Official Arsenal FC Supporters Thread

[nivek]

Bendtner in 3 words: Shoot. Miss. Smile.

Bendtner is competing with Chamakh, and RVP..

Vela is competing with Nasri, Walcott, Arshavin, Eboue, Chamkh, RVP......

And nasty fans!



Anyway, can we stop talking about Vela??

I really do wonder if you watch Arsenal at all,
First of all, the last few games Bendtner has played, he's played on the right, which means he too has to compete with all those names you mentioned.
Nasty fans? Ummm, Bendtner is the one who got boo'd off the pitch? What did he do? He scored a hat trick in the following game.. Ironically, Vela has been given alot of leeway by the fans, even though he hasnt had an affect on a game since his Carling Cup match against Sheffield United 3 or 4 years ago

Bendtners attitude is a positive one, he wants to play.. Vela apparently just wants to party?
No one doubts his skill, but something is holding him back, and its not AW.

[Mach III]

I really do wonder if you watch Arsenal at all,
First of all, the last few games Bendtner has played, he's played on the right, which means he too has to compete with all those names you mentioned.
Nasty fans? Ummm, Bendtner is the one who got boo'd off the pitch? What did he do? He scored a hat trick in the following game.. Ironically, Vela has been given alot of leeway by the fans, even though he hasnt had an affect on a game since his Carling Cup match against Sheffield United 3 or 4 years ago

Bendtners attitude is a positive one, he wants to play.. Vela apparently just wants to party?
No one doubts his skill, but something is holding him back, and its not AW.

Thanks :) LONG LIVE VELA!

[MartyMarts]

Wenger's logic of playing Bendtner out wide really baffles me. As a half-decent target man when we're 1-0 down with a few minutes to play and are forced into long ball mode, then he's an option. I've never rated Bendtner. He'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations.

Vela on the other hand clearly has some skill and seems like a player who could turn a defender or two on the edge of the box and fashion a goal out of nothing. However I've only seen him do this once iirc. I've never rated Vela either. As with Bendtner, he'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations looking for a little flair up front.

At the end of the day they're both semi-useful squad players and as long as they're at Arsenal, that's all they will ever be. If this was not the case then we would not have seen Arshavin occasionally playing as a lone CF last season and we would not have signed Chamakh.

[phiber]

Wenger's logic of playing Bendtner out wide really baffles me. As a half-decent target man when we're 1-0 down with a few minutes to play and are forced into long ball mode, then he's an option. I've never rated Bendtner. He'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations.

Vela on the other hand clearly has some skill and seems like a player who could turn a defender or two on the edge of the box and fashion a goal out of nothing. However I've only seen him do this once iirc. I've never rated Vela either. As with Bendtner, he'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations looking for a little flair up front.

At the end of the day they're both semi-useful squad players and as long as they're at Arsenal, that's all they will ever be. If this was not the case then we would not have seen Arshavin occasionally playing as a lone CF last season and we would not have signed Chamakh.

Disagree, Bendtner lead the line versus Barca as we had many injuries, and did well. Arshavin played lone striker when Bendtner was injured. Signed Chamakh as a direct replacement for Eduardo. Can't only have 2 strikers in a Squad, need to cater for injuries.

[Mach III]

Wenger's logic of playing Bendtner out wide really baffles me. As a half-decent target man when we're 1-0 down with a few minutes to play and are forced into long ball mode, then he's an option. I've never rated Bendtner. He'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations.

Vela on the other hand clearly has some skill and seems like a player who could turn a defender or two on the edge of the box and fashion a goal out of nothing. However I've only seen him do this once iirc. I've never rated Vela either. As with Bendtner, he'd do well at an EPL club with mid-table aspirations looking for a little flair up front.

At the end of the day they're both semi-useful squad players and as long as they're at Arsenal, that's all they will ever be. If this was not the case then we would not have seen Arshavin occasionally playing as a lone CF last season and we would not have signed Chamakh.

You know what you talking about :)

[Mach III]

Disagree, Bendtner lead the line versus Barca as we had many injuries, and did well. Arshavin played lone striker when Bendtner was injured. Signed Chamakh as a direct replacement for Eduardo. Can't only have 2 strikers in a Squad, need to cater for injuries.

Lead the line well in our Defeat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He should retire now with such a grand achievement!

[nivek]

Lead the line well in our Defeat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He should retire now with such a grand achievement!

Ummm you do realise he actually scored against Barca?
Its not his fault they put 6 past us

[Mach III]

Ummm you do realise he actually scored against Barca?
Its not his fault they put 6 past us

It doesn't change that he was the worst striker on the field.

[MartyMarts]

Disagree, Bendtner lead the line versus Barca as we had many injuries, and did well. Arshavin played lone striker when Bendtner was injured. Signed Chamakh as a direct replacement for Eduardo. Can't only have 2 strikers in a Squad, need to cater for injuries.

Fair enough but what does that tell you about Vela? Kinda sums it up don't you think? Now with all our front men fit, Bendtner is played out wide and Vela can't even make the bench. I don't think Chamakh is a direct replacement for Eduardo. They're also rather different as players. Wenger has been following Chamakh for a while now but waited until his contract ran down and signed him on a free transfer.

[nivek]

It doesn't change that he was the worst striker on the field.

This is true, had Vela played, Bendtner would've been second worst ;)

[Mach III]

This is true, had Vela played, Bendtner would've been second worst ;)

Had Vela played, Bendtner would've been on the bench!

Ha ha ha :)

[phiber]

08.26: Arsenal's Carlos Vela is close to moving to Valencia after a deal was agreed in London last week, according to reports in Spain.

Hope we are cashing in :)

[Mach III]

Hope we are cashing in :)

Hopefully nothing less than 25m pounds! (kidding)

I think he will turn into a superstar there.

[smokey]

Hope we are cashing in :)

You better hope it's a loan deal. Valencia have a knack for getting the best out of those types of players.

[MartyMarts]

You better hope it's a loan deal. Valencia have a knack for getting the best out of those types of players.

Yeah, I'd prefer to see him on loan for a while.

Fran Merida looked pretty useful in the little I saw of him in Atletico Madrid guise on the weekend. Maybe it's a Spanish thing in general for these ex EPL Spanish players.

[phiber]

.51: Arsene Wenger has insisted there has been no approach for Tottenham's Jonathan Woodgate.

''That was not on our mind at all, completely out of the blue,'' Wenger said. ''I like Woodgate as a player, but we are not after him.''

The Gunners boss added: ''We are nowhere near (signing a central defender). At the moment I am not too confident.''

Maybe we should just hold out for Mertersacker in June.

[nivek]

woodgate would be the worst signing imaginable, worse than getting silvestre back!

[Mach III]

woodgate would be the worst signing imaginable, worse than getting silvestre back!

It would kinda be like a swap for Gallas...

I'll cry myself to sleep tonight if we sign him...

No no, nothing was worse than silvestre, nothing.. :cry:

[phiber]

Campbell might be available as cover as well... Might not be the worst move.

[phiber]

13.52: Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is still keeping his fingers crossed that Carlos Vela will be snapped up by a Premier League club on loan, after it emerged on Tuesday that Valencia are currently favourites to land the Mexican. Wenger said:

"There's nothing done at the moment, no. But that could be sorted out Wednesday or Thursday. Personally I wish (he would go to a Premier League club) because he's a great player and it will be easier for me to follow his progress but he is attracted by Spanish football because it is his home language. But hopefully we can find a good solution for him in England."

Looks like a loan deal.

[phiber]

Cummon ARSENAL!!!!

[phiber]

Lost all attack from the right when Sagna came off and Arsharvin has been no where. Cesc missed quite a good chance, and RvP hit the post, we just need to grab a goal early in the 2nd half and then work for the 2nd.

Think we might need to bring on Nasri on the left and Walcott on the right, would be the end of Arsharvin (who has had another shocker) and Bendtner (who has had a decent game) for the night though.

[smokey]

I think your decisions would have been premature. Bendtner scored a cracker of goal (if he ever decides to start putting poached goals away, he'll be a goal machine).

[phiber]

I think your decisions would have been premature. Bendtner scored a cracker of goal (if he ever decides to start putting poached goals away, he'll be a goal machine).

He did switch to the left to get that goal though, Arsharvin was still no where at all.

3 - 0, 3 - 1 on aggregate... Think Sczhezny has made a good case for the CC final, he hasn't been pulling of amazing saves but then he hasn't been dropping balls to players either.

[Mach III]

He did switch to the left to get that goal though, Arsharvin was still no where at all.

3 - 0, 3 - 1 on aggregate... Think Sczhezny has made a good case for the CC final, he hasn't been pulling of amazing saves but then he hasn't been dropping balls to players either.

Did Cesc set up himself for his goal?


-Very good goal from the man I hate most in life!!! Well Done Bendtner!

[RexxGrim]

Good all round performance, once we made it 1-1 on aggregate you just new more would come. I don't think Arshavin had such a bad game, compared to some other performances recently. He might not have contributed much, but at least he was not a liability. Defense looked solid, but you just can't help to get worried everytime one of them stays down after collision.

I think Bendtner had one of his better games so far this season. Some good passes into the box, cross to RVP which he headed onto the post and a great goal.

[nivek]

Nik B :D
Showing why he is an integral part of this team

[nivek]

Did Cesc set up himself for his goal?


-Very good goal from the man I hate most in life!!! Well Done Bendtner!

For once I agree with you, thought Arshavin had a decent game, did well to setup Cescs goal..


Pitty Blackpool couldnt hold on :(

[phiber]

For once I agree with you, thought Arshavin had a decent game, did well to setup Cescs goal..


Pitty Blackpool couldnt hold on :(

Arsharvin gave the ball away so many times i lost count. Three times in our own half!!! Just not good enough. We have better players, dare I say it, Vela could probably do a better job at the moment! ;)

I do agree Arsharvin is class and will need game time to get back into form, but he is taking long. I think Wenger will start him against Huddersfield again, but once Rosicky is fit he is going to fall down the order till he can get his form back.

[Mach III]

For once I agree with you, thought Arshavin had a decent game, did well to setup Cescs goal..


Pitty Blackpool couldnt hold on :(

It's about time!

I think Arshavin is going to start playing amazing again.. When they ask what's changed, he will say nonchalantly, that he had cancer.

When Arsenal win the Carling Cup, I am going to hire a party bus!

[Mach III]

Arsharvin gave the ball away so many times i lost count. Three times in our own half!!! Just not good enough. We have better players, dare I say it, Vela could probably do a better job at the moment! ;)

I do agree Arsharvin is class and will need game time to get back into form, but he is taking long. I think Wenger will start him against Huddersfield again, but once Rosicky is fit he is going to fall down the order till he can get his form back.

Of course he could ;)

[nivek]

Arsharvin gave the ball away so many times i lost count. Three times in our own half!!! Just not good enough. We have better players, dare I say it, Vela could probably do a better job at the moment! ;)

I do agree Arsharvin is class and will need game time to get back into form, but he is taking long. I think Wenger will start him against Huddersfield again, but once Rosicky is fit he is going to fall down the order till he can get his form back.

Is Rosicky injured? Was wondering where he's been..
Arsh did well yesterday, he's slowly finding his feet, and he's trying hard, at least this dip in form is occurring while other players are doing well, we will need Arsh to step up over the coming months, hopefully he hits form just before the Barca game

[RexxGrim]

Is Rosicky injured? Was wondering where he's been..
Arsh did well yesterday, he's slowly finding his feet, and he's trying hard, at least this dip in form is occurring while other players are doing well, we will need Arsh to step up over the coming months, hopefully he hits form just before the Barca game

Ro-sicky had a bit of flu iirc.

[nivek]

Oh how immense was Wilshere last night, too good

[MartyMarts]

Pitty Blackpool couldnt hold on :(

Yeah, I was so thrilled when I saw Blackpool were 2-0 up - thought it was going be good evening as Arsenal fan. When I switched over to see the final score was 2-3 I was like WTF?!?!


Oh how immense was Wilshere last night, too good

True. Hard to believe he just turned 19.

[Mach III]

For once I agree with you, thought Arshavin had a decent game, did well to setup Cescs goal..


Pitty Blackpool couldnt hold on :(

OMF!! I had to watch the Arsenal match on DSL last night, maintaining the connection was my main worry.. I didn't see the score of Blackpool Man u now..

That is the biggest load of BS...

:mad:

[phiber]

Oh how immense was Wilshere last night, too good

Very good, and can only get better!!

[Randhir]

OMF!! I had to watch the Arsenal match on DSL last night, maintaining the connection was my main worry.. I didn't see the score of Blackpool Man u now..

That is the biggest load of BS...

:mad:

Were you on Mweb? The connection was absolute **** last night.

[Mach III]

Were you on Mweb? The connection was absolute **** last night.

I don't know what line I was on, at a girlfriends house.. It was stable; buffering every 90 or so seconds.. And then from about the 60th minute it was buffering every 4-5 seconds.. And myBB wouldn't load last night..

And Wilshere would've been the star in the papers today, had Fabros finished off his chip. It's awesome how he has become a key player in the team this season!

I think the reason why Arsenal are performing now is due to Fabros playing of this world (for the first time this season) again!

If Fabros improves more on this level, and either Arshavin or Walcott rise to Nasri's form. And finally if Wenger locks RVP in a padded room...

We might have a chance against Barca!

[Tarantula]

Oh how immense was Wilshere last night, too good

Super immense. I think it also needs to be said that Bendtner also had a terrific game last night. His goal was class and his work rate was exceptional. He was constantly tracking back to assist Eboue in defence. For a player who is a striker by trade, it was excellent to see.

Arshavin's form is still not there, but it looked like he put in quite an effort last night. Can't fault him on that. We just can't afford to have an off form lazy Arshavin.

[nivek]

Super immense. I think it also needs to be said that Bendtner also had a terrific game last night. His goal was class and his work rate was exceptional. He was constantly tracking back to assist Eboue in defence. For a player who is a striker by trade, it was excellent to see.

Arshavin's form is still not there, but it looked like he put in quite an effort last night. Can't fault him on that. We just can't afford to have an off form lazy Arshavin.

Yea, at one stage Nik B was playing right back, between the time Sagna went off and Eboue came on

[phiber]

Yea, at one stage Nik B was playing right back, between the time Sagna went off and Eboue came on

You can see the hunger to get a first team spot... He is so keen to play he will play anywhere, as long as he is on the field!

His goal was great, with the way he cuts in off the left (reminded me of Henry). I would suggest Wenger play him upfront against Huddersfield. Think Djourou is in desperate need of a break, he's been taking some hard knocks.

[MartyMarts]

You can see the hunger to get a first team spot... He is so keen to play he will play anywhere, as long as he is on the field!

His goal was great, with the way he cuts in off the left (reminded me of Henry). I would suggest Wenger play him upfront against Huddersfield. Think Djourou is in desperate need of a break, he's been taking some hard knocks.

Amazing what a spell on the sidelines behind some competition can do for a player's on-field efforts.

[Mach III]

You can see the hunger to get a first team spot... He is so keen to play he will play anywhere, as long as he is on the field!

His goal was great, with the way he cuts in off the left (reminded me of Henry). I would suggest Wenger play him upfront against Huddersfield. Think Djourou is in desperate need of a break, he's been taking some hard knocks.

Reminds me of the first comment here:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/305481-Sunil-Joshi-the-new-Neotel-CEO

Every game he plays he sits up front waiting for the ball..

If he ran for maybe 5 matches like he did, then you could make that statement!

Because from that we can conclude that because 4shavin scored 4 in 4 at Liverpool. He is the greatest striker on the planet.

So, he played against Ipswich..

I score Henry type goals all the time at local soccer. Scoring a Henry goal against Ferdinand, or Vidic, or Terry, or Puyol is another story.

[RexxGrim]

Reminds me of the first comment here:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/305481-Sunil-Joshi-the-new-Neotel-CEO

Every game he plays he sits up front waiting for the ball..

If he ran for maybe 5 matches like he did, then you could make that statement!

Because from that we can conclude that because 4shavin scored 4 in 4 at Liverpool. He is the greatest striker on the planet.

So, he played against Ipswich..

I score Henry type goals all the time at local soccer. Scoring a Henry goal against Ferdinand, or Vidic, or Terry, or Puyol is another story.

The part in bold I kind of agree with. He needs to string a few together, but irrespective of the opposition it was the second leg of cup semi final that we were trailing by 1. The only way to go on a run of good performances is by starting with the first 1.

As for the rest of your post, I've got no clue what you are on about.

PS Nick has scored against Barca so you can take Puyol of your list, Terry we'll hopefully not see again this season and Vidic and Ferdinand will be injured when we face United later this season. (My voodoo is strong, although not so accurate. I keep on hitting Rafael. Apologies.)

[Mach III]

The part in bold I kind of agree with. He needs to string a few together, but irrespective of the opposition it was the second leg of cup semi final that we were trailing by 1. The only way to go on a run of good performances is by starting with the first 1.

As for the rest of your post, I've got no clue what you are on about.

PS Nick has scored against Barca so you can take Puyol of your list, Terry we'll hopefully not see again this season and Vidic and Ferdinand will be injured when we face United later this season. (My voodoo is strong, although not so accurate. I keep on hitting Rafael. Apologies.)

Sorry, I colour coded it now.
But my bottom line is do not even make a correlation between Bendtner performing in an Ipswich game, with the greatest footballer that ever lived!!!! (TH14)

Hence: He did not score a 'Henry' goal against Barca :)

Hahahahaha

[smokey]

Just one thing. Thierry Henry was not the greatest footballer who ever lived.

[Mach III]

Just one thing. Thierry Henry was not the greatest footballer who ever lived.

:erm:

Let me guess; Were Arsenal not the 'invincibles' either! Ha ha ha

Is the Eiffel Tower in Cameroon too?

And Arsene Wenger Peruvian?

[smokey]

Zidane was a better footballer than Henry.

[Mach III]

You got me there.. I love my Zizou!!

Can't they both be better than eachother... :confused:

[smokey]

You got me there.. I love my Zizou!!

Can't they both be better than eachother... :confused:

No.

Henry is neither the greatest goalscorer of all time, nor is he the greatest "skill" player of all time. However, footballers are usually graded by their impact on the game. Zizou wasn't available (albeit for the first two games in 2002) - France failed. He made himself available in 2006 (after urging by Rayond Domenech), France got to the Final.

Though to be brutally honest, he wouldn't have been the Zizou we all know if it hadn't been for Makalele.

[nivek]

Henry was the best striker the EPL has had tho

[Mach III]

No.

Henry is neither the greatest goalscorer of all time, nor is he the greatest "skill" player of all time. However, footballers are usually graded by their impact on the game. Zizou wasn't available (albeit for the first two games in 2002) - France failed. He made himself available in 2006 (after urging by Rayond Domenech), France got to the Final.

Though to be brutally honest, he wouldn't have been the Zizou we all know if it hadn't been for Makalele.

I know all that.. I love Zidane..

But, Henry was cut from the same cloth

[smokey]

Henry was the best striker the EPL has had tho

EPL in particular or the English top flight in general? If EPL, then yeah, fully agree. Otherwise, there are other forwards who will argue that case if English top flight before the EPL is taken into account...

[nivek]

EPL in particular or the English top flight in general? If EPL, then yeah, fully agree. Otherwise, there are other forwards who will argue that case if English top flight before the EPL is taken into account...

Yeah top flight can be debated..

Interesting stat:
Modric + Bale + VDV assists in all competitions = 11..
Arshavin = 14

[Mach III]

Yeah top flight can be debated..

Interesting stat:
Modric + Bale + VDV assists in all competitions = 11..
Arshavin = 14

Believe it ;)

[mmmig]

Looks like Arshavin is a unsung hero this season.

[MartyMarts]

Jeez... 14 assists while in lazy mode. Imagine what he could be capable of in full throttle mode.

[smokey]

Jeez... 14 assists while in lazy mode. Imagine what he could be capable of in full throttle mode.

He wasn't in lazy mode the entire season, only recently iirc. The beginning he was quite good.

[Mach III]

It's not lazy mode, it's weird, it's like he's in 're-thinking his life' mode.

He's just playing cause it's his job to play, but with no passion -14 assists is very good!

I don't think he is content playing for Arsenal, he probably imagined it to be better than it is living and playing for a top club...

I rate we win the Carling Cup, and he wags his tail again!

[MartyMarts]

I was using the term 'lazy' rather loosely.
iirc, he actually wanted to join Barca when he was considered hot property after Euro '08. Maybe he wishes he had.
He's gonna be 30 soon and as we all know, turning 30 is kinda a watershed in an outfield footballer's career. Maybe that's the issue.

[nivek]

He said himself he lost interest in football when Russia were knocked out of the WC qualifiers

[Mach III]

He said himself he lost interest in football when Russia were knocked out of the WC qualifiers

I didn't know that..

We should make a 'We Love Andrei Arshavin March'

:(

[Mach III]

LOL:


Fellow goalscorer Bendtner added: "It's been a little while since I last scored but I made a good run in behind and it was a good finish.

Thanks Bendtner for clarifying, we thought our eyes were deceiving to us...

[Tarantula]

Thanks Bendtner for clarifying, we thought our eyes were deceiving to us...

If bendtner is concerned about the last goal he scored, then what must poor Vela be thinking? Wondering what the goals actually look like? :P

[RexxGrim]

So Birmingham in the Final then. I would have preferred West Ham to be honest, just thinking we would come out of the game with less bruises. Although seeing Avram in the dugout has me going to therapy twice a week now. That must be one of the saddest things I've seen. I just wish someone will run up to the man and give him a hug.

[Mach III]

If bendtner is concerned about the last goal he scored, then what must poor Vela be thinking? Wondering what the goals actually look like? :P

Bendtner wasn't thinking, he was saying!

No, lol. He's describing how he scored, and how good the goal was (isn't that what the commentator, or radio presenter does?).

[Tarantula]

Bendtner wasn't thinking, he was saying!

No, lol. He's describing how he scored, and how good the goal was (isn't that what the commentator, or radio presenter does?).

Yeah, what a lame-o. I mean who describes their goals after a game? Oh wait, EVERYONE does.

Le sigh.

[Mach III]

So Birmingham in the Final then. I would have preferred West Ham to be honest, just thinking we would come out of the game with less bruises. Although seeing Avram in the dugout has me going to therapy twice a week now. That must be one of the saddest things I've seen. I just wish someone will run up to the man and give him a hug.

I think the Cheque he will be getting will make up for the hug!! Lol..
Money can buy happiness!

Sucks we get Birmingham, atleast we not playing against Martin Taylor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXj6RENnQlM&feature=related (Birmingham Training Drill)

[Tarantula]

So Birmingham in the Final then. I would have preferred West Ham to be honest, just thinking we would come out of the game with less bruises. Although seeing Avram in the dugout has me going to therapy twice a week now. That must be one of the saddest things I've seen. I just wish someone will run up to the man and give him a hug.

Meh, I am not too concerned about Birmingham. Remember what West Ham did to United? Birmingham are decent at home, but at Wembley I can't see them beating us. Dear I say trophy NUMBER 1 for 2011 coming at the end of Feb?

[Randhir]

I think the Cheque he will be getting will make up for the hug!! Lol..
Money can buy happiness!

If I recall correctly, he uses the cheques to go get 'hugs' in massage parlours :D

[Tarantula]

"I closed my eyes and something hit me on the head" - Ji Sung Park (Arsenal vs United Dec 2010)

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/images/tile/2010/1213/1224285486573_1.jpg

[Mach III]

If I recall correctly, he uses the cheques to go get 'hugs' in massage parlours :D

True??

Lool!

[Randhir]

"I closed my eyes and something hit me on the head" - Ji Sung Park (Arsenal vs United Dec 2010)

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/images/tile/2010/1213/1224285486573_1.jpg

LOL!!! Thats' racist man, Park is Oriental, it just LOOKS like his eyes are closed :D


True??

Lool!

Yup, it was in the papers. Apparently his wife know he has a stressful job, so she doesn't mind...

[Mach III]

"I closed my eyes and something hit me on the head" - Ji Sung Park (Arsenal vs United Dec 2010)

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/images/tile/2010/1213/1224285486573_1.jpg

He is admitting it was luck!

Bendtner was saying his goal was ''Good''!

Translation:

Park: I got lucky.. -_-

Bendtner: I am amazing!!

[Tarantula]

LOL!!! Thats' racist man, Park is Oriental, it just LOOKS like his eyes are closed :D

LOL!


Yup, it was in the papers. Apparently his wife know he has a stressful job, so she doesn't mind...

... and the saddest thing of all is back in the change rooms of Stamford Bridge he didn't even have to pay for "hugs".

[RexxGrim]

He is admitting it was luck!

Bendtner was saying his goal was ''Good''!

Translation:

Park: I got lucky.. -_-

Bendtner: I am amazing!!

Mate give the Bendtner bashing a rest, you are under estimating our intelligence. We get it, you don't like him.

[Randhir]

... and the saddest thing of all is back in the change rooms of Stamford Bridge he didn't even have to pay for "hugs".

Ooooohhh! Oh no you DIDN"T!

Lol.

[smokey]

Ooooohhh! Oh no you DIDN"T!

Lol.

Bru, Abramovich provides for everything.

[Randhir]

Bru, Terry provides for everything.



Fixed.

:D

[smokey]

Fixed.

:D

Bru, imagine being part of his entourage...

EDIT: Actually, they could do an Entourage UK based on Terry come to think of it...

[Tarantula]

Bru, imagine being part of his entourage...

EDIT: Actually, they could do an Entourage UK based on Terry come to think of it...

Yeah, I can imagine it being just like the US Entourage, only way more fabulous.
:erm:

[Randhir]

Yeah, I can imagine it being just like the US Entourage, only way more fabulous.
:erm:

Except you wouldn't meet any other Chelsea players, they'd all be at home guarding their wives...

[Mach III]

Mate give the Bendtner bashing a rest, you are under estimating our intelligence. We get it, you don't like him.

Sorry

[smokey]

Except you wouldn't meet any other Chelsea players, they'd all be at home guarding their wives...

Or with JT to make sure that HE doesn't go anywhere near their wives.

[RexxGrim]

So were not signing anyone in this window. Arsenal.com says Squil and Diaby back for this weekend. They'll be in the squad, not sure if they will start though.

3 Days to go until the magic bubble of protection against injuries for Arsenal expires aka the transfer window.

[phiber]

"At the moment, Wojciech is number one," he said. "He has done nothing wrong for me to take him out, but I can rotate the goalkeepers. In the cups I sometimes play different goalkeepers as well.

-- Wenger talking bout his goal keepers!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/872211/arsene-wenger-happy-manuel-almunia-remains-at-arsenal?cc=3888

Happy to see Wojciech is going to get a chance to make that spot his, who knows he might be better than Hart :)



Carlos Vela has joined West Bromwich Albion on loan until May 2011.

The young forward has scored 11 goals in his 62 appearances for the Gunners in his two and a half seasons in England.

Good move, hopefully he can get a few premier league games under his belt.


Abou Diaby (calf), Sebastian Squillaci (hamstring) and Tomas Rosicky (sickness) will also return against Huddersfield as Arsène Wenger rings the changes but Bacary Sagna will not be risked after suffering a head injury against Ipswich in midweek.

“Definitely back in the squad is Diaby, Squillaci, Almunia and certainly Rosicky,” confirmed Wenger at his pre-match press conference.

“Sagna will definitely not be used because of his head injury.

“I will rotate [the squad], that is what I do now in every single game.”

I think Squillaci and Rosicky will start but i dont think he will play Almunia, make him sit on the bench i think. He might start Diaby, but aftter last time i think he will give him 20-30 mins at the end of the game.

[DarkDenim]

I really dislike that number 52 jersey wearing skunk! Denilson is mediocre but at least he doesn't annoy me.

Fabregas saves the day!

[phiber]

I really dislike that number 52 jersey wearing skunk! Denilson is mediocre but at least he doesn't annoy me.

Fabregas saves the day!

Bendtner had a really good game, dunno what you are on about dude.... Fabregas did save the day, but Bendtner got one and won the Penalty.

[nivek]

Bendtner had a really good game, dunno what you are on about dude.... Fabregas did save the day, but Bendtner got one and won the Penalty.

Bendtner was brilliant in this game, unfortunately some people just have predefined opinions on players and don't judge fairly

[Randhir]

Bendtner was brilliant in this game, unfortunately some people just have predefined opinions on players and don't judge fairly

He was better than he has been, but a couple of missed opportunities could've cost Arsenal the game.

[nivek]

He was better than he has been, but a couple of missed opportunities could've cost Arsenal the game.

True, but besides for Henry and van nistelrooy there arent too many strikers that put away 99% of their opportunities!
Btw, I think his all round play was superb today, arshavin also

[Randhir]

arshavin also

I saw an Arshavin lookalike make a terrific tackle in the Arsenal box. Couldn't have actually been Arshavin could it?

:p

[RexxGrim]

Couldn't watch the game, how is Nasri thats all I want to know?

[phiber]

I saw an Arshavin lookalike make a terrific tackle in the Arsenal box. Couldn't have actually been Arshavin could it?

:p

Hahaha, was good today but missing that edge still. Much better than he has been recently. Maybe he will find it in time for Liverpool :P (hopefully sooner, say Barca :D)


Samir Nasri is expected to be out for three weeks after suffering a hamstring injury on Sunday. ----> i.e. he will miss the Barca game :(

[smokey]

Hahaha, was good today but missing that edge still. Much better than he has been recently. Maybe he will find it in time for Liverpool :P (hopefully sooner, say Barca :D)


Samir Nasri is expected to be out for three weeks after suffering a hamstring injury on Sunday. ----> i.e. he will miss the Barca game :(

Home or away leg?

[RexxGrim]

If Nasri is out, its time for the Russian to stand up. Seems het getting there slowly.

[phiber]

Home or away leg?

First game, so the home leg.

[nivek]

Fabregas: "10 Huddersfield players asked me for my shirt- I only have 2. I'm sorry the other 8 didn't get 1 but I didn't have more"
haha

[RexxGrim]

As it stands we only have 2 fit and eligible defenders. Wenger is not signing anyone. Am I the only one that is a bit worried.

[nivek]

As it stands we only have 2 fit and eligible defenders. Wenger is not signing anyone. Am I the only one that is a bit worried.

SQ is only suspended for 1 game

[RexxGrim]

SQ is only suspended for 1 game

I know, but for Everton we've got only 2 centre backs to pick. This is hardly a healthy situation for a team that is competing in 4 competitions. What if it was a 3 match ban. Would he have scrambled to sign someone today?

[nivek]

I know, but for Everton we've got only 2 centre backs to pick. This is hardly a healthy situation for a team that is competing in 4 competitions. What if it was a 3 match ban. Would he have scrambled to sign someone today?

Song can play back there, not ideal but if the situation demands it, also Verm 'should' be back in 2-3 weeks?

[DarkDenim]

Are you guys kidding me? One good game and Bendtner gets laudatory remarks? He might have scored a goal and won a penalty but he is not Arsenal material!

[DarkDenim]

Song can play back there, not ideal but if the situation demands it, also Verm 'should' be back in 2-3 weeks?

2-3 weeks?! I need good news only please :D

Eish, Nasri won't make the Barca encounter :(

[nivek]

I know we need a defender but I'm glad we not being drawn into the hysteria

[DarkDenim]

A senior source at Arsenal says Newcastle United have been in touch, this evening, regarding availability of striker Nicklas Bendtner...


Wenger please let him go!

[nivek]

Are you guys kidding me? One good game and Bendtner gets laudatory remarks? He might have scored a goal and won a penalty but he is not Arsenal material!

Actually hes had plenty good games, how often do you watch?

[Alan]

Replace Carroll for Bendtner and still make 20mill.

[nivek]

Btw, Bendtner has done alot more than Chamakh this month

I'm still convinced the Bendtner haters around here dont actually watch the games regularly

[DarkDenim]

Btw, Bendtner has done alot more than Chamakh this month

I'm still convinced the Bendtner haters around here dont actually watch the games regularly

He's part of the 2nd team anyway. I hope Wenger sells him. Chamakh is not great either.

[nivek]

He's part of the 2nd team anyway. I hope Wenger sells him.

Good thing Wenger has more sense then ;)

[MartyMarts]

A little out there but how's about a swop loan deal - Bendtner for NUFC's Steven Taylor or Fabricio Coloccini ?? Another backup CB would be most welcome. Sol Campbell anyone?

[DarkDenim]

Good thing Wenger has more sense then ;)

Yup, hence #52 is in the second team and will stay there because Wenger knows better hahaha

The one thing I dislike most about #52 is his poor touch. Arsenal deserve high caliber players, not average or below average Bendtners!

[DarkDenim]

A little out there but how's about a swop loan deal - Bendtner for NUFC's Steven Taylor or Fabricio Coloccini ?? Another backup CB would be most welcome. Sol Campbell anyone?

Anything to get rid of that skunk :D

[RexxGrim]

Anything to get rid of that skunk :D

As I told Mach III. We get it, you guys dont like Bendtner, no need to say it over and over.

[RexxGrim]

BREAKING TRANSFER NEWS, I am moving from my sofa to my bed. Jack Wilshere on twitter. Lol, gonna do the same thing.

[Mach III]

I think a swap for Bendtner + 5m for Steven Taylor would be a great deal.

The best that I have seen Bendtner play was his champions league debut, (I think it was with Aaron Ramsey) and they both scored good goals.

My brother raved about Bendtner for months.

I think Bendtner played well until Adebuywhore fought with him.

Maybe a loan move will get the best out of him.

[SinghDude]

I think a swap for Bendtner + 5m for Steven Taylor would be a great deal.

The best that I have seen Bendtner play was his champions league debut, (I think it was with Aaron Ramsey) and they both scored good goals.

My brother raved about Bendtner for months.

I think Bendtner played well until Adebuywhore fought with him.

Maybe a loan move will get the best out of him.


Adewhore fights alot.Wonder if he will make Ronaldo his B!tch at Madrid.

[Mach III]

Adewhore fights alot.Wonder if he will make Ronaldo his B!tch at Madrid.

No, Ronaldo will leave once Adebuywhore relegates them!

[nivek]

I think a swap for Bendtner + 5m for Steven Taylor would be a great deal.

The best that I have seen Bendtner play was his champions league debut, (I think it was with Aaron Ramsey) and they both scored good goals.

My brother raved about Bendtner for months.

I think Bendtner played well until Adebuywhore fought with him.

Maybe a loan move will get the best out of him.

Can you explain why you would like a player who is currently getting goals and assists loaned out?
You guys make no sense.

Bendtner - 10 starts, 7 as a sub - 6 goals
Chamakh - 24 starts, 7 as a sub - 10 goals

Now, I'm hoping you guys can do the math yourselves

[RexxGrim]

Can you explain why you would like a player who is currently getting goals and assists loaned out?
You guys make no sense.

Bendtner - 10 starts, 7 as a sub - 6 goals
Chamakh - 24 starts, 7 as a sub - 10 goals

Now, I'm hoping you guys can do the math yourselves

+1

[Mach III]

Just chill, there is more important news.. Liverpool have thrown away their premier league mid table ambitions, and sold Fernando Torres!

[MartyMarts]

Can you explain why you would like a player who is currently getting goals and assists loaned out?
You guys make no sense.

Bendtner - 10 starts, 7 as a sub - 6 goals
Chamakh - 24 starts, 7 as a sub - 10 goals

Now, I'm hoping you guys can do the math yourselves

I mentioned the loan swop move for Bendtner before I saw that Vela went on loan to West Brom (which is a good thing imo). We pretty much need (and still need) a decent CB as backup until TV is match fit, especially with the glut of big games on our doorstep.

Bendtner has been bitching and moaning about his lack of first team action so if he were to be loaned out to NUFC then he would probably get decent game time as a direct replacement for Carroll. Then all the Bendtner haters (me included) could see if he was really the player he insists he. With v.Persie fit, Bendtner is always going to be a sub or best case for him, used out wide.

Personally I'd rather see Chamakh starting before Bendtner but that's just my opinion (which usually is rather different to Messrs Wenger).

[RexxGrim]

I mentioned the loan swop move for Bendtner before I saw that Vela went on loan to West Brom (which is a good thing imo). We pretty much need (and still need) a decent CB as backup until TV is match fit, especially with the glut of big games on our doorstep.

Bendtner has been bitching and moaning about his lack of first team action so if he were to be loaned out to NUFC then he would probably get decent game time as a direct replacement for Carroll. Then all the Bendtner haters (me included) could see if he was really the player he insists he. With v.Persie fit, Bendtner is always going to be a sub or best case for him, used out wide.

Personally I'd rather see Chamakh starting before Bendtner but that's just my opinion (which usually is rather different to Messrs Wenger).

Not going to start a Chamakh vs Bendtner debate, but imo we need them both. Although I'd rather see Bendtner shoot and miss than Chamakh not shoot at all.

They are back up for RVP who is about 5 games away from his season average appearences. Bendtner plays out wide as well and Nasri has just been injured. If you look at options in our front three we've got:

RVP
Chamakh
Arshvin
TW
Bendtner

5 players covering 3 positions. Don't think we can afford sending anyone away.

[smokey]

Not going to start a Chamakh vs Bendtner debate, but imo we need them both. Although I'd rather see Bendtner shoot and miss than Chamakh not shoot at all.

They are back up for RVP who is about 5 games away from his season average appearences. Bendtner plays out wide as well and Nasri has just been injured. If you look at options in our front three we've got:

RVP
Chamakh
Arshvin
TW
Bendtner

5 players covering 3 positions. Don't think we can afford sending anyone away.

+1

[MartyMarts]

Fair enough - 5 players, 3 positions = can't afford to lose anyone.
Arsenal (well, Wenger I should say) always seem to plan ahead with barely just enough players to choose from so we should be theoretically ok.

[RexxGrim]

Fair enough - 5 players, 3 positions = can't afford to lose anyone.
Arsenal (well, Wenger I should say) always seem to plan ahead with barely just enough players to choose from so we should be theoretically ok.

In attack yes, in defense I think he cutting it a bit close. Time will tell.

[phiber]

Not going to start a Chamakh vs Bendtner debate, but imo we need them both. Although I'd rather see Bendtner shoot and miss than Chamakh not shoot at all.

They are back up for RVP who is about 5 games away from his season average appearences. Bendtner plays out wide as well and Nasri has just been injured. If you look at options in our front three we've got:

RVP
Chamakh
Arshvin
TW
Bendtner

5 players covering 3 positions. Don't think we can afford sending anyone away.

Would throw Rosicky up there as well as we can play him wide as an attacker.

[RexxGrim]

Would throw Rosicky up there as well as we can play him wide as an attacker.

Thanks, I knew I forgot someone. He needs to put one in the net soon, if only for his own sanity though.

[RexxGrim]

Vela might start for WBA against Wigan tonight. Best bit of transfer business done in the whole transfer window. :D All jokes aside I will defenitely be looking out for him. WBA is defenitately part of the relegation battle so they will be giving everything till the end of the season. Great chance for him to catch the managers eye. Would love to see him bang in a few and help WBA stay up.

I don't know enough about WBA team to know if will be starting regularly though.

[mmmig]

Not going to start a Chamakh vs Bendtner debate, but imo we need them both. Although I'd rather see Bendtner shoot and miss than Chamakh not shoot at all.

They are back up for RVP who is about 5 games away from his season average appearences. Bendtner plays out wide as well and Nasri has just been injured. If you look at options in our front three we've got:

RVP
Chamakh
Arshvin
TW
Bendtner

5 players covering 3 positions. Don't think we can afford sending anyone away.
you can add Nasri to that list, It's looking more and more likely that Arshavin might find his way out next season.

[RexxGrim]

you can add Nasri to that list, It's looking more and more likely that Arshavin might find his way out next season.

Nasri is injured.

[SinghDude]

Vela might start for WBA against Wigan tonight. Best bit of transfer business done in the whole transfer window. :D All jokes aside I will defenitely be looking out for him. WBA is defenitately part of the relegation battle so they will be giving everything till the end of the season. Great chance for him to catch the managers eye. Would love to see him bang in a few and help WBA stay up.

I don't know enough about WBA team to know if will be starting regularly though.

Wenger might be using Vela to throw a spanner in the works against the other clubs....

Aslong as he bangs in the goals....

[nivek]

I might even put him in my fantasy team ;)

[Randhir]

I might even put him in my fantasy team ;)

Vela isn't in your fantasy team?!?!?! :wtf:

[smokey]

Vela isn't in your fantasy team?!?!?! :wtf:

+1

:eek:

[RexxGrim]

I post to much bull on here, so when I try to be serious people think I am taking the piss. Jokes aside, I've got a feeling Vela is going to have a cracker at WBA. Its just a feeling and I have no facts to back it up.

[Mach III]

+1

:eek:

Agree, he's captain of mine.

[DarkDenim]

Okay no more Bendtner comments (until he annoys me). Squad for tonight's match...

Szczesny, Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna, Wilshere, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin, Almunia, Gibbs, Eboue, Rosicky, Bendtner, Chamakh, Diaby.

Not bad at all :)

[mmmig]

Okay no more Bendtner comments (until he annoys me). Squad for tonight's match...

Szczesny, Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna, Wilshere, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin, Almunia, Gibbs, Eboue, Rosicky, Bendtner, Chamakh, Diaby.

Not bad at all :)
Not to keen to Almunia start, this could very well be a hard game

[DarkDenim]

Me neither but I think it's the best Wenger can do for this match. Nasri is out while Squillaci is suspended so it probably won't be an easy one.

[phiber]

Okay no more Bendtner comments (until he annoys me). Squad for tonight's match...

Szczesny, Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna, Wilshere, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin, Almunia, Gibbs, Eboue, Rosicky, Bendtner, Chamakh, Diaby.

Not bad at all :)

I would start:

Szczesny, Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna, Wilshere, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin.

Maybe play Bendtner on the right, but we haven't seen Walcott for 2 games now, so might be worth starting him now.

[DarkDenim]

I would start:

Szczesny, Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna, Wilshere, Song, Fabregas, Walcott, van Persie, Arshavin.

Maybe play Bendtner on the right, but we haven't seen Walcott for 2 games now, so might be worth starting him now.

Do you want to die sir? :D

Walcott will likely start :)

[phiber]

Bendtner's been putting them into the back of the net, and he had a few good games now.

[RexxGrim]

Going to bed, I've seen this game already.

[DarkDenim]

Arshavin has just saved the day. Now we need to score the winner. I hope Bendtner proves me wrong.

[DarkDenim]

Haha Everton losers! We're onto you now suckers!

[DarkDenim]

Sweet victory!

[RexxGrim]

Just kidding. Watched till the end.

[Tarantula]

Great comeback by the boys. Great character shown tonight.

Whoever that 2nd commentator was tonight was so anti Arsenal it was beyond a joke. Calling the first goal "debatable", ridiculing Fabregas, Song and Walcott on various occasions. What a plonker.

[DarkDenim]

Great comeback by the boys. Great character shown tonight.

Whoever that 2nd commentator was tonight was so anti Arsenal it was beyond a joke. Calling the first goal "debatable", ridiculing Fabregas, Song and Walcott on various occasions. What a plonker.

Bloody idiot! He also accused Arsenal of willing to do anything to waste time when Walcott was down.

[phiber]

The refs had an ABSOLUTE SHOCKER last night. They need to learn the damn offside rules. Also think Mason missed a lot of fouls!

[Mach III]

I LOOOOOVE ARSHAVIN!!!

[SinghDude]

Is Fabregas going to get fined for his half time rant with the refs ?

[R13...]

Is Fabregas going to get fined for his half time rant with the refs ?
What rant?

[poffle]

Sho last nights game was hectic.
Most our guys played well, really glad Arshavin put one in the net, boost his confidence because that kid is just class. Bendter was a useless sub :/ Atleast we won and still in contention!

[poffle]

Is Fabregas going to get fined for his half time rant with the refs ?

Just reading on sky now, i dont think so. Wenger said fabregas didnt speak to the ref, it was only Wenger who spoke to them.

[RexxGrim]

What rant?

David Moyes accused Cesc of abusing the referee in the tunnel at half time. While they were walking in the tunnel I mean. Arsene said he was next to Cesc and he didn't see or hear anything.

Edit: He actually just asked the linesman if he can send his sister to explain him the offside rule.

[R13...]

David Moyes accused Cesc of abusing the referee in the tunnel at half time. While they were walking in the tunnel I mean. Arsene said he was next to Cesc and he didn't see or hear anything.
That's why I ask 'what rant?'. Both Arsene & Moyes are biased for obvious reasons. If Cesc abused the ref, then its for the ref to put it in his report & let due process follow.

[SinghDude]

Well from what iv read on BBC the ref's deserved it !!!!

[SinghDude]

Arsène Wenger last night accused Chelsea of hypocrisy after questioning the logic of Roman Abramovich's lavish £76.5m outlay on Fernando Torres and David Luiz.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/02/arsene-wenger-chelsea-transfer

Wenger certainly hates the amount of play money being thrown about.

[smokey]

Arsène Wenger last night accused Chelsea of hypocrisy after questioning the logic of Roman Abramovich's lavish £76.5m outlay on Fernando Torres and David Luiz.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/02/arsene-wenger-chelsea-transfer

Wenger certainly hates the amount of play money being thrown about.

French people. All they do is eat cheese and complain. OK... and surrender in wars.

[SinghDude]

Wenger loves the Gooners so much, he might consider himself English.

[Alan]

C'mon Arsenal. I'm sure the fans of most other clubs support you for the title.

[Tarantula]

Arsène Wenger last night accused Chelsea of hypocrisy after questioning the logic of Roman Abramovich's lavish £76.5m outlay on Fernando Torres and David Luiz.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/02/arsene-wenger-chelsea-transfer

Wenger certainly hates the amount of play money being thrown about.

Well its borderline cheating. However, when the "break even" rule comes into effect in 2012/13, Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool will all be fooked. They'll have to rely on other things apart from their cheque book. Thats something to look forward to.

[nivek]

C'mon Arsenal. I'm sure the fans of most other clubs support you for the title.

Liverpool fans should definitely be!

[SinghDude]

Well its borderline cheating. However, when the "break even" rule comes into effect in 2012/13, Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool will all be fooked. They'll have to rely on other things apart from their cheque book. Thats something to look forward to.

L'pool wont be fooked. The new owners have left them debt free. LFC does have income from other sources other than the owners.

[Mach III]

L'pool wont be fooked. The new owners have left them debt free. LFC does have income from other sources other than the owners.

Liverpool won't be f**ked, because they are already f**ked!

[craigdoepie]

Liverpool won't be f**ked, because they are already f**ked!

It's funny how in all the Forums that topic of conversation always ends up at Liverpool. Seeing that this is a Arsenal, not going to comment any further.

But anyway, just a quick question on the first goal. I might be wrong here, but the ball came off a Arsenal defender if that is the case doesn't that make Saha NOT offside. Or can someone perhaps explain that one to me. But nice win and cmon lets shut up the Utd and Chelsea fans by winning the title. Liverpool will assist use also, starting by beating Chelsea on Saturday

[Alan]

Well its borderline cheating. However, when the "break even" rule comes into effect in 2012/13, Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool will all be fooked. They'll have to rely on other things apart from their cheque book. Thats something to look forward to.

hmm Man City net spend this window +- 27mill, Chelski net spend +- 70mill, Liverpool net spend +- 2mill....

I see your point


It's funny how in all the Forums that topic of conversation always ends up at Liverpool. Seeing that this is a Arsenal, not going to comment any further.


Perhaps because they're the greatest club in the U.K

[SinghDude]

hmm Man City net spend this window +- 27mill, Chelski net spend +- 70mill, Liverpool net spend +- 2mill....

I see your point



Perhaps because they're the greatest club in the U.K EVER


I agree.

[Mach III]

It's funny how in all the Forums that topic of conversation always ends up at Liverpool. Seeing that this is a Arsenal, not going to comment any further.

But anyway, just a quick question on the first goal. I might be wrong here, but the ball came off a Arsenal defender if that is the case doesn't that make Saha NOT offside. Or can someone perhaps explain that one to me. But nice win and cmon lets shut up the Utd and Chelsea fans by winning the title. Liverpool will assist use also, starting by beating Chelsea on Saturday


1st of all, Liverpool have just sold their main striker, and spent more money than any Chelsea player cost (except for Torres), on Andy Carrol.. (That is why in this specific circumstance it has switched to Liverpool)

2ndly, It is offside, unless the Arsenal player had directly controlled it. It was a deflection.
If the Arsenal player intentionally passed it back towards the keeper and the player was waiting there, then no offside.
How difficult would the linesmen’s job be if they had to monitor indirect touches for offsides? (A Linesman would be more prestigious title than an Actuarial scientist)


3rdly, Chelsea are long gone, but hope you guys win anyway!

[MartyMarts]

Good game last night. After Everton scored, I thought 'here we go again...' but kudos to Arsenal for not giving up. Everton really gave it everything until we equalised.

F-ck! I had way too much vodka last night.

[RexxGrim]

The offside was a shocker, but everyone gets bad decisions. Teams that are good enough needs to play to nulify those decisions. You can complain about it afterwards, but I've never seen a score changed after a match.

Liverpool is a cash machine and should be fine with the FIFA fairplay rules. City however is living way beyond their means. Chelsea, not sure but I think they are borderline.

[nivek]

1st of all, Liverpool have just sold their main striker, and spent more money than any Chelsea player cost (except for Torres), on Andy Carrol.. (That is why in this specific circumstance it has switched to Liverpool)

2ndly, It is offside, unless the Arsenal player had directly controlled it. It was a deflection.
If the Arsenal player intentionally passed it back towards the keeper and the player was waiting there, then no offside.
How difficult would the linesmen’s job be if they had to monitor indirect touches for offsides? (A Linesman would be more prestigious title than an Actuarial scientist)


3rdly, Chelsea are long gone, but hope you guys win anyway!

Chelsea are far from long gone, a loss last night and they wouldve been right on our backs again

[Tarantula]

hmm Man City net spend this window +- 27mill, Chelski net spend +- 70mill, Liverpool net spend +- 2mill....

I see your point


I am included Liverpool there because if they are willing to spend an absolutely obscene amount on a player like Carroll (ala Chelsea on Torres), then surely they must be heading for a bottom line in the red.

[SinghDude]

I am included Liverpool there because if they are willing to spend an absolutely obscene amount on a player like Carroll (ala Chelsea on Torres), then surely they must be heading for a bottom line in the red.

How can they be in the red when they basically took Chelsea's money and spent it on Carroll ?

[Mach III]

How can they be in the red when they basically took Chelsea's money and spent it on Carroll ?

The only red they are near is their kit!

[Tarantula]

How can they be in the red when they basically took Chelsea's money and spent it on Carroll ?

I am not saying they ARE in the red, but if you are willing to spend that kind of money on an unproven player, means there can't be savvy minded folk with the cheque book and will surely be heading for the red? Spending exorbitant amounts of money on average players means you won't get what you paid for on the football pitch and won't get money back if you sell them. Simple really.

Aquilani to Liverpool, Adebayor to City, Milner to City, Ibra to Barca, Schevchenko to Chelsea are all examples of big money transfer flops. Wonder if we'll be adding Torres to Chelsea on to that list?

Inflating the price of players because money doesn't matter to you (ala City and Chelsea) is completely unfair on the teams that abide by the "fair play" system. It is digusting and they must just **** off.

[Mach III]

I am not saying they ARE in the red, but if you are willing to spend that kind of money on an unproven player, means there can't be savvy minded folk with the cheque book and will surely be heading for the red? Spending exorbitant amounts of money on average players means you won't get what you paid for on the football pitch and won't get money back if you sell them. Simple really.

Aquilani to Liverpool, Adebayor to City, Milner to City, Ibra to Barca, Schevchenko to Chelsea are all examples of big money transfer flops. Wonder if we'll be adding Torres to Chelsea on to that list?

Inflating the price of players because money doesn't matter to you (ala City and Chelsea) is completely unfair on the teams that abide by the "fair play" system. It is digusting and they must just **** off.

Ibrahimovic was a big money flop?? Firstly, he played very well for them. 2ndly They sold him for around what they bought him for?
Not bad business as the rest are.

Liverpool have a clown in charge of transfers [With long green hair that juggles] .. ie: Aquilani for a billion. Selling their midfield; Mascherano, and Xabi Alonso (wtf). Selling Torres for a profit of 31Million, and buying Carroll for 35Million. (nice upgrade)

[MartyMarts]

Yeah, these big money transfers really fsucks up the transfer market.

[nivek]

Ibrahimovic was a big money flop?? Firstly, he played very well for them. 2ndly They sold him for around what they bought him for?
Not bad business as the rest are.


Not bad business?
They bought him for 46million euros + Eto (another 20-30million euros) and loaned him to AC Milan with the option to buy for 24m?

[craigdoepie]

Ibrahimovic was a big money flop?? Liverpool have a clown in charge of transfers [With long green hair that juggles] .. ie: Aquilani for a billion. Selling their midfield; Mascherano, and Xabi Alonso (wtf). Selling Torres for a profit of 31Million, and buying Carroll for 35Million. (nice upgrade)

Liverpool needed a striker on short notice and with Torres not willing to stay at the club, the club decided that they need to get Carrol. Carrol was on the list before Torres even left and with him, this made it a must buy. Yes it was alot of money, but at the end of the day, the club didn't use much of there own money.

Mascherano did not want to stay a Liverpool, he requested to leave and he was sold to Barca. The sale of Xabi and purchase of Aqualani still dumbfounds all Liverpool supporters I am sure.

But all those sales and purchases before new regime.

Can't comment much on Ibra, don't follow Serie A that much. But from what I hear he was quite a good player at Barca.

[RexxGrim]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6718002,00.html

Nasri seem likely to sign a new deal at Arsenal.

[Mach III]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6718002,00.html

Nasri seem likely to sign a new deal at Arsenal.

Instead of reading it on sky news, you can read it on his face when he plays :)

[Mach III]

Not bad business?
They bought him for 46million euros + Eto (another 20-30million euros) and loaned him to AC Milan with the option to buy for 24m?

I didn't say that in respect of Business, I was commenting in the sense of him being a 'flop'.

But

In the respect of business, he helped Barcelona win the Champions League. Is that bad for business?

[sh4rpz]

I am not saying they ARE in the red, but if you are willing to spend that kind of money on an unproven player, means there can't be savvy minded folk with the cheque book and will surely be heading for the red? Spending exorbitant amounts of money on average players means you won't get what you paid for on the football pitch and won't get money back if you sell them. Simple really.

Aquilani to Liverpool, Adebayor to City, Milner to City, Ibra to Barca, Schevchenko to Chelsea are all examples of big money transfer flops. Wonder if we'll be adding Torres to Chelsea on to that list?

Inflating the price of players because money doesn't matter to you (ala City and Chelsea) is completely unfair on the teams that abide by the "fair play" system. It is digusting and they must just **** off.

I hear your argument - but I think this is a unique case of panic buying along with the fact that Liverpool got exactly what the wanted out of any potential Torres deal economically.

I don't think Liverpool would have paid 35million for Carrol if they did not get 50mil for Torres.

In my opinion the Suarez deal made sense - to pair him with Torres. But due to the fact of Carrol's 'englishness' if you will, and the fact that it all came down to the last day in the Jan transfer window, the price paid by Liverpool is hardly surprising.

The real winners in all this are Newcastle United, or Mike Ashley if you will.

[DarkDenim]

Sho last nights game was hectic.
Most our guys played well, really glad Arshavin put one in the net, boost his confidence because that kid is just class. Bendter was a useless sub :/ Atleast we won and still in contention!

I share your sentiments :D

[Mach III]

I share your sentiments :D

Lol, you seem to hate bendtner more than I do.

[Tarantula]

Whats with this constant Bendtner bashing? He is important part of the side, and gets important goals. Scores and creates goals. Why no Diaby, Eboue, Squillaci, Denilson bashing?

[Randhir]

Ibrahimovic was a big money flop?? Firstly, he played very well for them. 2ndly They sold him for around what they bought him for?
Not bad business as the rest are.


:erm:


I didn't say that in respect of Business, I was commenting in the sense of him being a 'flop'.

But

In the respect of business, he helped Barcelona win the Champions League. Is that bad for business?

Again, :erm:
Which Champions League was this?

[nivek]

Whats with this constant Bendtner bashing? He is important part of the side, and gets important goals. Scores and creates goals. Why no Diaby, Eboue, Squillaci, Denilson bashing?

Don't waste your time, some people are only capable of regurgitating what they read on negative blogs like legrove, I honestly dont believe the bendtner bashers actually watch arsenal consistently

[nivek]

I didn't say that in respect of Business, I was commenting in the sense of him being a 'flop'.

But

In the respect of business, he helped Barcelona win the Champions League. Is that bad for business?

Dude thats ****ing amazing, how did he do it when he only arrived the season after they won it?

[Mach III]

:erm:



Again, :erm:
Which Champions League was this?

Lool! I forgot that they lost to Inter Milan in the SEMI final :) Soz.. I'm tired.

[Mach III]

Dude thats ****ing amazing, how did he do it when he only arrived the season after they won it?

Chill Chill, I just remember him raping us alongside messi

[Mach III]

Dude thats ****ing amazing, how did he do it when he only arrived the season after they won it?

Chill Chill, I just remember him and messi raping us.

[nivek]

Chill Chill, I just remember him raping us alongside messi

then you really do have an odd perspective on things, it was an all messi show
Ibra did score 1 decent goal over the 2 legs though, but then so did the dane

[Randhir]

Lool! I forgot that they lost to Inter Milan in the final :) Soz.. I'm tired.

:erm: Which final was that?

:p

[nivek]

:erm: Which final was that?

:p

LOL!

[Mach III]

then you really do have an odd perspective on things, it was an all messi show
Ibra did score 1 decent goal over the 2 legs though, but then so did the dane

If Ibrahimovic had have scored 1 goal we would have won the first Leg :?

You must have a reeaaaaalllyyyyy odd perspective on things.

[Tarantula]

then you really do have an odd perspective on things, it was an all messi show
Ibra did score 1 decent goal over the 2 legs though, but then so did the dane

I think he scored both at the Emirates? Either way, seems we have an Ibra fanboi in the house.

[Mach III]

Corrected.

[nivek]

I think he scored both at the Emirates? Either way, seems we have an Ibra fanboi in the house.

Ah so he did (Ibra)

Indeed.. Genius Mach III?

[Mach III]

I think he scored both at the Emirates? Either way, seems we have an Ibra fanboi in the house.

Well, he is ZUPER man!

[Mach III]

Ah so he did (Ibra)

Indeed.. Genius Mach III?

No, Genius Nivek.

[Randhir]

Indeed.. Genius Mach III?

Genius Mach II, new from Gillette!

[Mach III]

Genius Rand-hi, new exchange rate with the dollar? :erm:

[smokey]

I'm so glad I'm not part of this one...

[Tarantula]

Genius Rand-hi, new exchange rate with the dollar? :erm:

*crickets*

[Mach III]

Well I think we even.

I forgot Barcelona didn't win the champions league.

You forgot that Ibrahimovic scored 2 against arsenal, which isn't good considering you rate bendtner (bendtner haters don't consistently watch arsenal).

[nivek]

Well I think we even.

I forgot Barcelona didn't win the champions league.

You forgot that Ibrahimovic scored 2 against arsenal, which isn't good considering you rate bendtner (bendtner haters don't consistently watch arsenal).

So now that we all agree that Ibra didnt help them win the CL do we all agree he was a ~70M euro flop?

Btw before you answer that I want you to consider the following from the same year:
Ibra - 29 appearances - 16 goals
Ibra was 28 at the time, and he cost ~70M euros, playing in a league that consists of 2 teams

Bendtner 31 appearances - 12 goals
Bendtner was 22 at the time, playing in a tougher league, and he cost nothing

[SinghDude]

So now that we all agree that Ibra didnt help them win the CL do we all agree he was a ~70M euro flop?

Maybe the cost of the transfer was flop dealing. The guy still won alot.

[Mach III]

It also depends on the total amount spent on him.. I think more money that was spent on him saw greatness.. He was a superstar at Juve, then at Inter, and now at AC.. Surely his salary and transfer fees back then outweigh his time at Barcelona?

Hence: I think more than 70Million on him has seen greatness..

Whether he was a flop at Barcelona is another story..

And then it depends on what the characteristics of a flop are.

[poffle]

I honestly dont believe the bendtner bashers actually watch arsenal consistently

Yes, make assumptions that are completely incorrect.

The reason i said he was a useless sub because he had 2 clear opportunities but did absolutely bugger all with them. Also didnt offer much else in the 20 minutes that he was on for.

[nivek]

Maybe the cost of the transfer was flop dealing. The guy still won alot.

They essentially offloaded him the following season for less than half what they paid, what does that tell you about what they thought of him?

[Tarantula]

Spending that kind of cash you expect someone on Ronaldo's level. He wasn't even close.

[Mach III]

I do not think he should be classified with Shevchenko, or with Aquilani. One example being would be (Shevchenko, and Aquilani never scored a brace against Arsenal).

[SinghDude]

They essentially offloaded him the following season for less than half what they paid, what does that tell you about what they thought of him?

Was his whole career a flop ?

[nivek]

Yes, make assumptions that are completely incorrect.

The reason i said he was a useless sub because he had 2 clear opportunities but did absolutely bugger all with them. Also didnt offer much else in the 20 minutes that he was on for.

Sorry, I wasn't actually referring to you
I agree he didn't do much last night, but nor did RVP in 90 minutes? I know he got the assist for the corner, but he also had a few opportunities on goal.
Bendtners bicycle kick was pretty decent though!

[nivek]

Was his whole career a flop ?

He was a flop at Barcelona

[Mach III]

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada10-11/08/28/n100828112606.html

It was more than just the transfer fee involved.

They just didn't need him. Either Villa, or him will sit on the bench.

Seeing as though Barcelona are the Spanish National team, it is only reasonable for them to side with their Spaniard.

The relation between the amount they spent on him, and the amount they spend per transfer window should be taken into consideration as well as with their total revenue.

[nivek]

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada10-11/08/28/n100828112606.html

It was more than just the transfer fee involved.

They just didn't need him. Either Villa, or him will sit on the bench.

Seeing as though Barcelona are the Spanish National team, it is only reasonable for them to side with their Spaniard.

The Spaniard or, the better player? :)

[smokey]

Was his whole career a flop ?

DUDE! :wtf:

Are you for real? It was a transfer flop!! Where did nivek ever say Ibra's career was a flop?? I mean seriously??

*unbelievable*

[poffle]

Sorry, I wasn't actually referring to you

ah okay ;)

[Randhir]

Maybe the cost of the transfer was flop dealing. The guy still won alot.

That isn't the debate.


It also depends on the total amount spent on him.. I think more money that was spent on him saw greatness.. He was a superstar at Juve, then at Inter, and now at AC.. Surely his salary and transfer fees back then outweigh his time at Barcelona?

Hence: I think more than 70Million on him has seen greatness..

Whether he was a flop at Barcelona is another story..

And then it depends on what the characteristics of a flop are.

Again, we're talking about AT Barcelona.


I do not think he should be classified with Shevchenko, or with Aquilani. One example being would be (Shevchenko, and Aquilani never scored a brace against Arsenal).

I don't think Aquilani should be classified as a flop at all tbh, it wasn't his fault his manager never played him.


Was his whole career a flop ?

Who said that?

[Mach III]

DUDE! :wtf:

Are you for real? It was a transfer flop!! Where did nivek ever say Ibra's career was a flop?? I mean seriously??

*unbelievable*

Read up, he asked whether or not Ibrahimovic was a 70million flop (note: not mentioning Barcelona)

[nivek]

Read up, he asked whether or not Ibrahimovic was a 70million flop (note: not mentioning Barcelona)
Well who paid 70m for him?

[Mach III]

That isn't the debate.



Again, we're talking about AT Barcelona.



I don't think Aquilani should be classified as a flop at all tbh, it wasn't his fault his manager never played him.



Who said that?

LOOOOOL Are we talking talent now?

If so, most flops are very talented! :)

He was a flop because he never played. Be it managers fault, owners fault, weathers fault.

[Randhir]

Read up, he asked whether or not Ibrahimovic was a 70million flop (note: not mentioning Barcelona)

C'mon dude. Since it was Barcelona that bought him for that amount, it's obvious that he was referring to Ibra being a flop at Barcelona.

[Mach III]

Well who paid 70m for him?

I do not know, a google search doesn't produce immediate reliable responses..

Can you give me a link showing me the exact price was 70million, and if so, that is making the assumption that we have all read that specific page.

[smokey]

Read up, he asked whether or not Ibrahimovic was a 70million flop (note: not mentioning Barcelona)

:erm:

[nivek]

I do not know, a google search doesn't produce immediate reliable responses..

Can you give me a link showing me the exact price was 70million, and if so, that is making the assumption that we have all read that specific page.

Well it all depends on how much you valued Eto at, at the end of '08 - upwards of 30m was commonly accepted

[Mach III]

And from the link that I provided; Barcelona will save 60million on Ibra going to Inter..

That makes it a loss of 10million.


So what are the characteristics of a flop?

[smokey]

I do not know, a google search doesn't produce immediate reliable responses..

Can you give me a link showing me the exact price was 70million, and if so, that is making the assumption that we have all read that specific page.

Google "top en transfers of all time", notice... I didn't put the words soccer/football and it even contained a typo. I found 3 pages (of varying dates of course) and the top news piece was a top ten footy transfer one.

http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/sports/201102/131777.php - that's it right there.

[Randhir]

LOOOOOL Are we talking talent now?

If so, most flops are very talented! :)

He was a flop because he never played. Be it managers fault, owners fault, weathers fault.

That's your opinion. I dunno how he can be classified a flop if he hardly played. That's just bad managing.


I do not know, a google search doesn't produce immediate reliable responses..

Can you give me a link showing me the exact price was 70million, and if so, that is making the assumption that we have all read that specific page.

There seems to be a lot you don't know here, yet you still keep arguing.

[nivek]

And from the link that I provided; Barcelona will save 60million on Ibra going to Inter..

That makes it a loss of 10million.


So what are the characteristics of a flop?

When is Ibra going to Inter?
The 60m saving would be on his salary over 5 years, not his transfer fee! Thats money already burnt.

And for Wiki:




He signed a 5-year contract,[28] for €46 million ($65 million)[28] and the exchange of Eto'o (valued at €20 million) and loan of Alyaksandr Hleb (with an option to buy for a €10 million fee),[28] with a €250 million release clause,[28] making Ibrahimović worth €66 million ($94 million).

So 66 million

[smokey]

Well it all depends on how much you valued Eto at, at the end of '08 - upwards of 30m was commonly accepted

He was given as a 15million makewheight. Forget about the market value - that is how much he was worth to both clubs after negotiations... *


* iirc

[Mach III]

The value of eto depends on a few things, it depends on the contract length remaining when he left for Inter. It would be ignorant to jump to the conlcusion that he cost 70 million. As I did not know that for sure.

[Randhir]

And from the link that I provided; Barcelona will save 60million on Ibra going to Inter..

That makes it a loss of 10million.


So what are the characteristics of a flop?

LOL! 70m-24m = 10m to you? Don't believe the nonsense that the club feeds to make fans it hasn't wasted money.

Inter :erm:

[Randhir]

The value of eto depends on a few things, it depends on the contract length remaining when he left for Inter. It would be ignorant to jump to the conlcusion that he cost 70 million. As I did not know that for sure.

No one said he cost 70million! My word!

[Mach III]

66 million sounds good, however this is irrelevant to what the definition of a flop is!

[Mach III]

No one said he cost 70million! My word!

Lol...

[Mach III]

LOL! 70m-24m = 10m to you? Don't believe the nonsense that the club feeds to make fans it hasn't wasted money.

Inter :erm:

Lol, I mean AC..

It is in salaries and bonuses or whatever that amounts to 60million.

60Million potential money spent, and 66million spent are in the same category.

[Mach III]

That's your opinion. I dunno how he can be classified a flop if he hardly played. That's just bad managing.



There seems to be a lot you don't know here, yet you still keep arguing.

Well then I will look at it as a learning curve as I am always eager to learn :)

[Randhir]

The value of eto depends on a few things, it depends on the contract length remaining when he left for Inter. It would be ignorant to jump to the conlcusion that he cost 70 million. As I did not know that for sure.


No one said he cost 70million! My word!

Apologies. When you said 'he cost 70 million' I assumed you were talking about Eto'o since you only mentioned his name in that post...

[Mach III]

Apologies. When you said 'he cost 70 million' I assumed you were talking about Eto'o since you only mentioned his name in that post...

Just as I had (could have) assumed Nivek was talking about the transfer fee of Ibra for the transfer between juve and inter.

Thanks..

[nivek]

Lol, I mean AC..

It is in salaries and bonuses or whatever that amounts to 60million.

60Million potential money spent, and 66million spent are in the same category.

Not really.. In this case ~66million was spent already, over 5 years he would've cost 126 million

[Randhir]

Just as I had (could have) assumed Nivek was talking about the transfer fee of Ibra for the transfer between juve and inter.

Thanks..

:) Only if Inter had paid 70 mill to Juve for Ibra.

[Mach III]

:) Only if Inter had paid 70 mill to Juve for Ibra.

Lol, I didn't know the exact total of either transfers..