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mercurial
11-05-2009, 11:35 AM
A Saudi judge said it is okay for a man to slap his wife for lavish spending at a seminar on domestic violence, according to a report from Agence France-Presse.

Jeddah judge Hamad al-Razine told the group a husband was justified in smacking his wife, using overspending on a high-end abaya, the black shroud Saudi women must wear in public, as an example, according to AFP.

"If a person gives 1,200 riyals (320 dollars) to his wife and she spends 900 riyals (240 dollars) to purchase an abaya from a brand shop, and if her husband slaps her on the face as a reaction to her action, she deserves that punishment," Razine said, AFP reported.

The seminar was on the role of authorities in preventing domestic violence that was attended by activists and officials, including members of the National Family Safety Program.

While the judge recognized the country's domestic violence problem, he said some of the blame must lie with the wives.

"Nobody puts even a fraction of the blame on them," Razine said, AFP reported.




Source (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519684,00.html)

Devill
11-05-2009, 11:40 AM
WTF?

Freaking hell then she is allowed to chop off his bits when he does slap her.

Albereth
11-05-2009, 11:47 AM
Why did he slap her? He gave her 1200 riyals and she did her shopping for less. Didn't she haggle properly? I think she did. Maybe he didn't want the change - she didn't spend enough and made him look like a poor provider - which he proved anyway.

Too much sun makes you nuts.

Did Guy Ritchie slap Madonna after he gave her the credit card and told her to go pick out a 'little black number', not for one moment thinking that she was popping off to Malawi?

porn$tar
11-05-2009, 11:57 AM
Why did he slap her? He gave her 1200 riyals and she did her shopping for less. Didn't she haggle properly? I think she did. Maybe he didn't want the change - she didn't spend enough and made him look like a poor provider - which he proved anyway.

Too much camel milk makes you nuts.

:cool:

timgaul
11-05-2009, 12:11 PM
Nothing wrong with a pair of Irish sunglasses if she doesn't bring you your beer! :p

Nah, these Saudi's have never been quite with the programme, I'm afraid.

timgaul
11-05-2009, 12:13 PM
Why did he slap her? He gave her 1200 riyals and she did her shopping for less. Didn't she haggle properly? I think she did. Maybe he didn't want the change - she didn't spend enough and made him look like a poor provider - which he proved anyway.

Too much sun makes you nuts.

Did Guy Ritchie slap Madonna after he gave her the credit card and told her to go pick out a 'little black number', not for one moment thinking that she was popping off to Malawi?

Tee hee! :D

Empiricism Philosopher
11-05-2009, 12:17 PM
Humans "spit"

bboy
11-05-2009, 12:31 PM
http://whatthe.blogetery.com/files/2008/02/slap.jpg

Devill
11-05-2009, 12:31 PM
South African poster on MyBB says Saudi Judge is Moron of the First Order.


Saudi declares it is OK to track and slap the offending insultar

:p

Mila
11-05-2009, 12:33 PM
Too much sun makes you nuts.

Did Guy Ritchie slap Madonna after he gave her the credit card and told her to go pick out a 'little black number', not for one moment thinking that she was popping off to Malawi?

I loled:p:D:o

porn$tar
11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
No more foreplay?

Devill
11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
South African poster on MyBB says Saudi Judge must bring it on.

lol :D

Garyvdh
11-05-2009, 02:07 PM
so let me get this straight...

This husband wants her to cover herself up, cos he is jealous someone else might see her beauty or think she is immodest. But when she spends a bit of money on a nice garment to obey her husband's wishes he slaps her?

Wow, when did these people become members of the human race again? Can we revoke their membership?

Empiricism Philosopher
11-05-2009, 02:33 PM
Brainwashed

KirPlunk
11-05-2009, 02:40 PM
Slap a turban, feel satisfied.

Aqua_lung
11-05-2009, 02:59 PM
The Bible agrees with the judge so what's the problem? religious people... :rolleyes:

BCO
11-05-2009, 03:06 PM
In related news, Saudi judge is a douchebag.

Aqua_lung
11-05-2009, 03:09 PM
These twits barely ever qualified as humans.

That's funny... because this is how humans have been behaving for about 100 000+ years. ;)

Garyvdh
11-05-2009, 03:12 PM
The Bible agrees with the judge so what's the problem? religious people... :rolleyes:

oh really? um, which Bible would that be? Can you provide a reference?

Aqua_lung
11-05-2009, 03:16 PM
oh really? um, which Bible would that be? Can you provide a reference?

Forgot to read them bible stories before going to bed again...


Leviticus20:10
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

oh btw the Judge is a douche.

Garyvdh
11-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Forgot to read them bible stories before going to bed again...

oh btw the Judge is a douche.

excuse me, but where does that say anything about slapping her?

Aqua_lung
11-05-2009, 03:28 PM
excuse me, but where does that say anything about slapping her?

The act of slapping is to force submission and displays authority... much like what I quoted.

Anyway this is off-topic... my bad.

Garyvdh
11-05-2009, 03:38 PM
The act of slapping is to force submission and displays authority... much like what I quoted.

Anyway this is off-topic... my bad.

what? You said that the Bible supported the judge's assertion that slapping your wife is ok, then you quote two completely unrelated verses which have nothing whatsoever to with slapping, then you say, oh sorry you are off-topic?

Do you know what the word FAIL means?

Frankie
11-05-2009, 03:38 PM
The Bible agrees with the judge so what's the problem? religious people... :rolleyes:
WTF, if you really see the need to introduce a religious connotation, then at least relate it to the religion of the land.

Sounds like pro-Islam trolling again.

Frankie
11-05-2009, 03:41 PM
The act of slapping is to force submission and displays authority... much like what I quoted.

Anyway this is off-topic... my bad.

Submission and violence are not the same thing to the educated.

Slapping is violence and physical assault.

R13...
11-05-2009, 03:59 PM
Submission and violence are not the same thing to the educated.

Slapping is violence and physical assault.

but it is possible to slap someone into submission surely...
maybe that's how the good judge is interpretting his bible. i mean it is open to interpretation.

Garyvdh
11-05-2009, 06:31 PM
but it is possible to slap someone into submission surely...
maybe that's how the good judge is interpretting his bible. i mean it is open to interpretation.

no, the difference is that the Qu'ran actually goes ahead and says it.


[4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then deserting them in bed, then you may beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme.

Empiricism Philosopher
11-05-2009, 06:44 PM
Qu'ran biggest load of %$^$#%^ IMO

Aqua_lung
11-05-2009, 07:14 PM
Qu'ran biggest load of %$^$#%^ IMO




Leviticus 20:9
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
Quran, Bible, Talmud all the same %$%$#

Empiricism Philosopher
11-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Agree and they only pick the parts they like and pretend the rest did not happen. The only reason I tolerate these people is well, you can not convince them so it is like talking to a wall.

onlyme
11-05-2009, 08:12 PM
Quran, Bible, Talmud all the same %$%$#

Amen!

marine1
12-05-2009, 07:34 AM
Quran, Bible, Talmud all the same %$%$#

Only difference is that the only ones that are still acting out this mad behaviour are the Muslims.

Fazda
12-05-2009, 08:39 AM
If you want to see what it is like to live in Saudi, have a look at my blog. Quite an experience, and this doesn't surprize me at all!

Tamerlane
12-05-2009, 09:45 AM
We have more crimes against women in South Africa per a year then in Saudi For Ten Years , nevermind a little slap , I am talking about serious abuse and rape.

There is very little crime, rape etc in Saudi Arabia better then South African with the white race ungrateful for being spared and still complaining about BEE etc. Wow South Africa Sucks.

CandyX
12-05-2009, 08:21 PM
We have more crimes against women in South Africa per a year then in Saudi For Ten Years , nevermind a little slap , I am talking about serious abuse and rape.

There is very little crime, rape etc in Saudi Arabia better then South African with the white race ungrateful for being spared and still complaining about BEE etc. Wow South Africa Sucks.

I think if SA have to adapt Saudi's laws crime would definitely go down. Public prosecution etc. When I was there I was amazed that they go for prayers and don't even close their shops let alone lock them. They would not dare commit crime, they know the sentences etc is harsh there. Only downfall is that they do treat woman like property.

butc8
12-05-2009, 08:27 PM
I think if SA have to adapt Saudi's laws crime would definitely go down. Public prosecution etc. When I was there I was amazed that they go for prayers and don't even close their shops let alone lock them. They would not dare commit crime, they know the sentences etc is harsh there. Only downfall is that they do treat woman like property.

An have no personal freedoms.

Saudi = place I never want to go

Empiricism Philosopher
12-05-2009, 08:27 PM
So getting butt raped in S.A is not harsh? We have gangs in our jails, people don't fear sentences because they can get away with their crimes. Scare tactics don't work.

butc8
12-05-2009, 08:28 PM
So getting butt raped in S.A is not harsh? We have gangs in our jails, people don't fear sentences because they can get away with their crimes. Scare tactics don't work.

lol...too true

CandyX
12-05-2009, 08:41 PM
An have no personal freedoms.

Saudi = place I never want to go

Saudi is a beautiful country, but I don't agree with the way they treat woman there. That sux big time and they carry on like we (woman) are like pieces of art/furniture they own. I also don't agree with certain laws especially towards woman, but other crime there is very low because of the way they handle it.

When I went over there in 1999/2000 I witnessed their prosecution and way of doing things. They have a huge area where they would once a week "punish" criminals eg: you steal for the 1st time and get caught, your pinkie gets chopped off, second time another finger etc etc. It sounds cruel and inhumane, but it sure works. lol

People are too scared to commit crimes there.

phenom
12-05-2009, 08:50 PM
If it works r not, it's not humane, and completely outrageous if it had to happen to an innocent person. Yes we believe in justice, but we believe in a fair justice system, and not one which actually creates the injustice.

Our system has scene a huge improvement over the years, and should continue, provided laws are progressive enough, we have scene a 3x reduction in crime in the states over the past 10 years.

CandyX
12-05-2009, 09:09 PM
If it works r not, it's not humane, and completely outrageous if it had to happen to an innocent person. Yes we believe in justice, but we believe in a fair justice system, and not one which actually creates the injustice.

Our system has scene a huge improvement over the years, and should continue, provided laws are progressive enough, we have scene a 3x reduction in crime in the states over the past 10 years.

Agree, no problem. Makes sense, but in my opinion they should be harsher with sentences and punishment.

marine1
13-05-2009, 07:07 AM
Saudi = place I never want to go+Iran, Iraq, etc