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regardtv

22-10-2004, 11:42 AM

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I just took receipt of a 1800Mhz UT (ethernet+usb)...

Will keep everyone posted.

LethalChicken

22-10-2004, 11:51 AM

Can you pick up any good radio stations on it .. I mean just incase the internet service is up to **** ?

We are Telkom - Resistance is Futile - You will be Assimilated

rebel

22-10-2004, 12:04 PM

I guess that makes u another tester right? How did u get to be one?

loosecannon

22-10-2004, 12:22 PM

full report expected on my desk in the morning ... :)

martin

22-10-2004, 01:34 PM

...in duplicate, I'd like a copy too. [:)]

All that I ask is that you try out a Mac, coke and fries - martin

sihen

22-10-2004, 01:46 PM

nice regardtv,

The UTD's rock.

Daveogg

22-10-2004, 03:40 PM

We need a picture to prove its real.

Arthur

22-10-2004, 04:47 PM

Got mine today, too (desktop unit). Just waiting for the logon details... I can see a full weekend ahead.

sihen

22-10-2004, 09:31 PM

Arthur, i gave you login details didnt I?

TheRoDent

22-10-2004, 09:56 PM

Got mine today too, got my login after phoning friendly chaps at the helpdesk, and the guy that called me back (within 10 minutes) give my my account details, and said that the Radius server would take 10-15 minutes to update.

1. They phoned me back.
2. They did what was requested
3. They know what a radius server is...

whoa.

The signal on 1.8ghz looks much improved.

Edit: here's the pic to prove [:D]

http://rodent.za.net/gallery/miscellaneous/IM000264

<center><h6> MyWireless <s>Hacks</s> Tweaks & Tech Info (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) || Have you checked the fawking FAQ? (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) Tired of Sentech's bad service? Want to compare speeds? We at least listen... (http://poopband.co.za/)</h6></center>

TheRoDent

22-10-2004, 10:21 PM

Hmmm.... so, what speed is this thing then? That's my standard download from tucows.is.co.za showing here... (oops, no it's not) It's actually from a sourceforge.net international mirror.

[:(]
http://rodent.za.net/gallery/miscellaneous/hmm

<center><h6> MyWireless <s>Hacks</s> Tweaks & Tech Info (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) || Have you checked the fawking FAQ? (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) Tired of Sentech's bad service? Want to compare speeds? We at least listen... (http://poopband.co.za/)</h6></center>

TheRoDent

22-10-2004, 10:45 PM

The standard RoDent test reveals:

--22:46:08-- http://tucows.is.co.za/files4/DCPlusPlus-0.401.exe
=> `DCPlusPlus-0.401.exe'
Resolving tucows.is.co.za... done.
Connecting to tucows.is.co.za[196.4.160.77]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1,717,652 [application/octet-stream]

40% [==============> ] 701,441 18.40K/s ETA 00:53

<center><h6> MyWireless <s>Hacks</s> Tweaks & Tech Info (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) || Have you checked the fawking FAQ? (http://rodent.za.net/MyWireless) Tired of Sentech's bad service? Want to compare speeds? We at least listen... (http://poopband.co.za/)</h6></center>

regardtv

22-10-2004, 11:20 PM

For those wondering - the service has not OFFICIALLY launched AFAIK ;-)

It's just that the current testers (2.3Ghz) were offered early access onto the network.

What I appreciate it the approach taken:
1) They've provided details of what they are doing
2) How long they expect things to take
3) Seem genuinely interested to get feedback

sihen

23-10-2004, 02:39 AM

thanks regardtv for the good words, we are really trying to provide a good services that people can enjoy :)

rebel

23-10-2004, 07:09 PM

sihen, pls make sure it's cheaper than Suxtech.

nocilah

24-10-2004, 04:55 PM

My bug question is can they maintain bandwidth when the masses get iBurst? Or are they going to have
another Senetch implosion?

well iBurst I wish the best of luck and cant wait till I can get one!!!!!

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

arf9999

24-10-2004, 05:50 PM

Regardt,

With the 1.8MHz modem how is your connection?..you aren't exactly in a dark green area as I remember....

Sold my soul to the great Satan: Telkom ADSL. Yes they're evil but still better than Sentech

regardtv

24-10-2004, 11:24 PM

hehee ... the tower that's supposed to cover me isn't even live yet ;-)

1.8 GHz (plus a few extra towers) kicks the living daylights out of the origional 2.3Ghz gear I was testing ...

While it's early days I am quite hopefull. My approach right now is simple - I can have access to a service that is currently very good without being bound to a 24month contract from hell (and little/no service delivery).

ReeFeR

25-10-2004, 01:17 AM

Iburst is great!! Finally we have a broadband provider that actually cares about the service:)

hArTh

25-10-2004, 09:03 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ReeFeR
 Iburst is great!! Finally we have a broadband provider that actually cares about the service:)
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Whatever [|)] ... Call me back when they have at least 2k users. Then we'll know if their service is going to be worthwhile. I can't believe people are falling into the early-adopter-performance-is-orgasmic trap only 6 months after being burned by Sucktech.

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za

lewstherin

25-10-2004, 11:51 AM

I echo Harth's sentiment...I'm going ADSL until next year sometime, when I can see significant proof that Iburst is a sustainable service...

Besides if Iburst proves to be good and maintains service levels as it grows, Hellkom will probably have to change their ADSL pricing, which means I score anyway [:)]

Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the SA consumer needs to make it happen

hArTh

25-10-2004, 01:58 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lewstherin
 I echo Harth's sentiment...I'm going ADSL until next year sometime, when I can see significant proof that Iburst is a sustainable service...

Besides if Iburst proves to be good and maintains service levels as it grows, Hellkom will probably have to change their ADSL pricing, which means I score anyway [:)]

Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the SA consumer needs to make it happen
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

hehe... Let me echo your sentiments in turn. I'd love to keep ADSL if at all possible. At a more reasonable price naturally [}:)]

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za

regardtv

25-10-2004, 01:58 PM

My appoach is somewhat different lewstherin...

As there is currently no contract I pay month by month ... If the service degrades extensively I need to sell the modem ... that's it ... no fighting/bitching/complaining ....

While ADSL is certainly an option for some I want the mobility a wireless offering affords.

After having had my fingers burnt with my previous provider (*cough*) I am cautious but optimistic at present. I would suggest to most that it seems a viable service but as with everything in SA - give it time...

Just remember that iBurst only goes "public" (AFAIK) in March or so next year - these guys certainly seem to want to do it "right". And with such an attitude I am willing to provide my input,support and admiration.

Sabre

25-10-2004, 03:04 PM

Regard,

What are the pings like to saix.net? Can Iburst be used for gaming?

Sabre

AcidRaZor

25-10-2004, 05:07 PM

TheRodent, only 20 odd kb/s? Hmmm... where is this 123kb/s I saw from sihen and the like?

Or are you on a lower package... and what are those pings like gawd dammit!! :) We all know I adopt early and get my ass hairs singed off by everyone...


Selling my soul to Telkom for better internet speeds.

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while (Me.Alive)
{
try
{
Me.Drink(Alcohol.Any);
}
catch (HeaveException h)
{
Me.PrayToCeramicGod();
Me.Promise("Never again");
}
}
Me.Dispose();

sihen

01-11-2004, 10:50 AM

Ping statistics for 196.25.1.200:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 127ms, Maximum = 142ms, Average = 135ms

Just remmeber this package was not designed for gaming!!!! this package is for the average person whos surfs the net.

it is not for downloaders,gamers etc..

adrianl

01-11-2004, 04:37 PM

ping an international ip address please.

outsourcing IT Solutions

hArTh

01-11-2004, 06:47 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sihen
 Ping statistics for 196.25.1.200:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 127ms, Maximum = 142ms, Average = 135ms

Just remmeber this package was not designed for gaming!!!! this package is for the average person whos surfs the net.

it is not for downloaders,gamers etc..
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Oh I see ...

You're going to introduce more packages later with magically lower pings just for gamers ? [:o)]

PS: Downloaders don't give a damn about latency.

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za
Looking for something better than IE?
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bb_matt

01-11-2004, 10:55 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sihen

Just remmeber this package was not designed for gaming!!!! this package is for the average person whos surfs the net.

it is not for downloaders,gamers etc..
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Then iBurst are obviously way out of touch with the market.

Every 'average user' I know is on dialup because it costs them so little and they really don't want anything else. Of course, I don't have any statistics apart from the people I know. Out of 100 people, 15 people I know are interested in the Internet to a small degree and only 5 of those are regular users. The rest express no interest at all in products like MyWireless or iBurst. It's an older age group, which explains why.

They have a fixed landline at home/soho and quite honestly don't care about the internet, except for getting email - most of them don't even surf the net !

Then you get the business users in larger offices who are a bit more savvy. Depending on the company size, they are on Diginet, IDSN or ADSL or a combination - iBurst means nothing to them.
An IT guy I know who maintains a network for about 150 people wouldn't touch wireless technology like this with a bargepole right now - tried and tested technology is an absolute must have.

So who do we have left who would actually like to use a service like this ?

Gamers and Downloaders - it doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand this ! - this is the market crying out for decent services and it's a huge market just waiting to be tapped. The younger generation want fast access and as much downloading and gaming as they can lay thier grubby little mits on.

iBurst could make this work if they just use thier nogins. There's a market waiting to be filled by a company with the balls to compete with ADSL for heavy internet users - the person who downloads and surfs a lot. Sure, gaming is out of the question because of the technology and latency issues.

With a LOGICAL cap in place, they can handle the network abuse.

I can't believe that they think the service it stands is going to compete with ADSL ? - I mean, look at this for instance :-

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">All other applications will be restricted to a maximum of 64kbps burst rate.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's just stupid, it really is. So all you get at top speed that's useful is mail, www and ftp ? - it's rubbish. I don't know ANYONE who would want this over ADSL, except because they have no choice or because they don't want to do business with Telkom.

iBurst are out of thier minds and have misread a market that could give them far better profit in the long run.
Of course, it's possible they may release some better packages in the future, but why not now ? - my guess is bandwidth costs ? [xx(]

sihen

02-11-2004, 08:19 AM

Adrianl

Ping statistics for 64.233.161.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 330ms, Maximum = 370ms, Average = 348ms

VQuest

02-11-2004, 08:33 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bb_matt
I don't know ANYONE who would want this over ADSL, except because they have no choice or because they don't want to do business with Telkom.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I definitely don't want to do business with Telkom. I'll be the first to jump ship when we are offered a good alternative. But these guys are just plain stupid and seem to be a carbon copy of Sentech. Firstly, you don't start a business unless you have enough capital to get it off the ground properly. And secondly, when starting a business, you look at the long term plan and not at how quickly you can start making a HUGE profit. You use your head, start slowly. The more customers you can bring in the better service you can offer. And to ensure you keep those customers happy, you offer a good service. Remember, a happy customer is a loyal customer. (Usually.) I know I am.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
iBurst are out of thier minds and have misread a market that could give them far better profit in the long run.
Of course, it's possible they may release some better packages in the future, but why not now ? - my guess is bandwidth costs ? [xx(]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Exactly. Whats the point in releasing better packages later? Why not offer them now so that they can bring in more customers from the start. And if they don't have enough bandwidth, they should not have started this business in the beginning.

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United we stand!
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dorris

02-11-2004, 01:45 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Ping statistics for 196.25.1.200:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 127ms, Maximum = 142ms, Average = 135ms
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
sorry dyl, I hate to jump on the bandwagon of complainers, but
WHAT THE FSCK
up till now, I was very impressed with iBurst technology, I've generally heard from most users that there local latency was always sub 70ms, but this was all before presubscription, and maybe it was slightly exagerated by those users!

Regardt, have you been plotting the service on smokeping, I would be interested in checking the graphs of the last 3 months.

I remember another service that seemed quite similiar, until more users hopped on board. I'm not sure how many users are currently subscribed, but that degredation in latency is unacceptable for initial rollout.
It simply shows how quickly things will degrade on the medium once 5000 users are online!
I hope i'm wrong !
only time will tell.

sihen

02-11-2004, 02:50 PM

dorris just remember im sitting at the SABC and getting signal from Sandton which is probably around 13K's away.

hArTh

02-11-2004, 03:57 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sihen
 dorris just remember im sitting at the SABC and getting signal from Sandton which is probably around 13K's away.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Radio waves travel at the speed of light son [:D]

13/3*10^5 = 0.04 ms

Pure distance is a relatively small component of the ~100ms iBurst latency.

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za
Looking for something better than IE?
www.mozilla.org/products/firefox

chop

05-11-2004, 10:30 AM

hArTh, do you perhaps know why all these wireless technologies have such bad ping times? Or anyone else?

reech

05-11-2004, 10:57 AM

Dare I suggest encryption and key swapping?