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blunomore
17-02-2009, 11:51 AM
http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?Channel=News_Home&ArticleId=1518-1786_2470410&IsColumnistStory=False

Johannesburg - Construction on Gauteng's rapid rail network, Gautrain, has been under way since September 2006. Fin24.com brings you some of the highlights and latest developments.

Excavations

Almost 12 000m of the 15km underground route of Gauteng's high-speed rail network - which stretches from Johannesburg's Park Station to Marlboro - has been excavated. Construction and earthworks at all its stations are running on schedule, spokespeople say.

To date 964m has been excavated in the underground section between Park Station and Shaft E2 (at the Wilds, in Houghton).
The section between Rosebank Station and Shaft E2, a distance of 2 885m, has been fully excavated.
Between Rosebank Station to Shaft E5 (in Dunkeld), 724m has been excavated.
Between Shaft E5 and Sandton, 1 540m has been excavated.
A distance of 504m has been excavated from Sandton to E7 (at the western side of Rivonia Road, Sandton).
The section between Mushroom Farm Park and Sandton- about 503m - has been completely excavated.
The Mushroom Farm Park to Sandton section of 616m is also completely excavated, and so is the
Mushroom Farm Park to Marlboro section, which comprises 4 218m.

Construction


Construction on the Gautrain started at the end of September 2006. It was broken into two phases to be constructed concurrently.
The first has a duration of 45 months and includes the network between OR Tambo International Airport and Sandton, encompassing the stations at OR Tambo, Rhodesfield, Marlboro and Sandton, together with the depot and operations control centre near Allandale Road in Midrand.
The second phase, being constructed concurrently, will be completed in 54 months towards 2011. It includes the remainder of the rail network and stations linking Sandton to Park Station in Johannesburg and the route from Midrand to Hatfield.
About 93 000 jobs will be created during construction

Stations

There are three anchor stations at:


OR Tambo International Airport;
Pretoria; and
Johannesburg.

The seven other stations will be at:


Rosebank;
Sandton;
Marlboro;
Midrand;
Centurion;
Hatfield; and
Rhodesfield, Kempton Park.

Travelling times


Travelling time between Park Station, Johannesburg and Hatfield will be 42 minutes; it will take 14 minutes from Sandton to OR Tambo International Airport.
There will be a train at least every 10 minutes during peak times at stations between Johannesburg and Pretoria.

Rail cars


Gautrain's rolling stock of 96 rail cars is based on the Bombardier Electrostar series, which is used extensively in the UK.

The first 15 rail cars, plus the body shells for the complete fleet, are being manufactured at Bombardier Transportation's facility in Derby in the UK.

Gautrain's first shipment of four completed rail cars - built by a specialised construction and assembly process in Derby, UK - arrived at the depot in December 2008. The rest are being shipped to SA over the next few months for local assembly.
The body shells and major components for 81 Gautrain rail cars are being "flat-packed" into crates and shipped to South Africa, where local technicians will assemble them.

Technicians are already busy with the assembly of a four-car train set at the Union Carriage and Wagon Partnership in Nigel, which is expected to be completed before the end of June 2009.

Gautrain's 24 four-car train sets will ride on air suspension to ensure smooth travel at 160km/hour.

Some general facts


Gautrain commuter fares will be lower than the perceived cost of using a car. They will, however, be higher than current rail and taxi fares as the new train will offer a higher-quality service.

Airport passengers' fares will be higher than the rate per kilometre charged on other services. The fare structure was developed in relation to existing taxi fares, bus fares and private car costs.

Forecasts indicate a potential 100 000 passengers per day, well over the international norm for a new rail service. An expected annual growth of 4.8% will result in more than 120 000 passengers per day by 2010.
Commuters will only need one electronic smart card to pay for a Gautrain trip, a Gautrain feeder bus and car parking.
During construction approximately 6.7 million cubic metres of earth will be moved around and reworked to form the basis for the new rail line.
The Gautrain pre-feasibility study was initiated in 1998 and completed in 1999, and Gauteng Premier Mbhazima Shilowa announced the Gautrain rapid rail link project in February 2000.

A feasibility report on the proposed Gautrain rapid rail link project was completed in July 2001 and the two bidding consortia submitted their tender proposal documents on September 30 2003.

More than R1 810m was spent on procurement from and sub-contracting to black economic empowerment (BEE) firms, compared to an obligation of about R820m by July 2008.
South African materials, plant and equipment to the value of more than R1 030m have been purchased, compared to an obligation of R770m by July 2008.

syntax
17-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Nice post, i wonder about the pricing of the tickets though,
and i still dotn know how am i supposed to get to the stations? Anyone know?
It seems kinda pointless for ppl working in pretoria to have to sit in traffic to get to a station, find parking and probably pay for it, get to pretoria and then walk to work?
anyone knows how this will work exactly?

Garyvdh
17-02-2009, 11:58 AM
I can see this thread getting derailed pretty quickly. :p

I live "South of the railway tracks". The only way this is going to benefit me is to take existing traffic off the highways. Hardly noticeable though. Hopefully one day there will be a Southern leg to the rail as well.

I wonder how long till one of the "operators" breaks something and the entire carriage comes crashing down?

Forgive my skepticism... but this is Africa. ;)

syntax
17-02-2009, 12:00 PM
I actually have some belief in this...i really want it to work.

springbokkie
17-02-2009, 12:04 PM
Nice post, i wonder about the pricing of the tickets though,
and i still dotn know how am i supposed to get to the stations? Anyone know?
It seems kinda pointless for ppl working in pretoria to have to sit in traffic to get to a station, find parking and probably pay for it, get to pretoria and then walk to work?
anyone knows how this will work exactly?

Think they will have buses for all the commuters. The business express (http://www.sarcc.co.za/be.asp) has a similar service.

Albereth
17-02-2009, 12:05 PM
Forecasts indicate a potential 100 000 passengers per day, well over the international norm for a new rail service. An expected annual growth of 4.8% will result in more than 120 000 passengers per day by 2010.

But this thing might not even be ready in time for the soccer but the passengers will have already grown in number. Hmmm.

syntax
17-02-2009, 12:07 PM
Think they will have buses for all the commuters. The business express (http://www.sarcc.co.za/be.asp) has a similar service.

pay bus to get to station, pay ticket to use gautrain, pay bus to get to work....
I hope the fee's are reasonable...

blunomore
17-02-2009, 12:11 PM
I actually have some belief in this...i really want it to work.

+ 1 million!

As far as the transport between the stations and your eventual destination (house/office/shopping mall) is concerned, there will apparently be buses (not of the Putco variety, but attached to the Gautrain system) taking care of that part of your trip.

springbokkie
17-02-2009, 12:12 PM
pay bus to get to station, pay ticket to use gautrain, pay bus to get to work....
I hope the fee's are reasonable...


Free bus shuttle service

They make up for it somehow, but it is claimed to be free.

Deenem
17-02-2009, 12:14 PM
I live "South of the railway tracks". The only way this is going to benefit me is to take existing traffic off the highways. Hardly noticeable though. Hopefully one day there will be a Southern leg to the rail as well.

I was thinking, the first extension should probalby be to Fourways/Randburg, second one to the 'sauf'

killadoob
17-02-2009, 12:18 PM
Yea deenem for sure man.

Gary this is a great thing i believe and have that attitude if you want but i suppose you would be moaning more if there was nothing being done.

oober
17-02-2009, 12:27 PM
I saw they mentioned later expansions to East Pretoria. That would be cool.

syntax
17-02-2009, 12:48 PM
They make up for it somehow, but it is claimed to be free.

Free? hmmm, they would need some way to regulate this i think, perhaps weekly gautrain pass in order to use the buses....otherwise whats to stop me getting on the bus from where i am to near the station for free, and not using the gautrain?


I was thinking, the first extension should probalby be to Fourways/Randburg, second one to the 'sauf'

that would make me very happy.....the less congestion in this area the better..

Peder
17-02-2009, 01:16 PM
This sounds cool :) can't wait to try out the Gautrain...

Just hope its not too expensive...

blunomore
17-02-2009, 01:17 PM
whats to stop me getting on the bus from where i am to near the station for free, and not using the gautrain?

Maybe you already buy the train ticket when you get on the bus .......?

syntax
17-02-2009, 01:25 PM
Maybe you already buy the train ticket when you get on the bus .......?

That would open up problems, bus drivers could potentially carry fare amounts of money. They will be robbed.

It will probably work on a weekly pass system, or u pay a very small fee when u get on the bus and use ur receipt to get a reduced fee on ur gautrain fare...
although they would probably still get robbed.... cynical.

Cyberdude
17-02-2009, 02:13 PM
How long will it take before they set the first coach alight? Hopefully those passengers won't use the Gautrain!

2CentsWorth
17-02-2009, 02:19 PM
Nice post, i wonder about the pricing of the tickets though,
and i still dotn know how am i supposed to get to the stations? Anyone know?
It seems kinda pointless for ppl working in pretoria to have to sit in traffic to get to a station, find parking and probably pay for it, get to pretoria and then walk to work?
anyone knows how this will work exactly?

There will be a specialised bus feeder network and park 'n ride facilities. Parking will be of a similar nature as the all-day parking at OR Tambo.

2CentsWorth
17-02-2009, 02:21 PM
That would open up problems, bus drivers could potentially carry money fare amounts of money. They will be robbed.

It will probably work on a weekly pass system, or u pay a very small fee when u get on the bus and use ur receipt to get a reduced fee on ur gautrain fare...
although they would probably still get robbed.... cynical.

Did you even read what blu posted?

Commuters will only need one electronic smart card to pay for a Gautrain trip, a Gautrain feeder bus and car parking.

cash will be handled at the stations exclusively.

blunomore
17-02-2009, 02:23 PM
Did you even read what blu posted?


cash will be handled at the stations exclusively.


My lamb, not even Blu read the details of what Blu posted :D

Thanks for clearing that up.

syntax
17-02-2009, 02:32 PM
Did you even read what blu posted?


Sadly, i only read what was quoted, not the article. Lazy i know..

genetic
17-02-2009, 03:22 PM
I'm sure a lot of planning has gone into the security of the passengers on the Gautrain. I think that this is one project that will work. No doubt everyone will try it, and those that like it or can make good use of it, will use the rapid rail link if fares are decent.

Dolby
17-02-2009, 03:25 PM
It has to do a lot to make me use it instead of my car. There's 2 main issues why I'm thinking I won't use it : cost and time

Cost : I'm paying roughly R140,00pd for my transport per day (installment, petrol, insurance). I'd hope Gautrain could cut this in half. Right now, at least I still have a (depreciating) asset worth a little, so to make me stand up I'd like a R50,00 max.

Timing : It take's me about 1.15 min - 1:30 min to get to work. With the driving to a bus stop, parking, paying for bus/train, Gautraining to your destination and ten disembarking - I doubt I'd save much time.

Paul_S
17-02-2009, 04:46 PM
If the feeder networks work nicely (like buses every 15 minutes, the whole system is safe and the taxi industry doesn't decide to throw their toys) I'll happily use the service.

Even if a return ticket from JHB to PTA costs R100, the savings of not having to own a second car will make it worth while.

RandomDesign
17-02-2009, 05:22 PM
Hopefully one day there will be a Southern leg to the rail as well.

BWAHAHAHAHA


I hope the fee's are reasonable...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA


Gautrain commuter fares will be lower than the perceived cost of using a car

perceived cost? vs? actual cost? some explanation of what they mean and exactly how they're deriving this would be useful. as it stands it looks like a big hole to climb through and charge what the **** they want.



approximately 6.7 million cubic metres of earth will be moved around and reworked

k seriously I've been wondering about this, where are they putting all this dirt?



About 93 000 jobs will be created during construction

so in 2-3 years we can look forward to a spike in crime as thousands and thousands of newly unemployed former rail and stadium builders join the millions already looking for work.

KillerX
17-02-2009, 05:38 PM
I hate to be negative about such a great project, but I dont see how this will work.

JHB is very spread out - not like cities in europe... which means that unless u work or live 5 min away from a train station - you would most probably have to take some sort of bus or taxi to your work or home when you get off at a station...

Now this is fine in countries where the population is actually civilised and not comparable to barbarians. You expect me to get onto a PUBLIC transport bus or taxi with my laptop, cellphone, wallet, watch, and I will make it alive to work? This is in a country where people are literally KILLED for cellphones and a few hundred bucks on a daily basis?

There is no trust... no safety... Law and Order is paramount for something like this to work.

Yea right.... enjoy your gautrain.. ill be sticking to my own car thanks...

blunomore
17-02-2009, 06:27 PM
I hate to be negative about such a great project, but I dont see how this will work.

JHB is very spread out - not like cities in europe... which means that unless u work or live 5 min away from a train station - you would most probably have to take some sort of bus or taxi to your work or home when you get off at a station...

Now this is fine in countries where the population is actually civilised and not comparable to barbarians. You expect me to get onto a PUBLIC transport bus or taxi with my laptop, cellphone, wallet, watch, and I will make it alive to work? This is in a country where people are literally KILLED for cellphones and a few hundred bucks on a daily basis?

There is no trust... no safety... Law and Order is paramount for something like this to work.

Yea right.... enjoy your gautrain.. ill be sticking to my own car thanks...

The Gautrain is not meant for you. In more ways than one.