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Fern9do
07-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Brilliant Bafana Bounces Back With 4-1 Win PDF Print E-mail
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Saturday, 07 June 2008 14:23
After last weeks disappointing performance against Nigeria Bafana bounced back to beat Equatorial Guinea 4-1 with a spirited performance that gave new Head Coach Joel Santana his first victory in charge.
The Brazilian made some changes to his team and they seemed to work, Khune, Moiriri, Masilele, and Modise all returned from injury to provide some much needed quality to the starting 11. Terror Fanteni was also handed a start.
Bafana started the match strongly and went on to dominate the match by out playing their opponents. Passes were swift, there was great movement on the wings and the central midfield controlled the match with Teko Modise in inspired form.
Bafana took the lead through a Kagisho Dikgacoi long range screamer in the 9th minute after a Modise cross and didn't look back from there. Sundowns striker Suprise Moiriri doubled the lead with a looping header from another Modise cross.
South Africa went into the break with a 2-0 lead and the second half continued in much the same way as the first, with Bafana totally dominating the play.
Terror Fanteni scored Bafana's third from a Tshepo Masilele cross to open his International account.
Juvenal Edjogo scored with a controversial penalty-kick on the 76th minute but it proved to be nothing more than a consolation goal as Dikgacoi grabbed his second goal of the match deep in injury time.
It was a brilliant performance from the boys and one that will have pleased Santana and the Nation.
Brilliant Performance from the boys!!:):)
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 05:41 PM
Excellent! At last we have something to celebrate on the road to 2010 :)
Just_Ice
07-06-2008, 05:44 PM
**Celebrations**
Loved the coaches interview at the end with the translator/taalveranderer :D but I will first wait till we play Nigeria at home and then comment
Fern9do
07-06-2008, 06:07 PM
**Celebrations**
Loved the coaches interview at the end with the translator/taalveranderer :D but I will first wait till we play Nigeria at home and then comment
She was fooking HOT!!!!!
:)
killadoob
07-06-2008, 07:00 PM
dont get 2 excited boys
nivek
07-06-2008, 07:05 PM
yeah, it was only guinea..
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 07:06 PM
Well at least we beat them convincingly :)
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 07:25 PM
dont get 2 excited boys
yeah, it was only guinea..
Do you guys ever have anything positive to say or ever get excited about anything?
Equatorial Guinea are 74th and we are ranked 68th in the FIFA rankings and we just beat them 4 - 1 !
Would us beating Brazil by 10 goals to nil even illicit a little bit of excitement from you? Or does supporting our boys just go against your ideologies?
Well done SA!! May you go from strength to strength!
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 07:28 PM
Do you guys ever have anything positive to say or ever get excited about anything?
Equatorial Guinea are 74th and we are ranked 68th in the FIFA rankings and we just beat them 4 - 1 !
Would us beating Brazil by 10 goals to nil even illicit a little bit of excitement from you? Or does supporting our boys just go against your ideologies?
Well done SA!! May you go from strength to strength!
Wow, we are as low as that! :o
Does make the result all the more impressive in that case.
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 07:33 PM
Wow, we are as low as that! :o
Does make the result all the more impressive in that case.
Our highest ever ranking was 16th in August 1996
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Our highest ever ranking was 16th in August 1996
Those were the days, after winning AFCON :)
Fern9do
07-06-2008, 07:40 PM
We've fallen along way down the ranking since Clive Barkers days.
Today performance was excellent though and gives me hope for 2010.
In Teko Modise we have one hell of a footballer!He can lead us to glory.
We were still missing naashief morris, zuma and chabangu but played brilliantly.
i just cant help but like this Santana guy:)
native
07-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Good game spoiled by the referee.
If only they can stop blowing hot and cold.
Last three matches
SA 3 Paraguay 0
SA 0 Nigeria 2
SA 4 E Guinea 1
Can someone please remind me if South African have won with a score greater than 4-1 apart from the game against Namibia in Ougadogou
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 07:55 PM
Good game spoiled by the referee.
If only they can stop blowing hot and cold.
Last three matches
SA 3 Paraguay 0
SA 0 Nigeria 2
SA 4 E Guinea 1
Can someone please remind me if South African have won with a score greater than 4-1 apart from the game against Namibia in Ougadogou
Nigeria are pretty good though...
native
07-06-2008, 08:03 PM
Nigeria are pretty good though...
Oh yes - and IMHO I think we were lucky to have conceded only 2 goals
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Good game spoiled by the referee.
If only they can stop blowing hot and cold.
Last three matches
SA 3 Paraguay 0
SA 0 Nigeria 2
SA 4 E Guinea 1
Can someone please remind me if South African have won with a score greater than 4-1 apart from the game against Namibia in Ougadogou
South Africa vs Chad 02/06/2007 DURBAN 4-0
South Africa vs Swaziland 24/08/2002 POLOKWANE 4-1
South Africa vs Gabon 7/02/1999 PRETORIA 4-1
Could go further back if you desire... :) But bottom line is it is a great result!
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:06 PM
Good game spoiled by the referee.
If only they can stop blowing hot and cold.
Last three matches
SA 3 Paraguay 0
SA 0 Nigeria 2
SA 4 E Guinea 1
Can someone please remind me if South African have won with a score greater than 4-1 apart from the game against Namibia in Ougadogou
South africa won 8 - 0 against Australia in 1955
Fern9do
07-06-2008, 08:08 PM
I dont remember us beating a team by more than 4 goals.
Theres no easy matches in International Football. Just ask England:)
Nigeria didnt go the world cup 2006 because Togo managed more points than them, im sure people were saying "Its only Togo" back then too.
This was a brilliant performance and needs to be celebrated.
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 08:12 PM
I dont remember us beating a team by more than 4 goals.
Theres no easy matches in International Football. Just ask England:)
Nigeria didnt go the world cup 2006 because Togo managed more points than them, im sure people were saying "Its only Togo" back then too.
This was a brilliant performance and needs to be celebrated.
Damn straight... if only some people would allow themselves to do so!
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:14 PM
Lets be realistic we talking about a team that has never qualified for any tournament in their history and at one point was rated 195 by Fifa.
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 08:22 PM
Lets be realistic we talking about a team that has never qualified for any tournament in their history and at one point was rated 195 by Fifa.
And when England beat Georgia by 4 goals to 1 do their fans say let's be realistic or do they sing and dance and celebrate the win?
native
07-06-2008, 08:25 PM
South Africa vs Chad 02/06/2007 DURBAN 4-0
South Africa vs Swaziland 24/08/2002 POLOKWANE 4-1
South Africa vs Gabon 7/02/1999 PRETORIA 4-1
Could go further back if you desire... :) But bottom line is it is a great result!
Tx LancelotSA
where can i access a list of Bafana Bafana previous results?
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:27 PM
And when England beat Georgia by 4 goals to 1 do their fans say let's be realistic or do they sing and dance and celebrate the win?
No they didnt dance and celebrate the win, england are expected to beat teams like Georgia.
South africa on the other hand would not beat Georgia.
native
07-06-2008, 08:27 PM
South africa won 8 - 0 against Australia in 1955
I should have played for that team:D
Fern9do
07-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Togo had also never qualified for the world cup before they managed to do it ahead of nigeria.
Point is theres no 'Easy' matches in world football these days. Scotland was 1 minute away from qaulifying for Euro2008 ahead of Italy.
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Togo had also never qualified for the world cup before they managed to do it ahead of nigeria.
Point is theres no 'Easy' matches in world football these days. Scotland was 1 minute away from qaulifying for Euro2008 ahead of Italy.
Yes there are easy matches when you playing low african teams like zimbabwe,Equatorial Guinea etc.
These team will get slaughtered anywhere else in the world.
Also Togo have qualified for the African nations, Equatorial Guinea have never qualified for it.
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Togo had also never qualified for the world cup before they managed to do it ahead of nigeria.
Point is theres no 'Easy' matches in world football these days. Scotland was 1 minute away from qaulifying for Euro2008 ahead of Italy.
i wish they'd have made it. Darren Fletcher FTW :o
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:45 PM
i wish they'd have made it. Darren Fletcher FTW :o
Would rather have france and italy in the cup.
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 08:45 PM
Would rather have france and italy in the cup.
And England? ;)
LancelotSA
07-06-2008, 08:46 PM
Yes there are easy matches when you playing low african teams like zimbabwe,Equatorial Guinea etc.
These team will get slaughtered anywhere else in the world.
Also Togo have qualified for the African nations, Equatorial Guinea have never qualified for it.
I think now would be the time to ask SupaSta how England is doing in Euro 2008! But it would be nice of we could keep this thread to South African football and not get it taken over with that Euro/Uefa/Premier League crap again!
SuPaStA
07-06-2008, 08:50 PM
England did not deserve to go through and they lost to the better teams, simple as that.
You dont see English ppl going around jumping and shouting because they beat Trinidad and Tobago 3-0 last week.
hj2k_x
07-06-2008, 08:51 PM
England did not deserve to go through and they lost to the better teams, simple as that.
You are right there :(
I just wish they had made it anyway. I mean Poland are there! :o
Fern9do
07-06-2008, 08:55 PM
England couldnt beat low ranking european teams like Andora,Estonia and Israel Supesta.Thats why they did not qualify.
If that doesnt convince you that theres no easy matches in International football then maybe the fact that Greece,Yes Greece are the current European Champions.
:)
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 10:19 AM
What you talking about England beat Andorra 5-0 and 3-0.
I wouldnt call Israel a bad team, they would beat south africa any day.
killadoob
08-06-2008, 10:22 AM
Israel are actually a really good team
work well as a unit
Israel would whip SA 5-0 i can tell you that for sure
Fern9do
08-06-2008, 10:31 AM
England drew against andora ,estonia and israel. Away i think.im just speaking off the top of my head so i may be wrong.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 10:37 AM
England beat all those teams and drew against Israel, as previously stated Israel are a good team, so a draw can be something to expect.
Their team is a mixture of players from all different leagues/teams including chelsea,barca,liverpool...
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 10:39 AM
SupaSta, may I ask if you are English? As in from England?
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 10:41 AM
No I'm south african.
Fern9do
08-06-2008, 10:54 AM
I checkd up and i was wrong.England drew against low ranking european teams Macadonia and Israel:)
A win in one of those matches and they would have been at the Euros.
Anyways if a low ranking European team like Greece can win the Europe then surely that proves that theres no easy matches in international football.
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 10:57 AM
I checkd up and i was wrong.England drew against low ranking european teams Macadonia and Israel:)
A win in one of those matches and they would have been at the Euros.
Anyways if a low ranking European team like Greece can win the Europe then surely that proves that theres no easy matches in international football.
The Macedonia game was at home as well :(
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 11:07 AM
No I'm south african.
May i then ask why you seem to be a supporter of English football but not South African football? And I am not having a dig at you by saying this, it is something I have always wondered.
A few people I know, with no ties to England will keep an eye on the English teams progress but they will not care at all about whether South Africa is playing or how they did. They are also huge fans of Euro 2008 but do not give a damn about South Africa's qualification for the African Cup of Nations.
I just find it weird... I will watch the Tri Nations rugby, I will not be too bothered about the Six nations rugby... I am South African so I want to support my team. Yes, I myself am not the biggest soccer fan, so I do not go out of my way to watch South Africa play soccer but I will show an interest in it, watch it if I can, and definitely support them during 2010.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 11:14 AM
May i then ask why you seem to be a supporter of English football but not South African football? And I am not having a dig at you by saying this, it is something I have always wondered.
A few people I know, with no ties to England will keep an eye on the English teams progress but they will not care at all about whether South Africa is playing or how they did. They are also huge fans of Euro 2008 but do not give a damn about South Africa's qualification for the African Cup of Nations.
I just find it weird... I will watch the Tri Nations rugby, I will not be too bothered about the Six nations rugby... I am South African so I want to support my team. Yes, I myself am not the biggest soccer fan, so I do not go out of my way to watch South Africa play soccer but I will show an interest in it, watch it if I can, and definitely support them during 2010.
I dont support english football I support La Liga/Spain.
I support SA football (national team) but I'm not a fool to think that a win over Equatorial Guinea is a big thing.They were suppose to win this game and I would be more worried that a team like that got a goal against them.
@cash
Israel are not low ranking, they ranked 15th in europe
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 11:19 AM
I dont support english football I support La Liga/Spain.
I support SA football (national team) but I'm not a fool to think that a win over Equatorial Guinea is a big thing.They were suppose to win this game and I would be more worried that a team like that got a goal against them.
But we scored four goals... surely in any circumstance that is something to celebrate? The one goal scored by Guinea was a penalty so no need for concern about defensive patterns there
75 mins: Khune gives away a penalty as he clatters into the Guinea attacker on the edge of the area. Bafana think it is outside the box and there is plenty of discussion with the referee going on.
78 mins: PENALTY SCORED! Juvenal Edjogo slots the ball home with ease
Fern9do
08-06-2008, 11:27 AM
I dont support english football I support La Liga/Spain.
I support SA football (national team) but I'm not a fool to think that a win over Equatorial Guinea is a big thing.They were suppose to win this game and I would be more worried that a team like that got a goal against them.
@cash
Israel are not low ranking, they ranked 15th in europe
and Macedonia?
A win in that match and they would have been in Euro 2008
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 11:34 AM
@cash
Israel are not low ranking, they ranked 15th in europe
Equatorial Guinea are ranked 15th in Africa.... compared to South Africa's 12th.
England 7th in Europe compared to Israel's 15th...
Is the 4-1 win still not at least worth a little "whooop"?
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 11:35 AM
and Macedonia?
A win in that match and they would have been in Euro 2008
Macedonia ranked 31st in Europe... so SupaSta now do we get a "whooooooop"?
Fern9do
08-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Equatorial Guinea are ranked 15th in Africa.... compared to South Africa's 12th.
England 7th in Europe compared to Israel's 15th...
Is the 4-1 win still not at least worth a little "whooop"?
I'm not a mathematician but that means that England couldn't beat a team that was ranked 8 places below them....bafana whipped a team ranked only 3 places below them.
I'm not going to pretend that EQ.Guinea is a great team...just don't understand why Supesta thinks Israel is a great team:confused:
:)
Fern9do
08-06-2008, 11:41 AM
i think yesterday showed that there is reason to be optimistic, just like when we whipped one of South America's strongest teams(Paraguay)
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 11:45 AM
I'm not a mathematician but that means that England couldn't beat a team that was ranked 8 places below them....bafana whipped a team ranked only 3 places below them.
I'm not going to pretend that EQ.Guinea is a great team...just don't understand why Supesta thinks Israel is a great team:confused:
:)
It gets even worse when you look at overall rankings...
England ranked 9th, Israel ranked 22nd... 13 places....
South Africa ranked 68th, Equatorial Guinea ranked 74th.... 6 places only...
killadoob
08-06-2008, 12:39 PM
But we scored four goals... surely in any circumstance that is something to celebrate? The one goal scored by Guinea was a penalty so no need for concern about defensive patterns there
dude as supa said beating a team 4-1 who are obviously less skilled than you is expected
sure im happy they didnt lose or draw but im not getting my hopes up
that nigerian game showed us we suck ass and need to improve
a 4-1 win against a weaker team is expected, lets see how we do against nigeria before we start celebrating thats all we are saying
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 12:42 PM
Damn you guys are a tough crowd... well let's hope we beat a team ranked only 6 places lower than us on the FIFA rankings by 10 goals to nil next time to illicit some optimism... :)
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 01:27 PM
Damn you guys are a tough crowd... well let's hope we beat a team ranked only 6 places lower than us on the FIFA rankings by 10 goals to nil next time to illicit some optimism... :)
I agree. Nigeria are a really good side - one of the best in Africa consistently. We are not saying we are going to win 2010, just not make the fools of ourselves that a lot of people say, and even hope, we will do.
Well done to Bafana Bafana. Good result, will build some confidence in the squad.
i agree with most of the comments in this post. I support Bafana win or lose, but lets be realistic. They played against a very weak team. If we lost to them, we are truely hopeless.
Alot of positives coming out of the game, but lets not dance and celebrate - its Equatorial Guinea afterall, alot of people didnt even know there is a place like that on the map.
nivek
08-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Do you guys ever have anything positive to say or ever get excited about anything?
Equatorial Guinea are 74th and we are ranked 68th in the FIFA rankings and we just beat them 4 - 1 !
Would us beating Brazil by 10 goals to nil even illicit a little bit of excitement from you? Or does supporting our boys just go against your ideologies?
Well done SA!! May you go from strength to strength!
For a nation that loves football we shouldnt be 68th in the world, thats embarassing. The fact that we beat EG, a nation that barely has food is meaningless and expected.. I was really impressed when we beat Paraguay tho and the goals were good ones..
I agree. We shouldnt be 68th - that ranking is PATHETIC.
Excuse me if i dont excited for beating a country that are 74th in the world.
South Africans love football, its sad we have to put up with this extremely low level of football that our team plays.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:26 PM
Come time for Nigeria they will lose another 2-0 if not more.
You cant compare the joke of a team Equatorial Guinea to any european team.
England went out and beat Trinidad and Tobago 3-0 with a 2nd strength team.Did you see english people celebrate the win? no, they were questioning why england even bothered to play the team.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 02:31 PM
Come time for Nigeria they will lose another 2-0 if not more.
Your optimism is so contagious!
You remind me a little of the guys who had big mouths prior to SA playing Wales in rugby this weekend... they predicted failure and embarrassment but as usual they have been totally absent from the said thread once the game was over...
That's what makes me mad. It's easy to predict doom, gloom and defeat and then not be around when proven wrong. It's too easy.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Don't compare south african rugby to south african football.SA Rugby is the best in the world and I expected a big win against wales this weekend.
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 02:35 PM
And don't compare SA football with European football then.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:35 PM
Good Luck to SA against Nigeria but I predict a 2-0 win for Nigeria.
Stronger team and will be playing at home.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:36 PM
And don't compare SA football with European football then.
Trust me I will never compare SA football to anything outside of Africa.I was comparing the fact you making a big deal out of a small/expected win.
Also south africa have never beat a european team in their history.
Your optimism is so contagious!
You remind me a little of the guys who had big mouths prior to SA playing Wales in rugby this weekend... they predicted failure and embarrassment but as usual they have been totally absent from the said thread once the game was over...
That's what makes me mad. It's easy to predict doom, gloom and defeat and then not be around when proven wrong. It's too easy.
See thats the difference. I think the team that played Wales was pathetic. Dont know how certain players got chosen. Even though it was a pathetic team, i expected a win!!!
The reality is, if we played our strongest team against Wales - the win would have been much bigger.
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Trust me I will never compare SA football to anything outside of Africa.I was comparing the fact you making a big deal out of a small/expected win.
Cool.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Also south africa have never beat a european team in their history.
Turkey 0:2 (0:0) South Africa
23/05/2002 HONG KONG Friendly
Malta 0:1 (0:0) South Africa
28/05/2000 TA'QALI Friendly
South Africa 1:0 Sweden
27/11/1999 PRETORIA Friendly
...but i do not doubt there will be some exclusions applied to what you said...
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Turkey 0:2 (0:0) South Africa
23/05/2002 HONG KONG Friendly
lol turkey is not part of Europe.
They more non-eruope than europe I Believe but they do play in the euro.
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 02:46 PM
lol turkey is not part of Europe.
They more non-eruope than europe I Believe but they do play in the euro.
They recently joined the EU if I am not mistaken...
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:47 PM
They recently joined the EU if I am not mistaken...
No they want to join the EU (for the last few years) but nobody in the EU wants them to join.
Turkey joining the EU is CONTROVERSIAL to say the least. It was on the news in Europe for YEARS!!!!
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 02:49 PM
lol turkey is not part of Europe.
They more non-eruope than europe I Believe but they do play in the euro.
They are part of Eufa but feel free to comment on the other examples I added... i also did not mention draws against France and Denmark as you did say wins!
Turkey is a transcontinental[54] Eurasian country. Asian Turkey (made up largely of Anatolia), which includes 97% of the country, is separated from European Turkey by the Bosporus, the Sea of Marmara, and the Dardanelles (which together form a water link between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean).
hj2k_x
08-06-2008, 02:49 PM
No they want to join the EU (for the last few years) but nobody in the EU wants them to join.
I see. I really thought they made it the other day along with a number of other countries...
They are part of Eufa but feel free to comment on the other examples I added... i also did not mention draws against France and Denmark as you did say wins!
What are you on about? Do you want us to sing and dance that we beat Guinea? :sick:
Seriously man! Their are some positives you can take out of the game, but dont be a blind supporter and somehow try to think that Bafana are now suddenly back on track.
We have too much work to do. We are still hopeless in so many aspects. Play a decent team like Egypt, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Ghana etc they will make us look silly.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 02:53 PM
They are part of Eufa but feel free to comment on the other examples I added... i also did not mention draws against France and Denmark as you did say wins!
Draws dont count I'm talking about wins.
Even Iceland beat south africa 4-1, and they ranked below SA by the way.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 02:55 PM
What are you on about? Do you want us to sing and dance that we beat Guinea? :sick:
Seriously man! Their are some positives you can take out of the game, but dont be a blind supporter and somehow try to think that Bafana are now suddenly back on track.
We have too much work to do. We are still hopeless in so many aspects. Play a decent team like Egypt, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Ghana etc they will make us look silly.
I am not! I am more concerned with those that feel the need to knock the South African team even when they beat another team 4-1!
I was also then responding specifically to SupaSta who incorrectly stated that South Africa have never beaten a European team! This is clearly just another side swipe at the team which I do not feel is necessary. I do not for one minute think we will win the World Cup, although I do hope and will never write the team off before hand.
Some people seem to take the easy route of rather writing the team off before hand and then when they do win they then want to join hands and celebrate... they are then in a win win situation as they can say I told you so f we lose or get away with it is we win as everyone is so euphoric they do not take them to task! This thread was not about whether we win the wo0rld cup it was about our 4-1 win over EG! Someone else turned it into a "aha but can we beat a European team?" thread!
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Draws dont count I'm talking about wins.
Even Iceland beat south africa 4-1, and they ranked below SA by the way.
So did you not read the other two results i added above that are clearly part of South Africa's history...? Please line up your excuses for that!
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:01 PM
I am not! I am more concerned with those that feel the need to knock the South African team even when they beat another team 4-1!
I was also then responding specifically to SupaSta who incorrectly stated that South Africa have never beaten a European team! This is clearly just another side swipe at the team which I do not feel is necessary. I do not for one minute think we will win the World Cup, although I do hope and will never write the team off before hand.
Some people seem to take the easy route of rather writing the team off before hand and then when they do win they then want to join hands and celebrate... they are then in a win win situation as they can say I told you so f we lose or get away with it is we win as everyone is so euphoric they do not take them to task! This thread was not about whether we win the wo0rld cup it was about our 4-1 win over EG! Someone else turned it into a "aha but can we beat a European team?" thread!
4-1 over EG is nothing to celebrate, it means nothing.The team still cant play correctly when they come up against teams that know how to play football.
We will not win the world cup correct but we may not even qualify for the African nations.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:03 PM
4-1 over EG is nothing to celebrate, it means nothing.The team still cant play correctly when they come up against teams that know how to play football.
We will not win the world cup correct but we may not even qualify for the African nations.
Well I will be supporting my team no matter what....
I accept your apology for your earlier incorrect statement :)
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:08 PM
Well I will be supporting my team no matter what....
I accept your apology for your earlier incorrect statement :)
The fact you went to google your original answer and then edit after googling some more, pathetic if you make yourself out to be such a BIG supporter.
The worse SA supporters are ones that are not realistic and in their eyes south africa cant do any wrong.Sounds like someone in government.
Good to see people are so supportive of Bafana Bafana. The hardest sports fan has to be the fans of our national football team.
Th eonly way we can qualify for 2010 is to host the damn thing. If we didnt host it, we wouldnt qualify. Hell we couldnt even score a single goal in the AFCON.
Please excuse me if i dont go woop woop and sing and dance cos we beat a much WEAKER team.
Good to see people are so supportive of Bafana Bafana. The hardest sports fan has to be the fans of our national football team.
Th eonly way we can qualify for 2010 is to host the damn thing. If we didnt host it, we wouldnt qualify. Hell we couldnt even score a single goal in the AFCON.
Please excuse me if i dont go woop woop and sing and dance cos we beat a much WEAKER team.
Maybe he works for the government :D
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:17 PM
The fact you went to google your original answer and then edit after googling some more, pathetic if you make yourself out to be such a BIG supporter.
The worse SA supporters are ones that are not realistic and in their eyes south africa cant do any wrong.Sounds like someone in government.
No, actually if the truth be known I was using the FIFA website and was going back through South Africa's results... I was then adding wins against European opposition as I found them... you will find if you look a the time of the edit it was pretty much the same time as your hasty response to "prove" Turkey is not European.
No matter your argument and attempted come backs what you said is incorrect... whether proven by Google or memory, 5 minutes after the fact or three days later... perhaps I can help to prevent yourself from making incorrect statements like that in future.
You final little dig I am afraid has no effect on me as we all know the worst type of supporter is the one who only supports the team in times of success....
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:19 PM
No, actually if the truth be known I was using the FIFA website and was going back through South Africa's results... I was then adding wins against European opposition as I found them... you will find if you look a the time of the edit it was pretty much the same time as your hasty response to "prove" Turkey is not European.
No matter your argument and attempted come backs what you said is incorrect... whether proven by Google or memory, 5 minutes after the fact or three days later... perhaps I can help to prevent yourself from making incorrect statements like that in future.
You final little dig I am afraid has no effect on me as we all know the worst type of supporter is the one who only supports the team in times of success....
Google or fifa rankings, you cant even tell me off the top of your head if south africa has beaten a european team and you say you a fan.
I was at least correct in my statement as they havnt beat a European team outisde of a friendly (this i get from memory not google/fifa/wikipedia)
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:19 PM
Please excuse me if i dont go woop woop and sing and dance cos we beat a much WEAKER team.
Ha ha I now know you guys are blind.... no matter what proof is posted you will continue with your thought processes. It has been shown on here on numerous occasions that EG are not "MUCH WEAKER" but in fact are only ranked 6 places lower...
Anyway....
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:22 PM
I was at least correct in my statement as they havnt(sic) beat a European team outisde(sic) of a friendly (this i get from memory not google/fifa/wikipedia)
Damn having an intelligent conversation with you is tough....
Also south africa have never beat(sic) a european team in their history.
I do not see the word friendly there....?
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:23 PM
Ha ha I now know you guys are blind.... no matter what proof is posted you will continue with your thought processes. It has been shown on here on numerous occasions that EG are not "MUCH WEAKER" but in fact are only ranked 6 places lower...
Anyway....
A team that has never qualified for any tournament in their history, if south africa isn't much stronger than them then we are a truly sh*t team.
Ha ha I now know you guys are blind.... no matter what proof is posted you will continue with your thought processes. It has been shown on here on numerous occasions that EG are not "MUCH WEAKER" but in fact are only ranked 6 places lower...
Anyway....
@ LancelotSA - Do you watch football? Do you support any European teams or do you just like watching Bafana play?
Bafana Bafana are HOPELESS! Their football makes me want to cry! I can find more enjoyment out of kids kicking a rock out in my street. They are pathetic!!!
I am a supporter of football and sadly what Bafana plays cannot be considered football.
When they learn how to play football, i will start supporting them more enthusiastically. As for now, i will say congrats but i will never ever be a blind supporter like you that wants people to believe that Bafana are now on the right track.
they got SCHOOLED against Nigeria a week ago. What was it? 30% posession in the second half.
Bafana Bafana need to learn to play football. What they play is something else.
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:26 PM
Damn having an intelligent conversation with you is tough....
I do not see the word friendly there....?
Go watch a real football match then come talk to me, you obviously have no clue as to how football is suppose to be played.
Nigeria as kule said owned SA on the pitch and this will happen again in nigeria.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:26 PM
@ LancelotSA - Do you watch football? Do you support any European teams or do you just like watching Bafana play?
Why would I?
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Go watch a real football match then come talk to me, you obviously have no clue as to how football is suppose to be played.
Nigeria as kule said owned SA on the pitch and this will happen again in nigeria.
You are very good at dodging things you know that....
Seeing as though you appear to be unable to apologise when wrong I will accept it that you know you are wrong with the statement you made and that you wish you could apologise but are unable to... :)
Since when has Bafana played great football. They win one extremely weak team and now the nation wants us to forget about all the years we had to put up with utter crap!!!
Why would I?
Cos that is football ;) What you are watching is probably the furthest thing from football.
You need to watch the PRO's do it, then you too will also look at Bafana's win as ordinary and expected.;)
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 03:29 PM
You are very good at dodging things you know that....
dodging what?
That SA need to improve before I'm gonna celbrate one of their wins?
That you google answer for your team and no nothing off the top of your head about them?
You and your vuvuzela start a thread when South Africa makes a win worth celebrating.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:31 PM
Cos that is football ;) What you are watching is probably the furthest thing from football.
You need to watch the PRO's do it, then you too will also look at Bafana's win as ordinary and expected.;)
I am a South African fan... not a football fan. I will support South Africa if they played tiddly winks! Even if they played it badly! If they win tiddly winks againt the blind, spastic, parkison diseased geriatric team I will celebrate the win.
The same as I will support Natal at any sporting event they partake in. I am aware of my roots and support my teams on this basis... I do not choose a team to follow based on their sporting success.
I am a South African fan... not a football fan. I will support South Africa if they played tiddly winks! Even if they played it badly! If they win tiddly winks againt the blind, spastic, parkison diseased geriatric team I will celebrate the win.
The same as I will support Natal at any sporting event they partake in. I am aware of my roots and support my teams on this basis... I do not choose a team to follow based on their sporting success.
I support all South African teams. Do you consider people who support European teams sell outs? hahaha That is a joke. I am a supporter of all sports especially football.
Its hard to support a team that cannot play football (Bafana) If you knew how football is supposed to be played you would also find it hard to support Bafana.
I will support Bafana Bafana over any other national team. It gets very irritating chatting to people like you who hasnt the foggiest clue on how football is suppose to be played. All you concerned about is that your country is playing, you dont give any regard to how they play.
When Bafana learns to play proper footbal, they will earn the respect of the nation. For now, they are the joke of the nation.
The mere fact that beating Guinea deserves a mention is testiment how PATHETIc Bafana actually play.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 03:41 PM
I support all South African teams. Do you consider people who support European teams sell outs? hahaha That is a joke. I am a supporter of all sports especially football.
Its hard to support a team that cannot play football (Bafana) If you knew how football is supposed to be played you would also find it hard to support Bafana.
I will support Bafana Bafana over any other national team. It gets very irritating chatting to people like you who hasnt the foggiest clue on how football is suppose to be played. All you concerned about is that your country is playing, you dont give any regard to how they play.
When Bafana learns to play proper footbal, they will earn the respect of the nation. For now, they are the joke of the nation.
The mere fact that beating Guinea deserves a mention is testiment how PATHETIc Bafana actually play.
If you read through this thread you will see that I openly admit that football is a cr-p game in my eyes when compared to rugby... but that does not for one minute I mean I do not know how the game should be played. Equally I do not blindly accept that the European way is the best way. Each nation has there own unique skills. South American football is different. European football is different. And yes you are right, in that at the end of the day I do not care whether Bafana looked European enough in their play, I am just interested in there ability to win.... surely a lot of fans have the same attitude?
You also cannot try and fool me that you are a true South African supporter when you end that post with the sentence you do.
I am a supporter of football. Sadly that is one thing Bafana dont know how to play.
killadoob
08-06-2008, 04:40 PM
problem with our country is most schools dont have soccer as a sport
i know when i was young it was cricket or rubgy
dont know about the black school, im sure they would have soccer as sport
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 04:47 PM
Thats not the reason we suck, there is enough football being played at schools.
My school soccer (football) was the main sport and in black schools thats probably the only/main sport they have.
@ Killa - that is a extremely poor reason. hahahah
:D Soccer is probably the most played sport in our schools in this country.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Give us your reasons? I'm sure it'll make for interesting reading seeing you try to keep it PC :)
Bafana's problem is this: consistency.
They blow hot one match and then cold the next, just look at our last few results against Paraguay, Nigeria and Guinea.
Next problem: complacency.
Yup, Bafana suffer the same illness as the Proteas, as soon as we're in a good position to beat the opposition, we relax and end up giving away the match.
Also, we don't have half the fluidity that the bigger teams possess and it's gonna take a monumental effort from Santana to get the team to gel together.
People on here moan like little oumas when we lose but when we win, the tune all of a sudden changes. We need to support our boys, we all know that we don't have the best soccer team in the world but the guys are definitely capable of playing a solid match, all they have to do is maintain consistency.
IMO
nivek
08-06-2008, 05:17 PM
there is no discipline amongst SA's players
its all about money women and beer
SuPaStA
08-06-2008, 05:25 PM
I think football needs to improve at the club level first before we start looking at the national team.PSL clubs play some of the worst football out there and I think this just gets mirrored in the national team.
LancelotSA
08-06-2008, 05:40 PM
there is no discipline amongst SA's players
its all about money women and beer
Ha ha you say that and immediately visions come to mind of English players involved in orgies with women caught on tape, manager's filmed in orgies, famous Brazilian footballers caught with transvestite prostitutes... but of course only in SA is football full of money, women and booze!
nivek
08-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Ha ha you say that and immediately visions come to mind of English players involved in orgies with women caught on tape, manager's filmed in orgies, famous Brazilian footballers caught with transvestite prostitutes... but of course only in SA is football full of money, women and booze!
Exactly, and where is England in Euro 2008? and the brazilian footballer you refer to is way past his sell by date