Man United mafia [Archive]

Genius.

02-09-2008, 12:24 PM

One of the biggest news on sky sports today is the fact that Man United acted like the mafia last night.

They were not given permission to talk to Berbatov. Man City was given permission. They proceeded to swoop the player, had a medical done. Spurs released a statement saying that they will complain and have an investigation done.

Then in a surprising twist, the player signs and Spurs say they will not pursue with a complaint.

The story goes on by saying that HUSH money had to be given to Spurs. The expert on sky said that Man United is a disgrace to football and the way transfers are done. He hopes that a investigation is still done and that United can be exposed cos this type of behaviour is pathetic and breaks all the laws of football.

He also said its reasons like this that give football a bad name, and that United act like the mafia thinking they are above the law.

What hypocrits United are. They make such a big woop ha about Ronaldo and Madrid and then they do this.

Goodluck to them.:rolleyes:

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 12:38 PM

Same thing I was saying last night!

Real madrid at no time spoke to Ronaldo during the whole saga, yet got accused by Manchester of tapping up their player.Fifa sided with Real Madrid on the whole thing saying they were not at fault.

Manchester not only hold talks with Berbatov but give him a medical on top of it.What a bunch of hypocrites.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 01:01 PM

Yup, they sent a limo to pick him up as well. So they were saying that United think they are above the law. Not allowed to talk to the player but they send a car to pick him up and bring him to Old trafford.

Disgrace!

derekc

02-09-2008, 02:05 PM

Source please...

mercurial

02-09-2008, 02:09 PM

Source please...

Don't bother entertaining these very sad individuals. They're sour worms that ManYoo signed Berba but Real couldn't get Ronaldo. Leave them be. Come join us in the Premier League and Man United thread.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 02:14 PM

Source please...

I watched it on sky live report.

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 02:49 PM

Don't bother entertaining these very sad individuals. They're sour worms that ManYoo signed Berba but Real couldn't get Ronaldo. Leave them be. Come join us in the Premier League and Man United thread.

Pathetic, why would we care about real madrid and ronaldo if we barca fans.For all I care ronaldo could have gone to hull city.
Its funny all the manure fans were going on about real madrid but now that they have seen what manchester do to get players they quiet.

icyrus

02-09-2008, 02:54 PM

Pathetic, why would we care about real madrid and ronaldo if we barca fans.For all I care ronaldo could have gone to hull city.
Its funny all the manure fans were going on about real madrid but now that they have seen what manchester do to get players they quiet.

Of course, and your are obviously a mature, well-adjusted person hence the derogatory remarks towards other teams.

Anyone actually have any proof of these allegations? Or even a link to a credible news source running these allegations? Without at least this we might as well talk about how Spanish Football is covertly controlled by a race of lizard-men.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 02:56 PM

Of course, and your are obviously a mature, well-adjusted person hence the derogatory remarks towards other teams.

Anyone actually have any proof of these allegations? Or even a link to a credible news source running these allegations? Without at least this we might as well talk about how Spanish Football is covertly controlled by a race of lizard-men.

Credible source? I watched it on Sky Live report that comes on Supersport everyday at 12 - 1pm. You do know that channel?

They were discussing how they hope the FA will still investivgate the matter.

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Of course, and your are obviously a mature, well-adjusted person hence the derogatory remarks towards other teams.

Anyone actually have any proof of these allegations? Or even a link to a credible news source running these allegations? Without at least this we might as well talk about how Spanish Football is covertly controlled by a race of lizard-men.

Like genius said, the debate was on Sky Sports News.
The facts are all over the net regarding Spurs not giving permission to talk to Berbatov, only city had permission.
Yet manchester still went ahead holding talks with him and even going ahead with a medical on the player.If you know fifa's laws regarding teams aproaching players you would know that its illegal unless given permission by the other team.

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:01 PM

Credible source? I watched it on Sky Live report that comes on Supersport everyday at 12 - 1pm. You do know that channel?

They were discussing how they hope the FA will still investivgate the matter.

I didn't see the show so I can't judge how credible it was. Who made the accusations and what evidence did they present?

If it was on Sky than surely they would follow it up their website?

Like genius said, the debate was on Sky Sports News.
The facts are all over the net regarding Spurs not giving permission to talk to Berbatov, only city had permission.
Yet manchester still went ahead holding talks with him and even going ahead with a medical on the player.If you know fifa's laws regarding teams aproaching players you would know that its illegal unless given permission by the other team.

If the facts are all over the net then surely there will be no problem providing links?

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 03:05 PM

I didn't see the show so I can't judge how credible it was. Who made the accusations and what evidence did they present?

If it was on Sky than surely they would follow it up their website?

If the facts are all over the net then surely there will be no problem providing links?
Im sure you know how to use google but here you go...
One source:
Goal.com

Meanwhile United, who have not had a bid accepted, have reportedly been holding talks with the 27-year-old at their training ground, Carrington, and even having a medical with the double-winners, according to Sky Sports News. This prompted Tottenham to reiterate in an official statement that United had not been given permission to speak to the player.

Another:

The Times:

They claimed that United had not been given permission to talk to the forward, because no bid had been accepted. Tottenham had turned down United’s £25 million offer two weeks ago.

Tottenham then threatened action against United for an alleged “tapping-up”, as well as scuppering their chances of selling Berbatov to City.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:07 PM

I didn't see the show so I can't judge how credible it was. Who made the accusations and what evidence did they present?

If it was on Sky than surely they would follow it up their website?

If the facts are all over the net then surely there will be no problem providing links?

We all know how credible Sky is. The debate was on sky live report during lunch time. So it is very credible. It was an expert in studio providing insight into the Berbatov saga. I dont know why it isnt on the sky's webiste yet, i never checked.

I dont think they will get FACTS regarding under hand dealings unless an investigation is done.

Here are the facts that were on skys site last night: You can check and confirm.

Berbatov was picked up by Man United
Berbatov was having a medical done at Old Trafford last night.
Spurs did not give permission to United to speak to Berbatov.

Now that facts alone, are in direct conflict with FIFA law! Clubs are not allowed to do speak to players without permission.

I guess all United fans are saying its ok now, cos their club is doing it. Just turn a blind eye. Thats what the sky expert in studio said.

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:08 PM

Im sure you know how to use google but here you go...
One source:
Goal.com

And yet nothing on reputable news sites? Odd isn't it?

The snippet you posted points to Tottenham disputing what was said on Sky Sports rather than the actions of Manchester United.

I am sure you can appreciate the fact that just because one of the talking-heads on Sky Sports said something, doesn't necessarily make it true. Perhaps you should wait for some evidence before getting out the pitchforks?

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:09 PM

And yet nothing on reputable news sites? Odd isn't it?

The snippet you posted points to Tottenham disputing what was said on Sky Sports rather than the actions of Manchester United.

I am sure you can appreciate the fact that just because one of the talking-heads on Sky Sports said something, doesn't necessarily make it true. Perhaps you should wait for some evidence before getting out the pitchforks?

Read my above post.

There was a photo of Berbatov at Old Trafford on their site!!!

Credible enough for you?

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 03:10 PM

And yet nothing on reputable news sites? Odd isn't it?

The snippet you posted points to Tottenham disputing what was said on Sky Sports rather than the actions of Manchester United.

I am sure you can appreciate the fact that just because one of the talking-heads on Sky Sports said something, doesn't necessarily make it true. Perhaps you should wait for some evidence before getting out the pitchforks?

Do you even watch football?Goal.com is the top football site on the net.

I also posted a quote from the TIMES, last time I checked they were a "reputable" news source.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:11 PM

Nobody can dispute that United spoke to Berbatov and had a medical donw with out the permission from Spurs.

It was absolutely all over the net last night. Every news site was reporting it.

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:14 PM

We all know how credible Sky is. The debate was on sky live report during lunch time. So it is very credible. It was an expert in studio providing insight into the Berbatov saga. I dont know why it isnt on the sky's webiste yet, i never checked.

An expert at what? And how does he know what is going on between Manchester United and Tottenham?

I dont think they will get FACTS regarding under hand dealings unless an investigation is done.

Then perhaps you should hold judgement till then?

Here are the facts that were on skys site last night: You can check and confirm.

Berbatov was picked up by Man United
Berbatov was having a medical done at Old Trafford last night.
Spurs did not give permission to United to speak to Berbatov.

Funny, because non of that is on Sky Sports' website now. Or the BBC's for that matter.

I think that in your haste to jump on the bandwagon you may have been misled. Are you sure you are not basing this whole outcry on then Daniel Levy corrected Sky Sports that they had not accepted a bid yet from Manchester United when they had mistakenly reported that they had?

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:15 PM

Nobody can dispute that United spoke to Berbatov and had a medical donw with out the permission from Spurs.

It was absolutely all over the net last night. Every news site was reporting it.

Surely because internet sites report unconfirmed rumors it doesn't make them true?

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:17 PM

Read my above post.

There was a photo of Berbatov at Old Trafford on their site!!!

Credible enough for you?

No, unless you can provide the exact time of the photo and the exact time that Spurs and United came to an agreement?

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 03:17 PM

Unconfirmed?
They showed the guy speaking to ferguson at old trafford when they hadnt given him permision to talk to the player on TV.What more proof do you want?

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:19 PM

Do you even watch football?Goal.com is the top football site on the net.

I also posted a quote from the TIMES, last time I checked they were a "reputable" news source.

You added The Times part in afterwards plus you didn't actually provide links.

Sorry but while goal.com may be a useful community site they are not a reputable news source. Aren't most their stories syndicated anyway?

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:20 PM

An expert at what? And how does he know what is going on between Manchester United and Tottenham?

Then perhaps you should hold judgement till then?

Funny, because non of that is on Sky Sports' website now. Or the BBC's for that matter.

I think that in your haste to jump on the bandwagon you may have been misled. Are you sure you are not basing this whole outcry on then Daniel Levy corrected Sky Sports that they had not accepted a bid yet from Manchester United when they had mistakenly reported that they had?

You clearly do not follow football closely enough then.

I am not missled at all. If you watch sky sports you would know that their experts consist of past players and coaches. Pundits in the game, they know they game. Sky sports is the most credible source of information, they are the no 1 football news channel in the world. Their experts are not any tom dick and harry - they are football people.

I saw all the pics last night, when i was staying up until 1am to see the latest transfers. On Skys site, they had a pic of Berbatov at OT. If u cant find it, really doesnt bother me.

Why would Sky make such a big thing during their live report which is probably their NUMBER ONE DAY in the year! transfer day. Yet they still found the time to discuss this, but hey maybe they were lying when they said that Berbatov was picked up my a Man U car and maybe they were lying when they showed video of berbatov at Old trafford last night.

Maybe the video they were showing was just really a look alike to Berbatov at Old trafford last night.

Maybe Sky news is the new Voice or Die Son. Maybe i should have recorded the video and sent it to you, maybe then i can sleep tonight knowing that i have shown you that i am not making this up.

Maybe...

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:20 PM

Unconfirmed?
They showed the guy speaking to ferguson at old trafford when they hadnt given him permision to talk to the player on TV.What more proof do you want?

Timing. Spurs and United did reach an agreement. How do you know the pictures are taken before then? How do you know any of the details of the deal between Spurs and United?

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:22 PM

You clearly do not follow football closely enough then.

I am not missled at all. If you watch sky sports you would know that their experts consist of past players and coaches. Pundits in the game, they know they game. Sky sports is the most credible source of information, they are the no 1 football news channel in the world. Their experts are not any tom dick and harry - they are football people.

I saw all the pics last night, when i was staying up until 1am to see the latest transfers. On Skys site, they had a pic of Berbatov at OT. If u cant find it, really doesnt bother me.

Why would Sky make such a big thing during their live report which is probably their NUMBER ONE DAY in the year! transfer day. Yet they still found the time to discuss this, but hey maybe they were lying when they said that Berbatov was picked up my a Man U car and maybe they were lying when they showed video of berbatov at Old trafford last night.

Maybe the video they were showing was just really a llok alike to Berbatov at Old trafford last night.

Maybe Sky news is the new Voice or Die Son.

I have no doubt that Berbatov was at Old Trafford last night, seeing as he eventually signed a contract with Manchester United.

What you are claiming is that he was there without Spurs' permission not just that he was there. That requires a bit more proof.

As for the expert: a name would go a long way to helping judge what he has to say.

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 03:25 PM

You added The Times part in afterwards plus you didn't actually provide links.

Sorry but while goal.com may be a useful community site they are not a reputable news source. Aren't most their stories syndicated anyway?

I posted it before your replied but removed it and added to the original post as it never needed another post.

Source:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4657158.ece

another source, by a little site called the bbc

In July, Spurs submitted a year's worth of evidence to the Premier League to support their complaint of Manchester United's "disgraceful" pursuit of the forward.

And until late on Monday, the White Hart Lane club had confirmed that they had agreed a transfer fee only with City.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7592272.stm

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:26 PM

I have no doubt that Berbatov was at Old Trafford last night, seeing as he eventually signed a contract with Manchester United.

What you are claiming is that he was there without Spurs' permission not just that he was there. That requires a bit more proof.

As for the expert: a name would go a long way to helping judge what he has to say.

Im done proving anything. Spurs released a statement saying that they did not give United permision to speak to Berbatov.

Hence a insert in sky news report was dedicated to how can United still pick him up and have his medical done. Google is your friend, use it.

I dont give a F where Berbatov went or ended up, he could goto Wigan for all i care. Its just irritating when u have to spell it out what happened to people.

it happed on Sky, they made a issue of it - they are hoping it will get investigated. Issue closed! If u dont beleive it, tough luck!

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:28 PM

Thx SUPA!!! That should keep him quiet.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:29 PM

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As it emerged that Berbatov may have been having a medical, Tottenham, who were striving for information about the whereabouts of their player, were getting increasingly hot under the collar. They claimed that United had not been given permission to talk to the forward, because no bid had been accepted. Tottenham had turned down United’s £25 million offer two weeks ago.

Tottenham then threatened action against United for an alleged “tapping-up”, as well as scuppering their chances of selling Berbatov to City.

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:30 PM

I posted it before your replied but removed it and added to the original post as it never needed another post.

Source:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4657158.ece

another source, by a little site called the bbc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7592272.stm

Which doesn't relate to current events. And by the way that "year's worth of evidence" was thrown out as insubstantial.

Im done proving anything. Spurs released a statement saying that they did not give United permision to speak to Berbatov.

Hence a insert in sky news report was dedicated to how can United still pick him up and have his medical done. Google is your friend, use it.

I dont give a F where Berbatov went or ended up, he could goto Wigan for all i care. Its just irritating when u have to spell it out what happened to people.

it happed on Sky, they made a issue of it - they are hoping it will get investigated. Issue closed! If u dont beleive it, tough luck!

You haven't proved anything yet.

Spurs indeed did release a statement when they had not yet reached an agreement with United. They have since done so.

From what I can tell is that this "controversy" comes from the comments of one journalist who was featured on SSN. The factuality of his remarks remains as dubious as yours.

And for someone who doesn't care you sure seem to get your panties in a knot over it.

Genius.

02-09-2008, 03:35 PM

icyrus

02-09-2008, 03:39 PM

LoL - Man yoo supporters are blind to what is happening in front of them. The whole WORLD reports it. Yet, they say - that it is not fact. One journailst? Goal, BBC, Sky, Newsnow - hell even the Americans on ESPN reported it.

Yet, in your mind - United followed procedures. Sure ;) Thats why the video with Berbatov at OT last night, with all the fans outside the stadium - and sky reporters reminding the public that Spurs did not give Untied permission to talk to him is all false. They are making it up.

Also thats why all the papers are printing that a deal was struck that Spurs will not complain to the FA.

If everything was above board, then there should be no reason to complain to the FA.

I can not adequately express my exasperation at your inability to understand reason and as much fun as it is to point out the massive holes in your woefully researched diatribes I do not have the patience to sit and teach you reason and logic on top of it. That is your parents and teachers jobs.

If by now you are still incapable of seeing my point, you will not get it soon.

SuPaStA

02-09-2008, 03:41 PM

Which doesn't relate to current events. And by the way that "year's worth of evidence" was thrown out as insubstantial.

You haven't proved anything yet.

Spurs indeed did release a statement when they had not yet reached an agreement with United. They have since done so.

From what I can tell is that this "controversy" comes from the comments of one journalist who was featured on SSN. The factuality of his remarks remains as dubious as yours.

And for someone who doesn't care you sure seem to get your panties in a knot over it.

I live in the fcking UK, its been on sky spors,radio 1,bbc,ITV etc and EVERY one of them has said man-u have not gotten permission and only city had it.
When spurs released their confirmation that berbatov is allowed to talk to city, he was already in a manchester hospital getting a medical for Man-u.

You dont watch football and its pretty clear you have no clue regarding it.