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kaspaas
28-01-2008, 09:02 AM
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20080128023535736C373448


Quotas for homes based on history - Eskom

January 28 2008 at 04:54AM

By Bronwyn Gerretsen

Rolling blackouts are set to continue in KwaZulu-Natal this week, with Eskom aiming at implementing power rationing within three months.

Quotas for homes and business will be based, in part, on the history of a consumer's power consumption throughout 2007.

This emerges from Eskom statements showing individual consumption histories of companies and households will be among factors taken into consideration in the rationing formula. The actual way in which quotas will be enforced will be determined during the coming weeks.

'prevent a cascade of problems'
This follows the announcement by Public Enterprises Minister Alec Erwin on Friday that quotas would be used to curb the use of power. South African households will have to shed 10 percent of their power usage, and commercial and large offices 15 percent.

Andrew Etzinger, general manager of Eskom's demand-side management, said: "This formula will not be devised and implemented by Eskom. It is driven by the government and we will be engaging with stakeholders.




All consumers would be given a fixed limit of electricity and a system of penalties and rewards would be implemented if consumers used more or less than their allocated quotas.

He added that consumers should not wait until quotas were announced before cutting back on their power usage.

"People should also not now use more power in the short term so that they get a bigger quota when the system is put in place. We will be looking at consumption levels in 2007," he said.

Etzinger said that people who used a small amount of power last year would not necessarily be limited to that amount when quotas were implemented. However, if they continued to conserve energy and use less than their quota, they could be rewarded.

In the same way, consumers who used large amounts of power last year would not necessarily be given that amount in their quota, he said.

Meanwhile, load-shedding looks set to continue this week.

Last week the imbalance between demand for electricity and Eskom's capacity to supply reached an unprecedented level with Eskom shedding 4 000 MW. Stage three, the last and most severe stage on the blackout schedule, caters for shortages up to 4 500 MW.

Asked what would happen once this level was reached, Etzinger said drastic action would need to be taken to "prevent a cascade of problems".

"This means that we would have to start manually load-shedding our large industrial customers. Last week we informed them we were in trouble and advised them of the risks of us not being able to supply them being high. We urgently requested them to reduce power, which they did," he said.

Meanwhile, mining companies were allowed to resume underground maintenance work on Sunday.

Mineral extraction, however, was still not permitted.

An overwhelming number of South African TV viewers on Sunday night expressed a lack of confidence in Eskom's ability to rectify the power crisis.

M-Net invited viewers to SMS their views. More than 100 000 SMS responses showed viewers had no confidence in Eskom - compared with about 1 000 who did.

kaspaas
28-01-2008, 09:04 AM
Ok, so I will be penalised for my frugal habits on saving electricity during my lifetime.

My geyser is set at 45C, my fridge on no too cold. I'm using only energy efficient globes.

And on top, I'm out of the country for many weeks a year - with everything switched of (I'm single)

This is going to be thanks for nothing!

Nick333
28-01-2008, 09:14 AM
Seriously, who has any confidence in a quota system implemented by the usual gang of idiots a.k.a our present, Mbeki, led government?

Moederloos
28-01-2008, 09:15 AM
Ok, so I will be penalised for my frugal habits on saving electricity during my lifetime.

My geyser is set at 45C, my fridge on no too cold. I'm using only energy efficient globes.

And on top, I'm out of the country for many weeks a year - with everything switched of (I'm single)

This is going to be thanks for nothing!

Yeah - those who tried to conserve power when asked to after the "bolt incident" are going to be rolled over and @#$@ed in the #$$.

Thanks ANC - glad to see that the nice guy does indeed finish last in the Rainbow Nation.

Nick333
28-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Yeah - those who tried to conserve power when asked to after the "bolt incident" are going to be rolled over and @#$@ed in the #$$.

Thanks ANC - glad to see that the nice guy does indeed finish last in the Rainbow Nation.

Not to mention that the biggest household consumers aren't going to sweat paying fines for going over their quota every month.

The_Librarian
28-01-2008, 09:21 AM
.!.. at that idea - it won't work.

Especially as my wife's starting a nursery school, and we'll be using more power, especially when making food for the hungry ones.

So they can go and stuff themselves if we go over our cap - I'll sic a lawyer on them if it comes to that.

Moederloos
28-01-2008, 09:23 AM
.!.. at that idea - it won't work.

Especially as my wife's starting a nursery school.

Yeah - I always think of your example when I respond to these outrageous "plans".

You could well land up worse off by starting a small business, than by remaining unemployed.

CathJ
28-01-2008, 09:25 AM
Yup. And as I said in another thread:


What if your meter readings were mostly estimated in 2007? What if you moved houses - is usage tracked by person, or by house? What about rentals - if the person in the house I'm renting used less electricity than I do, should I be held to their average? (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=102631&page=5)

and as Moederloos added:


What about people, who, at the end of 2007:
had a baby
installed pools
built on
opened home offices
added a "cottage"
installed additional security measures (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=102631&page=6)

kaspaas
28-01-2008, 09:51 AM
Fairest would be a quota per household.

There is no way in which they could establish and maintain a reliable register of the number of occupants in each home.

Obviously, the quotas allocated to Mbeki, Zuma and the various majors also need to be public knowledge!

Moederloos
28-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Fairest would be a quota per household.


No. It still does nothing to prevent the punishing of people who have always been frugal, or became more frugal when asked to in 2006/2007.

Syndyre
28-01-2008, 10:07 AM
Well I moved into my new place at the beginning of Dec 2007 and was only there for a few days so I didn't exactly use much power. Does this mean I'm going to have to stock up on fscking candles? :mad:

Moederloos
28-01-2008, 10:12 AM
Well I moved into my new place at the beginning of Dec 2007 and was only there for a few days so I didn't exactly use much power. Does this mean I'm going to have to stock up on fscking candles? :mad:

You average for 2007 was 120Kw.
So you get to use 10Kw-20% per month in 2008.
yeah, get some candles.

/joke

CathJ
28-01-2008, 10:31 AM
Well I moved into my new place at the beginning of Dec 2007 and was only there for a few days so I didn't exactly use much power. Does this mean I'm going to have to stock up on fscking candles? :mad:

No, it depends on how much the person in the place before you used.

Unless it's a brand new building, in which case, yup, better stock up on candles.

Syndyre
28-01-2008, 10:34 AM
No, it depends on how much the person in the place before you used.

Unless it's a brand new building, in which case, yup, better stock up on candles.

It is a brand new building. :eek: Only thing that might save me is its prepaid so maybe I can stock up on a massive amount of power before the rationing starts.

HavocXphere
28-01-2008, 11:37 AM
It is a brand new building
Find an official to bribe. Carrot-on-a-stick is the only way to get
these peoples @rses into gear. Besides, its tradition. :sick:

Dolby
28-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Well I moved into my new place at the beginning of Dec 2007 and was only there for a few days so I didn't exactly use much power. Does this mean I'm going to have to stock up on fscking candles? :mad:



Similar issue here - cept that there was only ONE person before me who was out very often. We moved in early December and there are 3 of us :/

Moederloos
28-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Future Property Ad:

For Sale: Large 4 bedroom house, swimming pool, full bathroom, nice kitchen.
Electric fence and all the trimmings. Used to be occupied by a family of 20 - who used the Jacuzzi daily!

Syndyre
28-01-2008, 12:28 PM
Find an official to bribe. Carrot-on-a-stick is the only way to get
these peoples @rses into gear. Besides, its tradition. :sick:

I'll probably just use what I need to and tell them where to shove it when/if they come complain. At least there's a whole complex of people facing the same problem so its not just me, hopefully they'll make a plan.


Similar issue here - cept that there was only ONE person before me who was out very often. We moved in early December and there are 3 of us :/

Good luck, think we're going to need it. :eek:

Syndyre
28-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Future Property Ad:

For Sale: Large 4 bedroom house, swimming pool, full bathroom, nice kitchen.
Electric fence and all the trimmings. Used to be occupied by a family of 20 - who used the Jacuzzi daily!

ROFL!! :D