matrixweb
26-05-2008, 01:00 PM
Telkom officially said it is testing 8mbps so what will neotel do? speed up their fixed line services? maybe start a plan to make 8mbps or higher? we just got to wait and see, only if there was a neotel rep to confirm?
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gdiza
26-05-2008, 01:02 PM
Neotel won't do anything, they're still sorting themselves out, give them a year or so, then you will see things change :)
Wanting something so soon is just asking for a miracle which we all know is something we won't get anytime soon.
Wanting something so soon is just asking for a miracle which we all know is something we won't get anytime soon.
Just_Ice
26-05-2008, 02:56 PM
They will eventually upgrade their cdma service to higher speeds. Not anytime soon though!
kaspaas
26-05-2008, 03:45 PM
How many people will actually notice the difference between Neotel's current fast internet access and 8Mb/s Telkom ADSL?
For all practical purposes web pages should load in a blink at both speeds - depending on the backhaul and the speed at which the webserver can deliver.
For all practical purposes web pages should load in a blink at both speeds - depending on the backhaul and the speed at which the webserver can deliver.
Tsimo
26-05-2008, 04:10 PM
and what use is 8 mbps with 1 gb cap?
pierrehugo
26-05-2008, 04:16 PM
8mbps is a marketing stratigy... now for newshost that would rock
Ekhaatvensters
26-05-2008, 04:37 PM
How many people will actually notice the difference between Neotel's current fast internet access and 8Mb/s Telkom ADSL?
For all practical purposes web pages should load in a blink at both speeds - depending on the backhaul and the speed at which the webserver can deliver.
Lots of people, because Neotel will be wireless. It should be easily noticeable on local and cached content.
Websites won't load in a blink, they should load at the same speed that 4mbps does right now, and probably significantly slower on Neotel with big flash pages. Real world speeds of 300-700kb aren't that impressive. :(
For all practical purposes web pages should load in a blink at both speeds - depending on the backhaul and the speed at which the webserver can deliver.
Lots of people, because Neotel will be wireless. It should be easily noticeable on local and cached content.
Websites won't load in a blink, they should load at the same speed that 4mbps does right now, and probably significantly slower on Neotel with big flash pages. Real world speeds of 300-700kb aren't that impressive. :(
Ekhaatvensters
26-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Telkom officially said it is testing 8mbps so what will neotel do? speed up their fixed line services?
What fixed line services? We don't know anything about their speeds or even plans for fixed line yet. If they are building their infrastructure from scratch then it will most likely be faster than 8mbps.
If you mean CDMA then it isn't up to them. They have to wait for faster revisions of the technology to come out. They should get to 3.1mbps pretty soon then it will take a while from there.
What fixed line services? We don't know anything about their speeds or even plans for fixed line yet. If they are building their infrastructure from scratch then it will most likely be faster than 8mbps.
If you mean CDMA then it isn't up to them. They have to wait for faster revisions of the technology to come out. They should get to 3.1mbps pretty soon then it will take a while from there.
limnos
26-05-2008, 05:45 PM
Telkom officially said it is testing 8mbps so what will neotel do? speed up their fixed line services? maybe start a plan to make 8mbps or higher? we just got to wait and see, only if there was a neotel rep to confirm?
Where did you get this information from?
Where did you get this information from?
hj2k_x
26-05-2008, 05:47 PM
Neotel won't do anything, they're still sorting themselves out, give them a year or so, then you will see things change :)
Wanting something so soon is just asking for a miracle which we all know is something we won't get anytime soon.
Yip. As it is they are not in direct competition with Telkom yet anyway. This only means they have more catching up to do when they release their ADSL product.
Wanting something so soon is just asking for a miracle which we all know is something we won't get anytime soon.
Yip. As it is they are not in direct competition with Telkom yet anyway. This only means they have more catching up to do when they release their ADSL product.
chopsky
26-05-2008, 06:18 PM
Hell, I'd take 512kbps uncapped over 8mbps with a cap any day of the week.
Just_Ice
27-05-2008, 03:06 PM
Hell, I'd take 512kbps uncapped over 8mbps with a cap any day of the week.
I would take the 8 if it was a decent cap! 30 gigs maybe.
I would take the 8 if it was a decent cap! 30 gigs maybe.
Logo
27-05-2008, 05:47 PM
They will eventually upgrade their cdma service to higher speeds. Not anytime soon though!
First to the original question what will Neotel do, nothing cause they don't have any fixed line service as yet.
And in response to the quote above, CDMA cannot even get close to 8mbps, currently CDMA rev B will only offer a max of 4,9mbps connections and with Neotel just launching Rev A at the moment I cannot see them upgrading to Rev B any time soon.
And finally with Telkom currently getting ready to unbundle it's services and sell them off, don't take too much notice of what they are saying about future services
http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-24_2329821
First to the original question what will Neotel do, nothing cause they don't have any fixed line service as yet.
And in response to the quote above, CDMA cannot even get close to 8mbps, currently CDMA rev B will only offer a max of 4,9mbps connections and with Neotel just launching Rev A at the moment I cannot see them upgrading to Rev B any time soon.
And finally with Telkom currently getting ready to unbundle it's services and sell them off, don't take too much notice of what they are saying about future services
http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-24_2329821
Just_Ice
27-05-2008, 06:04 PM
How would neotel go about upgrading to Revision B? Is it a whole process or what?
Logo
27-05-2008, 06:45 PM
How would neotel go about upgrading to Revision B? Is it a whole process or what?
I am not sure of the step by step details, but it would most likely include upgrading of their receivers and possibly client side phones as well.
The main reason I think they will not upgrade any time soon is because even the major carriers like Sprint and Verizon are saying that they are not considering upgrading to Rev B. They claim that although Rev B is offering greater speed it will more than likely be replaced by Wimax. And we know that Neotel will be deploying WiMax in the future.
But Qualcomm recently said that Wimax is dead and will be replaced by 802.20. Apparently Qualcomm recently rolled out WiMax and they are having some major problems with it.
Please do note I don't work in the telecoms industry and I don't have any special insight to Neotel's plans. This is just information from a number of articles I have read.
I am not sure of the step by step details, but it would most likely include upgrading of their receivers and possibly client side phones as well.
The main reason I think they will not upgrade any time soon is because even the major carriers like Sprint and Verizon are saying that they are not considering upgrading to Rev B. They claim that although Rev B is offering greater speed it will more than likely be replaced by Wimax. And we know that Neotel will be deploying WiMax in the future.
But Qualcomm recently said that Wimax is dead and will be replaced by 802.20. Apparently Qualcomm recently rolled out WiMax and they are having some major problems with it.
Please do note I don't work in the telecoms industry and I don't have any special insight to Neotel's plans. This is just information from a number of articles I have read.
Ekhaatvensters
27-05-2008, 07:58 PM
And in response to the quote above, CDMA cannot even get close to 8mbps, currently CDMA rev B will only offer a max of 4,9mbps connections and with Neotel just launching Rev A at the moment I cannot see them upgrading to Rev B any time soon.
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc :eek:). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc :eek:). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
Balstrome
27-05-2008, 11:40 PM
I would take the 8 if it was a decent cap! 30 gigs maybe.
in other words, 7 days full steam on a 384k line, makes sense. True Internet for one week a month. Progress
in other words, 7 days full steam on a 384k line, makes sense. True Internet for one week a month. Progress
Ekhaatvensters
28-05-2008, 11:01 AM
in other words, 7 days full steam on a 384k line, makes sense. True Internet for one week a month. Progress
Huh.. so that's the point of the internet, to be downloading 24/7? No life, Just internet. :D
With an 8mb line I'd want around 50GB to be happy, but I probably wouldn't bother to find enough stuff to download most months.
Huh.. so that's the point of the internet, to be downloading 24/7? No life, Just internet. :D
With an 8mb line I'd want around 50GB to be happy, but I probably wouldn't bother to find enough stuff to download most months.
Just_Ice
28-05-2008, 01:10 PM
in other words, 7 days full steam on a 384k line, makes sense. True Internet for one week a month. Progress
We dont all sit on internet downloading pron 24/7 balstrome...
We dont all sit on internet downloading pron 24/7 balstrome...
Chevron
28-05-2008, 01:44 PM
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc :eek:). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.
matrixweb
28-05-2008, 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Ekhaatvensters View Post
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc ). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.
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The Quote Function Was Not Working , but wtf 70mbps??? that will be in about 7-70 years:D
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc ). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.
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The Quote Function Was Not Working , but wtf 70mbps??? that will be in about 7-70 years:D
Moederloos
28-05-2008, 01:49 PM
Really could not care less about speed - just give me data throughput.
The_Librarian
28-05-2008, 01:49 PM
I think Neotel's gearing up to do some real business, but Telkom's doing window dressing.
The window dressing will collapse soon enough anyway :D
The window dressing will collapse soon enough anyway :D
The_Librarian
28-05-2008, 01:50 PM
Really could not care less about speed - just give me consistent data throughput.
fixed it ;)
fixed it ;)
Ekhaatvensters
30-05-2008, 03:15 PM
Really could not care less about speed - just give me data throughput.
Isn't that the same thing?
Do you mean what Lib changed it to, or more like an end to data caps?
Isn't that the same thing?
Do you mean what Lib changed it to, or more like an end to data caps?
InsaniacZA
04-06-2008, 04:37 PM
most telkom users wont get close to 8mbps, most are borderline on their 4mb lines... love to see this become a success... especially without ADSL2+ being introduced... noob lines = noob service.
estmmn2
25-01-2010, 12:48 AM
I was reading a new thread regarding Telkom's 8Mbps ADSL trial tests -> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/11215.html
and I stumbled on this one which is older.
The posts are interesting , especially regarding the date they were created(mid 2008).
Neotel was looking promising , but Telkom not.Now it might change , anyway , this is the most interesting part ...
Qwikslver
Quote Originally Posted by Ekhaatvensters View Post
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc ). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.:D
Followed by this one
The Quote Function Was Not Working , but wtf 70mbps??? that will be in about 7-70 years
:mad:
Does anyone know what Neotel's upgrade plans are in terms of network , internet speed and when such things will occur?
and I stumbled on this one which is older.
The posts are interesting , especially regarding the date they were created(mid 2008).
Neotel was looking promising , but Telkom not.Now it might change , anyway , this is the most interesting part ...
Qwikslver
Quote Originally Posted by Ekhaatvensters View Post
I'm quite sure that they have said that they plan to upgrade to 3.1 mbps quite soon though (It was during 2008 iirc ). I'll try find the link.. EDIT: "This corresponds to peak speeds of 2.4 Mbps over EV-DO Rel 0 technology, and of 3.1 Mbps over EV-DO Rev A technology."
This answers my question. However I'm not really sure what that means wrt "upgrading" to 3.1mbps, which is in any case not much faster and I'm not sure of the effect on real world speeds.
From Neotel's site:
EV-DO Rev A offering peak 3.1 megabits per second, EV-DO Rev B in the near future which will deliver peak speeds in the region of 15 megabits per second and EV-DO Rev C in the longer term, which will deliver peak speeds of over 70 megabits per second.:D
Followed by this one
The Quote Function Was Not Working , but wtf 70mbps??? that will be in about 7-70 years
:mad:
Does anyone know what Neotel's upgrade plans are in terms of network , internet speed and when such things will occur?
Neotel
27-01-2010, 11:50 PM
First to the original question what will Neotel do, nothing cause they don't have any fixed line service as yet.
And in response to the quote above, CDMA cannot even get close to 8mbps, currently CDMA rev B will only offer a max of 4,9mbps connections and with Neotel just launching Rev A at the moment I cannot see them upgrading to Rev B any time soon.
And finally with Telkom currently getting ready to unbundle it's services and sell them off, don't take too much notice of what they are saying about future services
http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-24_2329821
LOGO
Fixed Line (hereforth FIBRE) is our main interface cabling, including backhaul from CDMA sites as well as service offered to Enterprise. We as well have WiMax (Microwave transition inluding compatibility to Radio) and the CDMA (Radio) - consumer base including you.
FTTH is in pilot phase now with Dainfern in Fourways (JHB).
FTTH: Fibre to the House (still long time though before we will offer this as a through value option to residential
Hugo
And in response to the quote above, CDMA cannot even get close to 8mbps, currently CDMA rev B will only offer a max of 4,9mbps connections and with Neotel just launching Rev A at the moment I cannot see them upgrading to Rev B any time soon.
And finally with Telkom currently getting ready to unbundle it's services and sell them off, don't take too much notice of what they are saying about future services
http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-24_2329821
LOGO
Fixed Line (hereforth FIBRE) is our main interface cabling, including backhaul from CDMA sites as well as service offered to Enterprise. We as well have WiMax (Microwave transition inluding compatibility to Radio) and the CDMA (Radio) - consumer base including you.
FTTH is in pilot phase now with Dainfern in Fourways (JHB).
FTTH: Fibre to the House (still long time though before we will offer this as a through value option to residential
Hugo
furnic
28-01-2010, 02:44 AM
LOGO
FTTH: Fibre to the House (still long time though before we will offer this as a through value option to residential
Hugo
gimme fibre to house
gimme fibre to house
PLEASE GIMME FIBRE TO HOUSE
I am just down the road from your Midrand offices, please send the team to dig a trench
PLEEEEEZ
let me be a home guinea pig for the fibre service, this wireless neoflex has more mood swings than my mother in law
fibre now!!!!!!
FTTH: Fibre to the House (still long time though before we will offer this as a through value option to residential
Hugo
gimme fibre to house
gimme fibre to house
PLEASE GIMME FIBRE TO HOUSE
I am just down the road from your Midrand offices, please send the team to dig a trench
PLEEEEEZ
let me be a home guinea pig for the fibre service, this wireless neoflex has more mood swings than my mother in law
fibre now!!!!!!
DaVirus
28-01-2010, 07:45 AM
Neotel better do something fast as I am seriously considering moving back to Telkom. Speeds have gone down and down and down and down in PTA.
In 2009 I could at least work from home once a week, now its almost impossible, because its sooooo slooooww.
In 2009 I could at least work from home once a week, now its almost impossible, because its sooooo slooooww.
gdiza
28-01-2010, 08:17 AM
Neotel can't even offer 1MB properly... so the conclusion is... "they will do nothing"
Reptilian
28-01-2010, 08:47 AM
Why would somebody want FTTH, when we can't even afford 3G?
first give us 30GB Neoflex for 699
first give us 30GB Neoflex for 699
0rk0
28-01-2010, 10:11 AM
Why would somebody want FTTH, when we can't even afford 3G?
first give us 30GB Neoflex for 699
Agreed and with a minimum of 150KB download speed and 100KB upload.
Then I'll be happy for another while, since Flex was suppose to be faster than Prime...;)
first give us 30GB Neoflex for 699
Agreed and with a minimum of 150KB download speed and 100KB upload.
Then I'll be happy for another while, since Flex was suppose to be faster than Prime...;)