Sharks Supporters Thread

[SinghDude]

Cheetahs in a different league at the mo!

Tell that to Gumede and co @ the Lions

[SinghDude]

When last did the Sharks concede 50 ?

Gosh seems to be the Lions and Cheetahs that want the Currie Cup most.

[Mephisto_Helix]

I'll say it again, this Cronje chop is not even a scrumhalf's arse .....

[McT]

I'll say it again, this Cronje chop is not even a scrumhalf's arse .....

Couldn't watch the whole game, but the little I saw of him wasn't that great. Charl McLeod impressed straight away.

Great win though for the Sharks. And with a win with 4 tries is fantastic! :)

[Pixual]

At points I thought they were going to lose that game. Shocking standard of play from the Sharks.

And it's not like they don't have a good team. Look at the names in that squad. There are internationals aplenty. What's the problem? They should be munching teams like Griquas for breakfast.

[Devill]

At points I thought they were going to lose that game. Shocking standard of play from the Sharks.

And it's not like they don't have a good team. Look at the names in that squad. There are internationals aplenty. What's the problem? They should be munching teams like Griquas for breakfast.

Watched the game and I must say that silly mistakes and the fact that there was no backline rhythm or great forward play came close to sinking the sharks. Well done on the win though. A home final is still on the cards if one or two things happen to the Lions.

[Pixual]

I think these guys are going into a lot of these games without any clear game plan. Sure seems that way.

[Devill]

Well I am a Bull and there is a VERY reak chance that we might not even make the Semis this year :o

I am sure that the Sharks will pull it together.

[Pixual]

Well I am a Bull and there is a VERY reak chance that we might not even make the Semis this year :o


That would reek of an ill wind! Let's hope it doesn't happen, eh? ;)

[Devill]

That would reek of an ill wind! Let's hope it doesn't happen, eh? ;)

Haha, hate typos. Yes after this weekend we might be on par with the Weepee or even one point up on them :D

[McT]

I am sure that the Sharks will pull it together.

There's every chance of them getting ducks in a row. Also, any chance of the top 5 still making the semis.

[Devill]

There's every chance of them getting ducks in a row. Also, any chance of the top 5 still making the semis.

Jip Bulls have 3 "easy" games, playing the Pumas, Griekwas and Leopards.

The WP play the sharks, lions and Pumas.

This should go down to the wire :D

[Mephisto_Helix]

I want to poke my eyes out when I see Adi run on the field ....... error strewn player that needs to move on and away.

[MickeyD]

Something's missing... the spark.

[Mephisto_Helix]

this team has reverted to amateur play .......

[Mephisto_Helix]

Joubert worst.buy.ever

[sand_man]

Horrible game.

[Mephisto_Helix]

Lol and another try from a knock on goes ahead .......... fscking lack officials

[Mephisto_Helix]

oh

my

idiot

kick

[MickeyD]

A really disappointing display from the Sharks.

[sand_man]

The most entertaining part of the match was the little people handing out drinks and snacks there at the end.

Horrible game.

[FoXtroT]

What on earth has happened to them? Its like all of a sudden they haven't played rugby for the past 10 years. Sheesh.

[Pixual]

The whole standard of all the CC teams has sunk immeasurably since the RWC began. Schoolboys play better...

[MickeyD]

I hope the Sharks don't go to sleep again in the second half....

[hungrybeaver]

Win!

[McT]

Win!

...and they need one more to secure the all important home semi.

[Pixual]

The good news is that they will have a lot of players returning for the last round and ko's.

[FoXtroT]

53-9 Shows you how much having a couple/or lack of Springboks in your team can do for the scoreline

[hungrybeaver]

Home semi! :D

Interesting to see the impact a few boks have to a team. The teams were evenly matched for most of the first half, and when we brought on Alberts and Bismarck we became too powerful for the Lions. I'm impressed with Deysels continued upward performance at lock. The Lions play excellent rugby though and I wish them the best against WP. They do deserve a final.

I'm a bit worried for next week - Cheetahs v Sharks is always a cracker and you can never predict a winner. I suspect we'll start with the first team.

[SinghDude]

Sharks up to full strength again looking good. Will easily retain the currie cup 'methinks ;)

[McT]

Home semi! :D

Interesting to see the impact a few boks have to a team. The teams were evenly matched for most of the first half, and when we brought on Alberts and Bismarck we became too powerful for the Lions. I'm impressed with Deysels continued upward performance at lock. The Lions play excellent rugby though and I wish them the best against WP. They do deserve a final.

I'm a bit worried for next week - Cheetahs v Sharks is always a cracker and you can never predict a winner. I suspect we'll start with the first team.

And possibly home final if WP takes the Lions out. Remember WP have several Boks back at their disposal and I am sure they'll be on the field to get a spot in the final. I feel for the Lions.


Sharks up to full strength again looking good. Will easily retain the currie cup 'methinks ;)

Just what I'm thinking. The timing of returning players is awesome. Some good semis in the offing :)

[hungrybeaver]

And possibly home final if WP takes the Lions out. Remember WP have several Boks back at their disposal and I am sure they'll be on the field to get a spot in the final. I feel for the Lions.


Ooh a Sharks v WP final at Kings Park would be magical! A repeat of last year! I would really like to see the Lions get into the final due to the way they've played this season (and because they are long overdue for some sort of gratification), but on the other hand a final at Kings Park would be great! As a Sharks supporter I can't support WP either :o :D

Whatever happens we'll be seeing some good rugby over the next 2 weekends.

[Pixual]

I predict that our Sharks should see off the Cheetahs, PROVIDED we don't give them or their backs any ball to play with. Same thing applies if we get into a final against either the Lions or WP. If we dominate up front and retain possession, the sheer muscle of the Sharks will see them win the cup again.

Of course, we don't know if the Lions were sandbagging in last weekend's game either...

[McT]

Agreed. It is the Shark's trophy to lose.

[Pixual]

Funny how things go. I seem to remember Natal being given a huge bunt by the Blue Bulls 2 weeks before they played them in a final back in 1990. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself with the Lions in a similar position!

[FoXtroT]

Match 22

15. Patrick Lambie
14. Odwa Ndungane
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Marius Joubert
11. JP Pietersen
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Conrad Hoffmann
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Willem Alberts
6. Keegan Daniel (Captain)
5. Ross Skeate
4. Jean Deysel / Anton Bresler
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Tendai "Beast" Mtawarira

Replacements
16. Craig Burden
17. Eugene van Staden
18. Marcell Coetzee
19. Jacques Botes
20. Ross Cronje
21. Adrian Jacobs
22. Lwazi Mvovo

[hungrybeaver]

That is a strong team! Feel a bit sorry for the guys who've been left out and have played well (Mvovs, Burden, van Staden), I'd like to see them have a run out.

Sho the guys may battle tomorrow during the 3pm game... it's expected to reach 32deg!

[Mephisto_Helix]

I'd take Mvovo starting over Odwa anyday ..... :/

[McT]

I'd take Mvovo starting over Odwa anyday ..... :/

Agree. His defensive game is continually improving. And if I add his trying scoring ability, he knocks the socks off Odwa.

Otherwise that's a tournament winning team. I say again, it's the Sharks to lose.

[Pixual]

The final will be a lot closer than most people are saying it will be.

My prediction is that the Lions will take an early lead and dominate in the first half, with the Sharks coming back strong (again) in part II. Whether they will be strong enough to put the Lions to the sword is the big question.

[McT]

Home ground advantage is a huge plus. It will definitely be a close/good game. It all comes down to the momentum of all the changes in the Sharks squad and if they will hit their groove come Saturday.

[SinghDude]

Sharks will coast the final.

[Pixual]

As much as they are my team and I will support them above any other team in the world (including the boks), I don't think the Sharks quite deserve the title this year. The Lions have played their hearts out in every game since Mitchell took over.

I'll be happy regardless of who wins. :)

[McT]

Yeah, Lions probably deserve it, but I am still rooting for a close game which the Sharks win.

[Arthur]

Sorry to intrude on this alien thread. Just here for a quick gloat. ;) (A very rare experience for a Lions supporter.)

[Fader4]

talk about n lekker pakslae :D

where are the sharks supporters? Congrats to the victors

[Arthur]

Sharks will coast the final.True words.

[McT]

A BLACK day for the Sharks :(

Well and truly outplayed.

[DJ...]

We were completely outplayed by the better team. The better team not just on the day, but the season.

Well done Lions. I think its great for SA rugby when the Lions are on song. Let's hope its a sign of things to come...

[McT]

Yes, really hope they carry that form into the Super 15 (or 16... not sure if it's been upgraded again?).

[Pixual]

The Lions played rugby like a team and that is what makes the difference. Well done to them, they are deserved champions.

Sharks? Well, too many prima donnas, not enough spirit. I think it's time to look at some new coaching staff - ESPECIALLY for the backs. Hugh Reece-Edwards proves yet again that he is not up to the task of coaching at the top level.

We have some good players but I think that there are some people who are holding us back. JP Pietersen did not impress much on Saturday. He's just off the boil. Mvovo is a better player in my opinion. I think Lambie must be played at flyhalf permanently. He's proven himself to be especially talented in this area and I think throughout the season he outplayed Freddie Michalak in that slot. If they are going to keep Michalak they should be playing him at number 9, which is where we have a big deficiency since the departure of Rory Cockett. Speaking of Cockett, where the hell is he playing these days? I thought he was in the Lions set up?

[APoc184]

Kockott is playing for Castres in the French Top 14.

Initially he went there on a loan agreement and just as injury cover but Castres have offered him a contract until the end of the season now. So he will stay there.

[Devill]

I hope that the Sharks will keep Lambie in one position regardless if it is at 15 or 10.

What was going on with Beast on Saturday? twice he went down without binding at all.

[Pixual]

I think Lambie is much more effective at 10 than at 15. He's a bloody clever little guy and he reads the play so well. Most of all he's unselfish with the ball.

I'm glad Kockett is still playing. He was another player with great promise and commitment who was screwed around by an inept management team at the NRU.

The Beast seems to be suffering from a bad case of egolitis. Too much public attention I think. Seems to be messing with his head.

I don't rate Bismarck Du Plessis at all. Everyone thinks he is this super player but if you analyse his game you'll see that he loses more lineout ball on his throwing than any other hooker that I know of. He goes into contact situations in an upright stance, invariably loses the ball and then gives away a penalty when he loses his cool. Not stable enough for me to rate him highly at all.

I think that the Sharks need to have a policy of selling off these "superstar" players, getting as much as they can for them and then putting the money into developing new talent from the academy level. There's nothing worse than a team full of big egos and that, I'm afraid, is what caused their undoing this past weekend. you'll probably find that the same thing will happen to the Lions now that they are champions again. They'll do well for a while and then hit the wall when they get too big for their boots.

[DJ...]

Lambie needs to start hitting the gym hard if he wants a permanent place at no.10. I prefer him at fullback because he is absolutely solid there and adds another dimension to our attacking play.

Looks like Michalak is leaving us, so I'd love to see someone like Anton Goosen brought into our squad and have him develop as a player. He is an immense talent and one that I think will not realise his true potential at The Cheetahs...

[DJ...]

Selling our superstars and drafting in new talent? Why? We have enough cash as it is, the best high performance centre in the country and agreements in place for first choice youngsters from other provinces who use our HPC.

There are no cash flow issues so selling our superstars will merely leave us cash-heavy and with nothing/nobody to spend it on. As a business, they have operated the franchise very well as it is. Basically what you're suggesting they do is repeat the mistakes that The Golden Lions made over the last decade. It took two seasons of player selloffs to hit rock bottom, and another 5 seasons to begin fixing the problems that created...

[Devill]

Lambie needs to start hitting the gym hard if he wants a permanent place at no.10. I prefer him at fullback because he is absolutely solid there and adds another dimension to our attacking play.

Looks like Michalak is leaving us, so I'd love to see someone like Anton Goosen brought into our squad and have him develop as a player. He is an immense talent and one that I think will not realise his true potential at The Cheetahs...

1) Lambie is fine as he is. See what "big" muscles did for Spies? Remember have good Andre Pretorius was before the bulked him up? Why super size him? Was Aaron Cruden at 10kgs or so less than lambie failing at flyhalf for the ABs? Or maybe Daniel Carter is not "gym fit" enough for flyhalf at the same weight and height class as Lambie? Lambie will bulk up a bit more NATURALLY over the next 3-4 years.

2) I agree with you that Lambie is great at Fullback. I will however not complain if he plays at flyhalf granted that he is kept at flyhalf and not run around like Frans / Russel was.


Selling our superstars and drafting in new talent? Why? We have enough cash as it is, the best high performance centre in the country and agreements in place for first choice youngsters from other provinces who use our HPC.

There are no cash flow issues so selling our superstars will merely leave us cash-heavy and with nothing/nobody to spend it on. As a business, they have operated the franchise very well as it is. Basically what you're suggesting they do is repeat the mistakes that The Golden Lions made over the last decade. It took two seasons of player selloffs to hit rock bottom, and another 5 seasons to begin fixing the problems that created...

+1. Must take my hat off to the Sharks as they have come from a smallish union to probably the second "richest". I hope though that the sharks get themselves some centres because if Adie Jacobs is your 1st choice on the bench you are in trouble.

[McT]

I think that the Sharks need to have a policy of selling off these "superstar" players, getting as much as they can for them and then putting the money into developing new talent from the academy level. There's nothing worse than a team full of big egos and that, I'm afraid, is what caused their undoing this past weekend. you'll probably find that the same thing will happen to the Lions now that they are champions again. They'll do well for a while and then hit the wall when they get too big for their boots.

I was at the game on Saturday. And I concur with your highlighted bit.

First, we were beaten and completely outplayed and all credit goes to the Lions for their performance.

Second, what I saw was passion and intensity from the Lions. They were out warming up about an hour before the game. And the Sharks? About 25 to 30 mins before the game. This was their biggest game of the year, dammit! I was bitterly disappointed their attitude. I didn't see the same passion or intensity. It would have taken something special to win in front of the vociferous Lions' supporters, but it never felt like they were going to do it.

Despite my disappointment, I still enjoyed the game, the atmosphere, etc.


Lambie needs to start hitting the gym hard if he wants a permanent place at no.10. I prefer him at fullback because he is absolutely solid there and adds another dimension to our attacking play.

Looks like Michalak is leaving us, so I'd love to see someone like Anton Goosen brought into our squad and have him develop as a player. He is an immense talent and one that I think will not realise his true potential at The Cheetahs...

You kidding? :eek: I thought he was with the team till this time next year?

If this be true, Sharks will definitely need to be out shopping. And nothing wrong with finding someone who can be developed into a 'superstar' ;)

[Devill]

I was at the game on Saturday. And I concur with your highlighted bit.

First, we were beaten and completely outplayed and all credit goes to the Lions for their performance.

Second, what I saw was passion and intensity from the Lions. They were out warming up about an hour before the game. And the Sharks? About 25 to 30 mins before the game. This was their biggest game of the year, dammit! I was bitterly disappointed their attitude. I didn't see the same passion or intensity. It would have taken something special to win in front of the vociferous Lions' supporters, but it never felt like they were going to do it.

Despite my disappointment, I still enjoyed the game, the atmosphere, etc.



You kidding? :eek: I thought he was with the team till this time next year?

If this be true, Sharks will definitely need to be out shopping. And nothing wrong with finding someone who can be developed into a 'superstar' ;)

Damn youz both! Goosen is coming to the Bulls :D

[DJ...]

I'm quite sure Goosen was a part of The Sharks' HPC for a while which means we probably have dibs on him.

Take nothing away from Lambie, he is superb as is. But with the evolution of the game with the gaps between backs and forwards getting smaller, I think future flyhalves need to bulk up a little. I'm not proposing he turn into a Spies (nobody would want that :p ). I'm suggesting he bulk up his upper body a bit...

[FoXtroT]

Looks like Tim Whitehead will be coming to the Sharks next season on a 3 year contract.

[Devill]

I'm quite sure Goosen was a part of The Sharks' HPC for a while which means we probably have dibs on him.

Take nothing away from Lambie, he is superb as is. But with the evolution of the game with the gaps between backs and forwards getting smaller, I think future flyhalves need to bulk up a little. I'm not proposing he turn into a Spies (nobody would want that :p ). I'm suggesting he bulk up his upper body a bit...

I do not like the super bulking of players. Guys like Guthro, Jaques Fourie, Lambie, Brussouw, Carter, Tana, McCaw, Dagg, Cooper, etc etc are doing just fine without gaining 10kgs :p

I think too many people focus too little on skills. Although some strength training is not a bad idea.

[FoXtroT]

Lambie is big enough, have you not seen him make any tackles, hand off players and his attacks on the gain line. He punches well above his weight.

[Pixual]

Yep, Paddy is perfect, just the way he is. I will go so far as to say that he is the most gifted player this country has seen in many, many years. I wish him nothing but the best for his future.

Somebody mentioned bulls. Is there a lobola auction going on?

[Devill]

Yep, Paddy is perfect, just the way he is. I will go so far as to say that he is the most gifted player this country has seen in many, many years. I wish him nothing but the best for his future.

Somebody mentioned bulls. Is there a lobola auction going on?

Lol, was saying Goosen should come to the bulls, he will compliment our WP backline very nicely :p

[McT]

Durban - New Sharks fullback Riaan Viljoen want's to use his new opportunity at the Sharks as a springboard for a possible Springbok call-up.

Viljoen is looking forward to a new adventure after signing from Griquas ahead of next year’s Super Rugby tournament.

And according to Sharks website editor, Michael Marnewick, Viljoen's aims and goals mirror those of every other player who makes the move to what are hopefully greener pastures. “I want to play regularly, be in the squad consistently and make a mark in the Sharks jersey. And hopefully make it into the Springbok squad as well.”

Viljoen said the decision to move to Durban was an easy one to make. “The weather is great, that makes it easy to come to Durban, and playing for the Sharks was always something I wanted to do.

"The fact that the Sharks have been successful in the last few years also influenced my decision to play my rugby here.

"You want to come to play for a team that’s playing winning rugby, not a team struggling to win. The Sharks get into finals and that was important for me.”

As an attacking fullback, he believes his style of rugby is suited to the Sharks, as well as theirs to his. “I hope so... We’ll have to see, but I’ll try. I love to run from the back, to offer what I can on attack and then kick when necessary” - he has a massive boot. “The Sharks play open, running rugby and that’s what I like," said Viljoen.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/New-Shark-aims-for-Bok-spot-20111124

Any one know how good he really is? I cannot recall seeing him. :o

[MickeyD]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/New-Shark-aims-for-Bok-spot-20111124

Any one know how good he really is? I cannot recall seeing him. :o
Griquas in CC and Cheetahs in S15. Went on the last end of season tour with the Boks iirc. Probably one of the better fullbacks around right now.

[McT]

Thanks, McD. Must say that Sharks have a knack of finding talent before it reaches full potential. All the best to Riaan.

[shovenose]

Banana Boys

[McT]

Banana Boys

:confused:

[shovenose]

:confused:

You guys use to buy those big bananas when you were called the Banana boys lol Dont tell me you cant remember

[FNfal]

May be to young to remember the guy that ran on to the field with the banana tree

[hungrybeaver]

I remember when the guys would do pushups and beat the drum during the game. Whatever happened to them? For whatever reason this came to an end a few years back.

Also, Sharks v Dolphins in T20 Cricket at Kingsmead on the 22 January! Should be a fun day out.

[Kosmik]

:confused:

There used to be coasters of a blue bull ( animal ) running around with a giant bannana up its butt :D

[McT]

Not long to go to the first game... any news on the team yet?

[hungrybeaver]

Nope, cant find anything. I think it'll be released tonight or tomorrow morning. Finally rugby is back!

[GreGorGy]

Not long to go to the first game... any news on the team yet?

In the main super thread; I posted both.

[McT]

Bad start to the season. Sharks should improve from this and come back nicely.

[Devill]

Bad start to the season. Sharks should improve from this and come back nicely.

+1, if the Sharks can play 60-80 minutes of the rugby they played in the last 10 minutes they should see a semi final.

[PhreeMe]

+1, if the Sharks can play 60-80 minutes of the rugby they played in the last 10 minutes they should see a semi final.

Yeah seeing some of those passes float behind/at the feet of the intended recipient really got to me... Our plan seemed solid, but execution let us down.

On the positive though, it seemed that some of the noobs/new signs played pretty well. I'm happy with out team also knowing we should have some decent injections when the injured come back.

[Devill]

Yeah seeing some of those passes float behind/at the feet of the intended recipient really got to me... Our plan seemed solid, but execution let us down.

On the positive though, it seemed that some of the noobs/new signs played pretty well. I'm happy with out team also knowing we should have some decent injections when the injured come back.

The fact that Alberts and Deysel will be coming in sooner rather than later will be a huge boost for the Sharks.

I think both the Bulls and the Sharks could be happy that the other team also had a bad day at the office or else the game could have ended in a 20 -30 point routing to either side :o

[McT]

The fact that Alberts and Deysel will be coming in sooner rather than later will be a huge boost for the Sharks.

I think both the Bulls and the Sharks could be happy that the other team also had a bad day at the office or else the game could have ended in a 20 -30 point routing to either side :o

Agreed. Neither team impressed.

[PhreeMe]

The fact that Alberts and Deysel will be coming in sooner rather than later will be a huge boost for the Sharks.

I think both the Bulls and the Sharks could be happy that the other team also had a bad day at the office or else the game could have ended in a 20 -30 point routing to either side :o


Agreed. Neither team impressed.

Agreed +1
I also think Beast add's a lot to our scrum (not that it wasn't solid already - but still) so yeah, we have a lot of talent coming back from injury.

I never really remember the beginning of each season, but I keep getting told the Sharks build up steam.... start badly and finish well.... so here's for a REAL quick buildup :D

[Devill]

Sharks Team for 03 March:

15. Riaan Viljoen , 14. Louis Ludik , 13. JP Pietersen , 12. Meyer Bosman , 11. Lwazi Mvovo , 10. Patrick Lambie , 9. Frederic Michalak , 8. Keegan Daniel (C) , 7. Marcell Coetzee , 6. Jacques Botes , 5. Ross Skeate , 4. Steven Sykes , 3. Wiehahn Herbst , 2. Bismarck du Plessis , 1. Dale Chadwick

Replacements , 16. Craig Burden , 17. Jannie du Plessis , 18. Anton Bresler , 19. Lubabalo Mtembu , 20. Charl McLeod , 21. Marius Joubert , 22. Paul Jordaan

[Mephisto_Helix]

That light loose trio is a worry, I won't lie ......... we'll have to adapt a very fast running game to keep from being out-muscled for sure.

[McT]

Not too many changes. Looking forward to players returning from injury.

[Devill]

Without Alberts you guys look a tad light in the ball carrier department with Alberts completely out.

[porchrat]

Sharks Team:

15. Riaan Viljoen , 14. Louis Ludik , 13. JP Pietersen , 12. Meyer Bosman , 11. Lwazi Mvovo , 10. Patrick Lambie , 9. Frederic Michalak , 8. Keegan Daniel (C) , 7. Marcell Coetzee , 6. Jacques Botes , 5. Ross Skeate , 4. Steven Sykes , 3. Wiehahn Herbst , 2. Bismarck du Plessis , 1. Dale Chadwick

Replacements , 16. Craig Burden , 17. Jannie du Plessis , 18. Anton Bresler , 19. Lubabalo Mtembu , 20. Charl McLeod , 21. Marius Joubert , 22. Paul Jordaan
Is this the team for this weekend?

Last weekend Michalak gave a very poor performance as scrummie. He was positively glacial. At one point 3 relatively slow rucks happened on the other end of the field before he arrived. Disgraceful. The minute he left the field the pace of the game changed. I'm disappointed to see him back in that number 9 jersey.

[Devill]

Is this the team for this weekend?

Last weekend Michalak gave a very poor performance as scrummie. He was positively glacial. At one point 3 relatively slow rucks happened on the other end of the field before he arrived. Disgraceful. The minute he left the field the pace of the game changed. I'm disappointed to see him back in that number 9 jersey.

Yes it is the team for the weekend (added a date to my post).

Did not know you watched rugby porch. Are you a sharks supporter?

BoT: Yes McLeod played a lot better than Freddy (even though I hate to admit it as I think McLeod is a waste of space). McLeod kept the Sharks back line on the front fot with quicker and cleaner delivery as well as a couple of darts himself.

[porchrat]

Yes it is the team for the weekend (added a date to my post).

Did not know you watched rugby porch. Are you a sharks supporter?
Man I am all about rugby. Super Rugby especially.

I was born in Natal and while I don't live there any longer I am still a Sharks supporter and I doubt that is ever going to change.



BoT: Yes McLeod played a lot better than Freddy (even though I hate to admit it as I think McLeod is a waste of space). McLeod kept the Sharks back line on the front fot with quicker and cleaner delivery as well as a couple of darts himself.
I think McLoed and Michalak are a case of making the best of a bad situation. The Sharks haven't had a decent scrummie for a while now.

I think Kockott had momentary flashes of brilliance but he was so hot-and-cold that I'm not surprised he is gone. When he was off man he ruined whole games.

[hungrybeaver]

If we can get a win this weekend, our confidence will be sky high before taking on the Lions and then heading overseas. I hope we get the basics right and use the talent we have accordingly.

[Pixual]

Bitchslap Doøsplesier is going to cost us the game. Again.

[Devill]

Bitchslap Doøsplesier is going to cost us the game. Again.

I wonder if someone in management has had a chat to him about that.

I agree with most things JJ brings up (although is imo a one eyed spectator)

http://www.sport24.co.za/Columnists/JJHarmse/Big-year-for-Bismarck-20120301

[Pixual]

Even if they did, I think it would go in one ear and come right back out the other.

If they absolutely have to play him, they should do it in a position where he can't screw up all that much. Like maybe flanker or even ballboy. Personally I think he is the most over-rated rugby player since Theo Van Rensburg and that Gavin Johnson dude... Most of the time he can't even find the jumpers at the line-out.

[Pixual]

Lambie not having a good start to the season. Seems very indecisive and unphysical on attack. I'll bet you he has a girlfriend calling the shots now.

[Mephisto_Helix]

What a bloody idiot is Herbst, geezuz, bugger off the field idiot.

[Mephisto_Helix]

And people thought we wouldn't miss Smit ......... Bischop can't even throw a lineout ball to save his balls

[Pixual]

That was just too painful to bear witness to. S.hit rugby all round. Of course Bitchslap continues to befuddle those of us with functional brains as to how he continues to be selected at the highest level.

Thinking about this clearly, it's my view that we have serious issues on the coaching side. There are no playmakers in key positions and apparently a total loss of imagination when it comes to playing on attack. Plumtree and Reece-Edwards need to skip this coaching lark now. They've been found out and found wanting in all departments.

[BobsLawnService]

Yep, unfortunately we have had abosolutely no plan to break down the opposition defence and our own defensive line looks ragged. I don't mind us losing, just not like that. Absolutely no idea with ball in hand. Things could have been much worse had the ref decided to blow us for all the times we went off our feet at the breakdown.

I'd love to know why the Sharks aren't playing Michelak at 10 and Lambie at 15.

[BobsLawnService]

One more thing. Opposition coaches seem to be analysing play in the first half, coming up with defensive and offensive plans and kicking our butts in the second.

[MickeyD]

Thinking back...

There is a problem with discipline - hands in ruck, sealing off the ball, entering the ruck/maul from the wrong side, playing the man without the ball, etc. - BASIC errors.

The starting front-row is weak and cannot provide a platform for the backrow/backs to manoeuvre in.

Aimless passing down the backline, hoping for the defensive line to miraculously break - not going to happen at this level, you need players to break the line.

Aimless kicking and not finding touch - teams no longer fear our lineout as our hooker cannot throw straight.

Buy a specialist scrumhalf!!! Get Ruan back at any price.... Michalak at 10 and Lambie at 15.

Buy a specialist centre pairing.... JP must go back to wing.

[McT]

Too many players out of their ideal position, too much indiscipline. It's starting to cost the team dearly in games lost.

[SinghDude]

Well if the Sharks don't beat the Lions next week @ home their season is farked.

[Ekstasis]

Can't believe we've beaten the Sharks by playing this bad. But hey, a win is a win I suppose.

[Pixual]

Stormers defended very well. Give them that credit.

But yes, there are some serious strategy issues with this Sharks team. I don't agree with all the aforementioned comments on players being out of position. I like JP at 13 - he's played pretty well there. Lambie at 10, hmmm... not so sure about that, but he has played well there before. We've seen that. The problem is that he's been shut down by the opposition because they have studied his game. It doesn't look like he has any variation.

Please dear God, don't ever let Ruan Pienaar back into the Sharks. If he comes back then that's it for my allegiances. ;)

[Devill]

I really feel for the Sharks not having Deysel and Alberts... but I am sure they will turn the tide in the next game.

[McT]

Next game is a must win to get title hopes back on track.

[zeb]

After the game, as a supporter of neither the Stormers or Sharks, I felt a draw would have been the fairest result.

Then while watching the highlights of the weekend's games on Allout Rugby last night, I noticed that the final penalty should not have been given and that a draw would have been the right result.
Stormers scrumhalf, Duvenhage, ran up to the ruck, put his foot on the sideline and touched the ball before Daniel committed his offence. The "assistant referee" was standing right there on the spot, probably thinking which Stormer signature he'd ask for first, and not doing his job.

[Deezil]

Then while watching the highlights of the weekend's games on Allout Rugby last night, I noticed that the final penalty should not have been given and that a draw would have been the right result.
Big Stormer supporter but I suppose you are correct ... both teams were pretty kuck! to be honest.

Sharks unlucky to have so many loosies out injured but that Marcell Coetzee dude is a freaking monster to look out for in the future. Lambie seems really lethargic but I suppose a big reason for it is the pathetic service he is receiving from Michalak ... I guess most calls for him to move to fullback with Michalak moving to fly-half will be answered pretty soon!

Or even move Lambie to centre with JP back to wing ... Ludik / Viljoen to play fullback and Mcleod starting

[Devill]

Big Stormer supporter but I suppose you are correct ... both teams were pretty kuck! to be honest.

Sharks unlucky to have so many loosies out injured but that Marcell Coetzee dude is a freaking monster to look out for in the future. Lambie seems really lethargic but I suppose a big reason for it is the pathetic service he is receiving from Michalak ... I guess most calls for him to move to fullback with Michalak moving to fly-half will be answered pretty soon!

Or even move Lambie to centre with JP back to wing ... Ludik / Viljoen to play fullback and Mcleod starting

I would bench Freddie. and start Mcleod.

[DJ...]

Please dear God, don't ever let Ruan Pienaar back into the Sharks. If he comes back then that's it for my allegiances. ;)

Is there anyone you would have in The Sharks team? :confused:

[Pixual]

Is there anyone you would have in The Sharks team? :confused:

Anyone but that prick. Sorry Ruan fans, but he is the ultimate moegoe in a #9 shirt.

Sharks should never have let go of Cockett. Macloud is another Pienaar/VDWesthuizen in the making, always throwing his fecking arms in the air trying to play the ref instead of the ball.

A player I think they should look at, who is highly under-rated, is Tevus De Bruin from the Free State. Very committed player that guy. I'll bet you his play would improve dramatically behind a strong pack. The Cheetahs were pathetic against the Bulls on the weekend.

[Devill]

Anyone but that prick. Sorry Ruan fans, but he is the ultimate moegoe in a #9 shirt.

Sharks should never have let go of Cockett. Macloud is another Pienaar/VDWesthuizen in the making, always throwing his fecking arms in the air trying to play the ref instead of the ball.

A player I think they should look at, who is highly under-rated, is Tevus De Bruin from the Free State. Very committed player that guy. I'll bet you his play would improve dramatically behind a strong pack. The Cheetahs were pathetic against the Bulls on the weekend.

I see Hougaard from the Bulls has also does that every now and again....

I really do not like it :mad:

[Pixual]

They learned it from the Kingpin moegoe, Joost.

Another player who is really pissing me off with his Maradona imitations is Bryan Habana. Nearly every game now he takes a dive. He did it again on Saturday and got a penalty for nothing. Somebody should just punch him in his vagina, because clearly he has no balls if that's how easy it is for him to fall down...

[McT]

I see Hougaard from the Bulls has also does that every now and again....

I really do not like it :mad:

Time the players focus on the ball and action and let ref sort out the infringements ;)

[Devill]

They learned it from the Kingpin moegoe, Joost.

Another player who is really pissing me off with his Maradona imitations is Bryan Habana. Nearly every game now he takes a dive. He did it again on Saturday and got a penalty for nothing. Somebody should just punch him in his vagina, because clearly he has no balls if that's how easy it is for him to fall down...

I have also seen Habana's soccer diving stints.


Time the players focus on the ball and action and let ref sort out the infringements

+1000000000^10000000, the ref is going to call the game as he sees it.

[undesign]

Attention Sharks supporters: will you beat the Lions on Saturday? Or should I take a flyer on the Lions for Superbru?

[hungrybeaver]

Attention Sharks supporters: will you beat the Lions on Saturday? Or should I take a flyer on the Lions for Superbru?

Yes.

Well, we better. I'm sure they won't want another loss and will throw a lot at the Lions. Seriously if we lose this game, attendance at Kings Park will be an all time low for the rest of the Super season.

[undesign]

Yes.

Well, we better. I'm sure they won't want another loss and will throw a lot at the Lions. Seriously if we lose this game, attendance at Kings Park will be an all time low for the rest of the Super season.

OK, I'll bite. Please don't disappoint. :D

[hungrybeaver]

OK, I'll bite. Please don't disappoint. :D

haha I've lost out on Superbru points these last 2 weeks by picking the Sharks. I feel dirty if I choose the opposition to win :p
I'm picking Sharks again but I cannot promise anything :)

[BobsLawnService]

Attention Sharks supporters: will you beat the Lions on Saturday? Or should I take a flyer on the Lions for Superbru?

Go for the Lions by 6.

The Sharks attack really is that bad.

[DJ...]

Go for the Lions by 6.

The Sharks attack really is that bad.

Oh go mow a pitch ffs...:p

[Pixual]

Mitchell vs Plumtree again.

After the CC final last year, Sharks have got some points to prove. I don't expect it will be an easy game for them and to be honest, it will surprise me if they put the Lions to the sword. The discipline will be a key factor with Jantjies' kicking, so if Plumtree has any smarts he won't be picking B.Du Plessis in the starting lineup.

Let's see what happens.

[McT]

Sharks must win this :cry: :D

[Devill]

My head says sharks, as they will have the backs to the walls and they are playing at home... but i think I will wait till tonight to make my SB pick.

[McT]

Definitely Sharks ;)

[Abe]

Definitely Sharks ;)

I am just wondering how much the refs cost them. Must have been a tidy packet to be so biased.

[FoXtroT]

?

[McT]

I am just wondering how much the refs cost them. Must have been a tidy packet to be so biased.

Wrong thread. :confused:

I'm guessing you meant to post this in the Cheetahs thread ;)

[DJ...]

Wrong thread. :confused:

I'm guessing you meant to post this in the Cheetahs thread ;)

Could only have been intended for the non-existent Cheetahs thread. That was an absolutely piss-poor performance by the Bryce-wannabe. I only caught the first half of the Sharks game though - looked pretty okay to me.

Also, we won. So the ref must have been on song...:D

[Abe]

Wrong thread. :confused:

I'm guessing you meant to post this in the Cheetahs thread ;)

No, definitely meant the Sharks - Lions game.

The first Sharks try came off a Sharks hand forward from the up and under, their try at the end of the first half also came forward off a sharks hand at the lineout and Mvovo's foot was out in the corner before he scored. What about Butch's "forward" pass. There were a lot of dubious decisions in the game.

[McT]

I watched the game with a die-hard, outspoken Lions' supporter and he didn't choice any of your 'concerns'. I thought the game was fairly well reffed.

If there is a game to comment on about biased decisions, the Cheetahs game would be the one ;)

[Mephisto_Helix]

Yeah I heard nothing from 2 serious Sharks haters about any sketchy reffing? I'll see if I can watch it again somehow and try spot these 'biased' calls ;)

[hungrybeaver]

There was really a lack of cameras for the try line decisions. I mean they only had 2 angles to work with. One would think there'd be 3 or 4. Mvovs one was a bit touch and go, I thought it was a try. The Lions try needed another angle. Sykes held the ball up when the Lions player went to touch it down.

Oh well.. next week we'll have to perform even better against the Reds.

[HiToKiRi]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Plumtree has overstayed his welcome? It concerns me that Plumtree cannot do more with the players he has at his disposal. On paper the Sharks should be able to crush just about any other team imo.

[DJ...]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Plumtree has overstayed his welcome? It concerns me that Plumtree cannot do more with the players he has at his disposal. On paper the Sharks should be able to crush just about any other team imo.

If I look back on our losses, I cannot attribute them to poor tactics, players in the wrong positions or poor team cohesion. I attribute them mostly to simple mistakes made by individuals. I've got no problems with Plumtree.

I'd love to see Grant Bashford given the reigns at some point but I'm a little biased towards Bashy...

[GreGorGy]

Yeah I heard nothing from 2 serious Sharks haters about any sketchy reffing? I'll see if I can watch it again somehow and try spot these 'biased' calls ;)

Well, I was at RAMFEST and did not watch the games - rather got the highlights so no comment :)

And you know I would've commented!

[BobsLawnService]

If I look back on our losses, I cannot attribute them to poor tactics, players in the wrong positions or poor team cohesion. I attribute them mostly to simple mistakes made by individuals. I've got no problems with Plumtree.

I'd love to see Grant Bashford given the reigns at some point but I'm a little biased towards Bashy...

The Sharks have been looking very unimaginative and uninspired on attack this season. Even the tries against the Lions were thanks to the Lions scrappy play. Better teams aren't going to gift tries like that (See our games against the Bulls and Stormers for evidence of this.)

Both the Stormers and Bulls also came up with very effective plans to open up the Sharks defence at half time. They put us under pressure and we did not do well.

[Pixual]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Plumtree has overstayed his welcome? It concerns me that Plumtree cannot do more with the players he has at his disposal. On paper the Sharks should be able to crush just about any other team imo.

Nope. I agree with that sentiment, to a degree. The forwards (with the exception of B.Du Plessis) are playing fine, it's the backs, who are under Hugh Reece-Edwards' control who seem to have absolutely no friggin idea what to do with the ball when they get it.

In all three games so far there has been a total lack of aggression in the backs. They aren't carrying the ball up with meaning and it's almost like they look to offload it as soon as they get it. In addition, they seem to be giving the opposition a lot of time with the ball in hand before they make any kind of hit. They aren't closing down the space fast enough and against the NZ teams that is going to be suicidal.

It's not like they don't have the players. They just don't seem to have the vision.

[Abe]

There was really a lack of cameras for the try line decisions. I mean they only had 2 angles to work with. One would think there'd be 3 or 4. Mvovs one was a bit touch and go, I thought it was a try. The Lions try needed another angle. Sykes held the ball up when the Lions player went to touch it down.

The problem is that there was one angle (although the camera was a little bit further out) that showed his foot in touch. It looks like John Mitchell has even lodged a formal complaint about it and the assistant referees in general. I can understand the ref getting the first try wrong because it was at game pace and there were a lot of arms in the air but there is no way that the assistant referee should have messed up the Mvovo try. Those sort of things have a huge impact on the outcome of the game. The joke of a forward pass from Butch James also could have had a massive impact because it put the Sharks on attack right in the Lions 22. I can't remember if anything happened from that.

[Abe]

Yeah I heard nothing from 2 serious Sharks haters about any sketchy reffing? I'll see if I can watch it again somehow and try spot these 'biased' calls ;)

It's probably because of how I watched it. I had the PVR paused so I caught up a the game after it finished and had the luxury of pausing and looking at things again.

[McT]

Nope. I agree with that sentiment, to a degree. The forwards (with the exception of B.Du Plessis) are playing fine, it's the backs, who are under Hugh Reece-Edwards' control who seem to have absolutely no friggin idea what to do with the ball when they get it.

In all three games so far there has been a total lack of aggression in the backs. They aren't carrying the ball up with meaning and it's almost like they look to offload it as soon as they get it. In addition, they seem to be giving the opposition a lot of time with the ball in hand before they make any kind of hit. They aren't closing down the space fast enough and against the NZ teams that is going to be suicidal.

It's not like they don't have the players. They just don't seem to have the vision.

Been watching Bismark and do agree he needs stern coaching on the laws relating to the ruck and maul. Could save us a few points.


It's probably because of how I watched it...

Aha! So you watched it with one eye closed! :D

[Abe]

Been watching Bismark and do agree he needs stern coaching on the laws relating to the ruck and maul. Could save us a few points.

He seems to have also gotten very aggro of late. He is such a good player and it's not necessary. It's almost like he feels that he has to prove himself because he wasn't first choice in the World Cup (which he should have been).


Aha! So you watched it with one eye closed! :D

Is there any other way ;)

[McT]

Is there any other way ;)

Does a loyal supporter ever not? :D

[Pixual]

He seems to have also gotten very aggro of late. He is such a good player and it's not necessary. It's almost like he feels that he has to prove himself because he wasn't first choice in the World Cup (which he should have been).


No ways, dude. He is nowhere near being the best hooker in this country, imo. The lineout lost stats when he is on the field will back me up on that. Personally I'd choose Tiaan Liebenburg over him any day.

[PhreeMe]

No ways, dude. He is nowhere near being the best hooker in this country, imo. The lineout lost stats when he is on the field will back me up on that. Personally I'd choose Tiaan Liebenburg over him any day.

I still say he is the best hooker in SA. While part of the hooker's job is obvious (throwing a good lineout ball) having your team actually jump for the ball would also help. There seems to be confusion in the Shark's lineout calls....

As a hooker in the scrum and overall ability on the field, there is not another hooker in our country that is as effective as he is on the field. Call it fanboi'ism, but while he may give penalties away, look at how many turnovers he affects....

[Devill]

I still say he is the best hooker in SA. While part of the hooker's job is obvious (throwing a good lineout ball) having your team actually jump for the ball would also help. There seems to be confusion in the Shark's lineout calls....

As a hooker in the scrum and overall ability on the field, there is not another hooker in our country that is as effective as he is on the field. Call it fanboi'ism, but while he may give penalties away, look at how many turnovers he affects....

Bismarck can be awesome when his head is on right on the day. He needs to learn to channel the "anger" and realise that he is now a senior player that has to start showing some class.

He should focus on his throw in at the line out as this is killing him atm. I really hope that he sorts himself out as at the moment I feel that he is not 65% of the player he could be.

[DJ...]

I still say he is the best hooker in SA. While part of the hooker's job is obvious (throwing a good lineout ball) having your team actually jump for the ball would also help. There seems to be confusion in the Shark's lineout calls....

As a hooker in the scrum and overall ability on the field, there is not another hooker in our country that is as effective as he is on the field. Call it fanboi'ism, but while he may give penalties away, look at how many turnovers he affects....

I don't believe it is a problem with the jumpers. I believe the calling is off, particularly from Keegan Daniel, who I rate as a player but not as a captain...

[McT]

I don't believe it is a problem with the jumpers. I believe the calling is off, particularly from Keegan Daniel, who I rate as a player but not as a captain...

Who would give captaincy to then? What about Botes?

[undesign]

Please help a brother out, I need to increase my Superbru winning % and margin points. Are the Sharks going to lose by -

A) 0 - 5 points
B) 6 - 10 points
C) more than 10?

Thanks!

[Devill]

Please help a brother out, I need to increase my Superbru winning % and margin points. Are the Sharks going to lose by -

A) 0 - 5 points
B) 6 - 10 points
C) more than 10?

Thanks!

Haha :D

I think I am actually going for a Sharks win with 6.

[PhreeMe]

Bismarck can be awesome when his head is on right on the day. He needs to learn to channel the "anger" and realise that he is now a senior player that has to start showing some class.

He should focus on his throw in at the line out as this is killing him atm. I really hope that he sorts himself out as at the moment I feel that he is not 65% of the player he could be.

I can concede to some of that :D
He has had noticably different performances in the matches thus far. To me he started showing his 'old' self again in the Lions match. I do agree his performance was somewhat jaded in the first 2 games.


I don't believe it is a problem with the jumpers. I believe the calling is off, particularly from Keegan Daniel, who I rate as a player but not as a captain...

Agree'd and my apologies. I didn't intend the blame to be placed on the jumpers.... my intention was to say what you just said :D
There is definite confusion between the call and what transpires thereafter and would agree that the call may be the problem.

I REALLY agree on the captaincy/player bit. That guy punches way above his weight for his position. Honestly, I would've given the captaincy to Sykes or Botes.

[undesign]

Haha :D

I think I am actually going for a Sharks win with 6.

Don't start with your conniving tendencies. :-)

Difficult game to call this one.

[Mephisto_Helix]

There is a general Super15 thread, please don't troll the supporter thread with your idiocy, kthx

[McT]

Please help a brother out, I need to increase my Superbru winning % and margin points. Are the Sharks going to lose by -

A) 0 - 5 points
B) 6 - 10 points
C) more than 10?

Thanks!

D) Sharks win by 3 - 5 ... now go troll elsewhere! :mad:

[undesign]

There is a general Super15 thread, please don't troll the supporter thread with your idiocy, kthx

Sharks thread, question about Sharks...

Don't you have something better to do...like listening to your homemade Whitney Houston CD? :-)

[McT]

Sharks thread, question about Sharks...

Don't you have something better to do...like listening to your homemade Whitney Houston CD? :-)

Troll!

[undesign]

Troll!

/sigh

Ok, geriatrics ward...let my rephrase my poorly received attempt at humour and ask the question behind the question. And bear in mind that I support the Sharks when playing international opponents, and have even on one occasion worn a Shark jersey and beanie (which was later peed on by a Bulls supporter, long story), even though I think they are one of the constantly overrated ( or at least underperforming) teams in Super rugby. :-)

So, assuming the Reds don't play like total ****s, who do reckon will win on Saturday?

[Devill]

/sigh

Ok, geriatrics ward...let my rephrase my poorly received attempt at humour and ask the question behind the question. And bear in mind that I support the Sharks when playing international opponents, and have even on one occasion worn a Shark jersey and beanie (which was later peed on by a Bulls supporter, long story), even though I think they are one of the constantly overrated ( or at least underperforming) teams in Super rugby. :-)

So, assuming the Reds don't play like total ****s, who do reckon will win on Saturday?

If the Sharks perform at 80% and they Lambie is slotting them over from all over again then I will back the Sharks by less than 7.
If the Sharks play like they did vs the bulls and/or play at anything below 80% then I will back the reds by less than 7.

[McT]

If the Sharks perform at 80% and they Lambie is slotting them over from all over again then I will back the Sharks by less than 7.
If the Sharks play like they did vs the bulls and/or play at anything below 80% then I will back the reds by less than 7.

Agree with this. I picked Sharks to win by 3.

[undesign]

If the Sharks perform at 80% and they Lambie is slotting them over from all over again then I will back the Sharks by less than 7.
If the Sharks play like they did vs the bulls and/or play at anything below 80% then I will back the reds by less than 7.

I think you have it spot on. Thanks.

[SinghDude]

Reds captain James Horwill , came out in the media stating that despite 3wins the Reds are yet to find their best form. :erm:


Sharks need to get their season on track with another win.




/OT whats up with the fusckin pathetic refereeing being dished out to South African teams ?

[Devill]

Agree with this. I picked Sharks to win by 3.

Think I will go a tad more, as the rebels did not look great last week and the long flight could not have helped.

[DJ...]

I've picked The Sharks to win by 10. I have my reasons...:D

[FoXtroT]

I wonder why they have dropped Paul Jordaan out of the 22, he really seemed to make the backline spark when he came on.

[Pixual]

B. du Plessis has had more than enough time and opportunity to prove himself as a player. I believe he costs us more than he makes in terms of his turnovers. He should rather play for the Balls, I mean Bulls.

As for captaincy of the side? No one stands out and that perhaps is one of the biggest problems in the squad.

[Devill]

I wonder why they have dropped Paul Jordaan out of the 22, he really seemed to make the backline spark when he came on.

Not to offend anyone but the Sharks do do some strange things sometimes.


B. du Plessis has had more than enough time and opportunity to prove himself as a player. I believe he costs us more than he makes in terms of his turnovers. He should rather play for the Balls, I mean Bulls.

As for captaincy of the side? No one stands out and that perhaps is one of the biggest problems in the squad.

+1. The captaincy of a team is a very under rated aspect imho. I am just happy that the spies seems to be working as captain for the Bulls.

[DJ...]

Not to offend anyone but the Sharks do do some strange things sometimes.

You're right. I once watched The Sharks play like the Bulls. That was a weird loss that day...

[Devill]

You're right. I once watched The Sharks play like the Bulls. That was a weird loss that day...

Was that the opener this year, or was it the the 2007 final?

[PhreeMe]

Not to offend anyone but the Sharks do do some strange things sometimes.

If the Sharks were consistent, they would be one of the toughest teams to beat... Sadly though, they blow hot and cold and it's very visible in each performance. That's why the Bulls, and now Stormers, do well... consistency.


Was that the opener this year, or was it the the 2007 final?

Tssssssssssssssss!

Such bad memories brought to bare :D

[Mephisto_Helix]

A lot of 'big names' that seriously need to up their game or fsck off from the Sharks. Bismarck being enemy number one ...... can't throw a lineout ball anymore and plays stupid. His brother is just a lazy scrummager now, gives nothing to the game. And some of these new players just seem to be totally dumb and clueless about the rules/game, like seriously doing atrociously dumb stuff as if they don't know any better.

[Mephisto_Helix]

:wtf: That pass leading to the try went like 4 feet forward, wtf!

[ABCpt]

All the forwards seem to be afraid of contact. Hope the second half is better.

[MickeyD]

What gets me is that we do not attack the ruck/maul/tackle situation. Sometimes there is a single Reds' player over the ball yet we all back off to form a defensive line. Two ro three guys should bind together and ruck over the ball....

[Mephisto_Helix]

And I don't rate this chop[ prop Chadwick at all, he can't scrum for shyte and he's a lazy player too

[sand_man]

lol, well done to the Sharks, excellent victory considering the 17-0 scoreline at 30 minutes. They found an extra gear, added some of the typical, hard abrasive forward play that only South African and New Zealand players can dish up and the Reds wilted under the pressure. Injuries to key players in the Reds back line inevitably took its toll. An indication once again that to advance in this competition you need depth and lots of it.

Marcel Coetzee was my man of the match followed by McLeod. Solid performance from the 2 of them.

[RedWill]

Nice come back from the Sharks to get the win, after finally waking up after 30mins. Just wished they showed more hunger in going for the bonus point try; for a while they seemed too defensive before breaking out in the last 10mins. More of a killer instinct needed if they really want to be serious contenders in this competition.

[Pixual]

Gotta say, how the hell do the idiots in the commentary box continue to give B. Duplessis man of the match awards when it's painfully obvious to anybody with a passing smidgen of intelligence that having him in a team costs us at least 10 points in every game (as was the case tonight)? The world is mad.

I also thought that McCloed played the best I have ever seen him play. His service was quick and accurate and only towards the end did he start flapping his arms like some kind of hopeful ostrich.

Kaplan? Seriously? That dude is losing it with every game he takes charge of. How he didn't see that forward pass leading to the Reds one try is just not good enough at this level. Chop.

Not a good start to the game by the Sharks, but a very good comeback and of course excellent result.

[Abe]

Kaplan? Seriously? That dude is losing it with every game he takes charge of. How he didn't see that forward pass leading to the Reds one try is just not good enough at this level. Chop.

He didn't have a great game. He actually kept the Reds guy in the bin for over 12 minutes.

[MickeyD]

He didn't have a great game. He actually kept the Reds guy in the bin for over 12 minutes.
Not defending his performance, but that's the job of the fourth match official and not Kaplan. They also have to wait for a break in play before the person sin-binned may return.

[ToxicBunny]

I was not impressed with Kaplan but he was not atrocious, he just made some dodgy calls.

I want to know why the Sharks line is always so deep nowadays, they lose so much ground when passing the ball across the field, and it costs them scoring opportunities.

[ponder]

Was a nice game to watch imho.

[McT]

I was not impressed with Kaplan but he was not atrocious, he just made some dodgy calls.

I want to know why the Sharks line is always so deep nowadays, they lose so much ground when passing the ball across the field, and it costs them scoring opportunities.

Agree with your call on the line out.


Was a nice game to watch imho.

Even better that we won :D

[Pixual]

I want to know why the Sharks line is always so deep nowadays, they lose so much ground when passing the ball across the field, and it costs them scoring opportunities.

Hugh Reece-Edwards. He's still living in 1989.

We have got big problems in our backs. I think we need to put Burden back in there, because it's ovious he's never going to be the choice hooker again.

[DJ...]

A lot of 'big names' that seriously need to up their game or fsck off from the Sharks. Bismarck being enemy number one ...... can't throw a lineout ball anymore and plays stupid. His brother is just a lazy scrummager now, gives nothing to the game. And some of these new players just seem to be totally dumb and clueless about the rules/game, like seriously doing atrociously dumb stuff as if they don't know any better.

The lineout issues are certainly not due to Bissy's throwing alone. The jumping and the calling has been horrendous of late. From what I watched, Bissy's throwing was okay (not spectacular) but the jumpers are really the ones cocking up and I have to place a large amount of the blame squarely on Keegan Daniels' shoulders...


I was not impressed with Kaplan but he was not atrocious, he just made some dodgy calls.

I want to know why the Sharks line is always so deep nowadays, they lose so much ground when passing the ball across the field, and it costs them scoring opportunities.

They're trying to open up gaps in the defence and create alternate running lines...


Agree with your call on the line out.

I'm quite sure he's talking about our backline. Not sure where we've been too deep with the lineout, unless you're talking about the calls to throw beyond the back? In which case that has nothing to do with the hooker (to those giving Bissy schit).

I personally think the guy is awesome, but he could do with sorting out his discipline...

[MickeyD]

Also take into account that there was a "light" breeze!

[Devill]

Tssssssssssssssss!

Such bad memories brought to bare :D

DJ made me do it :p

Great come back from the sharks after looking like they forgot how to play rugby in the first 30 odd mins.

Daniels is a flanker and I hope the sharks realise this sooner rather than later.

Lambie had a good game and McLeod proved me wrong as he showed that he actually has vision and he is able to run not just feed the back line and kick.

As for Bismarck, he needs to improve or else I think hy might be replaced by Adriaan Strauss in the Springbok setup.

Congrats to the sharks and I hope you can carry some momentum int the overseas games.

[DJ...]

Once Kankowski's finger heals up (hopefully this week - he is travelling afaik) Daniels will revert back to flanker, I'm sure. I also hope he is stripped of the captaincy role. He is a great player but not the great leader that we need...

[Devill]

Once Kankowski's finger heals up (hopefully this week - he is travelling afaik) Daniels will revert back to flanker, I'm sure. I also hope he is stripped of the captaincy role. He is a great player but not the great leader that we need...

I also do not see him as a captain, but the problem is to whom would you give the captaincy?

[DJ...]

I also do not see him as a captain, but the problem is to whom would you give the captaincy?

Kankowski was my first choice to be honest. He's a smart rugby player, very experienced at all levels of the game and is very vocal and level-headed. He'd make a very good captain...

[Devill]

Kankowski was my first choice to be honest. He's a smart rugby player, very experienced at all levels of the game and is very vocal and level-headed. He'd make a very good captain...

Never really thought of him in that role.
Must agree out of all the players in the sharks setup he is one of the most senior and he is very level headed. Good call.

[DJ...]

Just in:


Good news for The Sharks. Steven Sykes, who missed the flight yesterday due to an injury he sustained in Saturday’s game against the Reds, has been cleared by a specialist and is going to fly out to Sydney today.

[McT]

Great news that :)

[Devill]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Smit-lines-up-stars-for-farewell-20120318


Cape Town - A world team loaded with several Springboks will line up against the Sharks later this year for John Smit's farewell match.

According to Beeld, some big-name players that played with the former Bok captain have already been approached for the match at Kings Park on 22 June.

Smit and former Sharks coach Ian McIntosh will coach the team, which will be known as Barney's Army - derived from Smit's nickname Barney.

The players that have already made themselves available for the team are: Springboks Johann Muller, BJ Botha, Ruan Pienaar, Percy Montgomery, Victor Matfield, the ex-Wallaby-flank Phil Waugh, as well as two All Blacks, Luke McAllister and Doug Howlett.

This culd be a lot of fun :)

[jxharding]

not a sharks fan, but WELL DONE on beating the Reds!!!

[PhreeMe]

A lot of 'big names' that seriously need to up their game or fsck off from the Sharks. Bismarck being enemy number one ...... can't throw a lineout ball anymore and plays stupid.


Gotta say, how the hell do the idiots in the commentary box continue to give B. Duplessis man of the match awards when it's painfully obvious to anybody with a passing smidgen of intelligence that having him in a team costs us at least 10 points in every game (as was the case tonight)? The world is mad.

I really don't see why so much 'hate' is being thrown his way.... unless it's because more is expected from him than any other hooker in our country?

With all due respect guys, he may give some penalties away (yes some really stupid ones) but for the large part HE influences as many steals as some recognised 'fetchers'. As such he is playing on the thin line of the law....

Anyhoo, I again agree with DJ/Devill regarding Daniel as a player, not captain. My vote would still be with Botes/Sykes.

On the game, I really wish the Sharks would play a consistent 80 mins of Rugby. After the Red's second try, I was seriously considering not watching the rest of what I though was going to be a drumming! Fortunately the fanboi in me made me watch on :D I really hope wins like this stick in their minds as I feel you can 'see' the disheartened look in our team when they fall behind....

[Pixual]

I just don't think that Bismarck is as good as people give him credit for. So he steals a few balls in the loose. Big deal. They're only worth something when your team actually make them count and right now they aren't exactly inspiring confidence with their back line play, so I think the penalties he gives away outweigh the balls he steals by a considerable points margin.

I haven't seen it from him so often this year, but last year he also turned over a LOT of ball when going into the contact situation. He would go in very high and try to use his strength to run though the tacklers, invariably falling in such a way that the ball could not be won back by the supporting players. Quite often he would give away a penalty for holding on.

Yes, I've had my eye on how he plays for a while and to be blunt, he doesn't impress me at all. I actually find it amazing that so few other people see these flaws of his.

[DJ...]

I just don't think that Bismarck is as good as people give him credit for. So he steals a few balls in the loose. Big deal. They're only worth something when your team actually make them count and right now they aren't exactly inspiring confidence with their back line play, so I think the penalties he gives away outweigh the balls he steals by a considerable points margin.

So you vilify him because he steals balls and the backline cannot convert them into points? Seems fair, definitely...


I haven't seen it from him so often this year, but last year he also turned over a LOT of ball when going into the contact situation. He would go in very high and try to use his strength to run though the tacklers, invariably falling in such a way that the ball could not be won back by the supporting players. Quite often he would give away a penalty for holding on.

In this day and age that is the support play being the problem or one choosing to run into an area with no support. Bissy's role is to run into the defence but the laws require you to place the ball immediately after a tackle, so if there is no support play, the only option is to give away a penalty if you're in a dire position. Luckily though, as you point out, he hasn't been guilty of that of late. In fact he is one of the best ball carriers this country has ever produced...


Yes, I've had my eye on how he plays for a while and to be blunt, he doesn't impress me at all. I actually find it amazing that so few other people see these flaws of his.

Maybe its not a coincidence that you're the only one? Just saying...

[Devill]

So you vilify him because he steals balls and the backline cannot convert them into points? Seems fair, definitely...


No, well done to him BUT you need a team strategy. Well done Bissie you stole 6 balls that we know we might score once off but you gave away 4 penalties, two which were kickable and 2 that cost us a combined 45m advantage.

He is good enough to realise that he will either need to play it safer or he must learn to at least hold back on the 50/50 calls when the sharks are in their own 1/4...



In this day and age that is the support play being the problem or one choosing to run into an area with no support. Bissy's role is to run into the defence but the laws require you to place the ball immediately after a tackle, so if there is no support play, the only option is to give away a penalty if you're in a dire position. Luckily though, as you point out, he hasn't been guilty of that of late. In fact he is one of the best ball carriers this country has ever produced...


I agree with you and I have felt that the sharks do not use him well / often enough on attack.

Give him a bit more room and have him hit the line at speed.



Maybe its not a coincidence that you're the only one? Just saying...

Well at the moment Bismarck has not done enough to start for the Boks imo.

[DJ...]

Wow. Last year the guy played out of his skin. He's played three games for The Sharks and all of a sudden he's no longer Bok material? Really now?

[Pixual]

So you vilify him because he steals balls and the backline cannot convert them into points? Seems fair, definitely...

In this day and age that is the support play being the problem or one choosing to run into an area with no support. Bissy's role is to run into the defence but the laws require you to place the ball immediately after a tackle, so if there is no support play, the only option is to give away a penalty if you're in a dire position. Luckily though, as you point out, he hasn't been guilty of that of late. In fact he is one of the best ball carriers this country has ever produced...

Maybe its not a coincidence that you're the only one? Just saying...

You're not reading what I wrote very well.

"One of the best ball carriers this country has ever produced"? Seriously? Are you on crack? Even Odwa Ndungane carries more ball than he does (and gives away far fewer penalties).

[Randhir]

I think it's the combination of the two. He's a fantastic player who needs to learn more discipline.

[Pixual]

Wow. Last year the guy played out of his skin. He's played three games for The Sharks and all of a sudden he's no longer Bok material? Really now?

In those 3 games he PERSONALLY gave away 6-10 points per game. Check out the score differences in the first 2 games we lost and then tell me how wonderful he is and how much we need him.

[DJ...]

You're not reading what I wrote very well.

"One of the best ball carriers this country has ever produced"? Seriously? Are you on crack? Even Odwa Ndungane carries more ball than he does (and gives away far fewer penalties).

Me, SARU, international players who last year said that he was the most feared man on the bok team, coaches, his team-mates who constantly praise him, most of the country's rugby viewers, commentators, ex-players and sports writers. Yip, we're all on crack...

[DJ...]

tell me how wonderful he is and how much we need him.

He's awesome.
We're lucky to have him playing for us...

[Devill]

Wow. Last year the guy played out of his skin. He's played three games for The Sharks and all of a sudden he's no longer Bok material? Really now?

Now, now mr DJ go back and read what I said. "At the moment he is not good enough to start for the boks".

Hope that cleared up the confusion :)

[ToxicBunny]

They're trying to open up gaps in the defence and create alternate running lines...



Fair enough, it just doesn't seem to be working for us very well atm thats all.


I'm quite sure he's talking about our backline. Not sure where we've been too deep with the lineout, unless you're talking about the calls to throw beyond the back? In which case that has nothing to do with the hooker (to those giving Bissy schit).

I personally think the guy is awesome, but he could do with sorting out his discipline...

Def talking about the backline and not the lineouts, although we could do a bit of work on that area.

[DJ...]

I still don't see why not. He's not giving away any more penalties than he has throughout his entire career and the lineout issues have been (imo) a problem with the calling and the jumpers. If anything he has a far cooler head in the heat of things if you ask me...

[DJ...]

Fair enough, it just doesn't seem to be working for us very well atm thats all.

I think the problem has been that our wingers were not getting enough ball and so our backline played a very rushed game. I like the deeper, more attacking game-plan. The last thing you want is a team of runners all standing flat-footed. I also like that JP is playing at centre. I think he will evolve into a great centre but he needs to learn the intricacies of the position. Right now he's trying to play as a third winger in the centre of the field whereas he needs to be creating more play. He's got to change his mindset away from being a permanent finisher to a playmaker/finisher. It's a big risk but I think he's got a good enough set of rugby shoulders on him to get it right...

[Pixual]

I think the problem has been that our wingers were not getting enough ball and so our backline played a very rushed game. I like the deeper, more attacking game-plan. The last thing you want is a team of runners all standing flat-footed. I also like that JP is playing at centre. I think he will evolve into a great centre but he needs to learn the intricacies of the position. Right now he's trying to play as a third winger in the centre of the field whereas he needs to be creating more play. He's got to change his mindset away from being a permanent finisher to a playmaker/finisher. It's a big risk but I think he's got a good enough set of rugby shoulders on him to get it right...

Dude, if you don't think that the try he made in the game against the Lions was play-making at its very best then I think we're watching different sports here.

[Pixual]

Me, SARU, international players who last year said that he was the most feared man on the bok team, coaches, his team-mates who constantly praise him, most of the country's rugby viewers, commentators, ex-players and sports writers. Yip, we're all on crack...

Well not everybody can belong to MENSA... ;)

[Devill]

I still don't see why not. He's not giving away any more penalties than he has throughout his entire career and the lineout issues have been (imo) a problem with the calling and the jumpers. If anything he has a far cooler head in the heat of things if you ask me...

Struass > Bismarck, at the moment.

As far as I can see Struass is doing the same thing as Bismarck just he is a better line out "thrower" and he concedes less penalties. He might not be as effective a "3rd" flanker as Bissie but hookers should do what hooker should do before they take on the role of a flanker :p:D (Yes, yes I know there is a dirty joke in there just waiting to be spoken :D)

[PhreeMe]

Struass > Bismarck, at the moment.

As far as I can see Struass is doing the same thing as Bismarck just he is a better line out "thrower" and he concedes less penalties. He might not be as effective a "3rd" flanker as Bissie but hookers should do what hooker should do before they take on the role of a flanker :p:D (Yes, yes I know there is a dirty joke in there just waiting to be spoken :D)

I think we'll be debating this round and round, as we cleary do see Biz differently. What I will say is this... He is penalised for trying to turn the ball over. Normally that would be a Flankers position where he would give away penalties instead, but in this case it just so happens that Biz is the guy doing the 'fetching'. Yes our lineouts are not what they should be, however they are improving. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but (lets assume he knows the calls) the only thing he could do wrong in a lineout would be to throw the ball in skew, or have 2 motions? <- I'm seriously asking you to tell me. What happens next is not his fault.

Devill/Pixual, I understand the concern over the penalties. The first 2 games were tight, but in all fairness, could've been won/lost by a much greater margin. It's just the opportunities converted vs those lost. All that being said, it really seems like he is being bashed for being more than the A class hooker he is. Would I want a guy like Strauss who just bashes the ball up and does little else? Nope.... but again, this is prob why we'll disagree :)

[Devill]

I think we'll be debating this round and round, as we cleary do see Biz differently. What I will say is this... He is penalised for trying to turn the ball over. Normally that would be a Flankers position where he would give away penalties instead, but in this case it just so happens that Biz is the guy doing the 'fetching'. Yes our lineouts are not what they should be, however they are improving. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but (lets assume he knows the calls) the only thing he could do wrong in a lineout would be to throw the ball in skew, or have 2 motions? <- I'm seriously asking you to tell me. What happens next is not his fault.

He could also "over throw" or "under throw". A hooker needs to find his jumpers not the other way around.



Devill/Pixual, I understand the concern over the penalties. The first 2 games were tight, but in all fairness, could've been won/lost by a much greater margin. It's just the opportunities converted vs those lost. All that being said, it really seems like he is being bashed for being more than the A class hooker he is. Would I want a guy like Strauss who just bashes the ball up and does little else? Nope.... but again, this is prob why we'll disagree :)

IIRC Bismarck has been penalised more than the individual flankers? (I could be wrong).
I would actually like to see the stats, the flankers vs Bismarck: Turnovers, penalties against, first / second at the breakdown.

If it is the case that he is receiving more penalties against him and handeling "the same work load" as the two flankers should he then not perhaps adjust his game?

[sand_man]

Biz has been awesome so far this season.

He is doing what Broussow and any good flank does, steal ball at the breakdown. May not be his job but it's an extra dimension of his game most hookers would kill for. Sure he gets penalized on occasion but so do the rest, refs interpretation on the day and in the moment.

The fact that he gets penalized more than most is a credit to him being in a position to make the turnover in the first place.

Defensively he is solid and and in the tight loose he is effective, scrummaging is sound too. Lineouts need to be fixed but the blame must be shared equally between hooker and locks.

Didn't he get MoM on Saturday?

The man is a rock, respect, I'm not his biggest fan, he sometimes appears lead footed to me but he has been destructive so far this season. Turnover ball is gold, GOLD!!!

[Albereth]

Struass > Bismarck, at the moment.

As far as I can see Struass is doing the same thing as Bismarck just he is a better line out "thrower" and he concedes less penalties. He might not be as effective a "3rd" flanker as Bissie but hookers should do what hooker should do before they take on the role of a flanker :p:D (Yes, yes I know there is a dirty joke in there just waiting to be spoken :D)

Strauss? The Cheetahs' hooker?

He is crap. All he does is whine while Bismarck just gets on and dominates the game.

[Devill]

Strauss? The Cheetahs' hooker?

He is crap. All he does is whine while Bismarck just gets on and dominates the game.

Yeah, saw how he dominated in the first game against the bulls, and the game againt the Weepee. Very effective at getting penalised in a kickable position for the both those teams :p

[McT]

Strauss? The Cheetahs' hooker?

He is crap. All he does is whine while Bismarck just gets on and dominates the game.

You clearly have not read any of Pixual's comments on BduP? :D


Yeah, saw how he dominated in the first game against the bulls, and the game againt the Weepee. Very effective at getting penalised in a kickable position for the both those teams :p

It's his greatest flaw. If he could improve his knowledge of the rules surrounding the ruck :p and line outs, he would be a different quality player.

What I saw of it, I thought Strauss looked decent on Sunday.

[FoXtroT]

Frans Steyn in negotiations with the Sharks.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super...-soon-20120320

[McT]

It will be great to have him back in the team again.

[Pixual]

...he has been destructive so far this season.

To his own team, yes.


Turnover ball is gold, GOLD!!!

Only if it results in points, which for us so far isn't really happening as often as it should. Not that I am saying we shouldn't win turn-over ball, we should, but it shouldn't be done at the risk of giving away penalties / points. That's just stupid. I'd also be interested to see the number of times he has been sin-binned for his offences where it's cost us points.

Not a player I would rely on to win games.

[Devill]

Sharks 24 March

1. Dale Chadwick , 2. Bismarck du Plessis , 3. Jannie du Plessis , 4. Anton Bresler , 5. Jandre Marais , 6. Marcell Coetzee , 7. Willem Alberts , 8. Keegan Daniel (Captain) , 9. Charl McLeod , 10. Patrick Lambie , 11. Lwazi Mvovo , 12. Meyer Bosman , 13. Tim Whitehead , 14. Odwa Ndungane , 15. Riaan Viljoen

Replacements , 16. Craig Burden , 17. Nick Schonert , 18. Steven Sykes , 19. Jacques Botes , 20. Frederic Michalak , 21. Marius Joubert , 22. Louis Ludik

[Devill]

Sharks: 31 March

15 Riaan Viljoen, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Tim Whitehead, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Keegan Daniel (captain), 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Jandre Marais, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 2 Dale Chadwick.

Substitutes: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Anton Bresler, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Meyer Bosman, 22 Louis Ludik.

[McT]

Thank Devill. Quite a strong bench. Just noticed that Lambie is missing :eek:

[Devill]

Thank Devill. Quite a strong bench. Just noticed that Lambie is missing :eek:

They say it is a dental injury, speculations have it as a broken jaw.... If he could have played on Saturday I was willing to bet the sharks could take the brumbies by 6+ but with freddy slotting in at no. 10 it is a 50/50 call again :(

[McT]

They say it is a dental injury, speculations have it as a broken jaw.... If he could have played on Saturday I was willing to bet the sharks could take the brumbies by 6+ but with freddy slotting in at no. 10 it is a 50/50 call again :(

I recall him taking a knee to the jaw chasing an up-n-under. Not good this.

[hungrybeaver]

I hope Michalak gets into gear. the man is so slow and lacks urgency. I would actually like to see Bosman moved to 10 at half time with Whitehead coming at 12 and JP at 13 that could be quite the backline.

Brumbies at home, Jake White as coach... I'll either be screaming obscenities or screaming for joy. 50/50 for me.

[McT]

Interesting proposal there. Why Bosman at 10? Just curious?

[GreGorGy]

I'll either be screaming obscenities or screaming for joy. 50/50 for me.

I'll hopefully be screaming both :)

Look, I have never liked the sharkies and never will. That said, unless they play the Chiefs, I'll support them against any non-SA side most especially one that Jake coaches. The match officiating will decide the level of my obscenities.

[McT]

Each week, Sharks centre Tim Whitehead will bring us news from the camp in his own words. Touring can be tough but The Sharks always make sure that spirits are high as we read for week one.

Sunday: The Day After the Game

So it's Sunday morning after the great comeback victory against the Reds at Mr Price KINGS PARK and the excitement seriously starts to kick in for the Australasian tour. We were obviously extremely chuffed with the effort from the boys after the poor start, but a win against the defending champs instilled a true sense of confidence and belief in the team. Despite the stiff, bruised body, the thought of spending a month traveling to the other end of the world with your best mates and playing against some of the best teams (and players) on the planet picked me up very easily!

The time had eventually come for us to board our Qantas flight for Sydney, the only difficulty was the sad farewells for the couples involved. It was clear that the women were the more emotional ones at the gates. However, I couldn't help but notice a lot of moisture on Marcell Coetzee's cheeks at Jo'burg International!
The flight itself was really good and we were looked after brilliantly by the Qantas staff. There was, however, a slight hiccup in the upstairs section after a passenger passed out an hour into the flight. The pilot was about to turn the plane around to head back to Jo'burg when doc came to the rescue! He literally saved the passenger's life and was bumped up to business class with young Paul Jordaan and the trip went on. The rest was smooth sailing, which was surprising after watching a few episodes of border security on Discovery channel. Australian customs are strict, seriously strict!

Monday: Coogee Bay

The main goal for the day was staying awake as late as possible in order to get into a good sleeping pattern as early as possible. Coogee has a beautiful beach and some really great coffee shops and delis, which made staying awake more rewarding! Despite the cool, overcast weather, it didn't stop the boys from a good swim in the rather chilly water. Good for recovery...

After quite an interrupted night's sleep, an early wake up to the fantastic breakfast buffet was a huge hit! It's actually not as great as it could be because of the way Steelo (fitness trainer Mark Steele) patrols the eating area looking for people to ridicule over their diets. Lucky for Craig Burden, the mayo served here is 97% fat free. Thereafter we climbed into the local gym and had a good flush out.

Tuesday

Myself and Paul Jordaan have attempted to set the tour moustache trend which has not taken effect as quickly as expected. Louis Ludik was next to hop on the bandwagon after sculpting a gorgeous dirt lip, but the nickname Byleveldt has stuck and is a bit disappointing for him! I'm predicting Keegan to take the next step soon...
Had a good training session this morning in preparation for the Waratahs, the guys are positive and ready for the challenge.

The weather is a lot better today so us backs decided on an outing to the famous Bondi Beach. It almost felt like a setting in a movie it was so stunning, reminded me of photos from the south of France. Charl McLeod ended up in his Sharks speedo and it felt like time stood still when he began his Baywatch jog into the water. Alone. We then hit the mall, where it took Marius Joubert over an hour to make an iPad 3 purchase. I have never seen a salesman so frustrated before and so keen to pass his customer on to another salesman at the expense of commission. Pat Lambie bought exactly the same iPad in 4 minutes, no problems.

This evening we headed out for a team dinner at a Brazilian meat house called Churrusco. Serving awesome buffet meats and pretty much everything else, I reckon we definitely got our money's worth. However, fighting the jet lag with an overloaded stomach is a lot more difficult.

Thursday

The early morning field session went really well today and the guys looked slick. Nick Schonert joined the squad today for the first time and he's looking sharp despite the jet lag, he's fitting in well!

Friday: The Day Before

It's tour game one tomorrow vs the Tahs. We had a good captain's run at the Allianz Stadium in the warm afternoon sun. Thereafter the boys had a swim at Coogee and soaked up the remaining afternoon rays. Dale Chadwick felt nothing to strip down into a super sexy pair of short training tights amongst a few hundred sunbathing locals and tourists. He didn't stand out at all... All in all this week produced loads of laughs and good prep for the game. The guys have had a ball and the atmospheres incredible.

Sunday

The morning after the disappointing loss to the Tahs wasn't too great, we know we weren't good enough in a few aspects and since then have been working hard on our reviews and analysis. A lot of discussion has focussed on our errors and this week is vital for rectification. We had some good passages of play but we're still making a few too many mistakes. However, we're extremely excited for the next step, the challenge against the Brumbies who are looking sharp this year.


http://www.sharksrugby.co.za/article.aspx?id=1312271

[hungrybeaver]

Interesting proposal there. Why Bosman at 10? Just curious?

Because there is no one else :p
Bosman had a stint at 10 with the Cheetahs, so its not a major transition for him. IIRC he played a few games for the Sharks at flyhalf, albeit they were not great games. With his performance last week his confidence will be high coming into this game and he will have 2 awesome players outside him which will undoubtedly give him more confidence to move the ball. It may not be flash rugby, but all he needs to do is give the ball to the line and let them do the rest, and kick where necessary.

With Michalak you never know. He'll either have the greatest game of his life or the worst. If its the latter I'd risk it with Bosman on for the 2nd half. He can kick, pass, and tackle.

[Devill]

I recall him taking a knee to the jaw chasing an up-n-under. Not good this.

+1... Hope this does not count him out of the Bok tests :(


Because there is no one else :p
Bosman had a stint at 10 with the Cheetahs, so its not a major transition for him. IIRC he played a few games for the Sharks at flyhalf, albeit they were not great games. With his performance last week his confidence will be high coming into this game and he will have 2 awesome players outside him which will undoubtedly give him more confidence to move the ball. It may not be flash rugby, but all he needs to do is give the ball to the line and let them do the rest, and kick where necessary.

With Michalak you never know. He'll either have the greatest game of his life or the worst. If its the latter I'd risk it with Bosman on for the 2nd half. He can kick, pass, and tackle.

I have never liked Bosman and I really thought he was over rated but I must admit tht he is changing my opinion about him slowly but surely.

I still do not think that he would be in the top couple of candidates come Springbok selections but as a Super Rugby player and CC player I think he will only get better.

I have still not made my pick as the Sharks are blowing hot and cold.

[BobsLawnService]

I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that we probably won't make the playoffs. We're looking rubbish this year.

[McT]

Because there is no one else :p
Bosman had a stint at 10 with the Cheetahs, so its not a major transition for him. IIRC he played a few games for the Sharks at flyhalf, albeit they were not great games. With his performance last week his confidence will be high coming into this game and he will have 2 awesome players outside him which will undoubtedly give him more confidence to move the ball. It may not be flash rugby, but all he needs to do is give the ball to the line and let them do the rest, and kick where necessary.

With Michalak you never know. He'll either have the greatest game of his life or the worst. If its the latter I'd risk it with Bosman on for the 2nd half. He can kick, pass, and tackle.

I wouldn't mind them giving Bosman a chance at 10. If Michalak has another of his off games, perhaps they could slot him in there? That said, I am really hoping the Frenchman fires today.


+1... Hope this does not count him out of the Bok tests :(

I echo that.


I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that we probably won't make the playoffs. We're looking rubbish this year.

Have faith, sire! :)

[BobsLawnService]

We can't seem to string together three phases in attack without f*#king up. The basic skills are just not there.

[PhreeMe]

We can't seem to string together three phases in attack without f*#king up. The basic skills are just not there.

I must say, when we're building up for a try now, I either expect us to "seal" the ball off or knock it on... The number of opportunities we've missed are plenty :(

That being said, I will never write out team off! For some reason seem to either start the season well and end badly, or vice versa... the latter hopefully ringing true this season.

[Pixual]

We had a really crap draw this year compared to the jokers in the Cape and the flamingoes in the North. At least we have obtained bonus points in all but one of our games, which might prove very useful in the latter stages PROVIDED we can knock over the local teams when we have our chance against them.

[hungrybeaver]

Well I have to say Michalak had a good game at 10. In fact the entire team had a good game! The last 3 minutes were disastrous to my health.. being a Sharks supporter I think we ALL know that when the Sharks are in the lead, its not guaranteed. There was a nervous atmosphere at the bar where I was watching and a huge sigh of relief when it was over.

How was Mvovs try? He just put his head down and turned on the gas! Man he is fast.

[hungrybeaver]

Oh yes how blatantly forward was that one pass when the Brumbies scored? The oke passed it while his foot was on the 20m line and the dude received it 2-3m in front of the line! Shockingly poor by the touch judge!

[McT]

@Pixual, you always have a different view of players, what are your thoughts on flyhalf? I ask because there is no word on Lambie and Freddie isn't impressing at the mo.

[McT]

Oh yes how blatantly forward was that one pass when the Brumbies scored? The oke passed it while his foot was on the 20m line and the dude received it 2-3m in front of the line! Shockingly poor by the touch judge!

Too many forward passes are being missed. Too many judgement calls by refs and assist. refs are being messed up.

So even if your side plays out their socks, on the day it could all come to nought if the ref blunders things.

[PhreeMe]

The last 3 minutes were disastrous to my health.. being a Sharks supporter I think we ALL know that when the Sharks are in the lead, its not guaranteed. There was a nervous atmosphere at the bar where I was watching and a huge sigh of relief when it was over.

How was Mvovs try? He just put his head down and turned on the gas! Man he is fast.

That made 2 of us...... when the Brumbies scored that last try, the clock disappeared, but I KNEW it was close to full time. When he was laying on the ball I thought to myself, that's right, Stay a while and listen..... to the crowd :D Sadly they took a quick conversion and when the game restarted, my nerves were already shot!

The commentator had me laughing with that try "HITS THE TURBOOO's" :D


Too many forward passes are being missed. Too many judgement calls by refs and assist. refs are being messed up.

So even if your side plays out their socks, on the day it could all come to nought if the ref blunders things.

Yeah the speculative calls are called incorrectly and the blatant ones seem to slide... I really hope there is no mini-bias given to the home team....

[Pixual]

@Pixual, you always have a different view of players, what are your thoughts on flyhalf? I ask because there is no word on Lambie and Freddie isn't impressing at the mo.

We don't really have a specialist play maker at 10 these days. I haven't seen Freddie playing at 10 this year (I missed the last two games), so it's a bit of a nut scratcher for the coaches. If I had my way I would opt for the services of Willem De Waal, who I have always rated. Who knows where he plies his trade these days?

[PhreeMe]

We don't really have a specialist play maker at 10 these days. I haven't seen Freddie playing at 10 this year (I missed the last two games), so it's a bit of a nut scratcher for the coaches. If I had my way I would opt for the services of Willem De Waal, who I have always rated. Who knows where he plies his trade these days?

I imagine this will be met with some flames, but I would like to see Charl given a shot in Lambie's absence.
That being said, I hope Lambie isn't absent for too long!

I'm not sure whether he's in the Stormers 'B' side as some of the 'second choice' Sharkies are?

[Pixual]

De Waal got a rough deal at the Stormers. Great pity because he is one of those freakishly accurate kickers. Together with Tewis De Bruyn they made an excellent pair. Just a pity the FS forwards were never giving them enough ball to work with.

[McT]

Also talk if Steyn coming back... although I'd rather have him at inside center.

[BobsLawnService]

I must say, when we're building up for a try now, I either expect us to "seal" the ball off or knock it on... The number of opportunities we've missed are plenty :(

That being said, I will never write out team off! For some reason seem to either start the season well and end badly, or vice versa... the latter hopefully ringing true this season.

The problem is that I just don't see the team improving. We still don't seem to know what to do on attack, our handling is still terrible and if anything our defence is worse than it was earlier in the season.

I really want to see something change now.

[PhreeMe]

The problem is that I just don't see the team improving. We still don't seem to know what to do on attack, our handling is still terrible and if anything our defence is worse than it was earlier in the season.

I really want to see something change now.

I see it in a different light.... I'd say surely we CAN only get better....?

[McT]

I see it in a different light.... I'd say surely we CAN only get better....?

Agreed.

[Pixual]

Hugh Reece-Edwards MUST be axed, once and for all from the Sharks coaching lineup, together with the big gay-boy Strauli.

Reece-Edward's is a coach's bum. Remember when he had his stint as the head coach back in the day and we came stone last under his guidance? Yup. That paved the way way for Strauli to take over and everybody thought he was such a great coach, but in reality the Sharks couldn't get any worse, so naturally any improvements made him look great. We all know where that led SA rugby.

The problem is in the coaching. It's very simple.