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20-01-2004, 11:51 PM
Can anyonw tell me what international gaming pings are like. The only thing keeping me from changing from ADSL to MyWireless is lack of knowledge on the gaming pings. I play C&C Generals nearly every night of my life on international servers and currently with ADSL I average an international ping of around 220ms which is very acceptable for a game like Generals. Could any of you informed people provide me with some info on doing the same with MyWireless?
21-01-2004, 08:54 AM
They're routing through satelite for international links, so I guess it would be a bit more than 220ms, don't know exactly. Speculation.
You could, however, take the 128k package, and get NoCap's new gaming server product which would sure bring down international gaming pings, i think the total cost would be 800 bucks? for 24/7 internet at 128k, no cap and not bad I might add, although, wait till i get mywireless and I'll tell you ;)
21-01-2004, 09:19 AM
So Noone when are you getting it and are you going to post up some intresting fact for us not that I'm curious or anything :P
21-01-2004, 10:13 AM
Well, I faxed them everything this morning, called to make sure the fax got there, hopefully they'll return the call (doubt it) so by tomorrow it SHOULD be processed (hopefully) and by Friday I should have the modem, thats if they still need me to make a deposit for the 500 rand beforehand, which could take another 24 hours, and providing the courier company doesn't deliver on saturdays, we're looking at next week monday
will post figures soon dude, don't worry :)
21-01-2004, 08:16 PM
Tell me more about this "NoCap" gaming package or a URL where I can read some more on it please.
I have to say that before the MyWireless buzz came about, my international gaming pings were around 450 - 500ms which was still provided me with a decent game of Generals. Since MyWireless hit the news my ADSL has improved all round. Dunno if telskum crapped themselves or what but it is definately better. If I can get around 450ms or so on MyWireless then I have no reason left to keep ADSL. My international gaming ping is all the info I need now to make my decision :)
21-01-2004, 09:24 PM
Found this article on the net (In NZ it's called woosh)...according to this, the package is not suited for online games? [V]
Speed: Up to 500kbit/s
Average speed in our tests: 208kbit/s
Monthly cost: $64.95–$1099
What you need: Woosh wireless modem, USB. Mac and Linux users must use the optional ethernet adaptor.
Hot: Lets you roam your house or the city; plug-and-play installation; uncapped home plans; speed/plan user-adjustable via website
Not: Microsoft says no good for Xbox Live; Auckland-only at present
A huge part of Telecom’s natural advantage over every other telco looking to break into the broadband market is the fact it owns the vast network of copper telephone wires that spans the entire country. To try to match this level of supply with a wired network would cost quite a bit to say the least — which is why wireless networks have proved to be an irresistible lure to the likes of Walker Wireless (now Woosh Wireless).
When last we looked at wireless internet from Walker Wireless, it certainly showed some promising signs. But this new iteration of the company bears almost no resemblance to its former self. It has now largely dispensed with WiFi in favour of W-CDMA technology that appears at the heart of the US-developed IP Wireless modems (such as the one pictured below) that connect customers to its new Woosh service.
An IP Wireless modem operates in a very similar way to mobile phone, and indeed Woosh’s transmitters piggyback on Vodafone cell towers, as well as having a few carefully disguised locations of its own. In a further cooperative step, you can buy a Woosh pack from Vodafone stores.
And as with any cellular service, your Woosh will work best in areas of good reception. This doesn’t just mean the location of your house. Placing your IP Wireless modem next to a window will often optimise reception. An optional $55 booster antenna can also help.
The modem itself is small — about the size of a Pocket PC — with a side-mounted omni-directional antenna, USB connectivity and a built-in, rechargeable battery for the ultimate in mobile internet.
Installation turned out to be simple and painless. Head to the Woosh website to check to see if you reside in the (rather limited at the moment) coverage area by typing your street address into a web form, fill in your details, choose a plan and whip out the credit card. In my case, the external USB modem was couriered the next day and setup took just a couple of minutes with some easy-to-follow instructions.
Alternatively, Dick Smith stores are selling a number of well-priced connection packs starting at $263 that include a modem (unsubsidised this will normally set you back a hefty $674 on its own), a limited-time free connection offer and the first month’s subscription to one of the Woosh plans.
For home use, the most enticing of these plans will likely be the Woosh Everyday package consisting of a 250kbit/s speed-restricted service with unlimited monthly data. Of course “unlimited data” is actually subject to a “reasonable use” clause, whereby anyone using excessive amounts of data (around 7–8GB per month) may be contacted by Woosh and asked if they wouldn’t mind considering another plan. This kind of clause is pretty rare these days, with most providers opting for a plain old data cap.
One particularly interesting feature of Woosh is the ability to buy “bandwidth on demand”. For instance, if you sign up for the 250kbit/s Everyday plan, you can turbocharge the connection at a moment’s notice, temporarily boosting the top speed up to either 350kbit/s or 500kbit/s. Sign into the Woosh website, click a button and the modem signs off and back on again automatically. From this point on you’re paying by the minute — 20 cents for 350kbit/s or 40 cents for 500kbit/s. To get back to your normal plan, simply log off and reconnect.
Speed is fairly consistent, with our local FTP tests using our Woosh Everyday account averaging 208kbit/s and peaking at 220kbit/s. Gamers will be disappointed to hear that lag is an issue with Woosh — in our Call of Duty tests, we found online gaming to be unplayable. Games that don’t require such fast response times should be fine, however.
Woosh is limited to a broad swathe of Auckland at present. The company says it plans to expand around the country during 2004. Its near-future plans also feature a push into internet telephone, including a box you can jack your regular telephone into to make calls over the internet — in theory, eliminating the need to deal with a traditional telephone company (or voice call bills) ever again.
22-01-2004, 12:51 AM
I actually expected that online gaming wouldn't a stong point of mywireless. Although what I would want is a decent local gaming ping. The minute you go internation its a whole new game.
You have to remember becuase it's wireless there will be that initial lag between you and the tower and then between the tower and the isp.
Lets just hope for the best
..- dot dot dash ;)
22-01-2004, 06:47 AM
Well, I read somewhere the lag between durban and JHB is about 22ms, add another 30ms for good measure, and you have a decent local gaming ping.
As for nocap, try email@example.com for your questions. Basically, they'll route your game via a local proxy, so hopefully you'll see a drastic improvement in game pings, even if you're on a dial up (still have to test this, waiting for my test account)
I'm just looking for always-on internet without a cap and decent enough speeds, gaming is secondary :)
22-01-2004, 09:49 AM
But wireless local pings should be fine...But Int would be in the region of 780ms because they route int trafic via sat..correct me if i am wrong
We have tested no-cap services works great got in the are between 14-26KB/s when we tested. Great Work Jason man... But we are unfornaultly switching over to Mywireless....But i will reccomend it to any one who wants no CAP on their adsl
22-01-2004, 11:42 AM
well, you'd be able to use nocap for international gaming pings with your mywireless connection dude, hopefully it'll bring down the ping from 780 to something decent like 250
22-01-2004, 12:43 PM
well a local ping of 80-100 would be great enough for me. International ping might not be 780 or so. IS currently owns 155mbs of bandwidth, so it might not be going through satellite completely.
Mayb we can get them to set up that it routes games through the is backbone. That should be decent
..- dot dot dash ;)
22-01-2004, 01:29 PM
ye, but how would they know which games/ports or whatever? ProAsm dude? Is this possible?
freeek - Also, IS's bandwidth exceeds 155Mbps, by quite a bit I can imagine. Accordingly to their website, they exceeded 200Mbps this year, and what with this recent deal for an extra 155Mbps over the next three years (via optical cable to the UK w/ back to the East), I expect the MyWireless people to benefit from it, even it just a little bit.
However, having said that, the average latency there and back over a satellite connection is usually never below 400ms.
noone - think about how Telkom/SAIX do their port prioritisation. I guess they could probably adapt that to routing. But the real question is, WOULD they?
23-01-2004, 07:41 AM
If there's enough demand I figure they would... who knows, time will tell, but like I said, I'll use nocap for international pings if it doesnt work out.... i'll start a thread, haven't seen ProAsm post at all, and ask him the question... lets see ;)