Bens
09-11-2004, 09:39 AM
Yo guys world of warcraft open beta has begun. Are any of you gonna be playing it? I was in the stress test and I really enjoyed it, lets hope it comes here ;)
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Chris
09-11-2004, 01:40 PM
Sorry, to burst your bubble but it <b>won't</b> becoming here because of the following.
- It's a MMORPG so you have to pay a subscription service
- The servers will be international and that will be bad lag
- -=SGS=- nor MWEB won't host it because they have to pay for server rental, which they won't do.
Counting down...
123 days till the end of Hellkom
- It's a MMORPG so you have to pay a subscription service
- The servers will be international and that will be bad lag
- -=SGS=- nor MWEB won't host it because they have to pay for server rental, which they won't do.
Counting down...
123 days till the end of Hellkom
Rath
26-11-2004, 02:43 PM
Actually, this is incorrect.
I know this thread is old, but there's some bad thinking in this country with regards to MMO's. SA is a small market (the entire continent of Africa even), which is the main reason we are not specifically targetted in any MMO marketing. It just doesn't make business sense.
They won't ever be hosted locally, but that does not mean we cannot play them.
Personally I've been playing MMO's for about 5 or 6 years now - all on overseas servers. I've played WoW/SWG/EQ/AC/UO and AO. The connections I've used have been 56k modems, ISDN 64k, ISDN 128k and Sentech. The lag I've gotten has not been that bad, except for when I was on Sentech. My lag using ISDN was in the 600 range, which is very playable and not even noticable. The vast majority of MMO's are designed to be latency tolerant to a degree (planetside may be the exception). It's not like playing Counterstrike or any of the FPS's.
A few friends of mine and I are big MMO players, have been for a long time. We're currently playing EQ2 and EVE Online, but are pretty keen to play WoW. Blizzard has introduced some measures recently that are designed to filter all EU players to the EU servers, and US players to the US servers. They have said that they are specifically using billing info as the mechanism, so if you do not have an american billing address, you cannot play on the US servers. However, we're working on ways to get around that. There's no word yet on if they're using IP filtering or not.
We discuss most of this stuff at http://www.arcaneer.com/forum/ so stop by there in a week or 2 if you're interested in this stuff. We should have a definite answer on if we can play or not soon. We've got a pre-ordered copy of WoW on the way, so we'll see what happens.
Anyway, hope that clears up any misconceptions.
I know this thread is old, but there's some bad thinking in this country with regards to MMO's. SA is a small market (the entire continent of Africa even), which is the main reason we are not specifically targetted in any MMO marketing. It just doesn't make business sense.
They won't ever be hosted locally, but that does not mean we cannot play them.
Personally I've been playing MMO's for about 5 or 6 years now - all on overseas servers. I've played WoW/SWG/EQ/AC/UO and AO. The connections I've used have been 56k modems, ISDN 64k, ISDN 128k and Sentech. The lag I've gotten has not been that bad, except for when I was on Sentech. My lag using ISDN was in the 600 range, which is very playable and not even noticable. The vast majority of MMO's are designed to be latency tolerant to a degree (planetside may be the exception). It's not like playing Counterstrike or any of the FPS's.
A few friends of mine and I are big MMO players, have been for a long time. We're currently playing EQ2 and EVE Online, but are pretty keen to play WoW. Blizzard has introduced some measures recently that are designed to filter all EU players to the EU servers, and US players to the US servers. They have said that they are specifically using billing info as the mechanism, so if you do not have an american billing address, you cannot play on the US servers. However, we're working on ways to get around that. There's no word yet on if they're using IP filtering or not.
We discuss most of this stuff at http://www.arcaneer.com/forum/ so stop by there in a week or 2 if you're interested in this stuff. We should have a definite answer on if we can play or not soon. We've got a pre-ordered copy of WoW on the way, so we'll see what happens.
Anyway, hope that clears up any misconceptions.
Bens
27-11-2004, 03:47 PM
Yo Rath thx for the reply yeah i will check those forums out i definately wanna try and get this game. Let me now if we will be able to play it in SA. Thx again
Chris
27-11-2004, 08:42 PM
This is why we <b> won't</b> get WoW.
http://www.nag.co.za/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7292&sid=2489f014ad86ed26d20d604a427f8a4d
Read first post.
Running around, catching a cheetah (without a gun) is like resistance against Telkom - futile.
http://www.nag.co.za/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7292&sid=2489f014ad86ed26d20d604a427f8a4d
Read first post.
Running around, catching a cheetah (without a gun) is like resistance against Telkom - futile.
Rath
28-11-2004, 08:27 PM
The post that you point out states that we won't be getting local servers for WoW. This is true, and I agree, as I said above. He's saying nothing new. It's also completely irrelevant because, unless you have a Sentech connection, you can play on US and European servers anyway. To sum it up: We do not need local servers to play MMO's like WoW (assuming they do not do IP filtering for WoW).
paulo
09-12-2004, 01:42 PM
I been playing on the US server since release date on my ISDN 64k Dial, no problems what so ever.
Bens
10-12-2004, 03:46 PM
Yo paulo where did you get your copy of WoW from ?
paulo
13-12-2004, 02:54 PM
A friend the travels allot bought me a copy from the states and e-mail the reg key
karkas
14-12-2004, 12:04 AM
My copy is coming end december - are u playing on ISDN paulo?
Rath
18-12-2004, 01:40 PM
Karkas,
Where did you order your copy from?
Can you believe that the Blizzard online shop doesn't ship to SA - but they ship to Angola and Zimbabwe no problem?
Where did you order your copy from?
Can you believe that the Blizzard online shop doesn't ship to SA - but they ship to Angola and Zimbabwe no problem?
karkas
20-12-2004, 11:10 PM
Rath, my sister is coming to visit (works in florida @ the moment) - so it is a non-standard import job ;P
Btw, on whot server are all u SA peeps playing wow hanging out?
Btw, on whot server are all u SA peeps playing wow hanging out?
karkas
20-12-2004, 11:13 PM
they ship to Zimbabwe?? ... Zimbabwe?!!!! - wtf - if bread costs u a fortune, whot must bandwidth cost....
koosbeer
29-12-2004, 04:55 PM
This is interesting. I only discovered this thread now! Damn!
Where can we get WOW?
Paulo: Is it working fine from SA?
Please give the server where all the SA peeps hang out!
played the beta, loved it to pieces (played every day and night - when working through the beta)
Paulo: how do you pay the monthly sub?
Where can we get WOW?
Paulo: Is it working fine from SA?
Please give the server where all the SA peeps hang out!
played the beta, loved it to pieces (played every day and night - when working through the beta)
Paulo: how do you pay the monthly sub?
Chris
29-12-2004, 07:00 PM
Koosbeer, from reading from the official WoW website, it says that if you want to play on a EU server, you must have a EU billing address (so if you don't live there, you must have relatives there)
I can't answer the other questions because I haven't played WoW in BETA or normally.
P.S - The launch date for WoW is sometime in March for the EU.
I can't answer the other questions because I haven't played WoW in BETA or normally.
P.S - The launch date for WoW is sometime in March for the EU.
sybawoods
29-12-2004, 09:57 PM
There are probably about 100 South Africans playing WoW on US servers at the moment. The biggest South African guild has over 40 members, and is ranked 10th on the Stormrage server. It is quite possible to play from South Africa. You will need:
- beta copy (which patches to the full retail client)
- a valid account / cd key
For details on how to register with a valid .za credit card pm me. A lot more details about how to hook up from South Africa can be found at:
Prophecy WoW forums (http://new.prophecy.co.za/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=wow)
SGS WoW forums (http://games.saix.net/cgi-bin/sgsbb/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SF;f=199)
If you do dome browsing in those forums, you'll find contact details for local suppliers of account keys and game-time codes (once registered with your c/c, you get 30 days free. Additional time - 60 days - can be purchased by entering a game-time code)
Once you're hooked up, look me up:
My in-game profile (http://www.wowrankings.com/viewb.htm?name=Timbawood&s_id=87)
Our guild profile (http://www.wowrankings.com/guild_profile.htm?name=Flame%20of%20Anduril&s_id=87)
Link to local guild forum (http://www.ikonstruct.co.uk/wow/)
Latency issues are virtually non-existant provided you have a good ISDN connection, or either shaped or unshaped ADSL (384 or 512). 56k dialups have reported issues when they enter heavily populated terrains.
- beta copy (which patches to the full retail client)
- a valid account / cd key
For details on how to register with a valid .za credit card pm me. A lot more details about how to hook up from South Africa can be found at:
Prophecy WoW forums (http://new.prophecy.co.za/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=wow)
SGS WoW forums (http://games.saix.net/cgi-bin/sgsbb/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SF;f=199)
If you do dome browsing in those forums, you'll find contact details for local suppliers of account keys and game-time codes (once registered with your c/c, you get 30 days free. Additional time - 60 days - can be purchased by entering a game-time code)
Once you're hooked up, look me up:
My in-game profile (http://www.wowrankings.com/viewb.htm?name=Timbawood&s_id=87)
Our guild profile (http://www.wowrankings.com/guild_profile.htm?name=Flame%20of%20Anduril&s_id=87)
Link to local guild forum (http://www.ikonstruct.co.uk/wow/)
Latency issues are virtually non-existant provided you have a good ISDN connection, or either shaped or unshaped ADSL (384 or 512). 56k dialups have reported issues when they enter heavily populated terrains.
koosbeer
30-12-2004, 07:39 AM
You da man sybaweed! I'll for sure look you guys up!
Fanx
Fanx
Blackhand
03-01-2005, 09:26 AM
The problem with internationally hosted MMORPGs is when you use ADSL, everything is dandy in the beginning of the month, but when you get capped, don't even bother.
I would love to play WoW, even if it is international and my ping is a worse than what it should be if I was playing a local server. The problem lies not with Blizzard and its unwillingness to give us a local server ( because honestly the market here for MMORPGs is way to small compared to elsewhere ), the fault lies with Telkom and their damn stingy 3 gig cap!
Infact if you take it further, if there was no Telkomonopoly here, the market might infact be large enough to allow for a local server due to lower tarrifs for faster internet.
Oh well, we will just have to see what the future brings, hopefully alot less of Telskom!
I would love to play WoW, even if it is international and my ping is a worse than what it should be if I was playing a local server. The problem lies not with Blizzard and its unwillingness to give us a local server ( because honestly the market here for MMORPGs is way to small compared to elsewhere ), the fault lies with Telkom and their damn stingy 3 gig cap!
Infact if you take it further, if there was no Telkomonopoly here, the market might infact be large enough to allow for a local server due to lower tarrifs for faster internet.
Oh well, we will just have to see what the future brings, hopefully alot less of Telskom!
GougedEye
04-01-2005, 11:19 AM
Hiya guys
Anyone in the Johannesburg area have a copy of the client? The beta does not seem to be available for download anymore.
Thanks
Anyone in the Johannesburg area have a copy of the client? The beta does not seem to be available for download anymore.
Thanks
Bens
05-01-2005, 01:56 PM
Yo
Yeah i got the open beta install if you need it
let me know
Yeah i got the open beta install if you need it
let me know
karkas
08-01-2005, 01:50 AM
mmm so some sa ppl playin on Nur'Zul server and some on Stormrage - whoulda been great if we could pick a server for all the sa ppl to join. As for myself i will start playing later today, probably on stormrage: look for a little gnome called krkaz ;P
twixt
09-01-2005, 05:42 PM
Could somebody in Durban help me get hold of a copy of the WoW client?
sybawoods
09-01-2005, 07:25 PM
mmm so some sa ppl playin on Nur'Zul server and some on Stormrage - whoulda been great if we could pick a server for all the sa ppl to join. As for myself i will start playing later today, probably on stormrage: look for a little gnome called krkaz ;P
Nur'Zul is PvP (Player vs Player) while Stormrage is PvE (Player vs Environment). On PvE servers it's possible to go PvP provided both parties agree - you turn on a "PvP flag". On PvP servers your flag is on automatically all the time. Personally I prefer PvE since you have the best of both worlds, but it's all personal choice in the end. Particularly with our crappy international latency, you will be at an immediate disadvantage going PvP i.m.o.
Nur'Zul is PvP (Player vs Player) while Stormrage is PvE (Player vs Environment). On PvE servers it's possible to go PvP provided both parties agree - you turn on a "PvP flag". On PvP servers your flag is on automatically all the time. Personally I prefer PvE since you have the best of both worlds, but it's all personal choice in the end. Particularly with our crappy international latency, you will be at an immediate disadvantage going PvP i.m.o.
koosbeer
10-01-2005, 12:51 AM
is there any sa guilds on the stormrage servers? any horde guilds?
Strobemeister
10-01-2005, 07:57 PM
I think i'm gonna have to sign up. Sounds great. Except for the download on my isdn line. Anyone in Ape Town-S/West got a copy. Have car, will travel :)
karkas
10-01-2005, 08:56 PM
On PvE servers it's possible to go PvP provided both parties agree - you turn on a "PvP flag".
Does that mean that on a PvE sever an alliance character cannot automatically attack a horde character?
Does that mean that on a PvE sever an alliance character cannot automatically attack a horde character?
FireFLi
13-01-2005, 08:13 AM
I have a key for the EU final beta test. Has anyone sucessfully managed to play on the EU servers?
GougedEye
13-01-2005, 09:28 AM
SA guild on stormrage is "Flame of Anduril"
Guild forums at :
http://ikonstruct.co.uk/wow/index.php
Guild forums at :
http://ikonstruct.co.uk/wow/index.php
FireFLi
13-01-2005, 01:02 PM
Do you the front end? I was going to dl it end of the month but if I don't have too it would be a big bonus :rolleyes:
alexkellaris
16-01-2005, 10:58 PM
The best u can do to pay the monthly sub is to get hold of someone traveling to the states and get them to buy u a 6month subscription while they are there.
Or u can just wait 2-3 months and the game will be launched in S.A.
We will even have our own free Beta testing.
Of coarse we won't be getting any local servers but don't let that get u down, a lot of South Africans are playing it even on dial up modems and say that the game is designed so well that they play with very mild lag issues, except when there are huge amounts of ppl around.
But ppl using ISDN, ASDL or Sentech will have it made.
Or u can just wait 2-3 months and the game will be launched in S.A.
We will even have our own free Beta testing.
Of coarse we won't be getting any local servers but don't let that get u down, a lot of South Africans are playing it even on dial up modems and say that the game is designed so well that they play with very mild lag issues, except when there are huge amounts of ppl around.
But ppl using ISDN, ASDL or Sentech will have it made.
sybawoods
17-01-2005, 06:33 AM
Does that mean that on a PvE sever an alliance character cannot automatically attack a horde character?
Correct. However, if the Horde character has his PvP (Player vs Player) flag enabled, then you can attack at any time. If it is disabled, you will not be able to initiate an attack.
Think of PvE as a massive co-op mode, with the ability to go head-to-head with other humans whenever you feel like it.
Just last night I was busy with a huge quest in the Badlands, and stumbled across a horde character completing a quest of his own. We literally ran into each other, sthen stared for a few seconds in shock. I made my character show him the finger (type /rude in the chat box to enable this), then immediately after I spat on him :D :D . In a flash he enabled his PvP flag, and we went toe-to-toe... less than a minute later I was dancing on his dead body :p . Awesome feeling.
Correct. However, if the Horde character has his PvP (Player vs Player) flag enabled, then you can attack at any time. If it is disabled, you will not be able to initiate an attack.
Think of PvE as a massive co-op mode, with the ability to go head-to-head with other humans whenever you feel like it.
Just last night I was busy with a huge quest in the Badlands, and stumbled across a horde character completing a quest of his own. We literally ran into each other, sthen stared for a few seconds in shock. I made my character show him the finger (type /rude in the chat box to enable this), then immediately after I spat on him :D :D . In a flash he enabled his PvP flag, and we went toe-to-toe... less than a minute later I was dancing on his dead body :p . Awesome feeling.
FireFLi
17-01-2005, 09:41 AM
Or u can just wait 2-3 months and the game will be launched in S.A.
We will even have our own free Beta testing.
Is this definite? I have a mate in the UK who I have asked to send me a copy as soon as it's released there, but if it's definitely on it's way I will just bite the bullet and wait for it.
We will even have our own free Beta testing.
Is this definite? I have a mate in the UK who I have asked to send me a copy as soon as it's released there, but if it's definitely on it's way I will just bite the bullet and wait for it.
GougedEye
17-01-2005, 10:59 AM
You can get the software locally from one of us who is playing. And you can buy the account key from some local peops as well. If you really want it you can be palying Wednesday.
alexkellaris
17-01-2005, 01:08 PM
Is this definite? I have a mate in the UK who I have asked to send me a copy as soon as it's released there, but if it's definitely on it's way I will just bite the bullet and wait for it.
Apparantly this is the case, S.A will be having it's own official launch in March-April.
The person u can speak to about his is Bruce, he is in charge of bringing WOW into S.A.
Go to www.blizzard.com
click on sales, and go to international sales, he's contact details are there under numetro. It's a local call so don't worry.
Hope this helps you make a decision, I have a feeling Europe may get it a month before we do.
Apparantly this is the case, S.A will be having it's own official launch in March-April.
The person u can speak to about his is Bruce, he is in charge of bringing WOW into S.A.
Go to www.blizzard.com
click on sales, and go to international sales, he's contact details are there under numetro. It's a local call so don't worry.
Hope this helps you make a decision, I have a feeling Europe may get it a month before we do.
FireFLi
17-01-2005, 03:34 PM
Whoa that's really encouraging. Now who do I have to blow do get a copy of the front end for the beta test? :D
P.S. Where the hey is the sales link :confused:
P.S. Where the hey is the sales link :confused:
alexkellaris
17-01-2005, 04:41 PM
Whoa that's really encouraging. Now who do I have to blow do get a copy of the front end for the beta test? :D
P.S. Where the hey is the sales link :confused:
Sorry forgot to say first click on WOW then u can find link called blizzard sales
P.S. Where the hey is the sales link :confused:
Sorry forgot to say first click on WOW then u can find link called blizzard sales
alexkellaris
17-01-2005, 04:43 PM
You can get the software locally from one of us who is playing. And you can buy the account key from some local peops as well. If you really want it you can be palying Wednesday.
GougedI where did u get your account and copy? whats your e-mail?
GougedI where did u get your account and copy? whats your e-mail?
FireFLi
17-01-2005, 09:12 PM
ty
Strobemeister
29-01-2005, 04:09 PM
So has anyone actually called this dude? alternatively, are we definitely getting an official release here in a coupla months?
if so, i'll just hang on for it, and b about a gazillion levels lower than everyone else when i start :(
if so, i'll just hang on for it, and b about a gazillion levels lower than everyone else when i start :(
Razer0
30-01-2005, 06:31 PM
I see that theres a WoW sever on our shores, beta stage it seems.
*cough torrents cough*
*cough torrents cough*
AcidRaZor
31-01-2005, 11:02 AM
What server? Where? Who's hosting it? on what backbone? SAIX? UUNET? IS?
Razer0
01-02-2005, 12:06 AM
thats quite a unique homepage u have there noone..
join #scwow on eth server for more info, coz sorry i dont know
i think its woogle or something *EDIT* womble thats it :D
join #scwow on eth server for more info, coz sorry i dont know
i think its woogle or something *EDIT* womble thats it :D
AcidRaZor
01-02-2005, 08:53 AM
My momma always said I was unique... so I figured it should filter through to my homepage :P
FireFLi
01-02-2005, 02:54 PM
Hey Guys,
I forgot to start the dl for the beta frontend last night :( I am now desperately trying to secure a copy of it. Can anyone please help me out? :confused:
Kind Regards,
FF
I forgot to start the dl for the beta frontend last night :( I am now desperately trying to secure a copy of it. Can anyone please help me out? :confused:
Kind Regards,
FF
AcidRaZor
01-02-2005, 02:58 PM
where do you download the beta frontend?
maybe i could pull it off for you and send it? if you're on adsl it should go fast, local->local
maybe i could pull it off for you and send it? if you're on adsl it should go fast, local->local
Razer0
01-02-2005, 03:07 PM
I downloaded it from my bro's PC :p
FireFLi
01-02-2005, 05:07 PM
I downloaded it from my bro's PC :p
Any chance I can get a copy from you? Barring that I'll have to send noone the URL.
Any chance I can get a copy from you? Barring that I'll have to send noone the URL.
Chris
12-03-2005, 05:25 PM
I know this a bit late, but is anyone willing to d/l the Open Beta for me - postage would be preferred due to some unspecified reasons, I am mostly in Cape Town.
If you are willing to post PM me please :)
If you are willing to post PM me please :)
FireFLi
13-03-2005, 03:45 PM
Too late, already have a european release of the game and have been happily addicted for 6 weeks now ;)
Brannor
14-03-2005, 01:05 PM
Too late, already have a european release of the game and have been happily addicted for 6 weeks now ;)
Six weeks eh? I count 31 days today. :P
Playing on Shadow Moon, Horde, L44 Hunter (45 tonight :D ).
300 Skinning
258 Leatherworking
Done all Wild Leather quests, and prepping for my first ever Dragonscale Vest. :)
Yes...I'm addicted like you. :P
-G
Six weeks eh? I count 31 days today. :P
Playing on Shadow Moon, Horde, L44 Hunter (45 tonight :D ).
300 Skinning
258 Leatherworking
Done all Wild Leather quests, and prepping for my first ever Dragonscale Vest. :)
Yes...I'm addicted like you. :P
-G
FireFLi
14-03-2005, 02:39 PM
oops... busted. Been so far down lost all track of time. Call me a liar for a couple of weeks :p but must say you have it worse than me or your single :p lvl 18 Nightelf druid. Skinning 137 Leatherworking 56. Fishing 3, impossible with the lag :mad: . Ventured out of tedrassil yesterday. Very scary :eek:
P.S. What ping times are you experiencing?
P.S. What ping times are you experiencing?
Brannor
15-03-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm on ISDN 64k (Telkom ISP) and getting pings if < 600. Sometimes down to <500 even during peak. Very nice, and quite playable.
Shadow Moon is a PvP server, so often gank-squads about...but if you know where to XP, you're ok. Friday's Honour system should sort out some of the ganking...we hope.
And yes, I am single. But I'm not new to MMORPGs, played Asheron's Call 2 and 18 months of DAoC while living in London. I get into a routine and XP ok. And that's only playing at night on Weekdays, and on weekends.
-G
Shadow Moon is a PvP server, so often gank-squads about...but if you know where to XP, you're ok. Friday's Honour system should sort out some of the ganking...we hope.
And yes, I am single. But I'm not new to MMORPGs, played Asheron's Call 2 and 18 months of DAoC while living in London. I get into a routine and XP ok. And that's only playing at night on Weekdays, and on weekends.
-G
FireFLi
15-03-2005, 04:44 PM
I am getting ~500 on my capped ADSL last night even had a couple of minutes in yellow latency :D . Can't play that much wyf gets mad :o
Brannor
16-03-2005, 12:14 PM
That's actually nice. Though I've heard some people get high latency occasionally with ADSL... I never have, not in the month of playing.
Also, I don't really expect my ISDN costs to be anywhere near ADSL, and besides, I don't use it for much more than surfing a few sites, patches, and WoW (+ plugins for WoW), so I really don't need huge bandwidth.
Shame... yes, a wife or g/f can be a bit of a problem, unless they're understanding or you get them something that they like that they can do at the same time. :) Some of my UK friends are lucky enough to have wives that play too.
-G
Also, I don't really expect my ISDN costs to be anywhere near ADSL, and besides, I don't use it for much more than surfing a few sites, patches, and WoW (+ plugins for WoW), so I really don't need huge bandwidth.
Shame... yes, a wife or g/f can be a bit of a problem, unless they're understanding or you get them something that they like that they can do at the same time. :) Some of my UK friends are lucky enough to have wives that play too.
-G
FireFLi
16-03-2005, 01:24 PM
She was into it for a week or so but got fed up cos I kept yelling at her :o sort of shot myself in the foot there :rolleyes:
Brannor
18-03-2005, 09:41 PM
FireFLi, if you read this and are online this weekend, can you let me know what your pings are like over ADSL. I just got my first bill, and installation + 2 months + phonecalls = !!!!, so thinking of moving to ADSL, but my concern is the ping.
Thanks,
-G
Thanks,
-G
Chris
19-03-2005, 09:03 AM
Brannor, just look a view posts above you.
FireFLi
19-03-2005, 09:14 AM
Brannor I can keep a record for you if you like,played an hour this morning still just over 500. If you can go the extra mile and get unshapped ADSL ;) especially if your heavy into gaming do IT! Just waiting for aproval from the big boss (a.k.a wyf) and I am going to make the switch :cool:
Brannor
19-03-2005, 09:32 AM
Does sound tempting now...cause your ping is basically the same as mine...
And of course, on public holidays, like this coming week, you'll be able to play all day, if the boss lets you.
Wonder if the 192k package with a 3gb cap is the way to go...since I don't need lots of bandwidth...
-G
And of course, on public holidays, like this coming week, you'll be able to play all day, if the boss lets you.
Wonder if the 192k package with a 3gb cap is the way to go...since I don't need lots of bandwidth...
-G
AcidRaZor
19-03-2005, 11:40 AM
She was into it for a week or so but got fed up cos I kept yelling at her :o sort of shot myself in the foot there :rolleyes:
Rookie mistake :D you can teach them how to walk towards the stream of water, but you can't teach them to take off their clothes and take a bath infront of strangers while being photographed and streamed over live webcams accross the world.
Point is, they like to learn things on their own, if she wanted to know something, she'd asked.
Everytime this happens to me, I ask myself "Is it me playing this game?" if the answer is "no" I keep my mouth shut. Even though the other person is losing horribly and you can see the obvious mistakes
Did I mention I was bored today?
Rookie mistake :D you can teach them how to walk towards the stream of water, but you can't teach them to take off their clothes and take a bath infront of strangers while being photographed and streamed over live webcams accross the world.
Point is, they like to learn things on their own, if she wanted to know something, she'd asked.
Everytime this happens to me, I ask myself "Is it me playing this game?" if the answer is "no" I keep my mouth shut. Even though the other person is losing horribly and you can see the obvious mistakes
Did I mention I was bored today?
FireFLi
19-03-2005, 05:15 PM
Never a truer word spoken :p but finally some sense got into her and she played a couple of hours with me i.e. WoW :D . Also I have stopped yelling out commands which seems to have improved the situation :rolleyes:
Brannor
22-03-2005, 11:02 AM
Ok, so I've gone and orderred an upgrade to HomeDSL192, and will use Telkom as my ISP with a 3GB standard account. Also taking the plunge on a 24 month contract...
Waiting for their email with the contract, and then see how long it take to get upgraded.
I just hope the ping is as good as you say. ;)
-G
Waiting for their email with the contract, and then see how long it take to get upgraded.
I just hope the ping is as good as you say. ;)
-G
FireFLi
22-03-2005, 11:37 AM
nooooo... don't sign that contract!!! :( rather buy the modem, with the 2nd SNO on the horizon you don't want to be locked in. For about R500 you can get a modem/router which far more flexible than the droll that telkom are handing out.
Brannor
22-03-2005, 01:37 PM
Ok, so if I buy my own modem, I also need to get the surge protector...just where do I get these?
But the thing is...even if I cancel later, it's basically a penalty of R70 a month...so won't be THAT much...not like my BT ADSL when I was in the UK, where they forced me to pay the full fee for every month of the remaining period...now THAT, was a small fortune. :P
-G
But the thing is...even if I cancel later, it's basically a penalty of R70 a month...so won't be THAT much...not like my BT ADSL when I was in the UK, where they forced me to pay the full fee for every month of the remaining period...now THAT, was a small fortune. :P
-G
FireFLi
22-03-2005, 01:43 PM
I don't have a surge protector :eek: , I've been lucky so far :) but I would recommend one. I know www.blackdot.co.za sell but I am sure you can get from the retailers who sell said modems.
Brannor
29-03-2005, 09:31 AM
Well, got some really nice pings on ISDN this weekend...(while standing still fishing and chatting, it went down to 302) Up to Level 53 last night. Getting ADSL tomorrow...so hope the pings stay around 500.
-G
-G
Brannor
29-03-2005, 09:37 AM
Oh, and Skills info is now:
Leatherworking 270
Skinning 300
Fishing 240-245 (can't remember exactly)
Cooking 300
I worked out that fishing/cooking makes life a little cheaper for feeding my tiger.
Oh, and I MUST recomend the PetFeeder addon...really good for having your pet auto-feed itself. Just categorise food you carry into whichever diet your pet eats, and set the level to content/happy, and whenever it drops out of that, it'll "search your packs" for food.
-G
Leatherworking 270
Skinning 300
Fishing 240-245 (can't remember exactly)
Cooking 300
I worked out that fishing/cooking makes life a little cheaper for feeding my tiger.
Oh, and I MUST recomend the PetFeeder addon...really good for having your pet auto-feed itself. Just categorise food you carry into whichever diet your pet eats, and set the level to content/happy, and whenever it drops out of that, it'll "search your packs" for food.
-G
FireFLi
30-03-2005, 08:32 AM
Oh my word , what level are you G? No where near those stats :o . You haven't mentioned race, class and level. I am a NE Druid lvl 25. I have basically the same skills but haven't chosen my second secondary skill but will most likely be cooking. What server are u playing on?
Anyway here are my vitals :D
Leatherworking 126
Skinning 190
Fishing 18 (not a priority)
Are u using the standard UI or a 3rd party one. I ask this cos u mentioned the pet feeder plugin, ah light bulb just lit.... your a hunter. :p
P.S. Did not see the 1st post :o , 300 on ISDN I averaged btw 500 - 650 on ADSL this weekend which makes fishing almost impossible.
Anyway here are my vitals :D
Leatherworking 126
Skinning 190
Fishing 18 (not a priority)
Are u using the standard UI or a 3rd party one. I ask this cos u mentioned the pet feeder plugin, ah light bulb just lit.... your a hunter. :p
P.S. Did not see the 1st post :o , 300 on ISDN I averaged btw 500 - 650 on ADSL this weekend which makes fishing almost impossible.
Brannor
30-03-2005, 09:36 AM
Server: Shadow Moon
Race: Orc (Male)
Profession: Hunter
Level: 53
Primary skills:
- Leatherworking: 273
- Skinning: 300
Secondary skills:
- Cooking: 300
- Fishing: 252
- First Aid: 80ish
And yes, I use a number of addons. Mapnotes, Mapcoords, Lootlink, Bottombars, Petfeeder, Hunterpetskills, Zonelevels, Tacklebox (all I can think of offhand).
And 500-650 is perfectly fine for fishing. Just use some lures...they allow you a bit longer to react. Generally, when you fish, the ping will be much better, as you're not moving. My average ping is still 450-600.
Am going to ask Telkom to allow NORMAL prioritisation on port 3724...
-G
Race: Orc (Male)
Profession: Hunter
Level: 53
Primary skills:
- Leatherworking: 273
- Skinning: 300
Secondary skills:
- Cooking: 300
- Fishing: 252
- First Aid: 80ish
And yes, I use a number of addons. Mapnotes, Mapcoords, Lootlink, Bottombars, Petfeeder, Hunterpetskills, Zonelevels, Tacklebox (all I can think of offhand).
And 500-650 is perfectly fine for fishing. Just use some lures...they allow you a bit longer to react. Generally, when you fish, the ping will be much better, as you're not moving. My average ping is still 450-600.
Am going to ask Telkom to allow NORMAL prioritisation on port 3724...
-G
FireFLi
30-03-2005, 09:41 AM
whohoo good luck with that :D let me know how far you get.
GougedEye
30-03-2005, 11:18 AM
It would be sooo coool if we can get that. Maybe NuMetro will be able to convince them?
FireFLi
30-03-2005, 03:33 PM
Yes, maybe they will setup a VPN that has a direct connection to the EU servers :D who knows sub 300 pings?
stokkie
02-04-2005, 03:09 PM
how can I play wow
FireFLi
02-04-2005, 05:09 PM
And the moment u can only play on the EU/US servers which entails having someone get you a key or copy of the game from the aforementioned places. It's easier to play on EU servers as they don't seem to have a problem processing SA credit cards. If you want to play on US servers you need a US credit card or gaming cards.
Darric
08-04-2005, 10:34 AM
So I got my ISDN installed about three weeks ago, and have been happily playing WoW (EU) with my brother ever since. (Which reminds me... I need to sort out those credit card details before my trial month expires...)
With both of us networked and playing simultaneously over ISDN, we get pretty constant sub-500 pings. After hearing what I've heard about ADSL, and now that I'm a solid WoW addict, I wouldn't dream of changing to something else until things improve.
My characters:
On Dunemaul (PVP) I have a level 22 Night Elf Druid, named Darric. Skills are Herbalism (165), Alchemy (115), Fishing (25).
On Dragonmaw (PVP) I have a level 8 Orc Warrior, named Raddic. Skills are mining (0), Blacksmithing (0). (I only use this guy when playing with another friend who hardly plays. =p)
Thoroughly enjoying the game, best MMOG since the glory days of Ultima Online.
With both of us networked and playing simultaneously over ISDN, we get pretty constant sub-500 pings. After hearing what I've heard about ADSL, and now that I'm a solid WoW addict, I wouldn't dream of changing to something else until things improve.
My characters:
On Dunemaul (PVP) I have a level 22 Night Elf Druid, named Darric. Skills are Herbalism (165), Alchemy (115), Fishing (25).
On Dragonmaw (PVP) I have a level 8 Orc Warrior, named Raddic. Skills are mining (0), Blacksmithing (0). (I only use this guy when playing with another friend who hardly plays. =p)
Thoroughly enjoying the game, best MMOG since the glory days of Ultima Online.
Brannor
09-04-2005, 09:05 AM
Using SAOL, I get pings that are almost the same as ISDN, granted, you get maybe 1, or 2 packet loss spikes a day, you still have teh advantage of playing whenever you like, and being able to switch off your PC at night on the weekends. :P
R399 for 3GB unshaped? A good buy IMHO.
-G
R399 for 3GB unshaped? A good buy IMHO.
-G
FireFLi
09-04-2005, 06:20 PM
Yip, ISDN does deliver better pings, although since I got my unshapped account I am consistently experiencing pings between 450 - 550. :D That said wait til you hit a public holiday and see the horror shock bill you receive from helkom, especially now that they are increasing their local call rates :mad: . Nice thing about ADSL is you also don't have to wait fro callmore to kick in. Also playing on Dragonmaw lvl 29 NE Druid.
Who knows we might run into eachother some time. :cool:
Who knows we might run into eachother some time. :cool:
an3s
13-04-2005, 05:10 PM
Ok, I am getting 128K ISDN some time in April. Only reason for this, is WoW and possibly GuildWars. From what I have read ISDN gives pretty good pings. Entirely playable I suppose? Don't even notice lag?
Now I want to ask if Telkom's modem is good enough. That itty bitty USB modem. I find it entirely believable that Telkom would sabotage their modems.
Now I want to ask if Telkom's modem is good enough. That itty bitty USB modem. I find it entirely believable that Telkom would sabotage their modems.
killadoob
14-04-2005, 01:04 PM
isdn is way better with pings then adsl even if you have an unshaped account. just alot more expensive than adsl but if you wanna play games then isdn is awesome for international.
if i remember correctly which maybe i wont because the nukecap guys think im brainless kinda like their kuk company anyhow moving on.
when i had isdn 128k i used to play on a specific battlefield 1942 server just about every night my ping where in the region of 250-300 with 40 players.
i went to the same server when i got adsl and i was in the 400's at night
if i remember correctly which maybe i wont because the nukecap guys think im brainless kinda like their kuk company anyhow moving on.
when i had isdn 128k i used to play on a specific battlefield 1942 server just about every night my ping where in the region of 250-300 with 40 players.
i went to the same server when i got adsl and i was in the 400's at night
killadoob
14-04-2005, 01:05 PM
o and telkom's modems are great but just go check out a price at local computer store other than incredible corruption. matrix technologies sells cheap adsl modem