ToxicBunny
08-05-2011, 12:45 PM
Much better performance in the second half from the Sharks...
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Pixual
08-05-2011, 06:32 PM
Not
He's so inept they should call him Mr. Penalty. He can't even throw a ball into a lineout properly. He are a beeg ****.
He's so inept they should call him Mr. Penalty. He can't even throw a ball into a lineout properly. He are a beeg ****.
iCare
08-05-2011, 08:17 PM
was at the game last night, at first I thought Deja vu story, stormers repeat. what is with JP, man but he can but stuff things up sometimes, drives me insane
Pixual
09-05-2011, 08:15 AM
If they get through to the playoffs it would be a miracle.
McT
09-05-2011, 09:20 AM
If they get through to the playoffs it would be a miracle.
So pessimistic? :confused:
So pessimistic? :confused:
Creature
09-05-2011, 10:41 AM
Bring Mvovo......
hungrybeaver
09-05-2011, 12:13 PM
I think Bosman is not good enough for the Sharks. Let Jacobs start for a game or two rather.. the man has been pushing himself lately when he comes off the bench! Jacobs deserves a start. Or you know, play Burden at inside centre. I'm serious :D
He's so inept they should call him Mr. Penalty. He can't even throw a ball into a lineout properly. He are a beeg ****.
Bismaark > John Smit. Smit is the one who battles at lineouts. Lineout decison making + ball throwing ability seems to have been lost on Smit.
He's so inept they should call him Mr. Penalty. He can't even throw a ball into a lineout properly. He are a beeg ****.
Bismaark > John Smit. Smit is the one who battles at lineouts. Lineout decison making + ball throwing ability seems to have been lost on Smit.
Pixual
09-05-2011, 05:20 PM
Agreed on Jacobs. He made a big impact, but I don't know if he should start. He's also had *** games.
Smit and Du Plessis are both useless at throwing. We lost our first three with Du Plessis on Saturday and then he also threw a wild punch right in front of the linesman. Idiot.
Smit and Du Plessis are both useless at throwing. We lost our first three with Du Plessis on Saturday and then he also threw a wild punch right in front of the linesman. Idiot.
Cray
10-05-2011, 09:15 AM
I think Jacobs has done enough to at least warrant a start, if he has a bad game then fine but I just think he offers more options than Bosman.
Anyone know what happened with Keegan's hearing?
Anyone know what happened with Keegan's hearing?
MongooseMan
10-05-2011, 02:16 PM
Banned for 2 weeks according to news24.
grapgat
10-05-2011, 11:13 PM
Two week ban for Daniel, but since we have a bye - its only one match that he'll miss.
Creature
11-05-2011, 11:32 AM
Ai ai ai, agree with Jacobs having to start. Send Bosman back to Cheetahs
Cray
11-05-2011, 03:38 PM
I seriously hope that Sharks talent scout some young centers for next season, not sure how much longer Terblanche can last and not a fan of Bosman at all..
Chris
11-05-2011, 03:59 PM
Purchase Doppies - a guy with his talent should be utilised better elsewhere. Jaque Fourie made the plunge, Doppies should too! :D (Even if it is too the Sharks ;) )
hungrybeaver
13-05-2011, 10:02 AM
Purchase Doppies - a guy with his talent should be utilised better elsewhere. Jaque Fourie made the plunge, Doppies should too! :D (Even if it is too the Sharks ;) )
We shouldn't have gotten rid of Adrian "tackles-like-a-car-accident" Strauss :D
We've got the forwards, we've got the scrumhalf/flyhalf combo, and we've got the back 3 sorted. I hope the Sharks make getting a good centre pairing a priority for the tournaments ahead.
We shouldn't have gotten rid of Adrian "tackles-like-a-car-accident" Strauss :D
We've got the forwards, we've got the scrumhalf/flyhalf combo, and we've got the back 3 sorted. I hope the Sharks make getting a good centre pairing a priority for the tournaments ahead.
Korn1
21-05-2011, 02:44 PM
Joh this game is going to be exciting!
sand_man
21-05-2011, 07:28 PM
Or not...
dal2000
21-05-2011, 08:59 PM
Most anticipated, worst to watch. Looks like they had too many donuts on their bye instead of more practice. We can't beat the Stormers, Bulls or Crusaders in the Super Rugby; we won't be winning this competition. Oh well, we'll get the CC again sometime :wtf:
Mephisto_Helix
21-05-2011, 09:06 PM
Yeah, what a meh game from the Sharks ..... dunno why they play so shyte every time they have a bye, ffs you just had time off you chops :mad:
sand_man
21-05-2011, 10:18 PM
Was a horrible game. Brilliant 1st 20 from the Bulls then not much else from either side for the next 60... Alberts and Davidson possibly had their worst game of the season by some margin and without the dynamic Kanko at 8 the balance in the loose seemed to be missing. Not enough fire and passion from the powerful Sharks tight 5. They were some what limp... Oh well....
McT
21-05-2011, 10:32 PM
Lacked intensity. Far too many handling errors. Allowed the Bulls to dominate with their game plan.
Places huge pressure on the team to make the play offs :(
Places huge pressure on the team to make the play offs :(
MickeyD
21-05-2011, 10:36 PM
Bakkies Botha and Chilliboy Ralapele got under their Sharks' forwards' skin and made them lose focus.
Far too many handling errors and high risk rugby cost the Sharks dearly... running the ball inside their 22, etc.
Far too many handling errors and high risk rugby cost the Sharks dearly... running the ball inside their 22, etc.
gdiza
21-05-2011, 11:11 PM
I feel sorry for all my sharks friends... they did play somer lekker ***!
Pixual
23-05-2011, 07:23 AM
That was woeful, but I saw it coming a few weeks ago. There is no fire in these guys, no desire to win this thing. They had so much possession and they just didn't know what to do with it. Bulls will go past them because the Cheetahs are also going to whip our asses. And the Waratahs.
hungrybeaver
23-05-2011, 07:51 AM
Far too many basic errors for us to to even think about contesting the Bulls.
Whats up with the backline lately? The line is way too flat and they take forever to get back in position. At the beginning of the season we had a potent line, but now... :rolleyes:
Whats up with the backline lately? The line is way too flat and they take forever to get back in position. At the beginning of the season we had a potent line, but now... :rolleyes:
McT
23-05-2011, 08:16 AM
That was woeful, but I saw it coming a few weeks ago. There is no fire in these guys, no desire to win this thing. They had so much possession and they just didn't know what to do with it. Bulls will go past them because the Cheetahs are also going to whip our asses. And the Waratahs.
Are you a Sharks supporter or is Bulls or Cheetahs? Yes, there were a lot of errors and it was painful to watch, but surely a supporter tries to find the positives and looks for the way to the top? Maybe my optimism blinds me to something which should be obvious to me about some imminent collapse. Be that as it may, I am happy to support the Sharks through thick and thin ;)
Are you a Sharks supporter or is Bulls or Cheetahs? Yes, there were a lot of errors and it was painful to watch, but surely a supporter tries to find the positives and looks for the way to the top? Maybe my optimism blinds me to something which should be obvious to me about some imminent collapse. Be that as it may, I am happy to support the Sharks through thick and thin ;)
Pixual
23-05-2011, 09:46 AM
Be a supporter, but don't be blind about it. This team is nothing like they were in the Currie Cup last year. I'm afraid Plumtree has made some bad mistakes in player retention and selection. Lambie is just too erratic at flyhalf and Terblanche cannot play at centre. He's a fullback. Whether he's better than Ludik is debatable.
My positional opinions:
I would seriously consider playing Kankowski at inside centre long before I put Terblanche or Jacobs in that slot.
Drop Bismarck Du Plessis from the starting lineup and play Burdon instead.
Make a serious offer to Willem De Waal and get him playing here. The man is the most under-rated flyhalf in the country. I think he'd rock at the Sharks. What have the Stormers done with him?
I would give the captaincy to Keegan Daniel.
My positional opinions:
I would seriously consider playing Kankowski at inside centre long before I put Terblanche or Jacobs in that slot.
Drop Bismarck Du Plessis from the starting lineup and play Burdon instead.
Make a serious offer to Willem De Waal and get him playing here. The man is the most under-rated flyhalf in the country. I think he'd rock at the Sharks. What have the Stormers done with him?
I would give the captaincy to Keegan Daniel.
hungrybeaver
23-05-2011, 11:12 AM
I agree. (except the De Waal part :p)
Lets not forget Mvovo. We've a potential Springbok starter warming our bench (why oh why is he not starting?!). Odwa is not as fast as he used to be and Mvovs is fast and powerful - when he gets the ball things happen. Something in our attacking play has changed for whatever reason. Lambie no longer looks to get the ball out to the wing as quick as he can and instead opts for crash ball with a forward or centre. Maybe the coaches have tried to go in a new direction and it is not paying off. Whatever the reason is they need to go back to basics.
We cannot have Deysel, Alberts and Botes playing at the same time. Daniels or Kanko need to be starting because they create opportunities for others to feed off.
We need to get our A into G for these last few weeks. Its the Waratahs this weekend and they can do some serious damage if we're not up to scratch.
Lets not forget Mvovo. We've a potential Springbok starter warming our bench (why oh why is he not starting?!). Odwa is not as fast as he used to be and Mvovs is fast and powerful - when he gets the ball things happen. Something in our attacking play has changed for whatever reason. Lambie no longer looks to get the ball out to the wing as quick as he can and instead opts for crash ball with a forward or centre. Maybe the coaches have tried to go in a new direction and it is not paying off. Whatever the reason is they need to go back to basics.
We cannot have Deysel, Alberts and Botes playing at the same time. Daniels or Kanko need to be starting because they create opportunities for others to feed off.
We need to get our A into G for these last few weeks. Its the Waratahs this weekend and they can do some serious damage if we're not up to scratch.
Pixual
23-05-2011, 04:20 PM
De Waal is a points machine. When he was playing for the Cheetahs he was pinpoint all the time. I rate him higher than Morne Steyn.
MickeyD
23-05-2011, 05:28 PM
De Waal is a points machine. When he was playing for the Cheetahs he was pinpoint all the time. I rate him higher than Morne Steyn.
That I can agree with... wonder if the Stormers are also chasing after him?
That I can agree with... wonder if the Stormers are also chasing after him?
Mephisto_Helix
23-05-2011, 05:33 PM
De Waal is the old school of boring ..... all he can do is kick. Nothing else at all. He got dropped from the Stormers.
Ou grote
23-05-2011, 05:56 PM
De Waal is the old school of boring ..... all he can do is kick. Nothing else at all. He got dropped from the Stormers.
That's pretty much it, he telegraphs exactly what he is going to do.
Brilliant kicker, except in the currie cup final.
That's pretty much it, he telegraphs exactly what he is going to do.
Brilliant kicker, except in the currie cup final.
Pixual
23-05-2011, 06:48 PM
He may be boring, but he can win you games with his boot. He cant do any worse than any one else the Sharks have played at flyhalf since the French guy left.
My backline for the Sharks would look like this:
9 - Cockett
10 - De Waal
11 - Mvovo
12 - Kankowski
13 - Strauss
14 - Pietersen
15 - Lambie
My backline for the Sharks would look like this:
9 - Cockett
10 - De Waal
11 - Mvovo
12 - Kankowski
13 - Strauss
14 - Pietersen
15 - Lambie
Mephisto_Helix
23-05-2011, 07:24 PM
Yeah I'd rather stick with someone like Lambie at 10 because he shows creativity and best of all, he's still young and learning as he goes. I do also wish they would play Mvovo much more, he is a nice talent to have. I'm getting peed off with McLeod, he's never been good and now he's even worse, meh.
hungrybeaver
24-05-2011, 07:53 AM
He may be boring, but he can win you games with his boot. He cant do any worse than any one else the Sharks have played at flyhalf since the French guy left.
My backline for the Sharks would look like this:
9 - Cockett
10 - De Waal
11 - Mvovo
12 - Kankowski
13 - Strauss
14 - Pietersen
15 - Lambie
We should never have let him go.
I'd really like to see Burden at centre; he played wing before being moved to hooker and with his pace and size he could be devastating in the backline.
Craig Burden was one of the most impressive wings in the Currie Cup in 2006, but on the insistence of then Sharks coach - now Springbok assistant coach - Dick Muir the Maritzburg College old boy attended the Murray Mexted Academy in New Zealand to start his conversion from an outside back to a tight forward.
Link (http://www.rugby365.com/opinion/news/1987280.htm)
My backline for the Sharks would look like this:
9 - Cockett
10 - De Waal
11 - Mvovo
12 - Kankowski
13 - Strauss
14 - Pietersen
15 - Lambie
We should never have let him go.
I'd really like to see Burden at centre; he played wing before being moved to hooker and with his pace and size he could be devastating in the backline.
Craig Burden was one of the most impressive wings in the Currie Cup in 2006, but on the insistence of then Sharks coach - now Springbok assistant coach - Dick Muir the Maritzburg College old boy attended the Murray Mexted Academy in New Zealand to start his conversion from an outside back to a tight forward.
Link (http://www.rugby365.com/opinion/news/1987280.htm)
Pixual
24-05-2011, 01:36 PM
Yeah I'd rather stick with someone like Lambie at 10 because he shows creativity and best of all, he's still young and learning as he goes. I do also wish they would play Mvovo much more, he is a nice talent to have. I'm getting peed off with McLeod, he's never been good and now he's even worse, meh.
At least he's better than Pienaar! Please don't ever let us be afflicted with that sorry excuse of a rugby player again. :)
At least he's better than Pienaar! Please don't ever let us be afflicted with that sorry excuse of a rugby player again. :)
Cray
26-05-2011, 08:28 AM
I'd really like to see Burden at centre; he played wing before being moved to hooker and with his pace and size he could be devastating in the backline.
I think this could work, he has the size and pace, would certainly be worth a try considering how uninspiring our current centres are.
I think this could work, he has the size and pace, would certainly be worth a try considering how uninspiring our current centres are.
dal2000
26-05-2011, 09:31 AM
Be a supporter, but don't be blind about it. This team is nothing like they were in the Currie Cup last year. I'm afraid Plumtree has made some bad mistakes in player retention and selection. Lambie is just too erratic at flyhalf and Terblanche cannot play at centre. He's a fullback. Whether he's better than Ludik is debatable.
My positional opinions:
I would seriously consider playing Kankowski at inside centre long before I put Terblanche or Jacobs in that slot.
Drop Bismarck Du Plessis from the starting lineup and play Burdon instead.
Make a serious offer to Willem De Waal and get him playing here. The man is the most under-rated flyhalf in the country. I think he'd rock at the Sharks. What have the Stormers done with him?
I would give the captaincy to Keegan Daniel.
Some interesting ideas, I like it though!
My positional opinions:
I would seriously consider playing Kankowski at inside centre long before I put Terblanche or Jacobs in that slot.
Drop Bismarck Du Plessis from the starting lineup and play Burdon instead.
Make a serious offer to Willem De Waal and get him playing here. The man is the most under-rated flyhalf in the country. I think he'd rock at the Sharks. What have the Stormers done with him?
I would give the captaincy to Keegan Daniel.
Some interesting ideas, I like it though!
dal2000
26-05-2011, 09:35 AM
The very core of the problem is that our centres are fairies. Seriously Terblanche at centre is a horrible Idea, he's just too old. Bosman is just too useless, and well we don't have much others. Our team has been screwed up since the CC. Sharks management only have themselves to blame.
Pixual
26-05-2011, 01:49 PM
The very core of the problem is that our centres are fairies. Seriously Terblanche at centre is a horrible Idea, he's just too old. Bosman is just too useless, and well we don't have much others. Our team has been screwed up since the CC. Sharks management only have themselves to blame.
Agree. This is usually what happens to them in a season after they have done well. Too much puza and pizza and running around telling everyone how good they are. In rugby you're only as good as your last game.
But one thing that really sucks is this new S15 format. Like I really want to watch us play the Bulls again?
Agree. This is usually what happens to them in a season after they have done well. Too much puza and pizza and running around telling everyone how good they are. In rugby you're only as good as your last game.
But one thing that really sucks is this new S15 format. Like I really want to watch us play the Bulls again?
Cray
26-05-2011, 02:17 PM
But one thing that really sucks is this new S15 format. Like I really want to watch us play the Bulls again?
Amen, would much rather see us play the Reds. With regards to recruitment or lack thereof, am not surprised it's such a mess up with Rudolf Straeuli in charge..
Amen, would much rather see us play the Reds. With regards to recruitment or lack thereof, am not surprised it's such a mess up with Rudolf Straeuli in charge..
Pixual
26-05-2011, 03:07 PM
Strauli. Go figure...
DJ...
26-05-2011, 03:19 PM
I'd really like to see Burden at centre; he played wing before being moved to hooker and with his pace and size he could be devastating in the backline.
Well he has no hope at hooker for the foreseeable future and he certainly couldn't worsen the backline at the moment...:o
Well he has no hope at hooker for the foreseeable future and he certainly couldn't worsen the backline at the moment...:o
hungrybeaver
29-05-2011, 09:16 AM
A good win yesterday. Nice to see our tackling is better and our ball carrying skills improved tremendously. Including Smit in the starting line up helped the forwards imo; it seems we've needed a leader in the pack. JP had a good game and Mvovs didn't see much of the ball. All in all, much better performance and I hope we can keep our heads in the next 3 games.
Damn the stadium was empty! and dead quiet too! It felt very strange walking to get a beer with no queues at all!
Damn the stadium was empty! and dead quiet too! It felt very strange walking to get a beer with no queues at all!
Pixual
29-05-2011, 10:30 AM
If it wasn't for JP's try at that crucial time I think we may have lost that one. Thankfully we didn't!
We still have big problems in midfield, which is where the 2nd 'Tahs try came from. Bosman is just not hacking it there. Neither is Terblanche. Beast had a big impact again, which is good to see.
We still have big problems in midfield, which is where the 2nd 'Tahs try came from. Bosman is just not hacking it there. Neither is Terblanche. Beast had a big impact again, which is good to see.
porchrat
30-05-2011, 03:34 PM
A good win yesterday. Nice to see our tackling is better and our ball carrying skills improved tremendously. Including Smit in the starting line up helped the forwards imo; it seems we've needed a leader in the pack.
I agree that he is a good leader. He doesn't make the sort of weird decisions that Terblanche makes. Like going for posts when we're 15 points behind and our lineouts are dominating.
At the same time though our scrum was getting very very badly hammered in that first half. Once we had swapped out the props it improved dramatically. It is no good being a good leader if you can't hold your own in the scrum.
I agree that he is a good leader. He doesn't make the sort of weird decisions that Terblanche makes. Like going for posts when we're 15 points behind and our lineouts are dominating.
At the same time though our scrum was getting very very badly hammered in that first half. Once we had swapped out the props it improved dramatically. It is no good being a good leader if you can't hold your own in the scrum.
Cray
31-05-2011, 08:53 AM
Rhodes got 6 weeks from the judiciary, doesn't bode well for Deysel
sand_man
31-05-2011, 08:57 AM
Rhodes got 6 weeks from the judiciary, doesn't bode well for DeyselAnd how many weeks does the retaliating player get?
Cray
31-05-2011, 09:01 AM
And how many weeks does the retaliating player get?
No punishment (which is bollocks IMO)
Quote from the judiciary officer..
"Piutau's reaction was that of someone who had been seriously endangered (and) to impose a sanction in these circumstances would not reflect the effect on Piutau of the incident and a reaction that was the product of shock rather than retaliatory intent."
No punishment (which is bollocks IMO)
Quote from the judiciary officer..
"Piutau's reaction was that of someone who had been seriously endangered (and) to impose a sanction in these circumstances would not reflect the effect on Piutau of the incident and a reaction that was the product of shock rather than retaliatory intent."
APoc184
31-05-2011, 12:31 PM
Rhodes got 6 weeks from the judiciary, doesn't bode well for Deysel
2 Weeks for Deysel
2 Weeks for Deysel
sand_man
31-05-2011, 12:32 PM
2 Weeks for DeyselWow, so what's the difference? The quality of the lawyers?
Cray
31-05-2011, 12:44 PM
A cynic might comment that it might have more to do with the nationalities of the judicial officer and the accused. However in this case I think the bans seem pretty fair.
I think the fact that Deysels could be construed as a high and dangerous tackle served in has favour (albeit tackling without the ball). Rhodes flipped the player over using his neck which is far more likely to cause serious injury.
I think the fact that Deysels could be construed as a high and dangerous tackle served in has favour (albeit tackling without the ball). Rhodes flipped the player over using his neck which is far more likely to cause serious injury.
APoc184
31-05-2011, 12:47 PM
Wow, so what's the difference? The quality of the lawyers?
Sad but true yes.
I spoke to a very influential player agent a while ago. This was after a player got off the hook for a very dangerous tackle. Any other day that player would have received a 4 week ban but because he had a great lawyer pleading his case he got off.
He told me that it is all about how good/bad the lawyers make you look in front of the panel. And sadly the guys representing some SA players are just to soft and don't go that extra mile for the players like New Zealanders do.
Sad but true yes.
I spoke to a very influential player agent a while ago. This was after a player got off the hook for a very dangerous tackle. Any other day that player would have received a 4 week ban but because he had a great lawyer pleading his case he got off.
He told me that it is all about how good/bad the lawyers make you look in front of the panel. And sadly the guys representing some SA players are just to soft and don't go that extra mile for the players like New Zealanders do.
APoc184
31-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Fredric Michalak has re-signed with the Sharks with immediate effect.
hungrybeaver
31-05-2011, 05:52 PM
Fredric Michalak has re-signed with the Sharks with immediate effect.
What
What
APoc184
31-05-2011, 05:59 PM
What
Yes. You read right.
Fredric Michalak has re-signed with the Sharks with immediate effect.
Yes. You read right.
Fredric Michalak has re-signed with the Sharks with immediate effect.
MickeyD
31-05-2011, 06:01 PM
Durban - The Sharks have announced that French supremo Frédéric Michalak - who was part of their team that won the Currie Cup in 2008 - has joined them with immediate effect.
Having played for Toulouse since 1998 (at the age of 16) and enjoyed Top 14 and Heineken Cup action, together with over 50 matches for France, the 28 year old comes with a wealth of experience.
Michalak signed with The Sharks for the Super 14 in 2008. The Sharks, who had previously signed former French internationals Thierry Lacroix and Olivier Roumat saw him as a key player in the Absa Currie Cup campaign.
Michalak made his Super 14 debut against the Stormers and went on to feature in nine games before being a part of The Sharks' successful Currie Cup campaign later that year.
He ended his spell with The Sharks after the victorious Currie Cup Final when he re-signed with his former club Toulouse for the start of the French 2008-09 season.
"It is no surprise that I am here again. I loved my year that I spent in Durban and the cherry on the top was definitely winning the Currie Cup trophy," said Michalak.
"Unlike the first time when I signed for The Sharks, there won't be a problem in terms of any language barrier and being able to slot in with old team-mates is definitely a plus factor for me.
Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has expressed his delught in Michalak rejoining the union: "In the event of injuries, or a depletion of depth due to call-ups to the national squad, a player of his character will provide The Sharks with an unpredictability and freshness.
"He will complement our style of play, is a good influence on the players around him on the field, and we welcome him back to our squad, said van Zyl.
Coach John Plumtree added that, "It is great to have him back and be available to us for selection from this weekend. His arrival could not have been timed better."
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Sharks-sign-Frederic-Michalak-20110531
Having played for Toulouse since 1998 (at the age of 16) and enjoyed Top 14 and Heineken Cup action, together with over 50 matches for France, the 28 year old comes with a wealth of experience.
Michalak signed with The Sharks for the Super 14 in 2008. The Sharks, who had previously signed former French internationals Thierry Lacroix and Olivier Roumat saw him as a key player in the Absa Currie Cup campaign.
Michalak made his Super 14 debut against the Stormers and went on to feature in nine games before being a part of The Sharks' successful Currie Cup campaign later that year.
He ended his spell with The Sharks after the victorious Currie Cup Final when he re-signed with his former club Toulouse for the start of the French 2008-09 season.
"It is no surprise that I am here again. I loved my year that I spent in Durban and the cherry on the top was definitely winning the Currie Cup trophy," said Michalak.
"Unlike the first time when I signed for The Sharks, there won't be a problem in terms of any language barrier and being able to slot in with old team-mates is definitely a plus factor for me.
Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has expressed his delught in Michalak rejoining the union: "In the event of injuries, or a depletion of depth due to call-ups to the national squad, a player of his character will provide The Sharks with an unpredictability and freshness.
"He will complement our style of play, is a good influence on the players around him on the field, and we welcome him back to our squad, said van Zyl.
Coach John Plumtree added that, "It is great to have him back and be available to us for selection from this weekend. His arrival could not have been timed better."
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Sharks-sign-Frederic-Michalak-20110531
hungrybeaver
31-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Crazy. One wonders where he'll play - centre possibly? Or Lambie at 12?
Pixual
01-06-2011, 07:16 AM
Now that's great news!
Play him in his natural position: flyhalf. If they play him at centre it is a waste of his talent. Lambie might function better at outside centre, methinks.
Play him in his natural position: flyhalf. If they play him at centre it is a waste of his talent. Lambie might function better at outside centre, methinks.
Cray
01-06-2011, 07:52 AM
Yup to be honest I don't think we could possibly do worse at center than we are at the moment. Also given a possible national call-up for Lambie we need cover at Flyhalf.
FoXtroT
01-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Marius Joubert will be joining the Sharks from France at the end of July.
McT
02-06-2011, 01:03 PM
Durban - The Sharks have announced that French supremo Frédéric Michalak - who was part of their team that won the Currie Cup in 2008 - has joined them with immediate effect.
Having played for Toulouse since 1998 (at the age of 16) and enjoyed Top 14 and Heineken Cup action, together with over 50 matches for France, the 28 year old comes with a wealth of experience.
Michalak signed with The Sharks for the Super 14 in 2008. The Sharks, who had previously signed former French internationals Thierry Lacroix and Olivier Roumat saw him as a key player in the Absa Currie Cup campaign.
Michalak made his Super 14 debut against the Stormers and went on to feature in nine games before being a part of The Sharks' successful Currie Cup campaign later that year.
He ended his spell with The Sharks after the victorious Currie Cup Final when he re-signed with his former club Toulouse for the start of the French 2008-09 season.
"It is no surprise that I am here again. I loved my year that I spent in Durban and the cherry on the top was definitely winning the Currie Cup trophy," said Michalak.
"Unlike the first time when I signed for The Sharks, there won't be a problem in terms of any language barrier and being able to slot in with old team-mates is definitely a plus factor for me.
Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has expressed his delught in Michalak rejoining the union: "In the event of injuries, or a depletion of depth due to call-ups to the national squad, a player of his character will provide The Sharks with an unpredictability and freshness.
"He will complement our style of play, is a good influence on the players around him on the field, and we welcome him back to our squad, said van Zyl.
Coach John Plumtree added that, "It is great to have him back and be available to us for selection from this weekend. His arrival could not have been timed better."
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Sharks-sign-Frederic-Michalak-20110531
Best news ever! So now can they drop Bosman? :twisted:
Having played for Toulouse since 1998 (at the age of 16) and enjoyed Top 14 and Heineken Cup action, together with over 50 matches for France, the 28 year old comes with a wealth of experience.
Michalak signed with The Sharks for the Super 14 in 2008. The Sharks, who had previously signed former French internationals Thierry Lacroix and Olivier Roumat saw him as a key player in the Absa Currie Cup campaign.
Michalak made his Super 14 debut against the Stormers and went on to feature in nine games before being a part of The Sharks' successful Currie Cup campaign later that year.
He ended his spell with The Sharks after the victorious Currie Cup Final when he re-signed with his former club Toulouse for the start of the French 2008-09 season.
"It is no surprise that I am here again. I loved my year that I spent in Durban and the cherry on the top was definitely winning the Currie Cup trophy," said Michalak.
"Unlike the first time when I signed for The Sharks, there won't be a problem in terms of any language barrier and being able to slot in with old team-mates is definitely a plus factor for me.
Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has expressed his delught in Michalak rejoining the union: "In the event of injuries, or a depletion of depth due to call-ups to the national squad, a player of his character will provide The Sharks with an unpredictability and freshness.
"He will complement our style of play, is a good influence on the players around him on the field, and we welcome him back to our squad, said van Zyl.
Coach John Plumtree added that, "It is great to have him back and be available to us for selection from this weekend. His arrival could not have been timed better."
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Sharks-sign-Frederic-Michalak-20110531
Best news ever! So now can they drop Bosman? :twisted:
Pixual
02-06-2011, 04:20 PM
Funny, he doesn't seem to be as "tired" from the French league as Marius Joubert is.
dal2000
02-06-2011, 04:59 PM
Best news ever! So now can they drop Bosman? :twisted:
No Bosman will stay, even though they paid nothing for him. Honestly, its sad to see him even still in the team.
No Bosman will stay, even though they paid nothing for him. Honestly, its sad to see him even still in the team.
McT
03-06-2011, 07:58 AM
Funny, he doesn't seem to be as "tired" from the French league as Marius Joubert is.
Is this why Saffers are sometime known as whiners?
Is this why Saffers are sometime known as whiners?
Pixual
05-06-2011, 06:46 AM
Marius Jonker had a shocker, didn't he? But then it's never amazing how he always seems to find his worst when the Sharks are playing and he's reffing. Chop.
Well played to the boys, despite every attempt by the third force to see them lose. We still have big issues in midfield defence though.
Well played to the boys, despite every attempt by the third force to see them lose. We still have big issues in midfield defence though.
Korn1
05-06-2011, 12:13 PM
Joh I thought we would lose that game,my friends were drilling me that night.
Cray
06-06-2011, 07:12 AM
Thought Keegan's yellow card was very dubious.. Considering how many mistakes we made in the first half very pleased we got away with the win.
Pixual
06-06-2011, 08:09 AM
Notice how they didn't show it again on any replay?
Marius Jonker really shouldn't be allowed to ref any game where the Sharks are playing. His bias is so blatant it is an embarrassment to the nation.
Marius Jonker really shouldn't be allowed to ref any game where the Sharks are playing. His bias is so blatant it is an embarrassment to the nation.
APoc184
06-06-2011, 08:20 AM
@Pixual
I just want to clarify.
Jonker was biased towards the Cheetahs and wanted the Sharks to lose?
I just want to clarify.
Jonker was biased towards the Cheetahs and wanted the Sharks to lose?
Cray
06-06-2011, 08:29 AM
To be honest I thought he was crap both ways. The second yellow card was a shocker but I can also remember one line out where the Sharks committed two infringements but instead of being penalized the line out was reset. Would be interested to see the penalty count..
hungrybeaver
06-06-2011, 08:40 AM
See what happens when we swing the ball :) Our tackling has improved. Jacobs, once again, added fire to the backline when he came on. The forwards had a good game, although Kanko didn't play as well as we know he can. The team needs to ask themselves why the increased performance in the 2nd half can't be done in the 1st. I really thought the Cheetahs would screw us again.
With 13 men on the field the team did well to not throw it away.
Thought Keegan's yellow card was very dubious.
I thought he deserved it. You cannot reach around the ruck with your leg and kick the ball out when the other team is about to handle it. Anyone see Smits face when he got away with being penalised? hehehe his hand was on the ground during a scrum and the ref didn't see it, and we got a penalty for something the Cheetahs did in that scrum. He looked like a child that did something naughty and didn't get seen :p
With 13 men on the field the team did well to not throw it away.
Thought Keegan's yellow card was very dubious.
I thought he deserved it. You cannot reach around the ruck with your leg and kick the ball out when the other team is about to handle it. Anyone see Smits face when he got away with being penalised? hehehe his hand was on the ground during a scrum and the ref didn't see it, and we got a penalty for something the Cheetahs did in that scrum. He looked like a child that did something naughty and didn't get seen :p
Cray
06-06-2011, 09:13 AM
I thought he deserved it. You cannot reach around the ruck with your leg and kick the ball out when the other team is about to handle it. Anyone see Smits face when he got away with being penalised? hehehe his hand was on the ground during a scrum and the ref didn't see it, and we got a penalty for something the Cheetahs did in that scrum. He looked like a child that did something naughty and didn't get seen :p
Was definitely a penalty but no different to many other spoiling infringements that get ignored, if refs are going to be that harsh on killing opponents ball then be consistent. I also think that if a ref is going to reduce a team to 13 men then it better for something a lot worse than simply spoiling possession 40 metres out from the tryline.
Was definitely a penalty but no different to many other spoiling infringements that get ignored, if refs are going to be that harsh on killing opponents ball then be consistent. I also think that if a ref is going to reduce a team to 13 men then it better for something a lot worse than simply spoiling possession 40 metres out from the tryline.
Cray
06-06-2011, 09:16 AM
See what happens when we swing the ball :) Our tackling has improved. Jacobs, once again, added fire to the backline when he came on.
The try that Jacobs created was class, I especially like the way he directed his back line after he took the gap - he knew a try was on and he made sure of it :-)
The try that Jacobs created was class, I especially like the way he directed his back line after he took the gap - he knew a try was on and he made sure of it :-)
hungrybeaver
06-06-2011, 10:15 AM
Was definitely a penalty but no different to many other spoiling infringements that get ignored, if refs are going to be that harsh on killing opponents ball then be consistent. I also think that if a ref is going to reduce a team to 13 men then it better for something a lot worse than simply spoiling possession 40 metres out from the tryline.
True. I can't remember if there were infringements before that from our guys. Maybe the ref had had enough and Daniels was the unlucky guy to get the card.
The try that Jacobs created was class, I especially like the way he directed his back line after he took the gap - he knew a try was on and he made sure of it :-)
That was enjoyable to watch! He had 3 teamies to choose from!
<critical supporter>
The critical supporter in me feels as though he shouldn't have had to tell them to support him... team-mates should be right there with him. I know it was a breakaway but its infuriating seeing other teams popping the ball to oncoming support and we aren't able to do it..
</critical supporter>
Lions next week! Not sure how I see this game going.
True. I can't remember if there were infringements before that from our guys. Maybe the ref had had enough and Daniels was the unlucky guy to get the card.
The try that Jacobs created was class, I especially like the way he directed his back line after he took the gap - he knew a try was on and he made sure of it :-)
That was enjoyable to watch! He had 3 teamies to choose from!
<critical supporter>
The critical supporter in me feels as though he shouldn't have had to tell them to support him... team-mates should be right there with him. I know it was a breakaway but its infuriating seeing other teams popping the ball to oncoming support and we aren't able to do it..
</critical supporter>
Lions next week! Not sure how I see this game going.
Cray
06-06-2011, 12:21 PM
@ Critical supporter - Agreed, although the way certain parts of our back line have been playing this season it's no wonder he felt a little coaching was needed :-)
hungrybeaver
06-06-2011, 12:39 PM
:D
Pixual
06-06-2011, 04:37 PM
@Pixual
I just want to clarify.
Jonker was biased towards the Cheetahs and wanted the Sharks to lose?
That is generally what I was implying. The second yellow was typical of the way Jonker refs the Sharks. He's got a history of very dodgy decisions against them. That could have cost us the game and if it had I reckon he should have been suspended without pay for the balance of the tournament.
I just want to clarify.
Jonker was biased towards the Cheetahs and wanted the Sharks to lose?
That is generally what I was implying. The second yellow was typical of the way Jonker refs the Sharks. He's got a history of very dodgy decisions against them. That could have cost us the game and if it had I reckon he should have been suspended without pay for the balance of the tournament.
hungrybeaver
12-06-2011, 09:02 PM
What a finish! Fantastic comeback! I don't know what we were doing for the first 50 minutes because it looked like we were well on our way to a good hiding. We hardly had the ball and each time we got some momentum going we'd lose it. The substitutions instantly gave us a much needed boost and we started to play some really good and exciting rugby.
Why do we always make it so difficult for ourselves :confused:
Why do we always make it so difficult for ourselves :confused:
Cray
13-06-2011, 12:46 PM
Amazing game, I think I might just start setting my alarm for the second half in future. Now all we have to do is beat the bulls at Loftus, eish..
Pixual
13-06-2011, 02:37 PM
Really not good enough from a team that has won the Currie Cup twice in the last three seasons. It's like they don't have a game plan at all. The Bulls will destroy them in 30 minutes if they play like that again.
McT
14-06-2011, 08:00 AM
Amazing game, I think I might just start setting my alarm for the second half in future. Now all we have to do is beat the bulls at Loftus, eish..
Tough job, but it is doable! Loftus is sold out and it will be a cup final atmosphere.
Tough job, but it is doable! Loftus is sold out and it will be a cup final atmosphere.
Cray
14-06-2011, 08:35 AM
Tough job, but it is doable! Loftus is sold out and it will be a cup final atmosphere.
Should be an awesome game, Sharks have raised their game at Lotfus before. I think if they can keep the Bulls from getting easy points in the first 30 they will be in with a decent shout.
Should be an awesome game, Sharks have raised their game at Lotfus before. I think if they can keep the Bulls from getting easy points in the first 30 they will be in with a decent shout.
McT
18-06-2011, 05:52 PM
Proving to be a humdinger... and anyone can take this.
MickeyD
18-06-2011, 06:56 PM
/wonders if there are still doubts about Michalak?
Him and Lambie at 15 were brilliant!!!!
Him and Lambie at 15 were brilliant!!!!
MickeyD
18-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Amazing game, I think I might just start setting my alarm for the second half in future. Now all we have to do is beat the bulls at Loftus, eish..
Mission Accomplished
Mission Accomplished
lilggg
18-06-2011, 07:02 PM
:D
BobsLawnService
18-06-2011, 07:58 PM
I'm glad we nailed the Bulls but we're still not looking like Super Rugby winners this year. We're looking a bit scrappy.
MickeyD
18-06-2011, 07:59 PM
I'm glad we nailed the Bulls but we're still not looking like Super Rugby winners this year. We're looking a bit scrappy.
Beating the Bulls at Loftus is bigger than S15!!!
Beating the Bulls at Loftus is bigger than S15!!!
Pixual
18-06-2011, 08:55 PM
Beating the Bulls at Loftus is bigger than S15!!!
Agreed! The rest doesn't matter. :D
Lambie must stay away from the 10 jersey. He is so much better at FB.
Agreed! The rest doesn't matter. :D
Lambie must stay away from the 10 jersey. He is so much better at FB.
ponder
18-06-2011, 10:44 PM
We are black we are white we are we are fscking dynamite!
Sharkies, this is the best game you guys played all season!
Lwazi Mvovo, Ryan Kankowski etc and my Froggie Frédéric Michalak well done guys!
Sharkies, this is the best game you guys played all season!
Lwazi Mvovo, Ryan Kankowski etc and my Froggie Frédéric Michalak well done guys!
dabbler
18-06-2011, 11:06 PM
Great game guys. Well played.
hungrybeaver
20-06-2011, 07:52 AM
What a game it was! Edge of the seat stuff! Everybody played well and Lambie at 15 works way better than expected! Even our centres had a good game ;)
:D
:D
MongooseMan
20-06-2011, 07:56 AM
What a game it was! Edge of the seat stuff! Everybody played well and Lambie at 15 works way better than expected! Even our centres had a good game ;)
:D
Edge of your seat? You mean you managed to stay seated during the final 5 minutes? ;0)
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:D
Edge of your seat? You mean you managed to stay seated during the final 5 minutes? ;0)
Sent from the MyBroadband iPhone App
Cray
20-06-2011, 08:01 AM
Wow, what a game - winning a tight game like that against a resurgent Bulls team made up for all the first half dross over the last five games. JPP is the form SA wing at the moment with Mvovo not far behind. Would really like to see Lambie at 15 for the Boks, he looked so good coming into the line for Mvovo's try.
Creature
21-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Go Sharkies..... Love all the boys's reactions at work on Monday morning after they got knocked out. Hahhahahahaha
McT
21-06-2011, 01:32 PM
What a game it was! Edge of the seat stuff! Everybody played well and Lambie at 15 works way better than expected! Even our centres had a good game ;)
:D
That was damn close to the right combinations right throughout the team sheet :)
And I say again, we have a real chance against the Crusaders. Going to be tough, but these guys can get the job done.
:D
That was damn close to the right combinations right throughout the team sheet :)
And I say again, we have a real chance against the Crusaders. Going to be tough, but these guys can get the job done.
mmmig
21-06-2011, 01:37 PM
I exspect Sharks to make it all the way to the finals..... and then lose :(
phoneJunky
21-06-2011, 01:44 PM
I exspect Sharks to make it all the way to the finals..... and then lose :(
Hopefully against the Stormers, then atleast our country has the trophy
Hopefully against the Stormers, then atleast our country has the trophy
hungrybeaver
21-06-2011, 01:51 PM
If we play with the same intensity against the 'Saders as we did against the Bulls, we'll witness one of the greatest rugby games in recent years. It has all the makings of a great game and I'm sure we'll have something to prove after the London match earlier this season. I hope the jet lag is over by Saturday!
And whats this about Nonu? I would definitely like to see him in the black & white next year dominating the midfield.
And whats this about Nonu? I would definitely like to see him in the black & white next year dominating the midfield.
Know_hope
21-06-2011, 02:06 PM
And whats this about Nonu? I would definitely like to see him in the black & white next year dominating the midfield.
IMHO i feel this is the biggest weakness in the team! The two centers!
IMHO i feel this is the biggest weakness in the team! The two centers!
Pixual
22-06-2011, 07:02 AM
And whats this about Nonu? I would definitely like to see him in the black & white next year dominating the midfield.
Hell no. They can keep their cast-offs. We don't need him.
Hell no. They can keep their cast-offs. We don't need him.
MickeyD
22-06-2011, 07:16 AM
I would sign Nonu immediately. Stefan is in his last season and all he needs is one injury in the next few weeks and that's the end of his playing career and the beginnng of his SS commentary career. I don't have too much of a problem with Meyer Bosman - I think that a lot of his work goes unnoticed to the casual eye.
McT
22-06-2011, 01:14 PM
Agree with McD. Nonu would be a superb sign ... cast-off or not. Superwrap often puts him in their top XV.
McT
22-06-2011, 01:15 PM
Any more news on their travels to NZ? I heard the ash cloud might have influence on their flight from Sydney to Wellington. :(
hungrybeaver
23-06-2011, 10:44 AM
Word is they're in Wellington and that their original flight was rescheduled. A couple of the guys have tweeted about NZ.
Hargreaves: http://twitter.com/#!/Al_Hargreaves
Hey guys, a big howzit from a chilly New Zealand! Heres the column, hope you enjoy http://bit.ly/kMKsPH
Michalak: http://twitter.com/#!/michalakfred
(Google translate)
We just arrived in Wellington, it is 1:28 in the morning we will try to sleep for an hour stalling by
They should have had a training session in cold NZ today!
Hargreaves: http://twitter.com/#!/Al_Hargreaves
Hey guys, a big howzit from a chilly New Zealand! Heres the column, hope you enjoy http://bit.ly/kMKsPH
Michalak: http://twitter.com/#!/michalakfred
(Google translate)
We just arrived in Wellington, it is 1:28 in the morning we will try to sleep for an hour stalling by
They should have had a training session in cold NZ today!
Pixual
23-06-2011, 11:18 AM
Kankowski for inside centre! Got the skills, got the speed, got the brains.
Nonu is just a chop who can't tackle properly. Rugby union should ignore him completely.
You don't want to know what I think about Bosman...
Nonu is just a chop who can't tackle properly. Rugby union should ignore him completely.
You don't want to know what I think about Bosman...
APoc184
23-06-2011, 02:25 PM
http://www.rugby15.co.za/2011/06/sharks-opt-for-alberts-over-kankowski/
So only once change to the starting line up and two on the bench. Opting for physicality and experience.
Willem Alberts swaps places with Kankowski. Van Staden and Botes on bench in place of Coetzee and Herbst.
The Sharks team:
15. Pat Lambie
14. JP Pietersen
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Charl McLeod
8. Willem Alberts
7. Jean Deysel
6. Keegan Daniel
5. Alistair Hargreaves
4. Gerhard Mostert
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Tendai Mtawarira
Replacements: 16. John Smit; 17. Eugene van Staden; 18. Ross Skeate; 19. Ryan Kankowski; 20. Jacques Botes; 21. Adrian Jacobs; 22. Louis Ludik
So only once change to the starting line up and two on the bench. Opting for physicality and experience.
Willem Alberts swaps places with Kankowski. Van Staden and Botes on bench in place of Coetzee and Herbst.
The Sharks team:
15. Pat Lambie
14. JP Pietersen
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Charl McLeod
8. Willem Alberts
7. Jean Deysel
6. Keegan Daniel
5. Alistair Hargreaves
4. Gerhard Mostert
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Tendai Mtawarira
Replacements: 16. John Smit; 17. Eugene van Staden; 18. Ross Skeate; 19. Ryan Kankowski; 20. Jacques Botes; 21. Adrian Jacobs; 22. Louis Ludik
phoneJunky
23-06-2011, 02:45 PM
Good luck to the Sharks this weekend, hope you can turn them over.
hungrybeaver
23-06-2011, 02:51 PM
Nice to see the team pretty much unchanged!
APoc184
23-06-2011, 02:54 PM
Interesting for me is when it comes to these important matches (qualifier & must win against Bulls), that our Bok captain is on the bench and Sharks try to bring him on as late as possible.
hungrybeaver
24-06-2011, 09:48 AM
Because there are better performing players than Smit. I think that when he comes on late he does add to the team and because he is a leader, late in the game he can get the guys to push for the win or to keep level heads and not throw it away.
hungrybeaver
24-06-2011, 01:38 PM
Interesting statistical article from Sharks World.
Sharks quarter final numbers to ponder
I waited writing this piece until later in the week as I had sensed the weather, if not the volcanic ash, was going to have a say in the game.
The outlook for the game is very wet. I write from Wellington where Nelson is 20 minutes by very light plane. It usually has much better weather, but this week the rain has come and continues to fall as I write this and you read it.
Wet weather means handling errors and a kicking game for territory. Over the last couple of weeks the Sharks have tidied up handling errors. In the first 12 games the Sharks made double digital handling errors in 10 of the games. In the last 4 games they have made single digital handling errors. Put another way out of the 177 handling errors in SuperRugby, only 30 were in the last 4 games (last quarter of the season). However they are still the number one team for handling errors at an average of 11.1 per game. Higher than the Crusaders who have made 39 in their last four games. Last time they played, the Sharks made 17 handling errors to the Crusaders 11.
A wet game will mean the Crusaders will kick (from the hand) to gain territory. Certainly in the last two games that were wet (Blues and Hurricanes respectively) the Crusaders kicked 28 and 27 times each, higher than the 22.3 average at that time. The Crusaders make an average of 2 errors per game when kicking from the hand. The Sharks are averaging 1 per game in this regard.
Scrums time will be interesting as the Sharks and Bulls scrum last week ended up being reset 5 times, all on the Sharks feed. This was the usual number of resets for Kaplan who was the ref. The Sharks conceded 4 scrum penalties well above their 1.2 average. The Crusaders scrum is solid and I expect the scrum to be a focal point based on the Bulls game, which I’m sure the Crusaders have analysed.
The Crusaders concede about 1.5 penalties more on average than the Sharks, and it is likely to be at the ruck/maul. The Crusaders concede an average of 6.5 ruck/maul penalties per game making them the 3rd highest in the competition. The Sharks concede 5.2 per game and are 10th highest.
Penalties and scrum are reliant on the referee controlling this aspect. In this game it is Bryce Lawrence who also has got the final as well. Lawrence is 13th out of the 17th ref (1 is highest/most) to reset scrums, and awarded ruck penalties. He is 11th highest overall for penalties so he is not likely to want to get involved unless required, or at least that is what the stats are saying.
Coding each and every game it is clear the Crusaders will go backwards from the advantage line and wait for an opening. For this to happen players need to come out of the line, or miss tackles. Last week by my count the Sharks missed 29 tackles against the Bulls. This area has not been improving over the last few games. In fact it has been getting worse. Rain is a great leveller, and typically a wet game is played around the ruck (i.e. pick and go’s), this reduces the number of missed tackles, in my experience and may favour the Sharks.
On rucks the Crusaders are one of the best teams at holding the ball in rucks despite counter rucking. The 2.5 on average they lose taking the ball into a ruck is the lowest in the competition. The Sharks conceded an average 3.1 and are 10th highest.
Stats that favour the Sharks are clearly place kicking. Lambie, has a higher percentage that Carter. Further the Sharks score more tries against Australian and New Zealand teams than South African Super15 teams. Sharks average 1.9 tries against South African teams and 3.3 tries when playing New Zealand and Australian teams.
Will try and post stats during the game if I get time, but will be giving preference to my tweets, so follow me along. It is also nice to note that most of South Africa is behind the Sharks (Crusaders fans are everywhere..).
http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2011/06/24/sharks-quarter-final-numbers-to-ponder/
I'm a bit worried now that I've heard it will more than likely be a wet game.
Sharks quarter final numbers to ponder
I waited writing this piece until later in the week as I had sensed the weather, if not the volcanic ash, was going to have a say in the game.
The outlook for the game is very wet. I write from Wellington where Nelson is 20 minutes by very light plane. It usually has much better weather, but this week the rain has come and continues to fall as I write this and you read it.
Wet weather means handling errors and a kicking game for territory. Over the last couple of weeks the Sharks have tidied up handling errors. In the first 12 games the Sharks made double digital handling errors in 10 of the games. In the last 4 games they have made single digital handling errors. Put another way out of the 177 handling errors in SuperRugby, only 30 were in the last 4 games (last quarter of the season). However they are still the number one team for handling errors at an average of 11.1 per game. Higher than the Crusaders who have made 39 in their last four games. Last time they played, the Sharks made 17 handling errors to the Crusaders 11.
A wet game will mean the Crusaders will kick (from the hand) to gain territory. Certainly in the last two games that were wet (Blues and Hurricanes respectively) the Crusaders kicked 28 and 27 times each, higher than the 22.3 average at that time. The Crusaders make an average of 2 errors per game when kicking from the hand. The Sharks are averaging 1 per game in this regard.
Scrums time will be interesting as the Sharks and Bulls scrum last week ended up being reset 5 times, all on the Sharks feed. This was the usual number of resets for Kaplan who was the ref. The Sharks conceded 4 scrum penalties well above their 1.2 average. The Crusaders scrum is solid and I expect the scrum to be a focal point based on the Bulls game, which I’m sure the Crusaders have analysed.
The Crusaders concede about 1.5 penalties more on average than the Sharks, and it is likely to be at the ruck/maul. The Crusaders concede an average of 6.5 ruck/maul penalties per game making them the 3rd highest in the competition. The Sharks concede 5.2 per game and are 10th highest.
Penalties and scrum are reliant on the referee controlling this aspect. In this game it is Bryce Lawrence who also has got the final as well. Lawrence is 13th out of the 17th ref (1 is highest/most) to reset scrums, and awarded ruck penalties. He is 11th highest overall for penalties so he is not likely to want to get involved unless required, or at least that is what the stats are saying.
Coding each and every game it is clear the Crusaders will go backwards from the advantage line and wait for an opening. For this to happen players need to come out of the line, or miss tackles. Last week by my count the Sharks missed 29 tackles against the Bulls. This area has not been improving over the last few games. In fact it has been getting worse. Rain is a great leveller, and typically a wet game is played around the ruck (i.e. pick and go’s), this reduces the number of missed tackles, in my experience and may favour the Sharks.
On rucks the Crusaders are one of the best teams at holding the ball in rucks despite counter rucking. The 2.5 on average they lose taking the ball into a ruck is the lowest in the competition. The Sharks conceded an average 3.1 and are 10th highest.
Stats that favour the Sharks are clearly place kicking. Lambie, has a higher percentage that Carter. Further the Sharks score more tries against Australian and New Zealand teams than South African Super15 teams. Sharks average 1.9 tries against South African teams and 3.3 tries when playing New Zealand and Australian teams.
Will try and post stats during the game if I get time, but will be giving preference to my tweets, so follow me along. It is also nice to note that most of South Africa is behind the Sharks (Crusaders fans are everywhere..).
http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2011/06/24/sharks-quarter-final-numbers-to-ponder/
I'm a bit worried now that I've heard it will more than likely be a wet game.
DJ...
25-06-2011, 02:27 AM
I'm happy to hear it will be a wet game - our squad is extremely physical and will enjoy a tight game. The Crusaders are dangerous in loose play, so maintaining possession and keeping them in their territory will be the key to beating them. Frustrate them into making mistakes...
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 07:58 AM
One thing is for sure.... it's going to be TOUGH!
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 09:44 AM
We had better get our act together... cannot afford too many elementary errors.
The_Pumpkin_King
25-06-2011, 10:00 AM
This ref is rubbish
Chris
25-06-2011, 10:03 AM
Lol at the "dangerous play". And all credit to the NZ commentators for saying it was complete rubbish.
lilggg
25-06-2011, 10:04 AM
Yip,ridiculous ;/
sand_man
25-06-2011, 10:04 AM
Ref is a f ucking disgrace.
lilggg
25-06-2011, 10:12 AM
Lol soccer tactics.
BobsLawnService
25-06-2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah, you can't win when the ref is blowing like this.
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 10:13 AM
Absolutely fscking pathetic.
When I posted the refs assigned to these games and I saw that Bryce fsckface Lawrence was handling our game I was already concerned. And so far it is justified. This fscker has fscking blinkers on.
When I posted the refs assigned to these games and I saw that Bryce fsckface Lawrence was handling our game I was already concerned. And so far it is justified. This fscker has fscking blinkers on.
lilggg
25-06-2011, 10:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Lawrence any1 wana edit that?
bryce lawrence the **** born half blind
bryce lawrence the **** born half blind
Mephisto_Helix
25-06-2011, 10:24 AM
Words escape me on some of the calls this plonker is making. How does this shyte keep being allowed year in and year bloody out :mad:
BobsLawnService
25-06-2011, 10:28 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Lawrence any1 wana edit that?
bryce lawrence the **** born half blind
Catch it while it's hot. : "Lawrence is getting a well deserved reputation as a poor referee due to his extreme bias and poor refereeing on the field."
bryce lawrence the **** born half blind
Catch it while it's hot. : "Lawrence is getting a well deserved reputation as a poor referee due to his extreme bias and poor refereeing on the field."
BobsLawnService
25-06-2011, 10:36 AM
That's the game.
lilggg
25-06-2011, 10:37 AM
crap ;/
dal2000
25-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Thats the game i'm afraid. If we atleast had a different un*****ed up referee it would've helped.
droplet
25-06-2011, 10:39 AM
reasons why lambie should not be in the bok side
lilggg
25-06-2011, 10:59 AM
Wow,after last week.
VJB 449
25-06-2011, 11:13 AM
Sigh. Hopefully the Stormers will win next week.
BobsLawnService
25-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Congrats to the Crusaders, they deserved to win. Also in a way congrats to Bryce who hopefully has proven to the IRB that neutral refs are a non-negotiable at this level.
dal2000
25-06-2011, 11:19 AM
I would say congrats to the Saders, but unfortunately it wasn't fair game with that kind of reffing. They were better though, and we were too tired for this match. It showed heavily. However I do hope the Stormers smash them and the little soft pony faker SBW.
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 11:20 AM
Well done, my boys, better luck next season!!
Also well played to 'Saders - they know how to play big games.
Now it's..... GO STORMERS!!!!
Also well played to 'Saders - they know how to play big games.
Now it's..... GO STORMERS!!!!
The Source
25-06-2011, 11:53 AM
Eish the sharks had a shocker of a second half there and the ref had a shocker of a match. However, I don't think he was biased because neutral refs also have poor games (refer to 2010 trinations game between boks and ABs).
alternate
25-06-2011, 12:40 PM
Ive already vented my frustration else where. Disgusting, what is this soccer?
I'll be behind the Stormers now. Thanks for the season Sharks! Currie Cup time soon.
I'll be behind the Stormers now. Thanks for the season Sharks! Currie Cup time soon.
DJ...
25-06-2011, 01:21 PM
I hereby award my man of the match nomination to Bryce Lawrence. It's tough to win a game when you're playing against 16 and on their home ground. By far some of the most pathetic refereeing I have ever seen (it surpases Freek Burger's shocker in the Currie Cup final - Lions vs Sharks more than a decade ago which up until now was the worst I had witnessed.)
I often defend refs to an extent by stating that sometimes their "offish" days can be misinterpreted as bias, however there is very little room for interpretation in this case - he was well and truly biased against The Sharks from the get-go.
No denying The Crusaders played a better game overall on the night, however the refereeing decisions contributed towards that being the perception...
I often defend refs to an extent by stating that sometimes their "offish" days can be misinterpreted as bias, however there is very little room for interpretation in this case - he was well and truly biased against The Sharks from the get-go.
No denying The Crusaders played a better game overall on the night, however the refereeing decisions contributed towards that being the perception...
Alan
25-06-2011, 01:26 PM
I hereby award my man of the match nomination to Bryce Lawrence. It's tough to win a game when you're playing against 16 and on their home ground. By far some of the most pathetic refereeing I have ever seen (it surpases Freek Burger's shocker in the Currie Cup final - Lions vs Sharks more than a decade ago which up until now was the worst I had witnessed.)
Worse than Steve Walsh's performance in the 2007 Super 14 final?
Worse than Steve Walsh's performance in the 2007 Super 14 final?
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 01:29 PM
Worse than Steve Walsh's performance in the 2007 Super 14 final?
Maybe, yes.
How the fsck can you give a penalty for DANGEROUS PLAY at a scrum before the scrum has even engaged????
Maybe, yes.
How the fsck can you give a penalty for DANGEROUS PLAY at a scrum before the scrum has even engaged????
DJ...
25-06-2011, 01:42 PM
I'm gonna start a Facebook petition for support to remove Bryce Lawrence's eyeballs. In my opinion, if you're not going to use them, then you shouldn't be afforded the luxury of having them. Although Sanzar would probably still employ him as a ref - heck he couldn't get any worse...
DJ...
25-06-2011, 01:50 PM
Worse than Steve Walsh's performance in the 2007 Super 14 final?
Steve Walsh missed a few important calls - that can be attributed to him being a pisscat (remember he wasn't allowed to ref the opening rounds that year due to him being a bit of a drunkard.) Bryce Lawrence on the other hand was blatantly favouring one side with 90% of the calls made on the day - even Stefan Terblanche had a frustrated word with him at one point. The majority of his penalty calls were not just wrong, but smacked of blatant bias.
I keep repeating this, but when a ref plays more of a role in a game than the 30 men on the pitch, then there's something very wrong. Yet Sanzar keep defending them and affording them even more control over elementary situations. Pivotal tries in the game came from shocking calls from Bryce Lawrence, and what appeared to be "turning a blind eye" as well. Such as the early pushing in the scrum by The Crusaders every time they were in our 22.
My worst player of the match is a tie between Bryce Lawrence and Charl McCloud...
Steve Walsh missed a few important calls - that can be attributed to him being a pisscat (remember he wasn't allowed to ref the opening rounds that year due to him being a bit of a drunkard.) Bryce Lawrence on the other hand was blatantly favouring one side with 90% of the calls made on the day - even Stefan Terblanche had a frustrated word with him at one point. The majority of his penalty calls were not just wrong, but smacked of blatant bias.
I keep repeating this, but when a ref plays more of a role in a game than the 30 men on the pitch, then there's something very wrong. Yet Sanzar keep defending them and affording them even more control over elementary situations. Pivotal tries in the game came from shocking calls from Bryce Lawrence, and what appeared to be "turning a blind eye" as well. Such as the early pushing in the scrum by The Crusaders every time they were in our 22.
My worst player of the match is a tie between Bryce Lawrence and Charl McCloud...
DJ...
25-06-2011, 01:59 PM
I see that the post-game review on Supersport Active is equally harsh on Bryce Lawrence's (so called) performance.
What they didn't address though were the countless times that The Crusaders were offsides at the ruck. Their early pushing at the scrums after they realised The Sharks had their number - this resulted in one absurd penalty to the Crusaders for Jannie apparently placing a hand on the ground - what was he supposed to do? Calling a Sharks player for entering from the side of the ruck after The Sharks had already rucked well over the ball. His penalty advantages to The Sharks that didn't even last over the game line. The Crusaders going off their feet at the breakdown to secure the ball after The Sharks nailed them at the rucks on countless occasions. The absurd calling of the scrums in general - I mean at one point you hear him stating that The Crusaders player had a hand on the ground, yet awarded the reset scrum to them - WTF? And one absurdity that went against both teams was that he didn't call advantage for penalty infringements.
Effectively all Bryce Lawrence was able to correctly call on the day were knock ons...
What they didn't address though were the countless times that The Crusaders were offsides at the ruck. Their early pushing at the scrums after they realised The Sharks had their number - this resulted in one absurd penalty to the Crusaders for Jannie apparently placing a hand on the ground - what was he supposed to do? Calling a Sharks player for entering from the side of the ruck after The Sharks had already rucked well over the ball. His penalty advantages to The Sharks that didn't even last over the game line. The Crusaders going off their feet at the breakdown to secure the ball after The Sharks nailed them at the rucks on countless occasions. The absurd calling of the scrums in general - I mean at one point you hear him stating that The Crusaders player had a hand on the ground, yet awarded the reset scrum to them - WTF? And one absurdity that went against both teams was that he didn't call advantage for penalty infringements.
Effectively all Bryce Lawrence was able to correctly call on the day were knock ons...
MickeyD
25-06-2011, 02:04 PM
And he has already been appointed to ref the final ....
DJ...
25-06-2011, 02:14 PM
And he has already been appointed to ref the final ....
As Darren Scott said at half time, he must have been selected by a lucky draw...
As Darren Scott said at half time, he must have been selected by a lucky draw...
Pixual
26-06-2011, 08:05 AM
Why is it that the entire world knows the Sharks midfield weaknesses except the Sharks coaching team? I hazard a guess that in every game we have lost this year it's been because of poor midfield defending, yet Reece-Edwards and that Kiwi bloke continue to put dodgy players in those positions.
Reece-Edwards should not be a part of the coaching set-up. He already proved how useless he is as a coach before Strauli took over years ago. And what is Strauli still doing there anyway? The man should be fixing cocktails and milkshakes for tourists at a nudist resort far, far away from SA rugby.
Reece-Edwards should not be a part of the coaching set-up. He already proved how useless he is as a coach before Strauli took over years ago. And what is Strauli still doing there anyway? The man should be fixing cocktails and milkshakes for tourists at a nudist resort far, far away from SA rugby.
Pixual
26-06-2011, 08:16 AM
There were some crappy calls made by the referee in the game, but in my opinion there were worse calls made by the Sharks players. I don't think they went into that game with much of a plan to win it at all.
McCloud is a rubbish scrummie. We really needed to hold onto Kockett, but it looks like the "brains trust" screwed up on that one. "Maaitjie syndrome" again.
McCloud is a rubbish scrummie. We really needed to hold onto Kockett, but it looks like the "brains trust" screwed up on that one. "Maaitjie syndrome" again.
MickeyD
26-06-2011, 08:23 AM
There were some crappy calls made by the referee in the game, but in my opinion there were worse calls made by the Sharks players. I don't think they went into that game with much of a plan to win it at all.
McCloud is a rubbish scrummie. We really needed to hold onto Kockett, but it looks like the "brains trust" screwed up on that one. "Maaitjie syndrome" again.
Yep - far too many unforced handling errors and missed first-time tackles.
McCloud is a rubbish scrummie. We really needed to hold onto Kockett, but it looks like the "brains trust" screwed up on that one. "Maaitjie syndrome" again.
Yep - far too many unforced handling errors and missed first-time tackles.
Stevie G
26-06-2011, 10:59 AM
I expected more from the Sharks in the game. apart from the some poor reffing decisions, the sharks were not hungry enough to win it i'm afraid. i was surprised how the bok front row were poor against the crusaders. lambie is not test level, inexperieced and bead tactical kicking.
Alan
26-06-2011, 05:56 PM
One of life's ironies that New Zealand produces most of the best players but the worst refs
Cray
27-06-2011, 06:43 AM
Eish some of those calls where diabolical. Sharks were always going to be up against it away from home but how Lawrence gets rated as the best referee in Super 15 is beyond me. Starting to dislike McCloud, was good in the Currie cup last year and shows a few good touches but not nearly consistent enough. I think also the one difference from the Bulls games last week is that the Crusaders didn't kick away possession every 5 minutes like Steyn did.
Wish list for CC and next year - centres, for the love of god, decent centres!
Wish list for CC and next year - centres, for the love of god, decent centres!
DJ...
27-06-2011, 08:13 AM
Ironically, isn't Ruan Pienaar still training with The Sharks?
zeb
27-06-2011, 08:48 AM
The referee was poor, but we didn't have too much sympathy from the Sharks' side when Kaplan took the same stance of penalising the Bulls indiscriminitely a week prior. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes they go for you and sometimes they go against you.
ToxicBunny
27-06-2011, 01:30 PM
The referee was poor, but we didn't have too much sympathy from the Sharks' side when Kaplan took the same stance of penalising the Bulls ndiscriminitely a week prior. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes they go for you and sometimes they go against you.
That isn't really an issue here... there will always be 50/50 calls, and sometimes they'll go your way.. sometimes not..
What is an issue here is Bryce's absolutely incorrect and horribly diabolically wrong calls, where even the NZ commentators were going :wtf: aloud during the game.
That isn't really an issue here... there will always be 50/50 calls, and sometimes they'll go your way.. sometimes not..
What is an issue here is Bryce's absolutely incorrect and horribly diabolically wrong calls, where even the NZ commentators were going :wtf: aloud during the game.
DJ...
27-06-2011, 01:50 PM
The fact that every single 50/50 call went the way of The Crusaders shows a blatant bias. Whether it's patriotic or not is the question. I personally believe that it's a combination of patriotic bias and complete ineptitude...
Gothan
27-06-2011, 02:54 PM
That isn't really an issue here... there will always be 50/50 calls, and sometimes they'll go your way.. sometimes not..
What is an issue here is Bryce's absolutely incorrect and horribly diabolically wrong calls, where even the NZ commentators were going :wtf: aloud during the game.
Sorry mate (not making excuses here, the bulls would have lost no matter what), but when the bulls played the sharks at loftus, even the commentators questioned the way kaplan would hammer in on Bakkies. It got so bad that Ludeke had to remove Bakkies just so that the game could continue. And your front row is a joke, seriously nothing personal but the Sharks front row has been missing something this year.
But you got further than my bulls this year so kudos to you, its this supporting the stormers as the final SA team that makes me feel all dirty
What is an issue here is Bryce's absolutely incorrect and horribly diabolically wrong calls, where even the NZ commentators were going :wtf: aloud during the game.
Sorry mate (not making excuses here, the bulls would have lost no matter what), but when the bulls played the sharks at loftus, even the commentators questioned the way kaplan would hammer in on Bakkies. It got so bad that Ludeke had to remove Bakkies just so that the game could continue. And your front row is a joke, seriously nothing personal but the Sharks front row has been missing something this year.
But you got further than my bulls this year so kudos to you, its this supporting the stormers as the final SA team that makes me feel all dirty
ToxicBunny
27-06-2011, 04:33 PM
But were Kaplans calls so blatantly wrong as to by absolutely mystical as to what he saw and what rules were contravened?
Yes, maybe Kaplan did hammer on Bakkies a bit to much but he wasn't making up **** and giving EVERY 50/50 call to the Sharks.
Yes, maybe Kaplan did hammer on Bakkies a bit to much but he wasn't making up **** and giving EVERY 50/50 call to the Sharks.
Devill
27-06-2011, 05:13 PM
I think the Sharks played poorly, none of the fighting spirit that was seen against the Bulls.
Yes the ref had a couple of shockers but a score of 36-8 can not be blamed solely on old Bryce.
But well done for reaching the play offs. Hope next year you can go even further.
Yes the ref had a couple of shockers but a score of 36-8 can not be blamed solely on old Bryce.
But well done for reaching the play offs. Hope next year you can go even further.
hungrybeaver
28-06-2011, 11:20 AM
Well done to the team for getting this far in the competition. I'm sure we are all proud of how far they got, as I honestly gave up hope for a play-off spot when we returned from overseas. I am extremely happy to say the Sharks proved me wrong and glad to see they picked their game up in the latter weeks.
The game this weekend wasn't the greatest performance from us and we made sloppy errors which the 'Saders fed off. The ball was kept amongst the forwards too much so when the backs got the ball they had no support or no where to run but into a Crusader. The final score wasn't a true reflection of the game (some of you may disagree - I don't care) and if we got the basics right it may have been a slightly different result. Our defence held up well for the most part (line defence was fantastic as always) and Sonny Bill wasn't able to run riot as he has done so many times this season. Our counter-rucking (holy s**t) was incredible! Never before have I seen a NZ team, let alone the Crusaders, being rucked like they're a high school team. Pity we weren't able to take advantage. Bringing Smit on was the nail in the coffin I'm afraid. As much as he needs game time, I felt that there was no positive for the decision as he is not an impact player. The 'Saders just knew what to do when they had the ball and its clear that they've been in many finals.
I'm not going to say much about the ref as just comments have been made and I'd just be repeating what has been said. DJ's post (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/156939-Sharks-Supporters-Thread?p=6371603&viewfull=1#post6371603) took the words out of my mouth. What I will say is this: How long are the refs going to get away with unacceptable performances? Its sad to read many reports on the game with a paragraph or 2 about the ref, but nothing more. When is a franchise or union going to go to SANZAR/IRB and demand that refs must be held responsible for poor games? Yes there are times where calls go wrong, we are human after all, but when a ref has a game with such blatant bias and unequal decisions constantly being made, action needs to be taken. When an official of such incompetence has a say in the game, it is no longer a fair game and is no longer enjoyable. Officials in rugby are put on a pedestal and they get away with murder. There needs to be an independent board of regulators that check and re-check the officials performances after games, scrutinise their decisions and sideline them for poor performances. If there is, they are not doing their job. Its for the good of the game and I hope Lawrence's shocking display of refing(?) brings light to the fact that officials involved in world-class games need to be world-class themselves.
Oh well. Currie Cup in a few weeks, looking forward to it!
The game this weekend wasn't the greatest performance from us and we made sloppy errors which the 'Saders fed off. The ball was kept amongst the forwards too much so when the backs got the ball they had no support or no where to run but into a Crusader. The final score wasn't a true reflection of the game (some of you may disagree - I don't care) and if we got the basics right it may have been a slightly different result. Our defence held up well for the most part (line defence was fantastic as always) and Sonny Bill wasn't able to run riot as he has done so many times this season. Our counter-rucking (holy s**t) was incredible! Never before have I seen a NZ team, let alone the Crusaders, being rucked like they're a high school team. Pity we weren't able to take advantage. Bringing Smit on was the nail in the coffin I'm afraid. As much as he needs game time, I felt that there was no positive for the decision as he is not an impact player. The 'Saders just knew what to do when they had the ball and its clear that they've been in many finals.
I'm not going to say much about the ref as just comments have been made and I'd just be repeating what has been said. DJ's post (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/156939-Sharks-Supporters-Thread?p=6371603&viewfull=1#post6371603) took the words out of my mouth. What I will say is this: How long are the refs going to get away with unacceptable performances? Its sad to read many reports on the game with a paragraph or 2 about the ref, but nothing more. When is a franchise or union going to go to SANZAR/IRB and demand that refs must be held responsible for poor games? Yes there are times where calls go wrong, we are human after all, but when a ref has a game with such blatant bias and unequal decisions constantly being made, action needs to be taken. When an official of such incompetence has a say in the game, it is no longer a fair game and is no longer enjoyable. Officials in rugby are put on a pedestal and they get away with murder. There needs to be an independent board of regulators that check and re-check the officials performances after games, scrutinise their decisions and sideline them for poor performances. If there is, they are not doing their job. Its for the good of the game and I hope Lawrence's shocking display of refing(?) brings light to the fact that officials involved in world-class games need to be world-class themselves.
Oh well. Currie Cup in a few weeks, looking forward to it!
Pixual
28-06-2011, 12:05 PM
One thing I can say about the Super 15 is that there is not much super about it.
I think this format totally blows chunks and I know I'm not the only one. I was offered tickets to go and see several of the games this year and I passed on most of them. Just a waste of time, really.
What they need to do is play this thing like they play the English Premier League. Each team in the competition plays each other twice, one home game, one away game. The team that has the most points once all the games are played is the champion and that's that. Forget these play-offs, semis and finals, They are just a lottery and while we have all these dodgy refs around the outcome of those games actually means very little.
Of course this will never happen, but only because SANZAR are a bunch of money hungry bastĺrds who are not actually interested in the sport beyond how much they can profit from it.
I think this format totally blows chunks and I know I'm not the only one. I was offered tickets to go and see several of the games this year and I passed on most of them. Just a waste of time, really.
What they need to do is play this thing like they play the English Premier League. Each team in the competition plays each other twice, one home game, one away game. The team that has the most points once all the games are played is the champion and that's that. Forget these play-offs, semis and finals, They are just a lottery and while we have all these dodgy refs around the outcome of those games actually means very little.
Of course this will never happen, but only because SANZAR are a bunch of money hungry bastĺrds who are not actually interested in the sport beyond how much they can profit from it.
Devill
28-06-2011, 12:15 PM
One thing I can say about the Super 15 is that there is not much super about it.
I think this format totally blows chunks and I know I'm not the only one. I was offered tickets to go and see several of the games this year and I passed on most of them. Just a waste of time, really.
What they need to do is play this thing like they play the English Premier League. Each team in the competition plays each other twice, one home game, one away game. The team that has the most points once all the games are played is the champion and that's that. Forget these play-offs, semis and finals, They are just a lottery and while we have all these dodgy refs around the outcome of those games actually means very little.
Of course this will never happen, but only because SANZAR are a bunch of money hungry bastĺrds who are not actually interested in the sport beyond how much they can profit from it.
Mmmm correct me if im wrong but if 15 teams play each other twice (once home, once away) it will take 28 weeks? Well if only on game per team is played per week (no Byes), as rugby i think takes a bit more out of you physically and I can not see that "wednesday night" games will draw great crowds....
It would be a better reflection of who was the better team in the whole season but I doubt if it is a reachable goal barring if the different teams start having a pool of 60 players they could draw from.
Just my 2c.
I think this format totally blows chunks and I know I'm not the only one. I was offered tickets to go and see several of the games this year and I passed on most of them. Just a waste of time, really.
What they need to do is play this thing like they play the English Premier League. Each team in the competition plays each other twice, one home game, one away game. The team that has the most points once all the games are played is the champion and that's that. Forget these play-offs, semis and finals, They are just a lottery and while we have all these dodgy refs around the outcome of those games actually means very little.
Of course this will never happen, but only because SANZAR are a bunch of money hungry bastĺrds who are not actually interested in the sport beyond how much they can profit from it.
Mmmm correct me if im wrong but if 15 teams play each other twice (once home, once away) it will take 28 weeks? Well if only on game per team is played per week (no Byes), as rugby i think takes a bit more out of you physically and I can not see that "wednesday night" games will draw great crowds....
It would be a better reflection of who was the better team in the whole season but I doubt if it is a reachable goal barring if the different teams start having a pool of 60 players they could draw from.
Just my 2c.
Pixual
28-06-2011, 01:03 PM
Yes, they should have bigger pools of players. It would do wonders for the depth and experience of our players.
Another option is to rotate the competition between the three countries every year and play it over three months in the same country. That'll fill up stadiums for sure, especially if you know you're only going to be able to get to those games once every three years.
Another option is to rotate the competition between the three countries every year and play it over three months in the same country. That'll fill up stadiums for sure, especially if you know you're only going to be able to get to those games once every three years.
Devill
28-06-2011, 01:37 PM
Yes, they should have bigger pools of players. It would do wonders for the depth and experience of our players.
Another option is to rotate the competition between the three countries every year and play it over three months in the same country. That'll fill up stadiums for sure, especially if you know you're only going to be able to get to those games once every three years.
Yeah that would be grand but the problem is how will the Lions / cheetahs get 50 players? No offence but as is the Lions are struggeling to field a good enough 22 for the S15 and the cheetahs are plundered by the bigger unions every year....
But I seriously do like the idea :D
Another option is to rotate the competition between the three countries every year and play it over three months in the same country. That'll fill up stadiums for sure, especially if you know you're only going to be able to get to those games once every three years.
Yeah that would be grand but the problem is how will the Lions / cheetahs get 50 players? No offence but as is the Lions are struggeling to field a good enough 22 for the S15 and the cheetahs are plundered by the bigger unions every year....
But I seriously do like the idea :D
Pixual
28-06-2011, 02:27 PM
Well if they play it in one country over a 2 or 3 month window then they won't need to play each opponent twice as everyone will be in the same country. I think it would be ace. Make a festival out of it.
AND...
we've got extra stadia here anyway! :D
AND...
we've got extra stadia here anyway! :D
hungrybeaver
15-07-2011, 08:59 AM
Well a new season is about to start and we will be defending the title. Some new additions to the first team in place of the players on Springbok duty and I'm sure some guys are relishing the opportunity to show the coaches that they should be picked more often (Burden).
Stefan at 15 and Ludik at 14... would it not have made sense to switch these players positions with each other? I'm looking forward to seeing Richards play - a lot has been said about this guy. And lets not forget Sithole! Man I hope he gets some game time!
Kickoff is 17:05 at Kings Park.
The Team:
15. Stefan Terblanche
14. Louis Ludik
13. Marius Joubert
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Mark Richards
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Ross Cronje
8. Keegan Daniel (Capt)
7. Marcell Coetzee
6. Jacques Botes
5. Ross Skeate
4. Anton Bresler
3. Wiehahn Herbst
2. Craig Burden
1. Eugene van Staden
Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper
17. Dale Chadwick
18. Jan Andre Marais
19. Francois Kleinhans
20. Jacobus Reinach
21. Jacques-Louis Potgieter
22. Sibusiso Sithole
Stefan at 15 and Ludik at 14... would it not have made sense to switch these players positions with each other? I'm looking forward to seeing Richards play - a lot has been said about this guy. And lets not forget Sithole! Man I hope he gets some game time!
Kickoff is 17:05 at Kings Park.
The Team:
15. Stefan Terblanche
14. Louis Ludik
13. Marius Joubert
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Mark Richards
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Ross Cronje
8. Keegan Daniel (Capt)
7. Marcell Coetzee
6. Jacques Botes
5. Ross Skeate
4. Anton Bresler
3. Wiehahn Herbst
2. Craig Burden
1. Eugene van Staden
Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper
17. Dale Chadwick
18. Jan Andre Marais
19. Francois Kleinhans
20. Jacobus Reinach
21. Jacques-Louis Potgieter
22. Sibusiso Sithole
Pixual
15-07-2011, 12:32 PM
*yawn*
Taking on the boneheads from up north again is real entertainment...
SANZAR really screwed us this year. I already turned down tickets to this game.
Taking on the boneheads from up north again is real entertainment...
SANZAR really screwed us this year. I already turned down tickets to this game.
Pixual
16-07-2011, 10:32 PM
Great snakes! A nice win by the Sharks.
If I can poke my cynical finger into the pumpkin for a second... I hate it when the Sharks start well. They grow over confident and on too many occasions fail to win the games they should win at the business end.
But, finger out, it's always good to beat those trophy thieves from up in Sin City... :)
If I can poke my cynical finger into the pumpkin for a second... I hate it when the Sharks start well. They grow over confident and on too many occasions fail to win the games they should win at the business end.
But, finger out, it's always good to beat those trophy thieves from up in Sin City... :)
MickeyD
16-07-2011, 10:35 PM
/waits to hear excuses from my colleagues on Monday...
DJ...
17-07-2011, 02:47 AM
Although I missed the game today, as a true Sharks supporter I can confirm that I have no complaints against the ref this time around...:D
hungrybeaver
18-07-2011, 08:41 AM
We played well. At times we got too carried away and just swung the ball for the heck of it. I must say I really enjoyed the pops in the tackle to a supporting player...keeps the momentum going and the opposition on the back foot. Nice cheeky cross field kick by Michalak :D Reminds me of Van Straatens try years ago.
Man Kings Park was empty :( At R55 a ticket I would've expected more people.. the weather wasn't bad either. I've never seen the pubs that empty before & during a game.
Man Kings Park was empty :( At R55 a ticket I would've expected more people.. the weather wasn't bad either. I've never seen the pubs that empty before & during a game.
Pixual
19-07-2011, 08:43 AM
It's the third time we have played the Bulls this season. Hardly surprising there wasn't much interest. I was offered tickets and declined. The beer is expensive. The food is too. Finding parking is a PITA. And then there's a good chance you will be pulled over by some criminal in a cops uniform on the way home and asked to blow into a device.
If you want to take a family of 4 to a game it's going to run you well over R500 once you've bought tickets, paid for parking, a drink and a hot dog. And what do you get for your money that you can't get at home or in a local watering hole for a lot less?
The NRU needs a complete shake up in the marketing department. They've been doing the same **** for nearly 20 years and it's boring. Flashers girls? Yaah, that was entertaining for a couple of seasons back in the 90's. Sharky? Mmmm.... Maybe for the kids, but since 80% of the people who attend the games are above the age of 15 perhaps they should dream up some other form of entertainment.
They really need to have a full marketing transfusion. Get people with brains in there to run the show, not the chops who have been doing it since they were still Banana Boys...
If you want to take a family of 4 to a game it's going to run you well over R500 once you've bought tickets, paid for parking, a drink and a hot dog. And what do you get for your money that you can't get at home or in a local watering hole for a lot less?
The NRU needs a complete shake up in the marketing department. They've been doing the same **** for nearly 20 years and it's boring. Flashers girls? Yaah, that was entertaining for a couple of seasons back in the 90's. Sharky? Mmmm.... Maybe for the kids, but since 80% of the people who attend the games are above the age of 15 perhaps they should dream up some other form of entertainment.
They really need to have a full marketing transfusion. Get people with brains in there to run the show, not the chops who have been doing it since they were still Banana Boys...
Devill
19-07-2011, 08:48 AM
Congrats to the Sharks.
They deserved the winning margin :D
Think the big difference was the experience and the flyhalves imo. Hope us Bulls can put up a better game next time around.
They deserved the winning margin :D
Think the big difference was the experience and the flyhalves imo. Hope us Bulls can put up a better game next time around.
Hemi300c
19-07-2011, 03:44 PM
Yip a different ball game when the BOK squad is not in their teams - but the Sharks woulda beaten them anyhow. Coming from Pretoria I love it when the Bulls get whipped.
Sym2Droid
20-07-2011, 04:28 PM
My favourite and probably the best fan site. ''Sharksworld''
ErEkTiLe_DySfUnKsHuN
22-07-2011, 06:20 PM
Check the Supersport website to watch tonight's game via "Live Video Streaming".
MickeyD
22-07-2011, 07:09 PM
Thanks E_D, now my wife is really pissed off with me!
On PC - Sharks (streaming) and WP (SS1)
On TV - Test @ Lords (SS2)
On PC - Sharks (streaming) and WP (SS1)
On TV - Test @ Lords (SS2)
lilggg
22-07-2011, 07:34 PM
Score update any1,can't stream :(
MickeyD
22-07-2011, 07:48 PM
Pumas 19
Sharks 16
Half time
Sharks 16
Half time
lilggg
22-07-2011, 07:52 PM
Thanks.
MickeyD
22-07-2011, 08:16 PM
Pumas 22
Sharks 16
58 min
Sharks 16
58 min
hungrybeaver
22-07-2011, 08:18 PM
Come on Sharks!
MickeyD
22-07-2011, 08:40 PM
Pumas 22
Sharks 23
The End.
/thank goodness!
Sharks 23
The End.
/thank goodness!
MickeyD
22-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Damn... that was a nail biter!!
How long was that game? Extra 3 minutes??
How long was that game? Extra 3 minutes??
Sym2Droid
22-07-2011, 08:50 PM
Who scored the winning try??
APoc184
22-07-2011, 08:50 PM
That was a great game. Pumas played out of their skins. But Sharks were terribly flat and their handling nowhere.
lilggg
22-07-2011, 08:51 PM
Damn,seems like i missed a cracker,thanks to supersport for showing the one sided game, for those of us who can't stream.Well done sharks.
Sym2Droid
22-07-2011, 08:53 PM
Stonehouse is going to have a fit, twice losing when they couldve won. Well done Sharks!
APoc184
22-07-2011, 08:55 PM
Who scored the winning try??
Dale Chadwick the prop.
Dale Chadwick the prop.
Sym2Droid
22-07-2011, 08:57 PM
Dale Chadwick the prop.
Great stuff! Thanks
Great stuff! Thanks
Killer
24-07-2011, 07:55 PM
Sharks were damn lucky to win.
APoc184
24-07-2011, 09:09 PM
Very lucky indeed but the Pumas were always going to fade towards the end and they would haver scored anyway from the move that led to the Pumas yellow card and subsequently the winning try for the Sharks.
Was one of the best games I saw in a very long time. Pumas played out of their skins. Especially if you take into consideration that they lost winger Ashwin Scott shortly before kick-off and also lost centre Pieter Engelbrecht in the first half when he broke his ankle.
I really really like their young new flanker Marcell Coetzee. Very much in the mould of Willem Alberts
Was one of the best games I saw in a very long time. Pumas played out of their skins. Especially if you take into consideration that they lost winger Ashwin Scott shortly before kick-off and also lost centre Pieter Engelbrecht in the first half when he broke his ankle.
I really really like their young new flanker Marcell Coetzee. Very much in the mould of Willem Alberts
Killer
24-07-2011, 09:27 PM
Gonna be a though game against Cheetahs this weekend.
Mephisto_Helix
30-07-2011, 03:31 PM
Cronje's suck so bad ... wish the Sharks would/could just sell them away.
Korn1
30-07-2011, 04:30 PM
Must admit that was a good try from the Cheetahs
DJ...
30-07-2011, 06:54 PM
Sorry but Cronje is the most disappointing scrummie we've had in ages. His passing is atrocious...
hungrybeaver
31-07-2011, 09:58 PM
First half we were pure class. When the guys ran out for the second half they must've thought they'd won it because we just didn't know what to do! We were lucky not to throw it away! The Sharks of all teams know that you cannot write off the Cheetahs..
Devill
01-08-2011, 12:39 PM
Must say the Sharks have looked good thus far barring the Pumas game.
Will not at all be surprised if you guys take it all the way to the finals.
Will not at all be surprised if you guys take it all the way to the finals.
DJ...
01-08-2011, 12:41 PM
Our defence needs major overhauling or a stern talking to. I suppose that's the problem with inexperience though - defence comes as a result of experience...
Devill
01-08-2011, 04:00 PM
Our defence needs major overhauling or a stern talking to. I suppose that's the problem with inexperience though - defence comes as a result of experience...
Haha, yes but not one of the Curie Cup teams have impressed on defense thus far. It is because there are a lot of youngsters and new combinations as well as a new "chief-in-charge" here and there.
Haha, yes but not one of the Curie Cup teams have impressed on defense thus far. It is because there are a lot of youngsters and new combinations as well as a new "chief-in-charge" here and there.
McT
11-08-2011, 09:34 PM
I see Ryan Kankowski is back for the game on Saturday.
hungrybeaver
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Yep. Lambie at 12 tonight. Should be a really good game against WP.
Ou grote
12-08-2011, 03:43 PM
Its raining here, hope the sharks can swim.
Pixual
12-08-2011, 03:54 PM
Yep. Lambie at 12 tonight.
WTF?
Sometimes I think the biggest curse God smote me with was intelligence amidst a sea of stupidity. I think it would be better to just be one of the stupid.
WTF?
Sometimes I think the biggest curse God smote me with was intelligence amidst a sea of stupidity. I think it would be better to just be one of the stupid.
MickeyD
12-08-2011, 09:08 PM
Freddie took to Newlands like a frog to a pond!!!
B@rrels
12-08-2011, 09:17 PM
Freddie took to Newlands like a frog to a pond!!!
Oui oui monsieur !!:D
Oui oui monsieur !!:D
Devill
12-08-2011, 09:39 PM
well done sharks, took the points when they were on offer.
McT
12-08-2011, 09:55 PM
Freddie took to Newlands like a frog to a pond!!!
Or a duck to water... :p
Well done Sharks!
Or a duck to water... :p
Well done Sharks!
Pixual
12-08-2011, 10:08 PM
Good win by the Sharks. WP were lucky to get that try.
Lambie played well at 12. I take back what I said.
Lambie played well at 12. I take back what I said.
Devill
12-08-2011, 10:15 PM
Good win by the Sharks. WP were lucky to get that try.
Lambie played well at 12. I take back what I said.
as a neutral I am just wondering if the sharks are screwing up another player by playing him out of position...
Lambie played well at 12. I take back what I said.
as a neutral I am just wondering if the sharks are screwing up another player by playing him out of position...
Mephisto_Helix
12-08-2011, 10:38 PM
Well played by the Sharks, horrid weather to play in but wcyd :D
@ the witty WeePeer (aka alf) - looks like they can swim huh.
@ Devill - I don't think they are at all, he's young and they needed him at 12, where he's played before. As long as his team mates support around him, he's all gravy.
@ the witty WeePeer (aka alf) - looks like they can swim huh.
@ Devill - I don't think they are at all, he's young and they needed him at 12, where he's played before. As long as his team mates support around him, he's all gravy.
DJ...
13-08-2011, 04:41 AM
Awesome work by the boys, but ffs that ref had absolutely no idea how to blow the scrums in those conditions. I've rarely seen a game thwart with is many scrum infringements called and the majority of them proved to be wrong...
Pixual
13-08-2011, 07:21 AM
as a neutral I am just wondering if the sharks are screwing up another player by playing him out of position...
We had some serious issues at number 12 since the season began, so I guess they wanted to plug that hole and Lambie was the best fit. I did notice him getting in Michalak's way a couple of times though.
We had some serious issues at number 12 since the season began, so I guess they wanted to plug that hole and Lambie was the best fit. I did notice him getting in Michalak's way a couple of times though.
SinghDude
13-08-2011, 07:21 AM
That french dude is pretty talented ;)
McT
14-08-2011, 11:04 PM
That french dude is pretty talented ;)
Hear, hear! A game played in horrendous conditions. Good to see the Sharks take the 4 points on offer.
Hear, hear! A game played in horrendous conditions. Good to see the Sharks take the 4 points on offer.
hungrybeaver
15-08-2011, 08:03 AM
The team played well in poor conditions. Would have been great to see this game with no rain, it was a good battle nonetheless. Michalaks boot is pretty good :D
Kanko's hair is gone :wtf:
Kanko's hair is gone :wtf:
Albereth
15-08-2011, 08:46 AM
The team played well in poor conditions. Would have been great to see this game with no rain, it was a good battle nonetheless. Michalaks boot is pretty good :D
Kanko's hair is gone :wtf:
Perhaps he can give Francois Steyn his hairdresser's number. That hair is ridiculous.
Kanko's hair is gone :wtf:
Perhaps he can give Francois Steyn his hairdresser's number. That hair is ridiculous.
Devill
15-08-2011, 04:54 PM
We had some serious issues at number 12 since the season began, so I guess they wanted to plug that hole and Lambie was the best fit. I did notice him getting in Michalak's way a couple of times though.
I am still wondering what Lambies "position" is... flyhalf or fullback?
I hope that they give him the nr 10 spot as SA needs flyhalves. (Butch I presume will not make another WC after 2011 :p).
I am still wondering what Lambies "position" is... flyhalf or fullback?
I hope that they give him the nr 10 spot as SA needs flyhalves. (Butch I presume will not make another WC after 2011 :p).
hungrybeaver
18-08-2011, 11:09 AM
Team for tomorrow:
15 Louis Ludik,
14 Odwa Ndungane,
13 Marius Joubert,
12 Meyer Bosman,
11 Sbura Sithole,
10 Fred Michalak,
9 Conrad Hoffmann,
8 Ryan Kankowski,
7 Marcell Coetzee,
6 Jacques Botes (capt),
5 Ross Skeate,
4 Anton Bresler,
3 Wiehahn Herbst,
2 Craig Burden,
1 Dale Chadwick
Replacements:
16 Kyle Cooper,
17 Eugene van Staden,
18 Alistair Hargreaves,
19 Keegan Daniel,
20 Charl McLeod,
21 Adrian Jacobs,
22 Stefan Terblanche
Couple of the guys are getting a deserved rest. Haven't seen too much of Joubert, maybe at 13 he can show us what he's made of. Good to see Sithole and Coetzee getting more games in. Hope the weather stays good so we can spread the ball!
Knowing Durban, the stadium will be practically empty tomorrow. Any of you DBN okes not doing anything tomorrow should come to the game!
15 Louis Ludik,
14 Odwa Ndungane,
13 Marius Joubert,
12 Meyer Bosman,
11 Sbura Sithole,
10 Fred Michalak,
9 Conrad Hoffmann,
8 Ryan Kankowski,
7 Marcell Coetzee,
6 Jacques Botes (capt),
5 Ross Skeate,
4 Anton Bresler,
3 Wiehahn Herbst,
2 Craig Burden,
1 Dale Chadwick
Replacements:
16 Kyle Cooper,
17 Eugene van Staden,
18 Alistair Hargreaves,
19 Keegan Daniel,
20 Charl McLeod,
21 Adrian Jacobs,
22 Stefan Terblanche
Couple of the guys are getting a deserved rest. Haven't seen too much of Joubert, maybe at 13 he can show us what he's made of. Good to see Sithole and Coetzee getting more games in. Hope the weather stays good so we can spread the ball!
Knowing Durban, the stadium will be practically empty tomorrow. Any of you DBN okes not doing anything tomorrow should come to the game!
Pixual
18-08-2011, 01:20 PM
Why? Expensive beer, lousy food, same on-field *** that we've been seeing since 1996 and a long walk back to your car.
Maybe I'm getting withered enthusiasm but I would much rather watch from the comfort of my home and not further enrich those greedy pigs at the NRU.
Maybe I'm getting withered enthusiasm but I would much rather watch from the comfort of my home and not further enrich those greedy pigs at the NRU.
hungrybeaver
18-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Meh, I enjoy going to the stadium and supporting the team from the stands. Its a 1km walk back home for me, so I'll probably go and punch a hole in the ticket.
McT
23-08-2011, 08:01 AM
Maybe I'm getting withered enthusiasm but I would much rather watch from the comfort of my home...
Maybe you've done it often enough, but I honestly look forward to my next opportunity when I can put my bum in a bucket seat and go delirious over a game.
But that's me.
Going to Ellis Park in Joburg isn't the same as Kings Park.
Maybe you've done it often enough, but I honestly look forward to my next opportunity when I can put my bum in a bucket seat and go delirious over a game.
But that's me.
Going to Ellis Park in Joburg isn't the same as Kings Park.
Pixual
23-08-2011, 12:17 PM
Never been to Ellis Park. Never want to either...
hungrybeaver
23-08-2011, 01:12 PM
I was at the game on Friday and it was frikkin dead. Maybe like 3000 people in the entire stadium and you could sit pretty much anywhere. Upside was the queues for beer were non-existent :p
I expected us to score more tries, and we really had this lackluster look about us. Many, many times we could have scored but we dropped the ball or didn't pass at the right times. It was a win nonetheless.
I expected us to score more tries, and we really had this lackluster look about us. Many, many times we could have scored but we dropped the ball or didn't pass at the right times. It was a win nonetheless.
McT
26-08-2011, 09:06 PM
Clash of the tournament tomorrow @ 17h00. Should be epic.
MickeyD
26-08-2011, 09:11 PM
Clash of the tournament tomorrow @ 17h00. Should be epic.
Josh Strauss out...
Josh Strauss out...
Stevie G
27-08-2011, 08:38 AM
Lions will win it by 7-10 points
Pixual
27-08-2011, 11:20 AM
They seem to have the fire in their bellies. But when the Sharks decide to turn things on they can make light work of any team. One of my biggest frustrations with them in over 20 years of being a Natal supporter is the lack of consistency...
McT
27-08-2011, 11:25 AM
The Sharks
15. Louis Ludik
14. Sibusiso Sithole
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Charl McLeod
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Marcell Coetzee
6. Keegan Daniel (Captain)
5. Ross Skeate
4. Anton Bresler
3. Wiehahn Herbst
2. Craig Burden
1. Dale Chadwick
Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper
17. Eugene van Staden
18. Jan Andre Marais
19. Jean Deysel
20. Jacques Botes
21. Conrad Hoffmann
22. Adrian Jacobs
15. Louis Ludik
14. Sibusiso Sithole
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Meyer Bosman
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Charl McLeod
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Marcell Coetzee
6. Keegan Daniel (Captain)
5. Ross Skeate
4. Anton Bresler
3. Wiehahn Herbst
2. Craig Burden
1. Dale Chadwick
Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper
17. Eugene van Staden
18. Jan Andre Marais
19. Jean Deysel
20. Jacques Botes
21. Conrad Hoffmann
22. Adrian Jacobs
McT
27-08-2011, 08:53 PM
Well done to the Lions. So sad about this result :(
Somehow they weren't ever in the game. Why?
Somehow they weren't ever in the game. Why?
Pixual
27-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Well done to the Lions. So sad about this result :(
Somehow they weren't ever in the game. Why?
Charl MacLoed is a big problem in this Sharks side. He's frikking useless, brainless and every other 'less in the book. Losing Kockett was the stupidest move they have ever made.
But full credit to the Lions. I like their style of play and I like that they are showing the hunger that they do. CC final this year should be between them and Free State.
Somehow they weren't ever in the game. Why?
Charl MacLoed is a big problem in this Sharks side. He's frikking useless, brainless and every other 'less in the book. Losing Kockett was the stupidest move they have ever made.
But full credit to the Lions. I like their style of play and I like that they are showing the hunger that they do. CC final this year should be between them and Free State.
McT
27-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Definitely was not his best game. Sharks did not seem to make quality possession & opportunities. Disappointing.
elysian
28-08-2011, 10:32 AM
Jantjies's linebreaks were so easy, because Chadwick was in front of him almost every time. On one occasion, both props were in the centres.
Devill
29-08-2011, 12:13 PM
Charl MacLoed is a big problem in this Sharks side. He's frikking useless, brainless and every other 'less in the book. Losing Kockett was the stupidest move they have ever made.
But full credit to the Lions. I like their style of play and I like that they are showing the hunger that they do. CC final this year should be between them and Free State.
Not if the Free State is losing to the G'Kwas :p:D
But full credit to the Lions. I like their style of play and I like that they are showing the hunger that they do. CC final this year should be between them and Free State.
Not if the Free State is losing to the G'Kwas :p:D
Ou grote
29-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Definitely was not his best game. Sharks did not seem to make quality possession & opportunities. Disappointing.
These Sharkies need to catch a fcking wakeup, they're messing up my superbru score.
These Sharkies need to catch a fcking wakeup, they're messing up my superbru score.
Type RSA
31-08-2011, 01:34 PM
Agreed, I'm also lagging behind now, cause if I say they going to win then they don't and if I dnt back them they win. Damn
McT
03-09-2011, 06:37 PM
Is it too early to call? :D
McT
03-09-2011, 06:55 PM
Good game! :)
Pixual
03-09-2011, 11:06 PM
Way too many handling errors from the Sharks. They needed to bury that under strength Bulls side, yet they let them score 4 tries when they could not themselves.
hungrybeaver
04-09-2011, 09:03 PM
Oh yes!
Korn1
07-09-2011, 03:03 PM
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/26408/title/blou-bul/cat/500
:whistle:
:whistle:
Mephisto_Helix
10-09-2011, 04:18 PM
We really need to sort out our scrummie problem ...... these backup idiots we have make Charl look good (and he is average at best).
McT
10-09-2011, 07:54 PM
Bring back Kockitt ;)
Pixual
10-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Michelak is a 9. They should put him there and let Potgeiter play 10.
DJ...
11-09-2011, 02:09 AM
Was another OK performance. Our Boks aren't really performing to the best abilities which is a little worrying, but I'm sure seeing our U-21 team knock over 88 points against the Valke will kick up a few schit-storms...:D
Mephisto_Helix
17-09-2011, 04:04 PM
Fsck.off .with.your.kicking.shyte.Terblanche
MickeyD
17-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Marius Jonker is having a blinder.... NOT!!!
Mephisto_Helix
17-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Love how the 1 of the Cheetahs can play the ball in the ruck but they get the penalty ......
Mephisto_Helix
17-09-2011, 04:13 PM
This arse just never calls ruck when we have the ball, they are just being let to do as they please at the breakdown :mad:
DJ...
17-09-2011, 04:19 PM
Marius Joubert has missed a helluva good game today. Some shocking refereeing, although the scoreline is not helped by our unforced errors...
BigAl-sa
17-09-2011, 04:31 PM
Cheetahs in a different league at the mo!