View Full Version : Biggest Transfer Flops
fishfly
23-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Hi Just thougth I'd get something like this going:
Personally I think players such as:
Arjen Robben - Transfer to Chelsea and Real Madrid
Ronaldo - from Real Madrid AC Milan
Shaun Wright Phillips - Transfer to Chelsea
Lets see what we can come up with
smokey
23-12-2008, 11:10 AM
Well... I can't say much for Robben, but if he has spent as much time injured as he did in Chelsea then I'm not surprised he's a flop. It would be like a Spanish team buying Van Persie. As for SWP - he's not doing too badly. I haven't seen the last couple of games, but in the ones I did see, he performed admirably.
SuPaStA
23-12-2008, 12:12 PM
How is ronaldo a flop at real madrid?
He scored almost 200 goals with them and won numerous silverware.
fishfly
23-12-2008, 12:17 PM
sorry Ronaldo one should have been:
Ronaldo - from Real Madrid back to AC Milan (after the fat spell)
SuPaStA
23-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Shevchenko..but i think he was on the decline already by the time he got to Chelsea.
Genius.
23-12-2008, 04:37 PM
On sky sport a few months ago. They were comparing more recent tranfer flops. Weather or not the guys were worth their pounds.
On the top of the list was:
Berbatov - flop
Keane - flop
Robinho - top performer
Deco - top performer - altho now, i would consider him a flop
Fern9do
23-12-2008, 05:19 PM
Just shows how fickle the Sky sports "Journalist" can be. They were probably calling C.Ronaldo a flop after his first season at United. Im sure Anelka was labelled a flop aswell last season, now hes the leagues top scorer and keeping drogba on the bench.
The likes of Berbatov and Keane have at least shown glimpses of what they can do when on form. I dont believe in the flop label though because this seasons flop can go on to be next seasons revelation.
Genius.
23-12-2008, 05:29 PM
Just shows how fickle the Sky sports "Journalist" can be. They were probably calling C.Ronaldo a flop after his first season at United. Im sure Anelka was labelled a flop aswell last season, now hes the leagues top scorer and keeping drogba on the bench.
The likes of Berbatov and Keane have at least shown glimpses of what they can do when on form. I dont believe in the flop label though because this seasons flop can go on to be next seasons revelation.
True.
Altho i find sky journos to be the best in the business. They are dedicated to football. They were merely analysing if the big tranfers were worth the money SO FAR!
I think they were right by calling Berbatov and Keane a flop. If they are to perform next season, im sure they would change their views.
They do have it spot on now tho.
Fern9do
23-12-2008, 06:09 PM
I would like to know how they judge these players though?Is it just based on goals scored?
We are sitting top of the league after the arrival of our flop Keane, while Manchester City are in the relegation zone even though they have the brilliant Robinho scoring goals for fun:)
Apparently Quaresma is also a big flop, I remember reading an article about the little effect he has had at Inter since his big money move from Porto
SuPaStA
23-12-2008, 06:14 PM
Value for money they have both been pretty bad.They were purchased to score goals, which both have been unable to produce.
City have got what they paid for with Robinho and if they were able to make other puchases pay off like that in the next transfer window, they will be climbing up the table.
Genius.
23-12-2008, 07:21 PM
I would like to know how they judge these players though?Is it just based on goals scored?
We are sitting top of the league after the arrival of our flop Keane, while Manchester City are in the relegation zone even though they have the brilliant Robinho scoring goals for fun:)
Apparently Quaresma is also a big flop, I remember reading an article about the little effect he has had at Inter since his big money move from Porto
Simple. They looked at their performances. Keane and Berbatov's performaces have been pretty lame compared to the money that was spent to bring them to the club.
I remember the Sky anchor saying, Robinho has already started to pay the club back by scoring goals.
@ Ferna9do - is Keane the reason why Pool is on top of the log?
Genius.
23-12-2008, 07:29 PM
Still dont think they are flops?
Ok so both demanded insanely inflated transfer fees, but people did expect them to at least justify the fees that were payed for them(not their fault however)
But as the season progressed both are really really struggling. Robbie Keane was left on the bench as Benitez chose Luca Leiva to attempt to get a winning goal against Hull.
Berbatov yet again failed to score in the League for Man Utd.
Now lets take a look at some figures
Cost:
Keane: 20 million
Berbatov: 32 million
Clubs:
Keane: Liverpool
Berbatov: Man United
Respective clubs finishing position last season:
Keane: 4th
Berbatov: 1st
Respective clubs current position:
Keane: 1st
Berbatov: 3rd
Matches played this season:
Keane:
PL: 13
CL: 3
Berbatov:
PL: 12
CL: 2
Goals scored this season:
Keane:
PL: 2
CL: 2
Berbatov:
PL: 2
CL: 4
Assists this season:
Keane:
PL: 4
CL: 0
Berbatov:
PL: 5
CL: 0
Fans opinion before being signed:
Keane: What are we signing him for? How much?
Berbatov: He is exactly the player we need. Spend whatever is takes.
Fans opinion since being signed:
Keane: Should have bought someone like Klass Jan Huntelaar
Berbatov: Should have bought someone like Klass Jan Huntelaar
So it seems Berbatov in terms of statistics alone has been slightly more productive, however he did cost a good 10 million more.
Keane will work harder for the team and Berba is more of a magician.
so who do you feel has flopped the most?
Fern9do
23-12-2008, 08:54 PM
Well if Keane didnt score that brilliant goal against Arsenal we wouldnt be top now.
I dont think Keane has been a flop, i think that we have not played much good footy this season and Keane has rarely gotten a chance to play in the position that Rafa baught him for(i.e just behind Torres). Keane has been somewhat disapointing but wouldnt go as far as saying hes a flop. Hes got 5 goals and if he can chip in with another 10 before May then I would say its been a good signing. Hes not an out and out striker.
I would like to hear what the manu fans think about their moody bulgarian though.
Genius.
24-12-2008, 03:24 AM
Stop making excuses for Keane. He has been a flop. Are you implying that his goal against Arsenal is making him worth all that money?
If a club were to spend big in the transfer window, the player would need to perform and thats the bottom line.
ShoX-WS
24-12-2008, 07:32 AM
Stop making excuses for Keane. He has been a flop. Are you implying that his goal against Arsenal is making him worth all that money?
If a club were to spend big in the transfer window, the player would need to perform and thats the bottom line.
Keane hasn't been a flop ! :eek:
...Let's judge him in May :D
nivek
24-12-2008, 08:58 AM
Well if Keane didnt score that brilliant goal against Arsenal we wouldnt be top now.
I dont think Keane has been a flop, i think that we have not played much good footy this season and Keane has rarely gotten a chance to play in the position that Rafa baught him for(i.e just behind Torres). Keane has been somewhat disapointing but wouldnt go as far as saying hes a flop. Hes got 5 goals and if he can chip in with another 10 before May then I would say its been a good signing. Hes not an out and out striker.
I would like to hear what the manu fans think about their moody bulgarian though.
That goal was far from brilliant.. RVP's goal was class.. the goal keane scored you'd expect any striker to score and it would've been a horrific miss had it not gone in
mercurial
24-12-2008, 09:07 AM
Both goals were brilliant.
nivek
24-12-2008, 09:16 AM
it was just brilliant because it was keane and he didnt miss :)
guru_pitka
24-12-2008, 09:17 AM
Stop making excuses for Keane. He has been a flop. Are you implying that his goal against Arsenal is making him worth all that money?
If a club were to spend big in the transfer window, the player would need to perform and thats the bottom line.
how can you say keane n berbatov have been flops when they have only been at their clubs for 3 months judge them on their first season not first 3 months ,and fyi Keane is a notoriously bad starter in all his season most of his goals have come after the christmas ;) im not saying that he will score 30 goals this season but if he reaches 15-20 goals he would not be classified as a flop
and i agree with fernando that keane has been playing out of postition as a lone striker which he is not ,when El nino is fit you will see the best of keane when they play together
ShoX-WS
24-12-2008, 09:26 AM
how can you say keane n berbatov have been flops when they have only been at their clubs for 3 months judge them on their first season not first 3 months ,and fyi Keane is a notoriously bad starter in all his season most of his goals have come after the christmas ;) im not saying that he will score 30 goals this season but if he reaches 15-20 goals he would not be classified as a flop
and i agree with fernando that keane has been playing out of postition as a lone striker which he is not ,when El nino is fit you will see the best of keane when they play together
Well Said ! +1 ;)
Genius.
24-12-2008, 09:47 AM
how can you say keane n berbatov have been flops when they have only been at their clubs for 3 months judge them on their first season not first 3 months
3 months? We almost at the half way mark for the season.
Keane hasn't been a flop ! :eek:
...Let's judge him in May :D
Both of you are missing the point. As i stated in my first post in this thread. They have flopped so far!!!!!!
If they have a great end to the year, then they would prove that they are worth the pounds but so far how can you honestly say that they deserve those massive price tags?
So if you look at Henry at Barca in his first season. Did he flop? He was played and currently is still played out of position. If you dont produce the goods, you are a flop. This season he is playing like he did at his Arsenal days.
Everybody is trying to sugercoat it. Call it how it is. Even when Torres was playing, Keane never really did much.
IMHO you can only judge a player after their second season at a club. Acclimatising to a new club usually takes a whole season, for a league it can take up to two.
I had a look at Keane's goal, although he would have been expected to score, the way he took it on the half volley was amazing. That was a difficult way to score a goal.
Genius.
24-12-2008, 09:57 AM
One only needs to type in the words Keane Flop in google and you will get thousands of articles.
Why do you guys think he hasnt flopped? I agree that you dont judge a player over half a season. But you have to admit that he has flopped so far.
The mail
Liverpool ready to offload £20m flop Robbie Keane in January, hints Anfield skipper Stevie G
Metro
The 28-year-old has struggled badly at Liverpool since his £20million move from White Hart Lane in the summer – even though the Reds currently sit at the top of the table.
Already there have been suggestions he could be shipped out of the club in January but Keane insists he is going nowhere.
Goal.com
The Irishman is still fighting the 'flop' claims that surround his summer switch to Merseyside...
Genius.
24-12-2008, 09:57 AM
IMHO you can only judge a player after their second season at a club. Acclimatising to a new club usually takes a whole season, for a league it can take up to two.
I had a look at Keane's goal, although he would have been expected to score, the way he took it on the half volley was amazing. That was a difficult way to score a goal.
Ya, the goal was pretty special. Brilliant!!
stefan9
24-12-2008, 10:52 AM
I would like to know how they judge these players though?Is it just based on goals scored?
We are sitting top of the league after the arrival of our flop Keane, while Manchester City are in the relegation zone even though they have the brilliant Robinho scoring goals for fun:)
Apparently Quaresma is also a big flop, I remember reading an article about the little effect he has had at Inter since his big money move from Porto
RQ has had a tough start which was to be expected with a new country and new league. The reason media calls him flop is to do with how much we paid for him.
I am still convinced him will come right it took c.ronaldo at man utd a season or so to find his best form. It took a legend like platini a year to find his feet at juve.
fishfly
24-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Robinho - top performer how is he a top performer if he cannot score away from home + his side is sitting IN relegation zone?
I would consider that the BIGGEST FLOP!
IMO berbatov has been a average seeing as his goals are coming in the CL that should weigh more than the EPL...
but even so... look at rooney... when he first started at united he didn't score that much
It was a fairytale start to his United career and very much a sign of what was to follow. By the end of the 2004/05 campaign he’d amassed 17 goals in 43 appearances and was rightly named PFA Young Player of the Year. for the price tag that was placed on his head...
Much was expected of the England’s 18-year-old hero of Euro 2004 when he swapped Everton, his boyhood club, for the Reds in August of that year. Yet becoming the world’s most expensive teenager - £20m rising to a possible £30m – did little to faze him.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}§ion=playerProfile&teamid=458&bioid=91962
so Berbatov on 6 goals after 14 games is already 11 away with 29 games to go :P
Rooney atm is sitting at 14 games and only 4 goals...
Genius.
24-12-2008, 11:11 AM
You guys are all missing the point here.
We are not saying they will prove to be flops for the rest of their careers. All we are saying is, if you spend that kinda of money - you need some sort of return on investment.
Robinho has scored goals consistantly - thats why he is a TOP and not a Flop :D
Dont even try and justify Berbatov by saying he scored in the CL. Who did he score against? Exactly!
I stream BBC football every week. Very good show! Actually excellent footy show. Last week, they were laughing at how Berbatov is at United. He looks so unhappy and sluggish on the pitch .Even they labeled him a Flop!
Lets be honest here. If you pay that much for a world class striker, how do you expect him to perform? In the league he has scored 2 goals in 13 games, is that ok for you guys? If that be it, then you okes have low standards.
If my club were to buy a striker for so much money, i would feel that he needs to prove himself and perform for the club for spending so much on him.
Can you honestly say that you okes are not dissapointed in Keane and Berba's form? I know I know, they have to settle in bla bla bla. But can u honestly say that up until now, they have proved to be money well spent?
fishfly
24-12-2008, 11:19 AM
If my club were to buy a striker for so much money, i would feel that he needs to prove himself and perform for the club for spending so much on him.
Can you honestly say that you okes are not dissapointed in Keane and Berba's form? I know I know, they have to settle in bla bla bla. But can u honestly say that up until now, they have proved to be money well spent? ya I'm disappointed in berbatov to some degree... but hey look at Thierry Henry...
On 25 June 2007, in an unexpected turn of events, Henry was transferred to FC Barcelona for €24 million. He signed a four-year deal for a reported €6.8 (£4.6) million per season.[28]. He concluded his debut season as the club's top scorer with 19 goals in addition to nine league assists,
I guess it's all relative but I do agree with you about berba in the Spurs match... he looked sickly and unmotivated to play
SuPaStA
24-12-2008, 11:48 AM
ya I'm disappointed in berbatov to some degree... but hey look at Thierry Henry...
I guess it's all relative but I do agree with you about berba in the Spurs match... he looked sickly and unmotivated to play
Henry finished as the clubs top goal scorer in his debut season and was played heavily out of position.So I wouldnt call him a flop, also he was purchased for less than half of Berbatov.
Genius.
24-12-2008, 11:54 AM
@ fishfly - Ya, Henry never lived up to expectation in his first season. Im tempted to say he is a flop.
@ Supa - I agree he was bought for half the amount of Berbatov, but either way he never lived up to expectation. Compare Henry last season to the Henry of this season.
The thing is when you make big transfers like Berba or Robinho - the players HAVE to perform and show they were worth the money.
So far Keane and Berba has been the flops. Im not saying they wont be heros in the next half of the season but come on, they are not producing the goods so FOR NOW they are flops.
stefan9
24-12-2008, 03:18 PM
Transfers and whether they have been a success or not should be judged at the end of the season imho. Many of these paper hacks are just looking for a good story that's why they judge players so soon.
Fern9do
24-12-2008, 07:34 PM
Exactly stefen9. Bet you 100 bucks that the same journos who were calling Deco a great signing will be calling him a flop at the end of the season. I dont take those Sky sports guys too seriously....
Fern9do
24-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Sorry for not replying Genius, i havent been following the thread.
So your google search which throws out sources such as the mail,the metro and goal.com convinces you that hes a flop?
Give me a break!
Calling a player a flop after 3 full months at a club is just plain stupid in my book.
Genius.
24-12-2008, 08:04 PM
Sorry for not replying Genius, i havent been following the thread.
So your google search which throws out sources such as the mail,the metro and goal.com convinces you that hes a flop?
Give me a break!
Calling a player a flop after 3 full months at a club is just plain stupid in my book.
No, me watching football and knowing how he performs calls him a flop. I merely googled Keane Flop and was greeted with thousands of different sites.
If he isnt a flop, then what is he? Is his performance so far AMAZING? Has he lived up to his massive transfer price? If the answer to both those questions are no, then how can you say he is not a flop?
I think Deco is proving to be a flop - thats my personal opinion. Im glad Barca sold him. Sky sports is the number one broadcaster of football in the world. How can you say their presenters are a joke?
nivek
24-12-2008, 08:23 PM
yeah its a matter of opinion... i know plenty liverpool fans and they all think hes worthless
Fern9do
24-12-2008, 08:37 PM
Just because they are the biggest doesnt make them the best Genius. I prefere reading The Times and the Guardian.
Look its your right to call him a flop, i just dont understand why anyone whould do it after a player has been at a club for only 3-4 months.
Sky's already looking like the twats that they are for claiming that Deco is a brilliant signing, the very same journalists will be calling him a flop come May.
Genius.
25-12-2008, 03:22 AM
The Times and Guardian are also calling them flops. Everybody is. I dont think there is any journo out there actually saying that they have proved to be worth their transfer amount.
LoL - you think its only Sly sports that is saying that :D Everybody is saying they are flops.
Genius.
25-12-2008, 03:26 AM
Fromn the Times. ;) LoL
Lets face it, For Rafa to sign Robbie Keane was a mistake, a grave one at that considering the fee he paid for him. It seems he is beginning to realise that now and his recent treatment of Keane would suggest that he is trying to frustrate him and move him on to seek first tema footie elsewhere.
Fern9do
25-12-2008, 04:32 AM
Well whoeva wrote that sounds like an idiot...cant even spell team!
Link please.
Genius.
25-12-2008, 12:28 PM
You dont honestly think that Keane hasnt flopped? You only think it is Sky sports journos? Come on Fern9do, its not that hard to admit. He has flopped up until now.
Fern9do
25-12-2008, 01:47 PM
I honestly think that your only making a fool of yourself for calling a player a flop after hes been at a club for 4 months.
Give it AT LEAST a season.
I never said Keane has been amazing, hes been dissapointing but thats largely due to the fact that hes been playing out of his best position as a result of Torres' injury problems.
I think in Keane,Gerrard and Torres we have the attacking players with the ability of taking us to the title. But like nivek says its a matter of opinion. Some Pool fans think hes worthless while others think Dirk Kuyt is a great striker.
Fern9do
25-12-2008, 01:51 PM
And before you go google "Dirk Kuyt goals 2008/09" ...Yes i know hes our leading scorer(Or at least our striker with the most goals) in the league this season:)
ShoX-WS
25-12-2008, 02:00 PM
And before you go google "Dirk Kuyt goals 2008/09" ...Yes i know hes our leading scorer(Or at least our striker with the most goals) in the league this season:)
Yeah, Gerrard is right up there as well....
As for Keane, to me, I think he will improve as the season goes on.
Waiting for Torres to return....:D
nivek
25-12-2008, 02:34 PM
everyones a liverpool fan this season :)
ShoX-WS
25-12-2008, 02:41 PM
everyones a liverpool fan this season :)
But...umm...why aren't you one? :D
Genius.
25-12-2008, 03:18 PM
I honestly think that your only making a fool of yourself for calling a player a flop after hes been at a club for 4 months.
Give it AT LEAST a season.
I never said Keane has been amazing, hes been dissapointing but thats largely due to the fact that hes been playing out of his best position as a result of Torres' injury problems.
I think in Keane,Gerrard and Torres we have the attacking players with the ability of taking us to the title. But like nivek says its a matter of opinion. Some Pool fans think hes worthless while others think Dirk Kuyt is a great striker.
You making yourself look silly with your replies mate. I never ever said that Keane was a complete flop and he will end his career as a flop at Pool. All i always said was, up until now he is a flop.
All the Sky journos ever said is, that him and Berba are proving to be a flop so far into the season.
You seem to have a problem with that statement. We are only judging him on the half of the season and he has flopped. Its not that hard to admit, but clearly someone is wearing Liverpool goggles.
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:25 PM
Our flop just scored two goals...7 goals now...If you ask me you are the one whos looking silly Genius.
ShoX-WS
26-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Our flop just scored two goals...7 goals now...If you ask me you are the one whos looking silly Genius.
+1 ;)
Genius.
26-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Our flop just scored two goals...7 goals now...If you ask me you are the one whos looking silly Genius.
Whatever dude. You taking it as an insult, so ill rather stop. Nobody is saying Keane is worthless and will prove to a complete flop for the rest of his career. Nobody is saying that he is a bad signing.
All we are saying is that up until now, he has flopped. If he turns it around and scores 30 goals for the rest of the season, i would be the first to say that he was a great signing, but looking at his performances so far in the season - he has not proved to be worth the money.
Take those goggles off for a second, and maybe you will understand what i am saying.
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:34 PM
Keane is on Fire!! chasing every ball:) if this is a flop then I hope we sign another flop in January.
Genius.
26-12-2008, 06:35 PM
Keane is on Fire!! chasing every ball:) if this is a flop then I hope we sign another flop in January.
Question:
Do you think Henry flopped at Barca last season?
ShoX-WS
26-12-2008, 06:36 PM
Keane is on Fire!! chasing every ball:) if this is a flop then I hope we sign another flop in January.
:D HAHAHAHA Nice one !! We need flop defenders and flop midfielders. I think our flop keane will make a great partnership with Torres ;)
ShoX-WS
26-12-2008, 06:37 PM
Question:
Do you think Henry flopped at Barca last season?
No. It took him quite long to gel into the team, similar to Keane
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:39 PM
Once Nando comes back its gona be Keane,Gerrard and Torres terorising defenders. Man i cant wait!:)
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:42 PM
I dont think henry flopped. I dont believe in using the flop label, because it can come back to haunt you and make you look like an idiot.
ShoX-WS
26-12-2008, 06:42 PM
Yeah, the commentators were saying he could be back for Sunday's game against Newcastle United
Genius.
26-12-2008, 06:49 PM
I dont think henry flopped. I dont believe in using the flop label, because it can come back to haunt you and make you look like an idiot.
LoL
Its not that you are saying that the player is a complete flop!! Just not worth what he was made out to be CURRENTLY!!!
If you cannot understand that - then i dont know.
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:51 PM
And for the record im not taking anything personal Genius.
Fern9do
26-12-2008, 06:54 PM
Genius- Keane is a flop.up until now (DECEMBER2008)
Genius- Keane is a great signing.up until now (MAY2009)
That is my problem genius. Why bother calling people flops 4 months into the season? What perpous does it serve?
Genius.
27-12-2008, 02:53 AM
Genius- Keane is a flop.up until now (DECEMBER2008)
Genius- Keane is a great signing.up until now (MAY2009)
That is my problem genius. Why bother calling people flops 4 months into the season? What perpous does it serve?
Glad you not taking it personal. This is what forums are about, expressing opinions.
I am of the opinion, like most footy journos out there that Keane is yet to prove his worth. Surely me and 1000 of articles cannot all be wrong. I am yet to see an article on the internet saying that Keane has been a great signing SO FAR!
We have all the right to judge a player at anytime in the season. How boring would football commentary be, if one is not allowed to pass judgement cos the season is not complete yet. I think it is a fair to make an assement during any part of the season.
At the moment Keane hasnt performed as he should, and i think all the journos have a right to brand him as a flop for now. Keane isnt the first player they have done this to. It is common practice that if u have a high transfer tag and you dont perform, the media is goin to call you a flop. Keane is not special. This has happened countless times.
I am not hating on Keane - i hope he turns out to be a great signing. I am just commenting on what i see every week - he has not lived up to his massive transfer tag. There are many reasons why he is not performing, but the truth is, he hasnt lived up to it yet and if you are honest, you would agree.
Fern9do
27-12-2008, 08:46 AM
I have agreed that he has had a dissapointing start, but thats all its been, a bad start.
I think weve discussed this to death so lets agree to disagree?:)
Genius.
27-12-2008, 10:57 AM
Ya, no worries man. I felt the same way about Henry last season.
I hope Keane helps Liverpool to win the league, he is a class player and hopefully its only a matter of time before he shows why Rafa has so much faith in him.
fishfly
29-12-2008, 01:52 AM
I hope Keane helps Liverpool to win the league, he is a class player and hopefully its only a matter of time before he shows why Rafa has so much faith in him. rofl that would mean Torres will flop this season? :P
Genius.
29-12-2008, 09:44 AM
rofl that would mean Torres will flop this season? :P
Who ever said Torres would flop? All that is said, is hopefully Keane will contribute to the team.
SuPaStA
19-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Keane is working hard at being classed a flop at the end of the season.Pathetic performance by him again today.
Genius.
20-01-2009, 12:35 AM
LoL, where is Ferna9do now - Keane was hopeless again tonight.
The_Pumpkin_King
20-01-2009, 12:46 AM
never judge a player on his first season ;)
Fern9do
20-01-2009, 09:32 AM
LoL, where is Ferna9do now - Keane was hopeless again tonight.
Right Here. Your right oh Genius. Keane is a hopeless flop.
fishfly
21-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Berbatov? what about Robhino? He's performance haven't been all that yet his attitude seems all that...
brixton tower
22-01-2009, 05:14 AM
The biggest transfer flop, IMHO, has been Sean Dundee when he went from Kalsruher to Liverpool. He only played five games, scored zero goals and within a year he was back in Germany. A bit of journeyman between Germany and Austria, Dundee was last seen playing for Amazulu.
Liverpool's website cites Dundee as "possibly the worst player to to have ever don the red of Liverpool".
The biggest transfer flop, IMHO, has been Sean Dundee when he went from Kalsruher to Liverpool. He only played five games, scored zero goals and within a year he was back in Germany. A bit of journeyman between Germany and Austria, Dundee was last seen playing for Amazulu.
Liverpool's website cites Dundee as "possibly the worst player to to have ever don the red of Liverpool".
LOL. He's not even a regular at Amazulu.
SuPaStA
22-01-2009, 10:54 AM
Berbatov? what about Robhino? He's performance haven't been all that yet his attitude seems all that...
Robinho I would say is the only big transfer who is actually paying off for the club, 12 goals (2nd in the EPLS top scorers) in the season and has been the reason they have won a few games.
Berbatov on the other hand was paid 30 million+ and has only produced 5 goals in the league.If you paying that much money for a striker you expect him to actually score goals.
Randhir
22-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Berbatov on the other hand was paid 30 million+
You know, I don't that money goes to the player... ;)
SuPaStA
22-01-2009, 11:16 AM
You know, I don't that money goes to the player... ;)
I'm fully aware of that,I should have phrased it Differently.
brixton tower
22-01-2009, 11:42 AM
LOL. He's not even a regular at Amazulu.
I seriously don't think they signed him for his prowess in the 18-yard area but more as an inspiration to the youngsters in the squad.
He's 36 and has ballooned in weight, probably due to a diet of pies and coke. Deep down I feel sorry for the guy, he was duped by the Germans into dumping South Africa, now he walks down the streets of Durban and no-one knows him as opposed to Mark Fish whose a hero everywhere he goes in SA.
I seriously don't think they signed him for his prowess in the 18-yard area but more as an inspiration to the youngsters in the squad.
He's 36 and has ballooned in weight, probably due to a diet of pies and coke. Deep down I feel sorry for the guy, he was duped by the Germans into dumping South Africa, now he walks down the streets of Durban and no-one knows him as opposed to Mark Fish whose a hero everywhere he goes in SA.
I sometimes don't feel sorry for him. He doesn't regret for choosing Germany over Bafana Bafana. I'm sure most of the ppl here would choose to play for Zim than Bafana Bafana. :)
brixton tower
22-01-2009, 12:04 PM
I sometimes don't feel sorry for him. He doesn't regret for choosing Germany over Bafana Bafana. I'm sure most of the ppl here would chose to play for Zim than Bafana Bafana. :)
**brixton_tower puts on his sarcastic voice**
But he was young and impressionable, and saw dollar signs when he was offered the possibility of playing for Germany. That dream came to naught and no we're stuck in South Africa with an overweight player whose barely a shadow of his former self(which wasn't good if your a Pool fan).
SuPaStA
01-02-2009, 05:16 PM
Keane is still on track for flop of the season:
Chelsea v Liverpool, probably biggest match for them this season but....
Robbie Keane is left out of the 18-man squad amid rumours at Anfield that he's on his way back to Tottenham, with Aaron Lennon coming the other way.
Fern9do
01-02-2009, 05:54 PM
This may be the reason why Keane is a flop.....
It was put to Benitez his lack of faith in the striker is strange given he spent £20m on Keane. “The club. The club spend £20m,” Benitez shot back, reviving the complaint that led him to abandon contract talks: that he does not have control over transfers.
Poor guy never stood a chance.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... =12&page=2
Benitez is putting his big ego ahead of what's best for the club. But ag who knows maybe David Ngog will come off the bench and score the winning goal and Rafa will once again be hailed as a tactical genius.:rolleyes:
Fern9do
01-02-2009, 05:55 PM
Aaron Lennon? Mite as well have kept Jermaine effing pennant!
Fern9do
02-02-2009, 12:56 PM
Jose has removed Quaresma from their Champions league squad for the rest of the season. Looks like he may be laving the San Siro.
Aaron Lennon? Mite as well have kept Jermaine effing pennant!
+1
I'll take Quaresma. Maybe steal Arshavin ;)
fishfly
02-02-2009, 02:37 PM
Jose has removed Quaresma from their Champions league squad for the rest of the season. Looks like he may be laving the San Siro. lol I guess Jose didn't like his attitude of not attacking every ball or listening to coaches.
Quaresma sure has skill but his attitude is worse than Paul Gascoigne
mercurial
02-02-2009, 02:39 PM
Biggest transfer flop = Scolari's move to Chelsea :p
Genius.
02-02-2009, 07:17 PM
So is it safe to say now that Keane was a flop???
SuPaStA
02-02-2009, 07:18 PM
Could we say the biggest flop of the decade?
How long did he last a 120 odd days?
Fern9do
02-02-2009, 07:19 PM
IMO he never got a chance. Was treated like crap by Rafa. Just when he started scoring regularly he was ommited from the squad.
hj2k_x
02-02-2009, 07:19 PM
Could we say the biggest flop of the decade?
How long did he last a 120 odd days?
No way. Did you ever see Eric Djemba Djemba play for United? :o
SuPaStA
02-02-2009, 07:21 PM
No way. Did you ever see Eric Djemba Djemba play for United? :o
He lasted longer than a few months.
hj2k_x
02-02-2009, 07:22 PM
He lasted longer than a few months.
And he was unashamedly dire throughout. Worse than Nani - much worse.
Keane is a good player, just underused and mistreated by Rafa. Watch him improve at Spurs.
Fern9do
02-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Keane did not flop. The manager just didn't want him. He was left out of the squad even though he was scoring for an unkown 19 year old French striker
SuPaStA
02-02-2009, 07:24 PM
take that back!!
Nobody is worse than nani aka Michael Jackson's son.
or as its said on some parts of the forum....just give him some time he will be the next ronaldo :p
hj2k_x
02-02-2009, 07:27 PM
take that back!!
Nobody is worse than nani aka Michael Jackson's son.
or as its said on some parts of the forum....just give him some time he will be the next ronaldo :p
Then you have not seen Djemba Djemba play. We managed to get Villa to pay us actual cash money for him. He went there. And still sucked.
smokey
02-02-2009, 09:35 PM
so, what are the odds on quaresma being the flop of the "rest" of the season? seeing as we have kene as the flop of the first half?
fishfly
03-02-2009, 12:38 AM
lmao I think Keane deserves the BIGGEST TRASFER FLOP THIS SEASON thank you very much :P
I dno't think the english game will suit Quaresma I see another flop on the way. bwahahahaha
stefan9
03-02-2009, 12:40 AM
Will Quaresma could do the treble. Don't know of many players who have the distinction of flopping in all 3 big leagues. RQ has done la liga and serie a only epl to go.
I just hope we got an option on drogba or someone as part of the deal. Quaresma was one of the biggest flops in our history.:mad:
smokey
03-02-2009, 01:22 AM
Will Quaresma could do the treble. Don't know of many players who have the distinction of flopping in all 3 big leagues. RQ has done la liga and serie a only epl to go.
I just hope we got an option on drogba or someone as part of the deal. Quaresma was one of the biggest flops in our history.:mad:
i would be more than happy if you guys got an option on drogba. as far as i am concerned, he should piss off if he wants to play airy fairy football. tosser.
lol@treble :) though sadly, i agree with you...
mercurial
03-02-2009, 07:53 AM
IMO he never got a chance. Was treated like crap by Rafa. Just when he started scoring regularly he was ommited from the squad.
+1
stefan9
03-02-2009, 10:45 AM
i would be more than happy if you guys got an option on drogba. as far as i am concerned, he should piss off if he wants to play airy fairy football. tosser.
lol@treble :) though sadly, i agree with you...
Drogba only plays well for Jose. He is more than welcome here. a Motivated drogba is a great player. The drogba at chelsea has no motivation and hasn't had any since jose left.
smokey
03-02-2009, 08:10 PM
Drogba only plays well for Jose. He is more than welcome here. a Motivated drogba is a great player. The drogba at chelsea has no motivation and hasn't had any since jose left.
Sadder words I've never heard. Think hes a tw@t of note, but dig him as a "motivated" player as you say.