View Full Version : Do you think Professional fee's are justified?
IzZzy
20-04-2008, 01:33 PM
By professional I am referring to lawyers, doctors, architects, accountants and engineers.
While I can hazard a guess as to the probable outcome of the result, my personal views are that they "kind of" are.
From my perspective as a future lawyer and having to study my ass off for four years learning the rules/laws/principles of just about every facet of life.. I want to be recognised for it by having a nice pay cheque each month. Though I do recognise that fee's do tend to get rather excessive.
So what's your views? I admit this is a slight rant as presently I am having to study the boring, inane provisions of the Road Accident Fund Act...
alf101
20-04-2008, 01:40 PM
Denny Crane
Hobagoas
20-04-2008, 01:44 PM
Classic opportunity costs. You made the decision to not enter the working world straight after school deciding to rather further your education and forego the money you could be earning today in the hope that with your qualification you will be able to earn more in the future than if you had not studied. So in that sense, sure, earning a nice paycheque is justified. But man, some fees of lawyers especially are just wack.
Enjoy the RAFA whilst I finish my paper on the Currency Crisis in Mexico 1994/1995 :p
Picard
20-04-2008, 01:45 PM
Easy.
Professionals are the people that can react the quickest to changes in the economic prosperity of a society.
If they need more money to maintain a certain lifestyle because whatever reason ... they just raise their fees.
IzZzy
20-04-2008, 01:47 PM
But man, some fees of lawyers especially are just wack.
Enjoy the RAFA whilst I finish my paper on the Currency Crisis in Mexico 1994/1995 :p
Yup, especially the Advocate of Robert McBride at R3000 p/h.
Enjoy the paper! I somewhat feel consoled by the RAF now :P
Picard
20-04-2008, 01:48 PM
This is the reason why some plumbers and craftsman sometimes earn more money than many people with academic tertiary qualifications.
My cousin is an electrician. As stupid as a stump. But he makes an out-house full of money.
alf101
20-04-2008, 01:50 PM
Yup, especially the Advocate of Robert McBride at R3000 p/h.
Enjoy the paper! I somewhat feel consoled by the RAF now :P
That's not expensive.
There's law clerks etc, salararies that goes into that.
Advocate's don't do all their own resarch.
Law firms cost a lot of money to run.
Picard
20-04-2008, 01:54 PM
That's not expensive.
There's law clerks etc, salararies that goes into that.
Advocate's don't do all their own resarch.
Law firms cost a lot of money to run.
JC. If they work a bit less than 3 hours they get what I make in a month. And don't tell me they are that much intellectually superior than I.
bodhi
21-04-2008, 01:05 PM
By professional I am referring to lawyers, doctors, architects, accountants and engineers.
Yes , the fees professionals charge are warranted.
Why - because of the professional status of the above-mentioned careers.
dominic
21-04-2008, 01:16 PM
look at what you are paying for...
competence or a large building with nice coffee (often they go together but not always)
without being arrogant i know there are lawyers charging three times as much as i do simply because i prefer to be self-employed whereas they have a bucketload of overheads to cope with
HavocXphere
21-04-2008, 01:25 PM
The price is to a certain extent set via supply/demand. There are simply not enough competent people around...consequently their fees are sky high.
They must however also tread more carefully due to fines left right and center. e.g. Under the new-ish Anti-Money laundering regulations, accountants can get a R1 Billion fine if they are caught ML. (Yes, thats billion with a B)
Jonny Two Shoes
21-04-2008, 01:26 PM
What is so professional about being a doctor or lawyer? You can be a professional at anything.
HavocXphere
21-04-2008, 01:31 PM
What is so professional about being a doctor or lawyer? You can be a professional at anything.
That's the modern interpretation of the word.
Definition
A professional is a worker required to possess a large body of knowledge derived from extensive academic study (usually tertiary), with the training almost always formalized.
Professionals are at least to a degree self-regulating, in that they control the training and evaluation processes that admit new persons to the field, and in judging whether the work done by their members is up to standard. This differs from other kinds of work where regulation (if considered necessary) is imposed by the state, or where official quality standards are often lacking.
ghoti
21-04-2008, 01:31 PM
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Natas
21-04-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm a lawyer, although I am not in practice anymore, it must be understood that people like lawyers sell only one thing.. their time... this is all we can sell. How this getstranslated into the real world is professional fees.. the fees get higher the more you are in demand... ie you have a finite amoutn of time in any given day, so the upper limit of your fees is how much you can charge fir your time and still keep yourself perpetually busy.