ubercal
27-04-2008, 01:34 PM
If Man Utd can have a thread dedicated to them , then i sure AC Milan deserve one as well.They are rightly the current World and European champions
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Alan
27-04-2008, 03:42 PM
Soon to be former champions who won't it seems be even in the CL to try regain their title next season :p
timgaul
27-04-2008, 04:41 PM
Not a lot of support in this thread.
ubercal
27-04-2008, 07:43 PM
Not a lot of support in this thread.
Not surprised , as south africans are generally clueless about football.Ask the average South african about football and u will either get chiefs and pirates , and Man Utd and Liverpool.
Not surprised , as south africans are generally clueless about football.Ask the average South african about football and u will either get chiefs and pirates , and Man Utd and Liverpool.
timgaul
27-04-2008, 08:02 PM
Not surprised , as south africans are generally clueless about football.Ask the average South african about football and u will either get chiefs and pirates , and Man Utd and Liverpool.
Er... okay. Thats a bit small minded though. At my office we have Man U, Everton, Milan and Inter fans. And thats just 6 guys, so I would have to disagree with you.
Er... okay. Thats a bit small minded though. At my office we have Man U, Everton, Milan and Inter fans. And thats just 6 guys, so I would have to disagree with you.
nivek
27-04-2008, 08:16 PM
i read AC are riddled with debt and might have to offload some stars, ie ***a?
its a shame tho, AC are the classiest team in Italy..
its a shame tho, AC are the classiest team in Italy..
Alan
27-04-2008, 08:16 PM
So Flamini and Ronaldinho to Milan and possibly Guttuso to Manure according to the tabloids
nivek
27-04-2008, 08:17 PM
Doubt Manure would buy Gattuso, they have Anderson covering that position pretty well
I hope Flamini stays :(
I hope Flamini stays :(
Alan
27-04-2008, 08:21 PM
Doubt Manure would buy Gattuso, they have Anderson covering that position pretty well
I hope Flamini stays :(
Yeah found that hard to believe. Also got Hardgrieves for that position. Guttuso has always said he'd move back to Rangers one day. Can't believe Rangers actually sold him :o
If Flamini goes with Hleb Arsenal could well be in danger of losing their big club status :eek:
I hope Flamini stays :(
Yeah found that hard to believe. Also got Hardgrieves for that position. Guttuso has always said he'd move back to Rangers one day. Can't believe Rangers actually sold him :o
If Flamini goes with Hleb Arsenal could well be in danger of losing their big club status :eek:
hj2k_x
27-04-2008, 08:21 PM
And the thread turns into a EPL one anyway. Good work guys :D
Alan
27-04-2008, 08:22 PM
And the thread turns into a EPL one anyway. Good work guys :D
:cool:
:cool:
ubercal
27-04-2008, 08:23 PM
And the thread turns into a EPL one anyway. Good work guys :D
Yeah i give up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah i give up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nivek
27-04-2008, 08:27 PM
it'll be a big shame to loose hleb, one of my fav players, but hes been pretty inconsistent.. unlike flamini...
most of the hleb rumours going around are probably b/s tho.. Wenger has said its his priority to hold this current team together..
Arsenal has two midfielders out on loan at the moment as well, Carlos Vela, who plays on the left for Osasuna, same position as Hleb and Fran Merida who is a central midfielder.. + Wenger said he will be signing 2 experienced players
So its not all gloom :)
most of the hleb rumours going around are probably b/s tho.. Wenger has said its his priority to hold this current team together..
Arsenal has two midfielders out on loan at the moment as well, Carlos Vela, who plays on the left for Osasuna, same position as Hleb and Fran Merida who is a central midfielder.. + Wenger said he will be signing 2 experienced players
So its not all gloom :)
nivek
27-04-2008, 08:28 PM
Yeah i give up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol :D
lol :D
timgaul
28-04-2008, 07:12 PM
i read AC are riddled with debt and might have to offload some stars, ie ***a?
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lol :D
timgaul
28-04-2008, 07:13 PM
Still a bit of an echo in here.
killadoob
28-04-2008, 07:14 PM
nivek if milan dont make the champs league they will have to sell ***a
that a kuk load of money to lose
that a kuk load of money to lose
stefan9
28-04-2008, 10:24 PM
Milan are going down on Sunday. Inter will beat them in the derby and be crowned scudetto winners for 2008 and most likely seal their fate for uefa cup football. That will be a perfect day for me.
nivek
04-05-2008, 04:52 PM
How can DSTV not broadcast AC Milan vs Inter?????
snapshot
04-05-2008, 05:13 PM
Doubt Manure would buy Gattuso, they have Anderson covering that position pretty well
I hope Flamini stays :(
Why do all Man United fans rate Anderson so highly. He is an average player. Doesnt do anything spectacular, he is very average.
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
I hope Flamini stays :(
Why do all Man United fans rate Anderson so highly. He is an average player. Doesnt do anything spectacular, he is very average.
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
nivek
04-05-2008, 05:14 PM
Why do all Man United fans rate Anderson so highly. He is an average player. Doesnt do anything spectacular, he is very average.
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
im not a man united fan, but anderson works hard in midfield, he just cant score goals
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
im not a man united fan, but anderson works hard in midfield, he just cant score goals
CaTcH21
04-05-2008, 06:05 PM
Why do all Man United fans rate Anderson so highly. He is an average player. Doesnt do anything spectacular, he is very average.
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
yeah why do we MU fans rate him so high ? i mean he is only 19 years and cant score goals ... all he did was cover for Scholes, for 3/4 of the season and what contribution was Anderson to the team :rolleyes:
I guess when you told me to wipe the shyte off my lips, you talk from experience huh ...
The defenders in the team has scored more goals that him. LoL. Oh i forgot, he hasnt scored one goal this season. :D
yeah why do we MU fans rate him so high ? i mean he is only 19 years and cant score goals ... all he did was cover for Scholes, for 3/4 of the season and what contribution was Anderson to the team :rolleyes:
I guess when you told me to wipe the shyte off my lips, you talk from experience huh ...
killadoob
04-05-2008, 06:28 PM
not every midfielder needs to score goals
anderson is great
he rides tackles well
pushes united forward
very physical
he a bulldog and never gives up a chase
he is going be to a patrick viera one day
so much talent, also remember he is only 19 still has alot to learn
anderson is great
he rides tackles well
pushes united forward
very physical
he a bulldog and never gives up a chase
he is going be to a patrick viera one day
so much talent, also remember he is only 19 still has alot to learn
ubercal
04-05-2008, 08:25 PM
Milan confirm Flamini contract
Mathieu Flamini will sign a four-year contract with Milan tonight, confirmed Adriano Galliani, but they put the brakes on Ronaldinho
Mathieu Flamini will sign a four-year contract with Milan tonight, confirmed Adriano Galliani, but they put the brakes on Ronaldinho
ubercal
04-05-2008, 08:25 PM
Milan are going down on Sunday. Inter will beat them in the derby and be crowned scudetto winners for 2008 and most likely seal their fate for uefa cup football. That will be a perfect day for me.
lol@stefan9 ..
Milan 2 Inter 1 sorry mate
lol@stefan9 ..
Milan 2 Inter 1 sorry mate
nivek
04-05-2008, 08:30 PM
f*** milan
hope they lose their last few games and dont make champions league next season
:D
hope they lose their last few games and dont make champions league next season
:D
stefan9
04-05-2008, 11:09 PM
lol@stefan9 ..
Milan 2 Inter 1 sorry mate
Yeah well done to milan.
Even if you did get a huge helping hand from Mancini and hiss poor tactics. Can't believe he didn't start ballotelli and maniche instead of jimenez was pathetic.
Guess waiting a week to celebrate the scudetto ain't that bad.
Milan 2 Inter 1 sorry mate
Yeah well done to milan.
Even if you did get a huge helping hand from Mancini and hiss poor tactics. Can't believe he didn't start ballotelli and maniche instead of jimenez was pathetic.
Guess waiting a week to celebrate the scudetto ain't that bad.
CaTcH21
05-05-2008, 07:16 AM
Yeah well done to milan.
Even if you did get a huge helping hand from Mancini and hiss poor tactics. Can't believe he didn't start ballotelli and maniche instead of jimenez was pathetic.
Guess waiting a week to celebrate the scudetto ain't that bad.
knowing what goes on in Italian football, i wont be surprised if there was money handed under the table.
Even if you did get a huge helping hand from Mancini and hiss poor tactics. Can't believe he didn't start ballotelli and maniche instead of jimenez was pathetic.
Guess waiting a week to celebrate the scudetto ain't that bad.
knowing what goes on in Italian football, i wont be surprised if there was money handed under the table.
CaTcH21
05-05-2008, 11:07 AM
Geez Retarded21 really is everywhere making dumbass comments in almost every thread. Were you dropped on your head as a baby retard21? I am seriously asking.
lol ! they were found guilty of bribery and putting the game into disrepute, and were penalised with points deducted last season. Is that a dumbass comment im making ?
lol ! they were found guilty of bribery and putting the game into disrepute, and were penalised with points deducted last season. Is that a dumbass comment im making ?
snapshot
05-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Yes it is. You dont watch Serie A. Stop acting like you do ;)
CaTcH21
05-05-2008, 11:45 AM
Yes it is. You dont watch Serie A. Stop acting like you do ;)
no i dont, i enjoy watching Barca's ass getting kicked :D , but 6-0 was really something when it counts for nothing :D
no i dont, i enjoy watching Barca's ass getting kicked :D , but 6-0 was really something when it counts for nothing :D
snapshot
05-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Come on man, we all know you a plastic supporter. Stop acting like you know what you talking about. Its been proved that you dont know anything.
kthankbye
kthankbye
CaTcH21
05-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Come on man, we all know you a plastic supporter. Stop acting like you know what you talking about. Its been proved that you dont know anything.
kthankbye
lol, if i dont know what im talking about, how come i know Barca didnt win for 8 straight games ?
kthankbye
lol, if i dont know what im talking about, how come i know Barca didnt win for 8 straight games ?
snapshot
05-05-2008, 11:52 AM
Google is your friend ;)
CaTcH21
05-05-2008, 11:54 AM
Google is your friend ;)
neah i got DSTV interactive ...
neah i got DSTV interactive ...
nivek
12-05-2008, 07:19 AM
Nice... so Milan threw away 4th, and Flamini threw away Champions League football... Good moves all round :D
CaTcH21
12-05-2008, 08:48 AM
Nice... so Milan threw away 4th, and Flamini threw away Champions League football... Good moves all round :D
not yet , theres still 1 game to go with AC playing a very weak side, and they at home. cant see them losing it but i hope they do ...
not yet , theres still 1 game to go with AC playing a very weak side, and they at home. cant see them losing it but i hope they do ...
stefan9
12-05-2008, 10:31 AM
not yet , theres still 1 game to go with AC playing a very weak side, and they at home. cant see them losing it but i hope they do ...
Udinese a weak side?? You don't follow serie a football,do you?? Besides it doesn't depend on milan, Fiorentina has to lose for milan to get cl football.
Udinese a weak side?? You don't follow serie a football,do you?? Besides it doesn't depend on milan, Fiorentina has to lose for milan to get cl football.
snapshot
12-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Stefan, i can confirm. He doesnt follow football. What peevs me is users who comment on things they know nothing about.
CaTcH21
12-05-2008, 02:04 PM
Udinese a weak side?? You don't follow serie a football,do you?? Besides it doesn't depend on milan, Fiorentina has to lose for milan to get cl football.
ahhhh ... i thought Fiorentina were playing Udinese, my bad. but you right, i dont follow Italian football. I just like to browse that section.
ahhhh ... i thought Fiorentina were playing Udinese, my bad. but you right, i dont follow Italian football. I just like to browse that section.
stefan9
12-05-2008, 03:28 PM
ahhhh ... i thought Fiorentina were playing Udinese, my bad. but you right, i dont follow Italian football. I just like to browse that section.
No Fiorentina have Torino away which is much easier than Udinese at Home.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aweek38.html
No Fiorentina have Torino away which is much easier than Udinese at Home.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aweek38.html
nivek
18-05-2008, 06:29 PM
I'd just like to say to Flamini, and Milan, congrats on qualifying for the UEFA CUP
hahahahahaha
:D
hahahahahaha
:D
CaTcH21
18-05-2008, 06:35 PM
I'd just like to say to Flamini, and Milan, congrats on qualifying for the UEFA CUP
hahahahahaha
:D
thinking the same thing, must be feeling like an idiot !
hahahahahaha
:D
thinking the same thing, must be feeling like an idiot !
snapshot
18-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Yeah, they had a bad season. UEFA cup is still a top competition that most of the top teams have won in the past.
stefan9
18-05-2008, 08:17 PM
Yeah, they had a bad season. UEFA cup is still a top competition that most of the top teams have won in the past.
Top competition?? Its a second tier competition. It was worth something when only the top 2 sides in the league qualified for the champions league but not that the top 4 from spain,italy and england qualify the uefa cup is worthless to most of them.
Milan only have themselves to blame. This season will probably force them to invest and revitalise the team.
Anyway well done to my boys on winning our 16th scudetto.:D
Top competition?? Its a second tier competition. It was worth something when only the top 2 sides in the league qualified for the champions league but not that the top 4 from spain,italy and england qualify the uefa cup is worthless to most of them.
Milan only have themselves to blame. This season will probably force them to invest and revitalise the team.
Anyway well done to my boys on winning our 16th scudetto.:D
stefan9
18-05-2008, 08:18 PM
thinking the same thing, must be feeling like an idiot !
Not really he is still earning 20 000 pounds a week more than what Arsenal offered.
Not really he is still earning 20 000 pounds a week more than what Arsenal offered.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:20 PM
The UEFA cup is a great competition with great football being played. I believe that it doesnt get the respect that it deserves. It has always been an amazing competition but the CL always used to over shadow it.
Look at the clubs who won it in the past, great clubs playing good football.
Look at the clubs who won it in the past, great clubs playing good football.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:21 PM
Arsenal should feel like idiots for treating Flamini so bad.
nivek
18-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Arsenal should feel like idiots for treating Flamini so bad.
Why?
He was **** until this season that just passed, and Wenger offered him a new contract in December already, 4 months into the new season, when he showed he was consistently playing well
Not even Birmingham wanted to sign him last year
Why?
He was **** until this season that just passed, and Wenger offered him a new contract in December already, 4 months into the new season, when he showed he was consistently playing well
Not even Birmingham wanted to sign him last year
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:32 PM
Flamini jumped at the AC contract.
Why? Cos he was only given a chance this season at Arsenal. He wasnt good enough in their books. And after making his spot his, and showing what he could do. Now they want to be sad he left.
Bottom line, treat players right and they will treat the club right.
Why? Cos he was only given a chance this season at Arsenal. He wasnt good enough in their books. And after making his spot his, and showing what he could do. Now they want to be sad he left.
Bottom line, treat players right and they will treat the club right.
stefan9
18-05-2008, 08:34 PM
The UEFA cup is a great competition with great football being played. I believe that it doesnt get the respect that it deserves. It has always been an amazing competition but the CL always used to over shadow it.
Look at the clubs who won it in the past, great clubs playing good football.
Look at the clubs who play in it and then look at the clubs who play in the cl.
And great football?? Rangers played some of the worst football this season I have seen a semi final in a European competition play for a long time.
Look at the clubs who won it in the past, great clubs playing good football.
Look at the clubs who play in it and then look at the clubs who play in the cl.
And great football?? Rangers played some of the worst football this season I have seen a semi final in a European competition play for a long time.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Lets look at the stats.
Clubs that have won it in the past.
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Inter Milan
Juventus
But ya, none of those clubs can play great football.
Clubs that have won it in the past.
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Inter Milan
Juventus
But ya, none of those clubs can play great football.
nivek
18-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Flamini jumped at the AC contract.
Why? Cos he was only given a chance this season at Arsenal. He wasnt good enough in their books. And after making his spot his, and showing what he could do. Now they want to be sad he left.
Bottom line, treat players right and they will treat the club right.
He was given plenty chances and proved to be average.. players earn their places in teams because they play well, not because a club is a charity
Flamini was on form and performing this season, hence he was first on the team sheat..
The season before that he still had regular games, but his game play was average and Gilberto was not only on form but also the stand in captain
He was treated fine anyway and given an opportunity, but lets face the fact, the man left for money...
Why? Cos he was only given a chance this season at Arsenal. He wasnt good enough in their books. And after making his spot his, and showing what he could do. Now they want to be sad he left.
Bottom line, treat players right and they will treat the club right.
He was given plenty chances and proved to be average.. players earn their places in teams because they play well, not because a club is a charity
Flamini was on form and performing this season, hence he was first on the team sheat..
The season before that he still had regular games, but his game play was average and Gilberto was not only on form but also the stand in captain
He was treated fine anyway and given an opportunity, but lets face the fact, the man left for money...
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Flamini was always a good player. Wenger didnt play him. Whose fault is that?
Point is, Flamini has moved on. Lets be real, what player will say no to a contract at AC Milan.
Point is, Flamini has moved on. Lets be real, what player will say no to a contract at AC Milan.
nivek
18-05-2008, 08:56 PM
Flamini was always a good player. Wenger didnt play him. Whose fault is that?
Point is, Flamini has moved on. Lets be real, what player will say no to a contract at AC Milan.
He wasnt anything special.. and if he was, he wouldve played..
Point is, Flamini has moved on. Lets be real, what player will say no to a contract at AC Milan.
He wasnt anything special.. and if he was, he wouldve played..
snapshot
18-05-2008, 08:57 PM
Well if he wasnt special, why is most Arsenal supporters blaming Wenger for his departure?
stefan9
18-05-2008, 08:58 PM
Lets look at the stats.
Clubs that have won it in the past.
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Inter Milan
Juventus
But ya, none of those clubs can play great football.
Like I said that was before they increased the cl to 4 teams from italy,spain and england. When last did any of these sides play in the uefa cup??
I know Inter played in 2003 after getting knocked out of the cl group stages and then ended up sending a reserve team to the uefa cup games and concentrating on finish fourth in serie a that season. It was the season when cuper was fired inside the first half of the season.
Clubs that have won it in the past.
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Inter Milan
Juventus
But ya, none of those clubs can play great football.
Like I said that was before they increased the cl to 4 teams from italy,spain and england. When last did any of these sides play in the uefa cup??
I know Inter played in 2003 after getting knocked out of the cl group stages and then ended up sending a reserve team to the uefa cup games and concentrating on finish fourth in serie a that season. It was the season when cuper was fired inside the first half of the season.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:02 PM
Its still a good compeition. Unless you only watch the CL and your league play. I try to watch as much leagues as possible.
UEFA cup has some great teams. Even when the big teams played in the UEFA cup they never won it and thats with full strength teams.
Dont be bamboozled in under rating the UEFA cup. Surely the CL is the 1st prize. But to think that the teams in the UEFA cup are poor would just be daft.
UEFA cup has some great teams. Even when the big teams played in the UEFA cup they never won it and thats with full strength teams.
Dont be bamboozled in under rating the UEFA cup. Surely the CL is the 1st prize. But to think that the teams in the UEFA cup are poor would just be daft.
SuPaStA
18-05-2008, 09:05 PM
Porto won it (uefa) in 2003 and then went on to win the champs league final the following year.
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:07 PM
Porto won it (uefa) in 2003 and then went on to win the champs league final the following year.
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
I couldnt agree more!
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
I couldnt agree more!
Alan
18-05-2008, 09:08 PM
I enjoy the UEFA cup. Zenit are a great side IMO
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:08 PM
I enjoy the UEFA cup. Zenit are a great side IMO
I enjoy it too.
I enjoy it too.
nivek
18-05-2008, 09:13 PM
Well if he wasnt special, why is most Arsenal supporters blaming Wenger for his departure?
because he only started performing consistently this past season and wasnt anything special up until this season... last season 99% of arsenal supporters couldnt give a **** if he left...
because he only started performing consistently this past season and wasnt anything special up until this season... last season 99% of arsenal supporters couldnt give a **** if he left...
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:16 PM
Well no use crying over his departure. He has moved on to a bigger club and is getting paid more ;)
CaTcH21
18-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Not really he is still earning 20 000 pounds a week more than what Arsenal offered.
so he ran away because of the money :rolleyes:
so he ran away because of the money :rolleyes:
nivek
18-05-2008, 09:20 PM
No ones crying I just hope he enjoys the UEFA cup :)
Arsene will replace him with Yaya toure anyway :D
Arsene will replace him with Yaya toure anyway :D
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:21 PM
Im sure he will enjoy the extra cash while playing in the UEFA cup ;)
nivek
18-05-2008, 09:22 PM
no doubt...
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Free transfer must hurt Arsenal a tad bit :D
SuPaStA
18-05-2008, 09:26 PM
He went to a bigger club and is getting more money for it, how hard is that to understand.
Uefa cup or not his going to be in a lot more champs league finals than arsenal in the future. Difference between arsenal and Ac Milan is one club makes headlines and the other one makes history books.
Uefa cup or not his going to be in a lot more champs league finals than arsenal in the future. Difference between arsenal and Ac Milan is one club makes headlines and the other one makes history books.
nivek
18-05-2008, 09:27 PM
Free transfer must hurt Arsenal a tad bit :D
he was a free transfer to arsenal as well, but yes it wouldve been nice to make a bit of money off him
he was a free transfer to arsenal as well, but yes it wouldve been nice to make a bit of money off him
Alan
18-05-2008, 09:38 PM
he was a free transfer to arsenal as well, but yes it wouldve been nice to make a bit of money off him
At least wages are freed up lol :o
At least wages are freed up lol :o
snapshot
18-05-2008, 09:39 PM
He went to a bigger club and is getting more money for it, how hard is that to understand.
Uefa cup or not his going to be in a lot more champs league finals than arsenal in the future. Difference between arsenal and Ac Milan is one club makes headlines and the other one makes history books.
I like your last line.
LoL - too true man.
Uefa cup or not his going to be in a lot more champs league finals than arsenal in the future. Difference between arsenal and Ac Milan is one club makes headlines and the other one makes history books.
I like your last line.
LoL - too true man.
ubercal
18-05-2008, 10:40 PM
so he ran away because of the money :rolleyes:
He left to join the current World Club champions , current UEFA Champions league holders and officially the most successfully club side in world history.Enough said !!!
He left to join the current World Club champions , current UEFA Champions league holders and officially the most successfully club side in world history.Enough said !!!
snapshot
18-05-2008, 10:57 PM
Thats what i cant understand. AC is a bigger and better club than Arsenal. A players dream to play in the San Siro.
stefan9
18-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Porto won it (uefa) in 2003 and then went on to win the champs league final the following year.
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
I never said the UEFA cup wasn't a decent tournament what I said is that the big/great teams do not care about it.
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
The uefa cup is as much a showpiece of football as the champs league and only someone who doesn’t appreciate/understand football will disagree.
I never said the UEFA cup wasn't a decent tournament what I said is that the big/great teams do not care about it.
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
stefan9
18-05-2008, 11:03 PM
so he ran away because of the money :rolleyes:
No he left because Arsenal are stingy when it comes to wages and have always been. They refuse to pay the wages that the other big clubs do and that's why they haven't won something in 4 + years since Viera left.
No he left because Arsenal are stingy when it comes to wages and have always been. They refuse to pay the wages that the other big clubs do and that's why they haven't won something in 4 + years since Viera left.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 11:04 PM
LoL @ lesser teams. You got it so wrong man.
ubercal
18-05-2008, 11:16 PM
I never said the UEFA cup wasn't a decent tournament what I said is that the big/great teams do not care about it.
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
Look the UEFA Cup is not as big as it use to be.I remmember looking forward to them uefa cup games especially in the mid 90s where there were some execellent sides ( whos remmembers the Parma vs Juve game 1995).However it not the same anymore.I any forgot about this season's final.Only realized a day later that it was played the previous day.
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
Look the UEFA Cup is not as big as it use to be.I remmember looking forward to them uefa cup games especially in the mid 90s where there were some execellent sides ( whos remmembers the Parma vs Juve game 1995).However it not the same anymore.I any forgot about this season's final.Only realized a day later that it was played the previous day.
SuPaStA
18-05-2008, 11:23 PM
I never said the UEFA cup wasn't a decent tournament what I said is that the big/great teams do not care about it.
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
What you think of bayern as a team?
It has some decent midtable sides but to say it's a great tournament is over emphasizing it.
The Italian and Spnish cups are also show piece competitions but I would never call them great competitions.
Porto was an exception and that was under mourinho. Have they come close to winning anything in europe since he left?? That still doesn't make the uefa cup a big competition.
Its a good competition to watch and fun for the lesser European sides but its not taken seriously by any of the big european clubs unless they failed and need a trophy to save their season.
Go and ask the Bayern fans what was more important winning the german league or trying to win the uefa cup. Go and ask Fiorentina what was more important finishing fourth in the league and cl football or trying to win the uefa cup.
What you think of bayern as a team?
stefan9
18-05-2008, 11:23 PM
LoL @ lesser teams. You got it so wrong man.
I got it wrong.
Then please tell me if the uefa cup is such a big and prestigious competition why the likes of milan fans are embarrassed that they will be playing in it this coming season and why the bayern fans were upset that they were playing in it this season?
The cup is there for the second string of European teams. Whether you want to believe that is up to you.
I got it wrong.
Then please tell me if the uefa cup is such a big and prestigious competition why the likes of milan fans are embarrassed that they will be playing in it this coming season and why the bayern fans were upset that they were playing in it this season?
The cup is there for the second string of European teams. Whether you want to believe that is up to you.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 11:26 PM
I got it wrong.
Then please tell me if the uefa cup is such a big and prestigious competition why the likes of milan fans are embarrassed that they will be playing in it this coming season and why the bayern fans were upset that they were playing in it this season?
The cup is there for the second string of European teams. Whether you want to believe that is up to you.
I dont think you quite understand. Everybody knows that the cream of the crop is the CL. That is the trophy all the clubs want to win. But to say that the UEFA cup is a cup for lesser teams is wrong.
Sevilla won the UEFA cup last year, had they played any of the top 4 EPL teams i would put my money on them.
If you are a football fan you will appreciate the football being played in the UEFA cup.
Then please tell me if the uefa cup is such a big and prestigious competition why the likes of milan fans are embarrassed that they will be playing in it this coming season and why the bayern fans were upset that they were playing in it this season?
The cup is there for the second string of European teams. Whether you want to believe that is up to you.
I dont think you quite understand. Everybody knows that the cream of the crop is the CL. That is the trophy all the clubs want to win. But to say that the UEFA cup is a cup for lesser teams is wrong.
Sevilla won the UEFA cup last year, had they played any of the top 4 EPL teams i would put my money on them.
If you are a football fan you will appreciate the football being played in the UEFA cup.
SuPaStA
18-05-2008, 11:27 PM
They got knocked out 4-0 that’s the competition in Uefa and if you lived here and spoke to fans of various teams you would know they very passionate about being in europe.
ubercal
18-05-2008, 11:31 PM
They got knocked out 4-0 that’s the competition in Uefa and if you lived here and spoke to fans of various teams you would know they very passionate about being in europe.
The UEFA Cup while still important , its not as prestigeous as it used to be.Its a fact.We dont live in europe but i listen to plenty of football radio ( TalkSport being my favoriate)from europe especially the UK , and its all about the Champions League
The UEFA Cup while still important , its not as prestigeous as it used to be.Its a fact.We dont live in europe but i listen to plenty of football radio ( TalkSport being my favoriate)from europe especially the UK , and its all about the Champions League
snapshot
18-05-2008, 11:32 PM
Yes, it is all about the CL BUT the UEFA cup is still a brilliant competition with brilliant football being played.
stefan9
18-05-2008, 11:33 PM
I dont think you quite understand. Everybody knows that the cream of the crop is the CL. That is the trophy all the clubs want to win. But to say that the UEFA cup is a cup for lesser teams is wrong.
Sevilla won the UEFA cup last year, had they played any of the top 4 EPL teams i would put my money on them.
If you are a football fan you will appreciate the football being played in the UEFA cup.
If telling the truth is wrong then yeah I must be wrong. If the cream of the crop is in one competition who is in the other one?? The lesser teams unless you want to use another term to describe them.
They got knocked out 4-0 that’s the competition in Uefa and if you lived here and spoke to fans of various teams you would know they very passionate about being in europe.
I know very well how passionate fans are. You are obviously very upset when your team loses any game. Even more when you lose 4-0 but once you calm down and reflect calmly the bayern fans would taking losing in the semi's of the uefa cup and winning the german league.
And your assumption that I don't know how passionate fans are is ridiculous. I have been to a milan derby and a milan-celtic game last year I know how the fans are. I am also a moderator on the Forza Inter forums.
Sevilla won the UEFA cup last year, had they played any of the top 4 EPL teams i would put my money on them.
If you are a football fan you will appreciate the football being played in the UEFA cup.
If telling the truth is wrong then yeah I must be wrong. If the cream of the crop is in one competition who is in the other one?? The lesser teams unless you want to use another term to describe them.
They got knocked out 4-0 that’s the competition in Uefa and if you lived here and spoke to fans of various teams you would know they very passionate about being in europe.
I know very well how passionate fans are. You are obviously very upset when your team loses any game. Even more when you lose 4-0 but once you calm down and reflect calmly the bayern fans would taking losing in the semi's of the uefa cup and winning the german league.
And your assumption that I don't know how passionate fans are is ridiculous. I have been to a milan derby and a milan-celtic game last year I know how the fans are. I am also a moderator on the Forza Inter forums.
snapshot
18-05-2008, 11:37 PM
@ Stefan i dont think you are following us. What myself and Supa are saying is that yes the CL is the main compeition in the UEFA calendar. But to say that the UEFA cup isnt important and only poorer teams play in it is just plain wrong.
Look at the past winners of the cup. Do you think when Real Madrid or Inter Milan won the UEFA cup they played poor football?
When Porto won it, did they play poor football? Porto won the CL the next season. Its a great cup, the teams in there are good and have amazing players. Sevilla comes to mind, winning back to back UEFA cups. Watching them play was maginficant, they would take any team on in any league. They played brilliant.
But i guess you dont watch football as closely as i do, cos you only watch the CL and the UEFA cup doesnt interest you.
Look at the past winners of the cup. Do you think when Real Madrid or Inter Milan won the UEFA cup they played poor football?
When Porto won it, did they play poor football? Porto won the CL the next season. Its a great cup, the teams in there are good and have amazing players. Sevilla comes to mind, winning back to back UEFA cups. Watching them play was maginficant, they would take any team on in any league. They played brilliant.
But i guess you dont watch football as closely as i do, cos you only watch the CL and the UEFA cup doesnt interest you.
SuPaStA
18-05-2008, 11:38 PM
The UEFA Cup while still important , its not as prestigeous as it used to be.Its a fact.We dont live in europe but i listen to plenty of football radio ( TalkSport being my favoriate)from europe especially the UK , and its all about the Champions League
Tell that to 45000 fans that filled man city stadium and the 200 000 other fans that came to watch the final but had no tickets.
My friend drove his bike across europe so he could watch his team spurs play in a group stage and then drive back after the match.Thats passion for football/uefa cup.
Tell that to 45000 fans that filled man city stadium and the 200 000 other fans that came to watch the final but had no tickets.
My friend drove his bike across europe so he could watch his team spurs play in a group stage and then drive back after the match.Thats passion for football/uefa cup.
stefan9
19-05-2008, 12:17 AM
@ Stefan i dont think you are following us. What myself and Supa are saying is that yes the CL is the main compeition in the UEFA calendar. But to say that the UEFA cup isnt important and only poorer teams play in it is just plain wrong.
Look at the past winners of the cup. Do you think when Real Madrid or Inter Milan won the UEFA cup they played poor football?
When Porto won it, did they play poor football? Porto won the CL the next season. Its a great cup, the teams in there are good and have amazing players. Sevilla comes to mind, winning back to back UEFA cups. Watching them play was maginficant, they would take any team on in any league. They played brilliant.
But i guess you dont watch football as closely as i do, cos you only watch the CL and the UEFA cup doesnt interest you.
I watched the uefa cup. I saw each and every game fiorentina played this season. I see each and every serie a, la liga and epl game that is shown on dstv plus all the cl and uefa cup games show here. So to say I don't follow the football closely is false.
My point is yes there are some good teams in there . But the overall the quality is not as good as it was. If you look at the uefa cup this season can you honestly tell me that any of those teams except for Bayern Munich have the quality to win next season's cl ??
When Inter and Real madrid played in the uefa cup in the 1990's like I said before the top 4 in the top 3 leagues didn't qualify so the competition in the uefa cup was better.
Look at the past winners of the cup. Do you think when Real Madrid or Inter Milan won the UEFA cup they played poor football?
When Porto won it, did they play poor football? Porto won the CL the next season. Its a great cup, the teams in there are good and have amazing players. Sevilla comes to mind, winning back to back UEFA cups. Watching them play was maginficant, they would take any team on in any league. They played brilliant.
But i guess you dont watch football as closely as i do, cos you only watch the CL and the UEFA cup doesnt interest you.
I watched the uefa cup. I saw each and every game fiorentina played this season. I see each and every serie a, la liga and epl game that is shown on dstv plus all the cl and uefa cup games show here. So to say I don't follow the football closely is false.
My point is yes there are some good teams in there . But the overall the quality is not as good as it was. If you look at the uefa cup this season can you honestly tell me that any of those teams except for Bayern Munich have the quality to win next season's cl ??
When Inter and Real madrid played in the uefa cup in the 1990's like I said before the top 4 in the top 3 leagues didn't qualify so the competition in the uefa cup was better.
snapshot
19-05-2008, 10:06 AM
I watched the uefa cup. I saw each and every game fiorentina played this season. I see each and every serie a, la liga and epl game that is shown on dstv plus all the cl and uefa cup games show here. So to say I don't follow the football closely is false.
My point is yes there are some good teams in there . But the overall the quality is not as good as it was. If you look at the uefa cup this season can you honestly tell me that any of those teams except for Bayern Munich have the quality to win next season's cl ??
When Inter and Real madrid played in the uefa cup in the 1990's like I said before the top 4 in the top 3 leagues didn't qualify so the competition in the uefa cup was better.
Well if the football is so poor in the UEFA cup. Why do you watch every game? Surely it must be entertaining ;)
My point is yes there are some good teams in there . But the overall the quality is not as good as it was. If you look at the uefa cup this season can you honestly tell me that any of those teams except for Bayern Munich have the quality to win next season's cl ??
When Inter and Real madrid played in the uefa cup in the 1990's like I said before the top 4 in the top 3 leagues didn't qualify so the competition in the uefa cup was better.
Well if the football is so poor in the UEFA cup. Why do you watch every game? Surely it must be entertaining ;)
SuPaStA
19-05-2008, 10:07 AM
Was thinking on the way to work, one tournament I think should be taken more serious and its not is the club world cup.
Your views people?
Your views people?
snapshot
19-05-2008, 10:09 AM
Ya, Barca lost in the final last year in the club world cup. Just shows the strength of the teams.
stefan9
19-05-2008, 02:48 PM
Well if the football is so poor in the UEFA cup. Why do you watch every game? Surely it must be entertaining ;)
I didn't say it was poor I said its lesser quality teams than the cl. There's a reason why they schedule it on Thursday nights on separate weeks from the cl football. Also just because I think its not top football doesn't mean its not entertaining.:)
I didn't say it was poor I said its lesser quality teams than the cl. There's a reason why they schedule it on Thursday nights on separate weeks from the cl football. Also just because I think its not top football doesn't mean its not entertaining.:)
SuPaStA
19-05-2008, 08:06 PM
What has the tv schedule got to do with anything?
I think you need to look up the definition of "top flight" football as the teams in uefa are as good as any other team in the champs league.
The fact they never had consistency in their domestic league hence they finished out of contention for the champs league doesn’t mean they dont have the capability to beat any champs league winner/team on the day.
I think you need to look up the definition of "top flight" football as the teams in uefa are as good as any other team in the champs league.
The fact they never had consistency in their domestic league hence they finished out of contention for the champs league doesn’t mean they dont have the capability to beat any champs league winner/team on the day.
nivek
19-05-2008, 08:27 PM
Lets be realistic, yes the UEFA cup is pretty... but the champions league is where its at and where AC Milan wants to play... clubs of champions league quality dont give a fck about the uefa cup..
the champions league can be the difference between a player signing for your club or not..
Do you think AC would rather play against the 5th and 6th best in England/Spain, or the top 4? Cos those are the clubs that play in the UEFA Cup... 5th place!!!
Not to mention the money lost by not having a champions league spot
the champions league can be the difference between a player signing for your club or not..
Do you think AC would rather play against the 5th and 6th best in England/Spain, or the top 4? Cos those are the clubs that play in the UEFA Cup... 5th place!!!
Not to mention the money lost by not having a champions league spot
CaTcH21
19-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Lets be realistic, yes the UEFA cup is pretty... but the champions league is where its at and where AC Milan wants to play... clubs of champions league quality dont give a fck about the uefa cup..
the champions league can be the difference between a player signing for your club or not..
Do you think AC would rather play against the 5th and 6th best in England/Spain, or the top 4? Cos those are the clubs that play in the UEFA Cup... 5th place!!!
Not to mention the money lost by not having a champions league spot
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the champions league can be the difference between a player signing for your club or not..
Do you think AC would rather play against the 5th and 6th best in England/Spain, or the top 4? Cos those are the clubs that play in the UEFA Cup... 5th place!!!
Not to mention the money lost by not having a champions league spot
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SuPaStA
19-05-2008, 08:56 PM
@catch21
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
@nivek
MY initially point was the fact that you stated clubs/people don’t care about the tournament, thats what I'm trying to get across is, its a big tournament which players/teams/fans care about and not to play it down.
Revenue wise Ac would have lost out but I doubt it will affect their spending spree for next season.
Interested to see what the cost difference is actually...any ideas?
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
@nivek
MY initially point was the fact that you stated clubs/people don’t care about the tournament, thats what I'm trying to get across is, its a big tournament which players/teams/fans care about and not to play it down.
Revenue wise Ac would have lost out but I doubt it will affect their spending spree for next season.
Interested to see what the cost difference is actually...any ideas?
stefan9
19-05-2008, 11:01 PM
@catch21
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
@nivek
MY initially point was the fact that you stated clubs/people don’t care about the tournament, thats what I'm trying to get across is, its a big tournament which players/teams/fans care about and not to play it down.
Revenue wise Ac would have lost out but I doubt it will affect their spending spree for next season.
Interested to see what the cost difference is actually...any ideas?
The difference is about 50 million euros playing in the cl vs uefa cup. This was the figure Gazzeta dello sport quoted milan as losing out on if they were to go out at the groupstage of cl as opposed to playing uefa cup football.
I still by my opinion that the real big clubs the top 10 in the world do not care for the uefa cup.
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
@nivek
MY initially point was the fact that you stated clubs/people don’t care about the tournament, thats what I'm trying to get across is, its a big tournament which players/teams/fans care about and not to play it down.
Revenue wise Ac would have lost out but I doubt it will affect their spending spree for next season.
Interested to see what the cost difference is actually...any ideas?
The difference is about 50 million euros playing in the cl vs uefa cup. This was the figure Gazzeta dello sport quoted milan as losing out on if they were to go out at the groupstage of cl as opposed to playing uefa cup football.
I still by my opinion that the real big clubs the top 10 in the world do not care for the uefa cup.
snapshot
19-05-2008, 11:09 PM
I dont think we are on the same page. Of COURSE all clubs want to play in the CL. I believe it is even better than the World Cup. I love the Champions League.
What i am saying is that the UEFA cup does not get the respect it deserves. Its a great competition with great teams and amazing players. Really good players!
I njoy watching it!
What i am saying is that the UEFA cup does not get the respect it deserves. Its a great competition with great teams and amazing players. Really good players!
I njoy watching it!
SuPaStA
19-05-2008, 11:11 PM
The difference is about 50 million euros playing in the cl vs uefa cup. This was the figure Gazzeta dello sport quoted milan as losing out on if they were to go out at the groupstage of cl as opposed to playing uefa cup football.
I still by my opinion that the real big clubs the top 10 in the world do not care for the uefa cup.
Tell that to FC Bayern Munich biggest club in german history, after getting knocked out 4-0.
I still by my opinion that the real big clubs the top 10 in the world do not care for the uefa cup.
Tell that to FC Bayern Munich biggest club in german history, after getting knocked out 4-0.
CaTcH21
20-05-2008, 08:47 AM
@catch21
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
someone learnt something new, dont overdo it now ok, cos you over-played bandwagon.
Go troll somewhere else, you have no valid point to contribute.
someone learnt something new, dont overdo it now ok, cos you over-played bandwagon.
stefan9
20-05-2008, 10:22 AM
Tell that to FC Bayern Munich biggest club in german history, after getting knocked out 4-0.
Ask them whether they would have rather won the uefa cup or the german league.;)
Ask them whether they would have rather won the uefa cup or the german league.;)
Kule
01-06-2008, 04:18 AM
We offloaded Zambrotta to you guys
Kule
01-06-2008, 11:52 PM
What are your guys views on Ronaldinho coming to the San Siro?
ubercal
04-06-2008, 06:49 PM
What are your guys views on Ronaldinho coming to the San Siro?
I certainly wont be complaining if he does come.
I certainly wont be complaining if he does come.
ubercal
04-06-2008, 06:51 PM
We offloaded Zambrotta to you guys
Why does Milan also have to buy players in their 30s.Its like a dam old age home their.They should have gone for Daniel Alves from Sevilla.
Why does Milan also have to buy players in their 30s.Its like a dam old age home their.They should have gone for Daniel Alves from Sevilla.
Kule
05-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Every single club wants Alves!
Barca will sign him :D
Barca will sign him :D
nivek
05-06-2008, 07:25 AM
looks like milan are in the champions league through the backdoor :( wonder who they bribed
SuPaStA
05-06-2008, 10:33 AM
Its because CSKA Sofia could get kicked out of the competition due to financial problems.If that happens fifa will be giving the place to the highest ranked team that is not in the tournament.
Kule
05-06-2008, 10:34 AM
Oh, is that why.
Meisteral
05-06-2008, 11:37 AM
looks like milan are in the champions league through the backdoor :( wonder who they bribed
Can't find an article on it but interesting and great if they do - They are a decent side and for me, missed in CL. (lol - money under the table scenario)
Can't find an article on it but interesting and great if they do - They are a decent side and for me, missed in CL. (lol - money under the table scenario)
ubercal
05-06-2008, 10:12 PM
looks like milan are in the champions league through the backdoor :( wonder who they bribed
Milan wouldnt do that.Maybe Juve , inter or real madrid.Milan is a fanastic club where family values are instilled into everyone associated with the club.
Milan wouldnt do that.Maybe Juve , inter or real madrid.Milan is a fanastic club where family values are instilled into everyone associated with the club.
SuPaStA
18-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Nice thread! I really like your provided information. It's really helpful for me.
Thanks a lot!
What info was helpful to you?
You seem like a spammer, all 4 of your posts are just saying thanks in random threads.
Thanks a lot!
What info was helpful to you?
You seem like a spammer, all 4 of your posts are just saying thanks in random threads.