Official Liverpool FC Supporters Thread

[Stickfigure]

Rooney is over rated! I am an England supporter and dread seeing his name on the starting lineup but then again who is better? He is the best of the mediocre bunch of english strikers. Chicarito on the other hand is a goal machine. Would rather have one of him than 5 Rooneys.

Rooney, like all good players, needs a solid midfielder behind him. Look at how he played when Cleverley was starting behind him, he couldn't stop scoring.


Agreed on Sturridge and Welbeck, they look quite promising and its definitely time to get rid of the oldies and try to build a decent team for the next World Cup.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2058040/Gary-Neville-Is-time-Fabio-Capello-generation.html

That's what Gary Neville has to say.

[Stevie G]

Agreed on Sturridge and Welbeck, they look quite promising and its definitely time to get rid of the oldies and try to build a decent team for the next World Cup.

yeah not like my a$$h0le

[Randhir]

yeah not like my a$$h0le

:erm:

[SinghDude]

stats for the blind and ignorant.....

may be old news but it holds true.....

3 cheers for the 2nd highest poster in this thread :whistle:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/sep/26/manchester-united-city-added-time?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/6217630/Manchester-United-get-more-stoppage-time-at-Old-Trafford-when-they-need-a-goal.html

[Randhir]

stats for the blind and ignorant.....

may be old news but it holds true.....

3 cheers for the 2nd highest poster in this thread :whistle:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/sep/26/manchester-united-city-added-time?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/6217630/Manchester-United-get-more-stoppage-time-at-Old-Trafford-when-they-need-a-goal.html

Thanks for the cheers. As I said before (if you bothered to read), those stats are meaningless, as both sides play in extra time, not just one.

Oh and by the way:


Two reports today reveal conflicting views, with one suggesting that United are actually less likely to receive additional playing time over the course of a Premier League season, but another suggesting that more time is likely to be added on at Old Trafford when United actually need it and are still chasing something from the game.


The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec.

But LFC is so rubbish that they can't score even with more average stoppage time. But of course that's United's fault :rolleyes:

I love that LFC fans think that because they hardly win anything (particularly in the recent past) it's United's fault. Maybe look at your players, and Benitez/Hodgson/Dalglish. All useless.

[fred1]

Rooney, like all good players, needs a solid midfielder behind him. Look at how he played when Cleverley was starting behind him, he couldn't stop



Has Rooney ever been a prolifant goalscorer? He had maybe 2 or 3 hot patches at most in his career. Played well in midfield the other day tho but not a natural goalscorer.

[Stickfigure]

Has Rooney ever been a prolifant goalscorer? He had maybe 2 or 3 hot patches at most in his career. Played well in midfield the other day tho but not a natural goalscorer.

When Ronaldo was at United, he was always second choice, got played outta position etc. First season after Ronaldo left he had 34 goals in all competitions before his season was cut short by injury. Only now is he being played in his preferred position.

[Stevie G]

Don't know why everyone always goes on about Rooney being ugly. He's a football player, not a fashion model. He's paid to kick a ball around, not look good. Besides despite his terrible looks, he's a better football player by far than any of Liverpool's players.

you cannot have someone like rooney being a role model. he looks like **** and will scare the **** out of kids. he has all the money in the world. why not go for a facial makeover. he scares the **** out of defenders (excuse the pun) does utd even have a good looking player in their team, don't think so

[fishfly]

you cannot have someone like rooney being a role model. he looks like **** and will scare the **** out of kids. he has all the money in the world. why not go for a facial makeover. he scares the **** out of defenders (excuse the pun) does utd even have a good looking player in their team, don't think so

Shame you must have been dropped on your head as you clearly can't see and make sense of anything

[smokey]

Footballers should not be role-models. Period.

[hawker]

Footballers should not be role-models. Period.

Yea but young kids still idolise their favourites! :)

[Stevie G]

thats why david beckham is famous today

[SinghDude]

thats why david beckham is famous today

he likes wearing his wifes panties.....

How many of his former team-mates share his fetish ?

[dbecks]

Been reading all these Posts and its amazing how everything goes back (with certain posters) to United and the Refs - Yet Liverpool couldnt even beat Swansea at home - all this talk of Liverpool on the up and up was delusional talk and now its hitting home and some psoters cant take it....

And when you point that out, they start attacking players Characters and looks....You guys make me laugh..:D

Swansea Swansea Swansea......:D

[SinghDude]

Been reading all these Posts and its amazing how everything goes back (with certain posters) to United and the Refs - Yet Liverpool couldnt even beat Swansea at home - all this talk of Liverpool on the up and up was delusional talk and now its hitting home and some psoters cant take it....

And when you point that out, they start attacking players Characters and looks....You guys make me laugh..:D

Swansea Swansea Swansea......:D


hell yeah...


Im still laughing at the 6-1 thrashing and the sight of an empty Old Trafford whilst the game was still on. Some real die hard fans......

[akescpt]

Been reading all these Posts and its amazing how everything goes back (with certain posters) to United and the Refs - Yet Liverpool couldnt even beat Swansea at home - all this talk of Liverpool on the up and up was delusional talk and now its hitting home and some psoters cant take it....

And when you point that out, they start attacking players Characters and looks....You guys make me laugh..:D

Swansea Swansea Swansea......:D

*yawn*

[Alan]

Put some effort into getting those stats for an interesting discussion but it's all been swamped by a manc invasion.

*sigh*

[Randhir]

Put some effort into getting those stats for an interesting discussion but it's all been swamped by a manc invasion.


An LFC supporter was the first one to bring up and disparage United. As usual LFC supporters spout nonsense.

[dbecks]

hell yeah...


Im still laughing at the 6-1 thrashing and the sight of an empty Old Trafford whilst the game was still on. Some real die hard fans......And here is confirmation:)

[dbecks]

An LFC supporter was the first one to bring up and disparage United. As usual LFC supporters spout nonsense.Exactly - Two specific posters (a LFC Midfielder and an Indian Dude) knows nothing else but to spout nonsense

But will not mention any names.....:D

[Stickfigure]

Put some effort into getting those stats for an interesting discussion but it's all been swamped by a manc invasion.

*sigh*

And the reds go marching ON ON ON!

[RexxGrim]

Honestly why still get upset about what other supporters post.

This team beat that team, look at our trophies, but we have more of that trophy, but we beat you last time out, your player slept with his grandma, but your manager sleeps with the referee, blah, blah, blah.

What is the point of recycling them everytime. I am all for banter and its part of what is fun about this forum, but put your back into it and try to atleast make it interesting.

Saying United's got the refs in their pockets and Liverpool is an overrated team with a bunch of average overpriced Englishman is just stating the facts and can't really be called banter. :p

[dbecks]

Honestly why still get upset about what other supporters post.

This team beat that team, look at our trophies, but we have more of that trophy, but we beat you last time out, your player slept with his grandma, but your manager sleeps with the referee, blah, blah, blah.

What is the point of recycling them everytime. I am all for banter and its part of what is fun about this forum, but put your back into it and try to atleast make it interesting.

Saying United's got the refs in their pockets and Liverpool is an overrated team with a bunch of average overpriced Englishman is just stating the facts and can't really be called banter. :pYou must be an Arsenal fan - shame man we understand.....:p

[smokey]

You must be an Arsenal fan - shame man we understand.....:p

What do you mean you "understand"? Your team is still winning trophies, I doubt you can understand them.

[Stevie G]

your player slept with his grandma fact
but your manager sleeps with the referee, blah, blah, blah. fact
:D

[SinghDude]

An LFC supporter was the first one to bring up and disparage United. As usual LFC supporters spout nonsense.


tsk.........grammar grammar grandma

[SinghDude]

And here is confirmation:)

Confirmation of a hammering.

[SinghDude]

Put some effort into getting those stats for an interesting discussion but it's all been swamped by a manc invasion.

*sigh*

Do some homework, Alan.

[dbecks]

What do you mean you "understand"? Your team is still winning trophies, I doubt you can understand them.Hahahaha

[dbecks]

Confirmation of a hammering.Confirmation that, that result means more to you than your Draw at home....U must remember that the 3 pts go to City and not to LFC.....:D

[droidx]

Confirmation that, that result means more to you than your Draw at home....U must remember that the 3 pts go to City and not to LFC.....:D

And they got spanked by Spurs :D
At the end of the season, it is very possible when we mention 1-6 we'll be talking about united and Liverpool's respective positions on the log :D

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[Randhir]

And they got spanked by Spurs :D
At the end of the season, it is very possible when we mention 1-6 we'll be talking about united and Liverpool's respective positions on the log :D


Liverpool 6th? They gonna have to improve. Arsenal catching up slowly but steadily, and already level on points after a horror start.

[Stickfigure]

United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs are all guaranteed to finish above Liverpool. Might as well throw in Newcastle as well.

I think the reason Newcastle are doing so well is because they don't have Andy Carrol anymore :D

[hugo69er]

United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs are all guaranteed to finish above Liverpool. Might as well throw in Newcastle as well.

I think the reason Newcastle are doing so well is because they don't have Andy Carrol anymore :D


Im all for Liverpool, unfortunately i agree with everything you've said..



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[dbecks]

United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs are all guaranteed to finish above Liverpool. Might as well throw in Newcastle as well.

I think the reason Newcastle are doing so well is because they don't have Andy Carrol anymore :DIts like untying a Helium Balloon from a rock and the Balloon rises

But then you take that rock and sell it to another rock....:D

[fred1]

I think the reason Newcastle are doing so well is because they don't have Andy Carrol anymore :D

Haha, think you onto something there.

[Stevie G]

he's onto BS as usual

[RexxGrim]

Its like untying a Helium Balloon from a rock and the Balloon rises

But then you take that rock and sell it to another rock....:D

Deep shlt man, deep shlt.

:D

[dbecks]

Deep shlt man, deep shlt.

:DHahahahaha...:D - Enlightenment

[Randhir]

Liverpool's Kenny Dalglish attacks 'disgraceful' fixture scheduling (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/10/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-fixture-scheduling)


Kenny Dalglish has branded the decision to schedule Liverpool's Carling Cup quarter-final at Chelsea just 48 hours after his team confront Manchester City at Anfield as "disgraceful".

The Liverpool manager admitted he may be forced to field an under-strength team for the match at Stamford Bridge on 29 November and has even urged supporters to bear that in mind before purchasing tickets for the midweek game.

"It is disgraceful in this day and age that players are being asked to play a key Premier League game and then a League Cup quarter-final in London just 48 hours later," said Dalglish. "It's understandable with the Spurs v PAOK Salonika match and the TUC rally that the Met police have said that our game cannot be played on the Wednesday. But it's surely the duty of the football authorities to think of other solutions which consider the welfare of the players and this clearly hasn't happened.

"Manchester City are in a similar position to us with their game at Arsenal and it's for them to argue their case, but it is my job to stand up for the interests of Liverpool Football Club. Here you have two clubs who have treated this competition with utmost respect over the years and they are being treated like this.

"It seems totally irresponsible as well that the quarter-finals are scheduled in the same week as Europa League games. If Stoke had beaten us in the last round and were through to face Chelsea then the tie gets rescheduled for another date – it's as simple as that. But when we ask the Football League to move our game to a later date, we're told it's impossible.

"Where's the logic in that? What would have happened if all four of the English clubs playing in the Europa League had got through to the quarter-finals? If the Football League want to devalue their own competition, that's up to them, but they shouldn't then be upset if people use these games to help in the development of young players."

Dalglish has indicated that the club's managing director, Ian Ayre, consulted with the Premier League to explore whether the quarter-final could be put back until the Saturday, an arrangement which would have suited City.

"But, again, we are told by the Premier League that this is not possible either for TV reasons and just to get on with it," said Dalglish. "Ian Ayre specifically consulted with the Premier League who had some discussion with Sky, but neither were able to accommodate our position.

"The one thing I will say to our fans is to think carefully before buying tickets for the League Cup game because we do not want them spending their money and then we decide there is no other option but to use only young players in the tie."


Good man.

[hawker]

Liverpool's Kenny Dalglish attacks 'disgraceful' fixture scheduling (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/10/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-fixture-scheduling)



Good man.

+1

It is really ridiculous.

[SinghDude]

Uruguay striker Luis Suarez scored all four goals as the Copa America holders crushed Chile 4-0 on Friday to stay top of the South American 2014 World Cup qualifying group.

Suarez scored twice in each half, his goals spanning a 30-minute period in which Uruguay devastated Chile, who went into the match following coach Claudio Borghi's dismissal of five of his players for indiscipline in midweek.

Chile were also weakened by the last-minute withdrawal of key player Alexis Sanchez, who aggravated a right biceps problem during the warm-up. Sanchez had been out for almost two months with the injury.

Suarez was substituted soon after his final goal to resounding cheers from the crowd of more than 40 000 at the Centenario stadium, and watched the rest of the game from the bench with the match ball under his arm.

"(I scored four goals) just once or twice at Ajax but it's the first time for the national team and I'm very happy," Suarez told reporters.

"What's important is that the team won well. It doesn't matter who gets the goals," said Suarez, who helped Uruguay make light of the absence of fellow forward Diego Forlan.

Uruguay lead the nine-nation group with seven points from three matches after last month's home 4-2 win over Bolivia and 1-1 draw at Paraguay. Chile, with three points, had previously lost 4-1 in Argentina and beaten Peru 4-2 at home.

FOUR-GOAL SPREE

Chile goalkeeper Claudio Bravo tried to separate the midweek incident in Santiago, when five players returned late after drinking on a free evening, from the rout in Montevideo.

"What happened in the week has nothing to do with this. That's a closed chapter. We didn't play as we should have done," he told Chilean TV station Chilevision.

Both sides attacked from the start creating and had a string of chances but Chile left themselves dangerously open at the back.

Chile could have taken the lead after a quarter of an hour when Humberto Suazo brilliantly fed fellow forward Eduardo Vargas but Uruguay goalkeeper Fernando Muslera cleared with his feet.

Suarez struck in the 42nd minute when he slotted home a pass from midfielder Egidio Arevalo Rios and made it two before the interval when he appeared to net the ball with his shoulder.

Chile had a goal disallowed for offside early in the second half and the wind went out of their sails.

Suarez completed his hat-trick with a header from Alvaro Pereira's cross in the 67th minute and soon after rounded off the scoring with a rasping shot from the edge of the box.

Uruguay defender Diego Godin denied Chile a consolation goal when he cleared Mauricio Isla's shot off the line in added time.

The South American champions have a bye on Tuesday which will give other teams a chance to catch up with them in the standings in four more qualifiers. Uruguay play Italy in a friendly in Rome.

© Reuters
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[Stickfigure]

FA charges Suarez over Evra complaint


Liverpool forward Luis Suarez has been charged by the FA in relation to the accusations of racism from Manchester United defender Patrice Evra on October 15.

Evra made the allegation in an interview with French television channel Canal+ following the 1-1 draw between the two sides at Old Trafford. He said: "There are cameras, and you can see him [Suarez] say a certain word to me at least ten times. No place for that in 2011. The referee is aware of what was said."

The United defender reported the incident to referee Andre Marriner after the final whistle and maintained that he wanted to pursue the complaint, while a Liverpool spokesman said that Suarez "categorically denied'' the allegation.

However, after saying they would investigate the allegations, an FA statement read on Wednesday: ''The FA has today charged Liverpool's Luis Suarez following an incident that occurred during the Liverpool versus Manchester United fixture at Anfield on 15 October 2011. It is alleged that Suarez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United's Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules.

''It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra. The FA will issue no further comment at this time.''

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/984472/fa-charges-suarez-over-evra-racism-complaint?cc=3888

[hawker]

Liverpool forward Luis Suarez has been charged by the FA in relation to the accusations of racism from Manchester United defender Patrice Evra on October 15.

Evra made the allegation in an interview with French television channel Canal+ following the 1-1 draw between the two sides at Old Trafford. He said: "There are cameras, and you can see him [Suarez] say a certain word to me at least ten times. No place for that in 2011. The referee is aware of what was said."

The United defender reported the incident to referee Andre Marriner after the final whistle and maintained that he wanted to pursue the complaint, while a Liverpool spokesman said that Suarez "categorically denied'' the allegation.

However, after saying they would investigate the allegations, an FA statement read on Wednesday: ''The FA has today charged Liverpool's Luis Suarez following an incident that occurred during the Liverpool versus Manchester United fixture at Anfield on 15 October 2011. It is alleged that Suarez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United's Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules.

''It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra. The FA will issue no further comment at this time.''

Nothing new here.

[Randhir]

Nothing new here.

Yes there is. Suarez gave a statement in Uruguay apparently, saying that he just called Evra what some of his team mates call him.

[hawker]

Yes there is. Suarez gave a statement in Uruguay apparently, saying that he just called Evra what some of his team mates call him.

Apparently again. Apparently what he called evra in Spanish means mate or pal, but in English is offensive. Lets just wait and see what the outcome of the investigation is. We can speculate till we are blue in the face.

Why hasn't john Terry been charged yet then?

Anyone else hear Deposit Blatters most recent comments with respect to racism? Absolutely disgusting.

[Randhir]

Apparently again. Apparently what he called evra in Spanish means mate or pal, but in English is offensive.

Too bad he was playing in England at the time.

As for Blatter. Less said the better.

[Alan]

Apparently again. Apparently what he called evra in Spanish means mate or pal, but in English is offensive. Lets just wait and see what the outcome of the investigation is. We can speculate till we are blue in the face.

So what is the word? Evra should have just called him a D..... and be done with it lol

[SinghDude]

Yeah, Evra is a dooooooooos

[hawker]

So what is the word? Evra should have just called him a D..... and be done with it lol

No one really knows what was said apart from Saurez and Evra.

[dbecks]

I think its okay to not like a certain race

[hawker]

I think Evra would be d00s no matter what race he is.

[SinghDude]

......and in other news...:whistle:

Gerrard haunted by failure


Steven Gerrard admits he is haunted by the fact he has never been able to win the Premier League.

The 31-year-old has tasted just about every success you can as a player with Liverpool winning the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup, FA Cup and Carling Cup.

But the title medal remains nothing more than a dream at this point, and Gerrard admits that troubles him.

"It's something I think about almost every day," he said. "I always think about the dream of winning it - or the disappointment if I was never to win it.
Awful shame

"Of course, it would be hugely disappointing if it didn't happen. To have played at Liverpool for what will, hopefully, be 14 or 15 years by the time I finish and not win it would be hugely disappointing.

"It would be an awful shame. But it won't be for a lack of trying.

"With the squad we have now, if we can keep improving and progressing and adding to it in the next few years, I think we'll have a really good chance of becoming champions.

"But I've played in an era where there have been three, four or five top teams in the league.

"When Liverpool dominated, they were so good they often turned it into a one-horse race right from the start of the season.


"In my time, we've been fighting with Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, and now Manchester City and Spurs. They have all been, or are, fantastic teams. It's a really difficult competition to win, but we'll always keep fighting."
Title dream

Gerrard, who is recovering from an ankle infection, insists that he has not given up on his title dream and he still feels Liverpool can make a challenge again.

"It was great to see so many players come in," he said.

"It wasn't just during the summer either. There was also Luis (Suarez) and Andy (Carroll), who still feel like new signings because they came halfway through last season.

"Since then, we've added Charlie Adam, Jordan Henderson, Craig Bellamy, Stewart Downing and Sebastian Coates. The majority of them are strong British lads, who know the league well. They've also got quality.

"The squad is looking stronger - probably the strongest we've had for a long time. Now it's all about delivering.

"The tools are all there. Now we need to work hard, focus on each game and try to build on what we've shown over the last 20 or so games.

"At Liverpool, your standards have got to be so high every single week. You have to perform every time.

"That's what I've had to do every year and that's what the new lads are coming to terms with."

[Alan]

If somebody dare calls me a cracker on the field I'll, I'll....


er do nothing actually.

[SinghDude]

polly wanna cracker

[akescpt]

Excellent hawker.lol.

[Stickfigure]

......and in other news...:whistle:

Gerrard haunted by failure

Never has, never will :)

[dbecks]

Never has, never will :)He will retire knowing that Darren Gibson has more EPL medals than him...:D

[SinghDude]

He will retire knowing that Darren Gibson has more EPL medals than him...:D

Gibson aint good enough to shine Gerrard's boots.

[dbecks]

Gibson aint good enough to shine Gerrard's boots.But he got an EPL medal....hehehe

[fishfly]

But he got an EPL medal....hehehe


Ya for someone so crap to have more medals :D

[RexxGrim]

I don't get it. Who is Darren Gibson and why did they give him a medal?

[dbecks]

I don't get it. Who is Darren Gibson and why did they give him a medal?He is the guy that has more EPL medals than Gerrard and Fabregas.....:D

[fishfly]

I don't get it. Who is Darren Gibson and why did they give him a medal?

Cos he ran around the pitch in a couple of matches so he got a medal

[Stickfigure]

Cos he ran around the pitch in a couple of matches so he got a medal

Nah... It's cos he plays for the superior team :)

[RexxGrim]

He is the guy that has more EPL medals than Gerrard and Fabregas.....:D

I must say as an Arsenal fan it really stings that Larry Gibson has won more EPL medals than an Barcelona Midfielder. :confused:

[Randhir]

I must say as an Arsenal fan it really stings that Larry Gibson has won more EPL medals than an ex-Arsenal captain. :confused:

Fixed :D

[MickeyD]

Team:

Reina
Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique
Kuyt, Lucas, Bellamy, Adam, Maxi
Suarez

[greg0205]

Team:

Reina
Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique
Kuyt, Lucas, Bellamy, Adam, Maxi
Suarez

And Batman, Chelsea's new signing in their goal. :D

And while I'm typing MAXI! Whoop whoop!

[kat06sa]

Wasn't pretty, but job done. Next up, City :erm:

[hawker]

Maxi showed today why I really needs to play more :D

Great win, wasn't pretty. But a win away from home against Chelsea (AGAIN :P ) i'm a happy LFC fan today.

What's the bet Chelsea going to buy Maxi and Johnson now that they've scored against them? :D

[greg0205]

Wasn't pretty, but job done. Next up, City :erm:

And back Stamford Bridge two days later... I actually can't wait for the City game.

[akescpt]

3 points. BOOM!

[hawker]

Now if only we can start winning our home games!

9 games unbeaten now!

[akescpt]

Now if only we can start winning our home games!

9 games unbeaten now!

You add that 4 points dropped and we would be third I think!

[greg0205]

You add that 4 points dropped and we would be third I think!

Yep, 1 point ahead of Newcastle... Damn! Pool, Chelsea, Spurs and the Gunners all on 22 now.

[hawker]

I really really hope Maxi gets more game time.

[Stickfigure]

Wasn't pretty, but job done. Next up, City :erm:

Next weekend will be the only time I ever support Pool.

[Alan]

Were fortunate in the end. My spirits lifted when I saw the teamsheet.

Fantastic 1st half and an awful 2nd half. Could have conceded 2 or 3 after the break but in the end a great goal from Johnson.

[hawker]

Were fortunate in the end. My spirits lifted when I saw the teamsheet.

Fantastic 1st half and an awful 2nd half. Could have conceded 2 or 3 after the break but in the end a great goal from Johnson.

I was bouncing around the room when I saw the team news. Maxi and Bellamy both starting! Couldn't believe my eyes! Agree second half was poor, we can't seem to string 2 good halves of football together.

[SinghDude]

Was a scrappy affair. Poor defensive error gifted us a goal....same could be said off the Chelsea equalizer. Game was decided by brilliance from Johnson.....


L'Pool had a horrid 2nd half and a point would have been fair on both teams. Excellent 3points...... Bring on Citeh.

[Stevie G]

great win, although scrappy. 3 points is all that counts now. must say that both defense looks weak. we really need a hard man in the middle. adam had a great game besides his fault for chelsea's equaliser. i would rather have johnson on the right then kuyt and then kelly at right back. we will have more balance on the right. as i said last week we know that we perform against the big teams and get the result. will be interesting how we fair against the best team by far in the league this week.

[superskully]

Did LFC have a more expensive bench than Chelsea.
Good to see KK making the hard decisions, now he should leave the transfer market to Commolli.

[hawker]

great win, although scrappy. 3 points is all that counts now. must say that both defense looks weak. we really need a hard man in the middle. adam had a great game besides his fault for chelsea's equaliser. i would rather have johnson on the right then kuyt and then kelly at right back. we will have more balance on the right. as i said last week we know that we perform against the big teams and get the result. will be interesting how we fair against the best team by far in the league this week.

How was Adam at fault for their equaliser? If anyone is at fault it's Enrique for sloppy marking.

To be fair Adam was the catalyst for both goals - dispossession of the ball from Mikel and the sublime raking pass to Johnson.

[Alan]

Need more of the same from the first half of the last game for City on Sunday. That is the way LFC must play. Get up in the face of opposition and harass. Great to watch.

For the first goal there were six, yes SIX!!!!!!!! red players in the opposition half. That's unheard off even against minnows. Adam shot forward from the half way line to dispossess Mikel. Normally he'd be backtracking frantically in the opposite direction even if the opposition was Swansea.

However if the team approaches the game like they did in the 2nd half it will be a thrashing but I doubt that will happen. LFC approach these games with a "nothing to lose attitude" and hence get the results. They leave the fear and passive deep defensive approach for the minnows.

[hugo69er]

Looks like its gonna be a tough game! Probably play defending tactics the whole game....

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[MickeyD]

2 changes from last week... Bellamy requested to sit out due to Gary Speed's death and Maxi, probably to do with the balance of the team without Bellamy. In come Downing and Henderson.

[kat06sa]

Liverpool playing with confidence. Let's see what the 2nd half brings.

[hugo69er]

Looks like its gonna be a tough game! Probably play defending tactics the whole game....

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Looks like i was wrong:) well played Liverpool!! we should have won!! the way man city were celebrating at the end was like they won the champions league or something :-p hahaha!!

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[B@rrels]

What an eggcelent performance against the league leaders!!Well played by the whole team.Reina looking to play in midfield sometimes!!

[greg0205]

How many saves did Heart make in that second half? Great game 'tho... Felt like a basketball game at times with both teams on a shot-clock.

[MickeyD]

Both keepers had great games - Hart pulled off some brilliant saves, while Reina saved his defence for their errors!!

[superskully]

Just hard to see sometimes, should have hammered both Manc teams, just not taking our chsnces.
We just have too many weaknesses, henderson, caroll, and poor very poor finishing from Downing.

[Stickfigure]

Good game. Pool's goal was a fluke but they played very well in the second half.

Hart pulled off some fine saves.

Oh well now that City is over, I expect Pool to lose against some of the bottom teams. Always happens.

[MickeyD]

Oh well now that City is over, I expect Pool to lose against some of the bottom teams. Always happens.
Sadly that is so fscking true!!!! :(

[greg0205]

Sadly that is so fscking true!!!! :(

Then don't look now... After Chelsea in the Carling Cup on Tuesday it's Fulham (15th on the log), then mid-table QPR (11th) and Villa (8th), then bottom Wigan (19th) and Blackburn (20th)

[MickeyD]

Then don't look now... After Chelsea in the Carling Cup on Tuesday it's Fulham (15th on the log), then mid-table QPR (11th) and Villa (8th), then bottom Wigan (19th) and Blackburn (20th)

15 points for the taking!! :p

[greg0205]

15 points for the taking!! :p

:D

[greg0205]

One of the comments on the Telegraph's match report just made me laugh... And I quote: "Some teams get thrashed 1-6 by City, others are hard done by with a 1-1 draw."

[abzo]

Bellamy requested to sit out due to Gary Kelly's death

Wtf? Gary Kelly died? The one from Leeds? When? Can't find anything on the web about that.

[MickeyD]

Wtf? Gary Kelly died? The one from Leeds? When? Can't find anything on the web about that.
Oops.. Gary Speed!!! My apologies.

http://www.supersport.com/football/barclays-premier-league/news/111127/Distraught_Bellamy_rested_for_City_tie

[Spizz]

Wtf? Gary Kelly died? The one from Leeds? When? Can't find anything on the web about that.

Gary Speed.

[greg0205]

Wtf? Gary Kelly died? The one from Leeds? When? Can't find anything on the web about that.

Nope... Gary Speed. Bellamy asked to be taken out of the squad today 'cos of Gary Speed's death.

[Randhir]

Brilliant game to watch. I can't help but feel that if Maxi was playing instead of Henderson, Pool would've taken all three points. Lucas was immense today (was he MOM?).

What is the point of Henderson, anyone?

[hawker]

Brilliant game to watch. I can't help but feel that if Maxi was playing instead of Henderson, Pool would've taken all three points. Lucas was immense today (was he MOM?).

What is the point of Henderson, anyone?

Lucas was immense today yes. Completely destroyed Yaya Toure.

As for Maxi? Your guess is as good as mine. Really don't know what he has to do to be picked :/

[SinghDude]

Lucas is the best DM in the league by far.... probably in the world :)

[hawker]

Lucas is the best DM in the league by far.... probably in the world :)

Agree. Lucas is class.


Stats @LucasLeiva87 : Pass Accuracy: 92.2% Tackle Win: 100% (7/7) Ground Duel Won: 81% (13/16) Aerial Duels Won: 100% (4/4) #fb WOW


For all the naysayers: @LucasLeiva87 Pass direction: Forwards: 64% Backwards: 4% Left: 3% Right: 29% Passed BACKWARDS the least today! #fb


More for @LucasLeiva87 Possession won in Defence: 2 Possession won in Midfield: 6 Interceptions: 6 Total possession won: 14 #turnover #fb



His stats were phenomenal today. You know who else was immense today? Agger.

Daniel Agger Stats: 81% Pass Accuracy 100% Tackles Won 100% Ground Duels Won 100% Aerial Duels Won #Perfect #fb

[Stickfigure]

You know who else was immense today? Agger.

Not surprised. City's problem today was they played too much from the wings with a small frontline. With the exception of their defenders and Toure, the rest were all small. That's why I thought Dzeko and Balotelli would've started.

[SinghDude]

Credit to Daglish for getting the best from limited resources.... For all that dough City spent they were run off the turf by a hard-working L'Pool team. 'Pool was brilliant and unlucky not to have taken the 3 point on offer.

[hawker]

Not surprised. City's problem today was they played too much from the wings with a small frontline. With the exception of their defenders and Toure, the rest were all small. That's why I thought Dzeko and Balotelli would've started.

I think if Balotelli and Dzeko had started we would've been under more pressure.

[hawker]

Credit to Daglish for getting the best from limited resources.... For all that dough City spent they were run off the turf by a hard-working L'Pool team. 'Pool was brilliant and unlucky not to have taken the 3 point on offer.

Limited resources?! The only player we have missing is Gerrard. Dalglish has had more than enough cash, he just spent it on stupid transfers (Downing).

[Randhir]

Credit to Daglish for getting the best from limited resources....

HHHHhahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[Randhir]

(Downing).

Henderson
Carroll
Adam (has had a decent two weeks but apart from that has been immobile.)

[hawker]

Henderson
Carroll
Adam (has had a decent two weeks but apart from that has been immobile.)

Henderson isn't that bad a player, I'm willing to give him time he hardly ever gives the ball away and makes good passes.
Not going to comment on Carroll, thats been discussed ad-nauseum.
Adam doesn't have the best mobility but thats not his job in the team.


Nice Mail On Henderson's Strengths
As a Sunderland supporter, I have watched Jordan Henderson play week-in week-out for the past couple of seasons. Although not baffled by all of this criticism of the transfer fee, I feel that I must make a couple of points about a player who I feel can be a real asset to Liverpool. I get the feeling that many people don't really know what he does, which is hardly surprising given the pathetic amount of air time afforded to us by Match of The Day every week. After the world cup, many of us began to really notice the sheer lack of technical talent in the England set-up. By this, I'm not talking about crossing or shooting ability, I'm talking about close control, quick passing and most importantly of all, tactical awareness. Jordan has these traits in abundance and, far from comparing him to the likes of the great Xavi and Iniesta, his approach to the game is very much as a team member rather than as a maverick. He won't drive through the middle of the park and smash a last-minute cup final half volley into the corner when he's got cramp, but what he will do is keep the game ticking over and, when the chance presents itself, show that he knows how to whip in a dangerous cross or play a nicely weighted through ball.

Of course, this style of play won't make him a fan favourite, and his popularity in Sunderland was partly due to his local roots. Sometimes, there were groans from the fans when he passed the ball backwards or sideways, but those of us watching more closely could see that he was simply playing patient, intelligent football. His touch in tight situations is excellent and he always seems to find a one-two or a small gap to get the ball through to a team-mate. It struck me during the England game this week that some of our players aren't remotely willing to receive the ball when closely marked, but Jordan will. It's exactly what the England team is lacking, and the reason we've heard so much since last summer about non-competitive football for kids in order to teach them how to play the game 3 or 4 steps ahead, like the boys at Barcelona do. For me, the problem with this style of play is that you are only as good as the players around you. We all know that Barca excel due to the fact that each and every player is comfortable on the ball. Unfortunately for Henderson, there have been times this season when some of his team mates haven't been on the same page as him, but I would imagine that he'll settle in nicely in a very talented Liverpool midfield.

[Stickfigure]

Sounds like the next Carrick then :)

[hawker]

Sounds like the next Carrick then :)

I really like what I've seen of him, and he scored a cracker of a goal against Bolton. He also set up both goals in the league cup against Exeter.

He plays well when he plays down the middle, but when KD sticks him out on the right he fades out of the game -> simply because he isn't the kind of player that would play there. He also passes well, and can receive the ball even when very tightly marked and move it along to a teammate.

[poolmania]

Lucas. That is all.

[Randhir]

Henderson isn't that bad a player, I'm willing to give him time he hardly ever gives the ball away and makes good passes.

Regarding Henderson, maybe you're right, but if Dalglish keeps playing him on the wings then you can't blame anyone for not seeing why he was bought.

[Alan]

Lucas. That is all.

Yes he was immense. The diamond of Reina, Skrtel, Agger and Lucas was brick wall.

But the big test still awaits. Got games against minnows coming up. Typically LFC have outplayed all the top teams yet find themselves 6th because they can't perform against those at the bottom

[hawker]

Yes he was immense. The diamond of Reina, Skrtel, Agger and Lucas was brick wall.

But the big test still awaits. Got games against minnows coming up. Typically LFC have outplayed all the top teams yet find themselves 6th because they can't perform against those at the bottom

+1

Really need to hammer these smaller teams. In way the next 5/6 games are a bigger test for Liverpool then Chelsea/Man City.

Unbeaten in 7 now :D

[SinghDude]

L'Pool have been great defensively this season. Problem is scoring goals..... and unfortunatelly it seems that even Daglish has lost faith in Carroll.

Suarez can't do it all himself. Maybe Gerrard coming back will ignite some spark into a largely defensive minded team.
Kinda reminds me of Rafa's tenure playing in Europe.... trying to keep things very tight....and afraid to take the game to the opposition.

[hawker]

L'Pool have been great defensively this season. Problem is scoring goals..... and unfortunatelly it seems that even Daglish has lost faith in Carroll.

Suarez can't do it all himself. Maybe Gerrard coming back will ignite some spark into a largely defensive minded team.
Kinda reminds me of Rafa's tenure playing in Europe.... trying to keep things very tight....and afraid to take the game to the opposition.

Saurez hasn't scored for a while.

[Alan]

Saurez hasn't scored for a while.

Yet he's still the top scorer in the Prem with 4 goals. Double that of Carrol/Adam with 2 and nobody else more than 1.To put that into perspective John Terry has scored 4 goals :o

But yeah Dalglish's tactics have been a mirror image of Rafa's in many ways. Far too defensive and too afraid to go for the win. But that's LFC since the days of Houllier.

[hawker]

Yet he's still the top scorer in the Prem with 4 goals. Double that of Carrol/Adam with 2 and nobody else more than 1.To put that into perspective John Terry has scored 4 goals :o

But yeah Dalglish's tactics have been a mirror image of Rafa's in many ways. Far too defensive and too afraid to go for the win. But that's LFC since the days of Houllier.

Oh well, I hope we hit a serious goal trail soon!

[Stevie G]

any hd or good quality stream links guys for our game vs chelsea?

[hugo69er]

I didnt see the penalty. Pool obviously wanted to give Carol a chance to score an easy goal but he failed... Sad...

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[MickeyD]

I didnt see the penalty. Pool obviously wanted to give Carol a chance to score an easy goal but he failed... Sad...
Alex handled the ball while competing in the air with Carroll... debatable but correct decision in the end. Pathetic spotkick from Carroll.

[greg0205]

Alex handled the ball while competing in the air with Carroll... debatable but correct decision in the end. Pathetic spotkick from Carroll.

I think we've had four different players take penalties this season... Converted one out of four. Double damn!

EDIT: I really, really, really hope this doesn't go to a penalty shootout.

DOUBLE EDIT: Good goal by Maxi from a great pass by Henderson and run from Bellamy. :D

TRIPLE EDIT: Kelly you beauty! Also mention to Bellamy... again.

[hugo69er]

I think we've had four different players take penalties this season... Converted one out of four. Double damn!

EDIT: I really, really, really hope this doesn't go to a penalty shootout.

DOUBLE EDIT: Good goal by Maxi from a great pass by Henderson and run from Bellamy. :D

TRIPLE EDIT: Kelly you beauty! Also mention to Bellamy... again.

WOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Maxi scored his 10th goal in 9 starts

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[greg0205]

I feel for AVB... Just kidding :D
Great game by the 21 year olds, Kelly and Coates. Hope Lucas is okay 'tho.

[MickeyD]

Yeah baby!!!! Dalglish has yet to lose a game to Chelsea as Liverpool manager (13 games).

[hawker]

What a game!

Hope Lucas is ok :/ we really going to miss him if he is out for a while :(

Liverpool 2 - 0 Chelsea :D

AVB is going to be unemployed soon. Carroll is useless! :P

Our Right Full Backs seem to like sticking the ball in the back of Chelsea's net :love: Kelly was awesome, especially when he kissed the badge!

I think Coates was immense, give that boy/man a Bells!

Torres must feel like such a douche, everytime LFC plays Chelsea he plays and his team get beaten.

[SinghDude]

"methinks Torres misses Anfield already.

Lol...... Daglish should throw in an offer to take El Nino back.


It will be fun having Torres and Saurez.

[stevengzn]

Dalglish 13-0 against Chelsea! Brilliant!

Wonder how long until Chelsea come knocking for Maxi and Lucas!! haha

[SinghDude]

Maxi is a typical Argentine. He might not have pace but he makes up with his brilliant football brain.

[superskully]

Maxi is a typical Argentine. He might not have pace but he makes up with his brilliant football brain.
I am not a big fan of Maxi, but he gets in good positions and know how to put the ball in the net.
We need that in the league.

[nivek]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&q=everton+club+shop+liverpool+one&oq=everton+club+shop+liverpool+one&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=6727l11094l0l11460l14l14l0l11l11l0l350l868l 2-2.1l3l0&mvs=0
lol
nicely played by everton

[kat06sa]

I am not a big fan of Maxi, but he gets in good positions and know how to put the ball in the net.
We need that in the league.

+1

He can't really play as a winger/left midfield. His positioning is good, but when he has the ball, he never looks forward to take on the defender. (He tried it once, and failed dismally with what was the worst samba attempt I've ever seen) He'd rather pass it backwards.

But at the end of the day, he was always sitting in the box when needed to finish our counter attacks.

Lucas to have a scan on that knee today. Hope it isn't too serious.

[hawker]

Apparently the reason all the Chelsea supporters were streaming out of the stadium last night was to go buy the new Man City jersey!

[SinghDude]

Apparently the reason all the Chelsea supporters were streaming out of the stadium last night was to go buy the new Man City jersey!


Superficial bunch....plastic supporters who only support a winning team....no real pride or passion associated with the team.

The scousers can teach these bunch on what support is all about....

even if it means waiting an eternity for a trophy :(

[Stickfigure]

The scousers can teach these bunch on what support is all about....

Think it has more to do with the scousers being idiots than passionate supporters :p

[SinghDude]

Think it has more to do with the scousers being idiots than passionate supporters :p

:erm:

[greg0205]

Superficial bunch....plastic supporters who only support a winning team....no real pride or passion associated with the team.

The scousers can teach these bunch on what support is all about....

even if it means waiting an eternity for a trophy :(

Amen to that... That'll be Chelsea and United fans walking out of home games this season.

EDIT: Forgot to say I loved hawker's last post :D

[SinghDude]

Amen to that... That'll be Chelsea and United fans walking out of home games this season.


Even after the 4-0 drubbing by Spurs ( albeit having 9 men) .....crowd was still around cheering....:D

[hawker]

Think it has more to do with the scousers being idiots than passionate supporters :p

Chelsea fans booing players getting stretchered off? Chelsea fans leaving early?

The LFC fans sang "There is only one Gary Speed" - different kind of class.



Even after the 4-0 drubbing by Spurs ( albeit having 9 men) .....crowd was still around cheering....:D

Weren't they singing, "We still going to win 5-4!" ? :D

I love my football team :love: even if they do frustrate me!

[greg0205]

Even after the 4-0 drubbing by Spurs ( albeit having 9 men) .....crowd was still around cheering....:D

True that.

[greg0205]

Chelsea fans booing players getting stretchered off? Chelsea fans leaving early?

The LFC fans sang "There is only one Gary Speed" - different kind of class.

Can I get another Amen for that.

[SinghDude]

Can I get another Amen for that.


^

eventhough he was a ex- Blue.

Also the -more-than-a-minute-silence for Brad Jones kid was exemplary

[Stickfigure]

Even after the 4-0 drubbing by Spurs ( albeit having 9 men) .....crowd was still around cheering....:D

Like I said... ;)

[SinghDude]

Like I said... ;)

Yup....


idiots will be the one's leaving quick to get the first tram home

[hawker]

Like I said... ;)

Support your team win or lose, not just when things are going well.

Not something I'd expect a Man Utd/Chelsea/Man City fan to understand.

[Stickfigure]

You guys do realise I am just playing around.

But I agree, the passion the Liverpool supporters have is amazing. Especially seeing, as you said, you haven't won anything in a while and haven't been in the CL for the past few seasons as well.

Every club has their superficial supporters, Liverpool included.

But they don't bother me really, just as long as I'm supporting my club through thick and thin :)

[Randhir]

@hawker - please, think with your brain. There are different types of supporters that all clubs have. You wanna talk about class? Should I post the various BS the Liverpool 'class' supporters have got up to over the years? Or should you just accept that there are idiot supporters and proper supporters in all team's fanbases?

[dbecks]

@hawker - please, think with your brain. There are different types of supporters that all clubs have. You wanna talk about class? Should I post the various BS the Liverpool 'class' supporters have got up to over the years? Or should you just accept that there are idiot supporters and proper supporters in all team's fanbases?Exactly!

[superskully]

Maxi - But at the end of the day, he was always sitting in the box when needed to finish our counter attacks.


Think defenders dont see him as a threat, so he sneaks into the 6-yard box freely.

[hawker]

@hawker - please, think with your brain. There are different types of supporters that all clubs have. You wanna talk about class? Should I post the various BS the Liverpool 'class' supporters have got up to over the years? Or should you just accept that there are idiot supporters and proper supporters in all team's fanbases?

I was talking about the supporters at last nights game.

Yes all clubs have idiots supporters. We've been through this before - and you brought up Alan Smith and bla bla bla.

[greg0205]

So, City away on the 9th and home on the 23rd of Jan in the semi-final... Palace and Cardiff City in the other semi.

[kat06sa]

So, City away on the 9th and home on the 23rd of Jan in the semi-final... Palace and Cardiff City in the other semi.

oi. :(

Going to be tough, even if City field a weakened team. They just have so many quality players.

[R13...]

oi. :(

Going to be tough, even if City field a weakened team. They just have so many quality players.
Their reserves were pushed all the way by the arsenal younglings. Mancini won't field a weakened team again. Doubt Liverpool will anyway.

[Stevie G]

yip, we not playing in Europe, so no reason to field a weakened team anyway.

[poolmania]

Lucas out for the rest of the season with cruciate ligament damage. Huge blow.

[Alan]

Lucas out for the rest of the season with cruciate ligament damage. Huge blow.

Damn. Hopefully the owners will spend big in Jan on an experienced quality midfielder.

[SinghDude]

Damn. Hopefully the owners will spend big in Jan on an experienced quality midfielder.


Gerrard will be a new signing..... nobody else is capable of filling Lucas's shoes .

[Alan]

Well we'll have to go for the wins against minnows now. An all or nothing approach is called for.

A DM is essential for the big games but not so much against smaller teams. Now that we're weaker and far less likely pick up results against the big teams it makes it even more imperative to beat the minnows

[SinghDude]

Well we'll have to go for the wins against minnows now. An all or nothing approach is called for.

A DM is essential for the big games but not so much against smaller teams. Now that we're weaker and far less likely pick up results against the big teams it makes it even more imperative to beat the minnows

Let the 'ol warhorse Carra play in midfield:D

[hawker]

oi. :(

Going to be tough, even if City field a weakened team. They just have so many quality players.

We almost beat them, and besides playing the second leg at home is an advantage :D Liverpool likes to step it up against the big clubs!

Rather play them over 2 legs than in the final. We were going to play them either way!


Lucas out for the rest of the season with cruciate ligament damage. Huge blow.

Massive massive blow. Hopefully Spearing can get an extended run in the team. Spearing is a solid DM and he never stops running.


Gerrard will be a new signing..... nobody else is capable of filling Lucas's shoes .

+1 No one can replace Lucas :( but getting Gerrard back (whenever the heck that might be) would be a boost.

Henderson should get more game time in the middle, where he plays his best! We've also recalled Jonjo from Blackpool (scored 5 goals in 9) so we have a couple of midfielders. What I wouldn't give to have Aqualani at the moment!


Well we'll have to go for the wins against minnows now. An all or nothing approach is called for.

A DM is essential for the big games but not so much against smaller teams. Now that we're weaker and far less likely pick up results against the big teams it makes it even more imperative to beat the minnows

Agree with this, although I think having a DM is a must have in the modern game.

[SinghDude]

The Aquaman likes Italian woman more ......the english broads couldn't fulfil his fantasies.....

[kat06sa]

Lucas out for the rest of the season with cruciate ligament damage. Huge blow.

Losing Lucas is a massive blow. Can't find anything official, source?

I reckon our formation should be 442. Downing Adam Henderson/spearing Kuyt in midfield. Our defense won't enjoy the same protection as before, but in the last few games they have been top notch. Just need to iron out the defensive positioning of the fullbacks.

[hawker]

Losing Lucas is a massive blow. Can't find anything official, source?



No official statement yet, expecting one to be released today. :(

[Alan]

Damn playing Man City again in the semi final.

[Stevie G]

I hated Lucas before, but loved him the last few games. He is the new general in the middle. real massive blow to lose him now since he has peaked to be one of the best midfielders in the epl. hopefully its not too serious

[hawker]

I hated Lucas before, but loved him the last few games. He is the new general in the middle. real massive blow to lose him now since he has peaked to be one of the best midfielders in the epl. hopefully its not too serious

He really stepped up to the plate last season. Most tackles and interceptions for any midfielder in the top 4 european leagues last season. :)

[Stevie G]

who else is there on the market that we can buy in jan. there is not much quality out there. will be interesting times.

[hawker]

who else is there on the market that we can buy in jan. there is not much quality out there. will be interesting times.

I just hope we don't buy British :(

[Stevie G]

yip, the yanks are obsessed with brits now

[kat06sa]

I see we have recalled Jonjo Shelvey from loan at Blackpool.


IAN Holloway has admitted he is gutted to be losing Jonjo Shelvey, a player he believes is destined for the very top.

Liverpool hit the Seasiders with the bombshell news that they were recalling the 19-year-old after discovering that Brazilian midfielder Lucas will be sidelined for six months with a knee injury.

Lucas picked up the injury in Tuesday’s Carling Cup win at Chelsea and Liverpool need Shelvey as cover.

Holloway is disappointed to say the least. Shelvey had scored six goals in nine games and talks about keeping him at Bloomfield Road for the remainder of the season were, according to Pool, at “an advanced stage”.

The boss, though, is pleased that he has played a small part in Shelvey’s development this year.

Holloway said: “It is a shame (he has to go back) because Liverpool are playing exceptionally well, and I had been hoping that might leave an opportunity for us to keep Jonjo until the end of the season.

“All I know is that Jonjo is a fantastic young man who has all sorts of ability. I have no doubts whatsoever he will be a top, top player.

“He is already at a top, top club and he had been helping us try to get back to where we want to get – the Premier League. I think he had improved as a player in the time he’s been here and that pleases me.

“Our fans were enjoying watching him play, and he had a great following among our supporters, despite the fact he had only been here for a couple of months. Jonjo is English and he gives us English people hope that we might have a half-decent national team for the future.

“I just hope he is involved (at Liverpool), because when someone invests that amount of money in a lad so early (he signed for £1.7m from Charlton in summer 2010), they often end up getting stacked and racked and lost.”

Shelvey’s absence throughout a busy December is a major blow, though there are plenty of other options in attack.”

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/holloway_gutted_by_shelvey_recall_1_4020066

[poolmania]

I hated Lucas before, but loved him the last few games. He is the new general in the middle. real massive blow to lose him now since he has peaked to be one of the best midfielders in the epl. hopefully its not too serious

Seriously. You see that's the problem with some of our support. I can understand people getting frustrated with Lucas in his earlier years but hate is totally unacceptable. People forget thast Lucas came in from the Brazilian league, never having any prior expereince in europe. He cam in to a team with the likes of Alonso and Mascherano in the team. Right from the beginning, Rafa decided to try and mould Lucas into a DM which he never was before he came. It's understandable that it would take time for him to come right yet supporters got on his back from the off which never helped him.

I can't remember the last time I was as gutted as I am now for a player picking up a long term injury. He has really been a model professional for me. He always picked up the stick when we lost even when he was not the culprit yet he continued. The worst moment for him was when he was booed off aganist West Ham back in 2008. He has kept on trying to progress and has definately got the rewards so far. From the beginning of the year, he has been immense and it's a real shame that he picked up such an injury.

It's very sad. Out of all the years I've watched football, no one has impressed me as much as Lucas when it comes to work ethic, determination and the will to progress no matter what stick is thrown at him.

He doesn't have all the tricks as other world class midfielders have but he does have the biggest heart. Gutted for him, absolutely gutted.

[poolmania]

He really stepped up to the plate last season. Most tackles and interceptions for any midfielder in the top 4 european leagues last season. :)

He's heading the table this season as well.

[SinghDude]

Liverpool vs Southend/Oldham FA Cup 3 round


Will be nice to see Oldham @ Anfield.

[Stevie G]

yoh, socking refereeing. worst i have seen in a while. pathetic all that i can say

[MickeyD]

What a pathetic red card. Why was Senderoz not red carded for rugby tackling Adam?

[hawker]

Not a red card in a million years.

WTF is Maxi still doing on the bench.

I've stopped watching :(

[Randhir]

what goes around, comes around

bwa ha ha


yoh, socking refereeing. worst i have seen in a while. pathetic all that i can say

bwa ha ha

[superskully]

Referee needs to be shot for that red.
Add a penalty, a disallowed goal (close call), we just have no luck.

[Stickfigure]

bwa ha ha

Look who's bitching now bwa ha ha.

[SinghDude]

$%$%$%%*!@@#$#^%&*(*()@#%^@#$@#$

[R13...]

One giant leap... to err..somewhere

[dbecks]

Look who's bitching now bwa ha ha.Yeah....I just love how that guy makes a Poopal of himself....bwaaahaha

[hawker]

Shocking.

Jay shouldnt have had red, saurez's dissallowed goal was onside! Dempsey should've been off for going at Bellamy. Pretty sure Adam should've had a penalty. Senderos should've been booked for persistent fouling.

Now we don't have any DM in the team for the next 3 games.

Thought Henderson played well, he is quality midfielder and came so close to scoring.

Once again, LFC fails to beat a small club after turning it on against the big guns. Typical.

[greg0205]

^ This.

[Randhir]

But wait! There's more!

Liverpool's Luis Suárez makes 'offensive gesture' at Fulham fans (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/06/liverpool-luis-suarez-gesture)


The Liverpool striker Luis Suárez could face a misconduct charge after appearing to make an offensive gesture towards Fulham fans at the end of his team's 1-0 defeat here on Monday night.

Suárez, who has been charged by the Football Association over allegations that he racially abused Manchester United's Patrice Evra in October, which he denies, was pictured apparently responding to supporters as he walked towards the tunnel after the match.

The Uruguay international was subjected to chants of "cheat" after the referee, Kevin Friend, turned down a penalty appeal when he went over after a challenge by Brede Hangeland in the second half. The FA will wait for the official's match report before deciding whether to act.

Kenny Dalglish, the Liverpool manager, admitted he could be forced to talk to Suárez about his conduct following the latest controversy but angrily hit back over the fans' abuse. "I haven't seen the picture and I'm not taking anybody's word for it," said Dalglish. "If you show me the picture and I'm convinced that what you're saying is true, then I've got a decision to make. But until you have proved it is true to me, I won't comment."

In response to Fulham supporters branding Suárez a "cheat", Dalglish said: "That's scandalous. I would like to see you write that in the paper because you would be in a bit of trouble as well. You write what you want to write. At the end of the day, we will look after Luis the best we can and I think it is about time he got a wee bit of protection from some people."

[dbecks]

But wait! There's more!

Liverpool's Luis Suárez makes 'offensive gesture' at Fulham fans (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/06/liverpool-luis-suarez-gesture)All in a days work for the lad

[Stickfigure]

Suarez is such a good ambassador for Liverpool. What an upstanding player :rolleyes:

[SinghDude]

He must be pretty good for a cheat.....

Dont you wish you had him ?

[Stickfigure]

Nah. Got Rooney and Hernandez so he'd just warm the bench.

[Randhir]

He must be pretty good for a cheat.....

Dont you wish you had him ?

How many games hasn't he scored/assisted for now?

So... No thanks. Plus, I wouldn't want a racist at United.

[SinghDude]

How many games hasn't he scored/assisted for now?

So... No thanks. Plus, I wouldn't want a racist at United.

He scares the $hCit out of defenders......

As for being racist, well there are plenty of those going around at OT...thats just Football...globally.

[Randhir]

He scares the $hCit out of defenders......


In all honesty, I'd rather have a striker that defenders think they can dominate physically who actually scores (Hernandez), than one who scares defenders yet contruibutes nothing to the final score (Suarez).



As for being racist, well there are plenty of those going around at OT...thats just Football...globally.

True.

[Alan]

Shocking.

Jay shouldnt have had red, saurez's dissallowed goal was onside! Dempsey should've been off for going at Bellamy. Pretty sure Adam should've had a penalty. Senderos should've been booked for persistent fouling.

Now we don't have any DM in the team for the next 3 games.

Thought Henderson played well, he is quality midfielder and came so close to scoring.

Once again, LFC fails to beat a small club after turning it on against the big guns. Typical.

Pretty much. Were very unlucky last night. Robbed by the officials again and hit the post/bar for I think the 12 or 13th time this season.

Fulham are a quality side IMO but Dalglish got it wrong tactically again against minnows. Lobbing high balls to Carrol all game was meat and drink for their CBs.

[SinghDude]

Carroll is a FAIL !!!!!!

[fishfly]

Carroll is a FAIL !!!!!!

NO HIS NOT! He was the best thing that happened to Newcastle :p

[hawker]

Carroll is a FAIL !!!!!!

I think it's hard for him to play with Saurez.

He is an out and out center forward and saurez's movement wrecks everything. :D

We should see what happens if he doesn't play with saurez :D

[Stickfigure]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/05/article-0-0F11010000000578-816_468x286.jpg

[satanboy]

-Son: Dad I think this girl I'm dating is too old for me...
-Dad: What makes you think that son?
-Son: Well, to start with she said she's seen Liverpool win the League.
-Dad: Damn she's old!

[hawker]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/05/article-0-0F11010000000578-816_468x286.jpg

Everton fans pelt out players with coins -> nothing.
Balotelli wrecks changing room door -> amusement.
Smear campaign in the media against Suarez, referees + public runs with it -> Saurez does nothing.

Now finally when Suarez reacts to fans calling him a cheat it's a major issue.

FFS.

[Randhir]

Everton fans pelt out players with coins -> nothing.
Balotelli wrecks changing room door -> amusement.
Smear campaign in the media against Suarez, referees + public runs with it -> Saurez does nothing.

Now finally when Suarez reacts to fans calling him a cheat it's a major issue.

FFS.

I'm sure Suarez will say that that's how everyone says goodbye in Uruguay.

[kat06sa]

I don't see Suarez escaping punishment. Unprofessional act from him and he really deserves to be sanctioned for it.

Sad panda Liverpool supporter.

[hawker]

I don't see Suarez escaping punishment. Unprofessional act from him and he really deserves to be sanctioned for it.

Sad panda Liverpool supporter.


This:


Here’s a quick rundown of “offensive gesture” incidents to help your write your Luis Suarez stories properly:

9 May 2011: Manchester United and England player Wayne Rooney is photographed and videotaped making a clear V-sign toward Chelsea fans. FA decides not to take action.

17 December 2007: Chelsea and England player Ashley Cole is photographed making a clear V-sign toward Arsenal fans. There is no immediately available record of the FA taking any action.

19 January 2010: Manchester United and England player Gary Neville is photographed clearly extending a middle finger toward Manchester City’s Carlos Tevez in full view of fans, at the end of a heated local derby. There is no immediately available record of the FA taking any action.

There’s the hard part done for you. Now do your jobs. Find out whether Cole and Neville were punished —Cole for doing precisely what Suarez is accused of, Neville for doing something similar and surely no more excusable.

If you find that they were indeed punished, then inform us, and demand the same for Suarez.

If you find that they were not, demand equal treatment for Suarez, regardless of the fact that he is your pantomime villain and does not play his international football for England.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2011/12/attention-mainstream-football-writers/

Saurez will probably be punished, seeing as the footballing media is out to get him. Not much we can do.

[SinghDude]

Suarez should milk the situation and learn how to dive properly......

needs to also learn how to play-act more IMO

:whistle:

[RexxGrim]

I'm sure Suarez will say that that's how everyone says goodbye in Uruguay.

I've been to Uruguay and I was greated like that often. This is simply a cultural misunderstanding.

[hawker]

I've been to Uruguay and I was greated like that often. This is simply a cultural misunderstanding.

http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/joker-not-sure-if-serious.jpg

[Stickfigure]

Right... Mind explaining how the Europa League works? You guys have played in it before correct?

[hawker]

Right... Mind explaining how the Europa League works? You guys have played in it before correct?

We have :) It's basically like the champions league. Group stages, knockout rounds (home and away legs I think) then a final at the end.

I think, not 100% sure. Woy "No Management Skill" Hodgson was our manager at the time and we got knocked out by Atletico Madrid.

[Stickfigure]

We have :) It's basically like the champions league. Group stages, knockout rounds (home and away legs I think) then a final at the end.

United don't go into the group stages right? They start off in the kockout stages?

[Randhir]

I think, not 100% sure. Woy "No Management Skill" Hodgson was our manager at the time and we got knocked out by Atletico Madrid.

Weird. I could've sworn Kenny "False Saviour" Dalglish was your manager when you guys were knocked out by Braga.

[hawker]

Weird. I could've sworn Kenny "False Saviour" Dalglish was your manager when you guys were knocked out by Braga.

Could be, like I said I wasn't sure.

Why do you think KD is a false saviour? I don't think he is doing that badly considering how long he was out of management and all that.

[SinghDude]

Could be, like I said I wasn't sure.

Why do you think KD is a false saviour? I don't think he is doing that badly considering how long he was out of management and all that.


Not so sure about Kenny's tactics and selections when it comes to playing minnows. The players need to take responsibilty for their poor performances against lesser opposition. Seems to be no lack of motivation needed when playing the big guns...only to be slaughtered at the hands of relegation threatened teams.

[hawker]

Not so sure about Kenny's tactics and selections when it comes to playing minnows. The players need to take responsibilty for their poor performances against lesser opposition. Seems to be no lack of motivation needed when playing the big guns...only to be slaughtered at the hands of relegation threatened teams.

+1

His tactics make me pull my hair out most times. The one time he started with my ideal team we beat Chelsea 2-1 :D

[Alan]

Not so sure about Kenny's tactics and selections when it comes to playing minnows. The players need to take responsibilty for their poor performances against lesser opposition. Seems to be no lack of motivation needed when playing the big guns...only to be slaughtered at the hands of relegation threatened teams.

I swear I always expect to see Rafa on the touchline

http://i.imgur.com/KwfQ2.gif

Against Fulham the team sat back so deep and never got forward. Carrol found himself alone in the box surround by 6 white shirts almost every time *facepalm*

Oh and own goals is LFC's second top scorer with 3 :o

[SinghDude]

I swear I always expect to see Rafa on the touchline

http://i.imgur.com/KwfQ2.gif

Against Fulham the team sat back so deep and never got forward. Carrol found himself alone in the box surround by 6 white shirts almost every time *facepalm*

Oh and own goals is LFC's second top scorer with 3 :o

Its been a sad struggle since Rush and to an extent Owen. L"pool simply dont have a striker that can bang in 20+ goals per season regularly..... last player to do so was probably Gerarrd and he aint no number 10.

[Alan]

Well LFC need a natural goal scorer. A Hernandez/Bent/Trezeguet type of player who'll just sit in the box and take the one chance that comes their way. Unfortunately the penchant at LFC to buy 6/10 workaholics so a striker not willing to defend 90% of the time and the moronic buy English youth policy rules that type of player out.

[SinghDude]

.....Bring back Torres if he is unhappy.



Dye his hair blonde again and get him a pretty aliceband and "Pool will have a natural goal scorer .

[hugo69er]

.....Bring back Torres if he is unhappy.



Dye his hair blonde again and get him a pretty aliceband and "Pool will have a natural goal scorer .

Trade carol for Torres!!! lol :-p

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[SinghDude]

Liverpool - Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has insisted Luis Suarez has his full support after the controversial Uruguay striker was hit with two Football Association charges.

Suarez has been charged with improper conduct following an alleged gesture he made towards Fulham fans during Monday's 1-0 defeat at Craven Cottage.

The incident was captured by photographers and Suarez, who already faces an FA charge for allegedly making racist remarks to Manchester United defender Patrice Evra, has until 16h00 GMT on Monday to respond.

Fulham fans chanted “cheat” at Suarez during a game which saw him on the receiving end of some hefty challenges.

Dalglish said it was a “joke” the racism charge hanging over Suarez had yet to be dealt with by the FA.

And he insisted the former Ajax player, who has scored seven league and cup goals this season, retained the full backing of everyone at Liverpool.

“The staff, players and supporters will stand by him because they know what the truth is,” said Anfield great Dalglish.

“We'll stand by him. It's only in other people's interests that if they cannot stop him on the pitch, they have to try some other ways and means to stop him.

“They're entitled to tackle him, but tackle him fairly. That's all we're saying,” the former Scotland striker added.

“People just jump on the bandwagon and accuse him of this, that and everything else. He's a fantastic footballer and one that every other club would love to have in their side.”

Despite being hit with a new FA charge, Suarez will start when Queens Park Rangers visit Anfield on Saturday.

Liverpool are seventh in the Premier League table - five points adrift of fourth-placed Chelsea.

Dalglish's players are under pressure to defeat QPR after four home games without a win.

But QPR striker Jamie Mackie believes encouraging performances earlier in the season against Chelsea and Manchester City give his side confidence ahead of the London club's first visit to Anfield for 16 years.

Mackie, who returned to the first team in October after recovering from a broken leg, was involved in the QPR sides that beat Chelsea and narrowly lost 3-2 to Premier League leaders City.

“We have shown with our performances against Chelsea and Man City that we enjoy the challenge of playing against the top sides in the division, and hopefully we can do that again,” he said.

QPR conceded a late equaliser at home to West Brom last week and arrive on Merseyside with one win in five games.

“We played some good football on Saturday, and I felt we dominated much of the game,” added Mackie.

“Now, having had a couple of days to reflect on it, there are a lot of positives to take from the match and we have got to take the sort of football we're playing into Saturday's game at Liverpool.”

QPR, promoted from the Championship in May, have a number of Liverpool fans in their squad, including captain Joey Barton, Bradley Orr and Clint Hill, but Mackie has urged his team-mates to forget about their old allegiance this weekend.

“There are a few lads in the dressing room who support them, so it is going to be a special match,” the Scotland international said.

“But we have got to work hard to try and bring our good recent football into this game. We want to go there and get a positive result.” - Sapa-AFP

[hawker]

Heard Warnock also attacked the FA about some recent decisions/Saurez situation.

[Alan]

Dalglish's players are under pressure to defeat QPR after four home games without a win.

Didn't Rafa throw away our chance at the title a few years ago with 4 home draws in a row?

[hawker]

Job done.

1-0.

Clean sheet, goal for saurez. Next match.

[badass]

Job done.

1-0.

Clean sheet, goal for saurez. Next match.

+1

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[SinghDude]

Opposition goalies are bringing some seriaas blackmagic to Anfield.

They have pulled off save after save after save in the numerous home draws.

Kenny needs to get a sangoma asap...maybe the goals might follow.

[superskully]

Opposition goalies are bringing some seriaas blackmagic to Anfield.

They have pulled off save after save after save in the numerous home draws.

Kenny needs to get a sangoma asap...maybe the goals might follow.

Bad luck prayers!
But we defended well, Reina did not have to make a save, we did everything well but worrying that we ony put 1 in, was enough though.
Suarez n Maxi should have had hat tricks each.

[greg0205]

Opposition goalies are bringing some seriaas blackmagic to Anfield.

They have pulled off save after save after save in the numerous home draws.

Kenny needs to get a sangoma asap...maybe the goals might follow.

With SO many assists from the woodwork as well... Seasons go by and you might remember one cracking shot that came back off the post... Hell man, we're having one (or two) a game now!

[hawker]

With SO many assists from the woodwork as well... Seasons go by and you might remember one cracking shot that came back off the post... Hell man, we're having one (or two) a game now!

Well it has to change sometime.

The goals will come...I hope.

[greg0205]

Well it has to change sometime.

The goals will come...I hope.

Keep the faith.

[Alan]

Another day and Maxi could have had another hat trick

[hawker]

Another day and Maxi could have had another hat trick

+1

Opposition goalkeepers have some serious voodoo magic going on at Anfield.

[Alan]

+1

Opposition goalkeepers have some serious voodoo magic going on at Anfield.

Perhaps it's because they have a chance at making saves.

[hawker]

Perhaps it's because they have a chance at making saves.

KD really should schedule some shooting practise!

[SinghDude]

Get Carrol drunk......... thats the only way he will be on target....



he really doesn't look or plays like a footballer,


Watching Crouch yesterday , was so much more different.......

[superskully]

Get Carrol drunk......... thats the only way he will be on target....

he really doesn't look or plays like a footballer,
Watching Crouch yesterday , was so much more different.......

Saw that game, happy Spurs lost, but they were robbed (they deserve it after all).

[superskully]

Where are Liverpools goals going to come from:
Suarez - possibly tiring.
Own goals
Belamy - not given enough pitch time.
Maxi - Has scored many but does miss quite a few.
Kuyt - Has not scored any league goals this season.
Downing - Still on 0.
Caroll - seriously?

[Stevie G]

hopefully we can hijack tevez deal from under the noses of AC Milan. he would be an awsome signing. seeing the 2 south americans together will make any defence shiver. who else is then available and wants to play for us.

[Alan]

Tevez doesn't want to play in England

[smokey]

Tevez doesn't want to play in England

Tevez doesn't know where he wants to play. If you were able to get him, it would help Pool get a few extra goals that are badly needed (games against Chelsea notwithstanding). Yeah, he might cause a ruckus in the changing rooms, but seriously, would you mind if he scored a boatload of goals?

[SinghDude]

Agreed, Tevez is a madhir in front of goal.






Edit : excellent striker ;)

[R13...]

City would never allow him to go to a team in the premier league, let alone one competing for a top 4 finish.

[Randhir]

City would never allow him to go to a team in the premier league, let alone one competing for a top 4 finish.

So they'd have no problem loaning him to Liverpool

:D

[RexxGrim]

So they'd have no problem loaning him to Liverpool

:D

Haha :D

[superskully]

City would never allow him to go to a team in the premier league, let alone one competing for a top 4 finish.

They loaned Adebayor to Spurs.
City competiting for title, Liverpool/Spurs/Arsenal for top 4.

[kat06sa]

Rumours swirling that Torres would be available in Jan transfer window. The logical side of me thinks that he'd never return. What do we think? Has he lost that spark forever?

Probably never happen though, but just imagine a Torres-Saurez partnership.

[Stickfigure]

Just got handed an ass whipping by our reserves. 4-0.

Diouf scored a double, how embarrassing.