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arni1954
09-04-2008, 10:23 AM
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A744468

Even Uganda............:D

kilos
09-04-2008, 10:46 AM
Nsambu was sharing a stage with SA’s science and technology minister, Mosibudi Mangena, at the Satcom Africa conference in Johannesburg yesterday when he suggested that SA should rethink its telecoms regulations. Then he apologised for making his criticisms in public instead of discussing them in private.

“I wish you had written to me privately,” Mangena replied.
I just love the last comment, in otherwords, dear visiting speaker, please remove that from your speech, as you cannot criticise SA in SA. Hee Hee. The rest of Africa is not looking up to South Africa, but rather to Morocco (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/3086.html)

bwana
09-04-2008, 10:49 AM
“I wish you had written to me privately,” Mangena replied.I'm sure you do.

Balstrome
09-04-2008, 10:50 AM
Can we get this guy for DoC head, pretty please

timgaul
09-04-2008, 10:53 AM
“I wish you had written to me privately,” Mangena replied.

Bugger you! Its a public matter, I see no reason why it should not be openly criticised in public. :mad:

LordFoom
09-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Wonder how difficult it is to emmigrate to Uganda....

Wyzak
09-04-2008, 12:03 PM
Nsambu for president!

Juice
09-04-2008, 01:12 PM
“It took them a long time to convince us that in SA the regulations are that bad,” Nsambu said. “Your government should provide such companies with a certificate to say the companies are good but they don’t meet our requirements because we have our own regulations,” he told Mangena.

Ooooh, ouch. Here, have some egg on your face, we know you deserve it.


Infraco was established because no other company could provide sufficient bandwidth fast enough to support the Southern African Large Telescope and to let SA bid to host the $1,5bn Square Kilometre Array radio telescope. “If there were private companies that came and said we can provide this bandwidth we wouldn’t have Infraco,” Mangena said.

BwahahahHWAHAHWHAHHAWHAHWHAHHAHAHWHAHWAHHWAHHAAAA *breathe* AAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAA

And on a more angry note: you lying bastard!!

1) The utter embarrassment that is the Department of Communications is ACTIVELY discouraging private operators from constructing undersea cables that land here with stupid and insane 'guidelines' and spurious requirements in the name of 'national security'.

2) One privately funded cable is going to beat the Infraco and government sanctioned cables to our shores. They've already started their CONSTRUCTION, while your friends in government have not even begun PLANNING!

3) See sig. Don't make me add your department to the list.

Juice

fishfly
09-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Mosibudi Mangena For President!!!!

Alchemist
09-04-2008, 01:38 PM
It's a sad day, when another African country has to tell the South African government how to it's job

Tns
09-04-2008, 01:50 PM
It's a sad day, when another African country has to tell the South African government how to it's job

sad indeed


Nsambu said governments should back off from playing an active role as the telecoms sector “must be run by highly skilled technicians, not by politicians”.
now if only they would!

HosstheBoss
09-04-2008, 01:53 PM
It's a sad day, when another African country has to tell the South African government how to it's job

Even sadder when the South African's refuse to listen!

Nod
09-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Nsambu will probably be labeled a coconut. It's a shame, he made such good points, and government should really listen to him. Governments should govern, not run industry.

lordrage
09-04-2008, 04:29 PM
It's a sad day, when another African country has to tell the South African government how to it's job

That may be. However what it really does is highlight our regression into the african status quo.

Browser
10-04-2008, 12:40 AM
Nsambu for president!

Here here.

Debbie
10-04-2008, 01:00 AM
Let's write a letter to Nsambu and the government of Uganda and thank them for their outspokenness in showing our government the way, and encouage some cross-border debate in this matter.... make it an open letter of sorts. We'll CC the co-ordinator of the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee (she will pass it on) ; a few of the top brass in Telkom / Sentech / etc; the International Telecommunications Union; several local financial and respected media publications; and heck, why not OfCom and the American Department of Foreign Trade (or whatever it's called... the American interests dudes who check on foreign countries' compliance with WTO obligations) for the hell of it. We can mention that unfortunately our own South African department of Communications could not be CC'd in on the open letter, as their email address does not appear to be in working order.

But first, anyone know much about the Ugandan telecoms situation?

The_Grog
10-04-2008, 01:32 AM
Hell, with a proper business plan, anyone can lay a cable.

The only problem is that government says that the private sector is not coming to the party and therefore they are laying cables.

They neglect to mention that the private sector was not allowed legally to do anything about it and that "companies" abused their rights, like Telkom whose controlling shareholder is government itself.

To make a long story short, they all think the public are idiots and will never catch on or understand them.

dominic
10-04-2008, 08:48 AM
:D classic

Alan
10-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Wonder how difficult it is to emmigrate to Uganda....

:eek:

Shouldn't be to difficult....

-toady-
10-04-2008, 05:26 PM
Let's write a letter to Nsambu and the government of Uganda and thank them for their outspokenness in showing our government the way, and encouage some cross-border debate in this matter.... make it an open letter of sorts. We'll CC the co-ordinator of the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee (she will pass it on) ; a few of the top brass in Telkom / Sentech / etc; the International Telecommunications Union; several local financial and respected media publications; and heck, why not OfCom and the American Department of Foreign Trade (or whatever it's called... the American interests dudes who check on foreign countries' compliance with WTO obligations) for the hell of it. We can mention that unfortunately our own South African department of Communications could not be CC'd in on the open letter, as their email address does not appear to be in working order.

But first, anyone know much about the Ugandan telecoms situation?

No to the last question... any takers? I think its a damned fine suggestion...

Nod
10-04-2008, 05:30 PM
But first, anyone know much about the Ugandan telecoms situation?

Something like this (http://www.totel.com.au/uganda-telecommunications-research.asp)? Have to pay for the reports though.

Debbie
10-04-2008, 08:24 PM
No to the last question... any takers? I think its a damned fine suggestion...

Thanks toady, I also thought this was one of my more intelligent moments.


Something like this (http://www.totel.com.au/uganda-telecommunications-research.asp)? Have to pay for the reports though.

Thanks Nod, something like that would be ideal, I'm sure much of the relevant information - ie a basic overview of the public policies proposed vs the public policies implemented, & results thereof to the consumer/competitive market- can be picked up in multiple scattered places online for free, since I don't seem to be able to find that damned US$50 of mine.... ( :D )

But maybe someone here already knows something? Surely we have people who have had some form of informed exposure to the Ugandan telecoms sector on this forum?

antowan
10-04-2008, 09:06 PM
“I wish you had written to me privately,” Mangena replied. -SA’s science and technology minister, Mosibudi Mangena-

He can go and **** himself!

ic
10-04-2008, 11:52 PM
Mangena denied that progress in SA was shackled by the government’s regulating undersea cables or by creating Infraco as a state-owned supplier of broadband infrastructure. Some areas could be liberalised further, but the regulatory environment laid the ground rules rather than inhibited progress, he said. (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Telecoms/3434.html)Another minister with head buried so far up the rear end of guavamint that light and sound are actively prevented from sparking enlightenment.
“I wish you had written to me privately,” Mangena replied. (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Telecoms/3434.html)I wouldn't be surprised to discover that Uganda's Technology Minister did email Mangena - and Mangena ignored the sound advice offered by Alintuma Nsambu.

Shake&Bake
11-04-2008, 12:36 AM
/Gives Nsambu a standing ovation!

And f@ck writing letters! :mad:
Praise be to Him that attacked our lying sacks of k@k in government and gave it to them!

Someone start a church in this man's name and I'll sign up! 10% and all!!!