Transfer News/Gossip [Archive] - Page 2

mercurial

10-06-2008, 12:34 PM

Ramsey wants Arsenal move

In-demand teenager Aaron Ramsey has told Cardiff City that he wants to join Arsenal.

Cardiff have accepted £5million bids from Arsenal and Premier League rivals Manchester United and Everton.

The winger has held talks with all three clubs and has now decided upon a move to Emirates Stadium, having flown out to Switzerland to meet Gunners boss Arsene Wenger.

A statement on Cardiff's official website read: "Cardiff City were informed on Friday morning that Aaron Ramsey's preferred destination this summer is at Emirates Stadium with Arsenal.

"We will now continue the dialogue with the Gunners with a view to Aaron's move being completed.

"The move unlike other options, however, does not include a loan back period at Ninian Park for the 2008/09 season."

Reports have claimed that Cardiff boss Dave Jones, and chairman Peter Ridsdale, were keen for Ramsey to join United as the Premier League champions were willing to agree a loan deal for next season.

However, Arsenal have put up the most persuasive argument for Ramsey and will now try to finalise a deal with Cardiff.

The 17-year-old has become one of the hottest properties in British football after a promising second half to last season, which culminated in a substitute's appearance in the FA Cup Final against Portsmouth.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3672303,00.html

Cantona keen on United job

Eric Cantona admits he would 'love' the opportunity to manage Manchester United in a few years' time.

The Frenchman established himself as a United legend during four-and-a-half years at Old Trafford in the 1990s.

He won four Premier League titles during his time with the Red Devils and was the catalyst behind the club's domestic domination.

Cantona retired in 1997 and has since taken up acting, but concedes he would enjoy the chance to replace Sir Alex Ferguson as United boss.

Exciting

"Today I do exciting things and I am proving many things," Cantona told Sky Sports News.

"Today I can enjoy it even more, but maybe in the future, in a few years' time when Ferguson retires, yeah, why not? I'd love to."

When asked if there were any other clubs he would be willing to manage, Cantona replied: "No, Manchester United...or the England national team."

Cantona was one of the first overseas players to make a major impact in the Premier League, but is concerned about the current foreign influence in the English game.

He added: "I think it's important to have a minimum of English or British players in the squad and to still work on the young players.

"For the national team, it's very bad.

"To have the best chance to win things, you must have as much as possible with English players to have a big choice and work hard on young players."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3672240,00.html

Sneeky_Sneeky

10-06-2008, 12:44 PM

I doubt Man U would be too keen on having a hot-blooded, French actor with **** for brains leading the team.

killadoob

10-06-2008, 01:03 PM

shyte for brains?

yes i suppose when your one of the best players ever for united you must be pretty stupid

i like cantona and i like his attitude

that fly kick was the best moment for me in soccer ever

that fan abused him everygame and got what he deserved, the fan is lucky that kick never landed 100%

Sneeky_Sneeky

10-06-2008, 01:14 PM

I really dont think he has the brain capacity to lead any team in a position of manager. There is no doubting his world class football abilities, but that fly-kick in itself was proof that he is not one of our great thinkers.

killadoob

10-06-2008, 01:19 PM

no sneeky that fly kick was months of that fan abusing him

going to every game and abusing him

i think after awhile i might freak out and fly kick if someone did that

if fine to protect fans but what protection do players get against abusive fans?

Sneeky_Sneeky

10-06-2008, 01:55 PM

Lets face it, it wasnt a smart move! But thats really off topic anyways. I dont believe he would be the right man for the job - do you?

Meisteral

10-06-2008, 03:43 PM

killadoob

10-06-2008, 03:48 PM

and doing a fine job

how he kept them up i dont know

hj2k_x

10-06-2008, 05:00 PM

I think Cantona would do all right but might lack the experience to take the United post, perhaps a 'smaller' team.
He's hot headed but then think of Roy Keane. He had his fair share of 'delibrate' run ins in the past but is Sunderland's manager presently.

I think he would be awesome to have back. And as for him not being smart - please! Come on man. He was one of the game's biggest thinkers - a real intelligent player on and off the field. Bring him back I say :)

hj2k_x

10-06-2008, 05:01 PM

I think he could well play down the left. Gerrard and Masch in the middle. Rafa likes his one paced 'solid(in other words can't beat a defender)' wide men :cool:

I guess that could work yes. For me he was always Aston Villa's Stevie G, and he wouldn't displace him :eek:

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 11:32 AM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3676231,00.html

Cesc wants Villa at Arsenal :eek:

Alan

11-06-2008, 11:52 AM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3676231,00.html

Cesc wants Villa at Arsenal :eek:

He'll come to Pool. When he scored he ignored everybody and embraced Torres only. They've got something special between them :D

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 11:53 AM

He'll come to Pool. When he scored he ignored everybody and embraced Torres only. They've got something special between them :D

LOL, we'll see about that :p

Alan

11-06-2008, 11:55 AM

LOL, we'll see about that :p

Villa, Torres and Gerrard :cool:

killadoob

11-06-2008, 11:57 AM

barry villa torres and gerrard

now u guys just need a decent winger :)

Alan

11-06-2008, 12:07 PM

barry villa torres and gerrard

now u guys just need a decent winger :)

Pity Rafa is allergic to decent wingers :o

killadoob

11-06-2008, 12:36 PM

if pennant can start for liverpool maybe he can something

seems decent enough if you ask me

Alan

11-06-2008, 12:40 PM

if pennant can start for liverpool maybe he can something

seems decent enough if you ask me

Decent doesn't win you the prem unfortunately but he's being linked with a move else where.

killadoob

11-06-2008, 01:11 PM

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:13 PM

yea but alan, liverpool dont win the league anyway and hardly ever play the guy

so liverpool dont know what winning the league is anymore because they leave okes like him on the bench

i would rather decent than nobody, i mean liverpool dont the league so why not just try him i say

I hope they challenge for the league next year. I say that every year but I mean 18 years of hurt must be a lot to deal with :o

And next year we equal Pool's beloved 18 TIMES as well :)

killadoob

11-06-2008, 01:17 PM

at some stage pool must come up with a premier league winning side

they have torres now

dont see why they cant win soon

doubt next season though

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:19 PM

at some stage pool must come up with a premier league winning side

they have torres now

dont see why they cant win soon

doubt next season though

I also doubt next season seeing as we are taking the treble again - with ronaldo or without ;)

Fuma

11-06-2008, 01:29 PM

at some stage pool must come up with a premier league winning side

they have torres now

dont see why they cant win soon

doubt next season though

Expecting pool to win the league is almost like expecting England to win the world cup. :D

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:31 PM

Expecting pool to win the league is almost like expecting England to win the world cup. :D

That is true :(

Poor old england. Our time will come!! :)

Alan

11-06-2008, 01:33 PM

I also doubt next season seeing as we are taking the treble again - with ronaldo or without ;)

You keep saying this but never have the balls to back it up with cash :p

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:36 PM

You keep saying this but never have the balls to back it up with cash :p

Well we keep coming so close that it just wouldn't be fair.

I mean last season we won the double and would have won the fa as well if it werent for that crazy pompey game.

The season before we won the league, lost the fa cup final and were 90 mins away from the final of the CL :D

Alan

11-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Life isn't fair. Back it up or shut it up damit

lol

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Life isn't fair. Back it up or shut it up damit

lol

LOL, I'll never take the 2nd option ;)

Alan

11-06-2008, 01:55 PM

:D
LOL, I'll never take the 2nd option ;)

Or the 1st seems ;)

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 01:56 PM

:D

Or the 1st seems ;)

Well they just aren't good options :p

Alan

11-06-2008, 03:50 PM

Djibril Cisse is being blackmailed by burglars who stole an intimate video of the Lord of the Manor of Frodsham.

The Marseille forward - currently being linked with a return to the Premier League - was asked for £120,000 and threatened with the video being released on the internet.

French newspaper Le Provence lhas described the video as containing 'very intimate and private personal images'.

He is said to have contacted the police as soon as the thieves made a phone call asking for the money.

According to the Liverpool Echo, Cisse was back in Merseyside last weekend for a tattoo convention but rushed back home to France to deal with detectives.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3677513,00.html

:sick:

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 03:54 PM

Just how private and personal are these images??

hj2k_x

11-06-2008, 10:10 PM

Just on Sky that Scolari has gone to coach Chelski...

killadoob

11-06-2008, 10:20 PM

freakin awesome man :)

cannot wait for next season now

the special one has nothing on scolari

Alan

12-06-2008, 09:31 AM

Riise looks set to make a £5m move (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,14018_3678178,00.html)

John-Arne Riise's move to Roma looks inevitable after boss Luciano Spalletti admitted the Norwegian could figure in his plans.

Riise looks set to make a £5m move to Serie A as Liverpool continue to revitalise their squad.

Spalletti said: "A player like Riise can give a different kind of dimension.

"Considering the challenges that await us in the coming season, Riise has the qualities that we are looking for.

"However, we have to look for other players as well and not make any mistakes in forming the new squad, such as losing the balance of the side

Good deal for Liverpool.

PaddyTM

12-06-2008, 09:45 AM

Pity about Riise; he had a shocker of a last season, but I was always a fan and he was a good servant to the club.

killadoob

12-06-2008, 10:34 AM

riise is a great player with a powerful shot

would not say he had a bad season, just never played much and made that silly error but still worth 5m i think

Meisteral

12-06-2008, 10:53 AM

Well there goes another backup winger option for Benitez. Riise had an fair season and is still a good player, best of luck to him.

hj2k_x

12-06-2008, 07:45 PM

Well there goes another backup winger option for Benitez. Riise had an fair season and is still a good player, best of luck to him.

He has been great for Pool over the years but I think the time is right for him to move on, for him and for Pool...

Alan

13-06-2008, 03:22 PM

Manchester United's considerable ire over Real Madrid's pursuit of Cristiano Ronaldo has been redirected against Luiz Felipe Scolari with Sir Alex Ferguson reportedly 'furious' that Scolari has advised the forward to quit Old Trafford.

Snubbed by Cardiff's Aaron Ramsey, unable to talk to his most important player, and now in jeopardy of losing his trusted assistant, Sir Alex Ferguson's holiday in the south of France cannot be a happy affair.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3684859,00.html

:D

hj2k_x

15-06-2008, 01:57 PM

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3684859,00.html

:D

And he is NOT a forward damnit!

In other news, Chelski are keen on David Villa for 30 million. Who saw that one coming :rolleyes:

nivek

15-06-2008, 02:11 PM

Wont happen.. cant see Villa wanting to goto Chelsea

11masoodt

15-06-2008, 02:28 PM

well well, lookie here, new chelsea manger scolari has stated that Fernando Torres will be his first signing when he comes to chelsea for a staggering 40mil
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=736997

killadoob

15-06-2008, 03:17 PM

yea there go liverpool selling off their best player for a silly 20m profit which you can easily make by getting to the quarters of the champs league

masoodt how can u have such a nice pc and not have water cooling :)

Alan

15-06-2008, 04:47 PM

I doubt Liverpool would sell him to Chelsea. Maybe another club based in a different country. Rafa would walk then IMO

hj2k_x

15-06-2008, 05:40 PM

I also don't think Torres would go. Liverpool would be crazy to let him go, but they have done crazy things in the past :o

Alan

15-06-2008, 05:47 PM

I also don't think Torres would go. Liverpool would be crazy to let him go, but they have done crazy things in the past :o

Like?

We sold Owen but he is permanently crocked

hj2k_x

15-06-2008, 05:51 PM

Like?

We sold Owen but he is permanently crocked

I guess the crazy things are more like the people you have bought :p

Alan

15-06-2008, 06:01 PM

I guess the crazy things are more like the people you have bought :p

Yes that's more like it *cough* Veron *cough*

hj2k_x

15-06-2008, 06:02 PM

Yes that's more like it *cough* Veron *cough*

I will forgive him only for the 5-3 game at Spurs, where we were 3-0 at HT and looked shocking. He had the best game ever in the 2nd half. So, I forgive him :)

Alan

15-06-2008, 06:08 PM

I will forgive him only for the 5-3 game at Spurs, where we were 3-0 at HT and looked shocking. He had the best game ever in the 2nd half. So, I forgive him :)

How many millions did he cost again? for half an hours work :o

hj2k_x

15-06-2008, 06:10 PM

How many millions did he cost again? for half an hours work :o

Hehehe, worth almost every penny :o

He was not great but he certainly was not one of United's or Liverpool's worst ever signings...Like Djemba Djemba or Kleberson, or Karel Poborsky or 'Jordi' Cruyff :sick:

killadoob

15-06-2008, 06:59 PM

if you guys think for one second that clubs always buy well, its just not the case

of course your going to buy dudds, its the nature of the game

11masoodt

15-06-2008, 07:47 PM

masoodt how can u have such a nice pc and not have water cooling :)

yah, thinking about it at the moment.

Alan

16-06-2008, 02:38 PM

INTER MAKE LAMPARD A PRIORITY (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3697958,00.html)

Internazionale president Massimo Moratti has highlighted the capture of Chelsea's Frank Lampard as his club's "number one" priority this summer.

Since the arrival of former Chelsea coach Jose Mourinho at the San Siro rumours have been rife that the Italian champions were set to make a bid for the Blues midfielder.

Earlier in the month Moratti insisted that the Portuguese boss was yet to decide who he wanted the club to sign, but on Monday the Nerazzurri president was clear in his intentions about England international Lampard.

"Lampard? We like him, and he's our number one objective," Moratti told Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport.

"Mourinho likes Lampard a lot. We all know that he's a great player."

Moratti also hinted negotiations with the Stamford Bridge outfit may have already started, adding: "Has there been contact with Chelsea? I think there has but I don't know yet."

Moratti was less forthcoming about other names being linked to the club. Barcelona's Deco, who was a key member of Mourinho's Porto side which won the Champions League in 2004, has also been linked with a move to Italy.

While Moratti admitted the Portugal playmaker was a player he liked, he suggested the competition would be fierce.

"Deco has the right characteristics to play for Inter, but we can't all have him," he said.

His tone turned more sarcastic still when asked about the possibility of bringing Portuguese wingers Ricardo Quaresma and Cristiano Ronaldo to Milan.

"Forty million euros to buy him (Quaresma)? That seems an absurd amount which we have no intention of paying," he continued.

"And Cristiano Ronaldo? Oh yeah, he's another one who won't cost us much!"

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 02:39 PM

At least they aren't coming after Ronaldo :)

Alan

16-06-2008, 02:45 PM

If Rafa has 20mill to spend which is what is rumored and he sells Alonso for 15mill, Riise for 5ill, Crouch for 8mill and Carson for 5 mill( my estimate) that would leave him with 53 mill to spend.

18 mill would go for Barry and 8mill for the Italian left back leaving 27mill to spend.

From that he'll need at least a winger and striker. Should be able to get at least one true quality player out of that situation

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 02:46 PM

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 05:36 PM

Robinho + 40m for Ronaldo. Don't make me laugh....http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3698261,00.html

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 06:20 PM

Robinho + 40m for Ronaldo. Don't make me laugh....http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3698261,00.html

nevvvver! that;s outrageous. it should be more like Robinho+Ramos+atleast 55-60million. IMO

stefan9

16-06-2008, 06:20 PM

At least they aren't coming after Ronaldo :)

Ronaldo is too expensive. While Frank is Jose's boy.:D

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 06:20 PM

nevvvver! that;s outrageous. it should be more like Robinho+Ramos+atleast 55-60million. IMO

At least. They can keep Robinho if you ask me. Pffft.

SuPaStA

16-06-2008, 06:23 PM

They wont trade Ramos and Robinho is a better player than any other player in the Man-u squad.

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 06:23 PM

They can still keep him.

nivek

16-06-2008, 06:27 PM

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=738738

Podolski linked with Arsenal :D

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 06:30 PM

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=738738

Podolski linked with Arsenal :D

Interesting. The Euro is always good for scouting new talent. Watch United sign the worst player there, like with Poborsky back in the days :(

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 06:40 PM

i want manutd to sign on Samir Nasri. i know it probably isn't possible but SAF still could try, or go Quaresma

nivek

16-06-2008, 06:46 PM

SAF is on holiday somewhere... Anyway you guys dont need any new signings!

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 06:48 PM

well, manutd have already signed one player form Roma, got some real talent. read it here.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BC7DF7CEC%2D3BC3%2D4859%2DA3 FD%2DFE4AAD215DD8%7D&newsid=6611657

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 06:50 PM

well, manutd have already signed one player form Roma, got some real talent. read it here.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BC7DF7CEC%2D3BC3%2D4859%2DA3 FD%2DFE4AAD215DD8%7D&newsid=6611657

Wow, he is young :eek:

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 06:56 PM

Wow, he is young :eek:

and bloody good. excellent signing SAF.

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 06:57 PM

check these other signings that he might do. Huntelaar is one of them, he's good:).

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BC2572DA3%2D8A1C%2D457F%2D99 26%2D899EA5639CB4%7D&newsid=523872

Kule

16-06-2008, 07:12 PM

They wont trade Ramos and Robinho is a better player than any other player in the Man-u squad.

Robinho is a better player than the entire United squad. Everybody except Ronaldo.

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 07:13 PM

check these other signings that he might do. Huntelaar is one of them, he's good:).

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BC2572DA3%2D8A1C%2D457F%2D99 26%2D899EA5639CB4%7D&newsid=523872

Indeed, I would take him for sure...

Still no more news on Berbatov though :(

11masoodt

16-06-2008, 07:17 PM

have a look here (http://news.google.com/news?q=dimitar+berbatov&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGFB_enZA271&um=1&hl=en&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title)

hj2k_x

16-06-2008, 07:20 PM

have a look here (http://news.google.com/news?q=dimitar+berbatov&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGFB_enZA271&um=1&hl=en&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title)

Hmmm, nothing concrete yet then.

*sigh

Meisteral

17-06-2008, 12:05 AM

Robinho is a better player than the entire United squad. Everybody except Ronaldo.

still they can keep him. He wouldn't survive the premier league.

Kule

17-06-2008, 01:07 AM

still they can keep him. He wouldn't survive the premier league.

Why wont he ''survive'' the premier league?

He was always a better player than Torres and it looks like Torres is doing more than surviving in the EPL.

11masoodt

17-06-2008, 08:24 PM

well this is interesting, inter have decided to join the race for the Cristiano Ronaldo. read more here (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=740102)

11masoodt

17-06-2008, 08:47 PM

i think manutd should sign on Silva from Valencia because they will have to sell him because they in a financial crisis. i think about 32mill should do 'cause inter are offering 30mill

*edit*

once they sell Ronaldo. he should just go.

stefan9

18-06-2008, 10:28 AM

well this is interesting, inter have decided to join the race for the Cristiano Ronaldo. read more here (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=740102)

No we haven't. Look at the source. That report comes from the spanish paper elmundo deportivo, which is a barcalona paper. The intent of this rumour is to upset the madrid fans.

There's no truth in this rumour.

hj2k_x

18-06-2008, 08:02 PM

City still confident of beating everyone to Ronaldinho for 200k a week!

nivek

18-06-2008, 09:10 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7462281.stm
Looks like the deal is done :) :) :)

hj2k_x

18-06-2008, 09:43 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7462281.stm
Looks like the deal is done :) :) :)

Now that is not a bad signing at all :eek:

mercurial

19-06-2008, 08:05 AM

Roma have completed the signing of Norway international John Arne Riise from Liverpool for £3.96million.

The Reds ace had been in Italy on Wednesday after being granted permission to hold transfer talks with the Serie A outfit.

The 27-year-old former Monaco man has now agreed a four-year contract with Luciano Spalletti's side and will join his new team-mates from July 1.

First choice

Riise had been first-choice at Anfield over previous years but fell out of favour under Rafa Benitez last season, leading to speculation of a possible move to Aston Villa or Newcastle.

However, it is Roma who have won the race to sign the experienced international, who has won over 70 caps for his country.

"Roma announce they have reached an agreement with Liverpool for the acquisition of the sporting rights of the player John Arne Riise with effect from July 1 2008," read a statement on the club's official website.

Liverpool splashed out £4.6million for Riise way back in 2001. He went on to make nearly 350 appearances for the Merseysiders.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3707803,00.html

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 10:44 AM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3707803,00.html

That's not a lot of cash for quite a decent player. I guess it is the right thing for him considering the fact that he wasn't getting first-team footy any more.

mercurial

19-06-2008, 10:51 AM

That's not a lot of cash for quite a decent player. I guess it is the right thing for him considering the fact that he wasn't getting first-team footy any more.

Yip. Rafa is an idiot. He lets all his good players go, except for Torres of course and he also hardly plays some of the better players like Crouch and Riise.

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 10:52 AM

Yip. Rafa is an idiot. He lets all his good players go, except for Torres of course.

And buys a load of crap ones to replace them :o

mercurial

19-06-2008, 10:58 AM

And buys a load of crap ones to replace them :o

And then they wonder why they can't win anything :rolleyes:

OT: Did you get that softtouch keyboard yet?

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 11:05 AM

And then they wonder why they can't win anything :rolleyes:

OT: Did you get that softtouch keyboard yet?

OT- well I got an nice wireless mouse which is awesome and I am back on my old keyboard which is kinda softtouch so I am happy with it :)

mercurial

19-06-2008, 11:11 AM

OT- well I got an nice wireless mouse which is awesome and I am back on my old keyboard which is kinda softtouch so I am happy with it :)

Cool :)

Alan

19-06-2008, 01:47 PM

BAYERN CLOSE IN ON GOMEZ (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3709731,00.html)

Stuttgart value the striker at 25 million euros, but Bayern are believed to be considering using his Germany team-mate Lukas Podolski as a makeweight for the deal.

Podolski, who has shone with three goals at Euro 2008 so far, made just eight starts for Bayern last season and has already admitted he would consider a transfer.

Gomez was the Bundesliga's top goalscorer in the 2006/07 season as Stuttgart won the title, but a succession of injuries restricted him to 25 appearances last term.

He still scored 19 goals, however, to show a goalscoring ability which has so far been lacking at the European Championships.

He missed a sitter against Austria and the uncertainty surrounding his future is said to be affecting his performances.

Strange world

killadoob

19-06-2008, 01:54 PM

well in all honesty that miss against austria seems like amiss but when you see the reply it just bobbles which would have put him off

he does not like a 25m pound player to me for germany anyhow

Alan

19-06-2008, 02:00 PM

well in all honesty that miss against austria seems like amiss but when you see the reply it just bobbles which would have put him off

he does not like a 25m pound player to me for germany anyhow

Still should have scored. Doesn't look convincing in front of goal that's for sure. Maybe his confidence is shot for some reason. Or he could just be one of those players who struggle in the international game but excels with his club.

killadoob

19-06-2008, 02:03 PM

yea he looks terrible for germany

the problem is germany don't have anyone else

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 06:13 PM

BAYERN CLOSE IN ON GOMEZ (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3709731,00.html)

Strange world

Podolski for Gomez?! Wow, that is strange indeed!!

nivek

19-06-2008, 06:25 PM

http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=507299

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 06:26 PM

http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=507299

Well said :)

SuPaStA

19-06-2008, 06:35 PM

Madrid have done nothing wrong, its Ronaldo who wants to go.
Man-u fans/manager need to look at the source of the issue not blame a club because they cant keep their own players.

hj2k_x

19-06-2008, 06:42 PM

yea he looks terrible for germany

the problem is germany don't have anyone else

Watch him score a hattrick tonight :( :o

stefan9

19-06-2008, 08:28 PM

Podolski for Gomez?! Wow, that is strange indeed!!

What's so strange about it?? Podolski doesn't perform at club level. He performs great for Germany but sucks most of the time he plays for bayern. that's why he is a bench player there.

Alan

20-06-2008, 12:08 PM

LIVERPOOL NEED TO SELL TO BUY SILVA (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_3713667,00.html)

What's this? Rafa Benitez not chasing a distinctly average Premier League winger? According to The Guardian, Rafa is very keen indeed on Valencia winger David Silva, though it's fair to say that the £20m price tag could prove a massive stumbling block when he's only got thruppence to spend.

The answer? According to The Guardian, they need to sell off Xabi Alonso, Peter Crouch, Scott Carson and Jermaine Pennant in order to be able to afford Silva, Gareth Barry and Andrea Dossena.

I hope this is true. Rafa wants to sign a quality winger :eek:. Whether or not Silva can cut it in the Prem is another question though

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 12:16 PM

LIVERPOOL NEED TO SELL TO BUY SILVA (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_3713667,00.html)

I hope this is true. Rafa wants to sign a quality winger :eek:. Whether or not Silva can cut it in the Prem is another question though

Torres was a average player in la liga, now his one of the best in EPL.Silva wont have any problem playing in the epl.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 12:22 PM

Manchester United have confirmed Cristiano Ronaldo is 'not for sale' despite comments from the player that he is considering his future at the club.

The winger, on the losing side as Portugal were knocked out of Euro 2008 on Friday night, has said he will make an announcement in the next two days after persistent reports linking him with Real Madrid.

But a statement from United said: 'Further to Friday's press speculation about where Cristiano Ronaldo's future lies, the club has moved to reiterate its stance on the matter: United are not listening to offers.

'The club reaffirmed to ManUtd.com on Friday morning that the 23-year-old United star is 'not for sale'.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=549335&cc=5901

mercurial

20-06-2008, 12:26 PM

Torres was a average player in la liga, now his one of the best in EPL.Silva wont have any problem playing in the epl.

Average? Ha. Hardly. Shevchenko was also hailed one of the best strikers in the world and look how hopeless he was. The EPL is not for everyone. Some players take very long to adapt to the English game.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 12:30 PM

Average? Ha. Hardly. Shevchenko was also hailed one of the best strikers in the world and look how hopeless he was. The EPL is not for everyone. Some players take very long to adapt to the English game.

Do you even watch La liga, dont comment on things you dont know about.
There were far better strikers when he was in la liga, in his last season at madrid he scored 15 goals from 40 apps.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 12:32 PM

Do you even watch La liga, dont comment on things you dont know about.
There were far better strikers when he was in la liga, in his last season at madrid he scored 15 goals from 40 apps.

How can you say he was average when Man Utd, Liverpool and other clubs were after him? :rolleyes:

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 12:36 PM

How can you say he was average when Man Utd, Liverpool and other clubs were after him? :rolleyes:
Because I watch La liga year in/out and his stats dont lie.

How many average players have big clubs bought, go look at nani for example, the fact they wanted to purchase him means nothing.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 01:18 PM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=549335&cc=5901

Sounds good to me :)

mercurial

20-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Because I watch La liga year in/out and his stats dont lie.

How many average players have big clubs bought, go look at nani for example, the fact they wanted to purchase him means nothing.

Lol how can you compare Nani to Torres? LOL. Nani is nowhere near the class of Torres. Come on dude :rolleyes:

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 01:43 PM

Lol how can you compare Nani to Torres? LOL. Nani is nowhere near the class of Torres. Come on dude :rolleyes:

Exactly.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 01:50 PM

Lol how can you compare Nani to Torres? LOL. Nani is nowhere near the class of Torres. Come on dude :rolleyes:
Why does everything need to be spoon fed on this forum.

Im not comparing their skill I'm comparing the fact teams purchase average players, the same way liverpool purchased a average La liga player.

So the eariler point about Torres not being average because manchester wanted him, means nothing.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Why does everything need to be spoon fed on this forum.

Im not comparing their skill I'm comparing the fact teams purchase average players, the same way liverpool purchased a average La liga player.

So the eariler point about Torres not being average because manchester wanted him, means nothing.

Again, Torres is and never was an average player :rolleyes:
There are many clubs that wanted and still want him. It's that simple.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 01:53 PM

Average? Ha. Hardly. Shevchenko was also hailed one of the best strikers in the world and look how hopeless he was. The EPL is not for everyone. Some players take very long to adapt to the English game.

Indeed, he was really bad when he came to England. Crespo also failed at Chelsea and Morientes at Pool. The list goes on...

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 01:54 PM

Again, Torres is and never was an average player :rolleyes:
There are many clubs that wanted and still want him. It's that simple.

You have never watched a la liga match, his stats show his only scored maximum of 15 goals in a season.So how can you argue with me, when I have watched the guy for years.

He was average and you never heard of him before he came to liverpool as you clearly show in your posts.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 01:56 PM

You have never watched a la liga match, his stats show his only scored maximum of 15 goals in a season.So how can you argue with me, when I have watched the guy for years.

He was average and you never heard of him before he came to liverpool as you clearly show in your posts.

Please go back to your own thread. This is really tiresome and the reason why I made a new thread. Do you have no one to talk to in there now that Kule has been banned?

mercurial

20-06-2008, 01:57 PM

Indeed, he was really bad when he came to England. Crespo also failed at Chelsea and Morientes at Pool. The list goes on...

I was watching the goals of the season last night. Damn that Torres is good. No wonder Chelsea still want to buy him. I would want him in our team as well.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Please go back to your own thread. This is really tiresome and the reason why I made a new thread. Do you have no one to talk to in there now that Kule has been banned?

My apologies for actually knowing what I'm talking about when I make a post regarding football.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 01:59 PM

You have never watched a la liga match, his stats show his only scored maximum of 15 goals in a season.So how can you argue with me, when I have watched the guy for years.

He was average and you never heard of him before he came to liverpool as you clearly show in your posts.

Nonsense. I've known about him for years now. Ya he might have had a slightly off season that season so that does not make him average.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 01:59 PM

I was watching the goals of the season last night. Damn that Torres is good. No wonder Chelsea still want to buy him. I would want him in our team as well.

I would take him as well. :)

Still no big transfer news from the United camp thus far. If Ronaldo does stay then we will only need a few players to make our squad stronger. Like a striker and maybe a defender or two...

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:00 PM

Nonsense. I've known about him for years now. Ya he might have had a slightly off season that season so that does not make him average.

For me, Torres was already a big hit at WC2006 which is when United showed interest in him in the 1st place...

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:02 PM

For me, Torres was already a big hit at WC2006 which is when United showed interest in him in the 1st place...

That's exactly when I first heard and saw him :) and that time already they were talking about how talented he is. Anyone else suggesting otherwise is making a huge error in judgement.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:03 PM

For me, Torres was already a big hit at WC2006 which is when United showed interest in him in the 1st place...

lol he played for 5 years before that tournament, all average performance in relation to the other talent in la liga.

I spend a lot of time in spain, nobody in the country thinks he was amazing.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:03 PM

That's exactly when I first heard and saw him :) and that time already they were talking about how talented he is. Anyone else suggesting otherwise is making a huge error in judgement.

There are a whole lot of players that United show an interest in and then end up going somewhere else :(

Hope we strengthen this year before all the best players are snatched up..

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:04 PM

There are a whole lot of players that United show an interest in and then end up going somewhere else :(

Hope we strengthen this year before all the best players are snatched up..

Me too.

lol he played for 5 years before that tournament, all average performance in relation to the other talent in la liga.

I spend a lot of time in spain, nobody in the country thinks he was amazing.

Well they're wrong. No one can deny that he is a great player.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:04 PM

lol he played for 5 years before that tournament, all average performance in relation to the other talent in la liga.

I spend a lot of time in spain, nobody in the country thinks he was amazing.

So what? I am not sure your argument has a point.

Either way, he is a great player now and any side, La Liga or otherwise would be glad to have him in their starting lineup.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:07 PM

So what? I am not sure your argument has a point.

Either way, he is a great player now and any side, La Liga or otherwise would be glad to have him in their starting lineup.

Go read the rest of the thread!

Torres was a average player in la liga, now his one of the best in EPL.Silva wont have any problem playing in the epl.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:07 PM

Go read the rest of the thread!

Nope.

Enjoy talking to yourself.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Nope.

Enjoy talking to yourself.

lol is that the best comeback you have after I pointed out you have no idea why we talking about torres.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:13 PM

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:14 PM

lol is that the best comeback you have after I pointed out you have no idea why we talking about torres.

Shame man, I'll keep talking to you...

I know what you are talking about and have answered what can only loosely be termed your 'arguments' with valid counter-arguments.

Can we not move on to something else? Like actual transfer gossip?

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:17 PM

How can you say that just because Torres didn't have a tough time adapting, that other players also won't? No two players are the same. Allow me to remind you of Shevchenko(world's best striker...came to England and turned out to be totally hopeless).

Shevchenko in general has been hopeless club and country, dont think it has anything to do with the EPL.He had his best years before joining chelsea and was a forced purchase for them.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:18 PM

Shevchenko in general has been hopeless club and country, dont think it has anything to do with the EPL.He had his best years before joining chelsea and was a forced purchase for them.

That is not how I remember it at all. He was one of the best strikers in Europe when they bought him - otherwise why would they buy him in the 1st place?

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:24 PM

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:24 PM

That is not how I remember it at all. He was one of the best strikers in Europe when they bought him - otherwise why would they buy him in the 1st place?

No abramovich told mourinho he must purchase him, mourinho never wanted him in the team.

apperntly abramovich's ex-wife and Shevchenko's wife are good friends from back home in Russia that was linked as a reason he wanted to purchase him.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:26 PM

No abramovich told mourinho he must purchase him, mourinho never wanted him in the team.

apperntly abramovich's ex-wife and Shevchenko's wife are good friends from back home in Russia that was linked as a reason he wanted to purchase him.

I remember something about that as well but it does not change the fact that he was a top striker at the time and failed hopelessly in the EPL, just like Crespo.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:26 PM

ROFL you have got to be kidding me!
Go look at his stats in general after joining Chelsea, club performance and country performance dropped around the same time.
He was an amazing player but I think his best years had past before he joined Chelsea.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:27 PM

No abramovich told mourinho he must purchase him, mourinho never wanted him in the team.

apperntly abramovich's ex-wife and Shevchenko's wife are good friends from back home in Russia that was linked as a reason he wanted to purchase him.

So because Mourinho didn't want him, he was a bad player? :rolleyes:

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:28 PM

So because Mourinho didn't want him, he was a bad player? :rolleyes:

Ya what does Mourinho know.

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:28 PM

Go look at his stats in general after joining Chelsea, club performance and country performance dropped around the same time.

Ya that's kinda the point that myself and HenryJ are already making. He was hopeless when he came to Chelsea, not before.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:29 PM

Ya that's kinda the point that myself and HenryJ are already making. He was hopeless when he came to Chelsea, not before.

Ya :o

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:32 PM

MANYOO TO PLAY HARDBALL WITH RONALDO
Posted 20/06/08 12:15

Manchester United have signalled their determination to retain Cristiano Ronaldo, even if the player formally requests a transfer, by repeating that the forward is not for sale.

Ronaldo is under contract and persuading United to let him leave, even if Real Madrid offer a world-record fee, will be far from straightforward. There is genuine anger at Old Trafford over the saga, and if Ronaldo believed that his broad hint on Thursday night that he would like to move to Madrid would cause United to buckle then he is surely mistaken.

The club have strenuously denied that they would countenance his sale and issued another terse statement this morning that read: "Further to Friday's press speculation about where Cristiano Ronaldo's future lies, the club has moved to reiterate its stance on the matter: United are not listening to offers. The club reaffirmed to ManUtd.com on Friday morning that the 23-year-old United star is 'not for sale'."

Ronaldo will leave Switzerland today to embark on a three-week holiday during which time he will hope that his transfer to Real Madrid is finalised. But any such expectation will surely prove unrealistic, with United set to demand that he reports for pre-season training at the end of July.

With Ronaldo reportedly telling friends that he is willing to do "whatever it takes" to leave the club, it will be fascinating to see how that determination manifests itself. One option would be for the player to go on strike, a stance that would inevitably result in United ceasing to pay his wages. Sir Alex Ferguson, still yet to comment publicly on Ronaldo's future since the start of Euro 2008, has claimed that the Glazer family which owns the club is so resistant to the notion of selling their prized asset that they would prefer to see him "rot".

Not this again? :(

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:33 PM

Ya that's kinda the point that myself and HenryJ are already making. He was hopeless when he came to Chelsea, not before.

no had nothing to do with the EPL, as he was playing crap for his country as well when he moved.

What does that tell you?? His performance in general be it country/club started being poor.Its not related to the EPL.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:35 PM

What does that tell you?? His performance in general be it country/club started being poor..
...as soon as he moved.

Yes, we agree.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 02:38 PM

...as soon as he moved.

Yes, we agree.

Ya has nothing to do with not being able to adjust to the EPL.The guy was already on the way down, hence mourninho never wanted him.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:40 PM

Ya has nothing to do with not being able to adjust to the EPL.The guy was already on the way down, hence mourninho never wanted him.

Except that when he moved he was one of the best strikers in Europe...

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:43 PM

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 02:45 PM

Lol OMG, I give up. It's mind-boggling how someone can suggest that Shevchenko was not his best when Chelsea bought him.

PS: Why do they keep referring to Ronaldo as a forward? :mad:
I don't see the point in keeping him if he doesn't want to be there. Let him go already.
Go read this on the Chelsea site (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/ThePlayers/0,,10268~28074,00.html). They specifically say that he was bought in the prime of his career. But hey, you know better :rolleyes:

Indeed. I am over this discussion as well.

As for Ronaldo. He is NOT a striker. People who don't understand football assume he is because he scores a lot of goals :o I wonder if John Terry started scoring 20 goals a season from penalties and set-pieces whether he would then be a striker as well :rolleyes: :o

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:46 PM

And this on the BBC site: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5035604.stm)

"Chelsea manager Mourinho said: "Today is a day when the dream became reality. Andriy has always been my first choice for Chelsea since I arrived."

"I did not need to meet with him to convince him about Chelsea, in the same way we did not need to talk a lot about why I wanted him. Everybody knows him as a player, tactically he can play in the Chelsea system no doubt."

"Milan is a big club, a great club, but for him to leave Milan for Chelsea is a big statement about where Chelsea is."

"He is a champion and he is joining a team of champions. I have already spoken to some of our players and they are looking forward to playing with him. Great players want to play with other great players."

Chief Executive Peter Kenyon added: "The deal is a new club transfer record and is a straight cash deal. We are delighted to have signed one of Europe's greatest goalscorers."

But don't worry folks, supasta knows better ;)

mercurial

20-06-2008, 02:48 PM

Indeed. I am over this discussion as well.

As for Ronaldo. He is NOT a striker. People who don't understand football assume he is because he scores a lot of goals :o I wonder if John Terry started scoring 20 goals a season from penalties and set-pieces whether he would then be a striker as well :rolleyes: :o

Lol.

stefan9

20-06-2008, 03:20 PM

Lol OMG, I give up. It's mind-boggling how someone can suggest that Shevchenko was not his best when Chelsea bought him.

PS: Why do they keep referring to Ronaldo as a forward? :mad:
I don't see the point in keeping him if he doesn't want to be there. Let him go already.
Go read this on the Chelsea site (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/ThePlayers/0,,10268~28074,00.html). They specifically say that he was bought in the prime of his career. But hey, you know better :rolleyes:

Because he is a forward not a striker or centre forward but a wing forward.

If you look at the portugal national team then you will see they play 4-3-3 with simao and ronaldo as two wing forward and nuno gomes as the centre forward of the 3.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 03:27 PM

@mercurial
IF you actually knew footbal you would understand that his played in an attacking position, hence he scores a lot of goals

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 03:27 PM

Because he is a forward not a striker or centre forward but a wing forward.

If you look at the portugal national team then you will see they play 4-3-3 with simao and ronaldo as two wing forward and nuno gomes as the centre forward of the 3.

Wing-forward? Not the same as a striker I am afraid.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 03:28 PM

@mercurial
IF you actually knew footbal you would understand that his played in an attacking position, hence he scores a lot of goals

At whom is this directed?

mercurial

20-06-2008, 03:29 PM

@mercurial
IF you actually knew footbal you would understand that his played in an attacking position, hence he scores a lot of goals

:rolleyes: Yes uber-one, wingers are a very attacking position :rolleyes:
Geez some people are jealous.

SuPaStA

20-06-2008, 03:31 PM

And this on the BBC site: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5035604.stm)

But don't worry folks, supasta knows better ;)

You never even heard of him before he joined Chelsea, go look at his stats.
HE stopped playing well at his club and here is the main thing "AND HIS COUNTRY"

so what does that tell you....his performance drop has nothing to do with Chelsea/EPL!

And yes I know better than you thats being proven many a time.

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 03:32 PM

You never even heard of him before he joined Chelsea, go look at his stats.
HE stopped playing well at his club and here is the main thing "AND HIS COUNTRY"

so what does that tell you....his performance drop has nothing to do with Chelsea/EPL!

And yes I know better than you thats being proven many a time.

LOL @ never having heard of him before he joined Chelsea. :rolleyes:

mercurial

20-06-2008, 03:37 PM

Oh my Lord! FFS do people purposely try to act retarded or are their egos so so big that they cannot admit defeat and then they go on rambling about nonsense to avoid defeat? Ronaldo is a winger. End of story. Don't player-hate. 2ndly, you were totally pwned about Shevchenko, so please don't try your BS. He was a great player before joining Chelsea and became worse upon joining. Only you seem to think otherwise. The rest of the world must be idiots then :rolleyes: Don't worry folks, supasta knows best ;)

killadoob

20-06-2008, 04:02 PM

yup shevo was great

chelsea his form dropped, the reason it dropped and one of the main reasons abrom and jose stopped being friends is because abrom wanted sheva and jose never did

so chelsea never destroyed his form, mourinho did

abrom wanted him badly and mourinho was not happy with the signing, from there the relationship of the 2 went for a ball of rubbish

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 04:41 PM

Remember when Beckham left, or RVN? There was none of this debate and will-he won't-he. Ronaldo needs to get over himself asap - everyone can be replaced!

Alan

20-06-2008, 04:42 PM

Remember when Beckham left, or RVN? There was none of this debate and will-he won't-he. Ronaldo needs to get over himself asap - everyone can be replaced!

or Manure should accept they're a selling club:o

hj2k_x

20-06-2008, 04:44 PM

or Manure should accept they're a selling club:o

Nope, that's not it silly! :)

Alan

20-06-2008, 04:46 PM

Nope, that's not it silly! :)

That's exactly it. :p

hj2k_x

21-06-2008, 06:10 PM

Check the front page of Soccernet:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/?&cc=3888&redirect=false

:o

killadoob

21-06-2008, 06:13 PM

i can tell you now, if madrid offered 100m to liverpool for gerrard he would be gone the next day alan :)

im also tired of this ronaldo thing

sell him and count the 80m you made on one player :)

nobody says ronaldo will do well next season anyhow

hj2k_x

21-06-2008, 06:15 PM

i can tell you now, if madrid offered 100m to liverpool for gerrard he would be gone the next day alan :)

Like when he naerly left to Chelski. More money and he'd've been out of there.

killadoob

21-06-2008, 07:21 PM

actually from what i remember the death threats kept him at liverpool

Fern9do

21-06-2008, 07:26 PM

yes that makes sense...if death threats were taken seriously hicks and gillet whould have been long gone by now.

killadoob

21-06-2008, 07:30 PM

may not make sense but i remember that was talked about and then he didnt leave

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 10:03 AM

may not make sense but i remember that was talked about and then he didnt leave

Oh ya, I remember that as well :o

Fern9do

22-06-2008, 10:30 AM

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 10:32 AM

At least gerrard did not behave like a ****. I dont know why fergie would still want Ronaldo after everything he's said in the media over the last couple of days.
That girls ego is way too big if you asked me.

I have to second that. I am hating him now as much as when he got Rooney sent off in the WC. He needs to sort himself out asap!

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 10:55 AM

Sky is saying that Ronaldo has already signed with Real for 300k a week and all that is stopping it going through is Fergie....:eek:

Alan

22-06-2008, 11:16 AM

Sky is saying that Ronaldo has already signed with Real for 300k a week and all that is stopping it going through is Fergie....:eek:

So sad

:D

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 11:17 AM

So sad

:D

300k a week is madness. Real reckon they can get back 20million on selling shirts alone.

killadoob

22-06-2008, 11:53 AM

henry real madrid reckon signing ronaldo will bring in half a billion euro's

ronaldo is like beckham man, they not just buying him for his ability

they can make a truck load of money on other stuff, fergie does not want him to leave because of his ability

i say let the oke go and lets move on already, tired of this ronaldo thing now

.geek

22-06-2008, 01:17 PM

300k a week is madness. Real reckon they can get back 20million on selling shirts alone.

ROFL. :D That's classic.

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 01:30 PM

ubercal

22-06-2008, 01:42 PM

United must sell Ronaldo and bring in Ricardo Quaresma from porto.I rate this guy has just as much talent as ronaldo.PLus he will only cost around 15 million

hj2k_x

22-06-2008, 01:43 PM

United must sell Ronaldo and bring in Ricardo Quaresma from porto.I rate this guy has just as much talent as ronaldo.PLus he will only cost around 15 million

And then we'd still have enough cash left over to buy some Russians and Berbatov :)

stefan9

22-06-2008, 06:24 PM

United must sell Ronaldo and bring in Ricardo Quaresma from porto.I rate this guy has just as much talent as ronaldo.PLus he will only cost around 15 million

No he won't. Release clause is 40 million euros and porto aren't selling for less. You would also have to compete with Inter and chelsea for him since both clubs want him.

hj2k_x

23-06-2008, 10:28 AM

No he won't. Release clause is 40 million euros and porto aren't selling for less. You would also have to compete with Inter and chelsea for him since both clubs want him.

So we'll just get some Russians and Berbatov then :cool:

nivek

23-06-2008, 06:29 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7462281.stm
Nasri deal done :)

pos(t)er

23-06-2008, 07:25 PM

quaresmo-don't know why he's at the club he is, the man is a god!

killadoob

23-06-2008, 07:49 PM

nivek man i hope for your sake that he is because i fear for arsenal even more than i did last season

hj2k_x

24-06-2008, 04:29 PM

nivek man i hope for your sake that he is because i fear for arsenal even more than i did last season

You fear for them as in they are not going to do very well?

killadoob

24-06-2008, 04:48 PM

yebo :)

hj2k_x

24-06-2008, 04:53 PM

yebo :)

Indeed, they need to buy and buy big otherwise the same thing as this season and last will happen again. Which is fine by me ;)

killadoob

24-06-2008, 05:27 PM

no but henry this season they wont get the start they did last season

last season they had good players who might perform and they

if they sell adebayor i would be very worried indeed

hj2k_x

24-06-2008, 05:31 PM

no but henry this season they wont get the start they did last season

last season they had good players who might perform and they

if they sell adebayor i would be very worried indeed

Indeed, which means they will not make top4...They need to buy and hold on to Adebayor and Fabregas IMO.

mercurial

25-06-2008, 08:00 AM

La Liga champions play down talks of world record offer

Ramon Calderon has denied Real Madrid will break the bank to secure Cristiano Ronaldo's services from Manchester United this summer.

A world record fee has been touted for the Portugal international should The Red Devils surprisingly grant his release from his long-term contract at Old Trafford.

Real currently hold the world record for the highest transfer fee paid when they splashed out £46million on Juventus' Zinedine Zidane in 2001.

It had been suggested Real could be willing to pay up to 100million euros (£80million) for Ronaldo after coach Bernd Schuster urged the club to "pay what is necessary" to seal the deal.

Never pay

However, Calderon insists the Spanish giants will never pay £80million to bring a player to Santiago Bernabeu.

"There is no 'Cristiano Ronaldo case' because Manchester do not want to sell," he told Marca.

"In any case, Real Madrid will never pay 100million euros for anybody."

Meanwhile, Ronaldo's fellow Portuguese team-mate Nani has urged his compatriot to stay at Old Trafford and resist the lure of Madrid.

"Of course I want him to stay," stated Nani. "When I arrived he was a great support."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3730046,00.html

Alan

25-06-2008, 08:46 AM

Real are really pushing this game of theirs to far IMO

killadoob

25-06-2008, 09:16 AM

i dont know what be worse a club baying 80m for player and paying him 300k a week or united selling him :)

i think a club paying a player 300k a week

hj2k_x

25-06-2008, 10:38 AM

Real are really pushing this game of theirs to far IMO

Yeah, just buy him already! Sheesh.

Alan

25-06-2008, 10:44 AM

Yeah, just buy him already! Sheesh.

Must say I'm enjoying the whole Man U suffering part of this saga if I'm honest

killadoob

25-06-2008, 10:53 AM

there is no suffering

its not getting to the point annoying me

sell him or dont, im sick of this story

hj2k_x

25-06-2008, 10:53 AM

there is no suffering

its not getting to the point annoying me

sell him or dont, im sick of this story

I am also not suffering. Just bored of it all. Sell the guy and use the cash to buy new people or decide that he is gonna stay and move on. Krikey. He is not bigger than the team.

Alan

25-06-2008, 10:55 AM

Pretty boy is leaving. I don't believe you're not suffering :p

hj2k_x

25-06-2008, 10:56 AM

Pretty boy is leaving. I don't believe you're not suffering :p

100 million in his place is not going to hurt. And we don't want a player who doesn't really want to be here anyway.

Watch him go to Real and have a crap season anyway :D

killadoob

25-06-2008, 11:34 AM

alan ronaldo is good but still wont make it in my top 3 united players of all time

maybe not even my top 5 :)

i was more upset when they sold beckham

Alan

25-06-2008, 11:37 AM

i was more upset when they sold beckham

Not as pretty?

:p:D

killadoob

25-06-2008, 11:40 AM

hj2k_x

25-06-2008, 11:57 AM

beckham is hotter than ronaldo by a mile man

im a guy but i can tell beckham is more than likely one of the best looking okes on the planet

chizzled jaw, body most men would die for :)

/inserts gayness

Hehehehe, that is funny man. Wait for a certain mature forumite we know and love to make that his sig for a while ;)

Alan

26-06-2008, 09:17 AM

ARE ARESNAL CHASING CROUCH? (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3738427,00.html)

'Super agent' Vincenzo Morabito claims Arsenal are considering Peter Crouch as a possible replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor.

"The names being talked about are Peter Crouch, Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz and Germany forward Mario Gomez.

killadoob

26-06-2008, 09:21 AM

omw not gomez, that oke is no good if you ask me

crouch i highly rate him

good in the air can score with both feet, very good player given the chance

mercurial

26-06-2008, 09:26 AM

Manchester United assistant manager Carlos Queiroz has urged Cristiano Ronaldo to remain at Old Trafford because of the 'affection' the club has for the talented winger.

Ronaldo's future at United remains up in the air with speculation still rife over a possible move to Real Madrid, although the Spanish club's president Ramon Calderon claimed on Monday he would not break the bank to sign the player.

Calderon also admitted there was little his club could do if United did not want to sell the 23-year-old, and Queiroz believes the best place for Ronaldo to ply his trade in the future remains Manchester.

'Manchester United is very special,' Queiroz told Portuguese radio station Renascenca. 'Because of that we know how to surround Cristiano completely with all the affection and all the attention he deserves.

'However, not speaking is the most sensible course of action at this moment, so that we don't contribute to a less than positive spectacle and so we don't aid those whose interests are difficult to identify.'

Queiroz is something of a father figure to Ronaldo at United and was instrumental in keeping the player at Old Trafford in 2006 following his role in Wayne Rooney's dismissal in that year's World Cup quarter-final between Portugal and England.

Whether or not Ronaldo sticks or twists could depend on the future of Queiroz, who has been linked with the Portugal coaching post vacated by Luiz Felipe Scolari.

'I'm not going to put myself in the market,' Queiroz continued. 'Because the decision on the national coach should not be a result of those who make themselves candidates, but a decision that is conscious, rational and based on what the Federation judges [believe] is necessary for the team.

'I'm not going to tell you whether or not I'm contacted, that way I know for sure that it will be dealt with in due form and in due place.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=550650&cc=5901

mercurial

26-06-2008, 10:27 AM

Man U and Real to face off in July

The warring boards of Manchester United and Real Madrid will come face-to-face shortly when the European Club Association (ECA) meets in Nyon, Switzerland, on July 7 - the day that Real have said they hope to unveil the 23-year-old Portuguese winger as a Madrid player. "United chief executive David Gill and Real president Ramon Calderon are expected to attend the first meeting of the body that replaces the G14 organisation, which has traditionally represented Europe’s superclubs," writes Ian Ladyman in the Daily Mail. "Last night the president-elect of the new ECA, Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, was critical of Real’s pursuit of Ronaldo. He said: ‘I’m not worried about the case because the rules are clear and United have a very strong contract with the player for the next four years.'" (Daily Mail)

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/sportspages,1101,the-best-of-todays-sports-coverage

SuPaStA

26-06-2008, 01:38 PM

omw not gomez, that oke is no good if you ask me

crouch i highly rate him

good in the air can score with both feet, very good player given the chance

Crouch has 5 goals out of 17 apps this year, last year was 9 from 31 games!
Dont know why his in the national side...Dont like when liverpool/eng play with him as they play the long ball into the box to try and get it on his head.

Highly over-rated player which should just be sold to whoever wants him.Liverpool though are overpricing him and should just sell him

mercurial

26-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Perhaps he is overrated, but the numbers are not truly representing him. You seem to always focus on the numbers but ignore the players abilities and potential. I've seen the guy play and let me tell you, he is a good striker, but how can anyone expect miracles from him when he hardly ever gets a game. Whenever I see him, he is brought on in the last 10 minutes or so. I know for a fact that if he had to play more often, he would develop into something much better. Torres could be feeding off him with ease.

Alan

26-06-2008, 02:28 PM

Crouch has 5 goals out of 17 apps this year, last year was 9 from 31 games!
Dont know why his in the national side...Dont like when liverpool/eng play with him as they play the long ball into the box to try and get it on his head.

Highly over-rated player which should just be sold to whoever wants him.Liverpool though are overpricing him and should just sell him

He was second top scorer in the CL and Liverpool's top scorer the season before last. Last season he had 5 goals in 9 Prem starts. Most of his sub appearances were for the last 5 minutes of games.:rolleyes:

SuPaStA

26-06-2008, 02:44 PM

The guy has played 918 minutes in the EPL and all he could get was 5 goals thats pathetic.

Season before last he was 9 goals for 31 games in the epl, another pathetic domestic season.

killadoob

26-06-2008, 03:07 PM

they not alan

crouch is a great player man, given the chance

you cant expect a player to do well when he plays one game and is left out the next 3

he needs to play, he needs to go to a team like he was at Southampton

a team like man city blackburn even arsenal would love him

good with head, good with both feet

he scored a hartick with his head, left and right foot

thats a complete hatrick if you ask me

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 04:47 PM

The guy has played 918 minutes in the EPL and all he could get was 5 goals thats pathetic.

Season before last he was 9 goals for 31 games in the epl, another pathetic domestic season.

Shall we explain to you again that strikers are not only measured by how many goals they score?

Crouch is quite solid. He is not Adebayor but he is much better than Gomez :eek:

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 04:53 PM

Crouch is a useless striker. A strikers job is to score goals. If they cannot score goals, they are not good at their job.

Kule, is that you again?

Strikers are there to score goals,yes, but that does not mean that all strikers only do that.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 04:56 PM

huh?

WTF is Kule?

Strikers are there to score goals. Anybody who thinks otherwise, gotta be kidding me.

Well then I am kidding you.
This is not netball- stikers can do other things as well and be good at it, just like midfielders can also score goals, and even defenders.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:00 PM

Name me one good striker in the world that is a good defender.

LOL. Do you not understand that just because you are a striker does not mean that all you can do is score goals? And defenders don't just have to defend.

Ronaldo scored more than 40 goals from midfield this season.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:02 PM

Ronaldo plays in an attacking role.

Do clubs buy strikers to play like midfielders? Or do they buy strikers to score goals?

They buy players to contribute to the team's performance and create goals.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:08 PM

No you are mistaken buddy.

Clubs buy strikers to score goals!!!
clubs buy midfielders to create goals
Clubs buy defenders to defend.

If they can contribute in any other way, thats GREAT stuff!!!

But once a striker stops scoring, he will soon be shown the exit door.

Like Rooney this season? :rolleyes:

Let's see if he is shown the door shall we?

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:12 PM

Rooney is a special case, cos United believe that he will be the next captain bla bla bla.

Grooming him to be part of club history bla bla bla.

Have you never ever seen clubs buy strikers, they contribute in creating goals and everything but once they stop scoring. They are shown the door.

Benni comes to mind. He has stopped scoring, now he is benched almost every single game. They extended his contract in the hope he will perform, but nothing yet. If he doesnt perform nxt season, he will be on his way out.

If they don't score and they don't contribute in any other way, then sure.

But to say that a striker who does not score like 20 goals a season is a failure is short-sighted and simply incorrect.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:15 PM

Eish

Why are we rambling? You have your view, i think it is hopelessly incorrect. I have seen countless strikers fail at new clubs purely for this reason.

So i will stick to my theory.

Cool man, no more rambling.

Welcome to the forums btw.

hj2k_x

26-06-2008, 05:16 PM

Thx!

Seems like a cool place.

It is.

Always plenty to debate in the footy section there is.

smb3

26-06-2008, 10:22 PM

rooney is in the team for his versatility...yeah sure he had a sucky season n we wish he would regain his goal scoring form but apart from that he can create as well and works hard

smb3

26-06-2008, 10:29 PM

strikers main role are to create goals yes but if i had 2 strikers in my team n 1 of them is scoring and the other one is creating and scoring from time to time then i would keep them both. lets not forget rooney was part of united's WINNING formula guys...crouch is solid in my opinion n puts in a good performance wen he plays, he just needs a chance, every time he comes on he has to give a world cup winning performance to get some sort of credit, playing 5mins every 3 games, he's definitely not torres but i think hecan perform just like, if not better than adebayor

mercurial

27-06-2008, 08:03 AM

They buy players to contribute to the team's performance and create goals.

...and score goals...

If they don't score and they don't contribute in any other way, then sure.

But to say that a striker who does not score like 20 goals a season is a failure is short-sighted and simply incorrect.

Exactly.

rooney is in the team for his versatility...yeah sure he had a sucky season n we wish he would regain his goal scoring form but apart from that he can create as well and works hard

Exactly.

strikers main role are to create goals yes but if i had 2 strikers in my team n 1 of them is scoring and the other one is creating and scoring from time to time then i would keep them both. lets not forget rooney was part of united's WINNING formula guys...crouch is solid in my opinion n puts in a good performance wen he plays, he just needs a chance, every time he comes on he has to give a world cup winning performance to get some sort of credit, playing 5mins every 3 games, he's definitely not torres but i think hecan perform just like, if not better than adebayor

Agreed, but their main role is to score but failing to do that, they should at least contribute to the team in other departments, eg: creating goals.

PS Henry: I see Kule is back again :rolleyes:

killadoob

27-06-2008, 09:29 AM

yea dont worry kule is being dealt with i hope

rooney never had a bad season
in terms of goals yes but still 12 is not bad

he and ronaldo where the main reason united did so well

how many times did he setup ronaldo

rooney was very mature about being overshadow by ronaldo, specially when alot of the time he was setting ronaldo up

rooney is world class and will come right this season, i think rooney could have 30 goals last season but the keepers sometimes made some incredible saves to stop him

i mean against liverpool he could have had 4 goals but he didnt because of 4 great saves