Kloon
22-08-2008, 01:23 PM
I've heard rumors that neotel has received shipment of some ethernet devices and are testing it before making it public available.
Can Neotel rep maybe confirm this?
Can Neotel rep maybe confirm this?
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RichardG
22-08-2008, 02:06 PM
This is true. I heard the same rumor, heard that the enterprises are testing this product.
Peder
22-08-2008, 02:10 PM
i just wish i could get signal in my area, the nearest signal is like 5k's away.
rtzouves
22-08-2008, 02:36 PM
i just wish i could get signal in my area, the nearest signal is like 5k's away.
I wish i could get my speed back, in the time i have had neotel my speeds have more than halved and i supposedly have excellent coverage. I have a sneaky suspicion they are limiting my downloads.
I wish i could get my speed back, in the time i have had neotel my speeds have more than halved and i supposedly have excellent coverage. I have a sneaky suspicion they are limiting my downloads.
rph72
22-08-2008, 03:26 PM
I wish they could update their coverage map. I want to see those orange blobs grow!!!
Dolby
22-08-2008, 03:58 PM
I wish they charge R100.00pm for 5GB at 3mbps
rtzouves
22-08-2008, 04:11 PM
lol this thread should be the "I wish"......
For the highly unlikely
Thread.
For the highly unlikely
Thread.
demon angel
22-08-2008, 05:14 PM
lol this thread should be the "I wish"......
For the highly unlikely
Thread.
Nelson Mandela's Broadband fund!
For the highly unlikely
Thread.
Nelson Mandela's Broadband fund!
Loki2008
22-08-2008, 07:54 PM
I've heard rumors that neotel has received shipment of some ethernet devices and are testing it before making it public available.
Can Neotel rep maybe confirm this?
Sorry! I am unfortunately not a Neotel rep; but I can tell you there have been quite a few devices tested for Neotel, one is a Wifi AP with a build in 1x modem; others are more generic ie. Wifi AP with USB which are compatible with Neotel devices as well as GSM devices...
I have responded on this previous; please check out the link below in this forum...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=132260&page=2
I am sure if you email through the question Neotel would be more than happy to respond back.
Can Neotel rep maybe confirm this?
Sorry! I am unfortunately not a Neotel rep; but I can tell you there have been quite a few devices tested for Neotel, one is a Wifi AP with a build in 1x modem; others are more generic ie. Wifi AP with USB which are compatible with Neotel devices as well as GSM devices...
I have responded on this previous; please check out the link below in this forum...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=132260&page=2
I am sure if you email through the question Neotel would be more than happy to respond back.
RichardG
22-08-2008, 08:20 PM
For more information about this router.
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
Yotch
22-08-2008, 09:38 PM
The suggested retail price for that router is around $250 and presumably they will still force their customers to purchase the brick! I doubt that there will be many takers at that price.
rtzouves
22-08-2008, 09:46 PM
agreed, but i am sure they must have some lower end units. That router is pretty high tech. What with the wireless n etc
RichardG
22-08-2008, 09:47 PM
I think entry for this router will be expensive.
R2000 with exchange... R400 to ship to South Africa.
Work the math.....
The only company willing to ship this product to South Africa
http://www.wirelessnwifi.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=31
R2000 with exchange... R400 to ship to South Africa.
Work the math.....
The only company willing to ship this product to South Africa
http://www.wirelessnwifi.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=31
MielieSpoor
27-08-2008, 02:40 PM
For more information about this router.
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
Dude this modem is for corporates. It supports load balancing!! I cannot rally think that alot of people would use this feature in their personal capacity.
If I can get an ADSL router that supports loadbalancing and a static IP I would not be using WebAfrica to host anymore! The route with the loadbalancer would really help!
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
Dude this modem is for corporates. It supports load balancing!! I cannot rally think that alot of people would use this feature in their personal capacity.
If I can get an ADSL router that supports loadbalancing and a static IP I would not be using WebAfrica to host anymore! The route with the loadbalancer would really help!
rph72
03-09-2008, 06:20 PM
So when are they releasing the ethernet device?
Neotel
03-09-2008, 08:34 PM
Testing and selection of devices is certainly happening at Neotel. We also continue to appreciate suggestions and pointers - keep posting. Maybe we should actually start a wish list - there is certainly a long list of possible features to choose from, though there will always be compromises.
The point of testing devices is obviously to launch new products - but we don't yet have specific launch dates available.
The point of testing devices is obviously to launch new products - but we don't yet have specific launch dates available.
Reptilian
04-09-2008, 12:22 AM
Testing and selection of devices is certainly happening at Neotel. We also continue to appreciate suggestions and pointers - keep posting. Maybe we should actually start a wish list - there is certainly a long list of possible features to choose from, though there will always be compromises.
The point of testing devices is obviously to launch new products - but we don't yet have specific launch dates available.
:)
For x-mas I would like CDMA Rev. A/B Ethernet Router with two antennas for extended coverage, or anything for extended coverage.
something like this: http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=3 would be great , i wouldn't mind paying R500 more for a decent Rev B Ethernet router with good coverage either
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/broadband_evdo_modem.php?id=4
tell me something, would Rev A/B improve your coverage footprint?
The point of testing devices is obviously to launch new products - but we don't yet have specific launch dates available.
:)
For x-mas I would like CDMA Rev. A/B Ethernet Router with two antennas for extended coverage, or anything for extended coverage.
something like this: http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=3 would be great , i wouldn't mind paying R500 more for a decent Rev B Ethernet router with good coverage either
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/broadband_evdo_modem.php?id=4
tell me something, would Rev A/B improve your coverage footprint?
Yotch
04-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Du Pont Telecom, the supplier of Neotel's current phone is a distributor for Axesstel equipment so it's hard to understand why they didn't launch with a full range of products i.e. modems, phones and routers.
Du Pont has robust relationships with the premier OEMs and supplies devices from the world’s leading manufacturers including Axesstel, Epivalley, ITS Telecom, Techfaith, Telular and Wavetramp; as well as leading PABX manufacturers including Alcatel, Siemens, Samsung and many others.
http://www.duponttelecom.co.za/products_services/index.html
Du Pont has robust relationships with the premier OEMs and supplies devices from the world’s leading manufacturers including Axesstel, Epivalley, ITS Telecom, Techfaith, Telular and Wavetramp; as well as leading PABX manufacturers including Alcatel, Siemens, Samsung and many others.
http://www.duponttelecom.co.za/products_services/index.html
ninex
04-09-2008, 02:32 PM
We also continue to appreciate suggestions and pointers - keep posting. Maybe we should actually start a wish list - there is certainly a long list of possible features to choose from, though there will always be compromises.
I agree with this, but will it really be viable?
I agree with this, but will it really be viable?
Reptilian
08-09-2008, 10:50 AM
We also continue to appreciate suggestions and pointers - keep posting.
Hi Neotel, please take a look at these::)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015VVXOK/ref=s9sdps_c6_23_at2-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0MD1NBKHZFE9YZPKY1MP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=425580201&pf_rd_i=507846
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8:merlin-x720-3g-31-expresscard-ev-do-networks&catid=1:merlin-pc-cards&Itemid=8
Expresscard for macs and nearly all new laptops^^
Could they be possible? And when?
Hi Neotel, please take a look at these::)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015VVXOK/ref=s9sdps_c6_23_at2-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0MD1NBKHZFE9YZPKY1MP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=425580201&pf_rd_i=507846
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8:merlin-x720-3g-31-expresscard-ev-do-networks&catid=1:merlin-pc-cards&Itemid=8
Expresscard for macs and nearly all new laptops^^
Could they be possible? And when?
pkid
08-09-2008, 12:05 PM
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8:merlin-x720-3g-31-expresscard-ev-do-networks&catid=1:merlin-pc-cards&Itemid=8
That would be sweet. Allow me to escape from Vodacom HSDPA...
http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8:merlin-x720-3g-31-expresscard-ev-do-networks&catid=1:merlin-pc-cards&Itemid=8
That would be sweet. Allow me to escape from Vodacom HSDPA...
astrauss
03-10-2008, 09:47 AM
I've heard from someone in the industry that Neotel is selling ethernet devices already.
@Neotel: can you please confirm or deny?
@Neotel: can you please confirm or deny?
porchrat
03-10-2008, 10:05 AM
I think the neotel rep has abandoned us.
Haven't seen him posting for a while.
Haven't seen him posting for a while.
chubster
03-10-2008, 02:15 PM
My requirements are better upload speeds, well at least 128kbit+. When the wife starts talking on the phone for an hour, doesn't leave me stranded without internet. USB is fine, I like to do my internet sharing/fire walling/Access Point with my own setup. They need to start giving out hardware information or at show willingness to participate in Linux drivers for the device(s).
porchrat
03-10-2008, 04:43 PM
If they start offering an ethernet device it won't need linux drivers...it will just work. Problem solved.
cbrunsdonza
03-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Well, I will sell my left nut for a 4 port eth device with WiFi g/n ... getting away from Telscum has been a pleasure and I don't care if I'm an early adopter with an OX Wagon.
NOTE: For Sale, one left Nut
NOTE: For Sale, one left Nut
rph72
08-10-2008, 11:49 AM
So when wil this device be available?? :rolleyes:
CTSA
08-10-2008, 04:26 PM
When will the ethernet service become available? I already have a router/modem, don't want to buy a new one....
porchrat
08-10-2008, 04:47 PM
When will the ethernet service become available? I already have a router/modem, don't want to buy a new one....
You have a CDMA router/modem?...Your ADSL modem won't work as you won't be connecting through a traditional phone line.
You have a CDMA router/modem?...Your ADSL modem won't work as you won't be connecting through a traditional phone line.
Loki2008
09-10-2008, 06:43 AM
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=1
zerofocus
09-10-2008, 06:46 AM
Why can't we just use our own devices? Why do we HAVE TO get one through NeoTel? I would prefer just ordering one from amazon or somewhere instead of getting these "we are working on it" and "we don't have a launch date yet". I suppose it's good business practice to do this, but i wont switch until I can have a eth device!
porchrat
09-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Why can't we just use our own devices? Why do we HAVE TO get one through NeoTel? I would prefer just ordering one from amazon or somewhere instead of getting these "we are working on it" and "we don't have a launch date yet". I suppose it's good business practice to do this, but i wont switch until I can have a eth device!
I agree with you.
I know that you can't get your own because that is one of the ways they want to make money off you. Although they could also make some money off of me by just selling me a CDMA SIM card (like a lot of these devices function with). Then we would all be happy as we could invest in my own modem/router, I realise they wouldn't make as much money as they can selling their own modem/router/ugly-phone-brick-thing, but I really wish they would change.
Neotel is running a similar setup to Telkom's ADSL. You must get their modem/router or you can't use their sevice, so they hook you into a 2 year contract to pay for the modem/router.
Also thanks for the link Loki2008, there are plenty of CDMA modem/routers out there, but from what I have read you just can't use them with Neotel's network as Neotel programs each device with inbuilt information regarding their network (this information is normally contained within a SIM card which would then allow you to change router/modem at will by merely moving the SIM card to the new device). It would be like trying to connect to a cell phone network with a cell phone that has no SIM card. Or imagine a cell phone with a built in SIM card that you can't remove.
I agree with you.
I know that you can't get your own because that is one of the ways they want to make money off you. Although they could also make some money off of me by just selling me a CDMA SIM card (like a lot of these devices function with). Then we would all be happy as we could invest in my own modem/router, I realise they wouldn't make as much money as they can selling their own modem/router/ugly-phone-brick-thing, but I really wish they would change.
Neotel is running a similar setup to Telkom's ADSL. You must get their modem/router or you can't use their sevice, so they hook you into a 2 year contract to pay for the modem/router.
Also thanks for the link Loki2008, there are plenty of CDMA modem/routers out there, but from what I have read you just can't use them with Neotel's network as Neotel programs each device with inbuilt information regarding their network (this information is normally contained within a SIM card which would then allow you to change router/modem at will by merely moving the SIM card to the new device). It would be like trying to connect to a cell phone network with a cell phone that has no SIM card. Or imagine a cell phone with a built in SIM card that you can't remove.
TrueTenacity
10-10-2008, 09:35 AM
I agree, an ethernet device and coverage are the only things preventing me from switching at the moment...
warwickw
10-10-2008, 09:54 AM
+1 Ethernet is critical, I still can't believe they launched without an Ethernet solution.
CriticalConsumer
10-10-2008, 05:09 PM
Guess what? I got a chance to mess around with the 4port ethernet Wifi router today at a corporate event and I must say I am impressed!!!
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
chubster
10-10-2008, 05:43 PM
I agree with you.
I know that you can't get your own because that is one of the ways they want to make money off you. Although they could also make some money off of me by just selling me a CDMA SIM card (like a lot of these devices function with). Then we would all be happy as we could invest in my own modem/router, I realise they wouldn't make as much money as they can selling their own modem/router/ugly-phone-brick-thing, but I really wish they would change.
The problem rite there is that they limit you through the device, so why not just buy the RUIM (SIM) on the lite package and stick it into a EV-DO device and get the Prime speed. See the problem?
now if you look at Vodacom they charge you R50 just because your HSDPA modem can do 7.2Mbps... I don't like that either, anyway hope you follow.
I know that you can't get your own because that is one of the ways they want to make money off you. Although they could also make some money off of me by just selling me a CDMA SIM card (like a lot of these devices function with). Then we would all be happy as we could invest in my own modem/router, I realise they wouldn't make as much money as they can selling their own modem/router/ugly-phone-brick-thing, but I really wish they would change.
The problem rite there is that they limit you through the device, so why not just buy the RUIM (SIM) on the lite package and stick it into a EV-DO device and get the Prime speed. See the problem?
now if you look at Vodacom they charge you R50 just because your HSDPA modem can do 7.2Mbps... I don't like that either, anyway hope you follow.
cbrunsdonza
10-10-2008, 06:57 PM
Guess what? I got a chance to mess around with the 4port ethernet Wifi router today at a corporate event and I must say I am impressed!!!
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
+1 Cool
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
+1 Cool
zerofocus
11-10-2008, 09:40 PM
Guess what? I got a chance to mess around with the 4port ethernet Wifi router today at a corporate event and I must say I am impressed!!!
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
That's the best news I've hear all week. I can't wait to get their uncapped service :)
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
That's the best news I've hear all week. I can't wait to get their uncapped service :)
pkid
12-10-2008, 07:36 AM
Guess what? I got a chance to mess around with the 4port ethernet Wifi router today at a corporate event and I must say I am impressed!!!
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
Excellent! I reckon after they launch the device they will get a lot of people signing up.
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
Excellent! I reckon after they launch the device they will get a lot of people signing up.
bekdik
12-10-2008, 10:12 AM
Guess what? I got a chance to mess around with the 4port ethernet Wifi router today at a corporate event and I must say I am impressed!!!
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
How do you use your phone when you have this device?
Downloading YouTube vids are like blinking an eye! They say it is due out soon - very soon :D
They are just wrapping up some technical items on it before it is released.
How do you use your phone when you have this device?
zerofocus
13-10-2008, 12:36 PM
With any luck this will force them to give us a "voice-less" uncapped package for R600pm? :D
porchrat
13-10-2008, 01:23 PM
With any luck this will force them to give us a "voice-less" uncapped package for R600pm? :D
Oh yes please!
Oh yes please!
Robocop
13-10-2008, 01:28 PM
With any luck this will force them to give us a "voice-less" uncapped package for R600pm? :D
Neotel, take note.....THIS is what the people of SA need.
Neotel, take note.....THIS is what the people of SA need.
ToxicBunny
14-10-2008, 10:53 AM
Precisely... if you can provide me with an ethernet device, and no bundled minutes etc and just data, I will become ALOT more interested in your service.
ID_10_T
14-10-2008, 11:19 AM
+1
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Chevron
14-10-2008, 11:52 AM
I rather like the fact that you get voice as well.
But without being able to use the net while using voice makes this useless.
Especially since you can't use your own phone anyway or fax. So we still need to keep the telkom lines.
Data only packages will be welcome indeed.
But without being able to use the net while using voice makes this useless.
Especially since you can't use your own phone anyway or fax. So we still need to keep the telkom lines.
Data only packages will be welcome indeed.
cbrunsdonza
14-10-2008, 11:53 AM
I want an ethernet device linked to my data, and then my handset linked to my voice - as a converged offering. So when my wife wants to phone she can sit in the bedroom and I can still surf.
Chevron
14-10-2008, 11:58 AM
I want an ethernet device linked to my data, and then my handset linked to my voice - as a converged offering. So when my wife wants to phone she can sit in the bedroom and I can still surf.
Exactly. What happens if we want two handsets?
Like one the kitchen and one in the bedroom?
It's not like we can just plug a splitter into Neotels device and use our own phones.
These people who are meant to give us choice are very restrictive hey?
Exactly. What happens if we want two handsets?
Like one the kitchen and one in the bedroom?
It's not like we can just plug a splitter into Neotels device and use our own phones.
These people who are meant to give us choice are very restrictive hey?
chubster
14-10-2008, 01:48 PM
Exactly. What happens if we want two handsets?
Like one the kitchen and one in the bedroom?
It's not like we can just plug a splitter into Neotels device and use our own phones.
These people who are meant to give us choice are very restrictive hey?
Well, having unlimited bandwidth and a VoIP/sip server somewhere for cheap and a 24/7 permanent internet connection would allow you to setup a sip server (Asterix) turn your cell phone into a sip client/headset, so once you step into your home, your cell phone is hand held device with your own extension inside your house, you can do your own voice mail service from your own home. Access it via the web from where ever to listen to your voice mails, probably ten times better.
We should have been there 10 YEARS ago, but no, we have to be "managed liberalised" .
The possibilities are endless, we just need lower latency and more bandwidth, adsl can make it all happen, except Telkom had to go and "shape" your account.
*sigh* perhaps one day Neotel will give us what we need with fibre.
Like one the kitchen and one in the bedroom?
It's not like we can just plug a splitter into Neotels device and use our own phones.
These people who are meant to give us choice are very restrictive hey?
Well, having unlimited bandwidth and a VoIP/sip server somewhere for cheap and a 24/7 permanent internet connection would allow you to setup a sip server (Asterix) turn your cell phone into a sip client/headset, so once you step into your home, your cell phone is hand held device with your own extension inside your house, you can do your own voice mail service from your own home. Access it via the web from where ever to listen to your voice mails, probably ten times better.
We should have been there 10 YEARS ago, but no, we have to be "managed liberalised" .
The possibilities are endless, we just need lower latency and more bandwidth, adsl can make it all happen, except Telkom had to go and "shape" your account.
*sigh* perhaps one day Neotel will give us what we need with fibre.
porchrat
14-10-2008, 04:51 PM
We should have been there 10 YEARS ago, but no, we have to be "managed liberalised" .
Don't go and twist Poison Ivy's words. She merely wants to institute "managed liberalisation" so that she can manage the process of unmanaging the telecommunications industry...there is no spoon!
Don't go and twist Poison Ivy's words. She merely wants to institute "managed liberalisation" so that she can manage the process of unmanaging the telecommunications industry...there is no spoon!
zerofocus
15-10-2008, 12:18 PM
ANY NEWS YET?!?!? :D
rph72
15-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Mid October and nothing yet. Eish :(
zerofocus
15-10-2008, 02:12 PM
I probably should have waited before i gave notice on my adsl line. Oh well!
CriticalConsumer
15-10-2008, 04:01 PM
It's close...maybe next week :rolleyes:
Been playing around with a device today :D
Been playing around with a device today :D
pkid
15-10-2008, 04:14 PM
So when wil this device be available?? :rolleyes:
100 days...
100 days...
CriticalConsumer
15-10-2008, 04:16 PM
pkid: wanna bet me R100 that its next week? :p
porchrat
15-10-2008, 04:24 PM
Critical Consumer tell us about the device you have been "playing around with"...we promise we won't tell the Neotel rep if you give us a sneak peak.
pkid
15-10-2008, 04:25 PM
pkid: wanna bet me R100 that its next week? :p
Perhaps. But I do bet you and lose then I will only pay you in 100 days :P
I hope it is sooner rather than later though...
Perhaps. But I do bet you and lose then I will only pay you in 100 days :P
I hope it is sooner rather than later though...
rph72
15-10-2008, 04:32 PM
It's close...maybe next week :rolleyes:
Been playing around with a device today :D
Will the device be available in the same coverage footprint as prime or does it have greater range?
Been playing around with a device today :D
Will the device be available in the same coverage footprint as prime or does it have greater range?
porchrat
15-10-2008, 04:37 PM
It's close...maybe next week :rolleyes:
Been playing around with a device today :D
Do you work for Neotel or something? Because you know a suspisciously large amount about them and their prospective offerings...hmmmm
That and if... hypothetically... someone wanted to uh...steal the aforementioned ethernet device from you...what address would they need to go to?:D
Been playing around with a device today :D
Do you work for Neotel or something? Because you know a suspisciously large amount about them and their prospective offerings...hmmmm
That and if... hypothetically... someone wanted to uh...steal the aforementioned ethernet device from you...what address would they need to go to?:D
Robocop
15-10-2008, 06:45 PM
I've heard from an Postnet employee that they are all summond for a meeting (info session) and he recons it's regarding the new device. Could be really soon.
StefK
16-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Well, since eveyone is getting in on the action with the rumors...
I heard that Neotel are getting Superman, Lance Armstrong and Julius Malema in as their marketing "dream team" to campaign for the new ethernet Neotel device...
I heard that Neotel are getting Superman, Lance Armstrong and Julius Malema in as their marketing "dream team" to campaign for the new ethernet Neotel device...
dts
16-10-2008, 10:02 AM
I was told that using revA will prevent aids, but not HIV. Also if you throw the new ethernet device it will always land on its feet!
ID_10_T
16-10-2008, 10:26 AM
I was told that using revA will prevent aids, but not HIV. Also if you throw the new ethernet device it will always land on its feet!
Please Note: It must be used together with beetroot, unions and garlic
Please Note: It must be used together with beetroot, unions and garlic
chubster
16-10-2008, 10:40 AM
Don't go and twist Poison Ivy's words. She merely wants to institute "managed liberalisation" so that she can manage the process of unmanaging the telecommunications industry...there is no spoon!
So what is your answer on Kenya, dropping their managed liberalisation in favour of opening up to the industry?
So what is your answer on Kenya, dropping their managed liberalisation in favour of opening up to the industry?
zerofocus
16-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Ok, so what you guys are saying is you don't have Neotel coverage?
porchrat
16-10-2008, 11:57 AM
So what is your answer on Kenya, dropping their managed liberalisation in favour of opening up to the industry?
Those counter-revolutionary capitalist pigs...they don't understand the people's struggle to stop the public having uncapped broadband at acceptable prices! Don't they realise that free competition undermines our freedom to be oppressed by bloated, corrupt, inefficient monopolistic giants like Telkom (and Kenya Telkom)!
You know I wouldn't be surprised if Ivy had actually said something like that.
Those counter-revolutionary capitalist pigs...they don't understand the people's struggle to stop the public having uncapped broadband at acceptable prices! Don't they realise that free competition undermines our freedom to be oppressed by bloated, corrupt, inefficient monopolistic giants like Telkom (and Kenya Telkom)!
You know I wouldn't be surprised if Ivy had actually said something like that.
porchrat
16-10-2008, 11:59 AM
I do agree with everyone though. We should stop the rumours and just wait and see what transpires.
cbrunsdonza
16-10-2008, 12:24 PM
I heard that Telkom brought in Chuck Norris to stop Neotel, but Neotel retaliated by getting Vernon Koekemoer...
rtzouves
16-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Well I heard a rumor that this thread was going pear shaped...
hmmm, not a rumour after all ;)
hmmm, not a rumour after all ;)
porchrat
16-10-2008, 12:51 PM
I prefer the thread this way...maybe it shouldn't be hijacked, but a new thread for this stuff would be fun. Some of those "I heard..." posts there are coffee-spitting funny.
SplaT
16-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Two questions:
What is ethernet?
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
After reading up on ethernet, I still don't see what the big fuss is all about.
What is ethernet?
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
After reading up on ethernet, I still don't see what the big fuss is all about.
lived666
16-10-2008, 02:49 PM
Two questions:
What is ethernet?
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
After reading up on ethernet, I still don't see what the big fuss is all about.
so you can run the connection over a network.
If you only have one pc, then you don't need ethernet, but if you have a small business with say 3 - 5 computers then its crucial as they can all share the connection.
What is ethernet?
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
After reading up on ethernet, I still don't see what the big fuss is all about.
so you can run the connection over a network.
If you only have one pc, then you don't need ethernet, but if you have a small business with say 3 - 5 computers then its crucial as they can all share the connection.
dts
16-10-2008, 02:51 PM
What is ethernet?
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
1. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ethernet
(n) Something used to catch the Etherbunny.
2. We are excited because ethernet cables are way cooler than usb! Now if some rumours are true and it also features 802.11g we will all die from excitement overload!
Why does everyone seem excited about this?
1. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ethernet
(n) Something used to catch the Etherbunny.
2. We are excited because ethernet cables are way cooler than usb! Now if some rumours are true and it also features 802.11g we will all die from excitement overload!
CriticalConsumer
16-10-2008, 11:10 PM
Well when u attend product launches u tend to pick up a few friends, re-connect with old ones and end up smack bang in the butter ;)
Coverage methinks will be geared towards curernt Prime coverage since the device is EV-DO.
Device has Wifi b/g.
And no i do not work for them!
Coverage methinks will be geared towards curernt Prime coverage since the device is EV-DO.
Device has Wifi b/g.
And no i do not work for them!
smokey
16-10-2008, 11:40 PM
Those counter-revolutionary capitalist pigs...they don't understand the people's struggle to stop the public having uncapped broadband at acceptable prices! Don't they realise that free competition undermines our freedom to be oppressed by bloated, corrupt, inefficient monopolistic giants like Telkom (and Kenya Telkom)!
Well done, now youll get a cushy job as spokesperson for the ANC/SACP/ORACIFP (other ridiculous and corrupt imbecile filled party) very soon. Youre going up in the world ;)
EDIT: And by world, I mean South Africa
PPS: And by South Africa I mean the ANC's political play toy
Well done, now youll get a cushy job as spokesperson for the ANC/SACP/ORACIFP (other ridiculous and corrupt imbecile filled party) very soon. Youre going up in the world ;)
EDIT: And by world, I mean South Africa
PPS: And by South Africa I mean the ANC's political play toy
mythos4sl
17-10-2008, 12:31 AM
same here i think the hole bundeled minutes is a load of **** i just want uncapped for cheapish! lol i dont need there telphone calls i got skype :) lol
porchrat
17-10-2008, 09:30 AM
Well done, now youll get a cushy job as spokesperson for the ANC/SACP/ORACIFP (other ridiculous and corrupt imbecile filled party) very soon. Youre going up in the world ;)
EDIT: And by world, I mean South Africa
PPS: And by South Africa I mean the ANC's political play toy
LOL
EDIT: And by world, I mean South Africa
PPS: And by South Africa I mean the ANC's political play toy
LOL
porchrat
17-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Well when u attend product launches u tend to pick up a few friends, re-connect with old ones and end up smack bang in the butter ;)
Coverage methinks will be geared towards curernt Prime coverage since the device is EV-DO.
Device has Wifi b/g.
And no i do not work for them!
Well if you're in the butter could you at least get me into the margarine?
Coverage methinks will be geared towards curernt Prime coverage since the device is EV-DO.
Device has Wifi b/g.
And no i do not work for them!
Well if you're in the butter could you at least get me into the margarine?
rph72
17-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Can we expect this device to be launched on Monday??
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Probably to end of next week or end of October. They are not satisfied with the device fully so there are a few updates being done - that's what my source says.
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Margirine is for sissies :p
Kidding!
Kidding!
rph72
17-10-2008, 10:13 AM
Probably to end of next week or end of October. They are not satisfied with the device fully so there are a few updates being done - that's what my source says.
Just called them & they said 1 November, which is a Saturday by the way. sigh :(
Just called them & they said 1 November, which is a Saturday by the way. sigh :(
ID_10_T
17-10-2008, 10:34 AM
Will there be new pricing / packages etc?
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 10:45 AM
There we go confirmation!! Most likely new pricing / pacakages.
rtzouves
17-10-2008, 10:49 AM
Will there be new pricing / packages etc?
Yes apparently there will be, but my inside informant ;) tells me their will be no uncapped option available on the new devices. :eek:
/me curses neotel for their lack of foresite :p
Yes apparently there will be, but my inside informant ;) tells me their will be no uncapped option available on the new devices. :eek:
/me curses neotel for their lack of foresite :p
rtzouves
17-10-2008, 10:51 AM
Just called them & they said 1 November, which is a Saturday by the way. sigh :(
/me Wishing I had taken the R100 bet with criticalconsumer :p
/me Wishing I had taken the R100 bet with criticalconsumer :p
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Patience my dear children patience...
You cannot show all your cards in one hand!
You cannot show all your cards in one hand!
smokey
17-10-2008, 11:57 AM
IF it's true that they wont offer uncapped with the new devices, then they are idiots/morons/gluttonous pigs. Really, they were supposed to make things better. From te beginning I was on Neotels side, making excuses for them and telling people that Rome wasnt built in a day - but neither was it built on a follow the leader (Helkom) attitude. Bestc omparison would be Sony of late - huge potential that was *****ed up coz of greed. W@nkers!
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 12:05 PM
Oi vey!
Calm down man - its just data...and not a matter of life and death!
Calm down man - its just data...and not a matter of life and death!
rtzouves
17-10-2008, 12:30 PM
IF it's true that they wont offer uncapped with the new devices, then they are idiots/morons/gluttonous pigs. Really, they were supposed to make things better. From te beginning I was on Neotels side, making excuses for them and telling people that Rome wasnt built in a day - but neither was it built on a follow the leader (Helkom) attitude. Bestc omparison would be Sony of late - huge potential that was *****ed up coz of greed. W@nkers!
Oops, maybe i should have said no uncapped on the new devices immediately at launch. I am sure they will eventually start offering uncapped but from what i am told (note this is not a fact, but heresay) there will not be any new very high usage (plus 30GB) packages launched and you won't be able to use the new device on the prime package, but once again this is not a confirmed fact. I am also a bit dissapointed if this is the case, because i was simply hoping to swap/purchase the REV A device and use it on the package i am currently on.
We will just have to wait until neotel gives us an official breakdown on the new packages and devices. Simply put...wait and see.
Oops, maybe i should have said no uncapped on the new devices immediately at launch. I am sure they will eventually start offering uncapped but from what i am told (note this is not a fact, but heresay) there will not be any new very high usage (plus 30GB) packages launched and you won't be able to use the new device on the prime package, but once again this is not a confirmed fact. I am also a bit dissapointed if this is the case, because i was simply hoping to swap/purchase the REV A device and use it on the package i am currently on.
We will just have to wait until neotel gives us an official breakdown on the new packages and devices. Simply put...wait and see.
pkid
17-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Oops, maybe i should have said no uncapped on the new devices immediately at launch. I am sure they will eventually start offering uncapped but from what i am told (note this is not a fact, but heresay) there will not be any new very high usage (plus 30GB) packages launched and you won't be able to use the new device on the prime package, but once again this is not a confirmed fact. I am also a bit dissapointed if this is the case, because i was simply hoping to swap/purchase the REV A device and use it on the package i am currently on.
We will just have to wait until neotel gives us an official breakdown on the new packages and devices. Simply put...wait and see.
I can understand their reluctance to offer uncapped with the new device. It would make it far easier to share the connection with many computers at a time and so would probably increase the data that the average person uses cause now you can have 3 people watching Youtube videos at the same time. For wireless data they aren't that bad. For high end packages they are still much, much cheaper than MTN or Vodacom. All is not lost :)
We will just have to wait until neotel gives us an official breakdown on the new packages and devices. Simply put...wait and see.
I can understand their reluctance to offer uncapped with the new device. It would make it far easier to share the connection with many computers at a time and so would probably increase the data that the average person uses cause now you can have 3 people watching Youtube videos at the same time. For wireless data they aren't that bad. For high end packages they are still much, much cheaper than MTN or Vodacom. All is not lost :)
StefK
17-10-2008, 12:59 PM
I for one won't be lynching anyone yet, based on just hearsay.
But with that said: God help Neotel if the don't offer uncapped prime packages on the new ethernet device.
They have been spared a consumer lambasting despite:
- a tiny coverage footprint,
- lack of usage tracking interface and allegations of incorrect usage billing, and
- a perceived progressive general slowdown of "NeoConnect Prime" service speed, as more users have been coming aboard.
but I fear this might be the straw that breaks some poor camels back.
I hope you're taking notes, Mr. Neotel Representative.
But with that said: God help Neotel if the don't offer uncapped prime packages on the new ethernet device.
They have been spared a consumer lambasting despite:
- a tiny coverage footprint,
- lack of usage tracking interface and allegations of incorrect usage billing, and
- a perceived progressive general slowdown of "NeoConnect Prime" service speed, as more users have been coming aboard.
but I fear this might be the straw that breaks some poor camels back.
I hope you're taking notes, Mr. Neotel Representative.
StefK
17-10-2008, 01:09 PM
I can understand their reluctance to offer uncapped with the new device. It would make it far easier to share the connection with many computers at a time and so would probably increase the data that the average person uses cause now you can have 3 people watching Youtube videos at the same time. For wireless data they aren't that bad. For high end packages they are still much, much cheaper than MTN or Vodacom. All is not lost :)
PS : While this is a fair attempt at justification, it is flawed in my opinion, as the connection can still only handle the maximum throughput 2.4mbps/700kbps/whatever no matter how many monkeys you have watching YouTube. If you sell someone a uncapped 2.4mbps service, surely it shouldn't matter what device you use to access it...
Or maybe I'm growing idealistic in my old age... I digress.
PS : While this is a fair attempt at justification, it is flawed in my opinion, as the connection can still only handle the maximum throughput 2.4mbps/700kbps/whatever no matter how many monkeys you have watching YouTube. If you sell someone a uncapped 2.4mbps service, surely it shouldn't matter what device you use to access it...
Or maybe I'm growing idealistic in my old age... I digress.
DarkDenim
17-10-2008, 01:18 PM
You guys complain about everything huh? Neotel are doing their best to provide you lame South Africans with internet access but all you do is bash them. Have patience or sign up with hellBurst or Hellkom.
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 01:50 PM
People based on the launch I attended this is going to be a new PRODUCT altogether!
With two new packages,pricing....and bundles.
With two new packages,pricing....and bundles.
rph72
17-10-2008, 01:59 PM
People based on the launch I attended this is going to be a new PRODUCT altogether!
With two new packages,pricing....and bundles.
Prepaid bundles?
With two new packages,pricing....and bundles.
Prepaid bundles?
cbrunsdonza
17-10-2008, 02:24 PM
@smokey ... so you having a grumpy Friday !!! I will rather wait and see what Neotel publish before I make assumptions.
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 02:28 PM
Umm pre-paid? You are asking for a miracle for that to happen!
Most likely post-paid
Most likely post-paid
rph72
17-10-2008, 02:34 PM
Umm pre-paid? You are asking for a miracle for that to happen!
Most likely post-paid
2.5G, 5G, 10G packages like NeoConnect Prime?
Most likely post-paid
2.5G, 5G, 10G packages like NeoConnect Prime?
rph72
17-10-2008, 02:37 PM
How about posting a picture of the device. Wont tell, promise :D
CriticalConsumer
17-10-2008, 05:52 PM
Hint: search for CDMA Rev A 4 port ethernet router on google.
chubster
17-10-2008, 06:20 PM
Google returns something that looks like a car's amplifier. :D
porchrat
17-10-2008, 06:32 PM
and google returns this thread
God tell me it isn't this Linksys thing! (http://www.realtech.co.za/realwiki.php?title=WRT54G)
I don't have a big enough desk!
Nothing I own matches that horrible blue!
It looks like if I poked it long enough it would eat my finger...why Neotel!
God tell me it isn't this Linksys thing! (http://www.realtech.co.za/realwiki.php?title=WRT54G)
I don't have a big enough desk!
Nothing I own matches that horrible blue!
It looks like if I poked it long enough it would eat my finger...why Neotel!
Drunkard #1
17-10-2008, 07:20 PM
What a fugly router. I'll take it! :-)
Yotch
18-10-2008, 12:42 AM
Maybe this ... ?
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=7846
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=7846
Drunkard #1
18-10-2008, 09:24 AM
That thing's too pretty, it can't possibly be designed for real work.
CriticalConsumer
18-10-2008, 10:01 AM
Yotch - close but no cigar! Search more...the image or link was posted on this forum some time back by one of you guys...;)
rph72
18-10-2008, 10:31 AM
Maybe this?
http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=862
http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=862
Yotch
18-10-2008, 02:42 PM
I think it's probably the Cradlepoint MBR1000?
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
http://www.cradlepoint.com/mbr1000/mbr1000.php
or possibly one of the Axesstel devices since Dupont Telecom supplies this equipment
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=3
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=1
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2259/63/
http://www.cradlepoint.com/mbr1000/mbr1000.php
or possibly one of the Axesstel devices since Dupont Telecom supplies this equipment
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=3
http://www.axesstel.com/fixed/3G_broadband_gateways.php?id=1
Drunkard #1
18-10-2008, 03:33 PM
I want a device with dip switches and no web interface. That way, once its working, it keeps working. NO GLOSS PLASTIC. The body should be billet aluminum, with one LED and max 2 buttons - dedicated power switch and reset button. 220 v power supply (internal transformer). Commands should be sent using the AT command set over RS 232 and hyper-terminal. ONE 10/100 Ethernet port. External aerial connection only, using standard (cheap) cable, connectors and aerial. Now we can start talking about contracts...
CriticalConsumer
18-10-2008, 06:46 PM
2nd one seems about right @ Yotch :D
That's what I saw on demo @ the launch of the Samsung partnership...
That's what I saw on demo @ the launch of the Samsung partnership...
chubster
19-10-2008, 06:57 PM
IF it's true that they wont offer uncapped with the new devices, then they are idiots/morons/gluttonous pigs. Really, they were supposed to make things better. From te beginning I was on Neotels side, making excuses for them and telling people that Rome wasnt built in a day - but neither was it built on a follow the leader (Helkom) attitude. Bestc omparison would be Sony of late - huge potential that was *****ed up coz of greed. W@nkers!
Sure sounds like they are limiting us from using products like Skype or any other type of VoIP :'(
Sure sounds like they are limiting us from using products like Skype or any other type of VoIP :'(
porchrat
20-10-2008, 08:53 AM
Sure sounds like they are limiting us from using products like Skype or any other type of VoIP :'(
especially when you look at how they overestimate your usage
especially when you look at how they overestimate your usage
zerofocus
30-10-2008, 08:41 PM
Please tell me there's some news on the eth device?
HellTel
30-10-2008, 08:56 PM
GUYS GUYS GUYS AND GALS!!!
STOP GUESSING!!
NEOTEL IS TELSKUM'S BEACH AND THATS IT .............
STOP GUESSING!!
NEOTEL IS TELSKUM'S BEACH AND THATS IT .............
rph72
03-11-2008, 07:14 AM
Monday 3 November is finally here. Been waiting very patiently. Is the Rev A Router here yet?
zerofocus
03-11-2008, 07:41 AM
Monday 3 November is finally here. Been waiting very patiently. Is the Rev A Router here yet?
I really hope it is!
I really hope it is!
rph72
03-11-2008, 10:05 AM
Will only be available from the 20th :eek::(
porchrat
03-11-2008, 10:09 AM
Will only be available from the 20th :eek::(
Where did you read that? Can you post a link?
Where did you read that? Can you post a link?
rph72
03-11-2008, 10:11 AM
Where did you read that? Can you post a link?
I called them.
I called them.
porchrat
03-11-2008, 10:27 AM
I called them.
I suppose it makes no difference to me as I don't have coverage, and probably won't for a long time, I see the closest coverage to me is well over 10km away and when I type in my suburb they say it doesn't exist.
However I would like to know they have what I need in terms of devices so all I need to wait for is coverage...in 2015, although by then we'll be accessing the internet through chips in our brains, and my brain will still only have Lite coverage.
I also know they will have a lot more customers wanting to sign up once the device is available and I want to see what happens to the speeds of Neotel customers once that starts. I'm betting on sub-dial-up speeds.
I suppose it makes no difference to me as I don't have coverage, and probably won't for a long time, I see the closest coverage to me is well over 10km away and when I type in my suburb they say it doesn't exist.
However I would like to know they have what I need in terms of devices so all I need to wait for is coverage...in 2015, although by then we'll be accessing the internet through chips in our brains, and my brain will still only have Lite coverage.
I also know they will have a lot more customers wanting to sign up once the device is available and I want to see what happens to the speeds of Neotel customers once that starts. I'm betting on sub-dial-up speeds.
zerofocus
03-11-2008, 10:32 AM
I also know they will have a lot more customers wanting to sign up once the device is available and I want to see what happens to the speeds of Neotel customers once that starts. I'm betting on sub-dial-up speeds.
Let's hope not!
Let's hope not!
porchrat
03-11-2008, 10:46 AM
Let's hope not!
For sure I'm hoping that won't happen as I would really like to believe Neotel is what it says it is, and can support the speeds it advertises. I hate Telkom and would really like some genuine competition for them.
However I can't afford to get involved in a 24 month contract only to find out that the speeds (and terribly unreliable devices) make the service unusable. If they could organise a month-to-month option (even if I had to buy a device upfront that could be used on another contract with them at a later stage) I would sign up yesterday.
For sure I'm hoping that won't happen as I would really like to believe Neotel is what it says it is, and can support the speeds it advertises. I hate Telkom and would really like some genuine competition for them.
However I can't afford to get involved in a 24 month contract only to find out that the speeds (and terribly unreliable devices) make the service unusable. If they could organise a month-to-month option (even if I had to buy a device upfront that could be used on another contract with them at a later stage) I would sign up yesterday.
zerofocus
03-11-2008, 10:51 AM
However I can't afford to get involved in a 24 month contract only to find out that the speeds (and terribly unreliable devices) make the service unusable. If they could organise a month-to-month option (even if I had to buy a device upfront that could be used on another contract with them at a later stage) I would sign up yesterday.
Same here. The other thing that bugs me is the fact that you can't use the device with any other service provider (like with telkom). But it's still worth it to me.
Same here. The other thing that bugs me is the fact that you can't use the device with any other service provider (like with telkom). But it's still worth it to me.
Drunkard #1
03-11-2008, 07:01 PM
So, Monday 3 November came and went, and there wasn't even a whisper from Neotel, pity.
rph72
04-11-2008, 08:02 AM
So, Monday 3 November came and went, and there wasn't even a whisper from Neotel, pity.
Very sad. I wonder how many more times will the launch date be pushed back. :rolleyes: Seems the launch date is reset every 100 days. :rolleyes:
Very sad. I wonder how many more times will the launch date be pushed back. :rolleyes: Seems the launch date is reset every 100 days. :rolleyes:
armitage
04-11-2008, 09:19 AM
Just phoned them.
Device here on the 20th November.
No uncapped solution.
10/15gb packages only though :/
ffs. wonder whats the chances one can get ure settings from the phone and port it over to the router :P
Device here on the 20th November.
No uncapped solution.
10/15gb packages only though :/
ffs. wonder whats the chances one can get ure settings from the phone and port it over to the router :P
CriticalConsumer
04-11-2008, 10:06 AM
Won't work...you need the R/UIM to be coded for it to work on the network (maybe I misunderstood :confused:)
porchrat
06-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Just phoned them.
Device here on the 20th November.
No uncapped solution.
10/15gb packages only though :/
It is like Neotel are going out of their way to push customers away. They claim to read these forums, but I'm not so sure they do. Perhaps if they read them a little more carefully they would discover that people want uncapped on ethernet.
Device here on the 20th November.
No uncapped solution.
10/15gb packages only though :/
It is like Neotel are going out of their way to push customers away. They claim to read these forums, but I'm not so sure they do. Perhaps if they read them a little more carefully they would discover that people want uncapped on ethernet.
armitage
06-11-2008, 10:42 AM
yeah, what boggles my mind is that a company can sell me an uncapped modem, but refuse to do so with their ethernet device.
I'm still going to be doing precisely the same thing now that I have a modem that I would have done with an ethernet device.
All that this means is ill have to dust off some old pc parts. assemble a pc, build a dhcp server and route all the traffic on the network through it.
Their argument that if they released an uncapped ethernet device that a lot of users can connect using one connection is just stupid.
I'm still going to be doing precisely the same thing now that I have a modem that I would have done with an ethernet device.
All that this means is ill have to dust off some old pc parts. assemble a pc, build a dhcp server and route all the traffic on the network through it.
Their argument that if they released an uncapped ethernet device that a lot of users can connect using one connection is just stupid.
sunsoffun
06-11-2008, 11:37 AM
yeah, what boggles my mind is that a company can sell me an uncapped modem, but refuse to do so with their ethernet device.
Proudly SA! I wonder if the directors at neotel actually know what ethernet is....
I can just imagine it in the boardroom...
Ajay Pandey, "...ethernet, whats that? Sounds technical... best we not give it to the customers for now. Let them wait, until we figure it out what it does!"
Sango Ntsaluba, "eish, it is coppa wire"!
Ajay Pandey, "dooogh....I though we were wireless"
Sango Ntsaluba, "no boss, yes boss... eish dis it to difficult... you are confusing for me now"
Proudly SA! I wonder if the directors at neotel actually know what ethernet is....
I can just imagine it in the boardroom...
Ajay Pandey, "...ethernet, whats that? Sounds technical... best we not give it to the customers for now. Let them wait, until we figure it out what it does!"
Sango Ntsaluba, "eish, it is coppa wire"!
Ajay Pandey, "dooogh....I though we were wireless"
Sango Ntsaluba, "no boss, yes boss... eish dis it to difficult... you are confusing for me now"
cbrunsdonza
06-11-2008, 12:44 PM
+1
armitage
06-11-2008, 12:48 PM
lol. don't think its that bad up at the top.
The problem with big corporates are that they usually try to get the biggest market share.
Hence we saw now the big fiasco with the usb phone and having a battery so that it could be used in power outs...
From the FAQ on why the thing didn't have ethernet they said that ethernet drained power too much. U might have noticed cellphones do not also have an ethernet port :P
So yeah, the device their using is a study in designing something for the masses. It's got a normal telephony look to it. no great hassle if you don't have a pc since it can still be used as a normal phone. If you do choose to connect it to a pc then they use the easiest method which is usb unfortunately :/
If we had a ethernet device from the get go just imagine how their tech support would look with all the ppl phoning up wondering what the hell DHCP, FIREWALL, NAT is...
But then again... if they were really smart they would try to get a hook in with the early adopters.....and the early adopters from the getgo wanted............ETHERNET/ROUTER type device. aai aai.
The problem with big corporates are that they usually try to get the biggest market share.
Hence we saw now the big fiasco with the usb phone and having a battery so that it could be used in power outs...
From the FAQ on why the thing didn't have ethernet they said that ethernet drained power too much. U might have noticed cellphones do not also have an ethernet port :P
So yeah, the device their using is a study in designing something for the masses. It's got a normal telephony look to it. no great hassle if you don't have a pc since it can still be used as a normal phone. If you do choose to connect it to a pc then they use the easiest method which is usb unfortunately :/
If we had a ethernet device from the get go just imagine how their tech support would look with all the ppl phoning up wondering what the hell DHCP, FIREWALL, NAT is...
But then again... if they were really smart they would try to get a hook in with the early adopters.....and the early adopters from the getgo wanted............ETHERNET/ROUTER type device. aai aai.
Chevron
06-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Their argument that if they released an uncapped ethernet device that a lot of users can connect using one connection is just stupid.
Maybe they think that if four pcs are connected to the router, that we'll get 4*3.1Mbps download speed so we'll use four times the data. :D
If that were true I'd get my own router hooked up to it as well and get 7*3.1Mbps DL speed. A 20Mbps connection would be orsum. :p
Seriously though. Amount of pcs connected should not affect it. It really seems that the think more pcs will equal higher dl speed. That's pathetic.
3.1Mbps is 29% faster than 2.4Mbps. They could've offered the same R999 2.4Mbps package at R1299. If they wanna make extra cash take away the free minutes and sms.
Why take away the whole package completely? :confused:
Madness. :sick:
Maybe they think that if four pcs are connected to the router, that we'll get 4*3.1Mbps download speed so we'll use four times the data. :D
If that were true I'd get my own router hooked up to it as well and get 7*3.1Mbps DL speed. A 20Mbps connection would be orsum. :p
Seriously though. Amount of pcs connected should not affect it. It really seems that the think more pcs will equal higher dl speed. That's pathetic.
3.1Mbps is 29% faster than 2.4Mbps. They could've offered the same R999 2.4Mbps package at R1299. If they wanna make extra cash take away the free minutes and sms.
Why take away the whole package completely? :confused:
Madness. :sick:
armitage
06-11-2008, 03:00 PM
Think that's precisely what my rep thought...
Might be that they hope that you wont fully utilise the uncapped a.k.a download like a badboy... and just use ure connection like a normal user would....
If so then i get their thought train that more users would equal more usage as the chances of someone using the connection most of the time is increased...
but yeah, assumptions.......is the mother of all........ u get the drift.
Might be that they hope that you wont fully utilise the uncapped a.k.a download like a badboy... and just use ure connection like a normal user would....
If so then i get their thought train that more users would equal more usage as the chances of someone using the connection most of the time is increased...
but yeah, assumptions.......is the mother of all........ u get the drift.
zerofocus
20-11-2008, 06:11 AM
According to a previous post we'll be able to get the device today, right?
konfab
20-11-2008, 08:27 AM
Maybe they mean this afternoon :p
zerofocus
20-11-2008, 08:32 AM
Maybe they mean this afternoon :p
I was actually hoping to go pick it up after work, so that's great! :D
I was actually hoping to go pick it up after work, so that's great! :D
ID_10_T
20-11-2008, 09:02 AM
whatever, wishful thinking, pigs fly, go unicorns, etc.
zerofocus
20-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Just got this back from Neotel regarding the new ethernet device (after the normal 24 hour wait)...
Dear xxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for the interest in Neotel services.
We do not have a specific date but it will be in the very near future.
Dear xxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for the interest in Neotel services.
We do not have a specific date but it will be in the very near future.
pkid
20-11-2008, 10:09 AM
Just got this back from Neotel regarding the new ethernet device (after the normal 24 hour wait)...
I applaud Neotel...not.
I applaud Neotel...not.
rph72
20-11-2008, 10:56 AM
I called them yesterday and they said early next year some time. :mad:
enerdude
23-01-2009, 11:38 AM
Not completely on topic, but interesting article @
http://www.iweek.co.za/ViewStory.asp?StoryID=190205
http://www.iweek.co.za/ViewStory.asp?StoryID=190205
B2048
23-01-2009, 02:34 PM
If they wanna make extra cash take away the free minutes and sms.
Why take away the whole package completely? :confused:
Madness. :sick:
They know nobody uses the free minutes because the voice quality is so *excellent* that it sounds like you are phoning from overseas. Remember that not all the free things in life are the best!
:D
B.
Why take away the whole package completely? :confused:
Madness. :sick:
They know nobody uses the free minutes because the voice quality is so *excellent* that it sounds like you are phoning from overseas. Remember that not all the free things in life are the best!
:D
B.
ads
26-01-2009, 01:03 AM
They know nobody uses the free minutes because the voice quality is so *excellent* that it sounds like you are phoning from overseas. Remember that not all the free things in life are the best!
You obviously don't have the vaguest idea what you are talking about. The networks with the most atrocious voice quality, by far, are the three mobile networks, in no particuar order. My experience of the Neotel voice quality (both CDMA and their business voice services) has been excellent, except, of course, when there's a lousy GSM or UMTS phone at the other end.
You obviously don't have the vaguest idea what you are talking about. The networks with the most atrocious voice quality, by far, are the three mobile networks, in no particuar order. My experience of the Neotel voice quality (both CDMA and their business voice services) has been excellent, except, of course, when there's a lousy GSM or UMTS phone at the other end.
B2048
26-01-2009, 08:03 AM
You obviously don't have the vaguest idea what you are talking about.
Yes, I do, since I have a Neotel phone and have tried using it in various locations where there is Excellent coverage.
But you are forgiven for your blunder.
:D
B.
Yes, I do, since I have a Neotel phone and have tried using it in various locations where there is Excellent coverage.
But you are forgiven for your blunder.
:D
B.