Official Liverpool FC Supporters Thread

[SEF]

Don't get me started on Suarez :sick:

[SinghDude]

Cheat ?

Are you going on about what happened at the WC ?

Or still opinionated about his performances when it comes to 'diving ' ?

He is very strong with the ball at his feet, hence the need for defenders to foul him... He just tries to get his own back...by getting free-kicks ...

Calling him a cheat, is a tad too much, players dive all the time in the hope of getting penalties , free kicks and fooling refs to get opposition players sent off or carded.


All the Suarez haters out there will probably be the ones cheering the most if he was wearing the same team colours that the haters support !

[nivek]

Cheat ?

Are you going on about what happened at the WC ?

Or still opinionated about his performances when it comes to 'diving ' ?

He is very strong with the ball at his feet, hence the need for defenders to foul him... He just tries to get his own back...by getting free-kicks ...

Calling him a cheat, is a tad too much, players dive all the time in the hope of getting penalties , free kicks and fooling refs to get opposition players sent off or carded.


All the Suarez haters out there will probably be the ones cheering the most if he was wearing the same team colours that the haters support !

lol
please
he's the dirtiest cheat the league has ever seen

the world cup is one example yes, the dives today is another... 'very strong with the ball at his feet' well you guys didnt agree with the manc's when they used to use that excuse for ronaldo

[SinghDude]

Ronaldo is brilliant at everything he does.

Scoring
Diving
Cheating

[Stickfigure]

Ronaldo is brilliant at everything he does.

Scoring
Diving
Cheating

Suarez as well, except the scoring part of course.

[SinghDude]

Jealous much ?

What's with the obsession with Suarez anyways ?

I'd swear that there are some closet fanbois in here !!!

[MickeyD]

Suarez as well, except the scoring part of course.
Agreed.

[iDOL]

Jealous much ?

What's with the obsession with Suarez anyways ?

I'd swear that there are some closet fanbois in here !!!

To quote a comment from the guardian today :


Something strange is happening, Luis Suarez is morphing into a cartoon character....and one I'm developing a perverse liking for.

His constant cheating and all round (dick) dastardly behaviour coupled with a total inability to score goals, however hard he tries, is becoming familiary endearing.
It's like he's been scripted for our entertainment and like any cartoon villain you know exactly what you're going to get, week in, week out.
He really reminds me of ''Evil Monkey'' out of Family Guy.

[SinghDude]

^

Comment by Giggsguide...


Not surprising coming from a Manc.

Giggs btw has lost his case against the tabloids for defamation.
Contrary to popular belief of him being a goody2shoes...he is a cheating bastard.

Cheating bastard in every true sense of the word...unlike Suarez which is much more opinionated and debatable !!!

[nivek]

^

Comment by Giggsguide...


Not surprising coming from a Manc.

Giggs btw has lost his case against the tabloids for defamation.
Contrary to popular belief of him being a goody2shoes...he is a cheating bastard.

Cheating bastard in every true sense of the word...unlike Suarez which is much more opinionated and debatable !!!

debatable?
come on
you're starting to sound like stevieg now
whats debatable about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_oYeugGiw
or his dives today?

[SinghDude]

Diving today ?

He rounded the keeper. Minimal CONTACT.... That's why the ref gave a penalty.

[nivek]

Diving today ?

He rounded the keeper. Minimal CONTACT.... That's why the ref gave a penalty.

Zero contact my friend
http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xp73tt

[4cer]

there shins hit if you pay attention.

[SinghDude]

What did the ref see ?

What did the assistant see ?

Did you have to watch a few replays to confirm contact ?

So much uproar due to the player being Suarez...

If a similar decision was given to any other player in the box there wouldn't be such hype !

[nivek]

there shins hit if you pay attention.

Before or after the dive?
;)

[MickeyD]

Zero contact my friend
http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xp73tt
Then the kepper should have been carded for an attempted two footed tackle. Remember it is the "intent" when it comes to the two footed tackle scenario....

And there was MINIMAL contact.

[nivek]

Then the kepper should have been carded for an attempted two footed tackle. Remember it is the "intent" when it comes to the two footed tackle scenario....

And there was MINIMAL contact.


Minimal contact after the dive
anyway

west brom just scored.. :D

this discussion isnt about the ref.. its about whether or not suarez cheated

[R13...]

Then the kepper should have been carded for an attempted two footed tackle. Remember it is the "intent" when it comes to the two footed tackle scenario....

And there was MINIMAL contact.
Carded? He was actually pulling out of the tackle when the cheat tumbled from the air disturbance. His feet were pulling back on realizing he didn't get the ball and probably knowing the cheat would dive.

The ref was not in a position to make a fair call there either, his view of the keeper was blocked by Suarez

[SinghDude]

Cheated ?


FFS...

[SinghDude]

Carded? He was actually pulling out of the tackle when the cheat tumbled from the air disturbance. His feet were pulling back on realizing he didn't get the ball and probably knowing the cheat would dive.


Goalies pulling out tackles ???


Hmmmmm ? Is the Arsenal defense so poor that you now need a goalie that tackles opposition strikers ?

[Randhir]

Minimal contact after the dive
anyway

west brom just scored.. :D

this discussion isnt about the ref.. its about whether or not suarez cheated

Give it up dude. Suarez is a cheat but as long as he's wearing that shirt they'll never admit it. Except Mikey :D

[MickeyD]

Give it up dude. Suarez is a cheat but as long as he's wearing that shirt they'll never admit it. Except Mikey :D
:D The point is that any player from any team would have gone down in the same situation. The ultra-slowmo with zoom showed that there was minimal contact. Did he make a meal of it? Yes, just like 99% of other players do.

[nivek]

Goalies pulling out tackles ???


Hmmmmm ? Is the Arsenal defense so poor that you now need a goalie that tackles opposition strikers ?

i dont know, which team won today?

[hawker]

At least Chelsea lost as well :D

[nivek]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27453474@N02/6803317392/
:)

[fishfly]

I'd rather be a cheating bastard than a racist liar

[LMFAO]

gooners got out of jail from the linesman. RVP looked abit offside too. anyhow i think 4 is still up for grabs. don't think the gooners have it in them to get 4th spot.

[MickeyD]

gooners got out of jail from the linesman. RVP looked abit offside too. anyhow i think 4 is still up for grabs. don't think the gooners have it in them to get 4th spot.

Nope, RVP was not offside. Great pass, stunning finish - Reina erred in that he did not cover his near post properly.

[mmmig]

:D sweet revenge after losing the reverse fixture at the start of the season

[hawker]

:D sweet revenge after losing the reverse fixture at the start of the season

Lets hope the Gooners fans don't forget that :D

[nivek]

Nope, RVP was not offside. Great pass, stunning finish - Reina erred in that he did not cover his near post properly.

Much respect Mickey

[MickeyD]

Much respect Mickey
Regardless of who you support you must respect good footballing skills.

RVO skinned Carra for his first and added a touch of brilliance for his second.

Could my team have stopped both goals? Yes, definitely. Enrique was too slow in closing down the wing for the cross and Carra allowed RVP to get in front of him for the header. The second was poor play by Carra/Skrtel as they were caught square and Reina for being beaten ast his near post.

Simple.

2 chances. 2 goals.

Game over.

[hawker]

Seeing as 4th place is pretty much a lost cause now, I'd like to see Shelvey + Coates get some regular game time.

Maybe give Sterling/Flanno/Robinson a few minutes here and there, Doni needs a few minutes as well!

[nivek]

Regardless of who you support you must respect good footballing skills.



Indeed
Which is why I miss Ronaldo, though I do think RVP has more skills and will be a massive loss to the EPL should he leave at the end of the season

[LMFAO]

i think kenny needs to go and bring in MON. he is brilliant at what he does and gets the best out of the players.kk is too defensive and scared of losing. we will struggle to get 4th spot every season while kk is in charge.

[kat06sa]

i think kenny needs to go and bring in MON. he is brilliant at what he does and gets the best out of the players.kk is too defensive and scared of losing. we will struggle to get 4th spot every season while kk is in charge.

Mon?

[MickeyD]

Mon?
Martin O'Neil

[kat06sa]

Martin O'Neil

He was my original choice before Woy. Did wonders at Aston villa. If I remember correctly the reason he left was due to interference from the "director of football" at Aston...

[SukkaFoo]

Interesting video of Henderson while he was at the Sunderland academy:

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/2012-03-04/brilliant-video-16-year-old-jordan-henderson-showcases-his-fantastic-skill

Now if only the kid would come good...at this stage I am still not convinced

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[superskully]

Spearing needs to play every game.
We played brilliantly except we cant finish and terrible set pieces, esp corners.
Btw, we missed two open nets (suarez and kelly) and a penalty, yes it was a penalty, replays clearly showed contact.

[Randhir]

Spearing needs to play every game.
We played brilliantly except we cant finish and terrible set pieces, esp corners.
Btw, we missed two open nets (suarez and kelly) and a penalty, yes it was a penalty, replays clearly showed contact.

The goalie had his foot on the ground. Suarez barely shaved it and went down clutching his shin ( :confused: ) and stayed down for 3 minutes like he had been kicked.

[hawker]

The goalie had his foot on the ground. Suarez barely shaved it and went down clutching his shin ( :confused: ) and stayed down for 3 minutes like he had been kicked.

I didn't think it was a pen. We got lucky.

[LMFAO]

suarez needs to go

[hawker]

suarez needs to go

I don't care who goes and who stays just so long as we fix our goal scoring/finishing problem.

We create enough chances we just have a Hernandez/Bent to just finish the chances off and get 20+ goals a season.

We need someone like Robbie Fowler!

[superskully]

The goalie had his foot on the ground. Suarez barely shaved it and went down clutching his shin ( :confused: ) and stayed down for 3 minutes like he had been kicked.


I didn't think it was a pen. We got lucky.

Yep, he made the most of it, but it was contact, and that means penalty, even Andy Townsend agreed and he is not a fan of us.


suarez needs to go

As good as he is, it means nothing if he is not scoring

[greg0205]

suarez needs to go


As good as he is, it means nothing if he is not scoring

Erm... Suarez has scored 10... Next up is Bellamy on 9 and then Carroll, Gerrard and Maxi/Kuyt/Skrtel on 6, 5 and 4 and you guys think HE should go 'cos he's not scoring goals??? Boys, boys, boys, we've scored 57 in all competitions, Suarez accounts for nearly 20 percent of that... Just saying.

[dbecks]

Well I would like to add:

You guys got Downing while we got Young......long live KK....wahahahahaha:D:D:D:D

[dbecks]

Indeed
Which is why I miss Ronaldo, though I do think RVP has more skills and will be a massive loss to the EPL should he leave at the end of the seasonErrr.......okaaaay then

[samr1wp]

Errr.......okaaaay then

hahahaha ...i have no idea what fifa or world nivek plays in

[superskully]

Erm... Suarez has scored 10... Next up is Bellamy on 9 and then Carroll, Gerrard and Maxi/Kuyt/Skrtel on 6, 5 and 4 and you guys think HE should go 'cos he's not scoring goals??? Boys, boys, boys, we've scored 57 in all competitions, Suarez accounts for nearly 20 percent of that... Just saying.

I did not say he must go, god no, but as good, no wait, as brilliant as he is, he needs to start scoring more.
Who else in the EPL can beat defenders so easily.

[superskully]

Well I would like to add:

You guys got Downing while we got Young......long live KK....wahahahahaha:D:D:D:D

I dont get it, we also went in for Young but he chose UTD.
We had to settle for Downing.

BTW, young has not exactly shone for UTD, more bad games than good.

[Nimz]

So the race for the Champions League spot is over - Time to focus on the FA Cup

We played so well on Saturday - such a pity we could not take our chances

[greg0205]

I did not say he must go, god no, but as good, no wait, as brilliant as he is, he needs to start scoring more.
Who else in the EPL can beat defenders so easily.

True that... Astonishing to watch him get past two or three defenders in the box when he's on form. :D

[SinghDude]

Suarez plays much better with Kuyt than Carroll.


He creates alot of chances and im sure next season we will see him improve his goals to shots ratio.

[nexxus]

Suarez playing for Uruguay is a different beast than the one who plays for Liverpool. If he didn't have to come in from so deep and was getting some decent service from the midfield instead of having to manufacture everything himself we may get a better return.

For me the biggest problem is a slow buildup from too deep. The problem is pushing up will expose the defense so we could end up getting a hiding.

But in the end, losses to the top teams don't tend to wreck your season, it's losses to minnows that does & we've had too many of them. We deserved more than we got but that can happen against a quality team.

[samr1wp]

Suarez plays much better with Kuyt than Carroll.


He creates alot of chances and im sure next season we will see him improve his goals to shots ratio.

you sound like gerrard now ...everything is next season

[SinghDude]

Anybody notice how well the team plays with no Gerrard ?


Seems like Adam and Henderson actually play better behind the front 2 with no Gerrard.

Downing did well, i think L'Pool missed Glen Johnson going forward...... Johno gives the team so much more width going forward....

RVP is class, but it must a poor show by the back four including Reina for both goals.


You cant really give van Persie any sniff at goal.... he is that damn good.

Reina should have been more pro-active with the first goal and taken charge in the box.... and the second was amatuer keeping to be beaten at the near post.

[SinghDude]

you sound like gerrard now ...everything is next season


Gerrard is going the same way as fat Frank.


Not getting the England captaincy will be the nail in his coffin. He is not the same player he has always been , after his injury.

If Kenny has any sense he should make Gerrard a CB.

He has no pace left to play in an attacking midfield role..... perhaps he will be forced to adopt a role as a DM .... much like Lucus.

[samr1wp]

Gerrard is going the same way as fat Frank.


Not getting the England captaincy will be the nail in his coffin. He is not the same player he has always been , after his injury.

If Kenny has any sense he should make Gerrard a CB.

He has no pace left to play in an attacking midfield role..... perhaps he will be forced to adopt a role as a DM .... much like Lucus.

true he doesnt have that drive forward ...but yeah none of liverpool players do ...:p

kyt has lost it as well ...shame liverpool just won a trophy and already collapsing

[superskully]

Anybody notice how well the team plays with no Gerrard ?
Seems like Adam and Henderson actually play better behind the front 2 with no Gerrard.


It was becos of Spearing (Lucas did the same job before, and since his injury, our game has dropped).
Yesterday, Spearing covered the midfielders, which meant guys like Adam, Downing and Henderson did not have to track back so much. That meant that the same guys could apply the pressure in the opposition half.
When the CDM does not play, these guys sit back quite a bit...

[samr1wp]

It was becos of Spearing (Lucas did the same job before, and since his injury, our game has dropped).
Yesterday, Spearing covered the midfielders, which meant guys like Adam, Downing and Henderson did not have to track back so much. That meant that the same guys could apply the pressure in the opposition half.
When the CDM does not play, these guys sit back quite a bit...

talking about adam ....the half time analysis team said that adam took the ball for the penalty but kuyt took it away from him cause his last penalty hasnt come down as yet :D

[Randhir]

Suarez playing for Uruguay is a different beast than the one who plays for Liverpool. If he didn't have to come in from so deep and was getting some decent service from the midfield instead of having to manufacture everything himself we may get a better return.

The problem is Suarez himself. He's brilliant at getting himself into shooting and scoring opportunities, but is horrible when it comes to actually putting the ball in the back of the net.




If Kenny has any sense he should make Gerrard a CB.


LOL!

[dbecks]

I dont get it, we also went in for Young but he chose UTD.
We had to settle for Downing.

BTW, young has not exactly shone for UTD, more bad games than good.I know :D:D:D:D

[Demon7]

Anyone of the belief that Stevie is past it, is nothing short of deluded...

He is poor this season as a result of him having to sit deep as cover... Rafa showed the way to best utilize him, by either playing him on the right, or playing him high up as support to striker.. but in both positions, Stevie had freedom to roam.
Now he is more static and his game is more defensive than attacking.
He is not the one dictating the play, and as a result, our build-up is slow.

Gerrard a CB, you got to be kidding.. *facepalm*

[SinghDude]

Anyone of the belief that Stevie is past it, is nothing short of deluded...

He is poor this season as a result of him having to sit deep as cover... Rafa showed the way to best utilize him, by either playing him on the right, or playing him high up as support to striker.. but in both positions, Stevie had freedom to roam.
Now he is more static and his game is more defensive than attacking.
He is not the one dictating the play, and as a result, our build-up is slow.

Gerrard a CB, you got to be kidding.. *facepalm*

How old is Stevie again ?

I think that you are reminiscing to much over the good 'ol days !!!

[Randhir]

How old is Stevie again ?

I think that you are reminiscing to much over the good 'ol days !!!

Yeah so stick him at CB! Hahahaahaha...

[SinghDude]

He has played at RB in a CL final yeahhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!

he will probably make an outstanding CB.... remember Lothar Matthäus !!!!

[Randhir]

He has played at RB in a CL final yeahhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!


So has Valencia, now let's make him a CB :D :D :D

[hawker]

Aqualani! I wish we could've kept him at LFC. If he plays 5 more games he is Milans to keep :(

A midfield of Gerrard + Aqualani + Lucas would've been epic :)

[R13...]

Anybody notice how well the team plays with no Gerrard ?


Seems like Adam and Henderson actually play better behind the front 2 with no Gerrard.

Downing did well, i think L'Pool missed Glen Johnson going forward...... Johno gives the team so much more width going forward....

RVP is class, but it must a poor show by the back four including Reina for both goals.


You cant really give van Persie any sniff at goal.... he is that damn good.

Reina should have been more pro-active with the first goal and taken charge in the box.... and the second was amatuer keeping to be beaten at the near post.
Your keeper should have come out for the first goal because the cross was from so far out. However you can't blame him for the second, most players would have needed a further touch & that gives the keeper time to see where the striker might go. So Reina probably expected RVP to take down the ball but he instead hit it first time, if he covers the near RVP had the rest of the goal wide open.

[superskully]

He has played at RB in a CL final yeahhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!

he will probably make an outstanding CB.... remember Lothar Matthäus !!!!

Stevie actually started of at right back for the injured Babel if i recall correctly.



Your keeper should have come out for the first goal because the cross was from so far out. However you can't blame him for the second, most players would have needed a further touch & that gives the keeper time to see where the striker might go. So Reina probably expected RVP to take down the ball but he instead hit it first time, if he covers the near RVP had the rest of the goal wide open.

You are right in that Reina missed it cos he never expect RVP to hit it.
But as a supposedly WC goalie, he should have expected it (RVP scored a similar goal last season i think).



Aqualani! I wish we could've kept him at LFC. If he plays 5 more games he is Milans to keep :(

A midfield of Gerrard + Aqualani + Lucas would've been epic :)

How does that work again. He plays for Milan and and they can keep him???
Must be at a price.

[superskully]

BTW, Stevie has aged and not the same as before, but miles ahead of Adam or Henderson.
He can put the ball on Caroll's head consistently (though he will still miss).

[Randhir]

But as a supposedly WC goalie, he should have expected it (RVP scored a similar goal last season i think).



This season, against Everton.

[hawker]

How does that work again. He plays for Milan and and they can keep him???
Must be at a price.

Yeah obviously they have to buy him, but still sad to see him go (If he does go).

[R13...]

This season, against Everton.
In which case he should have expected RVP to go to the far post (which is where he went in that Everton game):)

[Randhir]

In which case he should have expected RVP to go to the far post (which is where he went in that Everton game):)

Angle was more acute than the Everton goal, he was more central there. To be honest, most strikers would've tried for at least one more touch, so I don't know how Reina could've anticipated that.

[SinghDude]

Reina was at his near post anyway.....


he ought to have saved it, it would have been a different case had he been more central and if he was caught flat footed.



Credit to RVP for hitting it first time.... Reina should have done better. Period !

[Alan]

Nothing. Has. Changed!!!!!

If this wasn't KK and the Noddy Badge hadn't been won surely the manager would be facing the sack?

[kat06sa]

Nothing. Has. Changed!!!!!

If this wasn't KK and the Noddy Badge hadn't been won surely the manager would be facing the sack?

Indeed. We need to get over the nostalgia and face reality.

[akescpt]

Nothing. Has. Changed!!!!!

If this wasn't KK and the Noddy Badge hadn't been won surely the manager would be facing the sack?
Well the owner did give him a target and I'm sure they will measure him against that. Can't understand why we haven't solved this bloody scoring deficiency. Chances get created but no one knocks them in. I would be tempted to tell fowler to stand in the box and knock the goals in!

[Alan]

Indeed. We need to get over the nostalgia and face reality.

alas most fans won't see it. Can't believe we're going through this all over again. Incompetent owners, cult like worship of clueless manager surviving on long past glories it's like Deja Vu

I can only hope KK didn't sanction the signing of Henderson, Downing and Carroll and feels compelled to play them because of the owners.

[Demon7]

How old is Stevie again ?

I think that you are reminiscing to much over the good 'ol days !!!

reminiscing, I think not.... just two weeks ago Stevie showed he still had pace....
At 31, he may not be what he was at 17, but to suggest that he is past it really makes you seem clueless.
CB and RB are two very different roles.... Just because he is capable of playing any where really, you want to place him at the back... says it all.

Stevie is not the same since recovering from his injury... but any player who is out for almost a year, will also take time to get back to the level of sharpness they had when they left, it may take him even longer due to his age, but that's not to say that he can't and wont get there.

[LMFAO]

owners need to buy at least 3 players in the summer
get rid of kuyt, downing and adam

[ISP cash cow]

I am a bit surprised at the Liverpool fans against Kenny Dalglish. I don't think he has done that bad. the 'Pool's football speed and passing has increased greatly, your defense has been rock solid, and there have been so many matches where you have actually played the opposition into the ground but come out with nothing. Yes you definitely need a forward that can finish the chances but I can tell you that Kenny probably knows that. with who he bought/loaned at the beginning of the season for striking I wouldn't have thought that to be your problem areas. I am quite shocked out how bad Carroll is doing at Liverpool because I thought he would have been a perfect fit for suarez or bellamy but it didn't work out.

I think Kenny will be looking for a goal poacher in the off season.

Your football is a lot better than when Woy was in charge so don't be to hard on kenny

from a gunner fan :D

[Demon7]

I am a bit surprised at the Liverpool fans against Kenny Dalglish. I don't think he has done that bad. the 'Pool's football speed and passing has increased greatly, your defense has been rock solid, and there have been so many matches where you have actually played the opposition into the ground but come out with nothing. Yes you definitely need a forward that can finish the chances but I can tell you that Kenny probably knows that. with who he bought/loaned at the beginning of the season for striking I wouldn't have thought that to be your problem areas. I am quite shocked out how bad Carroll is doing at Liverpool because I thought he would have been a perfect fit for suarez or bellamy but it didn't work out.

I think Kenny will be looking for a goal poacher in the off season.


Your football is a lot better than when Woy was in charge so don't be to hard on kenny

from a gunner fan :D

Common sense coming from a non-biased individual...
well said. if only some of the LFC supporters can show the same.

[Alan]

I am a bit surprised at the Liverpool fans against Kenny Dalglish. I don't think he has done that bad.

Really 7th 10 points behind Arsenal and 7 behind Chelski two clubs supposedly in crises is not "that bad" after spending 80 million+ on players :erm:


the 'Pool's football speed and passing has increased greatly,

There have been plenty of performances this season worse than anything under Rafa and just as bad Hodgson.


your defense has been rock solid,

I thought so too until I realised that has more to do with the fact the teams tactics are extremely defensive. If you're going to sit back and keep it tight against minnows at Anfield your defence would look rock solid. In fact there have been only 4 clean at Anfield this season despite these tactics.


and there have been so many matches where you have actually played the opposition into the ground but come out with nothing.

meh same thing was said during Rafa's reign. "we're still creating chances" ad nauseam.


Yes you definitely need a forward that can finish the chances but I can tell you that Kenny probably knows that. with who he bought/loaned at the beginning of the season for striking I wouldn't have thought that to be your problem areas. I am quite shocked out how bad Carroll is doing at Liverpool because I thought he would have been a perfect fit for suarez or bellamy but it didn't work out.

It wasn't given much of a chance to work. Both Suarez and Carroll's confidence has been killed off by the negative team tactics. Almost any striker who spends most of his time back to goal on the half way line chasing the ball will lose his scoring touch.


I think Kenny will be looking for a goal poacher in the off season.

I doubt that. Poachers generally refuse to sit back and defend which is a prerequisite for any position at this club


Your football is a lot better than when Woy was in charge so don't be to hard on kenny

Not a lot but better. Again when you consider 80 million + was spent it's not nearly enough. If 'Woy' had still been at the club where do you think the club would be now? 15th? No I'd say not too far off where they are.



from a gunner fan :D

Ah this explains it. You just want to undermine the club :mad:. KK is doing great for you.

By the way do you think Wenger is not doing a bad job at Arsenal? 7 years without a trophy, relying on one player and large doses of luck to hang on to 4th, essentially now a feeder club for what were once your peers, surpassed by your rivals Spurs ....

[LMFAO]

tell them Alan :D

[hugo69er]

Though I like Kenny, I said it from the beginning, he won't take us far. But I believe he isn't doing so bad. I rate we should give him at least another season or 2. If Liverpool haven't improved by a huge margin then we should let him go and replace him.

[hawker]

If anything Kenny = FSG have brought some stability to LFC which we needed.

Start judging things from next season onwards, the next 2 or 3 seasons are for rebuilding and restructuring we just need to be patient. This isn't Chelsea/Man City :)

[hugo69er]

If anything Kenny = FSG have brought some stability to LFC which we needed.

Start judging things from next season onwards, the next 2 or 3 seasons are for rebuilding and restructuring we just need to be patient. This isn't Chelsea/Man City :)

I agree. at least another season or 2. next season we have to qualify for champions league and if we don't then there hasn't really been good progress.

[Alan]

If anything Kenny = FSG have brought some stability to LFC which we needed.

and a disastrous transfer policy


Start judging things from next season onwards, the next 2 or 3 seasons are for rebuilding and restructuring we just need to be patient. This isn't Chelsea/Man City :)

Well I'll leave the "I told you so" for then. ;)

[hawker]

and a disastrous transfer policy

Well I'll leave the "I told you so" for then. ;)

Ok mr grumpy :D

[Alan]

The Spaniard, who was at Everton for six years before leaving last summer, collided with Jordan Henderson in the second half and after lengthy treatment was carried off on a stretcher.

He was taken to hospital in the city as Arsenal's medical staff were concerned about a possible neck injury but he was released later that day. Manager Arsene Wenger has ruled him out for a week to recover from concussion.

"I just want to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their help and friendship towards me on Saturday," wrote Arteta in an open letter on Arsenal's website.

"After my accident on the pitch, the Arsenal medical staff did a great job, together with everyone at Liverpool Football Club.

"From Anfield, I was taken straight to the Aintree University Hospital, where they checked me, just as a precaution.

"Everything was fine and I was able to travel from the hospital and join up with my team-mates for the train journey back to London.

"I've since looked back at the TV images of when I was being taken off and just want to show my appreciation to the Liverpool fans at Anfield.

"It is touching to receive that response from the fans of a great club when I am leaving the pitch injured. Thank you.

"I also want to thank Pepe Reina and the Liverpool players who have sent me messages of support and friendship, this again is really touching and just shows class from a great football club.

"And very importantly, a message to all the fantastic Arsenal fans, not only all those at Anfield on Saturday who were brilliant, but also those who have sent me many messages since Saturday.

"It is hugely appreciated. I cannot tell you how much this means to me.

"It must have looked very serious to everyone as I left the pitch on a stretcher, but I'm pleased to say that I'm fine now and hope to be back on the pitch very soon. Thank you everyone."

Well done to all involved

[Alan]

Paris St Germain's billionaire owner Nasser Al-Khelaifi has confirmed the Ligue 1 club hope to bring Liverpool's Luis Suarez and Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain to the Parc des Princes this summer.

Suarez and Higuain top PSG's wish list for next season, following on from the recent transfers of Javier Pastore, Thiago Motta and Alex.

In an ominous sign for the club's rivals, Al-Khelaifi, chairman of Qatar Sports Investment, says the forthcoming summer's spending spree is just the beginning of increased investment over the next "five or six years" as PSG attempt to become a European powerhouse.

"We are already looking at the market for next season," Al-Khelaifi said. "We have clear targets in mind. It is true that we want Luis Suarez and Gonzalo Higuain. Our real short-term targets are to win the Champions League and find a new Lionel Messi.

"We will spend what is normal for a top-class club. We prefer to invest a lot and immediately. In the next five or six years, we still spend this amount. Then the investments will slow."

PSG missed out on signing David Beckham, Carlos Tevez and AC Milan's Alexandre Pato in January, but currently lead Ligue 1 under new manager Carlo Ancelotti.

we could do with Higuain

[hugo69er]

we could do with Higuain

Him and Suarez definitely look like they could work well together.
But I'm not sure any one would leave Real Madrid who are leading la liga will qualify for Europe. Psg are doing the same where as Liverpool are still struggling. Even if we put a bid in for him I doubt he will be happy to come to us.

[hawker]

Him and Suarez definitely look like they could work well together.
But I'm not sure any one would leave Real Madrid who are leading la liga will qualify for Europe. Psg are doing the same where as Liverpool are still struggling. Even if we put a bid in for him I doubt he will be happy to come to us.

Which is why 4th spot at least is crucial.

[fishfly]

Which is why 4th spot at least is crucial.

keep dreaming

[hawker]

keep dreaming

Didn't say we'd get there, just said it was important.

[milomak]

Will be a miracle if we get 4th.

[Alan]

Will be a miracle if we get 4th.

then only the FA cup can salvage the season

[LMFAO]

then only the FA cup can salvage the season

yeah, fa CUP here we come.
we have 1 in the bag already

[akescpt]

then only the FA cup can salvage the season

thats a bloody sad statement that...makes me sigh..progress we have had yes but aaaai. we have forgotten how to score..

[Alan]

thats a bloody sad statement that...makes me sigh..progress we have had yes but aaaai. we have forgotten how to score..

Progress?

Dare I point out

the club is only 4 points ahead of Woy's West Brom.

Closer to the bottom than the top

Further behind the leaders now than we were at the end of last season

Are on course to score one point less than last season.


Not encouraging. Hard facts to swallow :(

[akescpt]

Progress?

Dare I point out

the club is only 4 points ahead of Woy's West Brom.

Closer to the bottom than the top

Further behind the leaders now than we were at the end of last season

Are on course to score one point less than last season.


Not encouraging. Hard facts to swallow :(

Not pleasant that. And he put the final nail in the coffin with that win.

[SinghDude]

FA Cup success together with the League cup already in the bag ,makes it a much better season than last.

[craigdoepie]

FA Cup success together with the League cup already in the bag ,makes it a much better season than last.

Everyone is complaining after a half a season. Yes we should have done better, yes maybe Kenny should use diffferent tactics. But I think we are getting better. We definitely need a decent finisher. We are creating the chances, but we not finishing it. If all the goals that hit the post went in, I think everybody would be singing a different tune.

Half our team is new and haven't played together before this year and I believe if they can play together longer they will get better.

Guess some dodgey buys, but most of them are still young and they can only get better. Have faith guys and like a few people said. Judge the team after next season. Let us not be like Chelsea and change our Manager like we change our underwear

[smokey]

Let us not be like Chelsea and change our Manager like we change our underwear

You change your underwear once a year? :erm:

[hawker]

Coates starts!

Official Team v Sunderland. Reina, Kelly, Enrique, Skrtel, Coates, Bellamy, Spearing, Adam, Henderson, Suarez, Kuyt. S: Doni, SG, JC, AC, MR, SD, JF

[fred1]

What a poor game.
Please dont let Charlie pull on A LFC jersey again!

[kat06sa]

:sick:

[LMFAO]

kenny needs to go
pathetic display. we might as well play our reserve youngsters to get more experience at the top level. these okes don't play for the badge. bunch of money grabbers.

[MickeyD]

It's becoming difficult to remain a positive Liverpool supporter.....

[hawker]

It's becoming difficult to remain a positive Liverpool supporter.....

+1

I used to do almost anything to watch LFC play. But if the players don't give a hoot whether we win or not, then my time can be better spent doing something else. Don't pull that Shankly quote on me either about if you can't support us when lose, then you can't support us when we win. I love this club, but its gut wrenching to watch them play so poorly and with no desire. Something needs to change.

I'm out.

[LMFAO]

yip it does. sad to see the club playing with no heart. something needs to change. kenny think its ok to be mediocre. we need a MON that can get the best out of the bunch. sad times ahead.

[Alan]

I rest my case

[4cer]

true! Its not the end of the world to lose. But when your team doesn't even look phased if they lose, you think whats the point of backing them. They have absolutely no passion.

[Nimz]

One of the worst performance I've seen this season

[hugo69er]

+1

I used to do almost anything to watch LFC play. But if the players don't give a hoot whether we win or not, then my time can be better spent doing something else. Don't pull that Shankly quote on me either about if you can't support us when lose, then you can't support us when we win. I love this club, but its gut wrenching to watch them play so poorly and with no desire. Something needs to change.

I'm out.

Lol u not out :D
Let's forget about this season and focus on the next season :p

[hawker]

Lol u not out :D
Let's forget about this season and focus on the next season :p

Nah, I love LFC too much to be out. :)

[SinghDude]

Kenny has given up on 4th position along time ago. He wants to win the FA cup and smile at the end of season with a double ...


League cup win gets them into Europa , so players don't bother how far off the top they are.

Credit to MON... He has turned around the Black Cats and his team weren't the ones playing like pussies !

[superskully]

Alomst the exact same team that played last week, so how do you go rrom outplaying Arsenal to this.
Inconsistency is what 'not good enough players' are made off.

[hawker]

Alomst the exact same team that played last week, so how do you go rrom outplaying Arsenal to this.
Inconsistency is what 'not good enough players' are made off.

Players that just aren't good enough.

Adam is a donkey, whenever we try and counterattack and gets the ball it takes so long for him to get it under control and pass it, the other team would already have all 11 players back to defend. He can't seem to shoot either, his dead ball delivery is woeful. He can't tackle, can't kick with his right foot, doesn't have much pace. What can he do?

[SinghDude]

****.

[hugo69er]

The defeat is Liverpool’s third in a row in the league – the first time that has happened since October 2003

[droidx]

Kenny has given up on 4th position along time ago. He wants to win the FA cup and smile at the end of season with a double ...


League cup win gets them into Europa , so players don't bother how far off the top they are.

That's a bad attitude to have though, not too long ago 4th was still achievable. Getting into the CL puts you back up with Europe's elite and brings inn more revenue than the FA cup and Carling cup combined. Sure on the one hand you have silverware, on the other hand it's small club mentality to be satisfied with that.

If the players don't care about league position they end up in because they have qualified for Europa, something is very wrong at the club. Pride for one should motivate them, your league position also determines revenue from the league.
I would feel ashamed if winning the Carling cup was my ticket to Europe. I would at least strive to qualify via the table.
Sure for teams like Birmingham it's an achievement to just be in Europe, but I would have thought Liverpool have more ambition.
Now I am aware that what you said is just the way you see things and not fact, but if that's the impression given to the fans it is indeed sad.
It's more exciting when pool are p pushing united to the end like in 09.
This is becoming like the whole Torres situation, funny at first, but afterwards it just gets real sad!

[MickeyD]

Anyone watch the Everton vs Spurs game? Sours 1-0 down and they went fullout on attack - with ATTITUDE!!!! We just about rolled aver and played dead in comparison.

[hawker]

Anyone watch the Everton vs Spurs game? Sours 1-0 down and they went fullout on attack - with ATTITUDE!!!! We just about rolled aver and played dead in comparison.

There is no bite, no "never say die."

When we play well we lose (Arsenal) when we play poorly we lose (Sunderland).

When Man Utd plays like poop they still bloody win!

[smokey]

Some #Kennyout stuff happening on Twitter. What about your history etc etc? I say we go and get #KeepKennyattheKop :D

[dbecks]

Some #Kennyout stuff happening on Twitter. What about your history etc etc? I say we go and get #KeepKennyattheKop :DLove live the King.....bwaaaahahahahahaha

[craigdoepie]

Some #Kennyout stuff happening on Twitter. What about your history etc etc? I say we go and get #KeepKennyattheKop :D

How times have changed, if I'm correct. Fergie didn't have the greatest few season at Utd and he turned them around. After 1 season people want the King to go. Guess FOOTBALL = NO PATIENCE and FAITH nowadays

[samr1wp]

How times have changed, if I'm correct. Fergie didn't have the greatest few season at Utd and he turned them around. After 1 season people want the King to go. Guess FOOTBALL = NO PATIENCE and FAITH nowadays

patience ...gerrard has been saying we will win next year, every year for last 10 years

[akescpt]

well realistically what was going to happen in this year...other than some questionable transfers...we have done ok...the biggest thing that worries me at the moment is the lack of young talent being produced..it concerns me that we are struggling for goals at the moment but cannot call on our reserve team striker/s..

surely a team of our size should have talent in the wings...

[hawker]

well realistically what was going to happen in this year...other than some questionable transfers...we have done ok...the biggest thing that worries me at the moment is the lack of young talent being produced..it concerns me that we are struggling for goals at the moment but cannot call on our reserve team striker/s..

surely a team of our size should have talent in the wings...

There is loads of young talent, they just don't get any game time.

Players like Shelvey should be playing every week, and then you get guys like Morgan, Suso, Sterling, Coady who should all be training with the 1st team and possibly get a few minutes in games.

This #KennyOut stuff is BS. This isn't Blackburn Rovers.

[akescpt]

There is loads of young talent, they just don't get any game time.

Players like Shelvey should be playing every week, and then you get guys like Morgan, Suso, Sterling, Coady who should all be training with the 1st team and possibly get a few minutes in games.

This #KennyOut stuff is BS. This isn't Blackburn Rovers.

I've watched them in a couple of reserve games. Why don't we see them. Why do I have to watch adam week in and week out? His horrible. Kenny should he messed up with some of his transfers.

How will we ever know if they good enough if they never get a chance?

[hawker]

I've watched them in a couple of reserve games. Why don't we see them. Why do I have to watch adam week in and week out? His horrible. Kenny should he messed up with some of his transfers.

How will we ever know if they good enough if they never get a chance?

We have to watch Adam week in and week out because KD is playing someone that can actually control the ball and run (Jonjo.)

Rumours that Suarez might be off to PSG in the summer...

Would understand if he left, and it could be a blessing in disguise.

[superskully]

We have to watch Adam week in and week out because KD is playing someone that can actually control the ball and run (Jonjo.)

Rumours that Suarez might be off to PSG in the summer...

Would understand if he left, and it could be a blessing in disguise.

They say KK inspires or puts the fear into the players.
I bet after the Arsenal loss, it was fear.
Look at Downing, does so well for England, but not for us, maye he's scared.
Anyway, i also think should atleast play some young guys, as we play with the same team over and over with no success.

Suarez will go, at 40 million.

[SinghDude]

Bring back Torres

[SukkaFoo]

Ja...had a look at a lot of those posts. Not a lot of Liverpool fans posting about Kenny out. Much like this thread I suppose it is mostly mancs...

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[akescpt]

i reckon saurez will be tempted. the scrutiny is unrelenting in england and after his run ins it wont stop. brilliant player though. transfer activity will be scrutinized as always. if commoli doesnt come through this summer then i reckon dump him.

[akescpt]

Bring back Torres

yes please i still smaak him greatly

[Alan]

i reckon saurez will be tempted. the scrutiny is unrelenting in england and after his run ins it wont stop. brilliant player though. transfer activity will be scrutinized as always. if commoli doesnt come through this summer then i reckon dump him.

nobody responsible for wasting 70mill on Carrol, Henderson and Downing deserves a second chance frankly

[akescpt]

nobody responsible for wasting 70mill on Carrol, Henderson and Downing deserves a second chance frankly

so how will we take him out?

[droidx]

Ja...had a look at a lot of those posts. Not a lot of Liverpool fans posting about Kenny out. Much like this thread I suppose it is mostly mancs...

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Really? The consensus I get from united fans is that they want Kenny to stay. why would they want a new manager when the current one is under performing?

[Alan]

so how will we take him out?

kneecapped. Frame an Evertonian :D

[akescpt]

kneecapped. Frame an Evertonian :D

Not gonna happen. What evertonian will prevent us from spending 35mil on another caroll?

[Alan]

Not gonna happen. What evertonian will prevent us from spending 35mil on another caroll?

think about it. What makes Evertonians 'special'?

[samr1wp]

Really? The consensus I get from united fans is that they want Kenny to stay. why would they want a new manager when the current one is under performing?

what soccer have you been watching ...which ever manager liverpool had never "win" them anything compare to united

you guys can have whoever but if you got krap players YNWA (you'll never win anything)

[hugo69er]

which ever manager liverpool had never "win" them anything compare to united

I don't understand the crap u talk

[Alan]

I don't understand the crap u talk

makes sense in TK. Rest of the forum not so much :erm:

[samr1wp]

I don't understand the crap u talk

they did win one or 2 trophys in last few years so that guy says we united fans want kenny to stay

none of liverpools past managers was a threat to us


makes sense in TK. Rest of the forum not so much :erm:

hahahahha :whistle:

[hugo69er]

O OK it makes sense now. sorry my bad....

United have only been winning in the last 20 years. Liverpool also had a good run in the passed. Man utds turn will come to an end soon. It has to, its just the way soccer is.

[samr1wp]

O OK it makes sense now. sorry my bad....

United have only been winning in the last 20 years. Liverpool also had a good run in the passed. Man utds turn will come to an end soon. It has to, its just the way soccer is.

haha yeah yeah ....liverpool need a arsene wenger guy who can build youngsters

[SinghDude]

haha yeah yeah ....liverpool need a arsene wenger guy who can build youngsters


...and sell them without winning anything ?

[samr1wp]

...and sell them without winning anything ?

haha that will hopefully change for the liverpool manager

[akescpt]

think about it. What makes Evertonians 'special'?

lol! :) thems be fighting words paaarrrrtnnnnnerrrrrr!

[akescpt]

dont need a wenger, just need a manager who is willing to use the talented youngsters. its about balance, always is. youngsters want to make a name. hungry for success. that should be exploited.

[R13...]

dont need a wenger, just need a manager who is willing to use the talented youngsters. its about balance, always is. youngsters want to make a name. hungry for success. that should be exploited.
Using youngsters requires you risk going the season trophyless. I mean you guys play your first team against lower tier sides in the league cup.

[droidx]

they did win one or 2 trophys in last few years so that guy says we united fans want kenny to stay

none of liverpools past managers was a threat to us



hahahahha :whistle:

Do you want Kenny to leave?
The team is under performing.
I believe they can do better with their current crop.
Raga pushed united to the end one season, he took them to a CL final with a side which in the previous season didn't do too well.
He won them the FA cup and only toward the end with ownership issues the team collapsed.
Kenny is spending loads of money on questionable signings, has them set up very defensively. Send him packing now and a better manager might make them a threat again due to better signings and man management.
If you think things won't turn for them them that's your opinion.
I think the squad is capable of more and all it takes is a good manager to get them there.

[MickeyD]

Using youngsters requires you risk going the season trophyless. I mean you guys play your first team against lower tier sides in the league cup.
And exactly what is our first team nowadays ??????

[akescpt]

Using youngsters requires you risk going the season trophyless. I mean you guys play your first team against lower tier sides in the league cup.
How do you risk going trophyless by using a youngster for 10 or 15 minutes at the end of a game. You can't do it indiscriminately but there are lots of opportunity. When you don't have congested fixture list you can do that.

[samr1wp]

Do you want Kenny to leave?
The team is under performing.
I believe they can do better with their current crop.
Raga pushed united to the end one season, he took them to a CL final with a side which in the previous season didn't do too well.
He won them the FA cup and only toward the end with ownership issues the team collapsed.
Kenny is spending loads of money on questionable signings, has them set up very defensively. Send him packing now and a better manager might make them a threat again due to better signings and man management.
If you think things won't turn for them them that's your opinion.
I think the squad is capable of more and all it takes is a good manager to get them there.

i just said that ....need someone who can make this youngsters show they full potential

[akescpt]

And exactly what is our first team nowadays ??????

Adam is the first name on! The ball orbiter!

[akescpt]

What's the possibility of rafa waiting for kenny to fail. Rafa needs to manage the team. Fullstop. His performance nosedived when he pretended to be rednose at liverpool.

[samr1wp]

Adam is the first name on! The ball orbiter!

hahahaa na his ball landed safely ....they have now decided to let him take penaltys in closed arenas

[Nimz]

So there is news of Suarez wanting to join PSG :mad:

[hawker]

So there is news of Suarez wanting to join PSG :mad:

He can leave, if we get good money for him and invest the money WISELY then it shouldn't be a problem.

[Randhir]

So there is news of Suarez wanting to join PSG :mad:

He's just paying back all the loyalty LFC showed him through the racism debacle.

What a lovable character, hey? :)

[RedWill]

So there is news of Suarez wanting to join PSG :mad:

Load of BS. He was just chatting to a French TV show, and orginally said in Spanish, which was then translated to French, which was then translated to English: "I would love to play at the same club as him (fellow Uruguayan Diego Lugano)". This guy plays at PSG....so obviously the papers just hyped it up.

[hawker]

Load of BS. He was just chatting to a French TV show, and orginally said in Spanish, which was then translated to French, which was then translated to English: "I would love to play at the same club as him (fellow Uruguayan Diego Lugano)". This guy plays at PSG....so obviously the papers just hyped it up.

Well PSG mean business these days so I wouldn't put it past him.

[kat06sa]

Modric wanted out too. And he went nowhere.

[LMFAO]

dont need a wenger, just need a manager who is willing to use the talented youngsters. its about balance, always is. youngsters want to make a name. hungry for success. that should be exploited.

That manager would be MON. perfect guy to get the best out of squad. give him a kitty of 50m quid and he will get bargains and get the team to gel. we just need someone to get us into a Champions League spot and the rest will follow with bigger names wanting to come.

United are where they are because of fergie alone. any other manager could have not done what he has done all these years. i think we need to cut our losses with kenny and the rejects and look on the bright side.

getting rid of kenny will not happen that easy. owners are backing him all the way, i guess for another season if he does not get the 4th spot.

[hawker]

That manager would be MON. perfect guy to get the best out of squad. give him a kitty of 50m quid and he will get bargains and get the team to gel. we just need someone to get us into a Champions League spot and the rest will follow with bigger names wanting to come.

United are where they are because of fergie alone. any other manager could have not done what he has done all these years. i think we need to cut our losses with kenny and the rejects and look on the bright side.

getting rid of kenny will not happen that easy. owners are backing him all the way, i guess for another season if he does not get the 4th spot.

Not sure why you are so keen to get rid of Kenny. He brought us our first piece of silverware in 6 years. He is the person that most wants LFC to do well.

The @KennyOut account on twitter is run by a manc, not even an LFC supporter.

We have a fairly solid defence, we dominate possession in almost all games the only issue we have is scoring goals.

[LMFAO]

Not sure why you are so keen to get rid of Kenny. He brought us our first piece of silverware in 6 years. He is the person that most wants LFC to do well.

The @KennyOut account on twitter is run by a manc, not even an LFC supporter.

We have a fairly solid defence, we dominate possession in almost all games the only issue we have is scoring goals.


we will not win anything playing defensively. kenny cannot get the most of the squad i'm afraid. i don't see kenny giving us 4 spot next season

[hawker]

we will not win anything playing defensively. kenny cannot get the most of the squad i'm afraid. i don't see kenny giving us 4 spot next season

Well title wins are built on solid defences. Look at Man Utd over the years, same as Arsenal (the invincibles.). If you don't concede a goal there is always a chance to win the game.

6/7 of the regulars in the 1st team had never played together before this season, its still a work in progress.

If you want instant success go support some other club.

[Randhir]

If you want instant success go support some other club.

14 months and 100million is hardly 'instant'.

[hawker]

14 months and 100million is hardly 'instant'.

It took City 3 seasons to get where they are now, and they are still aren't top of the league.

[Randhir]

It took City 3 seasons to get where they are now, and they are still aren't top of the league.

Three years ago Liverpool finished 2nd. City have made vertical movement in the League. Liverpool were 7th last year iirc, on track to finish 7th this year.

[hawker]

Three years ago Liverpool finished 2nd. City have made vertical movement in the League. Liverpool were 7th last year iirc, on track to finish 7th this year.

When KK took over we were 12th? Going from 12th to 7th is vertical movement.

Let's judge whether the season was a success or not at the end of the season, yes?

[samr1wp]

liverpool have won 1 in last 8 ...drew 2 and lost 5 ...that is seriously bad

[greg0205]

When KK took over we were 12th? Going from 12th to 7th is vertical movement.

Let's judge whether the season was a success or not at the end of the season, yes?

I'll second... Motion carried. ;)

[Randhir]

When KK took over we were 12th? Going from 12th to 7th is vertical movement.


True I suppose, though I was comparing end of season results.



Let's judge whether the season was a success or not at the end of the season, yes?

Fair enough.

[SinghDude]

PSG are the Man City of France.

[SinghDude]

KK wants the FA Cup and perhaps the Charity shield to offer some hope for ailing fans....

[hawker]

liverpool have won 1 in last 8 ...drew 2 and lost 5 ...that is seriously bad

Thanks Captain Obvious, would you like a Noddy badge?


True I suppose, though I was comparing end of season results.



If you are comparing that then 2nd, to 6th, to 7th isn't good reading no.

[RedWill]

FSG won't just get rid of Kenny at the end of this season...providing the losing streak isn't extended further :(. After the saving job accomplished last season, he was given a 3yr contract with the mandate to rebuild the team and get them back in the top 4. Already silverware was achieved with the Carling Cup and there is still a chance with the FA Cup. Although the league has been disappointing to say the least, this has to be seen in the context of having had to clear deadwood from the squad and integrating half a new team into the Liverpool way. This has not happened as fast as most would hope, and some of the squad are either not adapting or not good enough for that *cough*Adam*cough…but some of the performances (not results) suggest there is some progression towards that…

Of course we have to smash Everton tonight otherwise Kenny must go! :p

[smokey]

What is the "Liverpool Way" exactly? Is it not winning the title for 20 odd years? The thing is - that "Liverpool Way" has been long lost. A new "way" needs to be found, and whether KK is the right person to do it remains to be seen.

[Xmailer9]

isn't the liverpool way, their traditional passing game ? :o
kenny definetly has to change his tactics, or liverpool will be in big trouble.

liverpool will have to get 30 points from their last 10 games to even stand a chance of 4th.

[hugo69er]

isn't the liverpool way, their traditional passing game ? :o
kenny definetly has to change his tactics, or liverpool will be in big trouble.

liverpool will have to get 30 points from their last 10 games to even stand a chance of 4th.

I'm a Liverpool fan but 10 wins in a row is very unlikely right now... let's hope I'm wrong.

[RedWill]

What is the "Liverpool Way" exactly? Is it not winning the title for 20 odd years? The thing is - that "Liverpool Way" has been long lost. A new "way" needs to be found, and whether KK is the right person to do it remains to be seen.

Well it was King Kenny who last managed to lead Liverpool to a title....so i'm hoping he has got some idea on how to get The Way back :o

[LMFAO]

I'm a Liverpool fan but 10 wins in a row is very unlikely right now... let's hope I'm wrong.

doubt it that we will even win 5 of them.
lets hope he brings in the yougsters for the last few games and save the established players for the fa cup. if we lose tonight then i think kenny will be under pressure for the rest of the season.

[RedWill]

isn't the liverpool way, their traditional passing game ? :o
kenny definetly has to change his tactics, or liverpool will be in big trouble.

liverpool will have to get 30 points from their last 10 games to even stand a chance of 4th.

That, the pass and move game. The way teams were dominated by the Reds controlling the game. Much like how it was against Arsenal at Anfield...just the small matter of actually putting the ball in the back of the net that still needs to be sorted out...

[Alan]

Well it was King Kenny who last managed to lead Liverpool to a title....so i'm hoping he has got some idea on how to get The Way back :o

He says otherwise and is sticking to it


Liverpool have scored just 30 Premier League goals this season, and only five clubs have scored fewer. Their failure to convert chances - in evidence during the 2-1 defeat to Arsenal last weekend - has left Liverpool ten points off fourth place, but Dalglish remains happy with overall performances.

"We have got to put the finishing touches to the good work that we have done," Dalglish said. "Whoever comes up with the solution, whether it is a centre-back getting 20 goals a season, I'm not really bothered. We just need to find a solution and a bit of the good fortune, too.

"We've been delighted with the way we've played but disappointed with some of the results because they haven't always reflected the performances. If they hadn't been playing as well then they'd not have created the chances. It's a results-driven business so maybe that is the priority but I don't think we'll ever change the way we play or our principles.

"We keep saying there's going to be one game where we don't play as well as we're capable of and walk away with three points - we're still waiting for it though."

[akescpt]

liverpool needs a robbie fowler in the box. that is all. no one is scoring the chances. they playing fine otherwise. if we had a decent striker he would have like 30 league goals or something silly like that. on a defensive performance like we have had this year we should be walking the top 3 but unfortunately we impotent infront of the goal.

[RedWill]

liverpool needs a robbie fowler in the box. that is all. no one is scoring the chances. they playing fine otherwise. if we had a decent striker he would have like 30 league goals or something silly like that. on a defensive performance like we have had this year we should be walking the top 3 but unfortunately we impotent infront of the goal.

Think Fowler is actually available on a free transfer, maybe Kenny should sign him up and just park him in the box, no need to run around :p Of course he'd be caught offside most of the time so that will still render us impotent.. :cry:

Seriously tho, since no changes can be made now, Kenny should just play all the expensive signings and see if they can find an understanding or gel, i.e. Carrol, Suarez, Downing all must start as much as possible with Gerrard, Adam, Spearing/Henderson in midfield. The league season is already belly-up so results won't make much of a diff; it's all about making the team work and have them play well and scoring loads of goals. If not, Kenny can hold his hands up and tell the owners, look, I tried but this lot ain't good enough...gimme money for new players.

[akescpt]

Think Fowler is actually available on a free transfer, maybe Kenny should sign him up and just park him in the box, no need to run around :p Of course he'd be caught offside most of the time so that will still render us impotent.. :cry:

Seriously tho, since no changes can be made now, Kenny should just play all the expensive signings and see if they can find an understanding or gel, i.e. Carrol, Suarez, Downing all must start as much as possible with Gerrard, Adam, Spearing/Henderson in midfield. The league season is already belly-up so results won't make much of a diff; it's all about making the team work and have them play well and scoring loads of goals. If not, Kenny can hold his hands up and tell the owners, look, I tried but this lot ain't good enough...gimme money for new players.

I would actually prefer if our talented youngsters get a go. One flaw in your plan. I would be thinking twice about spending big. There a couple of expensive flops there. Downing hasn't exploded but he gets extra time. Adam is this years poulsen for me. Henderson has shown glimpses but for the game time he has received it has not been a good roi. We need a central midfielder and a decent wing. And striker of course. Didn't we fight with other teams to by coady? Afterall that effort I haven't even seen him in the team.

[hawker]

Thing is, Carroll starts getting some form together scores a goal or two, gets a few assists and then KD sticks him on the bench *facepalm*

WHY!?

[akescpt]

Thing is, Carroll starts getting some form together scores a goal or two, gets a few assists and then KD sticks him on the bench *facepalm*

WHY!?

funny how we complained when rafa did it but no one complains now. i agree about carroll btw. when you look at maxis record infront of goal you dont understand why he is warming the bench. for me it seems kenny feels compelled to play his flops..

[hawker]

funny how we complained when rafa did it but no one complains now. i agree about carroll btw. when you look at maxis record infront of goal you dont understand why he is warming the bench. for me it seems kenny feels compelled to play his flops..

Yup, Maxi was in great scoring form end of last season, and has scored a few when has gotten an actual chance this season.

Stats on maxi: http://basstunedtored.com/2012/03/11/missing-maxi/


Maxi Rodriguez finished last season in surely the best form of his entire career. In his final four starts for Liverpool he scored seven goals, including two hat-tricks. Not only that, but he was in the match day squad of eighteen for every single league game last season, aside from the final day defeat at Villa Park, so it seems that he was a good player to have at the team’s disposal throughout the season, under both Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dalglish.

Yet this season he has largely been frozen out, and I can’t think of any logical reason why.

cntd in link

[akescpt]

Another question that needs to be answered about this season. Nice find on the article. You have a midfielder who has scored regularly in thee past but you don't play him? And you are starving for goals? It's like you drowning but refuse to use the air apparatus because you never bought it yourself. Instead you opt for the straw that you purchased yourself...

Madness...

[superskully]

Thing is, yes we need strikers to score, everyone needs to contribute.
I bet gerrard has a better record this season than downing adam and henderson.

[smokey]

@OptaJoe: 44 - S. Downing has created more chances than any other player who hasn't made an assist in the PL this season.

:o

[hawker]

@OptaJoe: 44 - S. Downing has created more chances than any other player who hasn't made an assist in the PL this season.

:o

More of a reflection on our inability to finish than his chance creating ability.

[akescpt]

Thing is, yes we need strikers to score, everyone needs to contribute.
I bet gerrard has a better record this season than downing adam and henderson.

Tbh he has been sub par since returning. Doesn't look like the fearless player he was before these long term injuries. I have never seen him miss so shots on target. Dstv compact sux lately for liverpool fans :(

[hawker]

GERRARD!!! BOOM! :D

[RedWill]

Tbh he has been sub par since returning. Doesn't look like the fearless player he was before these long term injuries. I have never seen him miss so shots on target. Dstv compact sux lately for liverpool fans :(

That finish was anything but sub par! :D Captain Fantastic STRIKES!

[SukkaFoo]

What an awesome first half, where has this team been?

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[hawker]

What an awesome first half, where has this team been?



Twiddling their thumbs. Lets hope the 2nd half is even better. :D

[RedWill]

Hope they keep it up. Although Gerrard didn't look good coming off, seems to have picked up a knock...definitely won't play the whole game, if they make the change i hope Henderson will be moved central - he has been half decent so far actually - and put on Diggler to plug the right hand side because thats where Everton has been building most of their play from.

[RedWill]

STEVIE G!!! LEGEND - HAT TRICK!

[hawker]

Gerrard!

BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!!

:D

LFC, please play like this every week!

[Xmailer9]

Now why can't they play like that all the time ?
1x 3 pointer down, 9 to go...

[Nimz]

Stevie G!

What a match - Top team performance and well deserved win!

Lets hope they play the same way in the FA Cup

:D

[Randhir]

Congrats on the win guys :)

[hawker]

Congrats on the win guys :)

Thank you! :) Bit a rarity this year, but I'll take it with open arms :)

Another thing that might make you guys laugh:

RT “@themichaelowen: Anyone know who Dalglish always turns to celebrate to when Liverpool score at Anfield?” THE FANS YOU TIT. (Twitter)

Micheal Owen with a real gem there^

[bex.cpt]

Some say, his getting old and that his knees are like jelly. All we can say is HATRICK.

I was starting to lose faith in the 11 men on the field but last night they shone like the lights we know them to be. Now we need some consistency. If they can continue to play this way we can rise in the LOG.

Well done boys you restored my faith in Anfield.

[SinghDude]

Was about time Everton lose.....


Now for some FA cup success.

[LMFAO]

yeah, good game from the guys. just shows you if captain fantastic plays the team looks good overall. thats the difference between gerrard and adam. doubt the scoreline would have been the same if adam played instead of gerrard. good confidence booster for the fa cup against Stoke this weekend.

someone else needs to stepup if gerrard is no longer Mr LIVERPOOL

STEVEN GERRARD, GERRARD

[RedWill]

yeah, good game from the guys. just shows you if captain fantastic plays the team looks good overall. thats the difference between gerrard and adam. doubt the scoreline would have been the same if adam played instead of gerrard. good confidence booster for the fa cup against Stoke this weekend.

someone else needs to stepup if gerrard is no longer Mr LIVERPOOL

STEVEN GERRARD, GERRARD

+1

[SinghDude]

.....pssst.




Did anybody notice the weakened team put out by Moyes ? :erm:



David had an eye out for the upcoming FA cup tie....

[RedWill]

Hopefully Kenny has now finally seen Charlie Adam's best position: on the BENCH.

[hawker]

.....pssst.




Did anybody notice the weakened team put out by Moyes ? :erm:



David had an eye out for the upcoming FA cup tie....

Does it matter? You can only beat the team in front of you.


Hopefully Kenny has now finally seen Charlie Adam's best position: on the BENCH.

This.

I'd play Shelvey instead of Adam :D

[SinghDude]

Its a bit much raving over a performance against a weakened team.


The loss to Arsenal was a better show.... guess its the win that counts.


Adam is also proving to be a flop with his limited abilities..... :sick:

[LMFAO]

I'd play Shelvey instead of Adam :D

I 2nd that

Adam has lost the plot now. he is no more then a squad player. we only need a striker, TORRES/TEVEZ/DEFOE and a offensive midfielder like HAZARD/MODRIC class

[4cer]

whats sad, is Suarez and Gerrard are linking up like strikers should :P But Carrol was playing a lot better than usual.

[craigdoepie]

I 2nd that

Adam has lost the plot now. he is no more then a squad player. we only need a striker, TORRES/TEVEZ/DEFOE and a offensive midfielder like HAZARD/MODRIC class

Can't agree more, even if I wanted to. Look how well we played and how fast we countered without Adam on the field. Coincidence that we played so well without Adam. Me think not.

And how's bout Carrol as a defender, that last few minutes he defended quite well. Maybe Kenny should think of making Carrol a defensive player.

And I must say Downing and Enrique linked up quite nicely on the left. Had some nice interplays, but lets hope they can keep up this performance week in and week out for at least another 10 weeks. That is all I ask

[LMFAO]

Can't agree more, even if I wanted to. Look how well we played and how fast we countered without Adam on the field. Coincidence that we played so well without Adam. Me think not.

And how's bout Carrol as a defender, that last few minutes he defended quite well. Maybe Kenny should think of making Carrol a defensive player.

And I must say Downing and Enrique linked up quite nicely on the left. Had some nice interplays, but lets hope they can keep up this performance week in and week out for at least another 10 weeks. That is all I ask

yip, only time will tell. I think Stoke is going to be a physical battle as usual

[greg0205]

And how's bout Carrol as a defender, that last few minutes he defended quite well. Maybe Kenny should think of making Carrol a defensive player.

Yeah, yeah... We've all bitched 'bout him but I really like the kid. Not the first time he's been back in defense. He goes looking for work and I really appreciate that.

[craigdoepie]

Yeah, yeah... We've all bitched 'bout him but I really like the kid. Not the first time he's been back in defense. He goes looking for work and I really appreciate that.

Not the biggest fan of Carroll, but I say give him time. He is still young and hoping he will mature with age. And also hoping with maturity he starts playing better. Must say he had some nice touches last night

[superskully]

Tbh he has been sub par since returning. Doesn't look like the fearless player he was before these long term injuries. I have never seen him miss so shots on target. Dstv compact sux lately for liverpool fans :(

The dude heard you, you dissed him and he showed you, ha ha ha :D

Serioulsy though, he is much older together with more injuries means he is never going to play at the same level as before. But he is still miles ahead of the rest in the team.

BTW, how about Suarez for unselfishness on the last goal, or maybe it was lack of confidence:whistle:

[greg0205]

The dude heard you, you dissed him and he showed you, ha ha ha :D

Serioulsy though, he is much older together with more injuries means he is never going to play at the same level as before. But he is still miles ahead of the rest in the team.

BTW, how about Suarez for unselfishness on the last goal, or maybe it was lack of confidence:whistle:

No lack of confidence getting past two defenders in the box for Stevie's second. :D

[4cer]

and for those talking about stevie G being a defender :whistle:

i think suarez just trusts stevie G! So he will let him try :P

[dbecks]

He was always a good player but lost his passion. Pity it only seems to come back in a game like this

[superskully]

Outfield Statistics
NUM NAME GS SB G SH SG A FC FS YC RC
3 José Enrique 31 1 0 17 7 2 21 28 2 0
26 Charlie Adam 30 4 2 60 17 6 66 46 4 1
14 Jordan Henderson 30 4 1 33 12 3 24 7 2 0
37 Martin Skrtel 30 3 4 21 7 1 30 15 2 1
19 Stewart Downing 26 7 1 64 23 1 15 22 1 0
5 Daniel Agger 25 1 1 24 7 1 17 26 4 0
7 Luis Suárez 25 2 10 114 44 6 32 65 3 0
2 Glen Johnson 21 1 1 25 9 2 17 24 2 0
9 Andrew Carroll 20 14 6 73 28 3 36 30 3 0
18 Dirk Kuyt 20 12 4 51 18 1 26 20 3 0
23 Jamie Carragher 17 4 0 1 0 0 7 10 3 0
21 Lucas 15 0 0 7 0 1 23 13 5 0
39 Craig Bellamy 14 15 9 42 16 5 22 14 5 0
20 Jay Spearing 14 1 0 7 2 1 8 14 1 1
34 Martin Kelly 14 1 1 8 4 0 13 5 1 0
8 Steven Gerrard 12 7 4 33 14 3 9 7 1 0
11 Maxi Rodríguez 11 3 4 15 9 2 7 13 0 0
- Sebastian Coates 4 0 0 1 0 0 4 0 1 0
49 Jack Robinson 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
38 John Flanagan 2 2 0 1 1 2 3 4 0 0
33 Jonjo Shelvey 2 5 1 7 4 1 3 1 0 0
16 Sebastián Coates 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0
- Danny Wilson 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 Fabio Aurelio 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team/squad/_/id/364/league/all/liverpool?cc=3888

[superskully]

Outfield Statistics
NUM NAME GS SB G SH SG A FC FS YC RC
3 José Enrique 31 1 0 17 7 2 21 28 2 0
26 Charlie Adam 30 4 2 60 17 6 66 46 4 1
14 Jordan Henderson 30 4 1 33 12 3 24 7 2 0
37 Martin Skrtel 30 3 4 21 7 1 30 15 2 1
19 Stewart Downing 26 7 1 64 23 1 15 22 1 0
8 Steven Gerrard 12 7 4 33 14 3 9 7 1 0


Charlie Adam, Downing and Henderson are in top 5 that started the most.
4 goals between then.
Gerrard has 4 plus 3 from yesterday.

[Alan]

Great result. Fantastic

Almost makes all that other crap the team puts us through worth while.

There are no words that can do Gerrard justice.

[smokey]

Great result. Fantastic

Almost makes all that other crap the team puts us through worth while.

There are no words that can do Gerrard justice.

Wasted Talent.

[Xmailer9]

Great result. Fantastic

Almost makes all that other crap the team puts us through worth while.

There are no words that can do Gerrard justice.

It really was a great result, but to rely so heavily upon one individual is not good.

[akescpt]

Wasted Talent.

Why?

[4cer]

It really was a great result, but to rely so heavily upon one individual is not good.

seems arsenal does ok with that style :P

[smokey]

Why?

He played all that time for Liverpool...

(I thought it was obvious actually)

[MickeyD]

He played all that time for Liverpool...

(I thought it was obvious actually)
You're right. Imagine if he'd moved to Real Madrid, Barcelona, etc. what he would have achieved?

[smokey]

You're right. Imagine if he'd moved to Real Madrid, Barcelona, etc. what he would have achieved?

I reckon Madrid would have been a better option for him than Barca. He's a Galactico, no doubt about it. (or at least was, age being considered)

[SinghDude]

Big money moves dont necessarily translate into playing better or achieving success. Gerrard going to Chelsea might have worked or NOT.

Just look at how Chelsea fsked up Torres........



English players moving over to spain.... hmmmmm

Woodgate, Steve Mcmanaman..... even Beckam to an extent... DID IT WORK OUT ????? nope !!!!!!


Reverse is also true.... some truely remarkable European and South American talents come to England and their careers spiral drastically downhill due to weird reasons like booze, weather and the ugly English broads.....:whistle:

[akescpt]

He played all that time for Liverpool...

(I thought it was obvious actually)

so one can only fullfill your potential at manure?

[RedWill]

so one can only fullfill your potential at manure?

Yeah, look at Owen...he really fulfilled his potential...:erm:

[Randhir]

so one can only fullfill your potential at manure?

Because obviously staying at Klanfield is doing wonders for him.

[dbecks]

Yeah, look at Owen...he really fulfilled his potential...:erm:He has an EPL medal which is more than the entire Liverpool squad

[akescpt]

Because obviously staying at Klanfield is doing wonders for him.

Gerard was head and shoulders above other midfielders in his prime. He was the best. Manure might have a better unit but not a midfielder like him. To suggest stevie didn't reach his full potential by choosing to stay by a club he loves is just silly.

[greg0205]

Gerard was head and shoulders above other midfielders in his prime. He was the best. Manure might have a better unit but not a midfielder like him. To suggest stevie didn't reach his full potential by choosing to stay by a club he loves is just silly.

Amen to that!

[Randhir]

Gerard was head and shoulders above other midfielders in his prime. He was the best. Manure might have a better unit but not a midfielder like him.

Haha, OK then. I guess someone will always believe something..