View Full Version : Talk of murder. what to do?
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Right,
I was at a party the other night talking to a close relative (through marriage) of someone I am really close to. He was telling me how much he and his family have been battling with money and I was nodding and agreeing and seeming interested. Then he said two things:
"I could always start running crack up to Joburg again"
"It would be better than slitting some b*tch's throat at the ATM. Which I would do. I am that desperate."
He was not kidding.
I may be blowing this way out of proportion, but he is in close contact with someone I really care about, and I am aware of his somewhat "dodgy" background. So what can I actually do? I am now really worried about my friend who often sleeps in the same house as this person, and I don't know whether to tell them about this conversation, or let it slide; the last thing I want to do is cause unnecessary stress or worry.
Anyone got any suggestions?
mancombseepgood
02-06-2008, 03:26 PM
Well, I believe you are obliged to report it to the cops... I could be wrong... but i feel for you having to make that decision. You may be able to do it without laying charges or anything... i.e. anonymously... Whether something will come of it or not is not your business... at least talk to the person you care about.
Hoof-Hearted
02-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Won't help to report it to the cops as said current-future-crim hasn't done anything yet. Sadly I doubt you would even be able to open a case.
mercurial
02-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Oh man that is hectic! The law is not on your side ATM :(
Nerfherder
02-06-2008, 03:40 PM
Kill the dude... claim self defence.
I'm serious
Surv0
02-06-2008, 03:44 PM
Saying you would is different to actually doing it...
there isnt much you can really do except maybe talk to him and try give him alternatives or something.. going to the cops wont help...
God I hope I never met that one :eek::eek:
Seriously though I think you need to have a chat with him about it. People can spiral out of control and let themselves get carried away with their problems and crazy ways to solve them. I don't think you can let this slide.
I've listened to friends talk about how criminals are dealt with in the sugar cane fields but this......
Nocturnity
02-06-2008, 04:13 PM
I'm so desperate I could KILL ivy. I'm also so irritated I could KILL Bob. Does that mean I will?
mancombseepgood
02-06-2008, 05:22 PM
Talking to the cops may help - you're not doing it for yourself - i.e. to get an arrest, but they might be able to link these guys to a case/cases... but talking to your other friend is a must IMO.
Just_Ice
02-06-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm so desperate I could KILL ivy. I'm also so irritated I could KILL Bob. Does that mean I will?
Probably not but hey you would do us all a favour!!! :D
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 05:25 PM
I'm so desperate I could KILL ivy. I'm also so irritated I could KILL Bob. Does that mean I will?
This is a completely different context. Of course he could have been exaggerating, but the way in which it was said, as well as taking into account the sort of "relationship" I have with him, it was clearly not a joke or an exaggeration. Unfortunately I can't really talk to him about it because of the politics involved (i.e. who he is actually related to) and so on, meaning it would probably cause more issues than it would solve. I seem to be pretty much stuck and I am stressing out about it; even my work is suffering because I can't actually get it out of my head.
Bit of a dilemma :(
Probably not but hey you would do us all a favour!!! :D
Martyrdom is quite the fad nowadays
Just_Ice
02-06-2008, 05:34 PM
Martyrdom is quite the fad nowadays
True!!! Although todays incident was an exception! The bastard couldnt do it! ;)
Pixie22
02-06-2008, 05:35 PM
what a dckhead
st0rm3rs
02-06-2008, 05:43 PM
Tell his wife (your friend) about what he said. Maybe she will realize he's a lunatic and leave him. Then it won't be your problem anymore. Unless your name comes up in their fights. Then you better learn KungFu.
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Tell his wife (your friend) about what he said. Maybe she will realize he's a lunatic and leave him. Then it won't be your problem anymore. Unless your name comes up in their fights. Then you better learn KungFu.
My friend is not his wife. She's his step-daughter.
mancombseepgood
02-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Ouch... that makes it tough... but she should know if she's old enough imo
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Yeah, I'm just worried that I am over-reacting and making a big deal out of nothing...
thedutchman
02-06-2008, 06:15 PM
hmm... thats a tough one... well how about a private detector just looking over him for a week or two..
mancombseepgood
02-06-2008, 06:39 PM
Yeah, I'm just worried that I am over-reacting and making a big deal out of nothing...
Maybe take it up more casually - like you were wondering how serious he was... that way she hears - I guess you don't want her confronting him...
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 06:45 PM
I don't think she would confront him about it, but I know her family situation is pretty messed up as it is and I don't want to compound things if it isn't something particularly serious.
jsheed_sa
02-06-2008, 06:52 PM
Saying you would is different to actually doing it...
there isnt much you can really do except maybe talk to him and try give him alternatives or something.. going to the cops wont help...
Haha shouldnt you be working or moving or some such ;)
J
Nocturnity
02-06-2008, 08:22 PM
Just PM me his details and in 48 hours you won't have a problem anymore... ;)
Just PM me his details and in 48 hours you won't have a problem anymore... ;)
Okaaaaay
johnnygirl
02-06-2008, 09:26 PM
why on earth would he trust you enough to confess a crime (planning to commit a crime) to you? from your side you don't seem THAT close to him, so why does he feel he can trust you so much? you don't think he was just testing the waters with you, to see where you would stand on the issue? or maybe that's his twisted way of setting the scene to eventually ask you to lend him money (you know, because if you don't, their blood will be on your conscience, since you could have done something to "save someone's life")?
Kasyx
02-06-2008, 09:39 PM
why on earth would he trust you enough to confess a crime (planning to commit a crime) to you? from your side you don't seem THAT close to him, so why does he feel he can trust you so much? you don't think he was just testing the waters with you, to see where you would stand on the issue? or maybe that's his twisted way of setting the scene to eventually ask you to lend him money (you know, because if you don't, their blood will be on your conscience, since you could have done something to "save someone's life")?
That's the thing, I'm loathe to take it seriously as I kinda wonder why he would tell me this sort of thing in the first place... You're probably right in that it was more an attempt to shock me into offering money; I hadn't considered that possibility, thank you :)
HavocXphere
02-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Exactly how drunk was this dude at the stage when he said that?
johnnygirl
02-06-2008, 09:45 PM
he sounds like an absolute creep, and of course you know if you "lend" this kind of oke money, you'll never see it again. but you know what i don't understand, is how any half-normal mother can choose to marry a loser like this, to be a stepfather to her daughter. that mother also deserves to be dragged behind a speeding car.
Nanfeishen
02-06-2008, 10:38 PM
Have you considered the fact that he may have been yanking your chain, and seeing if he could shock you?
I have known guys to tell stories, or comment on things with such conviction, that one would swear they were true, except that what they are ultimately heading for is simply to freak you out.
Kasyx
03-06-2008, 06:35 AM
Have you considered the fact that he may have been yanking your chain, and seeing if he could shock you?
I have known guys to tell stories, or comment on things with such conviction, that one would swear they were true, except that what they are ultimately heading for is simply to freak you out.
He isn't that type of person. I know his history. I can generally take a joke and can judge when someone is talking crap. He wasn't.
skoob
03-06-2008, 07:35 AM
He sounds like a creep even if he was joking. I would be very concerned about his actions, but quite honestly theres nothing legal that can be done. He has not committed a crime as yet, so the police wont get involved.
Mephisto_Helix
03-06-2008, 07:52 AM
There's a difference between joking and saying "man I could kill that person" and saying "slitting some b*tches throat" :eek: .......... be wary of this dude.
Maelly
07-06-2008, 04:46 PM
Get back to this guy and ask him whether he was serious when he said those things. Try to advise him and if its a decent job he needs then hook him up/ networks etc
darkevil
07-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Its a utter waste of time talking to the cops...
Peronal experience.........
A ass*hle i know who`s wife decided to leave him.....had been threatning for weeks to shoot his wife.
I begged the police to remove the weapons from his house as he had not bothered to re- register them and the fact that he had threatned to shoot her.
They refused.......
Long story short,,,,,,,He did just that.......and in front of their 4 year old boy.
She dead...he out on R3000 rand bail.:mad: