A dps tip, how to put out 2.4-2.7k dps in a raid with a **** conn

[Morgoth]

his can help range dps do a bit more and helps people with lower latency to compete against others in theory this wont help if if you put your hand over your mousebuttong for example take all 4 fingers 1 goes up while the other goes up, thats how fast this clicks a button for you meaning you have no ms loss between casting spells no1
1)Go download the addon called Lagg info at http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7147/

2)Next go download Auto hotkey at http://www.autohotkey.com/download/
Start it up go to edit script and type the following:

#HotkeyInterval 2000
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70
$1::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("1", "P")
break
Send 1
Sleep, 50
}
return

This for will automate button 1 meaning it sends 111111111111 in under a fraction of a second.

2) Next tie this as a dps to a castsequence macro ( its not that great for melee but casters especially warlocks and hunters can benefit from this)

eg. the hunter macro that im familiar with ( it might be wrong since i dont play hunter :>) is
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show(

put this macro in button 1 , run auto hotkey and keep holding in 1 while dpsing..
laginfo gives you a good indication on the amount of latency lost between casting

you can of course have as many automated keys as possible by just editing the script a bit. replace all the "1" with "2"

Afaik this is not banable by blizzard as long as you release the button and don't use this application for multi boxing. its the same as a logitec keyboard with a automated function.


Hope this helps =)

sux for melee imba for casters have locks increasing their dps by 200 with this

[TheShogun]

I think the question on many of our minds is "will you have my babies?" :P

Thanks, I'm gonna go save my "4" key.

[Morgoth]

if you get me a gamecard xD

[Pornolio]

Before you get to happy shogun... hold a sec hehe

Ok... just a few things to note.
That might have worked in the past, but a lot of things have been changed in the last few months.

That method posted was used in the past when command queuing was server based. Since the release of patch 2.3 ( I think it was 2.3 / 2.4 ), they moved queuing to client side. So, you can mash your mouse button / hotkey, you don't really see the benefit of it since it will only queue up X-amount of times on your side. As you can see the mod is not really in development anymore because of the way Blizzard is dealing with latency issues (eg. client side queuing). However, quartz is still good for casters like mages + locks.

Clicking it at those speeds should not offer you any difference now. In the past it did work... but yes, its been changed quite a number of patches back.

Also, note the macro and refer to my previous post I made about the 3:2 / 1:1 rotation. That macro is an outdated version of the 1:1 rotation... remember the whole syntax change thing I talked about in my previous posts?

The ! thing. You will confuse the hell out of your shot cycles if you dont use the ! infront of your autoshot. :)

[Morgoth]

wrong, what they changed in the past was the /stopcasting command with quarts and DR boom when your latency cast bar goes red that got nerfed and replaced by how fast you can mast your keyboard also being a nerf for people with lagg issues. this brings out more dps for our latency seeing that clientside gets send and receive slower then European players, our top dps warlock at the moment is pushing 2.6k dps another one who refuses to autohotkey gets 2.4 with 1-2 item difference on rawr program it shows em both on 2.5k dps so this will in fact up your damage.

As for what a macro goes i got it on a old hunter forum in my guild so that might be wrong I play a feral druid tank :P

[TheShogun]

I wasn't planning on using that macro since I have a 3:2 from BRK that I use (I was a bit of a tard with mine and misplaced Kill Command so i was getting lockouts)
Worst case scenario, using this means I don't have to faceroll my Macro button when it's needed, I can just hold down the button.

Obviously only on my Hunter though.

I couldn't use this kind of setup for my Priest, Rogue or Warrior.

[Morgoth]

its a warlock / hunter thing, it is possible to put timers in for priests etc but this will be against Blizzard TOU. autohotkey itself is a borderline thing.

[Oculate]

Pm AcidRazor :) He gets them REAL cheap

[agerbon]

I use quartz and I can achieve around 2.5k Dps.

With latency of around 400 - 500 ms.

[Morgoth]

try use this tonight with a castsequence macro and see if it ups your dps I'm pretty sure its gonna screw quarts to **** many casters In my guild have gone over from using it ( stupid thing for me now I have to make more agro xD)

[TheShogun]

its a warlock / hunter thing, it is possible to put timers in for priests etc but this will be against Blizzard TOU. autohotkey itself is a borderline thing.

You couldn't do it for a SP. Your sequences are too situational. 1 Resist or moving when you would normally be casting and the whole thing would fall apart.

[Morgoth]

Its against blizzard TOU but priests with hitcaps shouldnt get any resist exept mass despell WTF DID BLIZZARD DO THAT??

[TheShogun]

Its against blizzard TOU but priests with hitcaps shouldnt get any resist exept mass despell WTF DID BLIZZARD DO THAT??

Every class gets Resists even if Hit Capped, even SP's.
O and Mass Dispel can also get resisted. Each Buff has an individual chance to resist the Dispel.
Although I've yet to see of get Resisted by Bubble or Iceblock.

[Morgoth]

of course its part of the randomness in a game but Even tanks with crit immunity can have a 1/1000% chance to be crit and crushed at the same time :<

[Skurm]

IIRC there is always a 1% chance to miss/resist, even if hitcapped.

[Morgoth]

wow system rounds to the highest number but its actually a very low decimal figure

[Pleochism]

No, it's 1%. Spells cap at a maximum of 99% exactly. In Wrath though, they're removing the base 1% miss and allowing you to achieve 100% hit.

[Murdoc]

man
Thank you for this,
I remember reading about it ages ago but, i didnt think it worked after the stopcast change
I was getting 2100 on brut last night and an equally geared loc was getting 2200-2300
I fell so completely helpless as i started bolting from the word go , without tapping , everything i could and i couldnt keep up.
I then had to account it to the fact that he had 200+ less MS than me

I cannot wait to try this <3333

[werries2]

Tried the application last night on my 3:2 macro. Not even close to the 2.5k dps mark though, but atleast it beats the hell out of slamming the one button on my keyboard repeatedly!

Now if somone can just reprogram that script a bit to make the button delay random (say between 50ms and 150ms) it would be awesome!

[werries2]

The application will by no means increase dps directly though. Since like mentioned before casts are queued up now on the client side not on the server as it used to be.

[Morgoth]

you guys are confusing what the cast queues actually did.
What is used to do :
you cast firebolt
the server finds that you cast firebolt
the server sends the client confirmation back that you cast firebolt
you may now begin to cast again.

now what it does at the moment
you cast firebolt,
once it hits the end of the bar on your screen the mob takes firebolt
you may now cast firebolt again

infact in scenario 1 you waited twice the ms to cast between firebolts lets say its a 500 ping you will have 1 sec waisted between casting

with the new one you only waist 1 sec between pings meaning 500 ms is gone.

now go and automate the key and you might notice with lagg info for some kind of reason your ping is actually 200 or more less with a 500 ping last night I got around 250 ping less with the lagg info addon i pasted. So yes this is diffidently better then finger tapping it might be because you lose casting time between lifting and down your finger, in truth you will achieve the same if you put you shadowbolt to mouse 1 button , 1 finger goes up the other goes down thing

as for the timer in between sorry but I wont paste anything against the blizzard TOU!

[werries2]

as for the timer in between sorry but I wont paste anything against the blizzard TOU!

Actualy that timer can be done with an ingame macro ;)
With the initial macro system in wow there were even a /castdelay function!

The auto button presented in the first post uses a 50ms timer for the button, I would like to see that 50ms be a bit more random since key strokes 50ms appart could very well be seen as a breach of the TOU.

[Morgoth]

timer with macros can only be done with chat command unless im wrong
/in 5 /say Hi my name is Bob

in 5 seconds you will say Hi my name is bob, but i dont know how to put a timer between casts;/

[werries2]

Ok after a bit of digging it seems that random function is possible as I wanted it.



random,var1,50,150
Sleep, %var1%
Loop, 5 ; commence loop
{
random,var2,50,150
Sleep, %var2%
}

For the guys that dont mind bending some WoW rules this application can be used for many other wow stuff! It is actualy scary
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic19616.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=random&start=0

[werries2]

timer with macros can only be done with chat command unless im wrong
/in 5 /say Hi my name is Bob

in 5 seconds you will say Hi my name is bob, but i dont know how to put a timer between casts;/

Timer between casts have been removed from the first version of the wow macro program. There should be some castsequence macro's though where you can specify the reset time of the sequence.

[Morgoth]

ah yes but i mean like wait 10 secs before the next spell on the castsequence
/castsequence reset=3 will only reset it after 3 secs for example :S

[Oculate]

IIRC there is always a 1% chance to miss/resist, even if hitcapped.

Yeah. A GM confirmed this while I was on my ele shaman. Extremely pathetic to be honest...Currently Ive got 62 spell hit rating on my shaman. So im a good 2-3% over the cap, yet i seem to get resisted 2-5 times a fight :confused:

[werries2]

ah yes but i mean like wait 10 secs before the next spell on the castsequence
/castsequence reset=3 will only reset it after 3 secs for example :S

Yes I know what you ment. And like I said the command /castdelay have been removed it is not possible in that way anymore.

[Morgoth]

Ok after a bit of digging it seems that random function is possible as I wanted it.



random,var1,50,150
Sleep, %var1%
Loop, 5 ; commence loop
{
random,var2,50,150
Sleep, %var2%
}

For the guys that dont mind bending some WoW rules this application can be used for many other wow stuff! It is actualy scary
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic19616.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=random&start=0

Is this a autohotkey scripts for a time delay? hmmmm.
FYI its not against TOU till you have been proven wrong!

[Sabbz]

wow.

[Murdoc]

This is making me all cross eyed
Please help me out
Will this spam my 'E' key( ihave replaced all the 1s with e)

#HotkeyInterval 2000
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70
$e::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("e", "P")
break
Send e
Sleep, 50
}
return


Edit: ah i just tested it in word and pressed e once and two e's wrote :>

[Sabbz]

Looks like there is a 50ms sleep before it runs the command again, so every 50ms your E key will be "pressed" - that's what i see in that .. even though I do Delphi, so I could be wrong :P

If having a simulated keypress every 50ms is considered as spam .. then yes else no :P

[Morgoth]

This is making me all cross eyed
Please help me out
Will this spam my 'E' key( ihave replaced all the 1s with e)

#HotkeyInterval 2000
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70
$e::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("e", "P")
break
Send e
Sleep, 50
}
return

Edit: ah i just tested it in word and pressed e once and two e's wrote :>


yes it should !

[werries2]

Test it out with a sleep 5000
each 5 seconds you will see a responce.
Since in word etc holding down "e" will give you multiple "e" 's anyway.

Btw that script I posted were not for time delay but for random time delay. It can be reworked for actual time delay as well though.

[Morgoth]

mind reworking it for me? showing me to lets say press s every 1.5 secs? since that's the GCD then maybe a 3 sec delay in between maybe we can let shadow priests benefit from something like this too =)

[werries2]

Will give it a go a bit later, quite busy with work at the moment ;) but follow the link I provided earlier should have something similar in there.

[Morgoth]

yeah I got the starting script from there but I am not a programmer myself, would be nice to get my tanking rotation up if you can set nice timers etc for yourself, autohotkey sux for melee because we need to wait for swing timers between cycles .

[werries2]

Yea I know the feeling. I am also not a programmer, but had some basic programming from school days. And some self tought further skills.

BTW anyone that is planning to use this I sugest go read the following discussion on the topic and form your own opinion :p I think it have potential to be classified as cheating. Even though in the form the original poster have given his script it performs like some keyboard makro's, the other possibilities with this software can get very close to complete automated play. Remember WoW looks what programs are running on your system, not what you do with them. If some people abuse this, your name can be on a list of people that also have this tool. You can get banned without really cheating, but just for having the program running while you play wow...
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic16189.html

[Morgoth]

not entirely people who multibox use this for automated play. Blizzard doesn't support the idea of a 3rd party program doing that for you but they are also not against it.
I am not surprised to be honest they make 5x the money from 1 multiboxer, this program has loads of potential though :>

[Murdoc]

ok wait sory ffound this
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=2916E16666E9264F95F261E0A23 49F80?topicId=4032296717&sid=1

I cannot find a clear answer as to if this is illegal.

[werries2]

ok wait sory ffound this
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=2916E16666E9264F95F261E0A23 49F80?topicId=4032296717&sid=1

Your opinion on that whay you found? can't go to wow sites from work to go form my own opinion :(

[Murdoc]

This is from an MVP from the wow forums



*It* isn't. What you *do* with it may be. As long as one physical key press translates into a single key press in-game, you're fine. As soon as you start doing anything with loops, delays, sequences, etc. you're breaking the rules and risking a ban.

but then this follows


ONE keypress -- ONE in-game action. Anything more than that and you've crossed the line into ban-stick territory.

meaning you have to let go of the bind to not get banned:confused:
It all seems very grey to me :S

After more investigation:

As long as you're not using delays or loops to activate multiple abilities from one keypress you'll be OK.

[werries2]

It indeed does sound grey.
But I think they are clear on one thing though. If the program makes you perform more than one action it is not allowed. Kind of like a macro ingame already :O

[Murdoc]

Heres a blue post


Yeah, that's definitely a violation of our policies.

Basically, anything that circumvents our normal Macro rules, and automates successive key strokes is not okay. Basically, a cast sequence macro is fine, as each function requires a key stroke.

Something like this? Never okay, as a single press creates many keystrokes in succession in addition to several other prohibited functions (pauses in hardware functions, for example).

its a nono for shadowbolt spamming :(

[Oculate]

sigh no 3xLB,1xCL spam for me by holding down 1 button :(

[werries2]

How to police something like this though?
They gona check your keystrokes for a pattern or just use their warden program to check what programs you have running in the background? I may have this keystroke program running for some other app ;)

[Oculate]

How to police something like this though?
They gona check your keystrokes for a pattern or just use their warden program to check what programs you have running in the background? I may have this keystroke program running for some other app ;)

Knowing blizz, they have the power over your account, they wont believe your excuse :( and since you have the suspicious software running (that according to blue is a violation) you'll in the red

[Sabbz]

So basically, if you have latency issues because your country sucks balls in teh field of innertoobz ... and you found a way to just circumvent this latency but it involves doing something they dont like, blizz will ban u for it.

that's kinda ****ed up ... i mean, there's a SP - doing **** knows how much dmg against you cos he has a latency of 1 and could piss on their servers from his bedroom window should he be so inclined and he does like extra damage simply because he's closer to the server and and get more shots in and then there's you - xxxxx km's away, in a poor 3rd world country, trying to keep up with the pace of life in Azeroth, suffering because a bunch of retards don't know what broadband is and give u a 4mb line with 700 MS!!!! SKFHOAEGBOAENIV@$^%(&@$#G ... * cough * .. and u dying cos ... cos .. i think i just lost the focus on my rant ... ****.

anyway, that's a **** one.

[werries2]

So basically, if you have latency issues because your country sucks balls in teh field of innertoobz ... and you found a way to just circumvent this latency but it involves doing something they dont like, blizz will ban u for it.

that's kinda ****ed up ... i mean, there's a SP - doing **** knows how much dmg against you cos he has a latency of 1 and could piss on their servers from his bedroom window should he be so inclined and he does like extra damage simply because he's closer to the server and and get more shots in and then there's you - xxxxx km's away, in a poor 3rd world country, trying to keep up with the pace of life in Azeroth, suffering because a bunch of retards don't know what broadband is and give u a 4mb line with 700 MS!!!! SKFHOAEGBOAENIV@$^%(&@$#G ... * cough * .. and u dying cos ... cos .. i think i just lost the focus on my rant ... ****.

anyway, that's a **** one.

I think we have mentioned before this will not improve your latency ;) It will improve your reaction times to press a button exactly when a previous cast ends etc. But even that is not needed anymore since Spells can be queued up in a castsequence macro.... you just need to press the button repeatedly.

This however helps if you dont want to press the button repeatedly but rather let the button press itself repeatedly. So no need to get your undies all up in a twist :rolleyes:

[Sabbz]

Oh yes, forgot about teh latency thing >_<

Oi, i like my undies twisted mkeh? lol


Ag, i dont pvp enuff yet (only lvl 60) for this effect me .. besides im SP so i generally use Mind Flay neway and recast it @ about 0.3 second remaining so the spelling carries on :)

[Murdoc]

I did come across this gem
Bind 'insert your spam skill here' to mousewheel and flick that mfer like u mean it ;)

[Sabbz]

my home mouse scroller is buggered - sumtimes scroll in and it pans out ... its con****ulated :( need a new one - lol

im happy with how i play, im priest so i dont need that fast reflexes as many of my spells have cast times :/

[Morgoth]

you guys are all on to the wrong end of the stick here, yes Blizzard does not a support software like this and it USED to be against the blizzard TOU but something came around there was a court case from people who got banned using a logitec g12 keyboard, blizzard got ****ed over it and since then well They haven't totally not support this software but they are not against it that's why Gm response are Grey. Furthermore this is a lightweight program and blizzard will have a hard time detecting it.

Well I even asked a Gm about something like this and he told me its not against the blizzard policy but He wants to warn me that they do not like automating keystrokes although the G12 and its features are supportive by blizzard.

[werries2]

you guys are all on to the wrong end of the stick here, yes Blizzard does not a support software like this and it USED to be against the blizzard TOU but something came around there was a court case from people who got banned using a logitec g12 keyboard, blizzard got ****ed over it and since then well They haven't totally not support this software but they are not against it that's why Gm response are Grey. Furthermore this is a lightweight program and blizzard will have a hard time detecting it.

Well I even asked a Gm about something like this and he told me its not against the blizzard policy but He wants to warn me that they do not like automating keystrokes although the G12 and its features are supportive by blizzard.

That is what I was also thinking, but are you willing to take the chance? I know I will :P Or I will buy a new keyboard soon...
The guys with the keyboard had someone to fight their battle in court, do you have someone to fight yours?

[Murdoc]

Morgoth , I believe you are on the wrong end of the stick
From what Ive read(and ill admit the majority are somewhat outdated threads) it is illegal. Not only to automate many commands but even repeat the same one.

Strangly enough its it allowed for one thing, multiboxing. Its allowed to control two copys of wow with one press .(which ive come across afew times) and your OP is in stark contrast to that


Afaik this is not banable by blizzard as long as you release the button and don't use this application for multi boxing. its the same as a logitec keyboard with a automated function.

[Morgoth]

That is what I was also thinking, but are you willing to take the chance? I know I will :P Or I will buy a new keyboard soon...
The guys with the keyboard had someone to fight their battle in court, do you have someone to fight yours?

Lemme explain the ways blizzard banns people
light ban for verbal harassment = 3 hours after that 3 days I got the 3 day one for racism XD

Next ban is for accounting 3rd party software etc, yes you get a permanent ban BUT if you connect blizzard explain your situation then you might get it back ( my friend talked himself out of account trading). However your account is placed under final warning the next offense light or big you take will result in a permanent ban for whatever reason you would like.

your right in my op to that I asked a gm about multi-boxing as well while we had our chat he didn't like the idea however i see on the forums people are using it so I might have to change that :P anyways I wouldn't recommend multiboxing people hate you anyways

[brogiolo]

Lemme explain the ways blizzard banns people
light ban for verbal harassment = 3 hours after that 3 days I got the 3 day one for racism XD

Next ban is for accounting 3rd party software etc, yes you get a permanent ban BUT if you connect blizzard explain your situation then you might get it back ( my friend talked himself out of account trading). However your account is placed under final warning the next offense light or big you take will result in a permanent ban for whatever reason you would like.

your right in my op to that I asked a gm about multi-boxing as well while we had our chat he didn't like the idea however i see on the forums people are using it so I might have to change that :P anyways I wouldn't recommend multiboxing people hate you anyways

My account was hacked, I was STUPID enough to report it and next thing I am banned, ME...banned because my account was hacked!!! They said they needed a month to investigate the hacking. Long story short, after two months of emails and LONG EXPENSIVE phone calls to Blizzard in the UK I finally got to one of the managers who had a modicum of brains in his head. He eventually unlocked my account but warned me that if I do anything wrong again I, as a person, would be personally permanently banned, not just my account!!!

F^&* that, I get hacked, banned and then threatened. OH, and I spend close to R7000 fighting with the Blizzard bullies.

WOW rocks, but Blizzard SUCKS!!!

[Morgoth]

I would write a formal letter to the blizzard account department asking them for compensation for the bills.

[brogiolo]

I would write a formal letter to the blizzard account department asking them for compensation for the bills.

You joke about it, but I did.

I sent them a copy of my phone bill, with the calls to them highlighted and told them they could compensate me by giving my tw accounts life time subscription.

To my surprize they have not answered the mail...LOL, like I expected them to be decent after everything!

But what is one to do, I love WOW

[Morgoth]

get a new account >> nah I know what you mean, It took my friend who traded every trick in the book to get his account back, those Gmz are nasty buggers interrogation ftw:>

[brogiolo]

get a new account >> nah I know what you mean, It took my friend who traded every trick in the book to get his account back, those Gmz are nasty buggers interrogation ftw:>

The problem with a new account is that I lose my toons. Most of them it is just the work I have put into them, but some I really love...
Horde FTW, (but i must admit I love my one Ally)

[Murdoc]

Ok I’m bumping this,
Bruttalus is becoming a bit rough and currently someone is out dpsing me by a ball hair , I have 1-2 better items than him and I have tweaked my gear to a point where I cannot do anymore. Besides try this.
As for that loc achieving 2.7 dps, wow that’s insane. Are you sure that’s sustained or just one of his best/luckiest attempts. I cannot surpass 2.4 with my best attempts
Morgoth are you using Autohotkey to spam lacerate? Without any banning hassel? :p

[werries2]

I have tried this, and if it becomes illegal I will buy myself a keyboard that can do macro's :p
Went up from 1800dps on my hunter to 2k dps on some bosses. About 1300dps avg to 1400dps avg on an entire evening in BT.
But for a hunter this is so easy to use since we are essentialy one button spamming our shot rotation macro anyway. My quartz bar is calculating my latency at 35-75ms now while it was at 300-500ms before. Note this is not real latency, only the time it takes for a spell to be fired.

Don't know if it would be any help for a warlock though...

[Murdoc]

Dude thats an impressive increase
Yes it would halp locs as we spam 1 button to.

[Sabbz]

I'm still subscribed to this thread O.o - i'd totally forgotten bout it haha

[werries2]

I have included a random delay for the button press, so its a bit harder to detect as a cheat. I will give you a copy of my script when I get home.

[Murdoc]

I have included a random delay for the button press, so its a bit harder to detect as a cheat. I will give you a copy of my script when I get home.

VEry very naice :)

[Murdoc]

Ok I shot home for lunch and played around with this
Firstly I installed the brain lag mod and on average I was getting ,say 130-170ms between each cast pushing a button
Then I tried autohotkey with this script

#HotkeyInterval 2000
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70
$e::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("e", "P")
break
Send e
Sleep, 50
}
return

This gave me similar 140 inbetween spell ms ???

I then change #MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70 to #MaxHotkeysPerInterval 10 thinking this was the time between a new ‘push’
And this did wonders, my inbetween ms dropped from 140 to 20!

So whats the difference between
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70 and Sleep, 50 ?

[Morgoth]

ok firstly yes I sometimes use it to spam lacerate but we melee need to wait for swing timers to reset so its not THAT effective, warlocks and hunters in my guild have used it we are a guild that have not gone passed brutalus yet and we manage to kill him 7 secs before enrage timers. Keep in mind normal guilds do it 6 seconds after, our hunters at the moment push around 2.5 k ish warlocks 2.6 mages 2k so its a up for sure, those who refuse to use this never top the meters , keep in mind our Top dps is from South-africa plays on Iburst with a 1000 ms ping and he manages 2.6

[TheShogun]

You do realise that putting in random timers won't make much difference. Warden is the thing thats likely to get you banned using this.
Personally I don't see how it's against the ToS so i'm using it for my Hunter.

[Morgoth]

You do realise that putting in random timers won't make much difference. Warden is the thing thats likely to get you banned using this.
Personally I don't see how it's against the ToS so i'm using it for my Hunter.


They wont bann you they cant really detect this its like blaming you for running delphi on your pc and if someone will get banned multi boxers will be 1st on the list

[TheShogun]

They can detect it. Warden scans processes running on your PC and AutoHotKey is very easily identifiable.

There was a big furor a while ago about Warden being an invasion of privacy, etc.

[Morgoth]

Ok well I have been using a fishbot with autoIt scrips a few times over 3 years now , never been banned its similar scripts to autohotkey

[werries2]

You do realise that putting in random timers won't make much difference. Warden is the thing thats likely to get you banned using this.
Personally I don't see how it's against the ToS so i'm using it for my Hunter.

Indeed they will still detect the program, but they cant read the script file ore know for what I am using it. On the other hand if my PC sends keystrokes to their server every 50ms they may get suspicious as to what I am using the program for.

[werries2]

Ok well I have been using a fishbot with autoIt scrips a few times over 3 years now , never been banned its similar scripts to autohotkey

Mind to PM me some details on this?

[werries2]

This gave me similar 140 inbetween spell ms ???

I then change #MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70 to #MaxHotkeysPerInterval 10 thinking this was the time between a new ‘push’
And this did wonders, my inbetween ms dropped from 140 to 20!

So whats the difference between
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70 and Sleep, 50 ?

It could be something with your PC, the command MaxHotkeysPerInterval limits the time the loop is executed before it reports an internal error. If you reduce this from 70 to 10 there should be less problems and your script runs smoother. I use 200 on mine and see no difference. My randomized sleep is between 50-80ms.

[Pornolio]

Then you have been lucky... I have had my fishbot detected.
Warden is pretty clever. I bought a second account a year back purely to do my fishing. The thing is, they don't always scan for it, when Blizzard have these famous banning runs, they only ban the people they catch with it running at that point in time.

For all you know, you might have been offline when they had the scanning runs. I remember specifically that my main pc disconnected... it came back online and I was fine... Funny stuff happens in the game like they try and force certain situations... eg. disconnects to see if the bot reconnects you etc.
The laptop however disconnected, and when it reconnected it got a instant boot off again with the lovely dreaded banned URL on the splash page.

Hell my process was even running as "Winamp". Dont underestimate warden.
I think your timing was just lucky. I know people that fund their raiding from fishing bots, and they have never been caught... purely because they were not online when Blizz ran the banning spree runs.

I cant risk it on my main account, so I am doing it all the hard way now. One level 70 character down the toilet was enough for me.

[TheShogun]

I don't see how Autokey can be a bannable offense.
It's just simulating spamming a button without having to spam it. It might be safer if you're a G15 user to write a macro or mod to do the same thing.

[Murdoc]

My quartz bar is calculating my latency at 35-75ms now while it was at 300-500ms before. Note this is not real latency, only the time it takes for a spell to be fired.

Huh, my quartz still displays 500-850ms?
This is with sleep at 0!
How is your showing so low?
this is with an average of 350 ms, halp:<

[Morgoth]

use macros and it will fix it
/castsequence spell1 , spell2 etc

[Murdoc]

How does that help?

[Morgoth]

your client responds faster to macros then icons , icons = /click actionbarbutton:1 something like that then it sends, macro triggers the client directly like a script.

[Murdoc]

The thing is when i use your recommened addon Lagg
i get similair ms between spamming my button and using autohotkey
again this is with sleep at 0....
why is this, is lagg not that accurate?

[Morgoth]

it takes time to refresh afaik there are loads of **** involved I for one don't play with any other addons except omen so it might be why.

[werries2]

Script I use. And note I said hunter, I have no idea how warlock latency and shot rotations works


#HotkeyInterval 2000
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 70
$3::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("3", "P")
break
Send 3
random,var2,50,150
Sleep, %var2%
}
return

[werries2]

Huh, my quartz still displays 500-850ms?
This is with sleep at 0!
How is your showing so low?
this is with an average of 350 ms, halp:<

Your Quartz configured correctly? i.e. you use a Primary spell to calculate your global coodown? Like Find herbs or something other that are instant and does not have a cooldown?

[werries2]

I have also set the latency Safety margin to 0 although the recomended value would be 0.2 or 200ms.

[werries2]

I have also set the latency Safety margin to 0 although the recomended value would be 0.2 or 200ms.

[Murdoc]

ok after like 7-10 attempts, i noticed maybe a 200 dps increase

topping at 2.359 ,average say 2100
I need more ://

[Morgoth]

200 dps is what I said >> http://druid.wikispaces.com/Rawr can till you the maximum posible dps with your gear