Eating Healthy

[loosecannon]

well i have got down to bussiness and things are working i know there a cpl in IT doing this and many other detractors ... i was way over weight and have lost 30kg and normalised cholestorel and blood preasure with no

1)medication
2)exersize
3)gimmic
4)miricle cure

im following a low carb diet and would encourage you to do the same if you diabetic/high cholesterol/blood preasure/epiletic/overweight ...

i save a fortune everymonth on med costs all the more for bandwidth ...

[Jerrek]

You will get cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, and other nasty diseases in 10 years if you keep this up. You may be slim, but you will be diseased. Not a good idea.

[podo]

loosecannon,

Cutting out carbohidrates, such as advised by Atkins and other diets can have lots of harmful effects in the long term. Not least of these is accelerated aging, which you want to avoid if you can. It can also lead to the afflictions Jerrek listed above, if done persistently over a long period of time.

A much better idea is to follow a diet and exercise program which optimizes the rate and efficiency of your metabolism. I can strongly recommend the "Fit for Life" diet. My entire family are following this program and the results are excellent, not only in terms of weight controle, but also in terms of general good health and fitness. The program mostly consists of organizing your meals so that proteins, carbohidrates and starches are not mixed, and requires a reasonable reduction in sugar intake, but is generally very well balanced. You should be able to find it in any book store.

I combine this with Taebo exercises every morning, followed by strength training on a weight baring exercise machine, consisting of hundreds of repetitions on all muscle groups with very light weigh capacity settings.

As a side note, if you do decide to add strength training to your exercise regime, do not, under any circumstances, start with, or at any time make use of, heavy weights or weight capacity settings. Lifting heavy weights causes stiffness of muscles and difficulty in small motor controle coordination, which will really hurt your typing speed, and in extreme cases, can cause back or neck injuries, or permanent eye damage, resulting from retinal detachment.

Instead, use the smallest weights or the lowest weight capacity settings available, but perform hundreds of repetitions for each muscle group. This will increase your fitness level and cardiovascular fitness, and will insure correct muscle mass and bone density, without the danger of injury posed by heavy weight lifting.

Willie Viljoen
Web Developer

Adaptive Web Development

[mbs]

And, above all, maintain a healthy state of mind. Positive thinking in the real sense of the word, i.e. constant appreciation for who and what you are, within any given context of space and time, is the underpinning fortifier for issues of health...

[Jerrek]

Fit for Life's diet is an excellent start, but take it one step further: do a bit of research on Dr. Fuhrman's Eat to Live diet.

Website: http://www.drfuhrman.com/

Book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316829455/002-2772142-9880025?v=glance


This book changed me, personally. The basic premise of the book is simple: Americans are fat and diseased not because of a lack of exercise, although that is a contributing factor, but because we eat calories without any nutrional value. The body needs nutrients and energy (calories). The body can survive on very few calories; you simply do not need that much energy. However, the typical American's daily diet consists of consuming over 2,000 calories with little nutrition. Compare that to the diet in Thailand that consists of far viewer calories, but lots of nutrition.

So, what am I saying? Maximize nutrion/calory intake. The more nutrion you get per calory you consume, the better. This is not a popular diet with many people. I was very reluctant at first. What does it involve?

- no animal products whatsoever; no meat, no cheese, no milk, no eggs
- the salad is the main course; eat as much as you want
- consume as much food raw as possible
- eat as much as you want; eat pounds and pounds if that makes you happy, you won't get fat.
- green leafy vegetables are the best food you can get; consume 1 to 2 pounds a day

This is similar to what podo recommends, just a little more hardcore. Of course, don't rule out exercise. Exercise is important. But, there is a lot of truth in the old saying: <b>you are what you eat.</b>

[loosecannon]

well i have to cut sugars and refined junk out as much as possible this includes fruits high in sugar ie oranges apples and things like beetroot as i am diabetic ... flour is almost as bad for us as sugar is ... and causes a massive sugar rush ...

many have the misunderstanding that low-carb is no carb this is wrong what you land up doing is replacing nutritionaly defficit products like bread/potato/sugar with more nutritional items such as spinach brocholli caulifloweer the same goes for fruit rather have nuts and berries than a apple/orrange [berries/mellon are more nutritional] ...

it is vital for good health you eat nutritionaly to prevent disiease and cutting out refined foods is one of the best things as you have said above ... but ensure you eat plenty good stuff

many belive a low carb diet is a high protien diet this is also a misled assumption a high protien diet is undoubtably a bad idea besides if you eat to much protien the body converts it to sugar and in the process releases toxins and requires insulin [somthing to be avoided]

a low carbohydrate diet is prehaps best described as a high fat diet the fat intake is critical and should be done in ratio that is found in nature for the last 30 years food technology has been tending away from fat by replacing it with sugars and starches so a low fat product will have far less fat in it but far more refined goodies to replace it this is not healthy as can be seen by the increase in diabetes and obesity over the same period.

simply by cutting back on starches and sugars and increasing fat intake dramaticly [cream/oil/lard/butter/eggs/cheese] and burning that for energy my health has improved dramaticaly ive been doing this for a year almost and every indication is that the lies propogated by the heart foundation/diabetes are just as bad as sentechs lies ...

ironicaly there is no research at all that proves it is dangerous for most and very effective at lowering blood preasure blood sugar cholesterol .... i spent months researching this and still have not found any general proof that following the diet properly [lowish carb [not no carb] and plenty fiber with a moderate/moderately high protien intake and a very high fat intake] is closer to what we have evolved to eat ...

the average person needs 1500 calories to live but to be healthy closser to 2000 [20-30cals per kg body weight] idealy you want to eat as much as possible to maintain a hwealhy metabolisim this is not possible with a diet high in refined foods as insulin is a dbl edged sword not only mopping up glucose in the blood but causing fat to be stored [triglycerides the most dangerous cholesterol] triglycerides are only produced by the liver as a byproduct of glucose metabolisim and the more refined food you eat the higher the TG count the worse your cholesterol ...

the reverse has been proven to be true the more fat you eat the less cholesterol is produced in the liver and the less is in your blood and the avoid saturated fat to lower cholesterol is a myth that has its origins in vegiterian nutrition from the 40's/50's and has been proven over and over to be invalid ...

margerine and other "healthy fats" have infact been shown to be the main component of artery blockages in unhealthy patients .. as the fat is synthetic the body cannot metabolise it properly as it can naturla sat fats ...

if you want some documentation i have Mb of it i can make available ...

TTFN

[Jerrek]

Before I make a more conclusive reply, do you have type I or type II diabetes, and how much insulin do you use? Do you have high cholesterol? I may be able to help you. Your body is a remarkable machine. :)

[loosecannon]

well i developed type II and i dont need insulin following this diet any injected insulin is a bad thing as it is not responsive enough ... my cholesterol was up over 8 now 4.7 eating more fat esp saturated fat has helped lower my cholesterol ...

indeed it is a remarkable machine but unfortunatly for years i was shoveling crap down my throat did harm eating what we were designed to eat makes it function so much better :)

[martin]

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So, what am I saying? Maximize nutrion/calory intake. The more nutrion you get per calory you consume, the better. This is not a popular diet with many people. I was very reluctant at first. What does it involve?
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Read somewhere that the only nutrional value in a Big Mac is the gherkin.

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So you're left with fruit and veg. Though I love both it's just not enough variety.

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- the salad is the main course; eat as much as you want
- consume as much food raw as possible
- eat as much as you want; eat pounds and pounds if that makes you happy, you won't get fat.
- green leafy vegetables are the best food you can get; consume 1 to 2 pounds a day
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I can understand that this must be really healthy, but I'd probably die of boredom. [:D]

Kudos to anyone that manages to make this their lifestyle. Personally, I'd swap in the extra five years this adds for quality braai (barbeque) time.

[loosecannon]

well i love a good braai all i can eat really is meat and salad ... but make sure there is plenty fat on it ... all i cant eat is refined crap crisps/mielies/pasta/bread/desersts ....

unfortunately vegiterians get bored of it to and land up eating processed food ... sugars ... starches ....

[dorris]

loosecannon, This sounds a whole lot like the Atkins Diet, last I recall, he turned out to be OBESE.
So, if you want advice about anything, I wouldn't recommend getting it from someone that can't keep it up himself, its like going to a SmokeEnders meeting with a chainsmoker, or AA with a Drunk counsellor, neither can be trusted with what I'm going to (or not going to) put into my body.

[Syzygy78]

well, I watched a documentary on television about a year back. You can go on a no carb diet for at most two weeks, else many many terrible things could occur. Perhaps you just need to be a bit more disciplined with your diet BUT not go to extremes. Id rather lose the 30 KG's over a year then 3 months...

anyway, I have to watch my diet as i have a hernia... I must stay away from acidic foods, sugar a few other things. I loved my chocolate, schwepps, pizzas etc... I still have pizza though :) I dont go overboard, with reasonable managemnet you can change your eating habits quite easily. I cant really afford to stay from sweet or sugary things as the moment i put on weight, it all disappears from stress or perhaps an overactive metabolism. Lol, the more I eat the more weight I lose... must be the stress :/

[loosecannon]

that is where a lot of misconception comes in there these experts mouthing off about a list of diseases and things and sure as hell there right if it was a no-carb diet ... the key is to eat nutritionaly sound foods that happen to be low in carb at the same time ... as i have said previously it is a high fat diet more than anything else and it just happens to be one of the best for controlling cholesterol/diabetes/irratable bowel syndrome/syndrome X ...

atkins stared prescribing this to his patients [he was a cardiologist] to help them recover he was in no way obese before his accident and yes he was "obese" when they weighed him at the autopsy ...

the reason for this was systemic organ failure and retention of water from been on life support ... the fact that at his age there was no serious kidney problems/cancer/liver problems ... atests in his case to the effectivness of the diet he followed for 30 years ... he was just one of a group of dr's that started to endorse low-carb as the healtyh alternative ...

i have lost 30kg in almost a year it is slow going [not really faster than any other diet] but easier to maintain and certainaly healthier than calorie-defficient diets long term ... you also experiance far less muscle loss as the body tries to protect itself ... exersize and diet are a bad combo long term as you will be burning more muscle than you should a health metabolisim will burn at most 1-2% of body weight per week any thing more than this could be glycogen/muscle loss [glycogen loss is expected initialy]

[Syzygy78]

point taken :)

[reech]

why not try this: http://www.angusdiet.com/ - it'll lighten you up no matter what.
*****in grrrreat

[Perdition]

Bwahahaha, one of the better sites I've seen in a while. Be sure to grab the book too...

http://www.angusdiet.com/download/angus_diet.pdf

Outstanding!

[Liewe Heksie]

Loosecannon, I started with this low-carb diet 2 months ago, and need some guidelines on what to eat, what's allowed and what not, I've got a basic diet but then I see there is carbs in and some says that and this, and actually I need assistance, I've searched the web in finding proper food going with this atkins diet but eishhhhh it's and endless search

Please help!!!!