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Gooku
25-01-2004, 01:10 PM
deregulation is the way to go,but unfortunately I do not think prices will come down easily nor quickly.

We have 3 mobile networks,7 car manufacturers,but real prices are still high compared to overseas.the difference is mere between a monopoly and oligopoly .I think RNO (regional network operator) might be the solution ,allow some small and innovative companies to join the competition.this is an effective way to create competition in pricing quickly.(SNO will take 10 years to undercut Telkom's pricing, if ever)

We need a revamp in national telecom policy.
Policy makers must understand that utill affordable Internet access reaches most households,there will be NO Internet economy nor successful E-commerce industry in South Africa. what a miss of opportunity!


High telecommunication costs are making SA businesses uncompetitive globally,We currently rank 42 in GCI index (global competitiveness index),if goverment want to reduce 37% unemplyment rate in our country,We have to improve our position in the ranking index.

Telecommunication price must be competitive and resonable.

Jerrek
25-01-2004, 11:10 PM
How about you break up Telkom into 4 regional companies, and then allow those companies to start building their own infrastructure in other regions? Then, separate local services with long distance services, as in North America, and allow anyone to start up a long distance carrier. For local services, you can go with Telkom, or the competition. It is sort of like what happened with Ma Bell. It got broken up into Pacific Bell, Verizon, Bell South, etc.

<font color="blue"><b>The clock is ticking................... <i>1,174 kb/s</i> - I brake for no one</b></font id="blue">
http://home.cogeco.ca/~johannj/net_stuff/cogeco.jpg

Gooku
27-01-2004, 10:52 AM
anti-trust legislations are rquired to break-up monopoly,Telkom will not voluntarily cut himself into 4 pcs,even it is for the benefit of all people.

We have competition commision to prevent corperate merger which leads to monopoly,but for monopoly already standing ,there is no law can touch them.

consumer unity is the last resort

ASF
03-02-2004, 02:23 PM
I agree with Gooku 100% - hit the nail right on the head!

mithrandi
04-02-2004, 11:25 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It is sort of like what happened with Ma Bell. It got broken up into Pacific Bell, Verizon, Bell South, etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Ma Bell didn't go down that easily; they still had to pass a bunch of new legislation to prevent the RBOCs from co-operating, and that sort of thing.

mithrandi, i Ainil en-Balandor, a faer Ambar

Jerrek
04-02-2004, 05:51 PM
But in the end it worked.

<font color="blue"><b>The clock is ticking................... <i>1,174 kb/s</i> - I brake for no one</b></font id="blue">
http://home.cogeco.ca/~johannj/net_stuff/cogeco.jpg

mithrandi
04-02-2004, 10:46 PM
I would rather not see that kind of regulatory interference. Deregulating the telecommunications sector completely would solve the problem in a far more natural way.

mithrandi, i Ainil en-Balandor, a faer Ambar

freeek
05-02-2004, 11:35 PM
i agree, they should allow any company to provide internet services. Why are wireless companies denied. They are the solution. There are no cables being installed, which destroy public property. Its just antena's.

..- dot dot dash ;)

caroper
06-02-2004, 12:00 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mithrandi</i>
<br />I would rather not see that kind of regulatory interference.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Why?
At this point in time the Regulator only interferes with anyone who tries to provide better technology, price or service.
ICASA is not a regulator it is a minder.

Cheers
Chris

ProAsm
06-02-2004, 12:30 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">There are no cables being installed, which destroy public property. Its just antena's<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That was their excuse in the beginning.
Someone has now introduced this new "Enviromental Study" crap which is making it impossible for Wireless companies to put up even the simplest antenna.
The hassels we are having in the Western Cape is unbelievable and it will no doubt stretch to the rest of the country in time.

pookfuzz
09-02-2004, 01:10 AM
Environmental Studies? I would assume that for a service of this type that has such a similar technology as cellular there would already exist Environmental Studies, after all I am pretty sure you will see cell towers in these areas.

On the flipside, if no such studies exist would you not have every right to demand Vodacom and MTN cease operation and dismantle any “potentially ecologicaly hazardous” equipment until such studies are done? I think you might find things happen a bit faster. ;)

Also would it not perhaps make sense to try share towers with the cellular guys? 3G is just the next step in the cellular technology roadmap so I would assume sharing a tower would not be too hard - I know being dependant on another company for infrastructure is not ideal, but if it means getting coverage in an area which might otherwise be logistically impossible its worth the headaches.

ProAsm
09-02-2004, 02:00 PM
The problem is the coverage area, most Cellphone towers are where the most <b>movement</b> of people are, we need coverage where people are <b>static</b>, ie.. residential.
Later on, when a mobile laptop culture is developed, these places will be utilized.

ratezone
04-08-2004, 02:37 PM
http://www.sno.co.za

martin
04-08-2004, 04:31 PM
Anybody making use of this?

http://www.sno.co.za/index.php?contentType=PRODUCT&category=HOME