Pretoria WUG

[malec]

There are some things happening in Pretoria with regards to a wifi mesh in the coming months ...

If you're interested please map yourself on www.nodedb.com.

We also have a mailing list set up, will post details on subscribing later this afternoon.

[martin]

Sweet, does this include Centurion?

[malec]

Sure, have you checked nodedb? I think there are already som guys mapped in Centurion

[malec]

EDIT: My apologies! I posted the wrong address for subscription. If you signed up for the list and I haven't contacted you yet, please just unsubscribe to the other list and send a blank mail to ptawless-subscribe@sum1.gotdns.com

[antowan]

Hi guys

Any peeps in Doringkloof, Centurion that want to connect via wireless?

Ciao
Antowan

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###

[malec]

antowan, have you checked nodedb.com?

[connectionless]

Any body in the Centurion Wierdapark area that can maybe help me with this whole wireless thing
i'm picking up a "connectbird" signal


ssshhhmeeee

[connectionless]

Syte forgot to give my mail addy
dawie@canyonrock.co.za

ssshhhmeeee

[RangerBob]

if telkom finally give me an adsl connection there might be a wifi going up in my little corner of cornwall hill centurion. please mr telkom, please may a have some more bandwidth?

[martin]

Okay what are the basics I need for setting up a node?

It seems there are quite a few people in Centurion. I'm based in Monavoni, Centurion.

All that I ask is that you try out a Mac, coke and fries - martin

[malec]

martin, go check www.daffy.za.net/jawug

[martin]

Thanks, I'll go have a look.

[martin]

Site seems to be down.

[malec]

it seems so. i'll have a chat with the owner and get back to you ...

[encrypted]

http://www.jawug.za.net/

[martin]

Thanks encrypted, this is a pretty useful link to wireless noobs like myself: http://www.jawug.za.net/SomeInstallationTips

[malec]

yup, new sites up.

[DaLemon]

I am Lemon from JAWUG, if there is any quick questions you wish answered and the information is not on the site please ask me either here or you can e-mail me. Check http://www.jawug.za.net/Lemon

I am the main person working on the Installation Tips page.

[martin]

Thanks!

[malec]

Thanks Lemon

[antowan]

I wanna hook up with others in Centurion.

Contact me please. I know of the PWP / Pretoria Wireless Project. There is a node a couple of blocks away from me. I WANT IN! I have mentioned it 2 years ago but never got around to it. Now I am!

[th0rn]

BTW PWP website is www.pwp.za.net

We are constantly looking for memebers that are prepared to spend money to get the network going.

[Luke7777]

The site is not much of a help

Pretoria Wireless Project has a problem

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.

Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) (localhost))

[th0rn]

Sorry about that.

The only person with admin to the website is on holiday at the moment.

[th0rn]

www.pwp.za.net is back up.

[PeekNPoke]

I'm in Centurion and currently have 3 hops over 6km installed. I'm extending these links. Anybody interested PM me.

[PeekNPoke]

Btw. Th0rn, are you the same person that enrolled on my dormant WiFi forum?

[th0rn]

Probably, im not sure which forums you are talking about.

[antowan]

Getting on soon! Thanks to PWP for all the help! Equipment is close to complete. Installation ETA next weekend. YEAH! http://antowan.com/pictures/thumbnails.php?album=16

Got the router and casing. Now I need to get the antenna up and all that. :D

[bank_nut]

Hi there
Is the wireless Project in the Moreleta area?


:p

regards

bank nut

[Luke7777]

Maybe try the guys here (http://www.pwp.za.net/index.php/NodeMap)

[antowan]

Well I am live on PWP and it rocks! Will put my FTP server live this coming week. It has been installed and all that, but will be away this weekend, so cannot plug it in yet. Don't have time.

The pending link with JAWUG is going to be brilliant! :D

[RichardP]

Well I am live on PWP and it rocks! Will put my FTP server live this coming week. It has been installed and all that, but will be away this weekend, so cannot plug it in yet. Don't have time.

The pending link with JAWUG is going to be brilliant! :D

As a taster ... here are the link speeds for Jawug from East rand to the West Rand (about 4 hops) and about 40KM worth of distance :-P


PING 172.16.255.234 (172.16.255.234) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=3.26 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=3.62 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=3.23 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=28.1 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=4.69 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=4.87 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=7.74 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=4.33 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=5.96 ms

--- 172.16.255.234 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8006ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 3.233/7.325/28.196/7.502 ms

[antowan]

As a taster ... here are the link speeds for Jawug from East rand to the West Rand (about 4 hops) and about 40KM worth of distance :-P


PING 172.16.255.234 (172.16.255.234) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=3.26 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=3.62 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=3.23 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=28.1 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=4.69 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=4.87 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=7.74 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=4.33 ms
64 bytes from 172.16.255.234: icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=5.96 ms

--- 172.16.255.234 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8006ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 3.233/7.325/28.196/7.502 ms

:D

[Ryder_JHB]

And here is a small taster of the speeds on that link...

Length: 353,443,840 (337M) (unauthoritative)

27% [=========> ] 96,570,192 1.39M/s ETA 02:56 :D

[antowan]

And here is a small taster of the speeds on that link...

Length: 353,443,840 (337M) (unauthoritative)

27% [=========> ] 96,570,192 1.39M/s ETA 02:56 :D

Eish! ;)

[antowan]

Sitting at my Gfriend's house in Lynnwood. Picking up Pretoria Mesh, but don't know how to connect. I cannot believe I neglected to sharpen my wireless skills over the last few years. :mad: I have this big gaping hole in my computing knowledge. Have to fix this immediately. :)

BTW, PWP is brilliant. My connection in Centurion is fantastic. Thanks to the peeps from PWP for helping me out. Especially Th0rn and CodeWarrior.

For the sake of uptake of this fantastic tech, I hope the PWP and JAWUG link is done ASAP! :D

[burst]

Just a quick question: how does everyone on the pwp communicate with each other to set up lan games, let ppl know about the ftp servers, etc?

IRC, Google talk, MSN, win popup, ICQ, etc?

[Ryder_JHB]

I can't speak for pwp, but we use IRC mainly.

[antowan]

Just a quick question: how does everyone on the pwp communicate with each other to set up lan games, let ppl know about the ftp servers, etc?

IRC, Google talk, MSN, win popup, ICQ, etc?

Like Ryder said. PWP uses internal IRC and also Skype... Mostly IRC. If you are on the network, you can scan the network with a subnet scanner available online to see what services are available at any given time.

[th0rn]

IRC and jabber are mainly used also a little teamspeak atm

[supa]

i stay in waterkloof, does it reach that far??

[ath0]

supa, i will most probably be able to link to you.
How far are you from the country club golf course?


Let me know if you want to try.

[PeekNPoke]

Hi th0rn,

I've registered on PWP but it looks like your email setup on PHPBB is not functioning ... please enable my account so we can talk about hooking up some more networks ;)

[th0rn]

Sorry about the forum.

We never use it and thus don't see when its broken, IRC is our preferred form of communication.

Ill speak to the person responsible for maintaining the forum and get this fixed.

[th0rn]

Hi th0rn,

I've registered on PWP but it looks like your email setup on PHPBB is not functioning ... please enable my account so we can talk about hooking up some more networks ;)

The forum has now been fixed.

[TiredOfWaiting]

Hey guys. I live in La Montagne (in Chambord flats) and my friend's laptop picked up a wireless network called "DevNet". Does anyone know about this and what is PWP's network ID, just "PWP" or something else?

[The_Librarian]

Hi there

I have decided to say a hearty "stuff you" to the powers-that-be, and is definitely interested in joining this project.

It all is Greek to me (at present) :p but I'm going to work it through slowly, it sounds exciting.

Warmest regards

Libs

[The_Librarian]

I am in line of sight with the Chambord flats, and get a very weak wireless signal with my laptop's wireless card.

Is there anybody willing to have me visit them and take a look at the equipment and setups?

PM me if needed.

Kind regards

Libs

[ath0]

I am in line of sight with the Chambord flats, and get a very weak wireless signal with my laptop's wireless card.

Is there anybody willing to have me visit them and take a look at the equipment and setups?

PM me if needed.

Kind regards

Libs

Your area is already covered :D
See http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5e08f09a03.jpg

If you need help installing your equipment, feel free to contact me.

[The_Librarian]

Your area is already covered :D
See http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5e08f09a03.jpg

If you need help installing your equipment, feel free to contact me.

No-go... :(

I'm behind the hill on which the two flats is standing. On the left is Chambord, on the right is another block of flats (can't remember what) and we're just right of this block, out of sight behind the hill :(

Aaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhh

Hoekom ekke? :(

[ath0]

No-go... :(

I'm behind the hill on which the two flats is standing. On the left is Chambord, on the right is another block of flats (can't remember what) and we're just right of this block, out of sight behind the hill :(

Aaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhh

Hoekom ekke? :(

We have a way to connect there, do you live near the Spar?

If you have a view over Silverton and Meyerspark, you could help alot of guys there by running an AP:)

[The_Librarian]

Sorry, not close to said Spar tho.

If you go down Pretoria road towards Bronkhorstspruit then you pass a panelbeaters.

I live behind that panelbeaters. :(

Maybe if we can ask the owner of the Spar nicely? but still won't help me as I don't have LOS to the Spar.

[protzkrog]

.

[protzkrog]

anyone thats interested in joining PTAWUG - please register and add your location on www.wug.za.net

for more info join us on IRC - irc.ptawug.za.net

[protzkrog]

what are your waiting for - register !

hehe

[The_Librarian]

Already done so :D

Hope we can get others to join the community :)

[Hexsist]

Im a member :) Just need that Silverton Meyerspark thing sorted before I can install my hardware.

[d-_-b]

Hi Guys

At the moment there are two wugs operating in the Pretoria area, due the politics and personality clashes.

If you live in the Centurion area have a look at:

http://www.pwp.za.net
irc://irc.pwp.za.net

And if you live in the Pretoria East area you can join the IRC channel:

irc://irc.ptawug.za.net

I’m living in the Moot area against the Magaliesberg and am busy planning some nodes and trying to get a wug running in the Moot. You will find me idling on the pwp IRC and you are welcome to plot your nodes on http://wind.pwp.za.net and see if you have line of sight to the access points.

Regards,

[protzkrog]

you have los to PTAWUG's Faerie Glen Highsite - http://www.wug.za.net/nodeplotter/elev.php?co=28.2075,-25.6981,6,28.3203,-25.7717,6

[d-_-b]

you have los to PTAWUG's Faerie Glen Highsite - http://www.wug.za.net/nodeplotter/elev.php?co=28.2075,-25.6981,6,28.3203,-25.7717,6

All good and well that I have line of sight protzkrog but ptawug doesn't want to talk to me. They see me as a spy, which by itself is laughable because to my knowledge a WUG is a neutral and open community network so there isn't any need for secretive behavior.

But like I said before if you live in Pretoria East try www.ptawug.za.net for now, if you live in Centurion try www.pwp.za.net and if you live in the Moot area you can find me on irc.pwp.za.net (irc://irc.pwp.za.net) and please plot yourself on wind.pwp.za.net.

Regards,

[ath0]

Ja PTAWUG = evil dictatorship



11:42 !irc.ptawug.za.net *** Notice -- Received KILL message for d-_-b[w]!d-_-b@dsl-242-200-203.telkomadsl.co.za from ath0 Path: dsl-242-243-203.telkomadsl.co.za!ath0 (gan PWP irc toe, soek
nie spies hier nie)
11:42 !irc.ptawug.za.net *** Notice -- Client exiting: d-_-b[w] (d-_-b@dsl-242-200-203.telkomadsl.co.za) [[irc.ptawug.za.net] Local kill by ath0 (gan PWP irc toe, soek nie spies hier nie)]
11:42 !irc.ptawug.za.net *** Global -- from irc.ptawug.za.net: ath0 used SAMODE #ptawug (+b *d-_-b*!*@*)


^^ abuse of power / human rights violations (\m/ evil)


As for the "politics and personality clashes", this is because PTAWUG = evil wisp dictatorship

[protzkrog]

vrede

[cadavre]

Protzcrog, that nick sounds familiar, u studied in potch?

[protzkrog]

ek het ja,
everyone that wants to discuss the wug in pta - come to irc.ptawug.za.net

[d-_-b]

vrede

Daar was vrede, totdat so paar ptawug mense weer hulle speelgoed uit die kot uit gegooi het.


ek het ja,
everyone that wants to discuss the wug in pta - come to irc.ptawug.za.net

I said it before I will say it again, at the moment there is some personality clashes between PWP and PTAWUG members. I would urge anybody that wants to join the wug to join the two channels #pwp and #ptawug and find out for yourself whats happening in the community. Use the above server irc://irc.ptawug.za.net and if you auto join #ptawug just type "/join #pwp" and you will be on both channels, or you could just use the PWP IRC server irc://irc.pwp.za.net.

For more information an PWP have a look on their website www.pwp.za.net the same goes for PTAWUG www.ptawug.za.net. PWP at the moment covers more the centurion area with a link to JAWUG and PTAWUG covers more the pretoria east area. If you live in the moot area please contact me.

Regards,

[Kloon]

Daar was vrede, totdat so paar ptawug mense weer hulle speelgoed uit die kot uit gegooi het.
Ek wil nou nie krap in julle nonsens nie, maar sover my kennis trek was dit iemand van pwp wat ptwaug geflame het op hierdie forum. Ek dink daai was regtig onnodig gewees. En ek kies nie kante nie, ek se maar net. Hoekom sal een wug nou 'n ander een flame op myadsl? Ons is suppose om mekaar te help en nie uit te haal nie.

[d-_-b]

Ek wil nou nie krap in julle nonsens nie, maar sover my kennis trek was dit iemand van pwp wat ptwaug geflame het op hierdie forum. Ek dink daai was regtig onnodig gewees. En ek kies nie kante nie, ek se maar net. Hoekom sal een wug nou 'n ander een flame op myadsl? Ons is suppose om mekaar te help en nie uit te haal nie.

Kloon, dit was 'n vraag, geen flaming en na die vraag word die speelgoed uit die kot gegooi in irc, waar die regte ding sou gewees het om die vraag met die persoon op te neem wat dit gevra het.

Ek self probeer so neutraal as moontlik bly, en ek stem 100% saam ons moet mekaar help en nie mekaar uithaal nie. Dis hoekom ek ptawug vir Pretoria oos mense aanraai, pwp vir Centurion mense en vra dat enige iemand wat in die moot is en belangstel in wugs met my in aanraking kom.

Groete,

[Kloon]

"Quote:
Originally Posted by ath0 View Post
They are so greedy, taking people's money

So why is PTAWUG using version 2.9.27?"

Sien ek verstaan nie so mooi wat die post "They are so greedy, taking people's money" te doen het met "So why is PTAWUG using version 2.9.27?" As daai nie manier is om ptawug sleg te laat lyk nie dan weet ek nie so mooi nie. Ek hoe sal Th0rn anyway weet watter versions ptawug loop? Hys mos nie op ptawaug netwerk nie.

[d-_-b]

"Quote:
Originally Posted by ath0 View Post
They are so greedy, taking people's money

So why is PTAWUG using version 2.9.27?"

Sien ek verstaan nie so mooi wat die post "They are so greedy, taking people's money" te doen het met "So why is PTAWUG using version 2.9.27?" As daai nie manier is om ptawug sleg te laat lyk nie dan weet ek nie so mooi nie. Ek hoe sal Th0rn anyway weet watter versions ptawug loop? Hys mos nie op ptawaug netwerk nie.

Kloon die regte ding sal wees om die vraag op die regte thread te vra en nie die onsmaaklikheid oor twee threads te smeer nie. So asseblief vra die vraag op WISPs running cracked software (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=75541&page=2).

Groete,

[Kloon]

Hoekom dink jy ek edit dit? Jou storie was hier toe reply ek hier.

[nOss]

If anyone is interested, I have an legal version of 2.9.27, maybe that is what ptawug is using.

[d-_-b]

Hoekom dink jy ek edit dit? Jou storie was hier toe reply ek hier.

If anyone is interested, I have an legal version of 2.9.27, maybe that is what ptawug is using.

Kloon, nOss soos ek reeds gesê het daai gesprek en stelling hoort op WISPs running cracked software. (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=75541&page=2)

Vir ander mense wat belangstel in 'n draadloos gebruikers groep in Pretoria kyk asb na:

www.pwp.za.net
www.ptawug.za.net

Groete,

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG Waverley Highsite up (routerPC and sector), half of the Moot has coverage now, next Moot sector going up in February (hopefully).

All people in the Moot area please plot your locations on www.wug.za.net to check if you have coverage.

Thanks to stew, BazDaddy, Gerhard, Craig and Deon for getting the site up

[protzkrog]

new PTAWUG website up and running, thanks to midic0s and ath0

check www.ptawug.co.za

our IRC server is still a bit b0rked, use hub.jawug.za.net #ptawug for the time being

[louisp]

Lol,

Seems like PTAWUG is too busy to continue with this thread...
Added 4 users in 4 days.

We just can't keep ahead!! All the suppliers are sold out on RB133's

Good Times
Sexy times


:)

[Azriel]

Lol, I know, I struggled to find me a RB!

At least I is connected to PTA now, cool stuff!

[d-_-b]

PWP (http://www.pwp.za.net) and PTAWUG (http://www.ptawug.co.za/) are now linked. :)

Hopefully the two wugs can decide on a central node database to use, as soon as possible!

Regards,

[protzkrog]

www.wug.za.net for all wugs in SA

[Just1f1c4t10N]

Hey guys,

PTAWUG is now expanding so quickly we should all just quit our jobs and do this full time, in a perfect world that is...

The PTAWUG Elardus Park site and PTAWUG Erasmuskloof High Site is going up within the next week or so, meaning that we will now cover Elarduspark, Wingate Park, all adjacent areas and have new clear links with Grand Central!

So if you haven't plotted yourself yet, go to www.wug.za.net immediately and do so! What are you waiting for? No matter if you want to game on the fastest expanding free network system in South Africa, use it to VoIP your chommies or just listen in on the extensive irc debates, plot yourself and get wugging! There are no more excuses!

Anyone interested, no, EVERYONE should contact me and GET ON THE WUG BUS!
Goto www.ptawug.co.za or join us on | irc.ptawug.za.net #ptawug | now.

MSN: just@thenerdcorp.co.za
Skype: mynerd

[ASS_SAZiN`]

Lol,

Seems like PTAWUG is too busy to continue with this thread...
Added 4 users in 4 days.

We just can't keep ahead!! All the suppliers are sold out on RB133's

Good Times
Sexy times


:)

hehe, yeah I had to get the 153, cause there were no 133's. Still trying to find a good spot to put up my kit. Can't wait to connect and join you guys....

[RavenB]

Hi Guys,

Just some info on the Pretoria-Gardens in the Moot.
We are more or less 3 people looking at covering this area in the next few weeks and I myself would like to know in this area if there are some more intersted people so we could plan you guys in before the big start. So contact me directly on JHStander@gmail.com for any info in this area or even interst you might have. I will inform you of possiblities and can you guys mapped.

To the rest of you guys...Great job guys we are really building this network at lightspeed. And YES RB133 sold out but av. in 1 week leadtime..

[ASS_SAZiN`]

HI guys,

Just a quick FYI, http://fischer.org.za/linkup/linkup.png Linkup @ the csir Saturday the 23 Feb. 09:30 - 13:00

A wug meet at the CSIR, come have a look...

[protzkrog]

Lynnwood highsite upgrades happening this month, another 5.8ghz 90 degree sector and a dedicated 5.8ghz grid to the Mooikloof highsite going up :)

[Matyas]

Wow, been getting 800KB/s from high site. Im really impressed with the technology.

Long Live The Wug !!!

[Luke7777]

Lynnwood highsite upgrades happening this month, another 5.8ghz 90 degree sector and a dedicated 5.8ghz grid to the Mooikloof highsite going up :)How's it going with the "other" site ?

[protzkrog]

wag nog in spanning, gaan dalk ons eie toring moet sweis, so kry solank jou welder reg :)

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG meeting on Thursday the 11th

All interested persons welcome, please bring own drinks and meat

please register on http://www.wug.za.net/wugmeet/

[jacauc]

My antenna is aligned better now... :D
Getting 400-500 KB/s (yes... that is a capital B - Bytes)

....and it's not costing a cent... all free and unlimited access to the network. Great stuff IMO

[jacauc]

and that all with 2-5ms latency :D

[hxc87x]

howsit... im staying in a flat virtually right next to uni of pta's main campus... more or less how much would it cost to get everything i need? and what is it that i need?

[acidrain]

howsit... im staying in a flat virtually right next to uni of pta's main campus... more or less how much would it cost to get everything i need? and what is it that i need?

Depends on how much you willing to spend. Could range from R1000 - R3000.
Also your distance from the AP? ( will determine if you need a high or low gain antenna).
What frequency is the highsite running on, if it does only have one frequency range operating.

[protzkrog]

hxc87x, plot your location on www.wug.za.net, then we can check if you have line of sight to a highsite.

Do you have access to the building's roof ?

[Rudi_C]

hxc87x you should go on their irc channel @ irc.ptawug.co.za join #ptawug and speak to the guys there, they a very helpful and have been doing it for a while.

I installed my kit this weekend and the guys helped me with the setup and routing. Just chat with the guys they will be able to answer all your questions. I hope to see you in the the channel soon.

Thanks again guys for all the help and patients you had with all my questions, I really appreciate all you've done so far.......don't think I'm not going to stop asking..........
:D

[louisp]

We had very succesfull WUGmeet last night!!

PTAWUG's growth is amazing!!

One thing though, people did comment about how easy it is and should be for ppl who really know nothing about wifi or IT for that matter to connect!!!

With all the help and IRC etc. anyone can connect.... 2 more High sites are about to be completed adding more coverage.

Next big thing will propably be connecting the Tuks Res to our network!!

www.ptawug.co.za

[GuRu]

Do you guys have any coverage of Cornwall Hill Estate in Irene yet ?

[protzkrog]

GuRu, plot your location on www.wug.za.net, then we can check if you have line of sight to an access point

[th0rn]

GuRu.. Would also recommend plotting yourself on https://wind.pwp.za.net .

If you are on the eastern side of Cornwall Hill you are move likely to have PWP coverage.

[protzkrog]

Brooklyn, Groenkloof, Muckleneuk and parts of Hatfield now covered on 5.8ghz. by the new Groenkloof Highsite.

check out www.ptawug.co.za

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG Coverage map 2008-03-19 : http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4179/ptawugcoverageplanned20nw0.jpg

[protzkrog]

Digging the foundation and building the tower for the new PTAWUG Riveria highsite:

http://www.wug.za.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=6721

[Ryder_JHB]

Seems all you okes were hard at work, digging away! You should have organised VernonK, he could have dug that hole just by mentally visualising it!

[protzkrog]

lekker Cassie!

ek scheme julle moet hom nooit na die Jawug meeting toe, dan kan hy julle verduidelik hoe mens nou EINTLIK wifi netwerke opsit :P :P

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG group - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/group.php?groupid=22

join it now!

[Azriel]

PTAWUG Coverage map 2008-03-19 : http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4179/ptawugcoverageplanned20nw0.jpg
I can't read anything on that map :p

[rebel998]

I wast just looking at some overseas WUG's and see some of them offer cheap internet or e-mail service.

Why do the local guys not do this?

[protzkrog]

because it is illegal, ask ICASA

[rebel998]

When's your next meeting?

[protzkrog]

dont know, middle next month problably

[rebel998]

Where is the Pta-North highsite?

I would like to see if I'll be able to get signal from it?

[protzkrog]

look on the KML, get it from www.wug.za.net and draw a LOS diagram on the site

[rebel998]

Thanx,D.

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG Riveria highsite up and running on 5.8ghz, covering the western part of the Moot, Mountainview, PTA Gardens and the CBD.

Thanks to Yale for the spot for the tower (6m steel), all his hard work, as well as ath0 for couriering the steel and welders, JohanL for his hard work with the power and all the other people that helped to dig the tower foundation in the rocks on the koppie. As well as everyone who donated towards the highsite.

[Project X]

Is there anything near Arcadia /Sunnyside yet?

[protzkrog]

Project X - yes, from Groenkloof and Riveria highsites - you need to plot your location on www.wug.za.net to check line of sight

read the getting started guide on www.ptawug.co.za

[rebel998]

Is there any open source software I can upgrade my ASUS WL-500G Deluxe with to join the wug?:confused:

[protzkrog]

try openWRT or DD-WRT

can the AP do 5.8ghz ?

[Project X]

Project X - yes, from Groenkloof and Riveria highsites - you need to plot your location on www.wug.za.net to check line of sight

read the getting started guide on www.ptawug.co.za

Are you sure? I check the coverage and it doesn't show sunnyside..:(

[protzkrog]

Project X - yes, from Groenkloof and Riveria highsites - WIFI is not exact, it does not stay within bounds or borders, that coverage map is only an APPROXIMATION. You can connect to a highsite if you can SEE it, thus you need to plot yourself on www.wug.za.net so you can do a line of sight calculation.

read the getting started guide on www.ptawug.co.za

[rebel998]

try openWRT or DD-WRT

can the AP do 5.8ghz ?

Unfortunately not.

Looks like I'll have to wait till I can get the right stuff.:(

[Ryder_JHB]

Is there any open source software I can upgrade my ASUS WL-500G Deluxe with to join the wug?:confused:

I have been doing a bit of digging around on this one, and it does seem possible to remove the internal 2.4ghz mini-pci radio, and replace it with a 5.8ghz mini-pci radio. Also, it appears that both openwrt (http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL500G), and dd-wrt (http://www.macsat.com/macsat/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,50/topic,421.msg2542/) are supported on this unit.

A 802.11 abg radio should cost around about R220 or so from companies such as Uniterm (www.dbg.co.za), or Miro (http://www.miro.co.za).

I cannot guarantee that this will work, but the threads I discovered on OpenWRT's site seem to indicate success. If you have a mini-pci card available which you can try, or borrow, rather than buying one, it would definately be worth a shot. You may find a compatible card inside a nearby laptop too.

If possible, give this a shot, and let us know the results?

Keep on Wugging! :D

Thanks! :o

[protzkrog]

ag kyk net daai mooi direct links wat ryder in sy post sit :)

[Ryder_JHB]

ag kyk net daai mooi direct links wat ryder in sy post sit :)

Ek is mos 'n mooi direk link soort van 'n wugger! :D

[protzkrog]

a pic of PTAWUG Faerie Glen highsite - 4 backbone links and 3 sectors providing coverage : FG (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fg20080428hh3.jpg)

[Ryder_JHB]

Nice! We need to get out linky working dude...!

[protzkrog]

HTP - plot jou location op www.wug.za.net om te kyk of jy line of sight het na 'n highsite toe, dan sal jy kan sien of jy 2.4ghz of 5.8ghz nodig het

daar is n guide hoe om dit te doen op - http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG Coverage map updated : http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_5

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG Riveria Highsite

here at PTAWUG we paint the towers the colour of the local rugby team :P

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=231

[Akiru-Nomisata]

PTAWUG Riveria Highsite

here at PTAWUG we paint the towers the colour of the local rugby team :P

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=231



Niiiice!! lol we just need some Horns at the top of the tower!! :P

[BigBear]

Good Day to you all
If i understand correctly the PTA:WUG is:
The PTA-WUG is not a ISP and does not supply internet connectivity,
but it does Act like a large wireless network for:
File-Sharing
Gaming LAN
...
Is that correct,what else does it offer?:confused:

[Ryder_JHB]

Good Day to you all
If i understand correctly the PTA:WUG is:
The PTA-WUG is not a ISP and does not supply internet connectivity,
but it does Act like a large wireless network for:
File-Sharing
Gaming LAN
...
Is that correct,what else does it offer?:confused:

Friends, experimentation, voip, streaming audo, streaming cameras, etc etc etc...

Teaches you lots about Linux, Routing, Servers, PC's, etc etc etc...

Imagine being able to download the latest Fedora Linux 4gb image in 30mins and not using up your internet cap to do it...

Imagine being able to speak to your friends using VOIP for free...

Imagine downloading the latest Windows service pack in minutes, for free...

Think of it as a big lan... anything u can do there, you can do on a wug...

[protzkrog]

VOIP
Anything that can run on TCP/IP
A great learning experience - routing, wifi, etc. - fun hobby.
Networking with other IT people

And a free jean pant if you join today !!! :P hehehe :P

[elabuschagne]

I think the WUG concept is great. I hope to be joining fellow PTA wuggers soon.

For now, I will keep on listing a long list of excuses such as interest rates, cold weather, petrol price, the Zimbabwe situation, etc. to keep Protz off of my back while I procrastinate a bit more . . . ;)

[BigBear]

Thanks it sounds awesome:D
How many of you guys use ut to play LAN games like COD4?
Alot better to play it over this network, than to use up your precious cap.

[Ryder_JHB]

Thanks it sounds awesome:D
How many of you guys use ut to play LAN games like COD4?
Alot better to play it over this network, than to use up your precious cap.

Exactly!

I cant speak for ptawug, but I would say the most we ever had playing cod4 on jawug was about 12.... There are daily cod4, css, tf2, ut2004, war3, dota games etc....

If you join your local wug, you could host your own game server - thats the way it works... everybody helps to build, maintain and improve....

[protzkrog]

COD4 tells me that my PC is too swak to play it, so I dont know, not a big gamer.

[brinkja]

PTAWUG Riveria Highsite

here at PTAWUG we paint the towers the colour of the local rugby team :P

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=231

Ag nee dit is hartseer, ek bly nog net in PTA oor die WUG, maar die hele BlouBul en die toring daardie kleure verf laat my wonder ..

Let's hope the links work better and more stable than what that team plays!

[Vogie]

A picture says a thousand words.
So here is 16,000 words.

Pretoria Noord High Site (http://www.wug.za.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7017&g2_fromNavId=xce11123e)

You don't HAVE to go to the extreme, but sometimes you want to.

[protzkrog]

Pretoria Noord is n ander dorp :P

[Avatar_5]

Pretoria Noord is n ander dorp :P

Verkeerde kant van die verkeerde berg.. :D

Lyk my ek moet my goed ook nou reg kry om op hierdie bootjie te klim.. :)

[protzkrog]

ja, plot jou location op www.wug.za.net en check of jy line of sight het na n highsite

[Avatar_5]

Ek het al lankal, Avatar_5 == Avatar :)
Ek procrastinate net nog so 'n bietjie. Skryf more my laaste eksamen, en sal dan weer meer ernstig wees oor die storie.

[protzkrog]

Is there anything near Arcadia /Sunnyside yet?

I see you are just out of the coverage area from riveria and groenkloof, eish, will have to bounce the signal from somehwere

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG WugMeet 4 - Saturday 5 July in PTA Far North

open to all interested persons and current members

please register on www.wug.za.net/wugmeet/

[Vogie]

Ai dit gaan 'n interresante naweek wees.

Lekker kuier saam die ander wuggers,
heelwat nuwe gesigte om te leer ken,
nuwe High Sites wat die naweek opgesit word,
so paar nuwe routes wat ogestel word.

LEKKER man.

Ek wens ek was betaal om die tipe van goed te doen, in plaas daarvan om heeldag kode te skryf vir ander ou.

[louisp]

En toe mis ek die WugMeet

Flippit

Maar ek hoor dit was 'n groot sukses!

[protzkrog]

Silverton Highsite operational on 5.8ghz, covering Silverton and parts of Meyerspark. Thanks to ath0, SirASZiN and Paradox

[protzkrog]

Erasmusrand Highsite operational on 5.8ghz, covering north western Centurion, Highveld and Irene - please plot your location on www.wug.za.net and check out www.ptawug.co.za

[Desertrat]

Come on people jump on the bandwagon, once your on you will never be able to picture your life without the WUG.

[protzkrog]

85 users connected :) in a year and a few weeks

[Ryder_JHB]

Jan Spies Voice: Dis Lekkerrrrrrr my ou pel Protz! Julle manne kan maar trots wees!

[protzkrog]

123 users connected in 13 months (the North and part of Centurion joined)

[The_Librarian]

Niiiice!! lol we just need some Horns at the top of the tower!! :P

Eye-of-Sauron :eek: :D

[The_Librarian]

123 users connected in 13 months (the North and part of Centurion joined)

Baie goed! :D

[protzkrog]

ja jy moet nou connect dat ons dit 124 kan maak - kom bietjie op IRC en organise die test kit

[fernandopires]

heyya you can add me in im also a member now just gotta get that 2.4 sector working at my cuzins house. Maby tommorow afternoon

[saa044]

141 users and counting. :) Join ptawug irc server, orgenise test kit and connect. :)

[thesones]

What can I say, I luv it!!!!

www.ptawug.co.za

Check it out you'll be glad u did!

[Ryder_JHB]

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/wug-sam2.JPG :D

[protzkrog]

hau wena, watse american is daai, ons nie americans nie!

[Ryder_JHB]

hau wena, watse american is daai, ons nie americans nie!

I thought we discussed this already? Or do you really want me to bring Oom Paul to the party now? :D

[protzkrog]

Oom Paul sal vir jou hard bliksem !

[The_Librarian]

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/wug-sam2.JPG :D

:D

Maak ene met Oom Paul... :D

[protzkrog]

http://www.wug.za.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11080&g2_serialNumber=1

[spiderz]

Bwhahahahahah @ images

[protzkrog]

ons kort ene met Zuma ook

[The_Librarian]

Umzini Wam...

wat is "bring my WUG" in Zoeloe? :D

[protzkrog]

WUGWAM!

[protzkrog]

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=142292

[ASS_SAZiN`]

Was a fun filled day in the sun, after the long hike to the top, we raised the tower! It came out great! Good Job guys, this really was a team effort!

Viva Wug Viva!

[jasweb]

Wens ek kon daar wees.. maar het my eie son issues gehad...

Darem amper klaar gebou (nou kan die krag aanbly en my WUG stabiel funksioneer) :)

Al 1 week op wug en moet se die R2000 se outlay is die moeite werd - by verre :)

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

protz - as ek mag vra - wat kos 'n typical highsite equipment (on average)...

+- vir antennas/RB's/cables en dan

+- vir solar power ens.

wil bietjie die gees begin bou hier in sas0lburg - maar dis nie 'n 1man saak die nie! - community or no go :)

[protzkrog]

kyk daarso - dit hang maar af wat jy op die site sit, hoe groot jy gaan
http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_18

die pryse spring lelik rond met die dollar/R koerse

[methos.methos]

Ek gaan een van die dae julle join. spaar nog net so bietjie vir al die Equipment.

[protzkrog]

lekker, na watse highsite gaan jy connect ?

[methos.methos]

lekker, na watse highsite gaan jy connect ?Mooikloof, ek bly in Mooikloof Ridge Estate

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG & JAWUG combined WugMeet on Saturday 22nd Nov in Kyalami
We want to make this the biggest gathering of wuggers in SA ever.
The meeting will be held in the form of a bring and braai.
Please see www.wug.za.net/wugmeet/ for more info and registration

EVERYONE WELCOME!

[protzkrog]

Constantia Park Highsite - biggest highsite in terms of antennas and radios of any WUG in ZA.

http://www.photobooth.co.za/uploads/914CP_10_antennas.jpg

http://www.photobooth.co.za/uploads/662CP_11_radios.jpg

[tyerone]

Constantia Park Highsite - biggest highsite in terms of antennas and radios of any WUG in ZA.

http://www.photobooth.co.za/uploads/914CP_10_antennas.jpg

http://www.photobooth.co.za/uploads/662CP_11_radios.jpg

hi

where in constantia park is the high site is it near the library/bp garage medicross? and another question can one play xbox over wug are their alot of people doing that??

[protzkrog]

ja tyerone - look on the flatblock there - you will see the antennas at the top

ja, you can play xbox over the wug using a vpn - not many people doing it (as not many people have xboxes) but there are some guys playing.

you can buy equipment from www.scoop.co.za - if you are close to the site a cheap (R1200) 5.8ghz CPE will suffice.

[tyerone]

ja tyerone - look on the flatblock there - you will see the antennas at the top

ja, you can play xbox over the wug using a vpn - not many people doing it (as not many people have xboxes) but there are some guys playing.

you can buy equipment from www.scoop.co.za - if you are close to the site a cheap (R1200) 5.8ghz CPE will suffice.

i live just about 300m from the high site, their are maybe one or two tree in the way wil that effect things??

Thanks

[protzkrog]

cool, well - read this guide and follow the steps - http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11

then buy some kit from www.scoop.co.za on the PTAWUG dealer account (they are in Midrand) and connect :) easy peasy

[tyerone]

cool, well - read this guide and follow the steps - http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11

then buy some kit from www.scoop.co.za on the PTAWUG dealer account (they are in Midrand) and connect :) easy peasy

what would you recommend i buy? simple and the cheapest. like i said im close to high site 300m or so, one or two tree in the way.

thanks for the help...

[protzkrog]

this will work fine and be bloody fast: http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=758

R1134.3 incl VAT

[tyerone]

ok would i have to buy anthing else ie power over ethernet for it? and do people share content over wug other than play games, cause that might be my only use of connecting? that and xbox live,

[protzkrog]

as far as i know the POE adapter is included, just make sure from scoop - you can mail dalton@scoop.co.za for a quote.

ja people use the network for filesharing, gaming, voip, etc - anything that can run on TCP/IP - its a open network - anyone can run or do anything as long as it is non-commercial.

[tyerone]

how safe is it in terms of people trying to hack ur system?? and virus...

[protzkrog]

you are on the internet now, about mmm 100 million people that can hack/break your PC.
there are 183 people connected to PTAWUG.

we have never had a problem like that - PTAWUG are not a bunch of hooligans.

every person on the wug is responsible to keep their antivirus up to date (just like on the internet) as well as firewall or secure their home LAN (just like on the internet).

i only run anti-virus

[remybfg10k]

could you give me your IP please protz ;)

[protzkrog]

nope, connect on IRC - irc.jawug.za.net #ptawug and request an IP there.

from http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11:
Quickstart:
1. Plot location on www.wug.za.net
2. Download KML
3. Calculate possible line of sight
4. Connect on IRC (irc.ptawug.co.za) and discuss your scenario
5. Buy equipment (www.scoop.co.za)
6. Install equipment and connect to the www.ptawug.co.za/Highsite_AntennaDirection SSID
7. Connect on IRC and request IPs
8. Enjoy the wug

from IRC:
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[1]: In order to obtain an IP address for your connection to PTAWUG you need to get hold of a person able to help you.
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[2]: On PTAWUG these people are admin members commonly known as IPBitches.
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[3]: Please remember that these people all have jobs and help new members to connect in their free time.
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[4]: A bit of patience is is therefore required by you before being helped in order to obtain an IP address.
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[5]: The following IPBitches may be contacted on irc in order to setup the HighSite and help you configure your hardware and PC
[08:23] <Frikkie> bitches[6]: Louisza, bashtux, wm, th0rn, BazDaddy and Stew

[remybfg10k]

protz, i was pulling your leg when you said you don't have any protection but antivirus :)

[protzkrog]

202 users connected to PTAWUG from inception on 28 Aug 2007 to 10 Dec 2008.

I would like to thank everyone that helped:

by promoting the network
struggling with routing issues,
carried tools and antennas up mountains
got burnt by the sun fixing highsites
risked life and limb climbing towers to install equipment
did signal tests at prospective users
tanne for organising us our great PTAWUG branded tshirts, hoodies, caps, mugs and stickers
normal users that expand their equipment on their roofs (or put up 15m towers in the backyard) so others can connect through them
our suppliers miro.co.za and scoop.co.za for providing wuggers with easy access to equipment
organisations like myadsl.co.za that took a positive intrest in PTAWUG and helped with promotion and donations
the broes from CTWUG that gave us the idea to post items that we need donations for on the website - http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_18
the guys from Jawug that stood by and helped PTAWUG from the beginning
anyone that did something positive for the network

Building and running PTAWUG is a team effort.

P.S
www.scoop.co.za closes on the 19th of Dec, so you better get your equipment before then and connect!

[spiderz]

protz, i was pulling your leg when you said you don't have any protection but antivirus :)

Protz also have a comdom pulled over his lan cable.... :D

[DenSweep]

A truly wonderful feat achieved here guys! Shows what a bit of teamwork can do!

Well done to every single person involved. No matter how small the contribution, it made a difference. Some gave time, some gave money, some provided laughter, some swore and one gu even donated pizzas!

200 users, next stop 300, then, THE WORLD!

[DenSweep]

Don't delay, join TODAY!

[chubster]

The way South African internet should have been. :D

[Ryder_JHB]

Hats off to all the (pta)wuggers for this amazing achievement!

These guys have really turned ptawug into something to be proud of!

They have set an example as to what "wugging" is really all about!

Geseende Kersfees ptawuggers, en 'n gelukkige nuwe wugjaar!

[DenSweep]

Just remember, there is NO internet on this. As pointed out, it's a TCP/IP network on which you can do almost anything!

What are you waiting for? You know you want to!

Be a man. Do the riight thing!

[louisp]

210 users now.

12 days to go!!!

I wonder how many will be connected by this time next year??

400? 800? 2000?

:)

[louisp]

December's been slow.... Only 216 users now

:)

[protzkrog]

*218

some more will connect this week as the equipment suppliers have opened again today

[dade]

julle kom mooi aan ek skat ctwug trek seker deesdae so by die 80s, ons sal ons sokkies moet optrek.

[louisp]

Lekker dade!!

BUt you have it easy, 1 HS on Tafelberg and you have coverage everywhere!!

:)

[The_Librarian]

Joburg and Pta, at this stage, is connected.

Which prompts the question - how do places like Cape Town, PE and Durban connect as well? :D

One solution would be to ask Telkom/Neotel/Vocadom/MTN/whoever whether they'll sponsor a backhaul link (even if it's 16k) between Gauteng and the other cities... P2P/FTP and HTTP file transfer can be blocked on these links to allow IRC (and other non-intensive traffic) to pass through without any bottlenecks.

Another is that we build and launch our own satellite :p

Nice to see the WUG's growing at a steady rate!

Cheers!

Libs

[BigBear]

I am getting my stuff in order to hopefully join the PTA & JHB wug.
What kind of setup are you guys using now?
I am very close to the PTA-East: CP Point.

[protzkrog]

what kind of setup ? what do you mean ?

[BigBear]

WRT the Hardware 2 connect 2 the Wug Site.
Any Software required to join?

[protzkrog]

we use mikrotik mainly, 4 ppl of the 219 on PTAWUG use WRTs as 2.4ghz is very slow in PTA because of all the noise

no software is required

[BigBear]

Ok, thanks will contact you guys later.

The other Frequency is 2.7 ghz or something.?
Can believe all the noise on 2.4 Ghz, must be crazy.

[protzkrog]

5.8ghz is the other one, best to connect on that

only Constantia Park, Pretoria North and Irene has some 2.4ghz equipment on, the rest is 5.8 only

[chubster]

We need chicks willing to hand out flyers in Cape Town, everybody is flat broke :p

[remybfg10k]

ask Niccia.

[protzkrog]

223 users connected to PTAWUG :)

standard kit (RB433, grid) price from scoop.co.za : R2406.00 incl VAT

the time is now, join join join!

[louisp]

Telkom is screwing with our internet access,

So our IRC servers are not that reliable at this stage :(

BUT you can still join via hub.jawug.za.net

Or just msg me, and I'll sort you out!!

:)

[methos.methos]

Can someone Tell me where exactly Mooilkoof Highsite is? I'm Thinking of Connecting to it.

[protzkrog]

www.wug.za.net -> WugNet -> Wugplotter -> download KML -> open KML with google earth, look for Mooikloof highsite - within 50m radius from the location shown there.

[rebel998]

Protz, wat doen julle vir weerlig? Veral op die highsites? En is daar iets soos n manual? Want ek wil dit graag vir iemand stuur wie se netwerk gereeld deur die weer gemoer word.:D:D:D

[louisp]

Weerlig is 'n probleem. Maar dit lyk nie asof ouens met kit meer geslaan word as ander nie. Wat die beste is? Ek weet nie... Daar is ouens wat beweer dit help om 'n koper draad reguit in die grond in te vat.

Ander beweer dat geen grond draad beter is. Who knows. Die ergste wat nog gebeur het waarvan ek weet is dat ouens hulle kit verlor het, maar die rkenaar en huis was fine.

[protzkrog]

Ons Die Wilgers highsite wat n 6m staal toring op die Bronberg is, is n ideale weerlig aantrekker, maar daai toring is so goed en diep ge-earth hy word nie geslaan nie, wel nog nie. Ek het al van my woonstel af gesien hoe die weerlig herhaaldelik langs hom slaan op die berg, maar nooit hom direk nie. So goeie diep earthing is die beste manier om weerlig te keer.

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

het julle manne al geconsider om 'n internet page te maak wat wys of highsites up&running is of nie..

hier is manne wat wug wil join maar wat moet wag vir feedback of sekere punte op of af is..

net 'n suggestion dalk
:)

cheerz

[spiderz]

Kom vra in die IRC... daars altyd n andwoord beskikbaar.
:D

[rebel998]

Protz, hoe reel ek dat julle kom toets vir sein?

Ekt nou uiteindelik n 29db antenna gekry.:D

[protzkrog]

[OUPA]MrNutz - alles is aan unless stated otherwise - IRC topic het details in.

SCOOP has specials on different WUG kits at the moment : http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/index.php?cPath=49_78
WUG-K5 is the standard PTAWUG kit - everything is included except the CAT5 you need from the routerboard to your pc/switch and the pole and bracket.

[protzkrog]

Protz, hoe reel ek dat julle kom toets vir sein?

Ekt nou uiteindelik n 29db antenna gekry.:D

as jy die routerboard en antenna het kan jy mos self scan ? - stel net radio se country op South Africa, klim op die dak, en scan.

[protzkrog]

All persons who are located in Hatfield, Hillcrest, Arcardia, Brooklyn, Groenkloof, Hazelwood, Muckleneuk - please have a look at the new Hatfield highsite - it's plotted on www.wug.za.net so you can check LOS.

We still need about R3000 in donations to do the install - http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_29

[Abraham]

Yeah! HF highsite planned to cover the WHOLE of hatfield! Most of PTA is central is also covered.

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Abraham

[protzkrog]

PTAWUG usercount now stands at 322, thats 100 new users in the last three months, more than one user a day that joined. We count a user as a house that has a wireless link to PTAWUG, thus there can be more people that use the network, but 322 wireless links to the network from houses/buildings.
One amazing thing is that the network infrastructure grows and expands almost automatically as the users get more - normal clients put up equipment to broadcast signal as well, or they connect to a second highsite and provide redundancy on the network.

Thanks to mybroadband for allowing us to use this forum to promote the free networks in South Africa and also supporting us by writing articles and donating towars highsites.

Hatfield highsite is now online, stew and manifesto got the backbone link up from Waterkloof Glen highsite, yesterday afternoon. The highsite covers the central Pretoria area on 5.8ghz. Thanks to Abraham and FoeFFie who worked hard to get the site up as well as everyone who donated towards the hardware.

[Bizkit87]

Hi there

I want to get connected to the PTAWUG, so, i've read up on what i need to do, so i'm sure you guys will be hearing alot from me in the next couple of weeks ... (hopefully)

I live in a complex in centurion, if other units are also interested, can we both share this wireless connection?

[d-_-b]

I live in a complex in centurion, if other units are also interested, can we both share this wireless connection?

Yes, if they can connect to you via Ethernet or by adding a extra radio with a omni antenna to your routerboard, but this will increase the price of the gear you need to buy.

Regards,

[protzkrog]

Bizkit, have you plotted your location on www.wug.za.net and checked line of sight to highsites ? As well as taken pictures from your roof and uploaded on www.wug.za.net/gallery ?

[Bizkit87]

Bizkit, have you plotted your location on www.wug.za.net and checked line of sight to highsites ? As well as taken pictures from your roof and uploaded on www.wug.za.net/gallery ?

I'm on the first floor, and there is one apartment above me, so i first need to get permision from the board bla bla bla....

will do the plotting tonight, see if i can pick it up, and will post pics tonight, thnx for the help so far :)

[protzkrog]

standard wug kit (RB433, R52 radio, 27dbi grid, enclosure, poe, psu, etc.) at R2150 incl VAT at miro.co.za at the moment, the R/$ rate is helping us.

can just mail justin@miro.co.za or christiaan@miro.co.za to order on the PTAWUG or Jawug dealer accounts

348 users on PTAWUG currently, almost at the 350 mark :) aiming for 550 to 650 by the end of the year

[Bizkit87]

cool, but waiting for feedback form body corporate.....

is the PTAWUG linked with the JHBWUG?

[protzkrog]

ja PTAWUG and Jawug is linked, for over a year and a half now

[Ryder_JHB]

cool, but waiting for feedback form body corporate.....

is the PTAWUG linked with the JHBWUG?

That's a big Aye-Aye Cap'n! :D

[Bizkit87]

cool, will definately try and join, if bc say its ok :(

but the can take a while,

should i want more people to join in the complex i stay, what would the extra cost be? for them to be able to connect to the link as well.

Maybe if i can tell the bc that the connection won't just be for me, and be open to who ever else wants to join (its a huge complex) they will say yes quicker? haha

but how many people can connect extra and what would the cost be?

[Gaz{M}]

Off topic - is it at all possible to stick to English in this thread? My brain can't switch between English and Afrikaans mid-sentence or for every 5th word. It hurts... :)

I would also like to know the additional cost of setting up a 2.4Ghz omni for sharing with the complex...

[protzkrog]

hau wena, jy moet mooi lees my brother

check www.scoop.co.za for prices
R52 radio, pigtail, LMR and omni

[laubscherc]

Eventually rec eived the logon info from wug.za.net. I have LOS to several sites. I am right in guessing that the closest lest used will give better bandwidth as well as better bandwidth to whoever connects to me?

[protzkrog]

laubscherc, nie noodwendig nie, dit hang af van jou seinsterkte, sein-kwaliteit - die hoeveelheid mense wat aan dieselfde antenna as jy connect op die highsite. Dit is maar trial and error - scan en connect en kyk hoe dit gaan.

[laubscherc]

OK, ek is 200 meter van die erasmusrand Highsite af. Ek gaan vanmiddag op die paal klim en kyk of ek 'n foto kan neem.

[protzkrog]

Erasmusrand broadcast nie, dis n backbone only highsite, users kan nie daaraan connect nie. Jy behoort Die Wilgers of Zwartkop of Lynnwood wel te kry

[laubscherc]

Miskien Zwartkop, die ander twee is aan die ander kant van die koppie. Daar is heelwat wat ek kan raaksien op LOS. Ek sal kyk of ek hulle kan sien met die kamera en dan die foto's aanstuur as ek nie seker is nie. My hardeware kom maandag en dan is dit heeltyd speeltyd!

[laubscherc]

OK, Dit lyk asof aan hierdie kant geen (naby) access point is nie. Hoe gaan ek te werk om een op te sit? Ek het wel konneksie na 'n paar sites toe, (Ek sit bo-op Waterkloofrif) en kan die Westekant van Waterkloofrif asook monumentpark.

[d-_-b]

OK, Dit lyk asof aan hierdie kant geen (naby) access point is nie. Hoe gaan ek te werk om een op te sit? Ek het wel konneksie na 'n paar sites toe, (Ek sit bo-op Waterkloofrif) en kan die Westekant van Waterkloofrif asook monumentpark.

laubscherc Neem so paar "line of sight" fotos en sit dit op die Wug Gallery (http://www.wug.za.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5738) en kom praat met ons op IRC (http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_3).

Groete,

Ludo

[protzkrog]

laubscherc - afstand is nie n groot probleem nie, daar link ouens uit Kempton Park uit na Rietvallei toe (met standard kit) - so as jy mooi line of sight het na n highsite toe is jy sorted.

[Drakus_ZAR]

It has been said over a hundred times, but I still need to say that you guys are doing an amazing job. Hope to get Harties connected to the PTAWug soon. ;)

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

is 'n rb411 rerig helemal useless of kan die ding darem die job doen? of is die kritiek eerder dat 'n panel op 'n rb411 underperform vs 'n grid op 'n rb411?

[protzkrog]

RB411 kan die job doen, maar hy kan net EEN job doen, en dis die probleem - kan nie expand nie, kan nie mesh nie, kan nie nog coverage maak nie.

Die rede hoekom PTAWUG se goed groei is omdat ons die RB433 aanbeveel en baie mense dan aan nog n highsite link of coverage maak vir ander.

RB433, R52 radio, 27dbi 5.8 grid, enclosure, poe, etc is R1838 excl by miro nou op die wug special.

btw MrNutz, ek was gister daar by SASOL in jou valley, ek het die ou stoorsilo ding wat julle highsite is gesien.

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

aaitsa - wat jy by sasol gaan doen - hulle wonderlike geure gaan snuffel :)

ja erm - ons sukkel ons gaaijas suur om mense te kry om belang te stel..lyk my as jy suid van die vaal bly bestee jy nie meer as R500 aan toerusting nie..mense dink nog hier om 'n pc te koop vir meer as R4000 is malligheid...

ja...what can i say :)

ons setup behoort !$@!$!@ reg te loop einde die maand - dan wil ek met xarion chat - klink my platperg na ons silo toe is 'n moontlikheid