Anyone know what happened at Cavendish Square today?

[chopsky]

When I entered Cavendish today, part of the center had been cordened off. The area was surrounded with security guards and policemen. Looked like there had been a death (suicide, murder?)
Anyone who was there today or heard about it, know what happened?

[waynegohl]

i heard there were two bodies lying near the fruit market in epping today but nothing was reported on the news.

[chopsky]

ok, but epping != cavendish

[waynegohl]

i did not mean they are related but only that there was no information about these two incidents.

[Fiekus]

ok, but epping != cavendish

lol, developer? :D

[Chris]

I heard on the radio that it was a suicide.

[gdiza]

more details... I love skinner!

[odiate]

Apparently a guy and his girlfriend were arguing and she broke up with him saying "it's over" and he replied "yah it's over" and as she walked away he took a dive from the floor above CNA and landed a floor down head first. The guy was lying their with some medic and his girlfriend and obviously the blood loss from his head was too much, and according to word of mouth he apparently died.

How stupid, all for a girl.

Weird part is, i think he was probably just trying to scare her by taking the jump assuming it wasn't that high, but i think gravity got the better of this situation.

BTW the blood was just puddled around his head, and i think he was probably unconscious after the knock.

[chopsky]

Holy ****. That is mad.

And stupid.

[BTTB]

From what I can gather there was a Bergie laying dead covered up next to the road in Constantia today. Nearby lay an empty bottle of wine. We surmise he may have died from exposure?

[Shake&Bake]

Been looking on News24 and IOL for confirmation of this - nothing as yet.
Darn... what a shame...

[Cea$erMan]

Apparently a guy and his girlfriend were arguing and she broke up with him saying "it's over" and he replied "yah it's over" and as she walked away he took a dive from the floor above CNA and landed a floor down head first. The guy was lying their with some medic and his girlfriend and obviously the blood loss from his head was too much, and according to word of mouth he apparently died.

How stupid, all for a girl.

Weird part is, i think he was probably just trying to scare her by taking the jump assuming it wasn't that high, but i think gravity got the better of this situation.

BTW the blood was just puddled around his head, and i think he was probably unconscious after the knock.

Seriously? Where'd you hear this? :eek:

[Nickste]

Yep, I heard the same story as odiate. My girlfriend's mom was there a couple of seconds after he took the dive. She was standing next to a woman who saw the whole thing. Apparently the security guys were on the scene REALLY quickly, and the guy didn't die straight away. Poor girl, she must have been distraught :(

[kiepie]

Yep, I heard the same story as odiate. My girlfriend's mom was there a couple of seconds after he took the dive. She was standing next to a woman who saw the whole thing. Apparently the security guys were on the scene REALLY quickly, and the guy didn't die straight away. Poor girl, she must have been distraught :(

Yuip, they never think of the people they leave behind! :(

[PeterCH]

Poor girl, she must have been distraught :(

Poor girl? What about the guy who actually lost his life. Sheesh, what
a way to go and all for a girl.

[Nickste]

Poor girl? What about the guy who actually lost his life. Sheesh, what
a way to go and all for a girl.
Everyone has their own issues that they have to deal with.. but taking one's own life is the easy way out - you don't have to deal with it, but the people you leave behind do.

[kiepie]

Everyone has their own issues that they have to deal with.. but taking one's own life is the easy way out - you don't have to deal with it, but the people you leave behind do.

Selfish IMHO! :rolleyes: :(

[PostmanPot]

:eek:

[Lord Anubis]

Domgeid het nie pille!

[gregmcc]

Sheesh - that's terrible. Either he had problems or really misjudged the height.

What a way to go!

[kevinswan007]

maybe she pushed him...

[Syndyre]

Poor girl? What about the guy who actually lost his life. Sheesh, what
a way to go and all for a girl.

He made his choice, he didn't have to involve her in it and make her feel terrible.

[boramk]

Hmmm, imagine living your life knowing you got someone killed

[Kokop]

Hmmm, the power of collectivism.

Nothing goes unknown.

[Cea$erMan]

Poor girl? What about the guy who actually lost his life. Sheesh, what
a way to go and all for a girl.

This. F**k the girl!

[Syndyre]

This. F**k the girl!

What?

[.geek]

Hmmm, imagine living your life knowing you got someone killed

Elaborate "got someone killed"? :confused::eek:

That girl can take no blame from what that guy chose to do.

[Syndyre]

Elaborate "got someone killed"? :confused::eek:

That girl can take no blame from what that guy chose to do.

She shouldn't but its only natural to at least partially blame yourself.

[.geek]

She shouldn't but its only natural to at least partially blame yourself.

Yes definitely. Maybe I misinterpreted the phrasing of boramk's statement.

[ghoti]

Darwin award material.

[gregmcc]

Darwin award material.

What would have been a Darwin award is is she left, walked downstairs. The guy then jumped landing on top of her killing them both :)

I think she's going to be emotionally scared for life - better go and see a shrink. Its not her fault at all but she will end up blaming herself - the so will the guys family.

[Kokop]

Darwin award material.

Definitely. Who is gonna submit this one?

Sorry, you gotta be real daft to try this stunt:rolleyes:

[sand_man]

I believe I can fly... I believe I can touc... eh nevermind...

[PeterCH]

He made his choice, he didn't have to involve her in it and make her feel terrible.

I'm not condoning suicide by any means. However if this girl was a selfish
cow and mistreated this guy then maybe she deserves some remorse now.
I don't know the details of the story or if it was a planned suicide or
a mistake on the part of this guy, but no matter what, HE paid the ULTIMATE
price, she can get on with her life - if the story so far is correct - its not
as if she's going to miss him.

Sometimes people have to be careful. Relationships get very emotional
and some people are unstable. If he had a particular disorder he
may have killed her, at least he killed himself unlike some others
who commit family murder-suicides.

[PeterCH]

I think she's going to be emotionally scared for life - better go and see a shrink. Its not her fault at all but she will end up blaming herself - the so will the guys family.

Sometimes we have to live with our choices. We don't know the whole
story but if she was playing games with this guy, and he had depression
or a personality disorder, well she can blame herself a little. Maybe
she could have been more gentle with the guy in doing what she did.
Then again we don't know the details, maybe he was a scumbag and
she was innocent. Still suicide is not the way out but for people
with psychological disorders, rational solutions don't come to mind.
Senseless tragedy either way, however we shouldn't just blame
the guy who did it. Mental illness is a real cause of suicide.

[Syndyre]

I'm not condoning suicide by any means. However if this girl was a selfish
cow and mistreated this guy then maybe she deserves some remorse now.
I don't know the details of the story or if it was a planned suicide or
a mistake on the part of this guy, but no matter what, HE paid the ULTIMATE
price, she can get on with her life - if the story so far is correct - its not
as if she's going to miss him.

Sometimes people have to be careful. Relationships get very emotional
and some people are unstable. If he had a particular disorder he
may have killed her, at least he killed himself unlike some others
who commit family murder-suicides.

Even if she's not going to miss him I'm sure it'll have a major impact on her, whether she's in any way responsible or not it doesn't mean she won't blame herself.

[gregmcc]

I believe I can fly... I believe I can touc... eh nevermind...

Sorry - you shouldn't laugh at other people's misfortune....but hahahahah. Good one! :D:D

[LancelotSA]

Now this may sound harsh and unsympathetic (and if the truth be known I have no sympathy for people who take their own lives) but if he was as psychotic as he appears she may be better off actually having him out of her life... seems like he may have caused her major problems going forward...

[LancelotSA]

Sometimes we have to live with our choices. We don't know the whole
story but if she was playing games with this guy, and he had depression
or a personality disorder, well she can blame herself a little. Maybe
she could have been more gentle with the guy in doing what she did.
Then again we don't know the details, maybe he was a scumbag and
she was innocent. Still suicide is not the way out but for people
with psychological disorders, rational solutions don't come to mind.
Senseless tragedy either way, however we shouldn't just blame
the guy who did it. Mental illness is a real cause of suicide.

Cr_p man!! She is not to blame in the slightest unless she pushed him! I have had run ins with people, relationships that have ended etc etc but I have to deal with it. Yes, he may be unstable but is it up to the other person to do a psychological analysis on someone before they start dating them to make sure. And then if she did know must she just stay unhappily with him because he threatens to kill himself? I have had friends that have had exes threaten to kill themselves if they leave them. Pathetic!

[nivek]

Now this may sound harsh and unsympathetic (and if the truth be known I have no sympathy for people who take their own lives) but if he was as psychotic as he appears she may be better off actually having him out of her life... seems like he may have caused her major problems going forward...

was thinking the same... if the guy was obsessed with her enough to kill himself over her then i dont blame her for leaving him, obviously she could never have predicted what he was going to do then and there..

obsession is a disease

[brewil]

Its all Speculation. speculation about who these people are and what their relationship was. Ultimately its a tragedy for him and a tragedy for her and we cant understand because we werent in that relationship and we arent who they are. the only people who know what went on in that relationship is them. and why all this judgment and blame. blaming a woman who possibly told someone to jump who did and a man so distraught that he took his own life. maybe you should watch the documentary called "the Bridge" about the Golden Gate Bridge suicide jumpers-its on youtube. its enlightening and tragic and educational. cant believe such callous jokes about this. no one has a right to judge.

[chopsky]

Selfish IMHO! :rolleyes: :(

Selfless actually. You really think suicide was in his best interest?

[chopsky]

Even if she's not going to miss him I'm sure it'll have a major impact on her, whether she's in any way responsible or not it doesn't mean she won't blame herself.

She'll more than likely feel responsible for as long as she lets her emotions guide her thought, rather than her mind. Hopefully in time she'd realise it wasn't her fault.

[LancelotSA]

Its all Speculation. speculation about who these people are and what their relationship was. Ultimately its a tragedy for him and a tragedy for her and we cant understand because we werent in that relationship and we arent who they are. the only people who know what went on in that relationship is them. and why all this judgment and blame. blaming a woman who possibly told someone to jump who did and a man so distraught that he took his own life. maybe you should watch the documentary called "the Bridge" about the Golden Gate Bridge suicide jumpers-its on youtube. its enlightening and tragic and educational. cant believe such callous jokes about this. no one has a right to judge.

First post on the forum and it is this one. Are you in any way involved in the situation?

I don't care the circumstances I will still air my view that I have no feelings of compassion for anyone who commits suicide. There is ALWAYS another solution!

[DJ...]

no one has a right to judge.

Bull****. I have every right to judge. Who are you to tell me what rights I can and cant have?

[sand_man]

Bull****. I have every right to judge. Who are you to tell me what rights I can and cant have?
Why you keep changing your name? I'm not judging, just asking...

[eaglebeaver]

Its all Speculation. speculation about who these people are and what their relationship was. Ultimately its a tragedy for him and a tragedy for her and we cant understand because we werent in that relationship and we arent who they are. the only people who know what went on in that relationship is them. and why all this judgment and blame. blaming a woman who possibly told someone to jump who did and a man so distraught that he took his own life. maybe you should watch the documentary called "the Bridge" about the Golden Gate Bridge suicide jumpers-its on youtube. its enlightening and tragic and educational. cant believe such callous jokes about this. no one has a right to judge.

She dared him to jump.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=vn20080802084430187C365931

[LancelotSA]

She dared him to jump.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=vn20080802084430187C365931

And the idiot did!! Well at least he won that dare, something to brag about in hell!

[.geek]

Why you keep changing your name? I'm not judging, just asking...

What was it? :confused:

[Cea$erMan]

something to brag about in hell!

I hope you're not implying what I think you are! :eek:

[LancelotSA]

I hope you're not implying what I think you are! :eek:

Well you are being far to vague for me to know what you are thinking so I would be guessing if I replied either way...

[Cea$erMan]

I mean, are you implying he's in hell for commiting suicide?

[pos(t)er]

Lancelot, at least ur doing ur name proud, what with ur hard-boilded righteousness.

It always amazes me how heartless pple can be about these sort of things;thank god we have some1 new with some compassion and more than personal bias, in Brewil.

[LancelotSA]

I mean, are you implying he's in hell for commiting suicide?

Well I am in no way a bible expert but what does it say about taking your own life?


It always amazes me how heartless pple can be about these sort of things;thank god we have some1 new with some compassion and more than personal bias, in Brewil.


And poser call me whatever you choose but I have no compassion for someone who commits suicide... bad enough in the privacy of your own home with the distraught people you leave behind but to do it in what I assume is a pretty busy mall full of people, some of which were no doubt kids, who had to now witness something that may effect them psychologically for years to come... well then I am sorry but the jumper is even more of a twat in my eyes for doing that! Do you have any sort of feelings for those people? Do you think they will sleep easy tonight after what they have seen? Really screw compassion for the jumper!

[pos(t)er]

Ur attitude is dissapointing and short-sighted;at the very least it requires that we try to understand why it happened(the work of proffesionals) and since that's not possible (seeing as it's a private affair) we can only keep our opinions to ourselves and recognise it as a tragedy.

If u refuse to see the truth in all that PeterCH and Brewil have said, then i can only conclude that ur working off a personal bias.

[LancelotSA]

Ur attitude is dissapointing and short-sighted;at the very least it requires that we try to understand why it happened(the work of proffesionals) and since that's not possible (seeing as it's a private affair) we can only keep our opinions to ourselves and recognise it as a tragedy.

OK, it's official then... no more personal opinions allowed on this forum! :rolleyes: And can you explain why you describe my attitude as short sighted? I do not really see how that description fits...


If u refuse to see the truth in all that PeterCH and Brewil have said, then i can only conclude that ur working off a personal bias.

Call it bias if you must but suicide is never an option... you appearing to be arguing that it is? I cannot understand this! And you merrily avoid my questioning of all those that got to witness this act and the effect on them. Of course your concern seems to go no further than the person who caused all of this. And yes, as with you and everyone else on here, I am basing what I say on what I am reading here and in the news report.

And PeterCH is correct in apportioning blame on the lady in this story? Do you not think this may be bias based on his previous relationships?!?!?

[.geek]

I cannot understand this!

You shouldn't argue against it because of your lack of understanding.


And PeterCH is correct in apportioning blame on the lady in this story? Do you not think this may be bias based on his previous relationships?!?!?

Don't make wild assumptions. That has nothing to do with the topic. :rolleyes:

[pos(t)er]

Convenient when u only read what u want to, hey?I said it's short-sighted BECAUSE that attitude will get us nowhere in understanding why pple do commit suicide.

I'm not asking compassion for the guy, if for nothing else than it being physically impossible(he is dead after all.)

PeterCH mentioned the psychological factor, which is the only real factor we can analyse and Brewil mentioned the futility of speculation and that it is furthermore callous and in bad taste.

What was that saying again?Something about some1's shoes?Don't judge what u don't understand.

I admit that it is selfish in the sense of the potential harm it might inflict, but hey, that's reality-man is a selfish being.

[Cea$erMan]

Ignorant, self-righteous, religiously-indoctrinated C*NTS!

Poor girl, poor children etc etc. You know what I say? ***** her and ***** the children! You'll get your just desserts one day Lancelot and others...

And yes, this is a VERY personal issue for me.

[PeterCH]

And PeterCH is correct in apportioning blame on the lady in this story? Do you not think this may be bias based on his previous relationships?!?!?

Possibly but also no. :) I can imagine a guy treating a woman badly too.
So its not just her fault because she's a woman.

From my POV, partners can be cruel but that's life. However some
people are mentally ill (depression, adjustment disorder, various
personality disorders, even some psychotic disorders where they
believe irrational things OR use drugs) and that can push
some people into suicide. At the end of the day apparently
this guy jumped because of a dare, as I follow what someone
else said here. I didn't RTA in typical MyBB fashion.

While I'm religious myself I don't believe God who's merciful would
condemn this guy to eternal hell for what he did if he did it accidentally
or if he did it because of severe depression. At the end of the day,
we believe in a merciful God and no matter what we know or believe
here, He'll judge this guy according to what was in his heart.

[Zenbaas]

She dared him to jump.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=vn20080802084430187C365931

Well now you can say that she is at least partially responsible.....like it or not.

[PeterCH]

Well now you can say that she is at least partially responsible.....like it or not.

I see you don't RTFA either, like me. Typical MyBB. :)

[LancelotSA]

You shouldn't argue against it because of your lack of understanding. Don't make wild assumptions. That has nothing to do with the topic. :rolleyes:

Please read all posts by both parties if you are going to try and join in their argument... My post was in response to posers post in which he stated :



If u refuse to see the truth in all that PeterCH and Brewil have said, then i can only conclude that ur working off a personal bias.

So then is it wrong of me to make these same wild assumptions about another poster? Probably but that is the point!


Convenient when u only read what u want to, hey?I said it's short-sighted BECAUSE that attitude will get us nowhere in understanding why pple do commit suicide.

I'm not asking compassion for the guy, if for nothing else than it being physically impossible(he is dead after all.)

PeterCH mentioned the psychological factor, which is the only real factor we can analyse and Brewil mentioned the futility of speculation and that it is furthermore callous and in bad taste.

What was that saying again?Something about some1's shoes?Don't judge what u don't understand.

I admit that it is selfish in the sense of the potential harm it might inflict, but hey, that's reality-man is a selfish being.

Um you actually have to type it if you want people to read it! You said nothing about your reasons for calling me short sighted in your original post. I wish I had psychic abilities but alas I do not!

Let me repeat again I DO NOT care about getting into this person's shoes or understanding their thinking at the time. I am basing my thoughts on my locus of control and what I know. I'll leave it to the psychologists to analyse his thinking but my VIEW is that no matter how badly she treated him what he did was damaging to a lot more people than himself.

And your statement of people being selfish seems to imply that we must not endeavour to change this but rather just accept it. I do not just accept it and for this reason in this instance I will in no way condone, or try to be PC when I express my opinion. Does your desire not judge someone with psychological issues also go as far as being understanding and not condemning a mad man who opens fire at a shopping mall or school? Again my VIEW is don't make your problems mine. If you would like to kill yourself, do it at home and don't effect me psychologically!

[LancelotSA]

Well now you can say that she is at least partially responsible.....like it or not.

This reminds me of an old saying.... if I tell you to go and jump in a fire, will you? :rolleyes:

[Cea$erMan]

While I'm religious myself I don't believe God who's merciful would
condemn this guy to eternal hell for what he did if he did it accidentally
or if he did it because of severe depression. At the end of the day,
we believe in a merciful God and no matter what we know or believe
here, He'll judge this guy according to what was in his heart.

This. And Lancelot, DON'T use Christianity as a blunt weapon to push you ignorant delusions on others. It might well have been a child or family member of yours that decided to throw himself off there. One can only hope for the future huh?

[Zenbaas]

This reminds me of an old saying.... if I tell you to go and jump in a fire, will you? :rolleyes:

Of course, but an additional provocation in an already very volatile situation doesn't help either...does it?

[PeterCH]

This. And Lancelot, DON'T use Christianity as a blunt weapon to push you ignorant delusions on others. It might well have been a child or family member of yours that decided to throw himself off there. One can only hope for the future huh?

Christianity is quite ambiguous. While it says you shouldn't take your
life it also says God is Merciful (and His mercy is infinite). At the end
of the day we can't say who will go to hell or not, atheist or not,
murderer or not, etc with certainty. We leave that up to God, which
doesn't mean we should lead our lives like callous pigs and expect
God to just forgive us our sins at the end but whether someone
goes to hell or not afterwards does not depend on others,
so even if I where to say the suicidal man will go to hell, I'm not
the one deciding where he'll go. God is very forgiving, I believe at least.

I don't believe a person who was sick with depression and committed
suicide as a result will necessarily go to hell. So please don't
bash Christianity because it really is not your enemy.

[LancelotSA]

This. And Lancelot, DON'T use Christianity as a blunt weapon to push you ignorant delusions on others. It might well have been a child or family member of yours that decided to throw himself off there. One can only hope for the future huh?

Ceaserman (sic) I did not use religion at all I merely had to make a call when saying that he could use this dare as bragging rights whether it would be in heaven or hell... I decided the latter! Some other t__t then decided he would try and see if he could take that throw away statement a little further... Oh wait I see it was you!

[Zenbaas]

I see you don't RTFA either, like me. Typical MyBB. :)

Yes, i remember that particular thread;) Im in between study breaks now, so using my time constructively:p

[pos(t)er]

Does your desire not judge someone with psychological issues also go as far as being understanding and not condemning a mad man who opens fire at a shopping mall or school? QUOTE]

Yes : psychological illness is just as bad as any other disablilty.If we don't understand it,we'll forever be doomed to stereotypically typecasting pple as madmen, when the reality is that they are only victims themselves.I think u fail to comprehend the complexity of the human psyche;everything isn't all fine and dandy all the time, for some more so than others.

[QUOTE]Again my VIEW is don't make your problems mine. If you would like to kill yourself, do it at home and don't effect me psychologically![/


And your statement of people being selfish seems to imply that we must not endeavour to change this but rather just accept it.I do not just accept it

Ironic?

[LancelotSA]

I don't believe a person who was sick with depression and committed suicide as a result will necessarily go to hell. So please don't bash Christianity because it really is not your enemy.

And you guys talk about making wild assumptions.... should I make assumptions that he was actually high, drugged out of his mind, p!ssed....

[Zenbaas]

And you guys talk about making wild assumptions.... should I make assumptions that he was actually high, drugged out of his mind, p!ssed....

This is not an AA meeting Lancelot, no need for disclosures :D
:p

[LancelotSA]

Yes:psychological illness is just as bad as any other disablilty.If we don't understand it,we'll forever be doomed to stereotypically typecasting pple as madmen, when the reality is that they are only victims themselves.I think u fail to comprehend the complexity of the human psyche;everything isn't all fine and dandy all the time, for some more so than others.

Well you can merrily do your psychological studies, just try to keep it out of public malls if you can! And I want to use the age old argument on these forum and say I will come and speak to you again if one of your family happen to get caught up in the wild shooting of a mad man!

Never mind that you guys are making wild assumptions that this chap was severely depressed and had psychological issues... read my post above about assumptions!

As regards your ironic comment, I do not for one minute think it is selfish to not want someone to commit suicide in front of me so I think you are clutching at straws a bit here now...

[PeterCH]

And you guys talk about making wild assumptions.... should I make assumptions that he was actually high, drugged out of his mind, p!ssed....

I don't think NOT ordering God around is making an assumption.
God does what He does, no matter what PeterCH says on
this forum.

As for depression, I don't know. Most people who commit
suicide do it because of some form of mental illness,
usually major depression which itself is quite common in society.

Now I didn't RTA but according to someone here, he jumped
not because of a triggered act brought about by his girlfriend
dumping him, but because he wanted to show off. Anyhow,
he paid the ultimate price for his reckless behaviour in that case.

[LancelotSA]

This is not an AA meeting Lancelot, no need for disclosures :D
:p

Well I may as well come out as we seem to have a couple of loonies on here who are vehemently defending their fellow loonies!! :)

[LancelotSA]

I don't think ordering God around is making an assumption. God does what He does, no matter what PeterCH says on
this forum.

I am sorry I have stopped reading your posts as they are coming across as preachings now...

[PeterCH]

I am sorry I have stopped reading your posts as they are coming across as preachings now...

I'm not preaching. I'm explaining a religious POV. I am not telling you
what to believe. Why do people have to be so defensive? :)

[LancelotSA]

I'm not preaching. I'm explaining a religious POV. I am not telling you
what to believe. Why do people have to be so defensive? :)

Because this had nothing to do with religion... I explained already why I said hell, I could just as easily have said the "other side"

[pos(t)er]

So i'm a looney whose points have no validity?If u said what u just did to a psychologist/psychiatrist, u'd very much be the looney who has no clue what he's on about.

U think it's humane to go on about what an idiot some1 who took his life was, instead of recognising the tragic nature it bears?

Ur refusal to contemplate his side of the event, shows how narrowminded u are.

I can only hope some1 in ur family never does it, cause u''l be cursing his/her failure to find logical solutions for whatever drove them to it.

[PeterCH]

Because this had nothing to do with religion... I explained already why I said hell, I could just as easily have said the "other side"

Yes but someone else mentioned religion, which means that this
reply had nothing to do with you. Cea$erMan mentioned that
some religious people are callous and judgmental. I happen
to agree that some are but those people I believe do not
have to be correct.

[LancelotSA]

So i'm a looney whose points have no validity?If u said what u just did to a psychologist/psychiatrist, u'd very much be the looney who has no clue what he's on about.

U think it's humane to go on about what an idiot some1 who took his life was, instead of recognising the tragic nature it bears?

Ur refusal to contemplate his side of the event, shows how narrowminded u are.

I can only hope some1 in ur family never does it, cause u''l be cursing his/her failure to find logical solutions for whatever drove them to it.

I am no psychologist but one thing I can tell for sure... you have no sense of humour!!!!!

[PeterCH]

So i'm a looney whose points have no validity?If u said what u just did to a psychologist/psychiatrist, u'd very much be the looney who has no clue what he's on about.

I think he referred to me because he thought I was preaching to him :).

[pos(t)er]

Oh come of it Lancelot:u make a claim in all seriousness and then make my retort off as humourlesness?

Guess u can't maintain ur positivity without turning a blind eye to mankind's darker side...

[LancelotSA]

Oh come of it Lancelot:u make a claim in all seriousness and then make my retort off as humourlesness?

Guess u can't maintain ur positivity without turning a blind eye to mankind's darker side...

Please learn to read poser!! My comment you so (un)happily quoted was in response to a fellow poster on here referring to comments I made and insinuating i was confessing at an AA meeting... I managed to see the humour in that and was responding in kind!

But like I said there is one diagnosis I can be sure of here!

EDIT : For the benefit of the slow ones amongst us I even put a smiley face next to that loonies comment! But I guess you can't get it through to everyone.

[pos(t)er]

Oh, that's very smart, more humour i assume?(If i'm mistaken be sure to rectify me!)

Ur failure to address my points concerning the psychological factors, leave me with the conclusion that u never thought about the complexity of something like suicide and that it's all very black and white to you.

Life isn't like the movies;there's more to it then linear cause and effect developments.

[Zenbaas]

Please learn to read poser!! My comment you so (un)happily quoted was in response to a fellow poster on here referring to comments I made and insinuating i was confessing at an AA meeting... I managed to see the humour in that and was responding in kind!

But like I said there is one diagnosis I can be sure of here!

EDIT : For the benefit of the slow ones amongst us I even put a smiley face next to that loonies comment! But I guess you can't get it through to everyone.

Sometimes we must jest in all seriousness:p

[LancelotSA]

Sometimes we must jest in all seriousness:p

Precisely... and I found your comments a great relief.... forgive me while I go off and light a spliff and down some whiskey and then off to study those psychology text books :)

[PeterCH]

Precisely... and I found your comments a great relief.... forgive me while I go off and light a spliff and down some whiskey and then off to study those psychology text books :)

I am preparing that link you posted temporarily for that corporate promotional
stuff :). (off topic)

[LancelotSA]

I am preparing that link you posted temporarily for that corporate promotional
stuff :). (off topic)

Ha ha now you see that topic was just so much more fun than this one! :)

And just to prove that I really do just comment on what is being said and not based on who the poster is, I didn't even realise it was the same person I was chatting to now! Makes it easier to say what is on your mind that way... so don't ever take personal offence! ;)

[Nocturnity]

So i'm a looney whose points have no validity?If u said what u just did to a psychologist/psychiatrist, u'd very much be the looney who has no clue what he's on about.

U think it's humane to go on about what an idiot some1 who took his life was, instead of recognising the tragic nature it bears?

Ur refusal to contemplate his side of the event, shows how narrowminded u are.

I can only hope some1 in ur family never does it, cause u''l be cursing his/her failure to find logical solutions for whatever drove them to it.

Dude, seriously... Your sentences are well structured and you have impeccable spelling. Why do you keep using "u" and ur", etc.? I really don't mean to be judgmental or anything but this makes your posts appear like a teenage cellphone conversation. It somehow doesn't fit your personality! I know that sounds weird but you raise good points in a well thought-out manner, but the "u's" make you look like a child. I'm really not trying to insult you, just trying to point it out! :o

[Nicci]

wow, how this topic has changed course...

[PPC_SouthAfrica]

Oi what a crazy thing to happen. She must be besides herself now she has to live with the guilt of this

[SlyFly]

Mmm If this guy knew how much me and my gf has broken up and gotten back together he would have waited a week to see what happens... :D

But seriously, RIP

[DJ...]

Mmm If this guy knew how much me and my gf has broken up and gotten back together he would have waited a week to see what happens... :D

You reckon he had a shot with your girlfriend?

[SlyFly]

You reckon he had a shot with your girlfriend?

Mmm I was talking more about his, but if he knew my gf I think he would have climbed another story just to make sure... ;)

[sparticus]

PeterCH , no offense the guy had a choice. Love can make us do stupid things

[Keldrynn]

This is all very sad. (sorry for shoving this in so late :) )

I think suicide is very selfish, but if he had a reason, then so be it. If it was love, then I could respect it.