Painting a house? What do you Pay?

[Hosehead]

If you hire a painter what can you reasonably expect to pay or what have you paid recently to paint your house?
Some of the prices I've been quoted are crazy. Some Guy wanted three weeks to do interior and exterior Excluding Paint and wanted R25,000 add paint @R10,000 extra:sick:

[blunomore]

Well, to give you an idea, I used a painting company to paint my living room and dining room recently and they charged me R 3 600. Those 2 rooms took them 3 days.

[Dolby]

I'm painting early December ... didn't realise it costs so much.

I thought those 25l drums of paint were R600 and did about 6sqm. At R10,000 for paint thats a huge surface area!

[Hot_Chocolate]

buy paint yourself instead of having them buy it. they add a lot to the paint price and score some extra money off you.

we painted our own house. why should I pay someone to do it, when I know I can do a very good job of it myself?

[koeks]

If you hire a painter what can you reasonably expect to pay or what have you paid recently to paint your house?
Some of the prices I've been quoted are crazy. Some Guy wanted three weeks to do interior and exterior Excluding Paint and wanted R25,000 add paint @R10,000 extra:sick:

thanks crazy.

R37.50 per sqaure meter for PVA
R45.00 per sqaure meter for Enamel/Double Velvet

email me for a quotation on vusim@unpluggit.co.za

[koeks]

or if you don't want companies doing it for you just buy the paint you want and go to a builders warehouse near you and get painters there. you can negotiate the price? how big is the house?

[wizdumb]

my mother paid a guy r2,500 and this incl all outside walls, plus garage and window frames

the paint for the outside walls was cheap, 499 for 20l of micatex, i think they 3 or 4 drums

[Hosehead]

It's a small Victorian single story with new loft (A frame) pitched roof with attached garage. There are 5 small- medium paintable rooms inside.

The roof is new so it doesn't need painting so the only exterior areas are the newly built gables which support an A Frame roof and the ground floor exterior and the waist high street front wall.

I chose the Dulux paint though and it's not cheap for Very Dark Rich colours but for the inside I chose PVA and off-white Plascon double velvet with a few liters of the same in velvaglow for the kitchen and a burgundy for the fireplace feature wall.

Interior paint at Cape Town's main paint discounter (LT) cost R6000 (85 litres off white+ 20 litres PVA for new ceilings) Two coats

Exterior paint will cost between R4000-6000 for Two coats

Now the Painter wants R25,000 on top of all this. Eisch.:confused:

Don't have the time to do it myself but don't have R25,000to throw at a bakkie brigade painter anyway-although some people are insisting that the price is about right:(

[slayerza]

I have used several of the 'painters' located at the building supplies stores. Just one thing, if the guy is clean as a whistle, stay clear - he probably doesn't know a brush from a roller. If on the other hand the guy is wearing some painting clothes he usually knows his stuff and you can bank on the paint covering the stated surface area.

Another useful hint is to pay per job and not per day, otherwise the job will take forever (painful experience). The guy that painted my roof, took a week and used 5 drums of paint, and charged R2500 for labor. Given that this is less than 20% of the commercial guys labor costs I found it quite cheap.

[Hosehead]

If you've left the walls for a long time and they're looking tatty, do you have to strip first?
No. Just need to paint over existing colour with a darker one as last coat was 3 years ago.

[Rhuey46]

It's a small Victorian single story with new loft (A frame) pitched roof with attached garage. There are 5 small- medium paintable rooms inside.

The roof is new so it doesn't need painting so the only exterior areas are the newly built gables which support an A Frame roof and the ground floor exterior and the waist high street front wall.

I chose the Dulux paint though and it's not cheap for Very Dark Rich colours but for the inside I chose PVA and off-white Plascon double velvet with a few liters of the same in velvaglow for the kitchen and a burgundy for the fireplace feature wall.

Interior paint at Cape Town's main paint discounter (LT) cost R6000 (85 litres off white+ 20 litres PVA for new ceilings) Two coats

Exterior paint will cost between R4000-6000 for Two coats

Now the Painter wants R25,000 on top of all this. Eisch.:confused:

Don't have the time to do it myself but don't have R25,000to throw at a bakkie brigade painter anyway-although some people are insisting that the price is about right:(

Hey, I hope you don't mind me asking, but I'm trying to do some research on paint etc., why would you use plascon over dulux, I am looking at painting and the only difference I can see is the 7 year guarantee on Plascon over 4/5 years on Dulux. Personally I prefer the Dulux brand, and the price difference is minimal between the various paints.

I asked a guy at Barneys paint and he said I should go for either Dulux, Plascon or Prominent paints (never heard of before) apart from that all the other paints are cheap and will start peeling after a few years.

Also, for inside I would rather paint myself, I've seen this Dulux paint pod thing, but I think there are limited colours, any thoughts on this? I think it looks great, but in practice how would it perform, and maybe only best for professional painters?

[steven07]

Okay, I also paint somebody house for 2 weeks and 3 days. Eish but it probably will took me next time a week, because that house needed so much preparation work. In total for the paint and other stuff that was needed is cost him about R6000. I charge him for the inside labour and the outside R8800,00. I use 3 of my guys on the house. I hope you did not accept that quote for R35000.




If you hire a painter what can you reasonably expect to pay or what have you paid recently to paint your house?
Some of the prices I've been quoted are crazy. Some Guy wanted three weeks to do interior and exterior Excluding Paint and wanted R25,000 add paint @R10,000 extra:sick:

[rvonh]

Many years ago, a firend who owned a painting enterprise told me that the rule of thumb was: The cost of the paint = The price for labour.

Obviously if the building was badly neglected, the price for labour would be adjusted to allow for additional prepping.

Any supplier of paints would be able to tell you how much paint you will need. In fact, they should see the house and also give you some advice on the scope of work.

[Frankie]

Here's a quote I got last month.
The job is complete and the contractor paid for a good job.

Job took three days to complete.
______________________________________

1. Kitchen Ceiling: chip out and fill crack some 3m in length; prepare & paint whole
(large) ceiling with white Rockgrip Super Acrylic PYA;
2. Study: prepare & paint walls (these are quite dirty and marked) and touch-up
ceiling as necessary; walls to be painted with top quality fully washable and
mould-resistant Dulux Wallguard, in standard colour of your choice - the colour
"Chalkstone" is recommended;
3. Family Room / Sun Room: scrape off loose and flaking paint, apply Coprox damp
sealer, chip out & fill cracks in ceiling; prepare & paint walls and ceiling as above;
4. Main bedroom ceiling: prepare & paint as above;
5. Spare bedroom: chip out crack (along ex-garage door arch) and fill, apply Coprox
damp sealer, prepare & paint white as above - both interior and exterior aspects;
all-inclusive of materials, labour and supervision, transport & fuel costs:-
R8425

[Wino]

It's a small Victorian single story with new loft (A frame) pitched roof with attached garage. There are 5 small- medium paintable rooms inside.

The roof is new so it doesn't need painting so the only exterior areas are the newly built gables which support an A Frame roof and the ground floor exterior and the waist high street front wall.

I chose the Dulux paint though and it's not cheap for Very Dark Rich colours but for the inside I chose PVA and off-white Plascon double velvet with a few liters of the same in velvaglow for the kitchen and a burgundy for the fireplace feature wall.

Interior paint at Cape Town's main paint discounter (LT) cost R6000 (85 litres off white+ 20 litres PVA for new ceilings) Two coats

Exterior paint will cost between R4000-6000 for Two coats

Now the Painter wants R25,000 on top of all this. Eisch.:confused:

Don't have the time to do it myself but don't have R25,000to throw at a bakkie brigade painter anyway-although some people are insisting that the price is about right:(



If you're in Cape Town I can reccommend the guy who just painted my house and 2 of my neighbors houses. He charges R300-00 per day and does a great job. He doesnt take short cuts and works fast.
He painted my house (outside only), double story - 320 m sq - in about 9 days I think, thats 2 coats as well as painting the eves and facia boards.
Whether he is available or not I dont know.

[Wino]

Hey, I hope you don't mind me asking, but I'm trying to do some research on paint etc., why would you use plascon over dulux, I am looking at painting and the only difference I can see is the 7 year guarantee on Plascon over 4/5 years on Dulux. Personally I prefer the Dulux brand, and the price difference is minimal between the various paints.

I asked a guy at Barneys paint and he said I should go for either Dulux, Plascon or Prominent paints (never heard of before) apart from that all the other paints are cheap and will start peeling after a few years.

Also, for inside I would rather paint myself, I've seen this Dulux paint pod thing, but I think there are limited colours, any thoughts on this? I think it looks great, but in practice how would it perform, and maybe only best for professional painters?


Yup - its only the guarentee that differs between Plascon Micatex and Dulux.
I used Micatext and can vouch that it is great, covered all hair-line cracks and is good value for money.
Plus I like the advert!

[Wino]

I have used several of the 'painters' located at the building supplies stores. Just one thing, if the guy is clean as a whistle, stay clear - he probably doesn't know a brush from a roller. If on the other hand the guy is wearing some painting clothes he usually knows his stuff and you can bank on the paint covering the stated surface area.

Another useful hint is to pay per job and not per day, otherwise the job will take forever (painful experience). The guy that painted my roof, took a week and used 5 drums of paint, and charged R2500 for labor. Given that this is less than 20% of the commercial guys labor costs I found it quite cheap.

In this case I would suggest driving around a few areas that are being developed and are in the process of being painted. Walk around the house, speak to the painters and judge for yourself.

[Starship]

I had my house painted about 18 months ago. I bought 3 X 20 litres drums of Plascon Micatex (white) wherever it was on special. It paid to shop around. I got a painter that was recommended by a client at an agreed fee of R150 a day. Initially the painter started off with great enthusiasm, but this rapidly wained until he started knocking off at 15:00 and then wanting to leave at 14:00 on a Friday and then asking to work Saturday at a higher rate - R200 and knock off at 14:00 again. This began to piss me off, so after two weeks I told him the money had run out and he mustn't come back :mad:

So lesson learned (as someone else pointed out) never pay a daily rate, as they will drag the job out as long as possible. Get a price for the job and preferably do it in sections so if the first section isn't up to scratch, you can get rid of the guy and start again.

I paid about R3,000 for paint including matt enamel for the fascia boards and R2,000 for labour. The painter was very demanding when it came to refreshments and lunch. Like KFC would be good! :twisted: I didn't add up what I spent on coffee, cooldrink and lunch but it was a good bit extra, so best clear up what the expectations are in that respect in advance.

I did not have to hire a high pressure cleaner, as I have my own 130Kpa machine.

[Picard]

If you are coloured then your paint would cost you only the price of a crate of quarts and the colour would be turquios.

[xrapidx]

Out of interest, how often should a house be repainted, outside?

[markface]

Just buy the paint yourself. My folks got their gardener to paint the house. He loved it and did a great job. I think they paid him R100/day or something a few year ago.
It took a while, but still.

[Starship]

Out of interest, how often should a house be repainted, outside?
This would depend on weather conditions and proximity to the sea etc, the quality of the initial undercoat and the surface material. Theoretically one should be able to go ten years between fresh coats.

[Jase]

We are currently repainting the exterior of our house:

Paint: R660 per 20lts Chamberlain brand (seems decent enough)
Estimated labout costs: R2500 (our garden is a builder by trade)

As to labour slacking off, we pay a daily rate but he only takes a % daily and the rest will be paid out on completion of the job. We also negotiated a bonus on completion withing a stipulated time frame. We work on a no work no pay basis (just like I do at my currently employer).

So total costs (Paint, Labour, odds and ends) is estimated to come in at around R7000 which works out to around R46/sqm. This cost excludes daily coffee and lunch.

[brilite]

If you hire a painter what can you reasonably expect to pay or what have you paid recently to paint your house?
Some of the prices I've been quoted are crazy. Some Guy wanted three weeks to do interior and exterior Excluding Paint and wanted R25,000 add paint @R10,000 extra:sick:

I depends on how big is the property, amount of preparation required, eg some cracked and paint exfoliating properties with damp problem may need thorough preparation with tools and other chemicals like pasta key which is very key to make the surface hold paint for a long period before repainting, working with a team of say 6 guys on a property for 15 days at 150 per day as most painters wont accept less, this gives you R900 labour / day and R13500 in 15 days cost of tools , brushesetc not factored