Dilemma: Should i buy the same car

[adamr]

As some might now i just sold my M3 ... thing is there is another one up for sale ... with the same mileage a few more extras but 2009 ... DCT plus Mdynamic, the one i had did not have the M-dynamic ...

should i buy the same car again?

friends tell me no ...

[dj_jyno]

Depending on the reason why you sold your car in the first place - no.

[Mouse]

If you liked the car you had, you will probably like the new version too.

[MadMailMan]

Drive it. A car on paper is as good as the paper. Get behind the wheel and you will know right away. Good luck.

[Fazda]

I have often replaced one car with the same model...like putting on a comfortable shoe, only new!! :D

[BCO]

I have often replaced one car with the same model...like putting on a comfortable shoe, only new!! :D

I haven't read this whole thread. Fazda, have you listed all your cars yet?

[Fazda]

I haven't read this whole thread. Fazda, have you listed all your cars yet?

Yes, they are all in the "How many cars have you owned" thread...:D:D

You might recognise a couple of them!!:D

[BCO]

Ah yes. I thought I was posting in that other thread.

This list, huh?

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2750311&postcount=19

Damned impressive.

[Fazda]

Ah yes. I thought I was posting in that other thread.

This list, huh?

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2750311&postcount=19

Damned impressive.

YEBO Yes...:D:D

I rather like it too...just wish I had kept a couple of choice ones, however!!;)

[koeks]

As some might now i just sold my M3 ... thing is there is another one up for sale ... with the same mileage a few more extras but 2009 ... DCT plus Mdynamic, the one i had did not have the M-dynamic ...

should i buy the same car again?

friends tell me no ...

why did you sell?

[Gaz{M}]

How can you afford an M3 but still have time to jack around on MyBB all day? :)

I agree - just get in the car and drive it. I spent hours and hours pouring over car magazines, making short lists based on stats. Then when i actually drove the 5 cars on my list, i knew immediately which one i liked best. And the one i thought i should buy based on stats was the worst car of the 5.

Drive, and you'll just know.

[Beginner]

Have to agree with the friends - you sold it for a reason - get something new and nice

[DOOMIE61]

for the price of that M3 you could get a nice 996 911 turbo, totally different car but what a machine.. :D

[JK8]

Get an R8!!

[Rouxenator]

Get an R8!!

And something reliable (Fiesta) on the side line for when the R8 is in the garage.

[DOOMIE61]

Get an R8!!

stuff that id rather have "godzilla" the GT-R for that price ;)

[BCO]

Get a Cayman.

[adamr]

why did you sell?

I thought i got a good price ... R700k ... so i sold it ...


How can you afford an M3 but still have time to jack around on MyBB all day? :)

I agree - just get in the car and drive it. I spent hours and hours pouring over car magazines, making short lists based on stats. Then when i actually drove the 5 cars on my list, i knew immediately which one i liked best. And the one i thought i should buy based on stats was the worst car of the 5.

Drive, and you'll just know.

read the thread and title! ... i had an 2008 BMW E92 M3 DCT!! ... and want to buy another one after having sold this one ... so no need for me to drive another one

all day on MyBB??? whats that gotta do with this thread ... and honestly im not :confused:

how can i afford the M3?? ... well nicely and ill buy it cash ... :p ... but again whats that got to do with the thread???

:confused:




for the price of that M3 you could get a nice 996 911 turbo, totally different car but what a machine.. :D

i agree and did look at a 996 turbo ... BUT ... no motorplan, for e.g. a clutch costs R20k ... it will be very expensive to maintain without a motorplan ...

The R35 i presume you talking about, am on the list ... only end of this year will it come ... well im in the second batch of 25, first batch get theirs in October ... so im told ...

there are R34's i have heard of, for around R650k ... but modded to "hell and gone" and tracked like crazy, so a no no for me :)

Doomie61, the cars you mentioned i have definitely looked at :) ... we think alike :) ... the others im considering is a 997 Carrera S, R8, 997 GT3 (but id be really stretching)


Get an R8!!

yes yes ... but then my friend drove one today and told me it not as exciting as he thought it would be ... again is the price ...


And something reliable (Fiesta) on the side line for when the R8 is in the garage.

oh yes, with every trophy car i have had another car ... i think its insane someone buying a trophy car without a second car at least ... that just my view though


Get a Cayman.

My dad says i should get a cayman S, buy it brand new ... im not sure ...





well i did go and see the M3 at "AnyCar" and was in a nutshell treated like **** ... i wont recommend going to that dealership ...

[Fazda]

Adam, I think I am going to be ill! :sick:

[adamr]

Adam, I think I am going to be ill! :sick:

lol WHY???????? my taste in cars??? or my illogical brain :) ?

[Fazda]

lol WHY???????? my taste in cars??? or my illogical brain :) ?

No...having owned many cars, I am now in a position where I cannot even afford a cheapie, so I get kinda nauseous hen I see the choice you have.:(

[adamr]

LOL dont be Fazda ... :)

[Fazda]

:sick:

[DOOMIE61]

Forgot about those turbo's don't have motor plans.. if you like the cayman have a look at the cayman S or the Cayman S sport, the only difference is that the sport has extreme suspension beautiful suede interior, and meaner exhaust, and a few other things..

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/porsche-cayman-s-sport-3/957981/

[Fazda]

Forgot about those turbo's don't have motor plans.. if you like the cayman have a look at the cayman S or the Cayman S sport, the only difference is that the sport has extreme suspension beautiful suede interior, and meaner exhaust, and a few other things..

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/porsche-cayman-s-sport-3/957981/

:sick::sick::sick:

[Gaz{M}]

You obviously have no sense of humour. And are too sensitive.

[Fazda]

You obviously have no sense of humour. And are too sensitive.

Not at all, I simply think that you must have rocks in your head or way too much money if you are going to throw a million buck at a bloody Porsche...no car is worth that, I don't care what it is! And now we are worrying about motorplans nogal!!!!!!!!!! If you've got that much money to burn, pay for the friggin service!

[adamr]

You obviously have no sense of humour. And are too sensitive.

sorry :)

did i come across as that? do apologise :) ... kinda smiled when i read that and scratched my head at the same time :)

*forgot the smileys*

[adamr]

Not at all, I simply think that you must have rocks in your head or way too much money if you are going to throw a million buck at a bloody Porsche...no car is worth that, I don't care what it is! And now we are worrying about motorplans nogal!!!!!!!!!! If you've got that much money to burn, pay for the friggin service!

so what do you reckon i should buy?

[thedutchman]

how about you wait for the new jag xkr ? with the 5 liter V8 supercharged ?? that'll be a monster

[Fazda]

how about you wait for the new jag xkr ? with the 5 liter V8 supercharged ?? that'll be a monster

Best suggestion I've seen, that's what I would buy if I could afford more than a tricycle!:D

[JK8]

Your friend drove the R8 and he doesnt like it...
Drive it yourself!
Your friends an idiot lol!:o

[adamr]

Your friend drove the R8 and he doesnt like it...
Drive it yourself!
Your friends an idiot lol!:o

JK8, there is a R8 at a very good price that i found, think i might just buy it ...

[BCO]

JK8, there is a R8 at a very good price that i found, think i might just buy it ...

I hate you.

[Rouxenator]

Between the R8 and the RS4, the RS4 is much beter buy if you have to buy VAG.
But you can really do much better than VAG.

[BCO]

Between the R8 and the RS4, the RS4 is much beter buy if you have to buy VAG.
But you can really do much better than VAG.

The only car I can think of at that price which I'd rather have than an R8 is a Carrera 4S.... still VAG though innit? Or does Porsche not count as VAG?

[JK8]

JK8, there is a R8 at a very good price that i found, think i might just buy it ...

Cool!:D


The only car I can think of at that price which I'd rather have than an R8 is a Carrera 4S.... still VAG though innit? Or does Porsche not count as VAG?

Vag.... P.... same thing!:p

[Dolby]

I was actually looking at either an R8, Porsche Turbo or the RunX.

But I decided on the RunX as it just looks better than the above cars in certain angles.

[Rouxenator]

I was actually looking at either an R8, Porsche Turbo or the RunX.

But I decided on the RunX as it just looks better than the above cars in certain angles.
+1000

I have to agree with you :-) The angle that does not work for me on the Audi and Porsche is the one straight from the front where I can see the badge and know that it is a VAG product.

[bboy]

whats VAG?

[JK8]

I hate you.

Bluecollar?

[BCO]

Bluecollar?

:D

New and improved. :p

[Kompete]

I would suggest you save yourself some money and get the new 335i coupe or convertible with the 7 speed DKG gearbox.

An //M at altitude is a waste of money, unless you live in Slaapstad.:p

[BCO]

I would suggest you save yourself some money and get the new 335i coupe or convertible with the 7 speed DKG gearbox.

An //M at altitude is a waste of money, unless you live in Slaapstad.:p

He's had a 335i before too.

[adamr]

got a 135i ... its sitting in the garage right now ... just picked her up this evening, friend is leaving for Canada for a few months and he figured the car is just gonna sit ... plan is drive it for a bit and sell it :) ... little demon .... :)

2009 model 1700km ... silver with the s/r, msport goodies ...

EDIT: my heart is set on a GT3 997, so until i find one im just gonna "flip" cars ...

[Messugga]

Isn't the GT3's ride ridiculously hard? Why not go for a GT2 rather? ;) Yes yes, I know they're expensive, but the Lord saw fit to give you two kidneys for a reason!
That being said, I'll let you employ me and give me the 135i as a signing bonus because I'm such a good person! :D

[StrongTurd]

Wow! It is sobering to realise that there are still people out there who's major dilemma is making a choice between buying another M3, an R8 or a Porsche 911 turbo...for cash nogal! And all of this while there's a 135i sitting in the garage at home!

Any of those cars are worth more than my house (which comes with a 20 year bond which I'm k*kking to pay for). The daily dilemmas that I'm dealing with are more along the lines of whether I can risk letting my wife drive around for another month with bald tires on her '95 Corolla until I can hopefully scrape together enough money for a couple couple of front tires or if I should go right ahead and see if I can fit the cost onto the budget facility of my credit card. We sure live in different worlds!

Having said that, if I was ever to be put into a position where my "dilemma" was making a choice between a bunch of supercars then my decision will be very easy: I wouldn't buy any of those. Instead, I would buy a 2009 1.6 Corolla and with the change I would buy a nice clean Cessna 182 or even a twin like a Baron 58. 'Nuff said. But I guess you've already got a few aeries parked in a hangar somewhere so this advice wouldn't apply.....:D

Nah, sorry mate, can't help you with your dilemma. Good luck with your choice.

[adamr]

Isn't the GT3's ride ridiculously hard? Why not go for a GT2 rather? ;) Yes yes, I know they're expensive, but the Lord saw fit to give you two kidneys for a reason!
That being said, I'll let you employ me and give me the 135i as a signing bonus because I'm such a good person! :D

the rs yes does have a hard ride, the normal one not as bad. Gt2 is just too pricey, even if i sell both em kidneys :)

[adamr]

strongturd thats just it, some people love buying expensive paintings, others travelling the world. Etc, My passion is cars. And yes maybe its a bad habit but i do tend to ask people for advice in every choice i make

[adamr]

ps: not having debt does help in having less dilemmas :) . . . Like my dad tells me on this dilemma of mines: 'son, you have a nice problem' :)

[Messugga]

adamr, your dad's a wise man! Have you ever considered something a bit more exotic? I'm thinking maybe a Lotus of some form. Now, I know you're a BMW man, but variety is the spice of life they say.

[adamr]

those lil cars thats very fast? Nah, you want to look at the car and like it and also sit in it and know you in something special, apart from the speed

[Messugga]

They're actually not that fast. They're more known for their excellent handling ;)
M6?

[thedutchman]

merc clk black series, and if you have a bit more, sl 65 black series

[adamr]

i see an m6 for a man in his 40s, not my style. Clk black, i will look into that. Sl65 black i wish :) even a normal 65 :)

[thedutchman]

http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars_advert?country=ZA&currency=ZAR&modelexact=1&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=&keywords=black+series&min_pr=&max_pr=&min_year=&max_year=&mileage_RANGE=0&source=&sort=5&SUBMIT.x=0&SUBMIT.y=0&id=200913185664181#

[thedutchman]

or a baby aston
http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars_advert?country=ZA&currency=ZAR&modelexact=1&make=Aston+Martin&model=&keywords=&min_pr=&max_pr=1500000&min_year=&max_year=&mileage_RANGE=0&source=&sort=5&SUBMIT.x=0&SUBMIT.y=0&id=200918185751505#

[StrongTurd]

strongturd thats just it, some people love buying expensive paintings, others travelling the world. Etc, My passion is cars. And yes maybe its a bad habit but i do tend to ask people for advice in every choice i make

Yes, yes. My point is actually that for some of us our passion in life is, by necessity, trying to make ends meet and keeping a roof over our heads and keeping the children fed. Having to decide which supercar to buy (for cash) is so far removed from my daily reality that we might as well live on different planets. I cannot afford to buy fancy paintings any more than I can afford to go on a world tour or buy a supercar.

I guess I'm trying to say that you should consider yourself very fortunate because there is a very, very small number of people in South Africa that are in your position. Please note that I'm not trying to berate you in any way. I wish you all the best with your decision.

[Messugga]

StrongTurd, you'd be silly NOT to buy a supercar cash ;)
Anyway, can't say I've even been in most of the cars mentioned in this thread, nevermind driven them(Unfortunately, since I adore cars...ask the missus) so it's a bit tough to say.
There are some very fine pieces of machinery available in Europe that we unfortunately just don't get here.
Do you want this as a daily drive or a toy? Do you just want something with character, that stands out from the crowd, with fantastic engineering and workmanship having been put into it?
How do you feel about something a bit more classic in nature?

[Sensorei]

If you have lots of cash and you're confused about buying a car. Walk into Bloomsbury and your confusion will be gone instantly. There is a car there to suit any rich oke.

[Fazda]

Yes, yes. My point is actually that for some of us our passion in life is, by necessity, trying to make ends meet and keeping a roof over our heads and keeping the children fed. Having to decide which supercar to buy (for cash) is so far removed from my daily reality that we might as well live on different planets. I cannot afford to buy fancy paintings any more than I can afford to go on a world tour or buy a supercar.

I guess I'm trying to say that you should consider yourself very fortunate because there is a very, very small number of people in South Africa that are in your position. Please note that I'm not trying to berate you in any way. I wish you all the best with your decision.

Thank heavens for this post ^....I was starting to think that I was the only idiot here without several million lying around in my wallet waiting to be spent on toys!

[adamr]

Strongturd you absolutely right and trust me i am very well aware of the situation in many households not just here in SA ... so i do thank the all mighty every single day (as absurd it might seem to some)

Mesugga ... classic can do :) ... baby aston, that one is a lil pricey, there is an ornage (yes orange) V8 vantage.... black series i see dropped in price :) ...

[Rouxenator]

whats VAG?

Volkswagen Audi Group, an obsolete name (1978-1992) of the current Volkswagen Group (Volkswagen AG), a German automaker.

What to get instead of a VAG :
Adam Opel GmbH (Opel)
Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW)
Daimler AG (Mercedes)

Just out of interest :
AG VS GmbH : The GmbH has become the most common corporation form in Germany, since the AG (Aktiengesellschaft), the other major company form corresponding to a stock corporation, was until recently much more complicated to form and operate.

[Beginner]

Strongturd you absolutely right and trust me i am very well aware of the situation in many households not just here in SA ... so i do thank the all mighty every single day (as absurd it might seem to some)

Mesugga ... classic can do :) ... baby aston, that one is a lil pricey, there is an ornage (yes orange) V8 vantage.... black series i see dropped in price :) ...

Adamr - man you need to tell me what you do so that when i build my time machine and see my younger self I will know what to study and do....even if it is drug smuggler, Diamond dealer p0rn0 superstar... :D

[Messugga]

Strongturd you absolutely right and trust me i am very well aware of the situation in many households not just here in SA ... so i do thank the all mighty every single day (as absurd it might seem to some)

Mesugga ... classic can do :) ... baby aston, that one is a lil pricey, there is an ornage (yes orange) V8 vantage.... black series i see dropped in price :) ...

Try and source a Merc 300 Gullwing? Few cars has more character than that!
Jag XK130s are nice too

[BCO]

adam, I recommend a Panda 4x4. Its blistering 0-100 time of 19.6 seconds is quote a rush.

[Fazda]

Try and source a Merc 300 Gullwing? Few cars has more character than that!
Jag XK130s are nice too

LOL..the ONE car that is not available is the XK130...I'm afraid Jag never made one, they made an XK120, XK140 and XK150 before the EType...130???Nosirrie!!:D

[Fazda]

adam, I recommend a Panda 4x4. Its blistering 0-100 time of 19.6 seconds is quote a rush.

Oh yes, Oh Yes, What a car > :D......don't know where you got those magic figures from BCO.....you must have tested a real hottie!! :D :D

[DOOMIE61]

Try and source a Merc 300 Gullwing? Few cars has more character than that!
Jag XK130s are nice too

good luck finding a gullwing.. those cars are rare and fuking expensive

[BCO]

Oh yes, Oh Yes, What a car > :D......don't know where you got those magic figures from BCO.....you must have tested a real hottie!! :D :D

You've experienced the Panda Power for yourself first hand. Probably changed your life forever :p

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8069/ppuser/7708

[Messugga]

LOL..the ONE car that is not available is the XK130...I'm afraid Jag never made one, they made an XK120, XK140 and XK150 before the EType...130???Nosirrie!!:D

Sorry, I Googled for images of the older XK's and the one that I know I like was titled XK130. XK120 then. Sexy little thing ;)

[Fazda]

You've experienced the Panda Power for yourself first hand. Probably changed your life forever :p

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8069/ppuser/7708

Most definitely!!!!!!!! Never driven anything like it before!!!! :D Highly recommended!!!! :D

[Fazda]

Sorry, I Googled for images of the older XK's and the one that I know I like was titled XK130. XK120 then. Sexy little thing ;)

You don't possibly have a link to that photo do you? I've corrected quite a few odd ones on Flickr...love to see who the idiot is!!:D

BTW, a Panda could be called a "sexy little thing"...never an XK!! ;)

[BCO]

You don't possibly have a link to that photo do you? I've corrected quite a few odd ones on Flickr...love to see who the idiot is!!:D

BTW, a Panda could be called a "sexy little thing"...never an XK!! ;)

Yeah, I have to beat the ladies off with a stick. So what's the correct adjective for an XK then?

[Fazda]

Yeah, I have to beat the ladies off with a stick. So what's the correct adjective for an XK then?

Ummmm a sexy brute perhaps?? ;)

[Messugga]

You don't possibly have a link to that photo do you? I've corrected quite a few odd ones on Flickr...love to see who the idiot is!!:D

BTW, a Panda could be called a "sexy little thing"...never an XK!! ;)

There are actually several incorrectly titled, it seems :o
I only said "Sexy little thing" because it takes a man with huge balls to drive that thing close to its limits. If you like driving sexy brutes hard, that's your choice :p

[Fazda]

There are actually several incorrectly titled, it seems :o
I only said "Sexy little thing" because it takes a man with huge balls to drive that thing close to its limits. If you like driving sexy brutes hard, that's your choice :p

So does that mean I have big balls?? ;) :D

Learn't how to drive my grandfather's 140 at GREAT speed when I was a touch younger...

Pic to follow...;)

[Fazda]

Here is my grandfather's XK140 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulcowie/2379128885/in/set-72157606531089050) :D

[Messugga]

Here is my grandfather's XK140 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulcowie/2379128885/in/set-72157606531089050) :D

I would like to take this time, to express my disdain and envy towards you.
I don't suppose he still has it? I'd love to buy it, not that I can afford it of course :D
My dad has always been into classic cars and we have an old beetle as a daily and a 1960 Karmann Ghia, 100% fully restored, with a brand new engine out of a crate, when it was finished a few years ago. I don't think it has 5000km on the clock yet. I'll inherit it eventually.
I've been wanting a car with character and heritage for some time now, and going classic is the best way to get that, I feel, but unfortunately I'm yet to find something I like that I can actually afford. You'd be amazed at how expensive old Ferrari's are! I'd kill for an Austin Healey 3000 or a 62 Corvette or similar year

[Kompete]

He's had a 335i before too.

Not with a 7 speed semi-automatic gearbox with double clutch transmission, i think

[Fazda]

I would like to take this time, to express my disdain and envy towards you.
I don't suppose he still has it? I'd love to buy it, not that I can afford it of course :D
My dad has always been into classic cars and we have an old beetle as a daily and a 1960 Karmann Ghia, 100% fully restored, with a brand new engine out of a crate, when it was finished a few years ago. I don't think it has 5000km on the clock yet. I'll inherit it eventually.
I've been wanting a car with character and heritage for some time now, and going classic is the best way to get that, I feel, but unfortunately I'm yet to find something I like that I can actually afford. You'd be amazed at how expensive old Ferrari's are! I'd kill for an Austin Healey 3000 or a 62 Corvette or similar year

Sadly she is not ours any more. The owner at the moment lives in Hillcrest, and he has had a long and passionate affair with her, so I doubt if he would sell!! :D Offers around 500k the last time he thought about it, then changed his mind!! She is one of only three 140's still running in SA. There are a couple of others in the process of being rescued at the moment, but they are as rare as hens teeth. If you follow that link you will see that the car I drive every day has a Healey 3000 motor!! You can also see the Healey 100M that I used to rally in Joburg. :D

[adamr]

Not with a 7 speed semi-automatic gearbox with double clutch transmission, i think

I have had a 335i convertible, an M3 Manual M-Dynamic (was not mine, but put 2000km on it) ,an M3 7spd DCT and now the 135i ...

so anyone that compares 135i/335i to an E9x M3 ... you just cant ... M3 is a superior car ... you have to drive both cars extensively to appreciate this fact ...



the more i think of it, the more im thinking ill just buy cars at good prices and use the cars for a month or so and sell them ... sell them for what i paid for them as a worst case scenario ...

[Beginner]

Adamr - I am thinking of either getting a 4door M3 or a 335i convertable.
What is your impressions on the 335 compared to the M3 - I know you feel the M is just a better car....but convertable?

[Kompete]

I have had a 335i convertible, an M3 Manual M-Dynamic (was not mine, but put 2000km on it) ,an M3 7spd DCT and now the 135i ...

so anyone that compares 135i/335i to an E9x M3 ... you just cant ... M3 is a superior car ... you have to drive both cars extensively to appreciate this fact ...



the more i think of it, the more im thinking ill just buy cars at good prices and use the cars for a month or so and sell them ... sell them for what i paid for them as a worst case scenario ...

Of course the //M is the better car (compared to the 335), the same way a V12 Vanquish may be better than a V8 Vantage, but in the real world there is a thing called "value for money". Probably one the main reasons why high performing cars hardly ever feature as 'Car of the Year'.

So all I'm saying is... at altitude, the 335 offers better value for money compared to the //M, but hey who cares about money? :p

ps. I have driven these cars extensively ;)

[adamr]

had the 335i convertible for a year and the M3 also a year .... (amazing how time flies)

the 335i is a nice car indeed ... but the best way for me to describe it is take a 320i and drive it at 120km/h, and then do the same with a 335i drive it at 120km/h .... they no different and im sure you will agree ... will feel like the same car, just the one is faster than the other, its like comparing a 1.4 polo to a 1.6 polo ... the M3 is more than just being faster, its a different car ... The M3's dynamics are all different ... like this 135i i have now, its faster than the 335i vert ive had, but it much of the same ... is the M3 worth twice the price? ... maybe not .... i still love the M3, it does play on your heart strings

a 335i to me has a great engine, the M3 is a great car

im not sure if im making much sense :)

[MR.C]

I'm an Audi fan.
Had i been in your "predicament", my decision would be simple. place my order for an Audi TT-RS. Have the patience to wait until it gets launched here, then find the guy who bought my old M3 and race him, obviously beating him (0-100 in 4.6s) and selling the car to him at a R100 000 premium.

http://blogs.thetimes.co.za/wheeldeal/2009/02/25/rapid-new-audi-tt-rs-revealed/