Official Arsenal FC Supporters Thread

[nivek]

Yep, I think once the red mist clears - Gooners will realise that getting rid of Arsene would be a bad move - whoever comes in will come in with a 3 year plan anyway - no assistant boss, new coaching staff, player clear outs - and although it's easy for fans to sit back and ask the manager to sell X and buy Y... only he will make those decisions at the end of the day. Arsene won't be pushed into spending, that's for sure.

I do think however, that this summer we will probably see a change in philosophy during the off-season regarding transfers. The sounds from inside Arsenal are increasingly pointing to a busy summer as Arsene runs the rule over the current squad.

I still maintain that we need a minimum of 3 quality first team players ready to come in and freshen up the squad. We do need to strengthen the depth of the squad in general, but if we re-enforce the spine of the team with defender, central midfielder and striker, I feel we'll be in a good position and it will immediately get some of our current first team players on their toes to work harder to prove they warrant a place in the starting line-up. The Euros will be on the way and a few players will be trying to impress their national squads too... so we will probably see a few players giving an extra 10% or so... but we need to give our team the best chance and the only way is to strengthen.

Just a side comment: the English are extremely Xenophobic - still listening in to TalkSport, radio phone in with Mark Staggers and Stan Collymore, they're on the phone with Gareth Barry - and oh my hat... they are oogling over how he's an English player who's now an FA Cup winner and gonna be in the UCL next season... amazing! They did the same with Spurs last season...do they realise that the majority of City's squad, mainly those directly responsible for their success, are foreign! The main question being asked is why are Arsenal and Chelsea sticking with foreign coaches...when people like Martin O' Neil are available and great managers in the Championship and League 1! Mental...

yeah the oogling is pathetic, little do they realise Gareth B will probably be sold next month and replaced with the new flavour of the month

[Randhir]

Just a side comment: the English are extremely Xenophobic - still listening in to TalkSport, radio phone in with Mark Staggers and Stan Collymore, they're on the phone with Gareth Barry - and oh my hat... they are oogling over how he's an English player who's now an FA Cup winner and gonna be in the UCL next season... ..

They obviously don't realise that City could've done a lot better without that plank.


yeah the oogling is pathetic, little do they realise Gareth B will probably be sold next month and replaced with the new flavour of the month

Hopefully he's as big a waste of space as Barry is.

[sh4rpz]

This isn't a time or ifs and buts but, Arsenal should have re-signed Patrick Vieira last season before he went to City. He is passed his best, yes - He would not be able to play every minute of every game but his presence would have been so valuable at the most important parts of the season. If you look at it, our players went missing when it counted. PV4 is a real winner.

You just need to look at when Arsenal last won a trophy he was there - since he left - nothing. Joins Juve, wins the title in his first season. Scored a few goals too. Under Mancini at Inter, same story. 3 titles back to back in Serie A. Comes back to the EPL and in his first full season at City, FA Cup winner. Awesome champion.

We've missed that.

[Tarantula]

Id like to ask the Wenger out brigade a question;
whats the difference between Arsenal and Spurs? (once you get the obvious out of the way, that being spurs are cznts and arsenal aren't ofcourse)

http://justarsenal.com/adam-kemp-five-reasons-why-wenger-must-go/7984?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Not that I agree with it, but I believe this seems to be the common feeling amongst the "Wenger out brigade". He does make some valid points, but fails to touch on all the good Wenger has brought the club.

[nivek]

http://justarsenal.com/adam-kemp-five-reasons-why-wenger-must-go/7984?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Not that I agree with it, but I believe this seems to be the common feeling amongst the "Wenger out brigade". He does make some valid points, but fails to touch on all the good Wenger has brought the club.


I stopped reading here;


The problem is that Wenger is so reluctant to get rid of these dead wood players and opts to reward them with better contracts. These players include Almunia, Squillaci, Denilson, Rosicky, Diaby and several other high profile names that have had their opportunities. It is still a mystery as to why he actually has not released Almunia this season and signed a world class keeper.
Lets start with the keeper situation, yes Almunia is **** and needs to go, but Fabianski was playing really well before he got injured, and the younger pole is quite obviously the real deal. There is no more keeper crisis. AW solved it.
Squillaci hasnt even been with Arsenal for a full season and for a 4th choice CB he is alright. I have no doubt he will go in the next transfer window, selling him during the season wasn't an option and he clearly didnt live up to expectations, but you only find that out once he plays in the league
Denilson has been crap, yes, but he was more than decent last season, and the season before.
Rosicky? Why is he even mentioned? In my opinion he has been classy and worked hard whenever he's been on the pitch, he hasnt been banging in the goals but he works hard and plays well when he's there.
I agree with him on Diaby

[Tarantula]

I stopped reading here;

Lets start with the keeper situation, yes Almunia is **** and needs to go, but Fabianski was playing really well before he got injured, and the younger pole is quite obviously the real deal. There is no more keeper crisis. AW solved it.
Squillaci hasnt even been with Arsenal for a full season and for a 4th choice CB he is alright. I have no doubt he will go in the next transfer window, selling him during the season wasn't an option and he clearly didnt live up to expectations, but you only find that out once he plays in the league
Denilson has been crap, yes, but he was more than decent last season, and the season before.
Rosicky? Why is he even mentioned? In my opinion he has been classy and worked hard whenever he's been on the pitch, he hasnt been banging in the goals but he works hard and plays well when he's there.
I agree with him on Diaby

The point he was making is that Wenger is not getting rid of the dead wood players sooner. The specifics around the keeper situation are not really relevant. Almunia has clearly shown, for a few seasons now, that he is not up to standard and yet he is still an Arsenal player. Same goes for Diaby, Denilson. I'd like to see Wenger being more cut throat. There seems to be a lack of desire from certain players who feel if they pitch up on the day, that is enough. If they see players, that aren't delivering, getting the boot maybe we'll see more ambition?

Rosicky is a great squad player and I would keep him. I disagree on Squillaci being a decent 4th choice CB. On the flip side, he has only had one season, in a league he hasn't played in before, and only got the odd game. Hardly good when finding form.

I think Wenger is a great manager. Arguably, as a manager on the whole, the best in the league given what he does behind the scenes. I just get a little frustrated with his stubborness in the transfer market, formations and team selections.

The performances on the pitch in the last few games have been a disgrace bar a few highlights in between. I've mentioned this before but this transfer window will determine the fate of Wenger, and more importantly the fate of Arsenal FC for the next few years.

[MartyMarts]

Wenger usually says that buying experienced players hampers the development of the young players. So now that players like Denilson, Diaby, Eboue and Bendtner have been given enough time to prove that they're simply not good enough, Wenger has no excuse in the upcoming transfer window.

[mmmig]

I stopped reading here;

Lets start with the keeper situation, yes Almunia is **** and needs to go, but Fabianski was playing really well before he got injured, and the younger pole is quite obviously the real deal. There is no more keeper crisis. AW solved it.
Squillaci hasnt even been with Arsenal for a full season and for a 4th choice CB he is alright. I have no doubt he will go in the next transfer window, selling him during the season wasn't an option and he clearly didnt live up to expectations, but you only find that out once he plays in the league
Denilson has been crap, yes, but he was more than decent last season, and the season before.
Rosicky? Why is he even mentioned? In my opinion he has been classy and worked hard whenever he's been on the pitch, he hasnt been banging in the goals but he works hard and plays well when he's there.
I agree with him on Diaby
To be fair to Diaby he is a very good attacking midfielder but he is below Fabregas, Nasri, Wilshere and Ramsey in the pecking order has a result Wenger plays him has a defending midfielder and he is not good at all in this position that said if there is no place for him in the squad he should be sold.
Although I like Rosicky I also fear he too has no place (regular) in the squad and he might be on his way out

[Mach III]

We must get rid of Eboue, Almunia, Diaby, Denilson, Squillaci, Song, Bendtner, Vela, and all other young players. Then buy One Super class Striker to play in front of RVP and One Super class CDM, followed by One Super Class CB. The spine of our team is ****. We don't have a finisher, RVP is a 2nd striker, I don't think he has any acrobatic ability. Song would be good, but he wants to go forward. Why does he want to go forward the whole time? We need a player that loves tackling. Finally we need a British defender, someone big and strong like Micah Richards...

[fishfly]

We must get rid of Eboue, Almunia, Diaby, Denilson, Squillaci, Song, Bendtner, Vela, and all other young players. Then buy One Super class Striker to play in front of RVP and One Super class CDM, followed by One Super Class CB. The spine of our team is ****. We don't have a finisher, RVP is a 2nd striker, I don't think he has any acrobatic ability. Song would be good, but he wants to go forward. Why does he want to go forward the whole time? We need a player that loves tackling. Finally we need a British defender, someone big and strong like Micah Richards...

BIG AND STRONG??? you do know he only played 29 games last season and 26 games this season? His so injury prone and out of form

[Mach III]

BIG AND STRONG??? you do know he only played 29 games last season and 26 games this season? His so injury prone and out of form

BIG AND STRONG!!!!!

[sh4rpz]

BIG AND STRONG??? you do know he only played 29 games last season and 26 games this season? His so injury prone and out of form

+1

I also find him inconsistent and gets caught the wrong side far too often.

[sh4rpz]

Just want to gauge what other Gooners out there think, but would you have Wayne Bridge come in at left back for Arsenal next season, to replace or give competition to Clichy? He's won back to back EPL titles with Chelsea and title winning left backs are hard to come by.

What do you guys think?

[Mach III]

Just want to gauge what other Gooners out there think, but would you have Wayne Bridge come in at left back for Arsenal next season, to replace or give competition to Clichy? He's won back to back EPL titles with Chelsea and title winning left backs are hard to come by.

What do you guys think?

BIG AND STRONG

[sh4rpz]

BIG AND STRONG

haha

[Tarantula]

Just want to gauge what other Gooners out there think, but would you have Wayne Bridge come in at left back for Arsenal next season, to replace or give competition to Clichy? He's won back to back EPL titles with Chelsea and title winning left backs are hard to come by.

What do you guys think?

Not a chance. His performances for the Hammers were very poor.

[Tarantula]

BIG AND STRONG??? you do know he only played 29 games last season and 26 games this season? His so injury prone and out of form

Injury prone? Dude, that is at the top of the list of the requirements to be an Arsenal player!

[sh4rpz]

Not a chance. His performances for the Hammers were very poor.

Let's be honest though, he wasn't exactly helped by a poor West Ham squad either. I haven't watched WHU enough this season to spot any comments about his individual performances - but ye, he is probably available on the cheap as well.

[Tarantula]

Let's be honest though, he wasn't exactly helped by a poor West Ham squad either. I haven't watched WHU enough this season to spot any comments about his individual performances - but ye, he is probably available on the cheap as well.

I'd much prefer Upson if we are picking from West Ham's defence. Straight swap with Squillaci.

[sh4rpz]

I'd much prefer Upson if we are picking from West Ham's defence. Straight swap with Squillaci.

hmm...i dunno hey. We've had too many injury hit players - but i hear you.

I'm happy it's Arsene making these decisions and not us!

[Tarantula]

hmm...i dunno hey. We've had too many injury hit players - but i hear you.

I'm happy it's Arsene making these decisions and not us!

I used to think that, but he really dropped the ball in the last two transfer windows, it has to be said. Hopefully he'll be back to his shrewdness in the transfer market in the next one.

[nivek]

hell no, not wayne bridge

[sh4rpz]

I used to think that, but he really dropped the ball in the last two transfer windows, it has to be said. Hopefully he'll be back to his shrewdness in the transfer market in the next one.

I don't think he dropped the ball as such - just merely putting his faith in certain players, feeling they would produce what they probably do in training on the pitch during matches. If we think that arsene has failed us, then we have to consider that the players have just as much failed him. And it works both ways as he shouldve probably held onto more experienced players/winners we have had down the years. But let's get behind the man once again as if anyone could turn this around, surely its arsene.

[sh4rpz]

Btw, I can't believe I'm going to be hoping Tony Pubis and his crunts do us a favour and at least get a draw against those powder-blue tossers tonight!

I know. Sad.

[fishfly]

erm Wayne Bridge was loaned out to WHU his a City player not WH...

[Tarantula]

Gary Cahill confident of Arsenal switch


The Bolton Wanderers defender Gary Cahill is certain to be leaving the Reebok this summer with Owen Coyle’s blessing, and although he has been rumoured to be wanted by many clubs, it is Arsenal that have been consistently linked with him since the beginning of the season.

It was reported that Arsene Wenger made a last minute bid to sign him in January, but the Frenchman as usual refuses to make any comments about his transfer dealings.

Now today the Daily Mirror is reporting that Cahill has been telling his friends that he fully expects to be playing for the Gunners next season, which if nothing else means that he is fully aware that Arsenal are ready to outbid any other suitors.

The Mirror also says that Man United are also interested in the English international, but they believe that Wenger will get his man for around £15m as soon as the transfer window opens.

I don’t think there would be many unhappy Arsenal fans if they knew that Vermaelen and Cahill were the first-choice centre-back pairing next season, with Koscielny and Djourou as back-up….

http://justarsenal.com/gary-cahill-confident-of-arsenal-switch/7998?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Promising...

[Alan]

erm Wayne Bridge was loaned out to WHU his a City player not WH...

he's not even a player, he's a lard :o

[sh4rpz]

Gary Cahill confident of Arsenal switch



http://justarsenal.com/gary-cahill-confident-of-arsenal-switch/7998?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Promising...

Heard Lee Dixon voice some concerns about Gary Cahill. Dixon reckons that Cahill won't work well with the system played at Arsenal due to his lack of pace. Arsenal play a very high line and that would expose Cahill.

Interesting.

[Randhir]

Arsenal play a very high line and that would expose Cahill.


The high line exposes Clichy and Wenger's kept him around for a long time.

[sh4rpz]

The high line exposes Clichy and Wenger's kept him around for a long time.

Not arguing. We do need a new CB and LB - just pointing out that more of the same/worse than we already have is not what we need.

If we are going to spend 15m I'd rather us get someone who will actually make the team better, even if he isn't a household name.

A deeper look at Cahill suggests he isn't the answer. There will be no quick fix.

[poolmania]

Dunne, Bridge.....not good times coming up for Arsenal then?

[poolmania]

I'm happy it's Arsene making these decisions and not us!

In a nutshell.

[MartyMarts]

If you have a back four that work as a unit and know how to keep a line regardless of how high it is then the pace of each individual defender is often irrelevant. Arsenal were the kings of the offside trap in the era of Dixon | Adams |Keown | Winterburn. How quick were any of them?

Having quick defenders to counteract quick attackers is fine to some degree but if you have a back line that can't work together in *all* situations then well the rest of their attributes are only effective in one v one situations. Hence our dismal record of conceding goals from set pieces and over-the-top balls.

I think Arsenal's defensive problems go a lot deeper than just the pace of our slowest defender or the high line that we play.

[sh4rpz]

If you have a back four that work as a unit and know how to keep a line regardless of how high it is then the pace of each individual defender is often irrelevant. Arsenal were the kings of the offside trap in the era of Dixon | Adams |Keown | Winterburn. How quick were any of them?

Having quick defenders to counteract quick attackers is fine to some degree but if you have a back line that can't work together in *all* situations then well the rest of their attributes are only effective in one v one situations. Hence our dismal record of conceding goals from set pieces and over-the-top balls.

I think Arsenal's defensive problems go a lot deeper than just the pace of our slowest defender or the high line that we play.

All very valid points. I'm pretty sure Dixon was just outlining the caution the manager has to take this summer rather than isolating one players as the means to rectify a problem that he realises runs a lot deeper than just playing personnel.

With regard to Cahill, I haven't really seen him more than 3 times this season to pass judgement.

And like all of you, I have lost faith in our teams ability to use the strengths - be it pace or tactical awareness or strength - to sufficiently 'pull-off' the system of running a high line.

So many times this season, that high line has cost us. And I agree, that defensive tactics whether as a team or with just the back four need to be revisited and get the basics right: do not dwell on the ball, do not lose concentration, when in possession with the ball, do not run beyond your midfield losing the ball then be caught on the break out of position etc etc etc...

Edit: I would also like someone to tell our forwards to have a go rather than fish out another pass!

[MartyMarts]

Yeah sometimes I wonder if they even focus on the basics in training or just play 5-a-side for a few hours each day...

[Alan]

DENILSON LEAVING TOO
Amusingly, The Sun seem to have given the Tevez story the same weight as this one. One of the best players in the Premier League is apparently as newsworthy as a deeply, deeply average Arsenal reserve.

Anyway, Denilson wants out.

He said in The Sun: "This has been the worst season of my life and I am so upset, so frustrated.

"I am a winner and I came here to win trophies but I've been here for five years and won nothing.

"A footballer's career is over very quickly so it is time for me to move on...

"I can't see myself returning in a Chelsea shirt or Liverpool or Manchester City, and definitely not Tottenham. I think my future will be in Spain or Italy."

Eish Arsenal can't match the ambition of even Denilson......

[RexxGrim]

Eish Arsenal can't match the ambition of even Denilson......

Without replacing him it will be an improvement to the squad.

[Tarantula]

Without replacing him it will be an improvement to the squad.

+1. Honestly, this is brilliant news.

He lacks creativity, can't make a pass longer than 10 metres, always running side ways.

On top of that, he shows zero ambition and commitment on the pitch. I've seen it on more than one occassion when he will fall to the ground like a sack of potatoes (claiming an "injury") and give the ball to the opposition, leaving our already shakey defence exposed.

On top of THAT, he appears to be a general bad egg in the squad. I recall him making some dodgy comments about Cesc as a captain, and now this latest rant of him claiming to be a "winner" and Arsenal aren't winning.

Seriously, Denilson, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Randhir]

"I can't see myself returning in a Chelsea shirt or Liverpool or Manchester City, and definitely not Tottenham. I think my future will be in Spain or Italy."

Like they'd have him :erm:

[MartyMarts]

Like they'd have him :erm:

Yeah I was also like :wtf:
I don't see him doing much better than a mid to lower table La Liga side.

[RexxGrim]

Yeah I was also like :wtf:
I don't see him doing much better than a mid to lower table La Liga side.

He wants to go to win trophies so his only options in La Liga is Madrid or Barca. I can see him doing a decent job cleaning boots at either to be fair.

[sKuZz]

Hey chaps, I'm a united fan but I can't help but feel sorry for how your season has turned out. My question is... do you blame wenger or the players? It seems like I'm the only one defending the manager thesedays. Personally I feel he prepares the team well and his selections are good based on the players he has. His problem is that in his goal to improve club finances, he's turned the club from championship winners to a feeder club for the european giants. I think cesc is on his way out this season and maybe a few others as well. What wenger does with his transfer kitty will be key... the time for rebuilding has expired so next season its do or die for him.

[370z]

A stat to sum up the end of our season
'Five points from our last 6 games places us 18th in the Premier League form table'

[phiber]

The commentators put it well today, Arsenal finished fourth in a two horse race for the championship. Very sad but very true. We lost a cup final to a team that got relegated? Still baffles me.

Anyways, onto the transfer market. Glad to be seeing the back of Denllson. Might be time for Rosicky to move on as well. Need to hang onto Jens as a goal keeping coach for young Schezney. Wenger should really put in a cheeky bid for Ben Foster and/or Given, get rid of Almunia and either Mannone or Flapianski.

Would really like to see some changes in the back 4. The only guys I trust there are Vermalen and Sagna. Clichy makes toooo many mistakes, rather have Eboue at LB, so we can definitely sign some experience there. Not sure who though, but definitely could do with someone with some exp. Wouldn't mind seeing a Per Mertesacker in at CB next to TV. He needs to put in a very convincing bid for him and he won't be too expensive since he only has 1 more year on his contract. Kos and Djourou on the bench would be acceptable, but would still won't mind seeing the signing of a Cahill or Shawcross, someone strong to make tackles incase Verm is out for a long time.

I am happy with our central midfield, there has been talk about Scott Parker, but Fab, Ramsey, Wilshere, Song (needs to hang back more, pushes forward way too much and forces Fabregas to drop deep) are good and Nasri can play well through the center as well. Wouldn't be sad in Arsharvin left and we brought in a proper wide man on the left, someone that knows how to work the touch line and work in a cross. We depend on Clichy too much for that, and it leaves us exposed at the back. Our defenders just aren't defending. Not sure Walcott is happy on the right, and our only other option seems to be Bendtner, so we definitely need to look at a right and left sided midfielder, maybe Ashley Young? Theres lots of talk of this youngster we have loaned to Feynoord, Ryo Miyaichi but again think we lack experience. Every time united needed something big this season it came from Rooney, Berbatov, Scholes or Giggs. Experience, Experience Experience and more experience there...

Upfront we can always play RVP, but we lack a proper 6 yard man, someone who is willing to put his head where our current players won't even put their boots... An Ian Wright type striker that Van Persie can play off.

Time for Wenger to sacrifice some of this lovely ball passing football and learn to win hard. Knick a goal and then just learn to hold up players, mark them properly and dont let them play at us. We push too much forward and then get caught on the defensive.

[Randhir]

Wenger should really put in a cheeky bid for Ben Foster and/or Given

Ben Foster doesn't deal with pressure well, and no ways City will sell to a direct competitor, I feel sorry for Given...

[phiber]

Ben Foster doesn't deal with pressure well, and no ways City will sell to a direct competitor, I feel sorry for Given...

Dunno why they won't see to us, we sold them Toure and Adebayor. Wenger is prob the only manager who will sell into in his own league.

Foster is better than what we have. I would love to see him sign Steklenberg or Neuer, but they will be at united and munich next season. Wenger just wont spend the cash on a gk. Squillaci was prob the worst buy ever made in the history of football. Kosc is not that good either, overpaid i think. Prob be able to bring in Mertasaker for less than Kos, oh how i wish we sign him and Given.

[Stickfigure]

Sheesh Arsenal finish behind man ****ty.

[Randhir]

Dunno why they won't see to us, we sold them Toure and Adebayor.

You sold to them because they threw bucketloads of cash at Wenger. Wenger won't do the same, and even if he would, City don't need it.

Besides which, what's wrong with Sczesney? I reckon he should be #1, he's earned it, and buying another keeper will just alienate him.


Wenger is prob the only manager who will sell into in his own league.


We sold you guys Silvestre :D

[RexxGrim]

You sold to them because they threw bucketloads of cash at Wenger. Wenger won't do the same, and even if he would, City don't need it.

Besides which, what's wrong with Sczesney? I reckon he should be #1, he's earned it, and buying another keeper will just alienate him.


Keeper is not our problem in my opinion. Tech9, Fab and the young Italian is fine by me. We need defenders that know how to defend set-pieces. Anyway it will be interesting to see what Wenger does. My prediction is not much though. Any Arsenal fan that is looking forward to a transfer window full of high profile names is in for a disapointment.


We sold you guys Silvestre :D

No comment.

[Tarantula]

Keeper is not our problem in my opinion. Tech9, Fab and the young Italian is fine by me. We need defenders that know how to defend set-pieces. Anyway it will be interesting to see what Wenger does. My prediction is not much though. Any Arsenal fan that is looking forward to a transfer window full of high profile names is in for a disapointment.



No comment.

Agree on keeper. Sczesney has only completed half a season as number 1 and he already looks like the real deal. He will only get better as his experience grows.

[Tarantula]

Since beating Leyton Orient on March 2, this has been our form to date:

DLLDDWDDLWLLD. Yup, thats 2 wins in 13 games. I think you can understand why the away fans were chanting "Spend some f**king money" yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=21NKegr-l5k

[Mach III]

Selling Lassana Diara has cost us dearly...

We need a tough tackling CDM, an angry English CB, and KARIM BENZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMA!

[fishfly]

Selling Lassana Diara has cost us dearly...

We need a tough tackling CDM, an angry English CB, and KARIM BENZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMA!

Perhaps you should try the Serbians :D

[Alan]

Liverpool

Deprived of European football for the first time since 1999. Still, at least their captain bothered to show an interest and did so in the company of the club's fans. It says so much about so many things that Arsenal's captain was nowhere to be seen at Craven Cottage, preferring instead to attend the Spanish GP at Barcelona. Six per cent, you say?


tsk tsk

[Randhir]

tsk tsk

Speaking of six percent, apparently coming 4th and not 3rd will cost Arsenal around the same amount of money as the price increase was going to bring in.

[fishfly]

Since beating Leyton Orient on March 2, this has been our form to date:

DLLDDWDDLWLLD. Yup, thats 2 wins in 13 games. I think you can understand why the away fans were chanting "Spend some f**king money" yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=21NKegr-l5k


Amazing that Rooney gets banned for swearing but fans in the stadium sing/swearing does not cause an uproar with the FA...

[Tarantula]

Amazing that Rooney gets banned for swearing but fans in the stadium sing/swearing does not cause an uproar with the FA...

Lol, you joking right?

[Randhir]

Amazing that Rooney gets banned for swearing but fans in the stadium sing/swearing does not cause an uproar with the FA...

Why? All the fans do it.

If you wanna compare it, what about Balotelli and Richards swearing in their interviews last week (I think) and the FA saying... well, sweet FA.

[Tarantula]

The only time I've seen fines regarding fan chants is when they are racial. This is far more severe than simply dropping the "F" bomb.

Reality is, foul language is firmly part of the English game.

[RexxGrim]

Amazing that Rooney gets banned for swearing but fans in the stadium sing/swearing does not cause an uproar with the FA...

Rooney looked right into the camera and said a bad word. The next time another player does that and the FA do nothing, you'll have a point.

[Mach III]

The day football loses curse words will be the darkest day on this earth

[phiber]

And it starts, Bendtner wants out...

If we can get 10 mil and put that towards a defender, i wont mind..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/922692/bendtner-tells-arsenal-he-wants-out?cc=3888

[nivek]

The Gunners boss added on Telefoot: "The market will be hyperactive because everyone believes financial fair play will happen soon.

"So we are quickly doing the last buying before the stores will be closed. And for the very first time for a while, I will be very active too."

[sh4rpz]

Gunnerblog: I Hope you're all excited about the promising South American replacement for Nicklas Bendtner... Carlos Vela.

heh!

[mmmig]

And it starts, Bendtner wants out...

If we can get 10 mil and put that towards a defender, i wont mind..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/922692/bendtner-tells-arsenal-he-wants-out?cc=3888
We will ne lucky to get 5mil for him.

[Randhir]

And it starts, Bendtner wants out...

If we can get 10 mil and put that towards a defender, i wont mind..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/922692/bendtner-tells-arsenal-he-wants-out?cc=3888

I'm pretty sure it started with Cesc, then Denilson. Nasri to an extent, too.

Also, dunno how much I'd blame Bendtner for that, he's a striker who's been shunted to wing for some very, very odd reason.

[nivek]

I'm pretty sure it started with Cesc, then Denilson. Nasri to an extent, too.

Also, dunno how much I'd blame Bendtner for that, he's a striker who's been shunted to wing for some very, very odd reason.

Bendtner will be a really good striker, i just hope he doesnt go somewhere in the EPL, rumours are its either Villa or Germany

[Tarantula]

Possible first signing...

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/05/23/arsenal-close-to-signing-unknown-argentinian/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[icyrus]

Also, dunno how much I'd blame Bendtner for that, he's a striker who's been shunted to wing for some very, very odd reason.

The reason isn't odd, he is just garbage.

[RexxGrim]

The reason isn't odd, he is just garbage.

He is still better than Chamakh imo.

Wenger should sell the players outside the premier league and not "replace" them with the next 17 year old wonderkid. That's all I want.

[phiber]

He is still better than Chamakh imo.

Wenger should sell the players outside the premier league and not "replace" them with the next 17 year old wonderkid. That's all I want.

Think Chamakh had a great start cos he was very different to what Arsenal has, then he hit the training ground and tried to become a passer and dribbler as well, just doesn't suit him... needs to go back to doing what he is good at, poaching goals.

[RexxGrim]

Think Chamakh had a great start cos he was very different to what Arsenal has, then he hit the training ground and tried to become a passer and dribbler as well, just doesn't suit him... needs to go back to doing what he is good at, poaching goals.

I've got no overall problem with his game. He can pass and hold up the ball very well, but he can't shoot to save his life. That is my only problem with the player.

Ask yourself this. If we had a penatly to win the game and you made a list of players you would prefer to take that penalty. Were would Chamakh be on that list?

[Mach III]

I've got no overall problem with his game. He can pass and hold up the ball very well, but he can't shoot to save his life. That is my only problem with the player.

Ask yourself this. If we had a penatly to win the game and you made a list of players you would prefer to take that penalty. Were would Chamakh be on that list?

D e f i n a t e l y

[MartyMarts]

Think Chamakh had a great start cos he was very different to what Arsenal has, then he hit the training ground and tried to become a passer and dribbler as well, just doesn't suit him... needs to go back to doing what he is good at, poaching goals.

+1 He looked like the real deal at beginning of the season but then the 'Arsenal way' kicked in and he started looking rather average.

[MartyMarts]

The Tuesday May 24 Transfer Gossip (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_6949472,00.html)


ARSENAL TO BE MAJOR SUMMER PLAYERS AFTER OFFLOADING THE DEADWOOD?
The very interesting comment from Arsene Wenger on Monday was a prediction of a frantic summer and the assurance that "for the first time for a while, I will be very active, too".

For the moment, however, it seems as if Arsenal are focused on clearing out the deadwood.

Denilson confirmed he is leaving last week, and Nicklas Bendtner followed suit on Sunday night. The Guardian reports 'Bendtner will be allowed to leave Arsenal if any club makes an offer of €10m (£8.7m) for him.' Meanwhile, The Daily Mirror says that 'Andrey Arshavin is a cut-price £7million target for his former club Zenit St Petersburg.'

So it's not as if Wenger can pretend he is short of money for new acquisitions. And the Mirror says there will be plenty more heading to the exit door:

'Arshavin, who turns 30 next week, is the biggest name in an expected summer clear-out at the club, with Nicklas Bendtner, Denilson, Abou Diaby, Carlos Vela, Emmanuel Eboue and Manuel Almunia also set to go. Gael Clichy will be sold too, unless he signs a new deal.'

Our rough guesstimate is that, even if Clichy was retained, Arsenal should be recouping £30m for that lot, plus £1 for Diaby, and we haven't even mentioned Cesc Fabregas yet.

I like the plus £1 for Diaby

[phiber]

The Tuesday May 24 Transfer Gossip (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_6949472,00.html)



I like the plus £1 for Diaby

What a sh*t article. they don't quote Wenger anywhere...

Here's what he had to say, about being very active:
"The market will be hyperactive because everyone believes financial fair play will happen soon," Wenger said, referring to UEFA's plans to limit club spending. "So we are quickly doing the last buying before the stores will be closed. And for the first time for a while, I will be very active, too."

Despite stating he will be "very active", Wenger does not feel the squad needs a major overhaul.

"The club is in a healthy financial situation and we have got the basis of the team but we know we want to be stronger next year," Wenger told French television. "The fans need to trust us because the club is in a strong position. I share their disappointment because a few weeks ago we were in a position to win the league and in the end we play for qualifying in the Champions League.

"Whether we deserve to come fourth or not, it is the points which count. The team has given a lot this year, we will be active and busy certainly and will try to make the right decisions. We have to take it on the chin and come back stronger next season."

from Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/922956/arsene-wenger:-we-will-be-%27very-active%27-in-transfer-window?cc=3888)

[sh4rpz]

...and silly season is well and truly here!

Here's some semi-to-unreliable info from the noise around Islington...

1. Don't expect a new keeper

2. Small chance of Per Mertersaker arriving

3. 4 Youth players will be promoted to the 1st team squad (currently on Arsenal's books) + 3 new youngsters joining (1 from England, 2 from Spain)

4. West Ham want 4 million pounds for Scott Parker + performance/appearance clauses adding up a further 2m GBP.

5. Arsenal are trying to rush a deal through for Benzema, believed to be available for 10m euros, if he is indeed in the final year of his contract - however, it is feared Real want to use him in a bid to take Tevez and Adebayor to Spain from Man City.

6. The central defender Arsene wants from the Bundesliga is not Mertersaker, but Neven Subutic.

7. Rosicky and Almunia have been told they can start looking for new clubs. Fabianski will sign a new 2 year extension on a revised deal.

8. Arsene wants Clichy to sign a new deal - however as many as 5 clubs from Spain and Italy are interested.

Again, these aren't facts or anything - just run of mill stories doing the rounds on Islington radio and in general discussion. I've left out some plain 'ol tales like 'Arsenal will enter running for Tevez for 50m' and 'Arsenal want Adebayor if they don't get Benzema'. You'll thank me later!

Enjoy!

[smokey]

Everyone wants Subotic.

[sh4rpz]

Arsenal have agreed to sign Barcelona Cadete B winger Héctor Bellerin, according to Sky Sports. The Spanish Under 16 international follows fellow La Masia product Jon Toral to North London.

Bellerin turned down a new contract last month, following a series of disagreements with coaching staff. Chelsea and Manchester United were both initially keen, but Arsenal moved quickly to secure his services. A compensation package of around €400,000 is said to have been agreed.

The pacy wide-man joins central midfielder Jon Toral in switching from Barcelona to Arsenal this summer, in a deal worth €350,000. All in all, around €1 million will eventually change hands.

Héctor and Jon both sign three-year-deals with the option for a further two years.

Source: http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/05/arsenal-sign-barcelona-winger-bellerin/

Also, some insight into some of the youngsters who are more likely to break through in 2011/12: http://www.footballfancast.com/2011/05/premiership/arsenal-premiership/five-arsenal-youngsters-set-to-make-breakthrough-next-season

Other transfer tittle-tattle: Bayern closing in on Bendtner, Villareal enter talks with Arsenal over Denilson for 8million euros and Arsenal to sign Dennis Bergkamp's nephew Roland Bergkamp aged 20 - Made the break through @ Excelsior this season in the Eredivisie scoring 5 goals in 11 starts with 28 appearances. He is a centre forward.

[nivek]

Barcelona are a bunch of cocks, as if it required any re-affirming,
Arsenal out of the goodness of their red and white hearts offer Barcelona the privilege of using their training ground while they're in London
And what do the classless ****s do?
http://t.co/irZc46q

[sh4rpz]

Barcelona are a bunch of cocks, as if it required any re-affirming,
Arsenal out of the goodness of their red and white hearts offer Barcelona the privilege of using their training ground while they're in London
And what do the classless ****s do?
http://t.co/irZc46q

well, you always knew that Puyol and Pique want to finger Cesc.

[MartyMarts]

What a sh*t article. they don't quote Wenger anywhere...

I think it was more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. Wenger saying that "The fans need to trust us because the club is in a strong position." is a little odd imo. Arsenal were once winning trophies, battling it out with Man U for the league and having an epic unbeaten in 49 run. Now they're in a strong position because they manage to qualify for the CL every season :wtf: 4-0 up against Newcastle ending in 4-4. 2-0 up against Spurs and losing 2-3. Those games just sum up how 'strong' a position Arsenal are in.

Chelsea invested heavily to achieve success and they proved that it is possible. Man City are going to go all out in the summer and probably buy a glut of new players to challenge on all fronts and I'm sure Chelsea aren't going to sit back. Man U are going to strengthen where necessary and with the great Sir Alex at the helm, they are sure as hell going to compete.

If Wenger continues to stick to his principals and doesn't adjust his approach then Arsenal are simply going to fall further behind over the next few seasons. Fair enough they play entertaining football and the club's finances are in a healthy state but as a supporter/fan of the club, is that always going to be good enough?

[Randhir]

Man City are going to go all out in the summer and probably buy a glut of new players to challenge on all fronts

Apparently not, though Mancini flew to the owners to convince them to splash out for 4 or 5 new players. What a chop.

[MartyMarts]

Apparently not, though Mancini flew to the owners to convince them to splash out for 4 or 5 new players. What a chop.

I don't think they'll take much convincing. Man City are already bloated with players but with CL qualification in the bag, Mancini will have a valid excuse to 'strengthen' the squad. Especially if Tevez leaves and the 'fringe' players likes of Adebayor, Jo, Bellamy, Given, Bridge, Wright-Phillips, Santa Cruz etc. leave for first team action elsewhere.

[nivek]

http://twitpic.com/52r5d1

[sh4rpz]

http://twitpic.com/52r5d1

Legend!

[Tarantula]

Barcelona are a bunch of cocks, as if it required any re-affirming,
Arsenal out of the goodness of their red and white hearts offer Barcelona the privilege of using their training ground while they're in London
And what do the classless ****s do?
http://t.co/irZc46q

They probably a bit miffed about us signing Toral and Bellerin from their youth academy.

[dbecks]

Barcelona are a bunch of cocks, as if it required any re-affirming,
Arsenal out of the goodness of their red and white hearts offer Barcelona the privilege of using their training ground while they're in London
And what do the classless ****s do?
http://t.co/irZc46qNo Guessing who you will be rooting for in the Final...:)

[Tarantula]

No Guessing who you will be rooting for in the Final...:)

I can't support either team. I just hope its a fair game with minimal theatrics.

[dbecks]

I can't support either team. I just hope its a fair game with minimal theatrics.Yep

[craigdoepie]

I just hope its a fair game with minimal theatrics

True that, but that is also like saying Ronaldo will stay on his feet whole game. I don't think it is possible for the best actors in Europe not to bring there "A" dvies

[MartyMarts]

I usually support whoever Man U is playing against ;)
I used to consider myself a Barcelona fan but with their antics regarding Cesc and their really poor sportsmanship when things aren't going their way on the pitch I might find myself supporting Man U :erm:

But yeah, I'm with Tarantula - I'm pretty neutral on this one and just hoping for a fair & entertaining game.

@dbecks: A big :D at your sig dude.

[dbecks]

I usually support whoever Man U is playing against ;)
I used to consider myself a Barcelona fan but with their antics regarding Cesc and their really poor sportsmanship when things aren't going their way on the pitch I might find myself supporting Man U :erm:

But yeah, I'm with Tarantula - I'm pretty neutral on this one and just hoping for a fair & entertaining game.

@dbecks: A big :D at your sig dude.Yeah this Barca team has loss supporters just as quickly as they have gained them with their recent antics

Thanks....:D

[nivek]

Its a tough one, I really dont want to see United picking up another trophy, but then when I remind myself about Cantera's existence supporting Barcelona becomes impossible, nevermind the Cesc saga, and the fact that they're a bunch of classless ****ers

[dbecks]

Its a tough one, I really dont want to see United picking up another trophy, but then when I remind myself about Cantera's existence supporting Barcelona becomes impossible, nevermind the Cesc saga, and the fact that they're a bunch of classless ****ersYour hatred for them burns ever so bright....:D

[nivek]

Your hatred for them burns ever so bright....:D

They could learn a lot from United about how to be winners and carry themselves off the pitch (with the exception of Giggs, Rooney and Evra ofcourse)

[Stickfigure]

They could learn a lot from United about how to be winners and carry themselves off the pitch (with the exception of Giggs, Rooney and Evra ofcourse)

Well Dani Alves did get himself carried off the pitch on a stretcher with a "broken" leg.

[dbecks]

Well Dani Alves did get himself carried off the pitch on a stretcher with a "broken" leg.The same leg he used to sprint back on the pitch with...

[craigdoepie]

Your hatred for them burns ever so bright....:D

My HATRED for Utd is just a bit too much. As much as I hate the antics of Barca, I just can't see myself supporting Utd or wanting Utd to win. I will congratulate them on a win if they deserve, but can't support them

[nivek]

ArsenalMedTeam Not Arsenal Med Team
We really regret letting Barca use our training facilities now - can't have our Friday swim as they've booked the pool for diving practice.
LOL!

[CharReaper]

As much as we all hate the diving part of their game ,let's be hnest ,they play some superb out of this world football at the end of the day

[nivek]

Choosing which team to support ultimately comes down to choosing who is the bigger ****, Evra or Cantera

[smokey]

@nivek - United it is then. Scummy scumbag scum Barca is.

[phiber]

There is talk we are interested in Falcao. If we are offloading Bendtner why not? Not enough defender talk yet...

Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/923670/arsenal-and-spurs-want-L26m-falcao---agent?cc=3888)

[Tarantula]

There is talk we are interested in Falcao. If we are offloading Bendtner why not? Not enough defender talk yet...

Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/923670/arsenal-and-spurs-want-L26m-falcao---agent?cc=3888)

26 million? Unlikely..

Good player though.

[phiber]

26 million? Unlikely..

Good player though.

Rumours are we can dump Bendtner for about 8 or 9, thats 1/3 of the way there :P 26 Mil is a lot though we should have the money available to us.

[MartyMarts]

Arsenal spend 26 million Queen heads on one player? I just can't fathom that.

[sh4rpz]

Good article/blog about Arsenal's transfer kitty: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/05/arsenals-transfer-budget.html

[RexxGrim]

Good article/blog about Arsenal's transfer kitty: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/05/arsenals-transfer-budget.html

Haha, was just reading that. Got a massive headache now and my eyes are bleeding. Will continue later. :D

Whats the bottemline, are we broke?

[sh4rpz]

Haha, was just reading that. Got a massive headache now and my eyes are bleeding. Will continue later. :D

Whats the bottemline, are we broke?

Not quite. Probably between 30-40m pound to spend - but due to the fact we didn't sell any players in the last 12 months and spent the bulk of the Ade/Toure cash on Arshavin+Kos+Squillaci+contract renewals, it would have been better if we finished in the top 3 as opposed to 4th - where we now find ourselves having to raise the ticket prices etc. to help with the running costs until the new season gets going (probably after player purchases too).

Also, the article suggests what most of us have been saying for a while, selling Denilson and Bendtner and maybe AA23 and any other dead wood (add Diaby and Eboue into that with Clichy) is vital to lowering the overall wage bill and allowing Arsenal to step in for a blockbuster signing or two.

Your move, Arsene.

[Tarantula]

Whats the story with Nasri? Contract negotiations were meant to happen in Jan, but then it was decided that it would happen post season i.e. now. Saw on Supersport Blitz this morning that contract negotiations have stalled. This is quite concerning.

At this moment in time, it seems much more likely that Nasri will be the one leaving rather than Cesc. I really don't want to hear another Flamini, A$shley Cole story.

EDIT: Arsene speaking on French radio last night:


About the possible departures of Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasir, Wenger said:

"Fabregas will not go this summer. Last summer,Barcelona made offers, but on this one there is no offers at all. He's the best midfielder in the world, we built the team with him around him. He's our captain, we want to keep him at any cost.

"Regarding Nasri, one thing is absolutely sure, that we will not sell him to Manchester United. We have a financial disagreement with the player, and I will work on it during the summer, to ensure he will extend his contract."

[MartyMarts]

WENGER SPEAKS ON NASRI, FABREGAS, STRIKERS AND A NEW DEFENDER
Some interesting remarks by Arsene Wenger, speaking on French radio, when discussing Arsenal's summer plans.

First, some good and bad news about Samir Nasri. The bad is that Wenger has confirmed there is a "financial disagreement" about his proposed new deal, which is why he hasn't signed it - yet. The good is that the issue isn't ambition so there's still a good chance he will sign it.

Oooooh a low blow tsk tsk

Wenger went on to categorically rule out selling Nasri to Manchester United and has also insisted that there Barcelona haven't expressed any interest in signing Cesc Fabregas. Well, that's probably because they've been too busy up until now in actually winning things, Arsene.

"Barcelona were interested last year in Cesc but not this year. For me, he's the world's best midfielder. He's our captain. We've built the team around him. Of course we want to keep him," said the Arsenal manager.

Wenger also added some fuel to the speculation that he is interested in recruiting Karim Benzema and/or Ivory Coast forward Gervinho by refusing to deny as much - "Benzema? Gervinho? Both are very interesting players. Everyone is always looking to reinforce their attack" - and then caused a bit of a stir by confirming he wants to sign an experienced Premier League defender.

Here's the quote confirming as much: "We're also after an experienced defender, maybe one who is already used to life in the Premier League. That has been our weakness."

Oh, and in other Arsenal-related news, the agent of Nicolas Bendtner says that he is confident his client will attract an offer in excess of £10m - which we're now presuming is the price-tag the Gunners have attached to the Dane. Hopefully literally.

SAUCE (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_6961629,00.html)

[poffle]

According to SkySports.

"Nasri not ruling out United"
Arsenal ace Samir Nasri has refused to rule out a possible move to Manchester United

"BENDTNER CONFIRMS EXIT WISH"
Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner admits that he is '100 per cent' ready to leave this summer.

Nasri situation is :( Bender Situation is :D :) :D :)

[RexxGrim]

According to SkySports.

"Nasri not ruling out United"
Arsenal ace Samir Nasri has refused to rule out a possible move to Manchester United

"BENDTNER CONFIRMS EXIT WISH"
Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner admits that he is '100 per cent' ready to leave this summer.

Nasri situation is :( Bender Situation is :D :) :D :)

Its all still rumours. The Nasri one is a classic. Q: Are you going to United? A: I don't rule out any moves. :[Headline] Nasri off to United.

The one thing that is a concern is that all the rumours so far is about players leaving. You don't see any made up stories of players coming to us. Maybe the media has finally given up on Arsene. Has making up a story about Arsene signing a decent player just become to far fetched to try and put up as the truth.

Anyway, as I've said before. If we sell any of our players to our rivals I am going to be really pissed off.

[sh4rpz]

1st signing of the summer confirmed: http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/carl-jenkinson-joins-arsenal

Youngsters Benik Afobe, Chuks Aneke and Oguzhan also signed new deals keeping them at the club for the foreseeable future.

[sh4rpz]

An article to whet the appetite a little bit: http://news.arseblog.com/index.php/2011/06/brady-there-will-be-a-lot-of-business-done-this-year/

Just by the by: Arseblog's new Arseblog News micro site is where you can find the latest Arsenal news, in case you missed it: http://news.arseblog.com/

[mmmig]

Ever since after the ECL final against Barca there is a common denominator- poor defence, Arsenal will not win any until Wenger sort out the defence especially GK

[fishfly]

lmao is this arsenal's policy? signing lots!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/926778/arsenal-sign-teenage-charlton-defender-carl-jenkinson?cc=3888

[RexxGrim]

lmao is this arsenal's policy? signing lots!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/926778/arsenal-sign-teenage-charlton-defender-carl-jenkinson?cc=3888

I don't understand your question. We signed a 19 year old and renewed the contract of 3 other players with potential. I am sure Man United has the same policies or do they not sign young players and renew contract of players they think has potential.

[Tarantula]

I don't understand your question. We signed a 19 year old and renewed the contract of 3 other players with potential. I am sure Man United has the same policies or do they not sign young players and renew contract of players they think has potential.

They did sign Bebe last year. Going by that level of young talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see Justin Bieber wearing the red of Manchester next season!

[Randhir]

They did sign Bebe last year. Going by that level of young talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see Justin Bieber wearing the red of Manchester next season!

Also Hernandez and Smalling.

[RexxGrim]

lmao is this arsenal's policy? signing lots!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/926778/arsenal-sign-teenage-charlton-defender-carl-jenkinson?cc=3888

So United is on the verge of signing Phil Jones, 19 year old defender from Rovers. :erm:

[Tarantula]

Also Hernandez and Smalling.

23 and soon to be 22 years old respectively. Hardly youth signings. Hernandez is a year younger than Fabregas! If Nasri does the unmentionable and moves to United will he also be a "youth" signing? He is same age as Hernandez.

[Randhir]

They did sign Bebe last year. Going by that level of young talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see Justin Bieber wearing the red of Manchester next season!


23 and soon to be 22 years old respectively. Hardly youth signings. Hernandez is a year younger than Fabregas! If Nasri does the unmentionable and moves to United will he also be a "youth" signing? He is same age as Hernandez.

You said young talent, not youth signings. Besides which, Bebe is a month shy of 21 himself.

[Tarantula]

You said young talent, not youth signings. Besides which, Bebe is a month shy of 21 himself.

I had to mention talent, as there is a clear lack of it in Bieber and Bebe-r? Youth signings are critical. Look at the Da Silva twins, signed as youths, and looks like Fabio might be the successor to the longest serving RB United has ever had?

Fishfly laughing at Arsenal signing a 19 year old defender is ****ing stupid. Let's spend 30 million on a player like Berbatov rather so he can't warm the bench.

[fishfly]

I don't understand your question. We signed a 19 year old and renewed the contract of 3 other players with potential. I am sure Man United has the same policies or do they not sign young players and renew contract of players they think has potential.

I was wonder if Arsenal's new signing will only be for young players and no one established... if AW is targeting trophies and bemoaning about lack of experience to make that final push, signing youngsters hasn't paid off for the last 3-4 years

[RexxGrim]

http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/06/interview-the-low-down-on-carl-jenkinson/

Some more info in our latest signing. Not sure what to make of it, but there is some interesting comments on the article as well.

[Tarantula]

Gervinho decides to join Arsenal


It looks like the Lille striker Gervinho has decided he is going to join Arsenal. The 24 year-old Ivory Coast international has just won the French Ligue 1 Championship and French Cup Double with Lille and has been linked with Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle United since the end of the season.

But the reason I believe that he has decided to join Arsenal is quite simple. He has earned the right to play in the Champions League with Lille, and just a month ago was quoted as saying: “At the end of the season, me and my advisors will speak to the club and see what to do but if I am leaving a club which will play in the Champions League, I will only go to one who is in the Champions League.

“It’s the best competition and I want to be a part of that set-up every year.”

Well today Gervinho has announced that he has made a decision. He was quoted as saying: “I have made my mind up,” he said. “I will soon meet the club and let them know, but they understand my feelings that I want to prove myself in a top league in Europe.

“My agents are moving things as I want, people know where my future lies, it is in England.”

So how many clubs out of Arsenal, Newcastle and Liverpool are going to be in the Champions League next season?

It seems perfectly clear to me that Wenger has found the perfect replcement for Nicklas Bendtner……

http://justarsenal.com/gervinho-decides-to-join-arsenal/8342?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Randhir]

Gervinho decides to join Arsenal

He's a good player. But imagine how fast he'd be without that forehead causing aerodynamic problems :D

I remember him from the WC, he played really well. As for replacing Bendtner, he's more comfortable on the wing. Speedy too...

[RexxGrim]

He's a good player. But imagine how fast he'd be without that forehead causing aerodynamic problems :D

I remember him from the WC, he played really well. As for replacing Bendtner, he's more comfortable on the wing. Speedy too...

So we're replacing a player with a "big head" figuratively speaking, with one that has a big head literally speaking. Seems to make perfect sense. :p

Don't know the player so can't really comment, but if he is a winger/forward it would be an improvement. Scored 25 goals in 52 odd games last season, so its seems that he can actually shoot, which would make him better than Chamakh by default and Bentner was never really comfortable on the wing.

Seems Arsenal had their bid for Phil Jones accepted, but the player chose United. On the face of it, it might seem like bad news and United put one over on us, but from were I am standing its good news. Arsene making a bid of 16mil for a 19 year old player does show some form of intent. That is close to our transfer record iirc.

Has Wenger finally dusted off the cheque book?

[Tarantula]

He's a good player. But imagine how fast he'd be without that forehead causing aerodynamic problems :D

I remember him from the WC, he played really well. As for replacing Bendtner, he's more comfortable on the wing. Speedy too...

LOL! Only concern is he is African, so will be disappearing off to the ANC during January (usually a critical part of the season). Other than that, would be a great replacement for Nik B.




Seems Arsenal had their bid for Phil Jones accepted, but the player chose United. On the face of it, it might seem like bad news and United put one over on us, but from were I am standing its good news. Arsene making a bid of 16mil for a 19 year old player does show some form of intent. That is close to our transfer record iirc.

Has Wenger finally dusted off the cheque book?

Interesting. I also heard they had submitted a bid for both Jones and Samba as a combo deal. Personally, I have my heart set on Samba. He is everything Arsenal is lacking. He is tall and big. He has EPL experience. He is commanding in the air in both an attacking and defending sense. He doesn't have the best technical skill, but we have plenty of that.

[sh4rpz]

Don't know how you guys feel about it - but justarsenal.com is a terrible blog/site.

[RexxGrim]

Don't know how you guys feel about it - but justarsenal.com is a terrible blog/site.

I don't read that site so can't comment. I basically only read 2 blogs.

Arseblog for me has the most balanced opinion on things Arsenal and I really enjoy the guy's writing style.

I also read Le Grove which has a much more Anti-Arsene slant, but they do make some fair comments from time to time and often come up with some inside info.

[sh4rpz]

So, United apparently closing in on Samir Nasri. I think there's a bit of truth to it - although with Man U in talks with Villa over Ashley Young and having already signed Jones, I doubt Nasri is their number 1 target. They will probably come in with a 10m GBP bid if he doesn't sign a new deal by at least next week. However, I think the agent is being a bit naughty and trying to put some pressure on Arsenal to see what they do about United's apparent 'interest'. Will Arsene offer a better deal to Nasri? Probably. Will he accept? 50-50.

Some promising news at last is we're in talks for Hazard:
http://news.arseblog.com/index.php/2011/06/exclusive-arsenal-make-contact-with-lille-for-hazard/

[poffle]

Heard on the radio this morning, rumours are that some-one is going to make a shock bid for Clichy and also fabregas is free to go to any non-english club.

[hawker]

Heard on the radio this morning, rumours are that some-one is going to make a shock bid for Clichy and also fabregas is free to go to any non-english club.

Reports are that Cameolli is keen for Liverpool to sign clichy but Kenny isn't. That could possibly be it?

[RexxGrim]

Reports are that Cameolli is keen for Liverpool to sign clichy but Kenny isn't. That could possibly be it?

Thats what most of the papers are reporting this morning. Not sure about who's idea it is, but seem like Liverpool is being linked to Clichy.

[Randhir]

Thats what most of the papers are reporting this morning. Not sure about who's idea it is, but seem like Liverpool is being linked to Clichy.

Why would you guys do that to them?

:p

[RexxGrim]

Why would you guys do that to them?

:p

Clichy is hardly a world beater, but we've go no backup in this position. Gibbs is injured half the time and is hardly proven. Still don't like the idea of selling our players to rivals unless of coarse its Denilson, Almunia or Squillaci.

[Alan]

A meeting took place in Manchester between third parties hoping to broker a deal for the 23-year-old French international who has just one year left on his contract at Arsenal and, according to sources close to him, has signalled his intention to leave.

The development is another blow for Arsenal. On Wednesday, they missed out to United in the race to sign defender Phil Jones and there were suggestions last night that Barcelona are set to rekindle their long-standing interest in Cesc Fabregas.

While Fabregas's return to Catalonia has been long anticipated, Nasri's departure would be almost as great a blow. It is understood that the Frenchman has already been offered, by intermediaries, to Chelsea but that Roman Abramovich is concentrating on signing Luka Modric from Tottenham Hotspur instead.

Nasri wants to stay in England, and continue to play in the Premier League, and despite talk that Manchester City may also make a bid it seems that if he leaves Arsenal he will go to Manchester United. The talks are still at a preliminary stage, and no official contact has been made between the two clubs.

To add to Arsenal’s problems, Liverpool have made a £5 million bid for their left-back, Gael Clichy. While Arsène Wenger would be prepared to countenance that sale, with Kieran Gibbs waiting in reserve, he is desperate for Nasri to stay.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8567010/Manchester-United-make-their-move-to-sign-French-midfielder-Samir-Nasri-from-rivals-Arsenal.html

[poolmania]

What I understand about the situation is that Clichy has 1 year left on his contract and he has already told Arsene that he wants off. Liverpool has definitely made a bid of 5 million but I think they know it will be rejected. I reckon they making this move as a smokescreen.

[Alan]

I hope it is

[poolmania]

I hope it is

You don't rate Clichy?

[Randhir]

You don't rate Clichy?

You do? There've been so many goals that Arsenal conceded that were a direct result of his positioning and failling to keep the offside trap line stable. Not too intelligent.

[Alan]

You don't rate Clichy?

not particularly. Good player but not good enough to fill the LB slot of a team with title aspirations IMO

I'd take him as a squad player. Him at LB and Johnson at RB would make for an impressive offensive formation against middle to lower table clubs

[poolmania]

You do? There've been so many goals that Arsenal conceded that were a direct result of his positioning and failling to keep the offside trap line stable. Not too intelligent.

I don't really rate him highly, but I do think he has his moments. He has pace, still youngish, time for Clark to condition him. Something different for us on the left than we've had for a long while. Put it this way, I'd rather have Clichy than Enrique.

[poolmania]

not particularly. Good player but not good enough to fill the LB slot of a team with title aspirations IMO

I'd take him as a squad player. Him at LB and Johnson at RB would make for an impressive offensive formation against middle to lower table clubs

That sums it up for me i think.

[poolmania]

The question is:

Clichy or Enrique?

Who is better?

[poolmania]

@OptaJoe: 111 - Gael Clichy made more tackles than any other full back in the 2010-11 Premier League. Combative.

[Randhir]

@OptaJoe: 111 - Gael Clichy made more tackles than any other full back in the 2010-11 Premier League. Combative.

That's purely because of Arshavin and his non-defensive attitude, which meant that Clichy had more attacks coming down the left and therefore had to make tackles.

[RexxGrim]

Arsenal board having a Q & A with supporters tonight. Here is some twitter accounts of supporters that will be there if you are hard up for Arsenal news. Not sure what time it starts though.

@legrove
@gingers4limpar
@10akhil
@littleDutchVA

Rumour has it that Wenger will be making bids for 3 players this week. Just a rumour, but then its on par with what we read in the media anyway.

[sh4rpz]

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/arsenal/arsenal/arsenal_on_verge_of_capturing_highly_rated_centre_ back_1_919041

Is Samba the defender we really need?

[Tarantula]

Arsenal board having a Q & A with supporters tonight. Here is some twitter accounts of supporters that will be there if you are hard up for Arsenal news. Not sure what time it starts though.

@legrove
@gingers4limpar
@10akhil
@littleDutchVA

Rumour has it that Wenger will be making bids for 3 players this week. Just a rumour, but then its on par with what we read in the media anyway.

Bids on whom? My guess: Gervinho, Oxlade Chamberlain and Chris Samba. Which CB Wenger wants is a bit of a mystery. Talk of Cahill, Samba, Dann, Johnson, Varane.. it's never ending.

[Tarantula]

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/arsenal/arsenal/arsenal_on_verge_of_capturing_highly_rated_centre_ back_1_919041

Is Samba the defender we really need?

Absolutely. He is everything we are missing at the moment.

[RexxGrim]

Bids on whom? My guess: Gervinho, Oxlade Chamberlain and Chris Samba. Which CB Wenger wants is a bit of a mystery. Talk of Cahill, Samba, Dann, Johnson, Varane.. it's never ending.

I've got no idea on whom. Arsene has always tried to keep things under cover when it comes to transfers. The rumours is from Tim Payton of the Arsenal Supporters Trust on twitter. It only states that we would be making bids on 3 players this week. I assume that its for the first team and not teenagers for the academy. We'll have to wait and see.

I am on the fence about Samba. Atleast with him you know what you'll get. A decent defender with Prem exp who can be a handful in the other box. Won't be a train smash if we sign him imo.

[mmmig]

Absolutely. He is everything we are missing at the moment.
That's where you wrong one thing samba is not is a GK thats something we need more than a new CB

[Tarantula]

That's where you wrong one thing samba is not is a GK thats something we need more than a new CB

Heh, I am happy with Szczesny to be honest. Although I guess we've been used to terrible Almunia for the last 3 years. Also, Samba can be used as striker for when RVP is injured! :P

[Mach III]

I hope we sign Gervinho, and keep Nasri...

[RexxGrim]

Blackburn already lost a defender, its difficult to believe they will be happy losing another. Iirc his contract runs until 2014 so they are not under pressure to sell.

The sentiment is that Arsenal needs a "Scary/Angry" defender so imo the media is just looking at who fits the profile and running with that.

[Korn1]

Blackburn already lost a defender, its difficult to believe they will be happy losing another. Iirc his contract runs until 2014 so they are not under pressure to sell.

The sentiment is that Arsenal needs a "Scary/Angry" defender so imo the media is just looking at who fits the profile and running with that.

I all the top clubs should rather buy from any other club than Blackburn :D

[GRBoy]

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/arsenal/arsenal/arsenal_on_verge_of_capturing_highly_rated_centre_ back_1_919041

Is Samba the defender we really need?

In my opinion - NO.

Hope we sign Vertonghen, but Wenger may just make a signing such as Samba to keep to stupid english fans happy.

[Alan]

Arsenal defender Bacary Sagna claims club captain Cesc Fabregas wants to join Barcelona this summer, but hopes Samir Nasri will stay at the north London club.

Fabregas has once again been linked with a return to the Catalan club, where he came through the youth ranks before signing for the Gunners in 2003.

Barca have failed to sign their former player in each of the last two summer transfer windows, but Sagna believes it could be a case of third time lucky for the Catalan club.

"I can say it's true that Cesc wants to go to Barca," the right-back told former Paris Saint-Germain coach Luis Fernandez on France's RMC radio station.

"Fabregas wants to return to his country of birth, to his city, where his family are; he wants to play for one of the best teams in the world, Barcelona, and that's understandable.

"At the moment, however, he is still Arsenal's captain."

While Sagna believes Fabregas may leave London, the defender is hopeful Nasri will stay at the English club.

"Samir is happy at Arsenal, but I don't know what the best thing is for his career," he said.

"He has been one of the best players in the team this season and he is one of the symbols of this team. I hope to find him there when we return for (pre-season) training."

Meanwhile, Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis has told his club's fans he shares a "profound disappointment" with them but has promised a busy summer in the transfer market as the club look to end their six-year trophy drought.

What had once looked to be a quadruple bid imploded once the Gunners lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham, and they ended the Premier League season in fourth place.

Another season without success saw some fans voice their unhappiness with manager Arsene Wenger, especially over his apparent reluctance to spend big on new signings.

But at a question and answer session with the Arsenal Supporters Trust on Monday night, Gazidis has pledged to start putting things right.

"Coming off the end of the season, I share with you a sense of profound disappointment," he said.

"It is very clear we had some shortcomings and in this close season we are going to see some turnover of players.

"Some new signings will be coming in and some of our existing squad will be going out. As Arsene has said, it will be a busy close season for the club.

"But also it is important to recognise that it has not been a disaster. We have a young squad and we don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water. The trick will be to identify which parts to keep and which parts to turn over. And we will do that within our financial capabilities."

:erm:

[RexxGrim]

:erm:

Everyone knows Cesc wants to go to Barca, thats no secret. What Sagna said is true and I don't have a real issue with it. The thing that I have an issue with is Arsenal players making comments about Cesc. No matter what they say, it will be sensationalized by the media, so imo it would be better to just go with the "no comment" line when quized about Cesc.

As far as the Cesc transfer saga goes. The facts for me are clear. He wants to play for Barca oneday, but he is prepared to wait and he bases his decisions around this on what is best for Arsenal and there fans. Massive respect for a 23 year old footballer with this amount of loyalty to his club.

If Barca comes up with the money, then I am sure Arsenal will sell him and use the money to try and replace him. Barca wants him on the cheap and wants Cesc to come out in public and request a transfer which would drop his price significantly. Currently Cesc is not prepared to do this.

If you look a some other footballers recently ***cought*** Torres ***cough*** then you've got to have some respect for the way he is dealing with the whole thing.

[GRBoy]

Anyone who still does not believe that the EPL matches are fixed should read this series of articles with lots of stats:

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/match-fixing

[MR.C]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/football/13778733.stm

[nivek]

Gervinho seems to be a done deal

[Randhir]

Anyone who still does not believe that the EPL matches are fixed should read this series of articles with lots of stats:

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/match-fixing

I love it when you whine :D Really makes my day :D

[GRBoy]

I love it when you whine :D Really makes my day :D

Typical manure response. Ignore the facts - focus on the person. Shows up your character, or should I say lack thereof.

[Randhir]

Typical manure response. Ignore the facts - focus on the person. Shows up your character, or should I say lack thereof.

More please :D

[GRBoy]

More please :D

Now ask someone to read the articles to you, because to expect you to read anything containing more than two sentences (other than republicofmancunia) is probably not realistic. bye-bye

Here is the link again for the arsenal fans. A series of articles well worth reading. http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/match-fixing They are busy with an in-depth analysis of every game played in the EPL this year. The article suggests that the current situation is very similar to what happened in Serie A a few years ago and provides lots of statistical evidence, with more to come.

[Randhir]

Now ask someone to read the articles to you, because to expect you to read anything containing more than two sentences (other than republicofmancunia) is probably not realistic. bye-bye

Here is the link again for the arsenal fans. A series of articles well worth reading. http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/match-fixing They are busy with an in-depth analysis of every game played in the EPL this year. The article suggests that the current situation is very similar to what happened in Serie A a few years ago and provides lots of statistical evidence, with more to come.

Sour grapes.. I'm sure match fixing was the reason Arsenal didn't win the EPL :rolleyes:

[GRBoy]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.

[Randhir]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.

Cool story bro. Have a good day.

[Stickfigure]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.

Ok

[nivek]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.

I know plenty United fans that aren't dicks.. in fact I think once you cool down you'll realise you do too

[hawker]

I know plenty United fans that aren't dicks.. in fact I think once you cool down you'll realise you do too

+1

I'm a Liverpool fan and some of my good mates are Man Utd fans. Generally true man Utd supporters arent dicks. The glory supporters that support man Utd are scum. Nothing worse. Them and glory chelsea supporters.

[Randhir]

I know plenty United fans that aren't dicks.. in fact I think once you cool down you'll realise you do too

It's been about 6 months already :) I think maybe once he reaches puberty.

[nivek]

+1

I'm a Liverpool fan and some of my good mates are Man Utd fans. Generally true man Utd supporters arent dicks. The glory supporters that support man Utd are scum. Nothing worse. Them and glory chelsea supporters.

All glory supporters are ****s, shallow mingey ****s
The flavour of the month is Barcelona tho, you see them everywhere

[smokey]

+1

I'm a Liverpool fan and some of my good mates are Man Utd fans. Generally true man Utd supporters arent dicks. The glory supporters that support man Utd are scum. Nothing worse. Them and glory chelsea supporters.

hate those... then again, any new supporters for any club are generally dip****s.

[smokey]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.

It took me around 5 years to meet a decent Liverpool supporter. I never thought they were all prats though.

EDIT: I didn't automatically think that they would all be prats. Just for clarification.

[hawker]

All glory supporters are ****s, shallow mingey ****s
The flavour of the month is Barcelona tho, you see them everywhere

+1

Evertbody loves Barca all of a sudden. A few years ago nobody even really knew about them.

People are fickle.

"You can change your wife, your religion, your job, your name, but you can never ever change your favourite football team" - I think Bill Shankly said something like that, I might speak under correction though.

[MR.C]

+1

Evertbody loves Barca all of a sudden. A few years ago nobody even really knew about them.

Please enlighten us, how old are you ? Really ? Honestly ?

[Kaleb]

Twitter rumours are saying Arsenal have contacted Inter Milan about Eto'o. And that Inter are interested in Nasri and/or Bendtner being included in any potential deal.

[dbecks]

Just an aside to the Arsenal fans. Do you know any manure fans in real life who are not ass-holes? It may be just my bad luck, but I have never met one in my life who is not a complete d**s. Normally I can even exchange banter with the spuds, have close friends who are 'pool supporters, and a few Geordies, and a very good friend who has supported Chelsea his whole life. There is something about manure fans which tells me that they are born like that, it is not something that happens to you once you become a manure fan. That is how they are, nothing can be done about it.Pot and kettle comes to mind...

EDIT: If i use your words, its like the Pr**ks calling the C**ks, D**ks.....:D

[smokey]

Pot and kettle comes to mind...

EDIT: If i use your words, its like the Pr**ks calling the C**ks, D**ks.....:D

Classic dbecks right there :)

[mmmig]

All glory supporters are ****s, shallow mingey ****s
The flavour of the month is Barcelona tho, you see them everywhere
One thing for there are no glory supporters ligering in this thread, the only the die hard Arsenal supporters remain.

[RexxGrim]

One thing for there are no glory supporters ligering in this thread, the only the die hard Arsenal supporters remain.

Did someone call me? :p

I hear the Barca president is trying out for last comic standing. He seems to think Cesc is worth less than last year. They bid 30mil odd for him last year so by his logic he must be cheaper this year. Apparently its due to wear and tear.

[dbecks]

Classic dbecks right there :)Thats how I roll...:cool:

[GRBoy]

The manure seems to be keen on Nasri - Don't you all agree that it would be a good idea to let him go to them - in exchange for Howard Webb and one other, perhaps Chris Foy? Not sure we can afford their salaries, but it should not be too much higher than what Nasri is apparently demanding.

[Randhir]

The manure seems to be keen on Nasri - Don't you all agree that it would be a good idea to let him go to them - in exchange for Howard Webb and one other, perhaps Chris Foy? Not sure we can afford their salaries, but it should not be too much higher than what Nasri is apparently demanding.

I think you're a closet United supporter. I can't remember the last time you made a post that didn't involve United or their fans.

It's like those Republican senators who denounce homosexuality repeatedly then are found out to be having an affair with their male intern.

[MR.C]

The manure seems to be keen on Nasri - Don't you all agree that it would be a good idea to let him go to them - in exchange for Howard Webb and one other, perhaps Chris Foy? Not sure we can afford their salaries, but it should not be too much higher than what Nasri is apparently demanding.

Nasri is staying, Cesc is staying. Most likely we getting Gervinho AND Samba. We don't need bribery. I hope the E'to story turns out to be true. His world class.
Imagine if we get Sneider also, lol.

[GRBoy]

I think you're a closet United supporter. I can't remember the last time you made a post that didn't involve United or their fans.

Obviously the shoe fits. :D I never mentioned manure here, but hey, you knew didn't you


Anyone who still does not believe that the EPL matches are fixed should read this series of articles with lots of stats:

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/match-fixing

I hope you all took the trouble to read the articles though. Irrefutable.

[Tarantula]

Twitter rumours are saying Arsenal have contacted Inter Milan about Eto'o. And that Inter are interested in Nasri and/or Bendtner being included in any potential deal.

Hardly a transfer window goes by without us being linked to Eto'o. Personally I think he is over rated and thus over priced. AW looks for the under rated and under priced.

[hawker]

Please enlighten us, how old are you ? Really ? Honestly ?

I'm not talking about people like you and me. (People who actually know about football).

I'm referring to people who supported Man Utd, then Real Madrid all of a sudden (David Beckham) - those kind of fans.

[smokey]

I'm not talking about people like you and me. (People who actually know about football).

I'm referring to people who supported Man Utd, then Real Madrid all of a sudden (David Beckham) - those kind of fans.

dbecks turned out alright... ;)

Sent from my LG-P350 using MyBroadband Android App

[phiber]

Peter Hill Wood has confirmed that Barca have made contact about signing Fabregas, but they have put in a bid yet... Blackburn have gone on record saying they will try their best to hangon to Samba. Wonder whats going to happen... There was a lot of talk on Wednesday that Wenger is close to announcing his first big signing of the window, i am yet to see a name dropped.

Got quite a tough start to the season as well, but then the way we play there are no easy games, we seem to make every game a difficult one. Doesn't seem to be any offers for Bendtner or Denilson either, would love to see them sold soon, rather than offloading them for cheap late in the window.

[Tarantula]

Supposed away shirt leaked...

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/arsenal-away-shirt-1.jpg

It is certainly different if real.

[Stickfigure]

So looks like Barca are signing Sanchez which means Cesc is an Arsenal player for atleast another season.

[dbecks]

So looks like Barca are signing Sanchez which means Cesc is an Arsenal player for atleast another season.How did they get that right!

[fishfly]

strange away shirts coming out this season...

[Tarantula]

I'm getting a little bit ancy about the lack of transfers thus far for Arsenal. Wenger cut his holiday short to attend to some transfer matters, but I have seen no fruit of this. I know we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and Wenger is usually secretive about his transfer targets, but c'mon! Arsenal are the one team that needed to dive into the transfer market asap. United have already signed Jones, and Arsenal - 1 youth player. This is shaping up for another typical Arsenal transfer window comprising of endless negotiations, almost signings and rumours with no substance.

Seems Taarabt rates himself as Fabregas' replacement. Big difference between the Championship and the Champions League bro. Barton has also been a surprise rumour. For 1.5 mill, I would go for it. Song does not have any competition for his place so it makes sense. Also, Barton is a little bit of a p0es, which Arsenal are lacking. Probably crap though, and Wenger's true target is an unheard of Frenchman in the second division of the French league.

The Nasri rumours seemed to have died down, and from what he and Wenger has said it is likely he will stay. Thats a reason to be optimistic I suppose.

[phiber]

Potential Champions league qualifying games


In that scenario, Arsenal’s potential Play-Off opponents are Dynamo Kyiv, Udinese, Panathinaikos, Twente or Standard Liege.

We'll update this page as the picture becomes clearer ahead of the draw for the Play-Off Round on August 5.

[Bulit]

How did they get that right!

With 33 Million Pounds/Euros (not sure)!

[dbecks]

With 33 Million Pounds/Euros (not sure)!B@stards...so where is he gonna feature - the bench:D

[sh4rpz]

I'm getting a little bit ancy about the lack of transfers thus far for Arsenal. Wenger cut his holiday short to attend to some transfer matters, but I have seen no fruit of this. I know we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and Wenger is usually secretive about his transfer targets, but c'mon! Arsenal are the one team that needed to dive into the transfer market asap. United have already signed Jones, and Arsenal - 1 youth player. This is shaping up for another typical Arsenal transfer window comprising of endless negotiations, almost signings and rumours with no substance.

Seems Taarabt rates himself as Fabregas' replacement. Big difference between the Championship and the Champions League bro. Barton has also been a surprise rumour. For 1.5 mill, I would go for it. Song does not have any competition for his place so it makes sense. Also, Barton is a little bit of a p0es, which Arsenal are lacking. Probably crap though, and Wenger's true target is an unheard of Frenchman in the second division of the French league.

The Nasri rumours seemed to have died down, and from what he and Wenger has said it is likely he will stay. Thats a reason to be optimistic I suppose.

Word is Arsenal have done their business already, but are waiting till 1st July to announce/conclude them. Whether or not this is down to contracts of players expiring on June 29th/30th, therefore changing the players value, I'm not entirely sure - but something along those lines.

PS: took Man United 3 weeks to tie up the Jones/De Gea deals, of which the Jones deal was touch-and-go for some time until he actually was confirmed signed. Many players want to fulfill their contracts right down to the second so that they avoid disputes with thir old clubs and agents.

[sh4rpz]

Supposed away shirt leaked...

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/arsenal-away-shirt-1.jpg

It is certainly different if real.

This is the confirmed shirt for 2011/12 season - with the lighter blue / sky blue as the shorts and socks as well.

It's time we moved back to Adidas if you ask me.

[Randhir]

Arsenal reject £27m bid from Barcelona for Cesc Fábregas (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/24/arsenal-barcelona-cesc-fabregas)


Arsenal have turned down an offer from Barcelona for their captain, Cesc Fábregas, according to reports last night. The bid is reported by the Sun and Telegraph to be worth £27m and is said to have been rejected out of hand.

The Spanish club had been expected to make a renewed attempt to sign Fábregas, who began his career at Camp Nou, after having offers rejected last summer. It is anticipated that they will return with an improved bid but they have stated that they will not pay more than £35m for the midfielder.

Their president, Sandro Rosell, spelt out the club's position and claimed this week that Fábregas was doing "all he can" to join Pep Guardiola's Spanish and European champions.

"Guardiola knows the values of players and Cesc's is less than €40m (£35.4m)," Rosell said. "Barcelona will offer less and, if they don't accept, then he won't come."

[nivek]

Arsenal reject £27m bid from Barcelona for Cesc Fábregas (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/24/arsenal-barcelona-cesc-fabregas)

Barcelona wanting to eat at the meat company when all they can really afford is mcdonalds

[Randhir]

Barcelona wanting to eat at the meat company when all they can really afford is mcdonalds

+1.

Although Tim Stillman (http://arseblog.com/2011/06/methadone-and-forehead-insurance/) makes a good point:


Barca realise that Fabregas’ contract with Arsenal is still strong. Barca also realise that they have no urgent need for Fabregas as yet with the axis of Iniesta and Xavi still going strong and providing a midfield symbiosis unmatched in world football. That they’re about to splurge the majority of their transfer budget on Alexis Sanchez proves that Fabregas is not yet their priority. Besides which, their team is already the finished article as it is. They’re also canny enough to know what everyone else knows – Cesc doesn’t want to leave for any other club.

Barca are playing the long game here. It’s smoke and mirrors at the moment. They’ll keep dropping sound bites here and there, sounding out the possibility of moving for him without showing concrete intent. That way, they can let Cesc know that that carrot of returning home in his prime is still there, which in turn will probably stop him signing another binding contract with Arsenal. In a year or two, when Xavi’s legs have aged and Fabregas’ contract ticks ominously towards its 2015 expiry, they’ll be in a strong position to do business with us. Any severance they can artificially drive between Cesc and the club in that time will make their bargaining hand all the stronger.

[phiber]

Looks like we signed Ricky Alvarez, attacking Midfielder/Winger...... could this mean we are losing Nasri or Cesc?

[nivek]

+1.

Although Tim Stillman (http://arseblog.com/2011/06/methadone-and-forehead-insurance/) makes a good point:

I read an article which says Cesc is loving London and is fed up with Barcelona, but not sure how accurate it is


Looks like we signed Ricky Alvarez, attacking Midfielder/Winger...... could this mean we are losing Nasri or Cesc?

Nah.. dont think so
Wenger is always signing attacking players :D
its more likely to replace Rosicky

[MR.C]

Looks like we signed Ricky Alvarez, attacking Midfielder/Winger...... could this mean we are losing Nasri or Cesc?

Is it still "looks like" or is it confirmed ?
"Looks like" we also got Samba and E'to

[phiber]

Is it still "looks like" or is it confirmed ?
"Looks like" we also got Samba and E'to

Well the coach of one of the other clubs trying to sign him says he has already signed for Arsenal... Some sites even saying the deal is done and will be anounced 1st July.

[stefan9]

Alvarez on his twitter account has denied signing with anyone.

Latest this evening is that inter has put in a €12 million offer as opposed to arsenal's current €10 million plus bonusses.

[RexxGrim]

The co-writer of Arsenal Blog Le Grove has put up Denilson on E-bay. 74 bids and 15k was the last I saw. Think the auction was closed down though.

[sh4rpz]

The co-writer of Arsenal Blog Le Grove has put up Denilson on E-bay. 74 bids and 15k was the last I saw. Think the auction was closed down though.

haha ye, thought that was quite funny.

Hope it's view with some sense of humour and the poor bloke @ Le Grove doesn't get in trouble for it.

Hopefully some good news on July 1st - at least 2 players expected to be unveiled - that's the story.

[phiber]

WE are being linked to another attacking player... Juan Mata this time. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/930513/arsenal-launch-bid-for-juan-mata?cc=3888

Where are the defenders?

[sh4rpz]

WE are being linked to another attacking player... Juan Mata this time. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/930513/arsenal-launch-bid-for-juan-mata?cc=3888

Where are the defenders?


There is a theory that Arsene feels that the teams strength is generally as an attacking force - he will add defenders - but is freshening up the forward line as we threw away many games last season by not closing out games with missed chances - generally, djourou and koscielny have been good - with vermaelen now fit again, and perhaps one new defender arriving, the competition at the back is healthy and reasonae quality wise.

[Gunner182]

Arsenal say they are ready to sell Cesc for the right price. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/930642/arsenal-willing-to-sell-cesc-fabregas-at-right-price?cc=3888, and I feel Wenger should cash in on Cesc, but if Cesc leaves Nasri would also maybe want to leave. Catch-22

[nivek]

The co-writer of Arsenal Blog Le Grove has put up Denilson on E-bay. 74 bids and 15k was the last I saw. Think the auction was closed down though.

the writers @ legrove are massive twats

[sh4rpz]

BBC radio hitting the airwaves that Barca have upped bid to 34.5m GBP plus a player - they reckon 'non-senior playing staff'.

Apparently Cesc's marketing and sports agency have been busy with Cesc's marketing rights ahead of his proposed move to Barca. I think one more bid and his days as an Arsenal player might be over.

Hope AW has a plan in mind - Ramsey/Wilshere/Song central midfield axis worked well against Man United but will hardly stand up to what could become 60 games over a season.

Oh dear.

Edit:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Arsenal-news-Cesc-Fabregas-says-calm-and-optimistic-as-Gunners-await-improved-Barcelona-offer-article753988.html


Speaking today at a football campus in Tordera, Spain, the 24-year-old was quoted as saying in AS : "I'm calm and I am optimistic. I have nothing to say and there is nothing to speak of. If something happens, it is because it has to happen. "For my part, I've begun to get in shape, which is what I have to do."

He added: "If a player is on the market, it is because the club does not want him. I have no problems."

[poffle]

As tough as it is to say, I think it would be better to eventually get rid of Cesc. Get rid of the burden of him Always been linked to other clubs causing uncertainty in the dressing room , making him play worse etc. Who knows, maybe its the change we've been needing all along

[Tarantula]

As tough as it is to say, I think it would be better to eventually get rid of Cesc. Get rid of the burden of him Always been linked to other clubs causing uncertainty in the dressing room , making him play worse etc. Who knows, maybe its the change we've been needing all along

Cesc moves to Barca, we get 40 mil in the bank. We move Nasri into CAM with upped wages. We invest that cash into the acquisitions of 2 CBs and one quality player to fill the void left by Cesc. Hazard would be my first choice.

It's not the end of the world if Cesc goes. He has had 2 mediocre seasons full of injury. I am also getting bored of this transfer saga.

If he does move to Barca, I hope and pray we draw them in CL for the 3rd season in a row. The difference between Arsenal and Barca over the two legs this past season was the horrific decision to send RVP off. Knocking out a Barca team with Cesc in it will be the sweetest irony.

[Tarantula]

DarrenArsenal1 on Twitter:


Think the 'Cesc Saga' will be concluded today,expect £35mcash, plus no bonus or agent fees -saving £3m, plus FCB win targets, total £40m-ish

[RexxGrim]

The problem with letting Cesc go is what it says about the ambition of Arsenal. So we get 40mil for him. Who do we buy with that. Great players goes to clubs that have great players and ambitions beyond ending 4th in the league.

The only players we can attract is youngsters that know they will get first team action to make a name for themselves. Wenger seems to be banking on the loyalty you can build up if you get them young, but in the end there is no more loyalty in football. As soon as any of these youngster has a good season, they are off.

Nasri had half a good season and a bit of media attention and suddenly developed ambitions. Were was those ambitions to win trophies when we were still in the league with 10 odd games to go.

Anyway we need to lower our expectations. We can't compete with the likes of Chelsea, United, City. We're not in the same league anymore. I mean, we're not even in the market for the same players.

As long as were on our "self sustaining model" we need to except that its going to be tough to compete with clubs thats got the money.

[RexxGrim]

http://lpgpodcast.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/332/

Link to a transcription of Cesc interview. Seems to be a vid attached by my Spanish is a bit rusty and can't access at work.

[Tarantula]

Talk that Clichy could be on his bike to Man City aka the Arsenal junkyard.

[sh4rpz]

Talk that Clichy could be on his bike to Man City aka the Arsenal junkyard.

Hearing deal all but done - medical and all that. Between 7-10m GBP

[sh4rpz]

The problem with letting Cesc go is what it says about the ambition of Arsenal. So we get 40mil for him. Who do we buy with that. Great players goes to clubs that have great players and ambitions beyond ending 4th in the league.

The only players we can attract is youngsters that know they will get first team action to make a name for themselves. Wenger seems to be banking on the loyalty you can build up if you get them young, but in the end there is no more loyalty in football. As soon as any of these youngster has a good season, they are off.

Nasri had half a good season and a bit of media attention and suddenly developed ambitions. Were was those ambitions to win trophies when we were still in the league with 10 odd games to go.

Anyway we need to lower our expectations. We can't compete with the likes of Chelsea, United, City. We're not in the same league anymore. I mean, we're not even in the market for the same players.

As long as were on our "self sustaining model" we need to except that its going to be tough to compete with clubs thats got the money.

Agreed.

[Mach III]

Gervinho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[poffle]

ffs, i really hope this is not true:

Sky Sports sources understand Manchester City are closing in on a £20million swoop for Arsenal star Samir Nasri, while they have also almost completed a deal for Gael Clichy.
losing nasri and cesc = fail arsenal

[RexxGrim]

ffs, i really hope this is not true:

Sky Sports sources understand Manchester City are closing in on a £20million swoop for Arsenal star Samir Nasri, while they have also almost completed a deal for Gael Clichy.
losing nasri and cesc = fail arsenal

We don't have to sell Cesc. Nasri however is a bit more difficult with 1 year on his contract. 20mil for him I'll take and just replace him. Not sure who, but then I don't get paid millions to figure that out.

But yes the way it stands at the moment it doesn't look to rosy.

In: Gervinho +
17 year old "wonderkid" with long name.

Out: Nasri,Cesc, Clichy.

No buyers for: Denilson, Bendtner.

[Tarantula]

We don't have to sell Cesc. Nasri however is a bit more difficult with 1 year on his contract. 20mil for him I'll take and just replace him. Not sure who, but then I don't get paid millions to figure that out.

But yes the way it stands at the moment it doesn't look to rosy.

In: Gervinho +
17 year old "wonderkid" with long name.

Out: Nasri,Cesc, Clichy.

No buyers for: Denilson, Bendtner.

Arsenal needs to reconsider their wage structure. We pay our top players too little and our lesser players too much. The result is the top players wanting out, and our lesser players not prepared to move to another club which will mean lesser wages.

[mmmig]

Wenger might have to go craig bellamy to get rid of bendtner IE pay somebody to take him away on loan

[Tarantula]

http://a.yfrog.com/img620/881/afujd.jpg

hehe.

[poffle]

http://a.yfrog.com/img620/881/afujd.jpg

hehe.

rofl

[RexxGrim]

Going to try and be positive.

So it seems we might sign Gervinho. Anybody know anything about the player. If he can shoot at least I will know he is better than Chamakh. :p Will he play on the left, right of down the middle?

[Tarantula]

Going to try and be positive.

So it seems we might sign Gervinho. Anybody know anything about the player. If he can shoot at least I will know he is better than Chamakh. :p Will he play on the left, right of down the middle?

He is better than Bendtner.

[poffle]

He is better than Bendtner.

My 8 year old niece is better than bendtner. :p
Gervinho seems to be a decent signing, i also hope chamakh has settled nicely now and has his shooting boots on cause that guy CAN be brilliant - hes got the qualities, just needs the training.

[RexxGrim]

I know I am being a bit hard on Chamakh. He has decent qualities. Holds up the ball nicely, can pick a pass etc, I don't have a major problem with him. If he got more service in the form of decent crosses he will be affective. He gives us some different options.

I fear he doesn't have shooting boots and never will. If anyone can link me a video of were he scored a goal outside the box with his feet I would be willing to reconsider my opinion.

Anyway from what I hear Gervinho and Nasri are good mates. Don't know what to read into that, maybe a small glimmer of hope.

As for Nick. After some heroics 2 seasons ago I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he did not use his chances this season. He might improve but he is not good enough at the moment. If he is not willing to develope and wait for chances, he should be off.

More rumours just to lighten the load. RVP has 2 years on his contract and was quoted as saying the he will not renew until he sees what Arsenal do this summer. Apparently on a radio interview. No link, so it might be nonsense.

[Tarantula]

I know I am being a bit hard on Chamakh. He has decent qualities. Holds up the ball nicely, can pick a pass etc, I don't have a major problem with him. If he got more service in the form of decent crosses he will be affective. He gives us some different options.

I fear he doesn't have shooting boots and never will. If anyone can link me a video of were he scored a goal outside the box with his feet I would be willing to reconsider my opinion.

Anyway from what I hear Gervinho and Nasri are good mates. Don't know what to read into that, maybe a small glimmer of hope.

As for Nick. After some heroics 2 seasons ago I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he did not use his chances this season. He might improve but he is not good enough at the moment. If he is not willing to develope and wait for chances, he should be off.

More rumours just to lighten the load. RVP has 2 years on his contract and was quoted as saying the he will not renew until he sees what Arsenal do this summer. Apparently on a radio interview. No link, so it might be nonsense.

Chamakh is very competent in the air. Remember he had a stellar start of the season, so good we actually didn't miss RVP much. When he was benched when RVP returned he seemed to lose all confidence and form. I think it's too early to rate him as a striker in England. This next season will be the yard stick.

If we lose Nasri and Clichy to City, do you think Wenger will reinvest that money straight in replacements for them? I doubt it. This is the biggest concern with Nasri leaving, not the player we are losing, but he will not be replaced with a similiar player with similiar value and experience.

[RexxGrim]

Chamakh is very competent in the air. Remember he had a stellar start of the season, so good we actually didn't miss RVP much. When he was benched when RVP returned he seemed to lose all confidence and form. I think it's too early to rate him as a striker in England. This next season will be the yard stick.

If we lose Nasri and Clichy to City, do you think Wenger will reinvest that money straight in replacements for them? I doubt it. This is the biggest concern with Nasri leaving, not the player we are losing, but he will not be replaced with a similiar player with similiar value and experience.

We haven't replaced any top players that left us in the last few years with the same quality. We sell for 20 and by for 10 (or promote from within). I doubt if both leave we would replace them with the same quality. On the other hand if Nasri leaves I can't see how we can sell Cecs for less than say 60mil. :p

[Mach III]

We haven't replaced any top players that left us in the last few years with the same quality. We sell for 20 and by for 10 (or promote from within). I doubt if both leave we would replace them with the same quality. On the other hand if Nasri leaves I can't see how we can sell Cecs for less than say 60mil. :p

I am hoping that Wenger is planning to keep Fabregas and Nasri, and pin our hopes on the upcoming season. If the season ends and we find that we had won a trophy - or two. Then I doubt Nasri would have a problem re-signing with us, and if we don't he can leave for free. Fabregas will still have a long period left on his contract, and if he plays well - we can sell him for more.

I loved Clichy, he hasn't hit his super form in the last 2 seasons, but he still worked hard every match.

I think we had a really good season up until the end of it. Things could have been a lot different if we had won that Carling Cup Final...

Now we find ourselves with Gibbs in Clichys position - no problem there.
We will have Gervinho up front with RVP - I think that partnership will be out of this world, I have no doubt Gervinho will be an instant success.

Now we just need to work on our shaky defense.
We have Vermaelen back, finally... Something we never had last Season.
Our defence will be solid playing Vermaelen next to Djourou or Koscielny, the only problem will come in if Vermaelen gets injured.
To solve that we need a BIG and STRONG British CB.

[Randhir]

Fabregas will still have a long period left on his contract, and if he plays well - we can sell him for more.


Nope. The longer he stays, the less time he has remaining on his contract, and the less Barca will be inclined to pay for him.



I loved Clichy, he hasn't hit his super form in the last 2 seasons, but he still worked hard every match.


I agree that he isn't a slacker exactly, but he's no president of the brain trust either. I've seen a bunch of times where an attacker has broken through Arsenal's offside trap because Clichy is daydreaming.




Now we find ourselves with Gibbs in Clichys position - no problem there.

Big problem actually. Gibbs is a very talented LB, but he is very very injury prone.



We will have Gervinho up front with RVP - I think that partnership will be out of this world, I have no doubt Gervinho will be an instant success.


Uh oh. You know what happens when you say stuff like that...



Now we just need to work on our shaky defense.
We have Vermaelen back, finally... Something we never had last Season.
Our defence will be solid playing Vermaelen next to Djourou or Koscielny, the only problem will come in if Vermaelen gets injured.
To solve that we need a BIG and STRONG British CB.

I'd play the big strong fella next to Vermaelen. And another plus for you guys is that Sczcezney comes into the season with EPL experience, and the back four is gonna have a keeper they can trust more than the other two.

[RexxGrim]

Uh oh. You know what happens when you say stuff like that...


BREAKING NEWS: Arsenal does a 180 on the signing of Lille star Gervinho. Sources close to the club say that Wenger changed his mind after comments made by world famouse reverse predictionist, Mach III, was made public. :p

[Mach III]

BREAKING NEWS: Arsenal does a 180 on the signing of Lille star Gervinho. Sources close to the club say that Wenger changed his mind after comments made by world famouse reverse predictionist, Mach III, was made public. :p

Last season I was the reverse predictionist, this one will be different!Ha ha ha

[mmmig]

The thing with wenger is most of the time you will only find out about a new signing after the deal is done. He is a very secretive buyer

[RexxGrim]

Last season I was the reverse predictionist, this one will be different!Ha ha ha

If you are the reverse predictionist and you are predicting that this season will be different, then in fact the reverse of that means that this season will be the same. :D

[fishfly]

If you are the reverse predictionist and you are predicting that this season will be different, then in fact the reverse of that means that this season will be the same. :D

nah his predicting that the table willbe United last, chelsea 2nd last, arsenal 3rd last, City 4th last :D

[RexxGrim]

I got an Arsenal Shirt for my Birthday this weekend. Nice gift as it was something that I wouldn't have bought for myself. Nothing to do with supporting the club I just think that these types of things are extremely overpriced. Oh and I am a ginger so red is not my best color. :p

I was thinking of putting a name on the back. Can't decide between the following players.

Nasri
Cesc
Clichy
Bendtner
Denilson

I was thinking of all the players in the list Denilson would probably be with us the longest. Any suggestions?