M1nistry
08-02-2008, 10:29 PM
Is guild wars better than WoW? Bacause WoW looks awesome.
View Full Version : GW vs. WoW
diabolus
08-02-2008, 10:52 PM
..look for the zillion other threads about this subject.
In short :
Wow = not free , GW = free .
WoW = Massive Seamless World , GW = Arena Focussed
I'd almost go as far as saying
WoW = Morrowind/Oblivion , GW = Unreal Tournament/Counterstrike
[Obviously WoW have some GW elements and vice versa, but the focus difference is obvious]
In short :
Wow = not free , GW = free .
WoW = Massive Seamless World , GW = Arena Focussed
I'd almost go as far as saying
WoW = Morrowind/Oblivion , GW = Unreal Tournament/Counterstrike
[Obviously WoW have some GW elements and vice versa, but the focus difference is obvious]
eltherza
11-02-2008, 12:05 PM
Is guild wars better than WoW? Bacause WoW looks awesome.
If you got the money and 30 friends on WoW, go for WoW.
Me, I prefer GW, when I'm not playing it, it doesn't feel like i'm wasting money (monthly subscription) and I dont need 30 people to kill the "last" boss :P
If you got the money and 30 friends on WoW, go for WoW.
Me, I prefer GW, when I'm not playing it, it doesn't feel like i'm wasting money (monthly subscription) and I dont need 30 people to kill the "last" boss :P
Scooby_Doo
11-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Wait for gw2 will be wow but free :)
Oculate
11-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Ill believe that when i see it tbh
TheShogun
11-02-2008, 02:40 PM
WoW and GW are 2 totally different games.
GW isn't a true MMO but rather an Instanced MMO so comparing them is moot.
In the end it's all down to what you enjoy personally. I've tried both and WoW appealed to me more so I play wow.... a lot.
GW isn't a true MMO but rather an Instanced MMO so comparing them is moot.
In the end it's all down to what you enjoy personally. I've tried both and WoW appealed to me more so I play wow.... a lot.
FalconZA
13-02-2008, 01:43 PM
WoW and GW are 2 totally different games.
you are right, they are very different..........GW is crap, wow isnt :D
you are right, they are very different..........GW is crap, wow isnt :D
Joy-Energiser
26-03-2008, 01:49 PM
From what i can tell the the pve department is quite shallow in comparison to WoW, but then again WoW was designed to keep you playing forever and paying Subs.
GW has quite a balanced and competitive PvP System,(WoW is also competitive but not balanced)
Its more focused on Teamplay and group combinations that have a rock,paper scissor effect.With limited spell choices for more tactical gameplay, while WoW is more item focused which basically means the more you play the better items you get, with huge Time sinks required to even become competitive in PvP,Once again keep you playing make them richer.While in GW it takes very little time in pvp to be competitive,but Mucho Team Play.
GW has quite a balanced and competitive PvP System,(WoW is also competitive but not balanced)
Its more focused on Teamplay and group combinations that have a rock,paper scissor effect.With limited spell choices for more tactical gameplay, while WoW is more item focused which basically means the more you play the better items you get, with huge Time sinks required to even become competitive in PvP,Once again keep you playing make them richer.While in GW it takes very little time in pvp to be competitive,but Mucho Team Play.
Oculate
26-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Its more focused on Teamplay and group combinations that have a rock,paper scissor effect.With limited spell choices for more tactical gameplay, while WoW is more item focused which basically means the more you play the better items you get, with huge Time sinks required to even become competitive in PvP,Once again keep you playing make them richer.While in GW it takes very little time in pvp to be competitive,but Mucho Team Play.
Gogo henchies in FOW! :D
Gogo henchies in FOW! :D
Pitbull
26-03-2008, 02:01 PM
I played both and ended up on wow, let me tell you what made me decide on WoW.
GW, you only see and interact with people inside towns. The economy is rather messed up and the gear is confusing.
WoW played it after my Guildwars run for about 3 months.
WoW you run with people all over the game not just in towns, while doing quests you run into people who might be doing the same quest and team up. Or they might be 50 lvl's higher than you and help you just because their borred (aka Boosting)
The fun part is the PvP in WoW.
In GW you have arena's only for PvP. In WoW you can PvP any place any where (PvP server). If not you roll on a Normal server and only PvP when you want to. In both the above you still have arenas also which is great fun.
The gear is easy to understand and customise the way you like it, meaning enchants gems and so forth. Gear is easy to understand and there is about 6 different classes you can play, one will suite your play style.
Anyway that is my 2c
GW, you only see and interact with people inside towns. The economy is rather messed up and the gear is confusing.
WoW played it after my Guildwars run for about 3 months.
WoW you run with people all over the game not just in towns, while doing quests you run into people who might be doing the same quest and team up. Or they might be 50 lvl's higher than you and help you just because their borred (aka Boosting)
The fun part is the PvP in WoW.
In GW you have arena's only for PvP. In WoW you can PvP any place any where (PvP server). If not you roll on a Normal server and only PvP when you want to. In both the above you still have arenas also which is great fun.
The gear is easy to understand and customise the way you like it, meaning enchants gems and so forth. Gear is easy to understand and there is about 6 different classes you can play, one will suite your play style.
Anyway that is my 2c
Oculate
26-03-2008, 04:16 PM
Imho the gear in GW is easier... You have your gear that you can upgrade (which costs materials + money / using the collectors for gear upgrades) and you can 'enchant' it with Runes :p Ill admit the economy is rather hectic: WTS q9 20/20 15^50 max Emerald Swirly Sword 100k + 80e! (I understand that sadly) as well as the insane pricing of extremely rare mini-pets (check gwwiki... 1 or 2 actually go for 5000k!)
Atm i'm playing both :) Rushing a dervish thru Nightfall to get to HM DOA runs while raiding 5/7 times a week in BT/MH, not to mention a 8-5 job :D
Atm i'm playing both :) Rushing a dervish thru Nightfall to get to HM DOA runs while raiding 5/7 times a week in BT/MH, not to mention a 8-5 job :D
tooone7
26-03-2008, 11:15 PM
i never played GW, new to the MMORPG's u see.. :p but WoW is awesome!! the only thing i HATE is the subscription :( but the gameplay is great :cool:
crysis
26-03-2008, 11:46 PM
you are right, they are very different..........GW is crap, wow isnt :D
Do i smell some fan boy in you?
Do i smell some fan boy in you?
Pooky
27-03-2008, 10:37 AM
Obviously Guild Wars. Who wants to pay?!?!?
Pitbull
27-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Obviously Guild Wars. Who wants to pay?!?!?
The people that can :p
The people that can :p
Solid_snake62
28-03-2008, 05:44 PM
Question: How Long Does a Character Last In both Games? ie: Max Char Level? I mean like Neverwinter Nights 2 was Gr8 but then you get level 20 and then you go awww ... my character is maxed out? Im not interested in items,i want extensive character growth, and if both of these are mainly item based like titans quest(level 20 guy gets his but whooped by a level 1 with magic items is so blah),then i wont bother with either then,i want one mega power full character that you can see has killed 1000+ okes...not multiple ones because my original is maxed .
Pitbull
31-03-2008, 12:53 PM
Question: How Long Does a Character Last In both Games? ie: Max Char Level? I mean like Neverwinter Nights 2 was Gr8 but then you get level 20 and then you go awww ... my character is maxed out? Im not interested in items,i want extensive character growth, and if both of these are mainly item based like titans quest(level 20 guy gets his but whooped by a level 1 with magic items is so blah),then i wont bother with either then,i want one mega power full character that you can see has killed 1000+ okes...not multiple ones because my original is maxed .
WoW is balanced and what you're looking for as per your question.
There is no way a person of any build would be able to kill another which is even 5 lvl's higher than him. And the level difference as it is today can be 1 - 70 as for the expansion coming out it will be 1 - 80. Meaning a lvl 68 char can't kill a lvl 70 char, however the lvl 68 can kill the lvl 65 players and so forth. There is no way a lvl 1 player can kill a lvl 10 player and so forth.
On lvl to lvl combat it's mainly about gear and little skill as opposed to skill only. So the more you play the longer you farm to get gear the stronger you are for lvl on lvl combat. Anyway, hope you choose what is good for you and not what we tell you :p
WoW is balanced and what you're looking for as per your question.
There is no way a person of any build would be able to kill another which is even 5 lvl's higher than him. And the level difference as it is today can be 1 - 70 as for the expansion coming out it will be 1 - 80. Meaning a lvl 68 char can't kill a lvl 70 char, however the lvl 68 can kill the lvl 65 players and so forth. There is no way a lvl 1 player can kill a lvl 10 player and so forth.
On lvl to lvl combat it's mainly about gear and little skill as opposed to skill only. So the more you play the longer you farm to get gear the stronger you are for lvl on lvl combat. Anyway, hope you choose what is good for you and not what we tell you :p
Oculate
31-03-2008, 04:21 PM
There is no way a lvl 1 player can kill a lvl 10 player and so forth.
i believe there are youtube vids of low level rogues (1,5 or 10 cant remember) taking on guys 10-15 levels higher than them
i believe there are youtube vids of low level rogues (1,5 or 10 cant remember) taking on guys 10-15 levels higher than them
Pitbull
31-03-2008, 04:30 PM
i believe there are youtube vids of low level rogues (1,5 or 10 cant remember) taking on guys 10-15 levels higher than them
lol, ok I'm not saying a raid of lvl 1's vs a lvl 10 ofc :D
Damn that must be a sight to see, you just gave me an idea
lol, ok I'm not saying a raid of lvl 1's vs a lvl 10 ofc :D
Damn that must be a sight to see, you just gave me an idea
Oculate
31-03-2008, 04:38 PM
Sorry, i didn't mean lvl 1 plural...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lvl+1+wow+twink&search_type=
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lvl+1+wow+twink&search_type=
Pitbull
31-03-2008, 04:40 PM
Sorry, i didn't mean lvl 1 plural...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lvl+1+wow+twink&search_type=
hehe no i know what you mean, lets say 20 lvl 5's jumping lvl'ng Alliance in Westfall, all Rogues :eek: :D
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lvl+1+wow+twink&search_type=
hehe no i know what you mean, lets say 20 lvl 5's jumping lvl'ng Alliance in Westfall, all Rogues :eek: :D
Oculate
31-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Lol... good idea :)
Lydon
31-03-2008, 05:13 PM
The games are completely different, so comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges. If I was you...I'd play both xD I do. WoW fills the gap in the social aspect and eats up alot of time, so I go all hardcore on it. Guild Wars, on the other hand, is completely skill based meaning level and items means hardly a thing, which is amazing for PvP. Guild Wars you can also just jump into whenever you want, and updates are usually released on a weekly basis. It can satisfy the hardcore player too.
diabolus
31-03-2008, 05:25 PM
Im not interested in items,i want extensive character growth
WoW is ALL about gear and items, period. You'll hit level 70 quite easily and never actually used any of your abilities [i.e. alot of classes got a "healer" build which is a horrible build to level with for obvious reasons...so only at lvl 70 you start using it]. So at lvl 70 you still end up changing your talent/specs [think diablo and resetting those talent trees you put points into] and relearning to play the char.
However at the end the day, once you hit lvl 70 there's no more "character growth" . You can tinker with your talent/build somewhat but ultimately you'll be going for better gear.
WoW is ALL about gear and items, period. You'll hit level 70 quite easily and never actually used any of your abilities [i.e. alot of classes got a "healer" build which is a horrible build to level with for obvious reasons...so only at lvl 70 you start using it]. So at lvl 70 you still end up changing your talent/specs [think diablo and resetting those talent trees you put points into] and relearning to play the char.
However at the end the day, once you hit lvl 70 there's no more "character growth" . You can tinker with your talent/build somewhat but ultimately you'll be going for better gear.
Claymore
01-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Question: How Long Does a Character Last In both Games? ie: Max Char Level? I mean like Neverwinter Nights 2 was Gr8 but then you get level 20 and then you go awww ... my character is maxed out?
In GW, 20th is max...but that's relatively near the beginning of the game. Once you're at 20th, and you have all your ability points, you use your skill in choosing and using skills and heroes, and in tracking down and capturing good elite skills. It's very flexible in that regard.
With respect to the MMORPG aspect: I don't want to play with thousands of other people around. I want to the quests myself, or with a couple of friends on my team. It's nice to see other players in towns, but I don't want them out in the world with me.
In GW, 20th is max...but that's relatively near the beginning of the game. Once you're at 20th, and you have all your ability points, you use your skill in choosing and using skills and heroes, and in tracking down and capturing good elite skills. It's very flexible in that regard.
With respect to the MMORPG aspect: I don't want to play with thousands of other people around. I want to the quests myself, or with a couple of friends on my team. It's nice to see other players in towns, but I don't want them out in the world with me.
Ink_Blotch
17-04-2008, 11:29 PM
Wow is better - I have tried both. The question is whether or not you want to pay the subscription, but I do believe it's worth it. It's three years down the line and I am still logging onto WoW every night. That says something...
Oculate
18-04-2008, 10:25 AM
I enjoy both, when wow gets boring i get involved in GW, and visa versa
Glordit
19-04-2008, 01:39 PM
I like GW, to me WOW is spam... spam... spam.. and try not to get bullied and killed by other players, I did not like the pve/pvp mix.
GW' pvp is great specialy when you get into RA & AB I don't care much for TA & HA all they do all day is "ping" "ping" :p
The pve part is even better, with hero's/henchies I have managed to complete Nightfall and Prophecies with very little help from other people, not that I did not want any it was just a little fun to see how far I could go. (okay needed help with second last mission in NF :) )
As for character levels so what if the cap's lvl 20 I have over 2 million XP points on my primary character and I supppose will rack up alot more when attaning more titles :)
There is just so much to do in GW it's maaad from farming to titles to pvp :D man I wish my GW was working.... :mad:
GW' pvp is great specialy when you get into RA & AB I don't care much for TA & HA all they do all day is "ping" "ping" :p
The pve part is even better, with hero's/henchies I have managed to complete Nightfall and Prophecies with very little help from other people, not that I did not want any it was just a little fun to see how far I could go. (okay needed help with second last mission in NF :) )
As for character levels so what if the cap's lvl 20 I have over 2 million XP points on my primary character and I supppose will rack up alot more when attaning more titles :)
There is just so much to do in GW it's maaad from farming to titles to pvp :D man I wish my GW was working.... :mad:
silvister
28-04-2008, 10:47 AM
i think Gw is better because it is free, :p
Gargmel
28-04-2008, 05:48 PM
2 completely different and unrelated games, they just both happen to me mmorpg.
SunnyCash
30-04-2008, 10:43 AM
I can't believe there is even a comparison. I have played both and I personally must admit that WoW offers more but they are not the same games and should not be compared.
Voicy
30-04-2008, 12:13 PM
i think Gw is better because it is free, :p
Thats like saying you prefer watching SABC over DSTV because it's free :p
I started WoW this week, been playing guild wars on and off since 06. I haven't gotten very far since I got bored by the character interaction in GW.
WoW is very attractive although the GW characters look muuuuch more refined and better in their kits. Not as blocky as WoW. If they had a GW ranger in WoW i wouldn't look back.
I prefer the open playing world of WoW as opposed to GW where you go through loading screens every 5mins.
The fact that you can choose a race and then a class is also much cooler than choosing a class specific race as you do in GW.
All in all, I'd have to say GW was amazing fun - and can be at any time since it's free... WoW on the otherhand will be thoroughly enjoyed as long as you play lots.
What it boils down to is this:
If you're not going to play that much , get guild wars. It's amazing!
If you can afford subscription and/or be able to play enough each month to warrant the subscription, then WoW will rock your socks off!
It's also alot more interesting to see real life characters running around past you be they friend of foe. In that sense ... I haven't come across it yet myself, but I hear the okes on TS go mad when they're battling someone. It's soooo much better fighting hordes of real people vs NPC's
Unless you form a group, Guild Wars is pretty much a single player game against the computer with very little player-to-player interaction (aside from trade posts)
Lastly, I've found that strangers in WoW are much friendlier than in GW. I've battled monsters in the forest and a random oke runs past and klaps me with a health shield of sorts and then goes on his merry way.
Whichever you go for, you'll still enjoy!
Thats like saying you prefer watching SABC over DSTV because it's free :p
I started WoW this week, been playing guild wars on and off since 06. I haven't gotten very far since I got bored by the character interaction in GW.
WoW is very attractive although the GW characters look muuuuch more refined and better in their kits. Not as blocky as WoW. If they had a GW ranger in WoW i wouldn't look back.
I prefer the open playing world of WoW as opposed to GW where you go through loading screens every 5mins.
The fact that you can choose a race and then a class is also much cooler than choosing a class specific race as you do in GW.
All in all, I'd have to say GW was amazing fun - and can be at any time since it's free... WoW on the otherhand will be thoroughly enjoyed as long as you play lots.
What it boils down to is this:
If you're not going to play that much , get guild wars. It's amazing!
If you can afford subscription and/or be able to play enough each month to warrant the subscription, then WoW will rock your socks off!
It's also alot more interesting to see real life characters running around past you be they friend of foe. In that sense ... I haven't come across it yet myself, but I hear the okes on TS go mad when they're battling someone. It's soooo much better fighting hordes of real people vs NPC's
Unless you form a group, Guild Wars is pretty much a single player game against the computer with very little player-to-player interaction (aside from trade posts)
Lastly, I've found that strangers in WoW are much friendlier than in GW. I've battled monsters in the forest and a random oke runs past and klaps me with a health shield of sorts and then goes on his merry way.
Whichever you go for, you'll still enjoy!
Lydon
30-04-2008, 04:00 PM
Thats like saying you prefer watching SABC over DSTV because it's free :p
Actually, not...
A fairer comparison would be between two satellite providers who had exactly the same number of channels, but different channels. The one being free and the other not. It boils down to preference. What channels are you interested in? Are specific channels worth paying for when the other company provides just as good, if not better channels of the same type? Does the content you're interested in exist only in one company's offering? :)
Actually, not...
A fairer comparison would be between two satellite providers who had exactly the same number of channels, but different channels. The one being free and the other not. It boils down to preference. What channels are you interested in? Are specific channels worth paying for when the other company provides just as good, if not better channels of the same type? Does the content you're interested in exist only in one company's offering? :)
Devill
30-04-2008, 05:15 PM
Actually, not...
A fairer comparison would be between two satellite providers who had exactly the same number of channels, but different channels. The one being free and the other not. It boils down to preference. What channels are you interested in? Are specific channels worth paying for when the other company provides just as good, if not better channels of the same type? Does the content you're interested in exist only in one company's offering? :)
+1 :)
GW has my vote because of the need for skills not for grinding :)
oooo and the pvp is the best :D
A fairer comparison would be between two satellite providers who had exactly the same number of channels, but different channels. The one being free and the other not. It boils down to preference. What channels are you interested in? Are specific channels worth paying for when the other company provides just as good, if not better channels of the same type? Does the content you're interested in exist only in one company's offering? :)
+1 :)
GW has my vote because of the need for skills not for grinding :)
oooo and the pvp is the best :D
Glordit
01-05-2008, 08:59 AM
+1 :)
GW has my vote because of the need for skills not for grinding :)
oooo and the pvp is the best :D
Skills are best in GW get a Great build and you can pretty much take on anything :)
Just try, Shadow stepping a control point in AB and using Djinn's haste, Fire burst and Star burst and see what happens! :p
GW has my vote because of the need for skills not for grinding :)
oooo and the pvp is the best :D
Skills are best in GW get a Great build and you can pretty much take on anything :)
Just try, Shadow stepping a control point in AB and using Djinn's haste, Fire burst and Star burst and see what happens! :p
faust
05-05-2008, 11:50 AM
See no mention of LOTRO ?
Voicy
05-05-2008, 11:59 AM
Good point Lydon
I've only played WoW for a week now and i'm starting to see all the differences. I loved GW, but WoW grips me more...
as you said, it all boils down to preference. :)
I've only played WoW for a week now and i'm starting to see all the differences. I loved GW, but WoW grips me more...
as you said, it all boils down to preference. :)
Glordit
05-05-2008, 12:11 PM
Good point Lydon
I've only played WoW for a week now and i'm starting to see all the differences. I loved GW, but WoW grips me more...
as you said, it all boils down to preference. :)
Noooo! we lost another!! :p
I've only played WoW for a week now and i'm starting to see all the differences. I loved GW, but WoW grips me more...
as you said, it all boils down to preference. :)
Noooo! we lost another!! :p
RoosTa
05-05-2008, 12:14 PM
See no mention of LOTRO ?
Read the title ;)
Read the title ;)
Jonny Two Shoes
05-05-2008, 01:16 PM
I haven't played WoW but I was pretty good at one stage with GW. The one thing that put me off WoW and the one gripe I have is the monthly subscriptions.
Firstly I understand that this monthly fee goes into more development and therefore a better outcome for the gamers...however could they not have thought of a better system? I pay some dollars just for a months access...then I go away one weekend to the 'berg...the other weekend I'm studying..and the other weekend the family wants me to be around etc etc etc....I have wasted an entire months sub for what?
I have paid x amount for the game already in any case so it is a tad frustrating to have to pay a monthly to look at the darn thing now and then :(
Secondly I don't have a credit card...I don't really want one...so now am I stuck? How do I pay for the monthly? No one in my family trusts their credit details online so that won't help :(:(
Thirdly, like GW, why couldn't WoW developers only charge for add-ons and items and leave the rest who simply want to play it as is? This would have IMO created a much larger fan base to what is suprisingly pretty big anyway.
Like I said though, I have never played WoW so my facts could be off...but aren't these typical barriers that most potential newcomers would perceive anyway? Like Vendetta and Savage2 which I believe is possible on Linux....what games these seem to be!!!! yet it's a monthly sub....no thanks :( I try long and hard just to save up for the hardware and game + Internet Cap and Telkom as it is.
Firstly I understand that this monthly fee goes into more development and therefore a better outcome for the gamers...however could they not have thought of a better system? I pay some dollars just for a months access...then I go away one weekend to the 'berg...the other weekend I'm studying..and the other weekend the family wants me to be around etc etc etc....I have wasted an entire months sub for what?
I have paid x amount for the game already in any case so it is a tad frustrating to have to pay a monthly to look at the darn thing now and then :(
Secondly I don't have a credit card...I don't really want one...so now am I stuck? How do I pay for the monthly? No one in my family trusts their credit details online so that won't help :(:(
Thirdly, like GW, why couldn't WoW developers only charge for add-ons and items and leave the rest who simply want to play it as is? This would have IMO created a much larger fan base to what is suprisingly pretty big anyway.
Like I said though, I have never played WoW so my facts could be off...but aren't these typical barriers that most potential newcomers would perceive anyway? Like Vendetta and Savage2 which I believe is possible on Linux....what games these seem to be!!!! yet it's a monthly sub....no thanks :( I try long and hard just to save up for the hardware and game + Internet Cap and Telkom as it is.
Voicy
08-05-2008, 11:52 AM
Johnny , I felt exactly the same ... only until I started playing WoW.
Wait until you experience your first ganking encounter with the horde. Unlike GW where you only interact with other people in outposts - WoW has people ANYWHERE. so while you're in the forest being klapped by a beast - a random person will come by and assist - then run off again (Alliance okes are nice that way :p)
This also means that the enemy can attack you at any point in the game - anywhere.
It's really awesome coming across one - then killing him/her - who then call their big buddies to moer you...and you call yours in return. More often than not a single feud or simple fight between two low level characters turns into one huge mob fest.
Here are some points that sold the game to me:
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
Travelling:
Your movement is also much better. You can buy a mount (tiger/horse/whatnot) at lvl40 and an epic mount (orsm tiger/kief horse/ elephant etc.) at lvl 60. Much later on u can get an epic flying mount @ lvl 70. And yes - you can pretty much fly anywhere.
You can also travel by boat to lots of places or fly on a griffin. It's THE most amazing scenery when you fly between places - and since there are no cutscenes you see EVERYTHING all the time. You even see other players riding griffins on the way back past you :)
Skills:
Unlike GW where each class is human, with WoW you can select just about any race and assign any class to him/her. certain races offer better points to specific classes etc.
Professions:
Aside from being a hunter/warrior/whatnot, you can select 2 main professions. These are completely separate from your fighting skills, for instance:
Mining/skinning/herbalism as gathering skills or tailoring/enchanting/blacksmithing/engineering/leatherworking as a crafting skill. So you can pretty much gather ur own material and make your own armor/weapons/whatnot - or sell it on...
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
Teamwork:
People pay alot for this game and try not to spoil it for each other - i've found (well on the EU servers anyway) ... when you're killing bunnies in a quest and someone else rocks up - they generally leave if u ask nicely instead of competing the whole time. It's also nice to give help and receive it when something is attacking a fellow player - whether you know them or not. It's always nice to have a random priest run past and cast a protective spell on you and then run off.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
Payment:
Sure its expensive - but only if you don't play it enough to warrant the subscription fee. If you're not heavy into gaming , dont bother. you'll just end up hating it for taking your money. If you are prepared to spend sufficient time on it, you will not get better value entertainment for that amount of time and money in a month. (unless you know some really cheap scurvey-free hookers) It automatically deducts from your C/C - and if you don't have one or trust the NET with it - you can always buy gaming cards from any pc gaming shop. Scratch the card and enter the key. Hey presto - you're sorted. You can buy more than 1 card instead of going back to the shop every month and just use it when you need to.
Modding:
You can add lots of little side programs which makes the game easier. They're not cheats since theyre Blizzard approved, but they do make things alot easier. i.e.: auctioneer that helps you with pricing (and remembers latest prices etc.), or chartographer which is a better mapping system, or even mods changing your interface so your button layouts are more user friendly. Literally every person's interface looks different.
You can get a free 10 day trial account just to check out the game. Just get the game files from someone and you're set to go. But be warned - you'll be hooked!
Wait until you experience your first ganking encounter with the horde. Unlike GW where you only interact with other people in outposts - WoW has people ANYWHERE. so while you're in the forest being klapped by a beast - a random person will come by and assist - then run off again (Alliance okes are nice that way :p)
This also means that the enemy can attack you at any point in the game - anywhere.
It's really awesome coming across one - then killing him/her - who then call their big buddies to moer you...and you call yours in return. More often than not a single feud or simple fight between two low level characters turns into one huge mob fest.
Here are some points that sold the game to me:
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
Travelling:
Your movement is also much better. You can buy a mount (tiger/horse/whatnot) at lvl40 and an epic mount (orsm tiger/kief horse/ elephant etc.) at lvl 60. Much later on u can get an epic flying mount @ lvl 70. And yes - you can pretty much fly anywhere.
You can also travel by boat to lots of places or fly on a griffin. It's THE most amazing scenery when you fly between places - and since there are no cutscenes you see EVERYTHING all the time. You even see other players riding griffins on the way back past you :)
Skills:
Unlike GW where each class is human, with WoW you can select just about any race and assign any class to him/her. certain races offer better points to specific classes etc.
Professions:
Aside from being a hunter/warrior/whatnot, you can select 2 main professions. These are completely separate from your fighting skills, for instance:
Mining/skinning/herbalism as gathering skills or tailoring/enchanting/blacksmithing/engineering/leatherworking as a crafting skill. So you can pretty much gather ur own material and make your own armor/weapons/whatnot - or sell it on...
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
Teamwork:
People pay alot for this game and try not to spoil it for each other - i've found (well on the EU servers anyway) ... when you're killing bunnies in a quest and someone else rocks up - they generally leave if u ask nicely instead of competing the whole time. It's also nice to give help and receive it when something is attacking a fellow player - whether you know them or not. It's always nice to have a random priest run past and cast a protective spell on you and then run off.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
Payment:
Sure its expensive - but only if you don't play it enough to warrant the subscription fee. If you're not heavy into gaming , dont bother. you'll just end up hating it for taking your money. If you are prepared to spend sufficient time on it, you will not get better value entertainment for that amount of time and money in a month. (unless you know some really cheap scurvey-free hookers) It automatically deducts from your C/C - and if you don't have one or trust the NET with it - you can always buy gaming cards from any pc gaming shop. Scratch the card and enter the key. Hey presto - you're sorted. You can buy more than 1 card instead of going back to the shop every month and just use it when you need to.
Modding:
You can add lots of little side programs which makes the game easier. They're not cheats since theyre Blizzard approved, but they do make things alot easier. i.e.: auctioneer that helps you with pricing (and remembers latest prices etc.), or chartographer which is a better mapping system, or even mods changing your interface so your button layouts are more user friendly. Literally every person's interface looks different.
You can get a free 10 day trial account just to check out the game. Just get the game files from someone and you're set to go. But be warned - you'll be hooked!
FalconZA
08-05-2008, 12:29 PM
WoW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GW
nuff said.....
nuff said.....
Devill
08-05-2008, 12:37 PM
lol, cant wait for GW2
Gw is for people who have real lives 2 :D
Gw is for people who have real lives 2 :D
Voicy
08-05-2008, 12:39 PM
WoW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GW
nuff said.....
FalconZA ... to be fair - if you read above , they're actually vastly different games.
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
nuff said.....
FalconZA ... to be fair - if you read above , they're actually vastly different games.
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
Oculate
08-05-2008, 01:48 PM
FalconZA ... to be fair - if you read above , they're actually vastly different games.
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
Id post wow's bad side... but id get shunned from the myadsl wow community ;)
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
Id post wow's bad side... but id get shunned from the myadsl wow community ;)
Claymore
08-05-2008, 01:57 PM
Voicy, as you said, they are very different games, with different appeals.
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
The scene changes are only between areas, or in outposts, and a 5-10 second load doesn't bother me when it's only once every 30+ minutes. (If I'm clearing areas, every couple of hours).
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
I really, really wish GW had some sort of trading post. I often get semi-valuable items, and just flog them to the merchant for 200 gold when I could get a couple of thou if I could be bothered to sell them in an outpost.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
I don't like that. I don't mind interacting with other people, but I play for myself. It's cool to go on missions with the odd friend or my wife, but I'm not really interested in seeing other people outside the outposts.
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
The scene changes are only between areas, or in outposts, and a 5-10 second load doesn't bother me when it's only once every 30+ minutes. (If I'm clearing areas, every couple of hours).
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
I really, really wish GW had some sort of trading post. I often get semi-valuable items, and just flog them to the merchant for 200 gold when I could get a couple of thou if I could be bothered to sell them in an outpost.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
I don't like that. I don't mind interacting with other people, but I play for myself. It's cool to go on missions with the odd friend or my wife, but I'm not really interested in seeing other people outside the outposts.
Dr@g0nic
08-05-2008, 02:16 PM
Gw Ftwr
Oculate
08-05-2008, 02:18 PM
I enjoy both, i've got friends in both, and love swapping between the 2.
Voicy
09-05-2008, 09:16 AM
It's prolly like comparing F1 to WRC ... both are motor racing - but completely different.
*even tho we all know there are no sissies in the WRC :p*
*even tho we all know there are no sissies in the WRC :p*
Jonny Two Shoes
09-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Question. Why could they not have tried making coupons or subscriptions based on time as well? For someone like me who would really love to give it a try but is worried I won't have enough time in a month on occasion. I really would prefer it if I could purchase say 100 hours of gameplay instead. Is there something like this for WoW? Then at least I can use it at my convenience and it rolls over unlike the Telkom cap like mentality :/
Oculate
09-05-2008, 03:05 PM
Other than the 10 day trial
theres a 60 day time card.
theres a 60 day time card.
Lydon
09-05-2008, 03:17 PM
Some Eastern territories, such as China make use of an hour-based system due to their laws. As a result players purchase hour vouchers which they then use. Sadly we can only make use of the subscription/30-60 day time cards.
Voicy
13-05-2008, 04:57 PM
See ... now a Play-as-you-go voucher would be AWESOME ... that way you get your full money's worth. I'm sure they thought of this and deliberately went along the monthly route to force players to be online more often as well as ensure a constant stream of income.
these okes make > $10Billion a year from subscription alone. To them it's not a game.
these okes make > $10Billion a year from subscription alone. To them it's not a game.
efitol
15-05-2008, 01:13 PM
Wow is better - I have tried both. The question is whether or not you want to pay the subscription, but I do believe it's worth it. It's three years down the line and I am still logging onto WoW every night. That says something...
ummm, that u dont have a life? :p
/flame suit ON!
ummm, that u dont have a life? :p
/flame suit ON!
Glordit
16-05-2008, 08:03 AM
Voicy, as you said, they are very different games, with different appeals.
The scene changes are only between areas, or in outposts, and a 5-10 second load doesn't bother me when it's only once every 30+ minutes. (If I'm clearing areas, every couple of hours).
I really, really wish GW had some sort of trading post. I often get semi-valuable items, and just flog them to the merchant for 200 gold when I could get a couple of thou if I could be bothered to sell them in an outpost.
I don't like that. I don't mind interacting with other people, but I play for myself. It's cool to go on missions with the odd friend or my wife, but I'm not really interested in seeing other people outside the outposts.
only problem I have with GW is... Trading in GW is a bit clunky, got to stand in town and spam what you got and then it's a case of how much you want/go/need.
I was playing Hell's with a Random Group, about 2/3rd through some dude decides he/she will start to take all the loot we never picket up... and where saving for mission completion :mad:
Therefore the Hero's system does it for me! I have done just about every mission with hero's and they never complain or steal your loot! :D + They look cool in thier Elite armours :p Heck got my Protector of Elona title just playing with Hero's!
The scene changes are only between areas, or in outposts, and a 5-10 second load doesn't bother me when it's only once every 30+ minutes. (If I'm clearing areas, every couple of hours).
I really, really wish GW had some sort of trading post. I often get semi-valuable items, and just flog them to the merchant for 200 gold when I could get a couple of thou if I could be bothered to sell them in an outpost.
I don't like that. I don't mind interacting with other people, but I play for myself. It's cool to go on missions with the odd friend or my wife, but I'm not really interested in seeing other people outside the outposts.
only problem I have with GW is... Trading in GW is a bit clunky, got to stand in town and spam what you got and then it's a case of how much you want/go/need.
I was playing Hell's with a Random Group, about 2/3rd through some dude decides he/she will start to take all the loot we never picket up... and where saving for mission completion :mad:
Therefore the Hero's system does it for me! I have done just about every mission with hero's and they never complain or steal your loot! :D + They look cool in thier Elite armours :p Heck got my Protector of Elona title just playing with Hero's!
Zyklon_b
25-08-2008, 12:54 AM
How did someone steal your loot ? GW has character specific item drops, as in it drops for a specific character... This for me was what diablo originally needed...
Anyway, i played both, but played WoW after GW and must say, I was very dissapointed with WoW, the graphics didnt get close to GW, and no map travel ? wtf? and can anyone tell me y the towns are that big ? Why not use a district system like GW it works great, and you dont run for 10 minutes crosstown.
My 2c.
Anyway, i played both, but played WoW after GW and must say, I was very dissapointed with WoW, the graphics didnt get close to GW, and no map travel ? wtf? and can anyone tell me y the towns are that big ? Why not use a district system like GW it works great, and you dont run for 10 minutes crosstown.
My 2c.
thrakath
25-08-2008, 11:43 AM
I enjoyed WoW more then GW, mainly due to WoW not being instanced which allows for much more player interaction. My highlights were 40 man raids to BWL and Naxx. Definitely my favourites.
In PVE, WoW wtfbbqpwns all. PVP in Gw is better, but in all honestly, if you are after PVP MMO's, EVE online is the business. Few things feel more rewarding, than soloing a guy in a Vagabond with only a Crow. Ah... I love the smell of pod goo in the morning.
Fair warning though, EVE personifies the word, "Unforgiving". Mistakes cost you. A lot.
In PVE, WoW wtfbbqpwns all. PVP in Gw is better, but in all honestly, if you are after PVP MMO's, EVE online is the business. Few things feel more rewarding, than soloing a guy in a Vagabond with only a Crow. Ah... I love the smell of pod goo in the morning.
Fair warning though, EVE personifies the word, "Unforgiving". Mistakes cost you. A lot.
dakeyras
28-08-2008, 06:05 PM
You cant really make a blanket statement by saying one is better than the other. A more true comparison would be to say I prefer one over the other. For me I prefer WoW because of raiding. Spending 3 hours wiping on a boss, and then finally getting it right is just awesome. GW simply does not have that endgame raiding experience that WoW has.
HideInLight
29-08-2008, 02:11 PM
I prefer Guild Wars. Best value for money in my book. They bringing out a pack with all four campaigns for R350 soon.
Don't have to sacrifice your life to start having fun in Guild Wars. Easier to team up and play with friends (best COOP game ever). PvP is quickly accessable and there's always a game going and people to play with.
Each campaign kinda ends up like this. Newby and Main isle. You level up to 20 in Newbie Isle. When you reach the main isle you can switch between Campaigns. So that's basically more than half the game you don't have to worry about level differences.
WoW never impressed me in anyway...Not enough to get me to lvl 70 where the game 'suppose to start'
Don't have to sacrifice your life to start having fun in Guild Wars. Easier to team up and play with friends (best COOP game ever). PvP is quickly accessable and there's always a game going and people to play with.
Each campaign kinda ends up like this. Newby and Main isle. You level up to 20 in Newbie Isle. When you reach the main isle you can switch between Campaigns. So that's basically more than half the game you don't have to worry about level differences.
WoW never impressed me in anyway...Not enough to get me to lvl 70 where the game 'suppose to start'
mars92
17-09-2008, 06:33 PM
I haven't played either but hope to play soon, what kind of internet speeds do u need to play any (that is the main problem in my decision :(.) because i have iburst which is uncapped on local servers (South African) and after my cap is finished it goes down to like 10kb/s (really bad), is it possible to play any online game at that speed. please help
Dr@g0nic
18-09-2008, 08:32 AM
Haha I used to play Guild Wars on GPRS if that helps...
Voicysaurous
18-09-2008, 09:55 AM
I haven't played either but hope to play soon, what kind of internet speeds do u need to play any (that is the main problem in my decision :(.) because i have iburst which is uncapped on local servers (South African) and after my cap is finished it goes down to like 10kb/s (really bad), is it possible to play any online game at that speed. please help
I started playing GW on 56k dialup.
When i played with computer characters it was fine, in a group of friends i'd take longer to load between maps and they'd have to wait all the time.
I started playing GW on 56k dialup.
When i played with computer characters it was fine, in a group of friends i'd take longer to load between maps and they'd have to wait all the time.
mars92
18-09-2008, 04:04 PM
thanx, guys I'm going to go with guild wars:D
mars92
18-09-2008, 04:06 PM
thanx guys, I'm going to go with guild wars:D
Dr@g0nic
18-09-2008, 04:16 PM
See you Ingame.... next month that is, since my caps wasted.
Voicysaurous
18-09-2008, 04:40 PM
I'm still on n00b island with my lvl 10 dood in Nightfall. I havent played for so long I can't even remember the name of the class with the Scythe :( EDIT: *Dervish*
My prophecies hunter is also still lvl 10, But I dont really dig post-searing Ascalon. Somebody forgot to water the plants.
My prophecies hunter is also still lvl 10, But I dont really dig post-searing Ascalon. Somebody forgot to water the plants.
Lydon
18-09-2008, 07:36 PM
Post-searing Ascalon is but the tip of the iceberg compared to the rest of the game. You'll quickly move into the Shiverpeak mountains.
P.S. It's a Ranger, not Hunter ;)
P.S. It's a Ranger, not Hunter ;)
HideInLight
18-09-2008, 11:08 PM
Guild Wars Complete Collection
http://www.take2.co.za/games-guild-wars-complete-collection-pc-dvd-rom-2595175.html
Wow(not WoW) they released it already. R361 for all four chapters. R347 at Kalahari.
http://www.kalahari.net/games/Guild-Wars-Complete-Collection/372/33118406.aspx
The single chapters are now R136...on preoder for now though. I'm actually quite jealous now. Had to pay R300 for my factions when it came out. Life is just not fair!!!
http://www.take2.co.za/games-guild-wars-complete-collection-pc-dvd-rom-2595175.html
Wow(not WoW) they released it already. R361 for all four chapters. R347 at Kalahari.
http://www.kalahari.net/games/Guild-Wars-Complete-Collection/372/33118406.aspx
The single chapters are now R136...on preoder for now though. I'm actually quite jealous now. Had to pay R300 for my factions when it came out. Life is just not fair!!!
Lydon
19-09-2008, 09:39 AM
I did too, but I "replaced" Factions and Nightfall with the Collector's Editions which I payed R250 and R200 for, which was a bargain.
shadowfox
23-09-2008, 10:29 AM
I wonder how GW2 will compare to WoW though - seeing as how they're removing the whole instancing thing. Or at least that's how I understand it.
Devill
23-09-2008, 10:39 AM
I wonder how GW2 will compare to WoW though - seeing as how they're removing the whole instancing thing. Or at least that's how I understand it.
Mostly but not 100% of it, also it wont be instances as we know them from GW1 :)
I just don't hope that the game is outdated by the time it is released :eek:
Mostly but not 100% of it, also it wont be instances as we know them from GW1 :)
I just don't hope that the game is outdated by the time it is released :eek:
shadowfox
23-09-2008, 10:48 AM
I somehow don't think that will be a problem.
NCSoft delayed the release of the beta (it was supposed to be released round-about now), since they wanted to keep the surprise - apparently one of the developers was quoted as saying it will completely blow us away.
Personally, I'm looking forward to being blown away - sounds pleasant :P
NCSoft delayed the release of the beta (it was supposed to be released round-about now), since they wanted to keep the surprise - apparently one of the developers was quoted as saying it will completely blow us away.
Personally, I'm looking forward to being blown away - sounds pleasant :P
Devill
23-09-2008, 10:50 AM
I somehow don't think that will be a problem.
NCSoft delayed the release of the beta (it was supposed to be released round-about now), since they wanted to keep the surprise - apparently one of the developers was quoted as saying it will completely blow us away.
Personally, I'm looking forward to being blown away - sounds pleasant :P
Lol, I just don't like being over hyped :p
But I love GW and I am sure I will love GW2 :D
NCSoft delayed the release of the beta (it was supposed to be released round-about now), since they wanted to keep the surprise - apparently one of the developers was quoted as saying it will completely blow us away.
Personally, I'm looking forward to being blown away - sounds pleasant :P
Lol, I just don't like being over hyped :p
But I love GW and I am sure I will love GW2 :D
HideInLight
25-09-2008, 04:13 PM
I'm gonna miss the feeling of killing stuff and knowing that they won't respawn in a few seconds..
Voicysaurous
29-09-2008, 03:45 PM
when is GW2 due for release anywho?
With all this hype about WAR, AoC, Whatnot ... if anything is going to replace WoW, It'll be the new and improved GW
With all this hype about WAR, AoC, Whatnot ... if anything is going to replace WoW, It'll be the new and improved GW
Devill
29-09-2008, 03:48 PM
when is GW2 due for release anywho?
With all this hype about WAR, AoC, Whatnot ... if anything is going to replace WoW, It'll be the new and improved GW
They were planning to bring out a beta end of this year I think, but then the said that they are moving it to beginning 2009.
With all this hype about WAR, AoC, Whatnot ... if anything is going to replace WoW, It'll be the new and improved GW
They were planning to bring out a beta end of this year I think, but then the said that they are moving it to beginning 2009.
shadowfox
29-09-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't think they've set a definite date yet - at best I've heard that its due for release somewhere around the middle of next year.
The beta was due for release round about now, but that was pushed back to next year as well - ArenaNet said it was due to the fact that they didn't want to spoil the surprise.
The beta was due for release round about now, but that was pushed back to next year as well - ArenaNet said it was due to the fact that they didn't want to spoil the surprise.
Lydon
29-09-2008, 04:07 PM
Next year :)
Vegeta
29-09-2008, 04:18 PM
GW account anyone??
http://mybroadband.co.za/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/7029/cat/500
http://mybroadband.co.za/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/7029/cat/500
Voicysaurous
30-09-2008, 09:07 AM
I think with all this WAR / AOC / whatnot hype I'll stick to wotlk until gw2 comes out. Hopefully by then Fable2 is available on pc as well :D
Ludjer
06-10-2008, 10:43 PM
WOW>GW anyday
look who has more players and more play time
look who has more players and more play time
Lydon
07-10-2008, 12:26 AM
WOW>GW anyday
look who has more players and more play time
So MacDonald's is better than the elite restaurant around the corner because they have more stores? Logic logic...
look who has more players and more play time
So MacDonald's is better than the elite restaurant around the corner because they have more stores? Logic logic...
shadowfox
07-10-2008, 09:17 AM
WOW>GW anyday
look who has more players and more play time
Another fanboy? :rolleyes:
It's up to personal preference ... besides Guildwars has millions of copies sold. It's also a younger game than WoW. GW is also under continuous development, and is permanently being patched, adjusted and updated. And you don't get charged for the support or to play the game. That's the big bonus for me.
look who has more players and more play time
Another fanboy? :rolleyes:
It's up to personal preference ... besides Guildwars has millions of copies sold. It's also a younger game than WoW. GW is also under continuous development, and is permanently being patched, adjusted and updated. And you don't get charged for the support or to play the game. That's the big bonus for me.
Jabberwocky
07-10-2008, 10:07 AM
havent played wow, so i dont qualify for comment on gw being better or worse.
That said.. for me no game can be good enough to justify buying it each month.
a Problem i have with guildwars is that last night i was in a town and there was no-one on any of the districts to do the mission with me.
That said.. for me no game can be good enough to justify buying it each month.
a Problem i have with guildwars is that last night i was in a town and there was no-one on any of the districts to do the mission with me.
shadowfox
07-10-2008, 10:10 AM
That does happen sometimes, especially during the week.
What outpost and what campaign were you in?
What outpost and what campaign were you in?
Jabberwocky
07-10-2008, 10:46 AM
factions, cant remember the oupost. Mission 9 - have to fight that dragon
shadowfox
07-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah, I've noticed that factions can get a little quiet sometimes, especially outside Kaineng. Most of the people seem to be on Nightfall and Eye of the North - and Prophecies, strangely enough, doesn't seem too quiet either.
Lydon
07-10-2008, 11:50 AM
That's because the Factions PvE campaign in relation leaves much to be desired.
shadowfox
07-10-2008, 11:55 AM
That's because the Factions PvE campaign in relation leaves much to be desired.
Pretty much ... Nightfall is by far my favourite campaign of the three. Had to get Factions though to get hold of the Assassin class - but Dervish is still my favourite ... followed by Ele's :D
Pretty much ... Nightfall is by far my favourite campaign of the three. Had to get Factions though to get hold of the Assassin class - but Dervish is still my favourite ... followed by Ele's :D
Lydon
07-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Pretty much ... Nightfall is by far my favourite campaign of the three. Had to get Factions though to get hold of the Assassin class - but Dervish is still my favourite ... followed by Ele's :D
I love Prophecies the most by far. I'll never forget those moments I shared with people back when Prophecies was the only campaign. I miss those days!
I love Prophecies the most by far. I'll never forget those moments I shared with people back when Prophecies was the only campaign. I miss those days!
JoseQuervo
07-10-2008, 06:16 PM
I don't have any fancy statistics to show you which game is better. I'll just bring it down to fun factor and personal preference. Personally I love WoW, I actually gave up on it last February because I couldn't balance WoW, exams, work and a girlfriend.
Recently I finished my studies and I've had some more free time so I decided to buy GuildWars : The Complete Collection from BTGames. All I can say is that I have never been more bored with a game in my life. I literally dozed off twice in the 10 hours I put into the game trying to find the fun factor.
The reason that I didn't pick WoW again is that I'm waiting for WoTLK before resuming the game, since just about all current game equipment will be obsolete when the expansion gets released it would just be a waste of time and money to farm new gear at present.
As I said before, it boils down to personal preference, I'm sure alot of folks on this forum would disagree with my opinion and I'm sure they have a fantastic time in Guild Wars, honestly I wish I could say the same so that I wouldnt feel that my money has been wasted on it.
Recently I finished my studies and I've had some more free time so I decided to buy GuildWars : The Complete Collection from BTGames. All I can say is that I have never been more bored with a game in my life. I literally dozed off twice in the 10 hours I put into the game trying to find the fun factor.
The reason that I didn't pick WoW again is that I'm waiting for WoTLK before resuming the game, since just about all current game equipment will be obsolete when the expansion gets released it would just be a waste of time and money to farm new gear at present.
As I said before, it boils down to personal preference, I'm sure alot of folks on this forum would disagree with my opinion and I'm sure they have a fantastic time in Guild Wars, honestly I wish I could say the same so that I wouldnt feel that my money has been wasted on it.
Jabberwocky
08-10-2008, 09:18 AM
its more a matter of who you play with. I`m sure any mmo can be good if you play it with the right people.
Choosing to buy world of warcraft is a big decision, you know youre going get addicted, you have to invest ALOT of time in it, and you have to budget for it. I seriously considered it until weighing the positive/negative effects it will have on my life.
Guild wars is a good altirnative for people who want to get an idea what the mmo fuss is about without investing their lives in it.
I finished the factions campaign last night after about a month, and like any other game i`ve played i can put it down now.
Choosing to buy world of warcraft is a big decision, you know youre going get addicted, you have to invest ALOT of time in it, and you have to budget for it. I seriously considered it until weighing the positive/negative effects it will have on my life.
Guild wars is a good altirnative for people who want to get an idea what the mmo fuss is about without investing their lives in it.
I finished the factions campaign last night after about a month, and like any other game i`ve played i can put it down now.
lilDeath
09-10-2008, 02:29 PM
The graphics in GW still amazes me!
It is astounding what they have managed to do. It is bloody beautiful, the dungeons in EotN.. the lanscapes in BMP is stunning.
Overall, with GW being a MMO and looking great.. it is pretty damn awesome.
I don't pay for games that I already bought.
Plus, I don't like the ability of someone being overpowered / invulnerable, simply because you either have more time to play (since you have to cause your $'s are wasting away if you are not logged in) or have enough money to buy the gold to buy your uber elite gear.
I also prefer to use skill, especially in PvP.
As you can see it is all about the freedom of choice.
It is astounding what they have managed to do. It is bloody beautiful, the dungeons in EotN.. the lanscapes in BMP is stunning.
Overall, with GW being a MMO and looking great.. it is pretty damn awesome.
I don't pay for games that I already bought.
Plus, I don't like the ability of someone being overpowered / invulnerable, simply because you either have more time to play (since you have to cause your $'s are wasting away if you are not logged in) or have enough money to buy the gold to buy your uber elite gear.
I also prefer to use skill, especially in PvP.
As you can see it is all about the freedom of choice.
Claymore
09-10-2008, 02:48 PM
The graphics in GW still amazes me!
It is astounding what they have managed to do. It is bloody beautiful, the dungeons in EotN.. the lanscapes in BMP is stunning.
I use screenshots as Windows wallpapers, as well as for areas in my pen & paper D&D campaign.
It is astounding what they have managed to do. It is bloody beautiful, the dungeons in EotN.. the lanscapes in BMP is stunning.
I use screenshots as Windows wallpapers, as well as for areas in my pen & paper D&D campaign.
colddeath
11-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Im sorry but i find WoW (as i play it) very fun, there is alot of PVP aswell like in the Battle grounds like AV / AB / WSG / EOTS..
But as a personal experience of GW - I havent tried it yet
But as a personal experience of GW - I havent tried it yet
ravage
12-10-2008, 03:10 PM
I've played both Guild Wars and WoW (on official servers) and I must say that I greatly prefer Guild Wars. The reason being is that I don't think that WoW is worth the monthly charges for the extra bit it has over GW. And i love GW's PvP.
zippy
28-11-2008, 06:14 PM
I play wow. Probably mainly because my friends do as well. Played a bit of GW. Felt strange not seeing anyone while im questing, but thats probably only because i only spent 15 minutes in the game. Tbh, if my friends played GW, i probablly would as well. Im not fussed about the subs for WoW. New content is provided fairly regularly in patches, not just the expansions.
Magnarmalok
01-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Right lets compare the armor pieces.Wow has billions of diff skins,styles,etc whilst guildwars has about 150 (and no dyed armor pieces dont count as new skins is the exact same thing the coding for it is just tweaked abit so that the colour is diff)
Skill:
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
Overall fun:
Gw just feels like a endless grind for my once u reach lv 20 theres absolutely nothing to do except farm farm farm farm farm and more farm...In wow on the other hand u can go do some nice raiding which is tonsa fun i dont go and raid for the wtfpwn gear i can get no i pvp for the endless fun we have(like skaapbal's kamikaze runs),yes I know gw has dungeons but they are just tiring pieces of **** where it just endless killing and sometimes maybe abit of variation whilst in wow every single boss has a tactic(lv 60+ instance/raids mostly though rest is just nuking sometimes with abit of tactics)
Skill:
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
Overall fun:
Gw just feels like a endless grind for my once u reach lv 20 theres absolutely nothing to do except farm farm farm farm farm and more farm...In wow on the other hand u can go do some nice raiding which is tonsa fun i dont go and raid for the wtfpwn gear i can get no i pvp for the endless fun we have(like skaapbal's kamikaze runs),yes I know gw has dungeons but they are just tiring pieces of **** where it just endless killing and sometimes maybe abit of variation whilst in wow every single boss has a tactic(lv 60+ instance/raids mostly though rest is just nuking sometimes with abit of tactics)
Claymore
01-12-2008, 10:56 PM
Right lets compare the armor pieces.Wow has billions of diff skins,styles,etc whilst guildwars has about 150 (and no dyed armor pieces dont count as new skins is the exact same thing the coding for it is just tweaked abit so that the colour is diff)
You're mistaken about the GuildWars armour. For example, for Warriors alone, there are 32 completely different armours, each consisting of 5 pieces. Those pieces can be mix-matched into hundreds or thousands of combinations. And that's not even taking into account colour choices, or special iems (like Chaos gloves).
Skill:
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
I dunno about WoW, but GW needs skill. It's all very well taking some skill templates off the Wiki, but making a good hero/henchman team that combines skills effectively takes skill and practice. And doing missions oftens if far more difficult that simply killing everything in your path.
Overall fun:
Gw just feels like a endless grind for my once u reach lv 20 theres absolutely nothing to do except farm farm farm farm farm and more farm
In GW, you reach 20th level about 20% of the way into whatever campaign you're doing. After that, you still have the rest of the campaign, plus the other campaigns and additions to do, and plenty of other non-grind objectives along the way (like going for Explorer titels).
You're mistaken about the GuildWars armour. For example, for Warriors alone, there are 32 completely different armours, each consisting of 5 pieces. Those pieces can be mix-matched into hundreds or thousands of combinations. And that's not even taking into account colour choices, or special iems (like Chaos gloves).
Skill:
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
I dunno about WoW, but GW needs skill. It's all very well taking some skill templates off the Wiki, but making a good hero/henchman team that combines skills effectively takes skill and practice. And doing missions oftens if far more difficult that simply killing everything in your path.
Overall fun:
Gw just feels like a endless grind for my once u reach lv 20 theres absolutely nothing to do except farm farm farm farm farm and more farm
In GW, you reach 20th level about 20% of the way into whatever campaign you're doing. After that, you still have the rest of the campaign, plus the other campaigns and additions to do, and plenty of other non-grind objectives along the way (like going for Explorer titels).
shadowfox
02-12-2008, 08:37 AM
Claymore stole all my answers 0.o Damn you!!!
Especially on the skill bit ... yeah ... you can go get skill templates off the wiki if you really have to ... but personally, I've never used them - part of the fun for me is figuring out my own builds.
And spamming? Well, yeah, certainly you can build spam builds - but you get 10 times more effect if you can combine those with non-spammy skills. It takes practice. A noob with a wiki template will get pwned by an experienced player who's worked out his own build. I've taken my elementalist up against warriors and assassins one on one numerous times - and come out on top 50/50.
And then there's title-hunting. Worth a bit of grind in my book.
Especially on the skill bit ... yeah ... you can go get skill templates off the wiki if you really have to ... but personally, I've never used them - part of the fun for me is figuring out my own builds.
And spamming? Well, yeah, certainly you can build spam builds - but you get 10 times more effect if you can combine those with non-spammy skills. It takes practice. A noob with a wiki template will get pwned by an experienced player who's worked out his own build. I've taken my elementalist up against warriors and assassins one on one numerous times - and come out on top 50/50.
And then there's title-hunting. Worth a bit of grind in my book.
Devill
02-12-2008, 09:29 AM
Skill:
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
Lol, you have not then done a UW run with a full guild team or tried Slavers?
I played WoW it was not for me because to much is made of the "reaching your cap" (it would have been nice if GW did not have a cap but you stopped gaining anything from leveling after lvl 20:D) also I am a casual player but I am a senior player amongst a couple of alliances.
At the end of the day I picked GW because it takes more skill IMO and because I do not have to grind to a high level before I can become tryuly pulled into the game.
Niether of these games need skill u just spam ur combo and viola u own every single mob/player u find i mean serously just go to gwwiki get a nice template for yourself and just spam the buttons the way they tell you too and there ur leet
Lol, you have not then done a UW run with a full guild team or tried Slavers?
I played WoW it was not for me because to much is made of the "reaching your cap" (it would have been nice if GW did not have a cap but you stopped gaining anything from leveling after lvl 20:D) also I am a casual player but I am a senior player amongst a couple of alliances.
At the end of the day I picked GW because it takes more skill IMO and because I do not have to grind to a high level before I can become tryuly pulled into the game.
semaphore
03-12-2008, 02:05 PM
the most important aspect of me and i have this debate with this guy at work is you cannot jump in GW it just pisses me off to much:P i bought it tried to jump without typing /jump and then deleted it:P
Devill
03-12-2008, 02:11 PM
the most important aspect of me and i have this debate with this guy at work is you cannot jump in GW it just pisses me off to much:P i bought it tried to jump without typing /jump and then deleted it:P
Ok what does jumping really make better in WoW?
Luckly jumping really doesnt bother me... and deleting/judging a game after, what, 5 mins is a bit foolish IMO.
Ok what does jumping really make better in WoW?
Luckly jumping really doesnt bother me... and deleting/judging a game after, what, 5 mins is a bit foolish IMO.
shadowfox
03-12-2008, 02:31 PM
deleting/judging a game after, what, 5 mins is a bit foolish IMO.
+ 1 :rolleyes:
+ 1 :rolleyes:
Pitbull
08-12-2008, 11:53 AM
Guys, hear me out.
I played Runescape many years ago :o
I liked the interactive way it was played. I joined MyADSL weighed up GW vs WoW and went for GW's. It was great fun..... for the 3 weeks I played it. a Friend of mine played WoW and said I must give him my GW discs he want's to try it out and I can make a char on his WoW account and see if I like that.
This was to put an end to the debate which one is better.
I ended up playing WoW and he didn't even play past level 5 on GW's before he phoned me and asked me to log out of WoW he want's to play :D
I had to drive around and find a Classic version of WoW for sale to start playing that same day.
WoW is by far the best, but you need to play both to realise why ;)
GW's has it's things and moments but WoW has that and so much more.
To me the fact that there is constant player base all over the world unlike GW's is what made me decide to go with WoW. And it's been 2 years already :D
I played Runescape many years ago :o
I liked the interactive way it was played. I joined MyADSL weighed up GW vs WoW and went for GW's. It was great fun..... for the 3 weeks I played it. a Friend of mine played WoW and said I must give him my GW discs he want's to try it out and I can make a char on his WoW account and see if I like that.
This was to put an end to the debate which one is better.
I ended up playing WoW and he didn't even play past level 5 on GW's before he phoned me and asked me to log out of WoW he want's to play :D
I had to drive around and find a Classic version of WoW for sale to start playing that same day.
WoW is by far the best, but you need to play both to realise why ;)
GW's has it's things and moments but WoW has that and so much more.
To me the fact that there is constant player base all over the world unlike GW's is what made me decide to go with WoW. And it's been 2 years already :D
Devill
08-12-2008, 11:58 AM
I have played WoW, I played it for about 44-55 hours (5 days x +- 8-11 hours :D).
It was not horrible it was just to much grinding from the word go. "go get x of y and bring it back here" But it had its + points, the instances in GW tend to grind me a little as appose to the nice open / free world of WoW.
I also prefered how GW rewards you for skill not time :)
Each to his own I just know that GW 2 Will see me as soon as it is out :D
It was not horrible it was just to much grinding from the word go. "go get x of y and bring it back here" But it had its + points, the instances in GW tend to grind me a little as appose to the nice open / free world of WoW.
I also prefered how GW rewards you for skill not time :)
Each to his own I just know that GW 2 Will see me as soon as it is out :D
Pitbull
08-12-2008, 12:00 PM
I have played WoW, I played it for about 44-55 hours (5 days x +- 8-11 hours :D).
It was not horrible it was just to much grinding from the word go. "go get x of y and bring it back here" But it had its + points, the instances in GW tend to grind me a little as appose to the nice open / free world of WoW.
I also prefered how GW rewards you for skill not time :)
Each to his own I just know that GW 2 Will see me as soon as it is out :D
That is what makes both these games so successfull.
They cater for 2 different type of players. One needs to play both to realise which one suites u best ;) That is the point I'm trying to make. I love the social aspect of WoW, which is greatly lacking in GW's :p
It was not horrible it was just to much grinding from the word go. "go get x of y and bring it back here" But it had its + points, the instances in GW tend to grind me a little as appose to the nice open / free world of WoW.
I also prefered how GW rewards you for skill not time :)
Each to his own I just know that GW 2 Will see me as soon as it is out :D
That is what makes both these games so successfull.
They cater for 2 different type of players. One needs to play both to realise which one suites u best ;) That is the point I'm trying to make. I love the social aspect of WoW, which is greatly lacking in GW's :p
Magnarmalok
08-12-2008, 12:15 PM
i like farming achievements in wow :D
Devill
08-12-2008, 12:17 PM
i like farming achievements in wow :D
Lol, I like getting my titles (not the grinding ones) in GW.
@ PB I agree 100% with you :)
But I go out for a beer if I need to be very social :p
Lol, I like getting my titles (not the grinding ones) in GW.
@ PB I agree 100% with you :)
But I go out for a beer if I need to be very social :p
Pitbull
08-12-2008, 12:19 PM
Lol, I like getting my titles (not the grinding ones) in GW.
@ PB I agree 100% with you :)
But I go out for a beer if I need to be very social :p
Kinda hard with a wife and 2 small kids and twins on the way :D
@ PB I agree 100% with you :)
But I go out for a beer if I need to be very social :p
Kinda hard with a wife and 2 small kids and twins on the way :D
Devill
08-12-2008, 12:41 PM
Kinda hard with a wife and 2 small kids and twins on the way :D
Lol, and thats why Wow is great for you :)
Ps get your kids as soon as they are old enough to game with you fo an hour or two every day :p:D
Lol, and thats why Wow is great for you :)
Ps get your kids as soon as they are old enough to game with you fo an hour or two every day :p:D
Voicysaurous
08-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Johnny , I felt exactly the same ... only until I started playing WoW.
Wait until you experience your first ganking encounter with the horde. Unlike GW where you only interact with other people in outposts - WoW has people ANYWHERE. so while you're in the forest being klapped by a beast - a random person will come by and assist - then run off again (Alliance okes are nice that way :p)
This also means that the enemy can attack you at any point in the game - anywhere.
It's really awesome coming across one - then killing him/her - who then call their big buddies to moer you...and you call yours in return. More often than not a single feud or simple fight between two low level characters turns into one huge mob fest.
Here are some points that sold the game to me:
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
Travelling:
Your movement is also much better. You can buy a mount (tiger/horse/whatnot) at lvl40 and an epic mount (orsm tiger/kief horse/ elephant etc.) at lvl 60. Much later on u can get an epic flying mount @ lvl 70. And yes - you can pretty much fly anywhere.
You can also travel by boat to lots of places or fly on a griffin. It's THE most amazing scenery when you fly between places - and since there are no cutscenes you see EVERYTHING all the time. You even see other players riding griffins on the way back past you :)
Skills:
Unlike GW where each class is human, with WoW you can select just about any race and assign any class to him/her. certain races offer better points to specific classes etc.
Professions:
Aside from being a hunter/warrior/whatnot, you can select 2 main professions. These are completely separate from your fighting skills, for instance:
Mining/skinning/herbalism as gathering skills or tailoring/enchanting/blacksmithing/engineering/leatherworking as a crafting skill. So you can pretty much gather ur own material and make your own armor/weapons/whatnot - or sell it on...
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
Teamwork:
People pay alot for this game and try not to spoil it for each other - i've found (well on the EU servers anyway) ... when you're killing bunnies in a quest and someone else rocks up - they generally leave if u ask nicely instead of competing the whole time. It's also nice to give help and receive it when something is attacking a fellow player - whether you know them or not. It's always nice to have a random priest run past and cast a protective spell on you and then run off.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
Payment:
Sure its expensive - but only if you don't play it enough to warrant the subscription fee. If you're not heavy into gaming , dont bother. you'll just end up hating it for taking your money. If you are prepared to spend sufficient time on it, you will not get better value entertainment for that amount of time and money in a month. (unless you know some really cheap scurvey-free hookers) It automatically deducts from your C/C - and if you don't have one or trust the NET with it - you can always buy gaming cards from any pc gaming shop. Scratch the card and enter the key. Hey presto - you're sorted. You can buy more than 1 card instead of going back to the shop every month and just use it when you need to.
Modding:
You can add lots of little side programs which makes the game easier. They're not cheats since theyre Blizzard approved, but they do make things alot easier. i.e.: auctioneer that helps you with pricing (and remembers latest prices etc.), or chartographer which is a better mapping system, or even mods changing your interface so your button layouts are more user friendly. Literally every person's interface looks different.
You can get a free 10 day trial account just to check out the game. Just get the game files from someone and you're set to go. But be warned - you'll be hooked!
FalconZA ... to be fair - if you read above , they're actually vastly different games.
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
*bump*
Just a quick recap from my posts many moons ago.
Wait until you experience your first ganking encounter with the horde. Unlike GW where you only interact with other people in outposts - WoW has people ANYWHERE. so while you're in the forest being klapped by a beast - a random person will come by and assist - then run off again (Alliance okes are nice that way :p)
This also means that the enemy can attack you at any point in the game - anywhere.
It's really awesome coming across one - then killing him/her - who then call their big buddies to moer you...and you call yours in return. More often than not a single feud or simple fight between two low level characters turns into one huge mob fest.
Here are some points that sold the game to me:
Loading of the game:
There are only really load screens if you do instances (special missions unlike normal quests) and when travelling between continents.
Otherwise you can run through an entire continent without EVER having to wait for that annoying loading/updating/downloading screen GW seems to have every 100m.
Travelling:
Your movement is also much better. You can buy a mount (tiger/horse/whatnot) at lvl40 and an epic mount (orsm tiger/kief horse/ elephant etc.) at lvl 60. Much later on u can get an epic flying mount @ lvl 70. And yes - you can pretty much fly anywhere.
You can also travel by boat to lots of places or fly on a griffin. It's THE most amazing scenery when you fly between places - and since there are no cutscenes you see EVERYTHING all the time. You even see other players riding griffins on the way back past you :)
Skills:
Unlike GW where each class is human, with WoW you can select just about any race and assign any class to him/her. certain races offer better points to specific classes etc.
Professions:
Aside from being a hunter/warrior/whatnot, you can select 2 main professions. These are completely separate from your fighting skills, for instance:
Mining/skinning/herbalism as gathering skills or tailoring/enchanting/blacksmithing/engineering/leatherworking as a crafting skill. So you can pretty much gather ur own material and make your own armor/weapons/whatnot - or sell it on...
The Auction House:
I spend about 1/4th of my game time here... buying and selling goods at various rates instead of dealing with random outpost lurkers like in GW who trade privately. You can compare prices and either bid on an item or select buyout at a higher rate to secure the item. It works rather well if you need something specific which the vendors don't sell. You can also pick up crazy bargains - which saves you ALOT of time finding it in the field.
Teamwork:
People pay alot for this game and try not to spoil it for each other - i've found (well on the EU servers anyway) ... when you're killing bunnies in a quest and someone else rocks up - they generally leave if u ask nicely instead of competing the whole time. It's also nice to give help and receive it when something is attacking a fellow player - whether you know them or not. It's always nice to have a random priest run past and cast a protective spell on you and then run off.
MMORPG:
In GW you only REALLY deal with other people in outposts or arena. Other than that the game is basically mutliplayer co-op where you and 3 buddies take on the computer's NPC monsters etc. In WoW the NPC's are still there, but there could be a different player friend or foe hiding around each corner.
Payment:
Sure its expensive - but only if you don't play it enough to warrant the subscription fee. If you're not heavy into gaming , dont bother. you'll just end up hating it for taking your money. If you are prepared to spend sufficient time on it, you will not get better value entertainment for that amount of time and money in a month. (unless you know some really cheap scurvey-free hookers) It automatically deducts from your C/C - and if you don't have one or trust the NET with it - you can always buy gaming cards from any pc gaming shop. Scratch the card and enter the key. Hey presto - you're sorted. You can buy more than 1 card instead of going back to the shop every month and just use it when you need to.
Modding:
You can add lots of little side programs which makes the game easier. They're not cheats since theyre Blizzard approved, but they do make things alot easier. i.e.: auctioneer that helps you with pricing (and remembers latest prices etc.), or chartographer which is a better mapping system, or even mods changing your interface so your button layouts are more user friendly. Literally every person's interface looks different.
You can get a free 10 day trial account just to check out the game. Just get the game files from someone and you're set to go. But be warned - you'll be hooked!
FalconZA ... to be fair - if you read above , they're actually vastly different games.
I wont EVER turn anyone down for wanting to play GW. Its an AWESOME package for a once off payment and I enjoyed it immensely.
Surprisingly with all the stuff mentioned about why WoW > GW - the gfx detail of landscapes and characters on GW still outshine WoW by faaaar. Much smoother/detailed/less animated.
*bump*
Just a quick recap from my posts many moons ago.
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Was thinking of getting GW today but not sure if it is worth the R400, (that is for the complete package)....I am not interested in WOW as I seriously am not paying a monthly fee for something I wont play day in and day out....So what do you guys think? Is it worth the green?
Claymore
29-12-2008, 04:04 PM
Was thinking of getting GW today but not sure if it is worth the R400, (that is for the complete package)....I am not interested in WOW as I seriously am not paying a monthly fee for something I wont play day in and day out....So what do you guys think? Is it worth the green?
Yes, it's a damn good deal for the three settings plus the add-on.
Yes, it's a damn good deal for the three settings plus the add-on.
Pitbull
29-12-2008, 04:06 PM
Was thinking of getting GW today but not sure if it is worth the R400, (that is for the complete package)....I am not interested in WOW as I seriously am not paying a monthly fee for something I wont play day in and day out....So what do you guys think? Is it worth the green?
I have to admit,
Before my WoW addiction, I enjoyed GW's endlessly. But MMO's are not for everyone though. If you like Online gaming you will get it in GW's. If you want more than wat GW's offer then try WoW on a later stage. But it's worth the R 400 either way :)
I have to admit,
Before my WoW addiction, I enjoyed GW's endlessly. But MMO's are not for everyone though. If you like Online gaming you will get it in GW's. If you want more than wat GW's offer then try WoW on a later stage. But it's worth the R 400 either way :)
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 04:20 PM
I have to admit,
Before my WoW addiction, I enjoyed GW's endlessly. But MMO's are not for everyone though. If you like Online gaming you will get it in GW's. If you want more than wat GW's offer then try WoW on a later stage. But it's worth the R 400 either way :)
Cool thanks...How much bandwidth does the game chew and how big are the patches you need to dl before you can play?
Before my WoW addiction, I enjoyed GW's endlessly. But MMO's are not for everyone though. If you like Online gaming you will get it in GW's. If you want more than wat GW's offer then try WoW on a later stage. But it's worth the R 400 either way :)
Cool thanks...How much bandwidth does the game chew and how big are the patches you need to dl before you can play?
Lydon
29-12-2008, 04:34 PM
R400 is definitely worth it. Excellent deal.
I've found the game uses around 5-8Mb per hour when doing 8 vs 8 PvP, which is quite excellent in my opinion. With regards to the updates - the complete collection should have most of them included. You're looking at a few megabytes maybe. Guild Wars updates are tiny...a few hundred kilobytes. It's awesome :)
I've found the game uses around 5-8Mb per hour when doing 8 vs 8 PvP, which is quite excellent in my opinion. With regards to the updates - the complete collection should have most of them included. You're looking at a few megabytes maybe. Guild Wars updates are tiny...a few hundred kilobytes. It's awesome :)
Pitbull
29-12-2008, 04:36 PM
R400 is definitely worth it. Excellent deal.
I've found the game uses areound 5-8Mb per minute when doing 8 vs 8 PvP, which is quite excellent in my opinion. With regards to the updates - the complete collection should have most of them included. You're looking at a few megabytes maybe. Guild Wars updates are tiny...a few hundred kilobytes. It's awesome :)
5 - 8 MB's a minute :eek:
Sure that is not a mistype ?
I've found the game uses areound 5-8Mb per minute when doing 8 vs 8 PvP, which is quite excellent in my opinion. With regards to the updates - the complete collection should have most of them included. You're looking at a few megabytes maybe. Guild Wars updates are tiny...a few hundred kilobytes. It's awesome :)
5 - 8 MB's a minute :eek:
Sure that is not a mistype ?
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 04:38 PM
5 - 8 MB's a minute :eek:
Sure that is not a mistype ?
Yeah holy moses I will have to get an uncapped account :eek:
Sure that is not a mistype ?
Yeah holy moses I will have to get an uncapped account :eek:
Pitbull
29-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah holy moses I will have to get an uncapped account :eek:
He prob meant per hour :o
He prob meant per hour :o
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 04:44 PM
He prob meant per hour :o
lol probably, in that case sounds really worth getting this game.
lol probably, in that case sounds really worth getting this game.
Lydon
29-12-2008, 05:04 PM
Sorry for the false alarm *blushes*
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 05:58 PM
In true impulsive Grimspoon fashion I went and got the game....Busy installing and updating. Looking forward to this one!
Lydon
29-12-2008, 06:16 PM
Welcome! :D
Jabberwocky
29-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Was thinking of getting GW today but not sure if it is worth the R400, (that is for the complete package)....I am not interested in WOW as I seriously am not paying a monthly fee for something I wont play day in and day out....So what do you guys think? Is it worth the green?
If you are not sure if you will like it buy a single campaign for R130. Should keep you busy for the rest of the holiday at least. oh.. too late :p
ps. who's playing tonight?
If you are not sure if you will like it buy a single campaign for R130. Should keep you busy for the rest of the holiday at least. oh.. too late :p
ps. who's playing tonight?
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 07:26 PM
If you are not sure if you will like it buy a single campaign for R130. Should keep you busy for the rest of the holiday at least. oh.. too late :p
ps. who's playing tonight?
Too late ;) This is definitely my kinda game, just setup my char and about to start my first quests.
ps. who's playing tonight?
Too late ;) This is definitely my kinda game, just setup my char and about to start my first quests.
Pr⊕phet
29-12-2008, 08:26 PM
well i've found GW to be excellent alt to pen and paper dungeons and dragons role play, very nice to co-op it with my gf.
wow, is fun too i like it for mild action
aoc, more of blood and gore and tribe stuff
bloodymare requiem, well its just cool because of its freaking oddness
wow, is fun too i like it for mild action
aoc, more of blood and gore and tribe stuff
bloodymare requiem, well its just cool because of its freaking oddness
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 09:04 PM
Hmm some help might be in order - I have got my char level 3 and now went off to winter wonderland, kamdor I think its called, cant remember and I have accepted a few tasks but when ever I get to the task I cant fight any of the crits, my dude is armed but when I click on the crit to attack my guy just stands there and dies...Even tried different tasks but same thing. Hmm will pot around and work it out.
Lydon
29-12-2008, 09:21 PM
Hmm some help might be in order - I have got my char level 3 and now went off to winter wonderland, kamdor I think its called, cant remember and I have accepted a few tasks but when ever I get to the task I cant fight any of the crits, my dude is armed but when I click on the crit to attack my guy just stands there and dies...Even tried different tasks but same thing. Hmm will pot around and work it out.
I take it you've created a Nightfall character and meant Kamadan? It's Winter Wonderland at present because of Christmas :D
Which quest are you on at the moment? In order to attack the closest mob, press "C" then the space bar. Then use 1-8 to cast spells and use skills. Make sure that before you quest you add henchmen or heroes to your party. Press the "P" button to display the party window. Next, if you have any heroes you will be able to add them via a drop-down menu in the party window. Otherwise, in a town such as Kamadan, you will see a line of NPCs next to most teleports. These are henchmen. Simple click on one of them and their name will appear in the party window. Then click the "+" next to their name to add them to your party.
I take it you've created a Nightfall character and meant Kamadan? It's Winter Wonderland at present because of Christmas :D
Which quest are you on at the moment? In order to attack the closest mob, press "C" then the space bar. Then use 1-8 to cast spells and use skills. Make sure that before you quest you add henchmen or heroes to your party. Press the "P" button to display the party window. Next, if you have any heroes you will be able to add them via a drop-down menu in the party window. Otherwise, in a town such as Kamadan, you will see a line of NPCs next to most teleports. These are henchmen. Simple click on one of them and their name will appear in the party window. Then click the "+" next to their name to add them to your party.
Grimspoon
29-12-2008, 09:37 PM
I take it you've created a Nightfall character and meant Kamadan? It's Winter Wonderland at present because of Christmas :D
Which quest are you on at the moment? In order to attack the closest mob, press "C" then the space bar. Then use 1-8 to cast spells and use skills. Make sure that before you quest you add henchmen or heroes to your party. Press the "P" button to display the party window. Next, if you have any heroes you will be able to add them via a drop-down menu in the party window. Otherwise, in a town such as Kamadan, you will see a line of NPCs next to most teleports. These are henchmen. Simple click on one of them and their name will appear in the party window. Then click the "+" next to their name to add them to your party.
Yeah Nightfall char, and yeah I meant Kamadan lol...Winter wonderland is pretty cool. Should I have started with say prophecies rather?
I have gone back to the plains of Jarin and here I can attack and kill with no problem, I just click on the dude to attack and bingo...But in Kamadan, I have tried a few quests and nothing, my dude just stands there and takes a beating...Dunno what I am doing wrong. I will try what you mentioned, thanks.
Which quest are you on at the moment? In order to attack the closest mob, press "C" then the space bar. Then use 1-8 to cast spells and use skills. Make sure that before you quest you add henchmen or heroes to your party. Press the "P" button to display the party window. Next, if you have any heroes you will be able to add them via a drop-down menu in the party window. Otherwise, in a town such as Kamadan, you will see a line of NPCs next to most teleports. These are henchmen. Simple click on one of them and their name will appear in the party window. Then click the "+" next to their name to add them to your party.
Yeah Nightfall char, and yeah I meant Kamadan lol...Winter wonderland is pretty cool. Should I have started with say prophecies rather?
I have gone back to the plains of Jarin and here I can attack and kill with no problem, I just click on the dude to attack and bingo...But in Kamadan, I have tried a few quests and nothing, my dude just stands there and takes a beating...Dunno what I am doing wrong. I will try what you mentioned, thanks.
dakeyras
29-12-2008, 10:28 PM
I played and enjoy both games. Completely different, both with their positives and negatives.
shadowfox
30-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Grimspoon ... I'm wondering if you're taking part in the Wintersday quests where you're having this problem?
The thing is ... with these quests - you can't physically attack the creatures ... you have to use the snowball skills in your skillbar. Some of those missions can be pretty tricky too ... I had to do one of them over a couple of times before I got the hang of it.
The thing is ... with these quests - you can't physically attack the creatures ... you have to use the snowball skills in your skillbar. Some of those missions can be pretty tricky too ... I had to do one of them over a couple of times before I got the hang of it.
Grimspoon
30-12-2008, 09:25 AM
Grimspoon ... I'm wondering if you're taking part in the Wintersday quests where you're having this problem?
The thing is ... with these quests - you can't physically attack the creatures ... you have to use the snowball skills in your skillbar. Some of those missions can be pretty tricky too ... I had to do one of them over a couple of times before I got the hang of it.
Shadowfox - that is exactly whats happening, thanks :)
The thing is ... with these quests - you can't physically attack the creatures ... you have to use the snowball skills in your skillbar. Some of those missions can be pretty tricky too ... I had to do one of them over a couple of times before I got the hang of it.
Shadowfox - that is exactly whats happening, thanks :)
Lydon
30-12-2008, 01:09 PM
Hehehe. Gota love the holiday events.
shadowfox
30-12-2008, 02:53 PM
Yep :) I been spending a lot of time on them ... I'm hoping to get lucky and score myself a Jingle Bear mini ... although - going by what I heard I have a better chance of winning the lotto 3 weeks running.
But hey ... I score lots of event goodies on the way ... and the effort required is minimal ... so why not :p
But hey ... I score lots of event goodies on the way ... and the effort required is minimal ... so why not :p
Lydon
30-12-2008, 10:20 PM
The odds of getting a Jingle Bear mini are 3 million to 1 according to wiki :) Good luck xD
shadowfox
31-12-2008, 11:04 AM
=_='
I find myself seriously demotivated all of a sudden ....
I find myself seriously demotivated all of a sudden ....
Lydon
31-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Mehehe. Well SOMEBODY has to get one :P