Eskom nonsense now making world headlines

[jct]

Even the BBC are calling the 2010 World Cup into question. And what about this woman who needs oxygen to stay alive ... man oh man oh man :confused: :mad:

http://www.zoopy.com/video/detail/id/7650/

[Robin Hood]

1) South Africa = Circus
2) World Cup = Ticky the Clown

[Syndyre]

I wonder what FIFA thinks of all of this, wouldn't be surprised if the World Cup disappears soon.

[nocilah]

heh. if we get the world cup it will be something short of a miracle. when a country turns off power to mines you know the problem is bigger and badder then they claim!

FIFA is coming this year to do a progress inspection, so lets see what happens.

[Skinner]

heh. if we get the world cup it will be something short of a miracle. when a country turns off power to mines you know the problem is bigger and badder then they claim!

FIFA is coming this year to do a progress inspection, so lets see what happens.

You can be sure that during the inspection, no effort will be spared to ensure the deligates and their places of accomodation have more than enough electricity... even if it means loadshedding the rest of the whole f-ing country.
:mad:

[Syndyre]

You can be sure that during the inspection, no effort will be spared to ensure the deligates and their places of accomodation have more than enough electricity... even if it means loadshedding the rest of the whole f-ing country.
:mad:

Exactly, its all politics anyway, can you imagine the outcry from Africa if SA lost it? Colonial imperialism etc. :rolleyes:

[Ricard]

SA wont loose the WC2010 ... Sepp Blatter is so far on his 'poor africa' guilt trip that it wont move.

[Borg]

Why does it sound like the world is coming to an end in 2010? Everybody just seems to care about the World Cup, and doesn't seems to care that once it's over we will still have to go on living.

What about 2011 and onwards?

[Syndyre]

Why does it sound like the world is coming to an end in 2010? Everybody just seems to care about the World Cup, and doesn't seems to care that once it's over we will still have to go on living.

What about 2011 and onwards?

A lot of us'll be gone by then.:D

[nocilah]

well i can tell you now that the building of stadiums has already been hampered by load shedding. we all thinking of the actual event, we have yet to build half the infrastructure of the event.

also the gautrain project - they gonna miss that deadline too and if by some great miracle it is ready by 2009/10 i bet the day it launches it will get load shedded :D

nah - i said last year or the year before we WILL NEVER pull of a WC 2010. I was shot down for being negative etc etc and unpatriotic etc etc.

I will be honest - I had a revelation last year that moaning, groaning etc is pointless. We all want our country to be like a UK or an Australia, which is a noble hope. Nothing wrong with a dream or two, but if there is anything i know.

South Africa will remain a 3rd World for a very very very very long time. I am inclined to suggest we will NEVER be a 1st World.

[Moederloos]

Even the BBC are calling the 2010 World Cup into question. And what about this woman who needs oxygen to stay alive ... man oh man oh man :confused: :mad:

http://www.zoopy.com/video/detail/id/7650/

CNN said the same.


heh. if we get the world cup it will be something short of a miracle. when a country turns off power to mines you know the problem is bigger and badder then they claim!

FIFA is coming this year to do a progress inspection, so lets see what happens.

Mine power cuts is set to affect up to 5 MILLION people (The Star front page today - not sure of an online link for reference).
Thats 10% of the population.

Yeah - the **** has hit the fan big time.
Sasol has also been told to save power or be cut off.
Who can say "fuel shortage"?


SA wont loose the WC2010 ... Sepp Blatter is so far on his 'poor africa' guilt trip that it wont move.

Then, Ricard, his head deserves to roll. He is charged with ensuring a successful WC, not a "white guilt wash".


Why does it sound like the world is coming to an end in 2010? Everybody just seems to care about the World Cup, and doesn't seems to care that once it's over we will still have to go on living.

What about 2011 and onwards?

Because, it will be the biggest single statement to the world of how incompetent the ANC are - if the WC is pulled from us this year, and it does not affect the polls in 2009, nothing will.



if by some great miracle it is ready by 2009/10 i bet the day it launches it will get load shedded :D

And burnt within seconds! :D
Viva!

[alf101]

You can be sure that during the inspection, no effort will be spared to ensure the deligates and their places of accomodation have more than enough electricity... even if it means loadshedding the rest of the whole f-ing country.
:mad:

Think one of them got mugged in Durban last time they were here...

[Moederloos]

Think one of them got mugged in Durban last time they were here...

I vote we all turn on all our appliances as often as possible while they are here.
Maybe we can blow the grid.

[bekdik]

SA wont loose the WC2010 ... Sepp Blatter is so far on his 'poor africa' guilt trip that it wont move.

I disagree. If Blatter begins to sniff a disaster, plan B WILL be implemented

[Moederloos]

I disagree. If Blatter begins to sniff a disaster, plan B WILL be implemented

I agree - I doubt he is a fool.
It is his honour and legacy on the line here.
Rather be considered the man who almost fell for the "Africa can do it card", than the man who did.

[Syndyre]

I agree - I doubt he is a fool.
It is his honour and legacy on the line here.
Rather be considered the man who almost fell for the "Africa can do it card", than the man who did.

I doubt its solely his decision to make anyway, there must be some sort of board or committee. But the government will probably guarantee to do anything necessary, including shutting down mines etc. to ensure power during the tournament.

[Moederloos]

I doubt its solely his decision to make anyway, there must be some sort of board or committee. But the government will probably guarantee to do anything necessary, including shutting down mines etc. to ensure power during the tournament.

They probably would make those promises.
However, the FIFA people are not the ANC voter base - they are capable of rational thought.
They will realise, like we do, that no mines = 5 million people with no food.
And they will realise that hungry, desperate people are a threat.

They will realise that the stadiums also do not operate in a vacuum - that the tourist who spends 2 weeks here for the WC, will only spend 2, maybe 6, hours in a stadium, and the rest of the time he will need water, food, shelter, and so on.

No - I doubt the ANC can promise anything that FIFA will not see through as a false promise. Not at this stage.

And, if they(FIFA) DO go ahead, let the blood of killed tourists be on their heads if the power is indeed turned off in all industry and the populace riots.

[Robin Hood]

But WHY did they take SO long to do something about the power business? It just does'nt make f'n SENSE!!! DAMN.....whish i could just for 1 min think like they do...just to get some "basic" idea...:(

[Moederloos]

whish i could just for 1 min think like they do...just to get some "basic" idea...:(

Get blind drunk, smoke some wacky weed, and pass out.
The time between then and when you regain consciousness is as close as you are likely to get - short of a lobotomy.

[Syndyre]

They probably would make those promises.
However, the FIFA people are not the ANC voter base - they are capable of rational thought.
They will realise, like we do, that no mines = 5 million people with no food.
And they will realise that hungry, desperate people are a threat.

They will realise that the stadiums also do not operate in a vacuum - that the tourist who spends 2 weeks here for the WC, will only spend 2, maybe 6, hours in a stadium, and the rest of the time he will need water, food, shelter, and so on.

No - I doubt the ANC can promise anything that FIFA will not see through as a false promise. Not at this stage.

And, if they(FIFA) DO go ahead, let the blood of killed tourists be on their heads if the power is indeed turned off in all industry and the populace riots.

I really wouldn't be surprised if SA does lose it soon, expect leaks from unnamed FIFA sources about the possibility soon, i.e. FIFA testing the waters to see what reaction they get.

[Moederloos]

I really wouldn't be surprised if SA does lose it soon, expect leaks from unnamed FIFA sources about the possibility soon, i.e. FIFA testing the waters to see what reaction they get.

The other "problem" is FIFA will look and say "hmmm, this ain't likely to improve - and if we leave it to 2009, then it will be too late for another country to take over - it is now or never".

[Syndyre]

What is the backup plan anyway, Germany again?

[Moederloos]

What is the backup plan anyway, Germany again?

I tend to think so - too lazy to check. :p

[daveza]

Australia I believe.

Won't they just love that !

[Moederloos]

Australia I believe.

Won't they just love that !

hehe - cool. Might still be able to see it in my home country then!
:D

[Robin Hood]

I really wouldn't be surprised if SA does lose it soon, expect leaks from unnamed FIFA sources about the possibility soon, i.e. FIFA testing the waters to see what reaction they get.

Thx...Will remember this tip :D

[PeterCH]

Maybe they'll cancel the 2010 cup and will skip that year altogether. It will surely be a blemish as all future generations will know: "In 2010 there was no World Cup as the South African government screwed it up for everyone." :)

[Alchemist]

Had calls today from family and friends in Australia, Netherlands and the UK saying that this is all over the news there and wanting to know how we were doing.

[Robin Hood]

Had calls today from family and friends in Australia, Netherlands and the UK saying that this is all over the news there and wanting to know how we were doing.

At least this shows the govt cant hide from the truth :mad:

[Chris]

I heard the back-up countries were actually the UK and France. Do Australia even have football stadiums? (I know they can convert grounds...but cricket/AFL grounds aren't exactly the correct shape for a football pitch)

[Moederloos]

At least this shows the govt cant hide from the truth :mad:

Won't stop them from trying, though.

[Robin Hood]

Won't stop them from trying, though.

The quickest way to get this country back again, or at least try to, is to put the white guys who use to be in top positions ie management etc, back again...Doesn matter HOW you look at it :sick:

[StrongTurd]

In my humble opinion FIFA got themselves into a Catch 22 situation here. If they keep the 2010 Cup in SA, they'll have to live with the very real possibility that it will be an utter disaster.

However, if they pull the plug on SA it will put the ANC clowns on the moral high ground. They'll start by claiming racism (obviously) and will then say that these Eskom issues were just temporary and that Africa was robbed by the Western imperialists. They'll claim that SA would have been able to host a spectacular SWC, setbacks notwithstanding.

This situation will leave FIFA in an untenable situation. As white South Africans know all too well, there is no effective countermeasure to the race card when played by an African. Doesn't matter what you do, you cannot win. In this scenario FIFA will look real bad.

[Moederloos]

The only way to counter the race card is to ignore it.
The more you ignore it, the more it is played. Which eventually just makes the person playing it look like the fool he (or she) is.

[The_Librarian]

Not only that, but also take into account the thousands of people who took out loans to improve their houses to offer bed and breakfast facilities for tourists...

Things are looking grim at the moment :(

[Robin Hood]

Not only that, but also take into account the thousands of people who took out loans to improve their houses to offer bed and breakfast facilities for tourists...

Things are looking grim at the moment :(

Youre telling me...I feel sorry for THOSE guys...Just heard...Internet Cafe's are also busy closing ..This whole f'n COUNTRY is busy shutting down :eek:

[stefan9]

Maybe they'll cancel the 2010 cup and will skip that year altogether. It will surely be a blemish as all future generations will know: "In 2010 there was no World Cup as the South African government screwed it up for everyone." :)

They won't skip it. They have more than enough countries in Europe who could host it tomorrow. Australia and America also wants the world cup and could probably host it in two years time if Fifa gave them the chance.

Fifa will pull the plug if they need to on SA. The world cup is their cash cow without it they get in serious financial trouble.

[Moederloos]

Youre telling me...I feel sorry for THOSE guys...Just heard...Internet Cafe's are also busy closing ..This whole f'n COUNTRY is busy shutting down :eek:

A whole mini shopping "cluster" was opened this month near our offices.
Already those businesses are in danger of closing.
Imagine opening a hair salon, and within one week of opening, you need to either close, or buy a generator big enough to run all those hairdryers and "hairdryer machines" (the ones the ladies sit under - whatever they are called).

[Robin Hood]

A whole mini shopping "cluster" was opened this month near our offices.
Already those businesses are in danger of closing.
Imagine opening a hair salon, and within one week of opening, you need to either close, or buy a generator big enough to run all those hairdryers and "hairdryer machines" (the ones the ladies sit under - whatever they are called).

Remember...generators runs on fuel. The minimum cost is +- R9/hour for SMALL stuff...just immagine large businesses

[Moederloos]

Remember...generators runs on fuel. The minimum cost is +- R9/hour for SMALL stuff...just immagine large businesses

Yeah - my little one uses 1l per hour.
A company in Sandton claims 260l an hour for theirs.
The company I used to work for years ago had a new one installed this week - 100l or so an hour is what the owner estimated when I spoke to him.
We have a "baby" 40KW one at work - being installed Monday - that should also be 20-40l an hour.


And Sasol has been asked to reduce electricity consumption...