View Full Version : Movies I somehow missed - The Fountain
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 01:03 PM I am a big fan of existential movies (http://kilroycafe.blogspot.com/2008/09/best-existential-films.html)...
anybody seen this one?
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thefountain/trailer1/large.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414993/
Looks interesting... Hugh Jackman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/) and Rachel Weisz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001838/)
Darren Aronofsky's "Requiem for a Dream (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/)" is a masterpiece of film-making.
... so how did I miss this one?
I loved Pi, and I loved Requiem.
The Fountain I thought was tolly.
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 01:27 PM I loved Pi, and I loved Requiem.
The Fountain I thought was tolly.
what is "tolly"? :confused:
ja, Aronofsky is a good film maker.
Other feel good existential movies I love... watch most of these once a year! :p
The Truman Show
Castaway
Groundhog Day
Joe versus the Volcano
Forrest Gump
remybfg10k 25-11-2008, 01:51 PM tolly = penis
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 02:13 PM would you guys quit playing with your "tolly" in my totally serious thread? :mad:
I thought The Fountain was contrived and pretentious. Is that serious enough? :D
hj2k_x 25-11-2008, 02:19 PM lol @ tolly
I also thought the Fountain was a turd.
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 02:41 PM k.. me still gonna watch it though.
Then I will come back and tell you if you all a bunch of "tollys" or not.
k.. me still gonna watch it though.
Then I will come back and tell you if you all a bunch of "tollys" or not.
Hey, we already know we're a bunch of tollys.
remybfg10k 25-11-2008, 03:13 PM So whats the over movie you missed Garyvdh?
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 03:18 PM So whats the over movie you missed Garyvdh?
um... well to be honest I only saw requiem for a dream a few years later on DVD... and only cos it had Jennifer Connolly in it. :p
I'm sure there are a lot of good movies I am missing at the moment :(
SlinkyMike 25-11-2008, 03:31 PM I thought The Fountain was contrived and pretentious. Is that serious enough? :D
Contrived of what and pretentious to what??
Your statement is contrived and pretentious if anything.:confused:
The Fountain is outstanding - great ideas good acting; nice atmosphere etc. but the real beauty of it is in the visual language - constant interplay between dark/shadow and light... you can actually see as the film progresses the movement toward the light, its quite an amazing bit of film.
Definitely on a par with both Requiem and Pi... but as different from both of those as they are from one another.
There was talk of D.A. doing the new Batman sometime back, not that Nolan hasn't done amazing things with it but Aranovsky would have been VERY interesting.
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 03:37 PM Contrived of what and pretentious to what??
Your statement is contrived and pretentious if anything.:confused:
The Fountain is outstanding - great ideas good acting; nice atmosphere etc. but the real beauty of it is in the visual language - constant interplay between dark/shadow and light... you can actually see as the film progresses the movement toward the light, its quite an amazing bit of film.
Definitely on a par with both Requiem and Pi... but as different from both of those as they are from one another.
There was talk of D.A. doing the new Batman sometime back, not that Nolan hasn't done amazing things with it but Aranovsky would have been VERY interesting.
Hmm, thanks... that gives me some more info to work with! :D
Now, to see if i can find a copy to rent.
unsecluded 25-11-2008, 03:48 PM the book was good, if thats what it was based on..
check out solaris, u might like that as well...a bit slow, but if you into that genre then you'll be fine...
also 'apocalypse now' and 'blade runner'....
when more come to mind i'll keep you posted...
oh...'vanilla sky' too
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 04:01 PM the book was good, if thats what it was based on..
check out solaris, u might like that as well...a bit slow, but if you into that genre then you'll be fine...
also 'apocalypse now' and 'blade runner'....
when more come to mind i'll keep you posted...
oh...'vanilla sky' too
apocalypse now' and 'blade runner' are already on my list.
Vanilla Sky is down to watch.
Others are ...
The Matrix
Dark City
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Too lazy (stupid?) to write my own review, but this one sums it up nicely for me.
Here it is... the movie I knew Aronofsky was capable of; after the "Look at me, I'm shaking my camera" singularity of Pi... And after the "starts-in-human-squalor-and-goes-lower" one-note experience of Requiem for a Dream... Aronofsky has contributed a real service to humanity by providing a litmus test for blind-dates. Just drop the name of this piece of overwrought obfuscation into a conversation, and if your new friend gets excited, you can spare yourself an entire evening, at the very least, with a complete poseur.
This is the terrific-looking, crappy movie that every director seemingly has in them after The Cell, Flatliners, Blade Runner, Brazil and everything else by Terry Gilliam, and hundreds of other bad movies. It's been art-directed to death. No such care was tendered on the script which is composed of faux-gravitas interrupted by arty posturing, and outbursts instead of drama. Why does someone devise such original visuals, then stumble over cliché after cliché. It seems impossible that Aronofsky hasn't realized there isn't a great movie that doesn't also work on a crappy 10" black and white TV, with a bent hanger for an antenna. The whole show here is prettiness.
The films features are keyed to the pretensions of a high-school sophomore, but when you're 37 and you present this material with a straight face, you should be deeply embarrassed. This is the kind of movie where everyone is either talking in breathy, serious whispers or they're shouting. It's about as deep as a perfume commercial, which is what it seems to be taking its cue from. (Calvin Klein's 'The Fountain...') If I ever see another character pull their partner into an overflowing tub again, I'm going to track them both down and make them eat soap.
I was completely open to the imagery of the space terrarium. But I was laughing out loud at the conclusion, where Jackman drinks some Ranch dressing from a tree and discovers his inner salad. That's your big conclusion after such a bloated, belabored tease? These muddy 'ideas' are worth about twenty minutes of investigation, or a viewers time. I welcome experimental work, but when it results in material more vapid than a Friday the 13th movie, you're not an artist. If you've compared this movie to Kubrick's 2001, it means you don't understand either of them.
Wow. This is just powerfully bad, self-indulgent, adolescent stuff.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414993/usercomments?filter=hate
Garyvdh 25-11-2008, 04:08 PM thanks! I'll take that under advisement! ;)
phiber 25-11-2008, 10:20 PM I'm a bit aronofsky fan, couldn't watch this... total crap...
U want a cool existential movie?? Try I <3 Huckabees :P
Rendier 26-11-2008, 02:19 AM VANILLA SKY IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST MOVIE YOU WILL EVER SEE IF YOU ARE INTO THIS TYPE OF GENRE.
VANILLA SKY for the WIN!
SlinkyMike 26-11-2008, 10:28 AM I must disagree strongly yet again. I think The Fountain s a brilliant film.
That 'review' is wildly biased - the reviewer obviously hates Aronovsky with a passion... he slags of Pi FFS!!
Incidentally I was totally into the overflowing bathtub scene - in fact the whole romance between the dying chick and the brilliant scientist/doctor dude had me right 'there'.
WTH is going on dudes - that film is Amazing (thats right: CAPITAL 'A'.)
One to add to the list: Waking Life.
I agree wholeheartedly with the review, and I liked both Pi and Requiem. I really felt that The Fountain was trying very very hard to be "deep".
unsecluded 03-12-2008, 12:32 PM oh ya...'Into the Wild'
dablakmark8 03-12-2008, 12:40 PM requiem was a bit pornographic:D
I enjoyed The Fountain ... walked out wondering if I had understood the story line :D but still enjoyed watching it.
krycor 03-12-2008, 12:54 PM you might need to watch it twice.. it you don't pay attention then you get confused as there are 3? stories told intertwined
SlinkyMike 03-12-2008, 02:48 PM I agree wholeheartedly with the review, and I liked both Pi and Requiem. I really felt that The Fountain was trying very very hard to be "deep".
...huh? It is "deep" as you put it, if that is what its trying then its a runaway success!
nauseous_monkey 03-12-2008, 03:03 PM I loved Pi, and I loved Requiem.
The Fountain I thought was tolly.
I think I might know who you are now :P
nihilist 03-12-2008, 03:13 PM The Fountain was marvelous.
Also check out Me and You and Everyone We Know (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0415978/).
It's not related to the theme of movies discussed here, but it is a gem.
Budza 03-12-2008, 03:27 PM Of Mice and Men??
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