjams. Its just had its first annual service. Strangely enough, I've never been to a Lexus showroom or service centre. Even when I did the test drive they bought the car to my home. When I bought it, it was delivered. For the service, they collected and returned it. Nice.

Rixx
22-04-2008, 04:18 PM
You should check out one of the new Lexus facilities...the show-rooms look great.