R&B: The worst kind of music ever?

[BCO]

Seriously, I CANNOT abide R&B. Almost every other style of music has some artists that are decent, but R&B on the whole is ****ing awful. Why is it that EVERY goddamn song is about sex/relationships/"the club®"?

[Solidus]

Seriously, I CANNOT abide R&B. Almost every other style of music has some artists that are decent, but R&B on the whole is ****ing awful. Why is it that EVERY goddamn song is about sex/relationships/"the club®"?

+10000000000000000000
Been saying that for past 7years.
No thought process is necessary when listening to this awful ****e and what's worst is every radio is punting this crap

[BCO]

Yes, it's suddenly the most pervasive of all music types on SA radio.

[Mephisto_Helix]

not to mention that all their 'songs' are made up of other songs .......

[Veroland]

I cant believe they acually classify that cr*p as music

[RazedInBlack]

R & B really stands for Rubbish & Bull****. We all know that!

[RazedInBlack]

Seriously, I CANNOT abide R&B. Almost every other style of music has some artists that are decent, but R&B on the whole is ****ing awful. Why is it that EVERY goddamn song is about sex/relationships/"the club®"?

. . . and someone is always breaking up with someone and wanting to get back together . . . and someone else always cheated on someone . . . :vomit:

[phenom]

[Psychological warfare]...I believe I can fly, I believe i can *sing with me*[/Psychological warfare]

[superB]

R&B

*spit*

[alisiaoh]

Jip the radio station really are overplaying these songs..... i can handle listening to 1 song but 2 in a row..... It just gets irritating.

I also have a neigbour that has the habit of playing his/their R&B music very loudly on the afternoons when i get home and saturdays.....

[Solidus]

Rap and Hip-Hop also falls in this category.
Half the time you have no idea what they saying and the other half it's about:
Ho's, forties, 30" Chrome rims :sick::sick::sick:

[sox63]

Here is an idea, if you don't like it switch off, change the channel?

I LOVE R&B, soulful stuff, some of the new stuff sounds more like hip-hop type beats, but with someone singing instead of rapping.

*Gets the urge to listen to some Tamia*

[Pitbull]

This is exactly what has killed 5FM :o

R&B is the most stupid form of music I have ever heard

[Devill]

Rap and Hip-Hop also falls in this category.
Half the time you have no idea what they saying and the other half it's about:
Ho's, forties, 30" Chrome rims :sick::sick::sick:

Lol, some rap is fine, these new want to be idiots are useless.

Listen to some tupac, that is rap :)

[PostmanPot]

R&B and hip-pop... :sick:

[phenom]

Comee on hiphop's not that bad, not pop, hiphop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZdREkiAdQ

[eek]

All I can really say is...I agree with the majority here...R&B's just not my thing....I'm more of a music lover! hehehe.

[dam]

I hate it too.

[porn$tar]

I agree, but R&B listeners say the same thing about alternative...

There's just no accounting for taste.

[alisiaoh]

This is exactly what has killed 5FM :o

R&B is the most stupid form of music I have ever heard

i agree.... I only listen to UJfm and Tuks these days cause there they play good old rock and if you request a song it actually gets played. :D

[Hosehead]

Rap and Hip-Hop also falls in this category.
Half the time you have no idea what they saying and the other half it's about:
Ho's, forties, 30" Chrome rims :sick::sick::sick:

Yup. Add Jungle, Trance, Stupid White Rappers and House to this too.
:sick::sick::sick::sick:

[Alan]

Seriously, I CANNOT abide R&B. Almost every other style of music has some artists that are decent, but R&B on the whole is ****ing awful. Why is it that EVERY goddamn song is about sex/relationships/"the club®"?

Why can't they hold notes ffs. Groaning like their throat is in a spasm.

[Solidus]

Yup. Add Jungle, Trance, Stupid White Rappers and House to this too.
:sick::sick::sick::sick:

Hell yes, yoh after R&B and hip hop comes Trance and House :sick: :sick:
It's like K@king on a canvas and calling it art :sick:

[mezu]

I cant stand a lot of R&B, most of it is just sad music and I refuse to be saddened by a lot of rubbish.

I prefer rap, rock ..I am very selective though..more of Nas, Mosdef than 50, Lil Wayne..

I hate house music, trance, kwaito and that rave nonsense with all I got ..:sick:

[jarrodr]

I don't like most R&B but Old skool R&B still is bumping.

112 - only you
Blackstreet - Don't Leave
Toni Toni - Get Down
Dru Hill - Sleeping in my bed

Come on, when you hear those you see more people dancing then the new cr@p.

[jarrodr]

Hell yes, yoh after R&B and hip hop comes Trance and House :sick: :sick:
It's like K@king on a canvas and calling it art :sick:

Ima not a Trance fan, but Electronic is the ****...I mean Lady leah is ripping it up for SA. Internationally Fredde le Grand, Steve Bug, etc.

If its like "K@king on a canvas" why they got such a big fan base. Well I guess thats just your opinion.

[mezu]

I don't like most R&B but Old skool R&B still is bumping.

112 - only you



I do like this one

[Gothan]

Detest it, detest it, detest it!!!

And no its not soulful, R&B lost its soul after the 70's. Now its just the same ol fashion, steal someones riff, kill it with a crappy bass track, use some non-sensical grammatical structures, rap about how tough you have it. And when done, you get in your limo

[RazedInBlack]

This is exactly what has killed 5FM :o

R&B is the most stupid form of music I have ever heard

Yeah! I remember the good ole Barney Simon days from 22h00 at night. Tuesday was with Uncle Paul. Loved those scary stories. Metal gothic industrial grunge indie - hmm :nostalgic:

[Solidus]

Ima not a Trance fan, but Electronic is the ****...I mean Lady leah is ripping it up for SA. Internationally Fredde le Grand, Steve Bug, etc.

If its like "K@king on a canvas" why they got such a big fan base. Well I guess thats just your opinion.

Hahahaha dude, its well known the majority of people have cr@p taste.
Pop music sells billions a year doesn't necessarily make it good with massive fan bases.
There are good forms of electronica just that Trance and House with all the derivatives are the worst kind.

[Solidus]

Yeah! I remember the good ole Barney Simon days from 22h00 at night. Tuesday was with Uncle Paul. Loved those scary stories. Metal gothic industrial grunge indie - hmm :nostalgic:

Now those were good ol days.
That man got me through my exams in High School :D

[RazedInBlack]

. . . wonder what happened to Barney Simon?

[mezu]

..and the music videos all the same..even Loyiso (The other guys who gets the award if Danny K misses) goes to the US to shoot some of his trash videos..not fresh

[Fern9do]

You guys are razy. Theres lots of good R&B out there.
It's much better than that pshyco heavy metal music :D

Besides everybody has their own taste. Don't see me starting a thread mocking the stupid afrikaans artists

[JustAsk]

The "good" music don't sell?.:D:D

Nile,Devildriver & Covenant's tour to SA was cancelled in this year due to pathetic ticket sales.With Covenant they only sold 40 tickets in 5 weeks.Need i say more?

[Nod]

. . . wonder what happened to Barney Simon?

He's a DJ on TuksFM. Every Monday between 19:00 and 22:00.
http://www.powerzone.co.za/nightzoo/main.htm

[jarrodr]

Soulja boy, now he makes cr@p music.

Did you know Snoop diss'ed him, because he's song "Crank That" made no sense, and the lyrics made no meaning.lol

[waynegohl]

where can i get a playlist of the songs they used to play on a 5fm show called The Quiet Storm back in the day, if such a list exists.

[JustAsk]

Soulja boy, now he makes cr@p music.

Did you know Snoop diss'ed him, because he's song "Crank That" made no sense, and the lyrics made no meaning.lol

True,plus all the crunk out there.

[Alan]

You guys are razy. Theres lots of good R&B out there.
It's much better than that pshyco heavy metal music :D

Besides everybody has their own taste. Don't see me starting a thread mocking the stupid afrikaans artists

You should. Songs about car guards and police dogs FTL

[Fern9do]

You should. Songs about car guards and police dogs FTL

yeah and don't forget the 30(or is it 40) goue treffers cd:)

I'm not one to knock other peoples music but seriously Afrikaans artist are the lamest ever. They always show their ads on TV when I am watching 7de Laan and I just cant help but laugh at how lame those guys are!

[jarrodr]

I admit to listening to some crunk...Lil Jon, Pit Bull.

But its only because I like the bass:D

[Nod]

yeah and don't forget the 30(or is it 40) goue treffers cd:)

I'm not one to knock other peoples music but seriously Afrikaans artist are the lamest ever. They always show their ads on TV when I am watching 7de Laan and I just cant help but laugh at how lame those guys are!

You watch 7de Laan?:sick: How do you expect people to take you serious now? :confused:

[jarrodr]

Don't be dissing the Hof...Steve HOFMEYR i mean.lol:)

[jarrodr]

You watch 7de Laan?:sick: How do you expect people to take you serious now? :confused:


:D:D:D:D

[Nod]

But its only because I like the bass:D

Try some Combichrist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ism2I3HCGU) or Agonoize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6QtSAFcC0) instead ;)

[Gothan]

You watch 7de Laan?:sick: How do you expect people to take you serious now? :confused:

Well it does explain where the hip hop R&B taste comes in

[jarrodr]

Youtube is blocked at work,lol

[Iwojima]

If Hell is in fact real it is almost certainly filled with the noise known as R&B and Rave/Dance/Trance/(insert another synonym for music that sounds exactly the same "played" by people with no talent)

[JustAsk]

yeah and don't forget the 30(or is it 40) goue treffers cd:)

I'm not one to knock other peoples music but seriously Afrikaans artist are the lamest ever. They always show their ads on TV when I am watching 7de Laan and I just cant help but laugh at how lame those guys are!

Agreed.They always throw in a bonus cd for good measure,for the same price.Just goes to show you how much effort they put in.There's a reason radio stations flat out refuse to play that garbage.

As for 7de laan..i agree with the others.

[detritus]

where can i get a playlist of the songs they used to play on a 5fm show called The Quiet Storm back in the day, if such a list exists.

I remember The Quiet Storm :D , was that Rafe Levin or Nic Ciro?

[Gothan]

yeah and don't forget the 30(or is it 40) goue treffers cd:)

I'm not one to knock other peoples music but seriously Afrikaans artist are the lamest ever. They always show their ads on TV when I am watching 7de Laan and I just cant help but laugh at how lame those guys are!


You know that hip hop and R&B is the international equivelant of goue treffers?

I'm afrikaans and I even detest goue treffers or anything that starts with the name ou toppie

[adrianx]

It is so easy to become an R&B star. You just need to be able to see-ee-ee-i-ing. If you can't do that, then just wear lots of bling.

[RazedInBlack]

You watch 7de Laan?:sick: How do you expect people to take you serious now? :confused:

:D :D :D . . . can't stop . . . :D :D :D

[RazedInBlack]

I remember The Quiet Storm :D , was that Rafe Levin or Nic Ciro?

The Blues and some classic ****. Good memories.:)

[JK8]

Im a big RnB fan, whats wrong with it?

[Nod]

Im a big RnB fan, whats wrong with it?

What's your favourite artist and song?

[Solidus]

If Hell is in fact real it is almost certainly filled with the noise known as R&B and Rave/Dance/Trance/(insert another synonym for music that sounds exactly the same "played" by people with no talent)

My brother and I say the same thing, hahahaha! :D

[Fern9do]

Well i dont actually "Watch" it. I get home @ about 6:40pm then my mom and sis are watching it so i just sit down and observe:)

[waynegohl]

I remember The Quiet Storm :D , was that Rafe Levin or Nic Ciro?

jeez man i had a feeling it was Rafe but now i aint to sure, that was awesome stuff.

[waynegohl]

The Blues and some classic ****. Good memories.:)

started off with a sound of a thunder storm along the lines of Riders on the Storm by The Doors.

[adrianx]

The few times that I actually do listen to the nasal sounds and lyrics - I feel sick to my stomach.

It's always the same; my girlfriend/boyfriend is a ho'/dog and I'm gonna keep all the jewels/cars/money/throw them all away..... Kick him/her out... That sort of thing.

You get the "romantic" variety as well, but those horrible nasal sounds! Sheesh.

[JK8]

What's your favourite artist and song?

Joe, Usher, Old Boyz2men, Tamia, etc

[FnuckNut]

Joe, Usher, Old Boyz2men, Tamia, etc

Did you watch the AMA awards?

[iAfrica]

Normally I would have read and move along, but man where's the love?

People have different tastes in music and that's okay. I am huge fan of R&B I grew up with this type of music, but I am also a fan of other different types of music. I can play Frank Sinatra, then Coldplay, then Kanye West, then Beyonce, then Miles Davis and finish off with The Beatles or maybe Death Cab.

If you don't like something, that does not make it crap, it's not for you and that's okay, just move along.

[eek]

When it comes to Blues...man some Howlin' Wolf goes down well! Aaaaawwww yeeaaahhhhh!!!

[JK8]

Did you watch the AMA awards?

Nope, how was it?

[Iwojima]

Normally I would have read and move along, but man where's the love?

People have different tastes in music and that's okay. I am huge fan of R&B I grew up with this type of music, but I am also a fan of other different types of music. I can play Frank Sinatra, then Coldplay, then Kanye West, then Beyonce, then Miles Davis and finish off with The Beatles or maybe Death Cab.

If you don't like something, that does not make it crap, it's not for you and that's okay, just move along.
I'm sorry, but music (and I use that term lightly) with interchangeable riffs/beats and constantly repetitive themes/lyrics that requires little or no talent to perform or create can only be described as crap

[eek]

I'm sorry, but music (and I use that term lightly) with interchangeable riffs/beats and constantly repetitive themes/lyrics that requires little or no talent to perform or create can only be described as crap

comprehensively said! :)

[eek]

Normally I would have read and move along, but man where's the love?

People have different tastes in music and that's okay. I am huge fan of R&B I grew up with this type of music, but I am also a fan of other different types of music. I can play Frank Sinatra, then Coldplay, [-]then Kanye West, then Beyonce[/-], then Miles Davis and finish off with The Beatles or maybe Death Cab.

If you don't like something, that does not make it crap, it's not for you and that's okay, just move along.

Yeah....I like those too! :D

[iAfrica]

I'm sorry, but music (and I use that term lightly) with interchangeable riffs/beats and constantly repetitive themes/lyrics that requires little or no talent to perform or create can only be described as crap

So musicians like Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye and Alicia Keys have no talent.

Granted the music might have changed throughout the years but the themes and lyrics resonate with the fans because they can relate to it, even R. Kelly with his lyrics, people still buy his music, that does not make those people crap lovers.

When you are not used to a certain sound and cannot relate to it chances are you won't like it, same thing with food, art, movies, clothes, etc.

My daughter like the 'Jonas Brothers', I don't like their sound at all but that's what she and her friends like.

So a couple of things are at play w.r.t the type of music people like, like time, background, exposure and all sorts of things that make us different.

So relax, you don't have to like it, that's your choice, just move along.

[eek]

yeah...but that's what this thread is about is it not? The individuals personal opinion on R&B being the worst music ever...with the majority just agreeing?

[adrianx]

So relax, you don't have to like it, that's your choice, just move along.
I have moved and am still moving along. I don't listen to SA radio stations at all, anymore. If bandwidth wasn't so damn expensive, I would use it to listen to overseas radio stations all day long.

[daveza]

R & B - it's not definitely blues and has no rhythm.

It's an insult to the original R & B concept to even mention the current ' artists ' in the same genre.

What percentage of these talentless clowns ever release more than 1 album.

There's so much of this rubbish in the stores that there's little room for artists with talent and longevity.

[Alan]

So musicians like Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye and Alicia Keys have no talent.

Alicia Keys is worse then waterboarding :sick:

[wizdumb]

Seriously, I CANNOT abide R&B. Almost every other style of music has some artists that are decent, but R&B on the whole is ****ing awful. Why is it that EVERY goddamn song is about sex/relationships/"the club®"?


OMG bluecollar for president!!

and here i thought i was the only one that felt this way - see not such a small world afterall

[Aqua_lung]

It's a shame that we only get to listen to western music(American carp), would love to get some Asian, Latin American, Middle Eastern and Indian beats on the Radio. Dmx has a good range but still not diverse enough.

[adrianx]

It's a shame that we only get to listen to western music(American carp), would love to get some Asian, Latin American, Middle Eastern and Indian beats on the Radio. Dmx has a good range but still not diverse enough.
I would like some Norwegian, Icelandic and Danish music! :D

Anyway, that's the whole point. Why do old radio stations have to be taken over and destroyed? Can't they start new radio stations to cater for more tastes instead of forcing everyone to listen to everything?

[JK8]

I think some of you guys are mistaking RnB and pop, just cause a black artist sings Pop, doesnt make it RnB...

Alicia Keyes has some RnB songs and some Pop, Same with Celine Dion.
RnB is also Hip Hop.

[JK8]

I would like some Norwegian, Icelandic and Danish music! :D

Anyway, that's the whole point. Why do old radio stations have to be taken over and destroyed? Can't they start new radio stations to cater for more tastes instead of forcing everyone to listen to everything?

What do you want? Kitchen music, banging pots and pans? Whiny gay rock music?

But ye, some radio stations are losing the plot, Highveld is still the worst!:sick::sick::sick:

[adrianx]

What do you want? Kitchen music, banging pots and pans? Whiny gay rock music?

But ye, some radio stations are losing the plot, Highveld is still the worst!:sick::sick::sick:
Showing your true colours, eh?

Edit: By the way, you have 20^10 times more stations to choose from....... You know, just about every station that there is.

[daveza]

Whiny gay rock music?



Is this a new genre ? Examples ?

Closest I can think of would be The Village People.

[daveza]

Wiki says -


In the 2000s, the initialism R&B is almost always used instead of the full rhythm and blues, and mainstream use of the term usually refers to contemporary R&B, which is a modern version of soul and funk-influenced pop music that originated as disco faded from popularity.

[Pooky]

I like hip hop!!!

50 cent, Usher, T.I. are the best!!!

[dlk001]

yeah...but that's what this thread is about is it not? The individuals personal opinion on R&B being the worst music ever...with the majority just agreeing?

R&B remains my favorite music. I like old school and I like some of the new school. I find that most of the latest R&B music seems to fade quickly.

But, music taste is a red herring. Just because a group of people agree on R&B not being their taste does not make R&B music the worst music ever.


Whilst music taste is a crucial tool in self-definition within a mass culture, it differentiates one while simultaneously making a case for one’s belonging to a group. It lets one conform and be different at the same time, which resolves one of the fundamental contradictions we confront.

Whatever rationale that drives the music taste of an individual or a group of people does not mean an automatic taste for everyone. Arguments about musical taste are inevitably about the participants seeking recognition for their individuality.

[FnuckNut]

Nope, how was it?

Great, It was a long time since I sat and watched a music award show till the end. Chris Brown took a few awards.

It is raining awards for Chris Brown at the American Music Awards in Los Angeles. The 19-year old singer bagged three titles including Pop/Rock, Soul/R&B along with the Artist of the Year.

"I would''ve gave it to Coldplay. I'm at a loss for words," E! Online quoted him as saying. His girlfreind , Rihanna also bagged the award for gong of Favourite Female Soul/R&B Artist and Favourite Pop/Rock Female, giving him another reason to celebrate.

Kayne West won the award in the rap/hip-hop category. Alicia Keyes, won for Pop/Rock Album and Soul/R&B album for As I Am, while Linkin Park won in the Alternative Rock category.
.

[adrianx]

So I suppose all you Ho's and Bo's won't have a problem with me telling my 10 year old niece that it's okay to use the 'N' word and to be proud of being incarcerated.

Thanks, I'll pass that info on to her....

I realise that it is more of a hip-hop problem than an R&B problem, but nowadays there seems to be a very fine line between the two.

[BCO]

Firstly, R&B used to have plenty of soul back in the 60's and 70's. Artists like Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Curtis Mayfield, George Benson are/were amazing, soulful and talented performers. Artists like Usher, R Kelly, Akon, Beyonce perform derivative, mass produced tripe with no originality. And their lyrical scope is pathetic in terms of content.

Secondly, R&B and Hip Hop are NOT interchangeable terms. Mos Def, Public Enemy, MF Doom, Immortal Technique, Roots Manuva etc are NOT the same as Akon, Rihanna et al.

[Alan]

It's a shame that we only get to listen to western music(American carp), would love to get some Asian, Latin American, Middle Eastern and Indian beats on the Radio. Dmx has a good range but still not diverse enough.

Soon all you'll get is Chinese music


I like hip hop!!!

50 cent, Usher, T.I. are the best!!!

Who'd have thought.


Firstly, R&B used to have plenty of soul back in the 60's and 70's. Artists like Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Curtis Mayfield, George Benson are/were amazing, soulful and talented performers. Artists like Usher, R Kelly, Akon, Beyonce perform derivative, mass produced tripe with no originality. And their lyrical scope is pathetic in terms of content.

You could say the same thing about rock

[BCO]

You could say the same thing about rock

Agreed, although at least most rock musicians can actually play an instrument.

Out of all the contemporary R&B "artists" I have the most respect for Alicia Keys coz at least she's an actual musician.

Most "radio music" is utter tripe, but IMO R&B is the worst of the lot, with the least actual musical merit, and the crappest lyrical scope. Seriously, these people need to at least vary their subject matter a little bit.

[masticore]

So I suppose all you Ho's and Bo's won't have a problem with me telling my 10 year old niece that it's okay to use the 'N' word and to be proud of being incarcerated.

Thanks, I'll pass that info on to her....

I realise that it is more of a hip-hop problem than an R&B problem, but nowadays there seems to be a very fine line between the two.

Nah - hip-hop is shyte, R&B is rubbish.

[mezu]

Firstly, R&B used to have plenty of soul back in the 60's and 70's. Artists like Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Curtis Mayfield, George Benson are/were amazing, soulful and talented performers. Artists like Usher, R Kelly, Akon, Beyonce perform derivative, mass produced tripe with no originality. And their lyrical scope is pathetic in terms of content.

Secondly, R&B and Hip Hop are NOT interchangeable terms. Mos Def, Public Enemy, MF Doom, Immortal Technique, Roots Manuva etc are NOT the same as Akon, Rihanna et al.


1+ Now thats music..they have 5fm at the office and sometimes
beyonce comes on..there is this track where she just screams..I am like wow(as in sad)!

[eek]

Agreed, although at least most rock musicians can actually play an instrument.

NOt to forget....how often are those rock riffs not taken and sampled?

[brixton tower]

Firstly, R&B used to have plenty of soul back in the 60's and 70's. Artists like Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Curtis Mayfield, George Benson are/were amazing, soulful and talented performers. Artists like Usher, R Kelly, Akon, Beyonce perform derivative, mass produced tripe with no originality. And their lyrical scope is pathetic in terms of content.

Secondly, R&B and Hip Hop are NOT interchangeable terms. Mos Def, Public Enemy, MF Doom, Immortal Technique, Roots Manuva etc are NOT the same as Akon, Rihanna et al.

I thought I was the only one on here listening to MF DOOM...truly my favourite rapper of all time.

Anyway, there's a dial/off switch on your radio- if enough people did it they would stop playing the garbage.:)

[BCO]

I thought I was the only one on here listening to MF DOOM...truly my favourite rapper of all time.

Anyway, there's a dial/off switch on your radio- if enough people did it they would stop playing the garbage.:)

I started listening to MF Doom after your recommendation in that other Hip Hop thread :D