Gunther
06-05-2008, 12:22 PM
I think 10 Gig at the speed they offer is great for R599. What was everyone expecting exactly? Seems like the vast majority of people are still unhappy. :confused:
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ldmelsa
06-05-2008, 12:28 PM
I think 10 Gig at the speed they offer is great for R599. What was everyone expecting exactly? Seems like the vast majority of people are still unhappy. :confused:
That's 10GB for the entire month, Gunther. They have access to SAT3.
That's 10GB for the entire month, Gunther. They have access to SAT3.
limnos
06-05-2008, 12:31 PM
Hardly any one is covered with CDMA reception in Joburg. And come on, no one even knows yet if that 10GB will be shaped or not? What happens when you get capped?
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
Gunther
06-05-2008, 12:34 PM
How much did you expect then ldmelsa? 50 Gig?
SYNERGY
06-05-2008, 12:46 PM
How about Internet access Only package?
Its bundled with the free minutes/sms for market capture, Neotel to neotel only.
Besides the cheaper packages internet speeds are not even braodband.
Its bundled with the free minutes/sms for market capture, Neotel to neotel only.
Besides the cheaper packages internet speeds are not even braodband.
ldmelsa
06-05-2008, 12:55 PM
How much did you expect then ldmelsa? 50 Gig?
R600!
R600!
Gunther
06-05-2008, 12:56 PM
How about Internet access Only package?
Its bundled with the free minutes/sms for market capture, Neotel to neotel only.
Besides the cheaper packages internet speeds are not even braodband.
Yes. But I suppose they are trying to get telephone clients and not only internet clients. And R600 is a good price for everything you get (to the other poster).
Its bundled with the free minutes/sms for market capture, Neotel to neotel only.
Besides the cheaper packages internet speeds are not even braodband.
Yes. But I suppose they are trying to get telephone clients and not only internet clients. And R600 is a good price for everything you get (to the other poster).
Just_Ice
06-05-2008, 02:55 PM
Hardly any one is covered with CDMA reception in Joburg. And come on, no one even knows yet if that 10GB will be shaped or not? What happens when you get capped?
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
But not too early to become infatuated with! lol
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
But not too early to become infatuated with! lol
Glordit
06-05-2008, 03:26 PM
I think the uncapped is unshaped. Not to sure if the capped option is not.Otherwise can't wait for them to Come to PE... :mad:
jsheed_sa
06-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Hardly any one is covered with CDMA reception in Joburg. And come on, no one even knows yet if that 10GB will be shaped or not? What happens when you get capped?
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
Its unshaped they have always said so - I suggest you go read the press releases again.
J
Things are still too early to 'fall in love' with :)
EDIT: Apparently its unshaped..
Its unshaped they have always said so - I suggest you go read the press releases again.
J
rpm
06-05-2008, 04:20 PM
I also feel that Neotel’s pricing structure is good news for the local broadband space. They effectively lift the broadband bar to 10 GB for R 599 (device included) and their lower end offerings should also be competitive.
Even if the offerings don’t suit you, it does bring pricing pressure into the market and may force other providers to respond. I just hope they expand their coverage quickly and provide great service as this will ensure pressure on providers like Telkom & iBurst…
Even if the offerings don’t suit you, it does bring pricing pressure into the market and may force other providers to respond. I just hope they expand their coverage quickly and provide great service as this will ensure pressure on providers like Telkom & iBurst…
AntiThesis
06-05-2008, 04:23 PM
See my sig for my opinion :D
Perhaps I'll make a I <3 NeoTel shirt ;)
Perhaps I'll make a I <3 NeoTel shirt ;)
Jonny Two Shoes
06-05-2008, 04:28 PM
How about they don't cap us at all????? CAP???? Flipping Cap!???!?!??!?!?!?#$!I$()*!&
I hate the word cap....wear a cap, bust a cap FFS get this cap mentality out of your darn minds!!! Neotel bought the capping idea from Telkom plain and simple. I don't see the cuzzies in India being capped, do you? I google "capped Internet Access" and what do I see??? .co.za sites all over the place and some ISP in America called WhiteCap who is actually uncapped @ 10 dollars
I hate the word cap....wear a cap, bust a cap FFS get this cap mentality out of your darn minds!!! Neotel bought the capping idea from Telkom plain and simple. I don't see the cuzzies in India being capped, do you? I google "capped Internet Access" and what do I see??? .co.za sites all over the place and some ISP in America called WhiteCap who is actually uncapped @ 10 dollars
Surv0
06-05-2008, 04:47 PM
I also feel that Neotel’s pricing structure is good news for the local broadband space. They effectively lift the broadband bar to 10 GB for R 599 (device included) and their lower end offerings should also be competitive.
Even if the offerings don’t suit you, it does bring pricing pressure into the market and may force other providers to respond. I just hope they expand their coverage quickly and provide great service as this will ensure pressure on providers like Telkom & iBurst…
+1 :)
Even if the offerings don’t suit you, it does bring pricing pressure into the market and may force other providers to respond. I just hope they expand their coverage quickly and provide great service as this will ensure pressure on providers like Telkom & iBurst…
+1 :)
stoke
06-05-2008, 05:07 PM
How much did you expect then ldmelsa? 50 Gig?Capping is a sensless moronic practice. It implies that you are paying per GB, but they don't carry your "unused" throughput over, so it's all a lie.
Either make us pay per MB and be honest about it, or carry over the unused amounts.
What does happen if you use more than 10GB with Neotel? Suddenly you have 0 options to get connectivity going again. How freaking thick is that? What a lame freaking product.
LIKE:
Capping is like filling your car at the beginning of each month, and then being forced to fill it again next month, never mind how much you actually traveled. And, in Neotel's case, if you did actually drive to Cape Town, you'd not be able to drive back until next month. Lame!
I thought Neotel would not perpetuate the same crap that Teklom have created, and would instead sell packages that are logical.
Yea, I know I am completely and utterly insane.
Either make us pay per MB and be honest about it, or carry over the unused amounts.
What does happen if you use more than 10GB with Neotel? Suddenly you have 0 options to get connectivity going again. How freaking thick is that? What a lame freaking product.
LIKE:
Capping is like filling your car at the beginning of each month, and then being forced to fill it again next month, never mind how much you actually traveled. And, in Neotel's case, if you did actually drive to Cape Town, you'd not be able to drive back until next month. Lame!
I thought Neotel would not perpetuate the same crap that Teklom have created, and would instead sell packages that are logical.
Yea, I know I am completely and utterly insane.
cavedog
06-05-2008, 05:26 PM
Yes once the real uncapped prices start I will move since that. They are actually wasting my time. Im not going to that much! Its double the price of Australlia with 24mbs ADSL2+ ftw. So since we can match that im moving to Aus next year Feb. Ohh wait im moving anyways! Broadband in SA will never be good. Can beleive they say that we meet international standards. WTF its a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glordit
06-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Yes once the real uncapped prices start I will move since that. They are actually wasting my time. Im not going to that much! Its double the price of Australlia with 24mbs ADSL2+ ftw. So since we can match that im moving to Aus next year Feb. Ohh wait im moving anyways! Broadband in SA will never be good. Can beleive they say that we meet international standards. WTF its a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I climb in your bag and come with?
I will eat very little and take up as much space as a bed, and just need 2Mb's of that 24mb DSL :D
Can I climb in your bag and come with?
I will eat very little and take up as much space as a bed, and just need 2Mb's of that 24mb DSL :D
rvanwyk
06-05-2008, 06:07 PM
anyone know of a coverage map?
rpm, do you have some information as to which areas (especially in jhb) will get covered first?
rpm, do you have some information as to which areas (especially in jhb) will get covered first?
Lino
06-05-2008, 07:13 PM
"I love you Neotel" well all I can say to that is, someone has to. I suppose its better than no competition but at the moment what reason do I have to move from Telkom?
MrG
06-05-2008, 07:52 PM
I make total use of two 30GB ISDSL Local accounts..
Does Neotel cater for my large local needs? I pay more because of the 4Mbit line, but a friend has the same setup and pays R499 for 384kbps DSL. 3GB International, 60GB Local
So no, there is no need for me to switch from TelkomADSL to Neotel
Does Neotel cater for my large local needs? I pay more because of the 4Mbit line, but a friend has the same setup and pays R499 for 384kbps DSL. 3GB International, 60GB Local
So no, there is no need for me to switch from TelkomADSL to Neotel
Gunther
06-05-2008, 10:42 PM
I don't really love Neotel. I'm just saying that almost everyone seems to have completely unreal expectations. Yes the offer is not the best in the world, but it's still better than Telkom. Wait for Seacom and then you can expect proper uncapped at proper speed. Right now it is not possible.
ldmelsa
07-05-2008, 01:47 AM
I'm just saying that almost everyone seems to have completely unreal expectations.
Yes, I think we do. It's actually government's doing. Not the actual companies. You are right. We should not direct our anger at Neotel or Telkom, but at the DOC. They are the ones to blame, because they are very slow at opening up the market.
Yes, I think we do. It's actually government's doing. Not the actual companies. You are right. We should not direct our anger at Neotel or Telkom, but at the DOC. They are the ones to blame, because they are very slow at opening up the market.
rpm
07-05-2008, 01:52 AM
anyone know of a coverage map? rpm, do you have some information as to which areas (especially in jhb) will get covered first?Many areas are covered already - most of the major JHB business areas. I think Neotel will release a map towards the end of the month...
eltherza
07-05-2008, 07:09 AM
I still think R600 is too much for "low end". give me 60% of all that and i'll sign up today (6GB cap at R400 pm, i dont care about free sms and minutes)
BTTB
07-05-2008, 07:15 AM
Yea, I know I am completely and utterly insane.
Only if you reply back to your own post and agree with yourself.
Go on do it .. just do it .. LOL :D
Only if you reply back to your own post and agree with yourself.
Go on do it .. just do it .. LOL :D
Ozymandias
07-05-2008, 10:04 AM
I still think R600 is too much for "low end". give me 60% of all that and i'll sign up today (6GB cap at R400 pm, i dont care about free sms and minutes)
That would suit me as well. Hopefully, the mid-range and low-range packages for NeoConnect Prime are just around the corner. The doBroadband level 3 (4 mbps + 3 Gigs) is priced at R554 and only has a throughput of about 400 kbps on international. Neotel matches that speed and I reckon that Telkom would lose all bowel control if such a package was available for R400.
That would suit me as well. Hopefully, the mid-range and low-range packages for NeoConnect Prime are just around the corner. The doBroadband level 3 (4 mbps + 3 Gigs) is priced at R554 and only has a throughput of about 400 kbps on international. Neotel matches that speed and I reckon that Telkom would lose all bowel control if such a package was available for R400.
stoke
07-05-2008, 10:08 AM
Only if you reply back to your own post and agree with yourself.
Go on do it .. just do it .. LOL :DWe refuse on the bases that we may be admitting to something else entirely if we do! :p
But, seriously, I mean ... why oh why did they HAVE to use the word CAP in their products?
Go on do it .. just do it .. LOL :DWe refuse on the bases that we may be admitting to something else entirely if we do! :p
But, seriously, I mean ... why oh why did they HAVE to use the word CAP in their products?
BTTB
07-05-2008, 11:39 AM
We refuse on the bases that we may be admitting to something else entirely if we do! :p
But, seriously, I mean ... why oh why did they HAVE to use the word CAP in their products?
Hehe. :D
Re the word CAP. A vague word by ICASA definitions.
Isn't this partly how Telkom's Lawyers managed to pull the The MYADSL ADSL Complaint to pieces by the vagueness of the definition of CR@P .. oops I mean CAP. :)
We can define it by calling it the Dreaded CAP or CR@P CAP.
Hopefully Neotel will see the light and be more innovative with their products as opposed to The Incumbent who basks in the sun of vagueness.
But, seriously, I mean ... why oh why did they HAVE to use the word CAP in their products?
Hehe. :D
Re the word CAP. A vague word by ICASA definitions.
Isn't this partly how Telkom's Lawyers managed to pull the The MYADSL ADSL Complaint to pieces by the vagueness of the definition of CR@P .. oops I mean CAP. :)
We can define it by calling it the Dreaded CAP or CR@P CAP.
Hopefully Neotel will see the light and be more innovative with their products as opposed to The Incumbent who basks in the sun of vagueness.
Freaksta
07-05-2008, 04:55 PM
lol i love how u all expect them to jump into the market and give you uncapped at a low low price... What RPM said is 100% correct, they are putting pressure onto the market which can only do good things for us, be reasonable we don't live in a 1st world country we dont have 100 cables crossing our coast lines.. I dought we will see a proper uncapped (high speeds) for a very long time, for now what we need is better prices and larger caps.
7eviathan
14-05-2008, 09:49 AM
I hate cap and I went to Poland and UK for holiday for 2 years. Both are similar price that internet speed up to 20Mb per second with bandwidth usage is unlimted and cost is about R300 per month. Neotel and SA Internet is so far very expensive and not health for everyone. You can't leave your Internet online to brothers, sisters, friends to use it while you sleep.
:-/
:-/
HellTel
14-05-2008, 07:31 PM
It is utterly insane to even think that 10Gigs for R599 is acceptable.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE .. and until Neotel accepts the fact that it is no acceptable they can take their product and stick it ....
LMAO @ 24 month contract .. like I said before!! Another beast in the making ... ask Neotel management if there is a package in India that is as expensive as the one they are trying to offer ...
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE .. and until Neotel accepts the fact that it is no acceptable they can take their product and stick it ....
LMAO @ 24 month contract .. like I said before!! Another beast in the making ... ask Neotel management if there is a package in India that is as expensive as the one they are trying to offer ...
matrixweb
14-05-2008, 08:17 PM
It is utterly insane to even think that 10Gigs for R599 is acceptable.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE .. and until Neotel accepts the fact that it is no acceptable they can take their product and stick it ....
LMAO @ 24 month contract .. like I said before!! Another beast in the making ... ask Neotel management if there is a package in India that is as expensive as the one they are trying to offer ...
maybe cheaper when they start getting ppl
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE .. and until Neotel accepts the fact that it is no acceptable they can take their product and stick it ....
LMAO @ 24 month contract .. like I said before!! Another beast in the making ... ask Neotel management if there is a package in India that is as expensive as the one they are trying to offer ...
maybe cheaper when they start getting ppl