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krycor
16-06-2009, 07:48 PM
real sucky dusty pitch :( Thankfully Sa too has spinners
killadoob
16-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Yea but we did well.
Smooth Criminal
16-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Duminy and Boucher combined - 21 off 30 balls! Whatever the pitch conditions, 4 runs per over is a poor effort in T20. Biff went at run a ball and AB went at better than run a ball. I don't understand why they insist on sending Boucher ahead of Albie when there's 5 overs to go!!
Yea but we did well.
Hard to say until India bat. But I'm disappointed with the way our batting order is being handled.
Morgoth
16-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Why prepare such a dead pitch for a T20 game? this is suppose to be entertainment dammiT!
killadoob
16-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Duminy and Boucher combined - 21 off 30 balls! Whatever the pitch conditions, 4 runs per over is a poor effort in T20. Biff went at run a ball and AB went at better than run a ball. I don't understand why they insist on sending Boucher ahead of Albie when there's 5 overs to go!!
Hard to say until India bat. But I'm disappointed with the way our batting order is being handled.
Well firstly albie has no clue what he is doing against spin so sending boucher up the order seemed logical to me.
I think ab made his runs upfront because there was a passage of play where they went 50 odd deliveries without a boundry so even ab struggled to score freely i thought.
tough pitch, spin every over i think it is a good total considering we are not the best against spin.
sox63
16-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Hopefully there will be nice and fresh pitches for the semis. Pity we only have 8 overs of good spin and a few so-so spinners in the team. :(
hj2k_x
16-06-2009, 09:09 PM
60 off 36...On any other wicket....
killadoob
16-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Well there you have it, we bat decent against spin and win the game using spinners, never seen us do that before :p
I got a bit worried when smith opted for pace instead of another dumini over but yea we got there w00t w00t. Dhoni and yuvraj don't look to be getting on well at all.
The ball before the turbinator got caught was an easy single but dhoni sent yuhraj back and then the turbinator went out :p hmmm interesting.
hj2k_x
16-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Let's hope we keep it up and don't choke, as always.
HypoThesis
16-06-2009, 09:54 PM
W00t w00t. So much for SA being a one dimensional cricket team! IIRC we're the only team in the tournament to have gotten over the 200 run mark...heck, very few have even got to the 180 mark...plus we've won games having set VERY low scores.
Ahh, bring the Pakistani's on! :D
SlyFly
16-06-2009, 09:54 PM
Yea, good point, some sour grapes in that team...
But lets hope the best team wins the Pro20... us or sri lanka... Hopefully they loose in the semis, PAKISTAN HERE WE COME!!!
killadoob
16-06-2009, 09:56 PM
Yea well i am not getting too excited, that is more than likely why we fail, we must not go in thinking the paki's are a push over and get bowled out for 88 or something stupid.
I hope it's a sri lanka SA final, if we win we are the best if they win they are better, none of this meet a kuk team in the final, that is no way to win a world cup.
Morgoth
16-06-2009, 10:03 PM
Steyn is overated really, get Abdullah in, there is no more place for seamers on slow tracks, stop living in the past !!!!
killadoob
16-06-2009, 10:05 PM
There was some talk of dropping parnell from you as well if i recall, now steyn has a bit of bad game and here you are again punting abdullah for steyn and not parnell, what is about abdullah that makes you think we should drop the deadly steyn or parnell?
You cannot just drop players because they have one bad game.
Odd :p
The_Pumpkin_King
16-06-2009, 10:07 PM
Steyn is overated really, get Abdullah in, there is no more place for seamers on slow tracks, stop living in the past !!!!
glad you aren't the coach
Morgoth
16-06-2009, 10:13 PM
There was some talk of dropping parnell from you as well if i recall, now steyn has a bit of bad game and here you are again punting abdullah for steyn and not parnell, what is about abdullah that makes you think we should drop the deadly steyn or parnell?
You cannot just drop players because they have one bad game.
Odd :p
Deathbowling, and besides I am a perfectionist, each time I see bowlers going for double figures I go mad...!
killadoob
16-06-2009, 10:14 PM
Am i mistaken in thinking steyn's last over he bowled went for 5 runs and 2 wickets one being the only chance india had left?
That is death bowling on note!!!
Morgoth
16-06-2009, 10:18 PM
Am i mistaken in thinking steyn's last over he bowled went for 5 runs and 2 wickets one being the only chance india had left?
That is death bowling on note!!!
yeah although I couldnt see the yuvraj wicket, the damm angle either had Steyns ass in front of me or the side of the ball cliped off. He was lucky to get that wicket!
killadoob
16-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Not really, the question was did the ball bounce before the bat, clearly even with the one angle being cut off you could see it bounced before and thus OUT.
Not lucky good bowling. That wicket won the match and that is why steyn is in our team.
Morgoth
16-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Ill rather give that wicket to boucher.
krycor
16-06-2009, 10:47 PM
If I was to nitpick i'd say with this deadrubber game and knowing the pitch was dusty.. why opt for m morkel when you have petersen who is also not too bad with the bat too comparatively. Anyways kallis is back next game and the usual 11 will play :)
HypoThesis
16-06-2009, 11:02 PM
Got this off another forum. Could the Pakistanis be a bit undercooked? These are the different roads to the semi's the 4 semi-finalists have taken...
SouthAfrica:
Won against:Scotland, New Zealand, England, West Indies, India (1 minnow, 4 majors)
Lost against: Nil
SriLanka:
Won against:Australia, WestIndies,Pakistan,New Zealand,Ireland (1 minnow, 4 majors)
Lost against:Nil
WestIndies:
Won against:Australia,India,England (0 minnows, 3 majors)
Lost against:SriLanka, South-Africa (2 majors)
Pakistan:
Won against: Nederlands, Ireland, New Zealand (2 minnows, 1 major)
Lost against: England, Sri Lanka (2 majors)
killadoob
17-06-2009, 07:31 AM
Hypo semi's are semi's, one off game and anything can happen. Let's hope it happens for us.
Krycor i fully agree with you on that.
chiskop
17-06-2009, 07:52 AM
lol @ morgoth.
:rolleyes:
killadoob
17-06-2009, 07:53 AM
lol @ morgoth.
:rolleyes:
:D
I got a feeling morgoth is a huge fan of abdullah and very biased :p
chiskop
17-06-2009, 08:10 AM
I got a feeling morgoth is a huge fan of abdullah and very biased :p
You're living in the past killa. :rolleyes:
Steyn is the past and morgoth's schoolmate, Abdullah, is the future! :D
Morgoth
17-06-2009, 09:50 AM
Abdullah isn't my schoolmate? wtf?
chiskop
17-06-2009, 09:53 AM
Abdullah isn't my schoolmate? wtf?
Well then, what is the reason for your utter devotion to Abdullah?
Devill
17-06-2009, 09:55 AM
I am going to cry if we choke against the pakis!
I just want us to make the finals for once :o
I used to play cricket with Yusuf, didnt know he played for Dolphins.
He bowled me out, and I told him he should play provincially, then he said he does!! I though he was pulling my leg... then I saw him play earlier this year!:)
He has a one step run up and bowls FAST!! Thats action cricket:p
Then I bowled him out twice!:D
Is he playing in the semis?
I am going to cry if we choke against the pakis!
I just want us to make the finals for once :o
I took out all my SA players in my fantasy league:o
Devill
17-06-2009, 10:03 AM
I used to play cricket with Yusuf, didnt know he played for Dolphins.
He bowled me out, and I told him he should play provincially, then he said he does!! I though he was pulling my leg... then I saw him play earlier this year!:)
He has a one step run up and bowls FAST!! Thats action cricket:p
Then I bowled him out twice!:D
Is he playing in the semis?
Doubt it seeing as we are playing ur team that we play 99% of the time.
Again: If it isn't broken, why fix it?
I took out all my SA players in my fantasy league:o
Silly silly boy....
chiskop
17-06-2009, 10:09 AM
I took out all my SA players in my fantasy league:o
So, only two teams have been unbeaten all the way through. One of those teams had qualified top of their group before the last super eights game*, and you decided to remove all of those players from your fantasy team???? :confused::D:o:rolleyes:
*Barring some cataclysmic disaster which, in any event didn't happen. Even then they would have still been through.
Morgoth
17-06-2009, 10:11 AM
Well then, what is the reason for your utter devotion to Abdullah?
The ipl!
AirWolf
17-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Well done to SA yesterday:).
This time the WC is there for the taking:). Hope we don't F it up again:o.
killadoob
17-06-2009, 10:49 AM
Not really hey, pakistan on their day can nail anyone, sri lanka are unbeaten and can easily take us out.
This is not easy and i do not think paki's will be a walk over nor do i think sri lanka.
sox63
17-06-2009, 10:56 AM
With all due respect to Pakistan and their side, we going to win the semi final. Even if they manage to pull a few good individual performances out, their poor team effort is enough to nullify it. :o
Sri Lanka I'm not so sure about. Malinga, Mendis and Muralidaran are going to make me loose some sleep. Thats who I think we will meet in the finals. :D
killadoob
17-06-2009, 11:00 AM
Well i am not writing the paki's off nor am i writing the west indies off, gayle will murder someone in the next game or 2 i reckon and i just hope it is not us in the final :p
Paki's may not look like they can win but neither did england against india.
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:01 AM
If we lose,im gna say every tournament needs to be in a league format with no semi's or finals,like tri nations.Top of log is the champ.If u top it means uve been the most consistent and deserve to win.Of course that will never happen.
killadoob
17-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Lilg thats rubbish dude, if your the best you will win the tournament.
You need to perform on the day or you lose, simple as that.
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:10 AM
true i guess.But every good team has a bad day.Just hope ours isnt tomorrow.
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:11 AM
But sri lanka is in the same boat,seeing as they havnt lost yet either.
killadoob
17-06-2009, 11:13 AM
Yup it is very interesting and i really hope the 2 best teams get into the final.
What they could do lilg is make the final a 3 legged affair possibly.
chiskop
17-06-2009, 11:14 AM
Yup it is very interesting and i really hope the 2 best teams get into the final.
What they could do lilg is make the final a 3 legged affair possibly.
I disagree. I can't think of any other sport's World cup final that is a best of three event. Football has a once-off final, so does rugby. Why should cricket be any different?
AirWolf
17-06-2009, 11:17 AM
I disagree. I can't think of any other sport's World cup final that is a best of three event. Football has a once-off final, so does rugby. Why should cricket be any different?
To give SA a better chance?:o
Devill
17-06-2009, 11:18 AM
Not really hey, pakistan on their day can nail anyone, sri lanka are unbeaten and can easily take us out.
This is not easy and i do not think paki's will be a walk over nor do i think sri lanka.
Stats wise we should take it.
http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/engine/series/335113.html?view=records
Under the top twenty run scorers we have 4 batsmen.
AB (2)
Kallis(3)
Smith(12)
Gibbs(19)
Under the top 20 averages (batsmen) we have 2.
Kallis (2)
AB (5)
Leading wicket takers top 20 we have 4.
Roelf (5) (9 Wickets)
Parnell (6) (8 wickets)
Steyn (8) (8 Wickets)
Botha (15) (6 wickets)
Under the top 10 bowlers (econ) we have 3.
Roelf (2)
Parnell (6)
Botha (8)
Add to this that we are one of the the best fielding teams, if not the best, and we should beat Pakistan.
Then we should meet Sri Lanka in the finals where it will be a close call :eek:
But as we all know T20 is by no means cut and dry.
I would like Pakis to take it, considering the recent stuff they went through lately. That would really boost them.
chiskop
17-06-2009, 11:21 AM
To give SA a better chance?:o
I don't think so. It'll just give us two extra chances to run ourselves out / misread the D/L scores etc. :D
alf101
17-06-2009, 11:21 AM
I disagree. I can't think of any other sport's World cup final that is a best of three event. Football has a once-off final, so does rugby. Why should cricket be any different?
Probably World series baseball and NBA I think. (Yanks think they're the world)
chiskop
17-06-2009, 11:21 AM
I would like Pakis to take it, considering the recent stuff they went through lately. That would really boost them.
Fsck that. I would like to see SA take it. It would really boost us. :D
chiskop
17-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Probably World series baseball and NBA I think. (Yanks think they're the world)
I meant proper sports. :rolleyes:
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Remember,we played Sri Lanka in a warm up match.Gave them a hiding if i remember correctly.
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Not sure if they had mendis in the team.
killadoob
17-06-2009, 11:26 AM
I disagree. I can't think of any other sport's World cup final that is a best of three event. Football has a once-off final, so does rugby. Why should cricket be any different?
I hear you was just saying that would be better than having a log type system which in my eyes would suck. Alf i know my IQ is low from this t20 going on for so long in the last couple months but the americans always do stuff differently and the world series is an all american thing, not like any other countries get involved. Also your comparing American sports to world cups that involved a range of different countries.
alf101
17-06-2009, 11:31 AM
I meant proper sports. :rolleyes:
:D
Remember,we played Sri Lanka in a warm up match.Gave them a hiding if i remember correctly.
Wasn't it Pakistan and some other team?
alf101
17-06-2009, 11:33 AM
I hear you was just saying that would be better than having a log type system which in my eyes would suck. Alf i know my IQ is low from this t20 going on for so long in the last couple months but the americans always do stuff differently and the world series is an all american thing, not like any other countries get involved. Also your comparing American sports to world cups that involved a range of different countries.
Your reading skills are going as well ;)
Devill
17-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Remember,we played Sri Lanka in a warm up match.Gave them a hiding if i remember correctly.
We did.
Not sure if they had mendis in the team.
He was.
Murli was not however.
http://www.cricketscorelivematch.com/2009/06/south-africa-vs-sri-lanka-9th-warm-up.html
chiskop
17-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Wasn't it Pakistan and some other team?
Yes, we played both Pakistan (http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/engine/match/394409.html) and SL ("http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/engine/match/394410.html').
We won both matches.
So, in the last month we've beaten all other semi-finalists. :D
lilggg
17-06-2009, 11:38 AM
:D
Wasn't it Pakistan and some other team?
Pakistan v South Africa at Nottingham - Jun 1, 2009
South Africa won by 59 runs
South Africa 186/7 (20/20 ov); Pakistan 127 (19.4/20 ov)
South Africa v Sri Lanka at Lord's - Jun 3, 2009
South Africa won by 6 wickets (with 5 balls remaining)
Sri Lanka 109/9 (20/20 ov); South Africa 113/4 (19.1/20 ov)
Both of them :P
killadoob
17-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Does not matter about the past, only thing that matters is the game to come not games gone by.
You cannot go into a game thinking ok we beat them last time so we will beat them again.
AirWolf
17-06-2009, 11:54 AM
SABC3 will not be showing the semis and the final - just checked on tonight.co.za:(. Is this correct?
alf101
17-06-2009, 11:54 AM
Pakistan v South Africa at Nottingham - Jun 1, 2009
South Africa won by 59 runs
South Africa 186/7 (20/20 ov); Pakistan 127 (19.4/20 ov)
South Africa v Sri Lanka at Lord's - Jun 3, 2009
South Africa won by 6 wickets (with 5 balls remaining)
Sri Lanka 109/9 (20/20 ov); South Africa 113/4 (19.1/20 ov)
Both of them :P
We're on a record streak of 7 T20i wins in a row.
Add those 2 games and its 9 matches in a row.
We win the cup it'll be 11 matches in a row.
Nie te kuk nie. :)
AirWolf
17-06-2009, 11:56 AM
We're on a record streak of 7 T20i wins in a row.
Add those 2 games and its 9 matches in a row.
We win the cup it'll be 11 matches in a row.
Nie te kuk nie. :)
Were those two games not officially counted because they were friendlies?
The two before this world cup were the ones against the Aussies.
Devill
17-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Were those two games not officially counted because they were friendlies?
The two before this world cup were the ones against the Aussies.
Aye :)
And we are now holding the record for most games won on a trot :p
Which is in my eyes pretty good seeing as T20 is such a ficle game.
alf101
17-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Were those two games not officially counted because they were friendlies?
The two before this world cup were the ones against the Aussies.
Nope.
Just had a look at van der Merwe's T20i career.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/47850.html?class=3;template=results;type=bowling;v iew=innings
They aren't listed in his 6 games.
Aqua_lung
17-06-2009, 12:05 PM
GUL is the man who holds the key for us reaching the final.
dare I say it though...
:erm:
...We are gonna win :D
GUL is the man who holds the key for us reaching the final.
dare I say it though...
:erm:
...We are gonna win :D
Yay another Paki fan!:)
Gul will be tough, they playing on a slooooow pitch.
Ajmal is key and Afridi!
I hope Younis doesnt let that Malik bowl more than 2 overs!
And the most important is FIELDING!!!!
Good thing is SA seem to have forgotten how to score more than 130 runs!:p
AirWolf
17-06-2009, 12:24 PM
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283307.html
According to % wins the only teams ahead of us are SL and the Pakis.
killadoob
17-06-2009, 12:27 PM
Yay another Paki fan!:)
Gul will be tough, they playing on a slooooow pitch.
Ajmal is key and Afridi!
I hope Younis doesnt let that Malik bowl more than 2 overs!
And the most important is FIELDING!!!!
Good thing is SA seem to have forgotten how to score more than 130 runs!:p
Yet we have not lost :p
Aqua_lung
17-06-2009, 12:35 PM
Yay another Paki fan!:)
Gul will be tough, they playing on a slooooow pitch.
Ajmal is key and Afridi!
I hope Younis doesnt let that Malik bowl more than 2 overs!
And the most important is FIELDING!!!!
Good thing is SA seem to have forgotten how to score more than 130 runs!:p
I meant SA are gonna win :D
I'm a fan of Gul sure, he is one that might hold SA back is what I meant to say :D
Devill
17-06-2009, 12:38 PM
I meant SA are gonna win :D
I'm a fan of Gul sure, he is one that might hold SA back is what I meant to say :D
ROFL now JK8 is alone again :p
// Sings:
Lonely I am so lonely!
The_Pumpkin_King
17-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Pakistan will be bowled out for 64:rolleyes:
chiskop
17-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Pakistan will be bowled out for 64:rolleyes:
lol
Bizkit87
17-06-2009, 01:07 PM
India are going to be immense as are we.
not too good a prediction there, Nostradamus? :D :D :D
anyhow, im glad India is out, cocky bast*rds!
killadoob
17-06-2009, 01:39 PM
not too good a prediction there, Nostradamus? :D :D :D
anyhow, im glad India is out, cocky bast*rds!
Yea well the bookies also thought they would be immense and had them fav with SA :p
Wonder what the odds would have been on india not making the semi's? 30-1 i reckon :D
Damn...
Its fine aqua... you gonna support Pakis in the final right?:)
killadoob
17-06-2009, 01:43 PM
You unpatriotic SOB's :p
Devill
17-06-2009, 01:44 PM
Damn...
Its fine aqua... you gonna support Pakis in the final right?:)
Shurrup! :mad:
The question is: Who are you supporting in the finals SA or Sri lanka?
HypoThesis
17-06-2009, 01:46 PM
Hmmm, me reckon it will be an SA vs Windies final.
chiskop
17-06-2009, 01:47 PM
I think we'll get SL v SA in the final - SA to win.:D
But I have been wrong before.
You unpatriotic SOB's :p
Shurrup! :mad:
The question is: Who are you supporting in the finals SA or Sri lanka?
Come on guys, SA never made it to a final, its just not for them.
Hmmm, me reckon it will be an SA vs Windies final.
Its not a final if you playing for 3rd spot.
HypoThesis
17-06-2009, 01:53 PM
Go away JK8! :D
Aqua_lung
17-06-2009, 02:00 PM
Damn...
Its fine aqua... you gonna support Pakis in the final right?:)
If they're in the finals against sri lanka sure
The question is: Who are you supporting in the finals SA or Sri lanka?
Exactly Paks are not making it to the finals it's, SA vs Sri lanka! :D
krycor
17-06-2009, 02:13 PM
I reckon.. We could have a Windies vs Sa final!
1. Gayle has not performed for a few games.. i think there is a good chance he comes thru the next game.
2. Windies have a scary batting order all the way down and its a long way down. When they field half decently its a tight game.(2 batsmen fire and windies are in the final guaranteed, and yes they due for it)
3. SL rely heavily on their top 6 well top 4 batsmen. Go thru the top order fast and they will be found wanting.Same thing for SA!
4. Pakistan while have an excellent bowling attack with Gul, Afriddi and ??can't think of other spinner name, their batsmen have consistently let them down. Against SA it will be differentiating the factor. If batsman x2 come good SA will be in trouble.
5. MMM of SL is not unique, and SA & Pakistan have a similar trio or quad attack(SA). Windies lack a formidable bowling pair even.
All in All based on game performances it will likely be SA vs SL... but pakistan and windies are the teams which are due for some random luck of explosive players. SA is an allround side comapred to the other 3
AirWolf
18-06-2009, 06:02 AM
SABC3 will not be showing the semis and the final - just checked on tonight.co.za:(. Is this correct?
SABC3 will be showing the first semi final today - was advertised yesterday evening. Not sure about the match tomorrow yet.
chiskop
18-06-2009, 07:02 AM
Alright - Pakistan today.
No cricket last night :( Things got so bad I almost watched soccer.
killadoob
18-06-2009, 07:59 AM
LOL chis the Sa game was actually very entertaining :p
The day of reckoning, can we bring in a new era of chokeless cricket or will the old choking SA take the field today.
chiskop
18-06-2009, 08:05 AM
LOL chis the Sa game was actually very entertaining :p
It was, but I'm not a huge fan of too many sports other than cricket. :)
Picard
18-06-2009, 08:06 AM
Alright - Pakistan today.
No cricket last night :( Things got so bad I almost watched soccer.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Devill
18-06-2009, 09:01 AM
It was, but I'm not a huge fan of too many sports other than cricket. :)
Well I do like rugby, but I love womans beach volleyball :D
krycor
18-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Alright - Pakistan today.
No cricket last night :( Things got so bad I almost watched soccer.
I did(well more like glance at the tv occasionally.. i think they missed a few attempts because the commentator made lots of noise, i really need to learn how soccer is played beyond the ball going into the net cause i have no idea).. and for a change SA team won :eek:
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:33 AM
Pizza cricket omw it's going to be a sweet night :p
I hope i don't choke on my pizza :p don't wannabe like SA dammit :D
Devill
18-06-2009, 09:36 AM
Pizza cricket omw it's going to be a sweet night :p
I hope i don't choke on my pizza :p don't wannabe like SA dammit :D
Lol, think we will have a braai! Woot!
Beer, steak and (hopefully) a winning SA side :D
alf101
18-06-2009, 09:36 AM
Come on guys, SA never made it to a final, its just not for them.
We made it to the ICC ODI championship final and won it.
Devill
18-06-2009, 09:41 AM
We made it to the ICC ODI championship final and won it.
Lol, was about to say the same thing.
Pakistan in a final is horrid.... the fold badly (or is it cause their salaries increase a bit if they do :p j/k)
alf101
18-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Lol, was about to say the same thing.
Pakistan in a final is horrid.... the fold badly (or is it cause their salaries increase a bit if they do :p j/k)
Was just checking the Nottingham weather.
Rain predicted. :(
Better get those calculators out.:erm::o
Devill
18-06-2009, 09:47 AM
Was just checking the Nottingham weather.
Rain predicted. :(
Better get those calculators out.:erm::o
Yeah we all know how bad the maths is in the SA team :o
FFS rain is never and I do mean NEVER kind to us....
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:53 AM
Bloody stupid english weather.
what happens if the game is rained out? Do they have a slot tomorrow for it?
Lol, was about to say the same thing.
Pakistan in a final is horrid.... the fold badly (or is it cause their salaries increase a bit if they do :p j/k)
Ye Pakis are useless in finals...
SA are.... wait they never made a WC final:p
Morgoth
18-06-2009, 10:29 AM
I just read about the Ducckworth-lewish method, shockingly it is based on past scores and not a simple mathematic formula :O
Morgoth
18-06-2009, 10:29 AM
Ye Pakis are useless in finals...
SA are.... wait they never made a WC final:p
1992 Paki WC final ?:S
killadoob
18-06-2009, 10:33 AM
Morgoth there is really no way to set targets dude. I think the ICC needs to be more intelligent and think ok we having a WC in england good chance of rain problems and keep the next day open or something.
Surely they know england is not the best place to have rain free cricket.
chiskop
18-06-2009, 10:38 AM
I just read about the Ducckworth-lewish method, shockingly it is based on past scores and not a simple mathematic formula :O
Well, the formula is based on past scores but not the result. They've derived the formula by looking at past games - this doesn't mean that those games affect the outcome of a particular match where D/L is used.
I think that D/L is okay for 50 over games. I'm not sure that it works or has been properly calibrated for T20 yet.
Morgoth
18-06-2009, 10:40 AM
Morgoth there is really no way to set targets dude. I think the ICC needs to be more intelligent and think ok we having a WC in england good chance of rain problems and keep the next day open or something.
Surely they know england is not the best place to have rain free cricket.
if Wimbledon could afford a roof why cant lords ?:P
killadoob
18-06-2009, 10:40 AM
I think it is rather poor for t20, i mean the WI's had 9 overs to get 80 runs with 10 wickets in hand. Seemed a bit unfair to me.
Morgoth
18-06-2009, 10:43 AM
I think it is rather poor for t20, i mean the WI's had 9 overs to get 80 runs with 10 wickets in hand. Seemed a bit unfair to me.
I don't see though why they cant let the games continue at times? ok yes if another one is scheduled afterwords then it would be a problem, but half the time there is almost a free day left?
Is it raining there today??:eek:
They prepared a new pitch for todays game right? A faster pitch?
Aqua_lung
18-06-2009, 11:03 AM
who's stoked for tonights game? :D
Sly21C
18-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Will the proteas match be televised on SABC?
alf101
18-06-2009, 12:00 PM
Hourly forecast says 60% chance of rain from 5pm. :(
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/hourbyhour/graph/UKXX0104?from=tenDay_topnav_business
killadoob
18-06-2009, 12:02 PM
Well 60% chance is fine :), that leaves 40% chance of no rain :p
Yay for 40% :D
alf101
18-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Well 60% chance is fine :), that leaves 40% chance of no rain :p
Yay for 40% :D
lol
Let's hope so
Hourly forecast says 60% chance of rain from 5pm. :(
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/hourbyhour/graph/UKXX0104?from=tenDay_topnav_business
Crrrrrap!!! Rain till 11 pm tonight:(
But that means its gonna be cloudy so Gul will be on fire!!:)
Hourly forecast says 60% chance of rain from 5pm. :(
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/hourbyhour/graph/UKXX0104?from=tenDay_topnav_business
FFS if we loose because of Duckworthless lewis again ...... :mad:
i'm gonna only have bafana left to cheer for ! and the boks !
we better win regardless of rain,snow,paki's and ugly english women !
Devill
18-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Will the proteas match be televised on SABC?
http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fChannel=6&fSectionId=737
Doesnt look like it :(
killadoob
18-06-2009, 12:05 PM
Should be broadcast, i cannot believe sabc would not have a semi final of world cup.
http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fChannel=6&fSectionId=737
Doesnt look like it :(
It will be televised, all SA games should be... Tomorrow, not sure.
Devill
18-06-2009, 12:05 PM
What happens if no play is possible?
What happens if no play is possible?
Pakis win!:)
krycor
18-06-2009, 12:06 PM
i will be on sabc3! the scheduling is always wrong lately :( [makes me wonder if they didn't except Sa to get this far lol]
don't they keep a day spare incase of rain ???
Pakis win!:)
don't make me smack you ! :mad:
krycor
18-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Pakis win!:)
Within each group (both group stage & Super Eight stage), teams are ranked against each other based on the following criteria:[9]
1. Higher number of points
2. If equal, higher number of wins
3. If still equal, higher net run rate
4. If still equal, lower bowling strike rate
5. If still equal, result of head to head meeting.
But that's Group Stages so not sure if it applies to knockout.. Anyway based on that SA would go thru.:D
ps. I am pretty sure there is a reserve day for semi's and final
Devill
18-06-2009, 12:13 PM
Pakis win!:)
But that's Group Stages so not sure if it applies to knockout.. Anyway based on that SA would go thru.:D
What I thought :D
Maybe for once if the game is not played the rules might assist us :o
killadoob
18-06-2009, 12:14 PM
I am sure they have a spare day for this game, i mean surely they know england's weather is kuk and if they do not have a day spare than i think the icc is being run by a bunch of brainless bafoons :p
O if it is called off we will go through because we are seeded higher jk8 so i dunno but either way way we go through :), cheers paki's hope the icc have a spare day to help you out.
tomorrow's headline - kallis the paki killer
killadoob
18-06-2009, 12:19 PM
No Sa chokes again!!!!!!!! is not a headline i want to see.
krycor
18-06-2009, 12:20 PM
Duckworth-Lewis method after one side bats for the full 20ov still sucks
Devill
18-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Duckworth-Lewis method after one side bats for the full 20ov still sucks
+1 but it is the best we have :(
Duckworthless-Lewis method after one side bats for the full 20ov still sucks
there fixed it for you
AirWolf
18-06-2009, 12:44 PM
SABC3 will be showing the first semi final today - was advertised yesterday evening. Not sure about the match tomorrow yet.
Will the proteas match be televised on SABC?
http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fChannel=6&fSectionId=737
Doesnt look like it :(
It will be televised, all SA games should be... Tomorrow, not sure.
i will be on sabc3! the scheduling is always wrong lately :( [makes me wonder if they didn't except Sa to get this far lol]
Yep, it will be on SABC3.
tomorrow's headline - kallis the paki killer
Hes not playing today...:D
Devill
18-06-2009, 12:50 PM
Hes not playing today...:D
He is :) He just rested for the Indian game.
krycor
18-06-2009, 12:50 PM
kallis is not playing? wtf? how do u know?
According to Cricinfo (http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/content/current/story/409501.html).. "Jacques Kallis will come back in for Morne Morkel after being rested for the dead game against India."
btw pakistan is the only team of the four that went to the semi's in 2007 :eek:
He is :) He just rested for the Indian game.
kallis is not playing? wtf? how do u know?
They blamed him for the low scores...
Hes not playing:)
jk8 is b@ll*****ing ....
kallis is playing !
i suppose you might as well throw you BS around ...
it won't change the outcome of the game
SA thrash PK (uh not pumkin king ...pakistan)
Lol can anyone find a link to an article from 2007 about Kallis being dropped from the twenty20 side?
I want to play a prank on my fellow fantasy league managers!!!:p:p:p
Kallis has a back problem, he was rested, but his back is still an issue...
here's the probable team :
South Africa: (probable) 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Jacques Kallis, 3 Herschelle Gibbs, 4 AB de Villiers, 5 JP Duminy, 6 A Morkel, 7 M Boucher, 8 Johan Botha, 9 Roelof van der Merwe, 10 Wayne Parnell, 11 Dale Steyn
no talk of kallis being left out ...
Devill
18-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Lol can anyone find a link to an article from 2007 about Kallis being dropped from the twenty20 side?
I want to play a prank on my fellow fantasy league managers!!!:p:p:p
Kallis has a back problem, he was rested, but his back is still an issue...
No he could have played in the game against india but the rested him to make sure he will be 100% for today :)
Stephen
18-06-2009, 04:22 PM
Oh I hope this game isnt affected by rain, the shorter the game the more luck comes into it
alf101
18-06-2009, 04:26 PM
2 hours to go...
hj2k_x
18-06-2009, 04:27 PM
Must. Not. Choke.
Stephen
18-06-2009, 04:34 PM
I read here:
http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/engine/series/335113.html?view=pointstable
Near the bottom of the page if it is completely rained off then basically South Africa go through.
If this happens in the final they will share the trophy if they cant get a "Super Over" resolved.
In other words, it must either bucket down, or not all in the semi's. None of this off on jobs
chiskop
18-06-2009, 04:34 PM
Must.Strangle.Pakis.
You guys cant allow your team to win by default...
Thats not fair at all!
chiskop
18-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Of course it's not fair, and all of us here would much rather see the game on the pitch as the the South Africans destroy the haphazard Pakis.
But if the match is rained out - how do you decide who goes through then? Results so far seems like a reasonable way.
DJ...
18-06-2009, 04:41 PM
You guys cant allow your team to win by default...
Thats not fair at all!
Take it up with the ICC - has nothing to do with us. Especially not the fact that on paper and based on performance, we are better than Pakistan in every way. And of course we'd all prefer to watch SA destroy the Pakis on the field...
Stephen
18-06-2009, 04:41 PM
You guys cant allow your team to win by default...
Thats not fair at all!
It would be poetic justice for the Proteas, after what happened in '92 ;)
alf101
18-06-2009, 04:50 PM
It would be poetic justice for the Proteas, after what happened in '92 ;)
I don't think we'd have made 22 off 13 balls in that game.
Stephen
18-06-2009, 04:59 PM
I don't think we'd have made 22 off 13 balls in that game.
One will never now, but the batsmen at the crease were in:
BM McMillan not out 21 41 21 0 0 100.00
DJ Richardson† not out 13 19 10 1 0 130.00
Lol this thread will be fun tomorrow!:)
Go Pakis!!!:D
hj2k_x
18-06-2009, 05:00 PM
One will never now, but the batsmen at the crease were in:
BM McMillan not out 21 41 21 0 0 100.00
DJ Richardson† not out 13 19 10 1 0 130.00
We will never know. But I would back the two of them to do the job, in 1992...
DJ...
18-06-2009, 05:01 PM
Lol this thread will be fun tomorrow!:)
Go Pakis!!!:D
Please post pics of your tail between your legs tomorrow. Friday entertainment FTW!!
Veroland
18-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Can't wait for the game to start! Go Boys!
chiskop
18-06-2009, 05:09 PM
Don't worry JK8 - at least one of your teams made the semis (http://www.cricinfo.com/wwt202009/content/image/409664.html).
Veroland
18-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Don't worry JK8 - at least one of your teams made the semis (http://www.cricinfo.com/wwt202009/content/image/409664.html).
but not much further :D
Veroland
18-06-2009, 05:57 PM
So close to the game start I can almost taste it....
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:01 PM
Hows the weather looking there?
Devill
18-06-2009, 06:03 PM
So close to the game start I can almost taste it....
//
Attention!
Could Vero please stop licking the big screen in the Pub?
Veroland
18-06-2009, 06:11 PM
//
Attention!
Could Vero please stop licking the big screen in the Pub?
You mean the big-ish screen in my lounge? :D
But it's nice, my daughter smeared some sweet all over it
chiskop
18-06-2009, 06:21 PM
Cricinfo make no mention of the rain.
Pak won the toss and will bat first. Probably the last thing they'll win at this WC. :D
I'm actually glad SA is chasing - I think we've been a little conservative in setting targets. We've managed to defend some targets that I thought were below par, but I'd rather chase a target.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:22 PM
Hmm,Paki win the toss nd bat first.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:24 PM
Cricinfo make no mention of the rain.
Pak won the toss and will bat first. Probably the last thing they'll win at this WC. :D
I'm actually glad SA is chasing - I think we've been a little conservative in setting targets. We've managed to defend some targets that I thought were below par, but I'd rather chase a target.
+1 i agree,we will be able to pace our innings nicely knowing what we chasing.Hopefully a small target.
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 06:35 PM
They showed a shot of the clouds above the ground. They look dark and grey :( ...hope it isn't serious.
Akmal looks like he came to play shots today after that one over. If they get around 160 I reckon we'll be alright.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:36 PM
Lovely catch.
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 06:36 PM
Parnell you beuuuuuuuttttttttayyyyy!
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Semi-final is a totally different ball game.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Eish!!
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Haha,thats fine hit ur boundaries we will just keep taking wickets. :)
alternate
18-06-2009, 06:45 PM
A few more wickets should be coming along now :D
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 06:45 PM
:D silly little paki
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Whats going on with the fielding today? Come on boys.
Anyone figure out what Akmal was complaining about when he got out? He looked like he wasn't too impressed with something...
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 06:49 PM
Whats going on with the fielding today? Come on boys.
Anyone figure out what Akmal was complaining about when he got out? He looked like he wasn't too impressed with something...
afraid said wtf!? and akmal said fsck you man! :D
fielding is all over the place though:eek:
lilggg
18-06-2009, 06:49 PM
He just realised his team is gna lose :P
DJ...
18-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Anyone figure out what Akmal was complaining about when he got out? He looked like he wasn't too impressed with something...
It was a fairly full delivery....so he might have been complaining that it was above head hight for him...:D
sand_man
18-06-2009, 06:54 PM
It was a fairly full delivery....so he might have been complaining that it was above head hight for him...:DYou changed your name again Richard? Geezuz... You suffering from an identity crisis? Only people Akmal should be shouting at are his parents with the generic disposition to produce short off spring..
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 06:55 PM
afraid said wtf!? and akmal said fsck you man! :D
:D
It was a fairly full delivery....so he might have been complaining that it was above head hight for him...:D
Parnell could bowl a yorker and it would still be above head height for Akmal :D:D
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 06:57 PM
unlucky for the londeners, all their take aways are closed:p
sand_man
18-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Damn it Afraidi is looking dangerous, looks like SA is going to be chasing a reasonable total tonight, 150-170...
Hell the boys haven't looked all that sharp in the field so far, saving their worst for the semi bloody finals, hope not..
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Damn it Afraidi is looking dangerous, looks like SA is going to be chasing a reasonable total tonight, 150-170...
depends how botha and vd merwe bowl
sand_man
18-06-2009, 07:04 PM
depends how botha and vd merwe bowlYeah they key but Afraidi in this belligerent mood could make mince meat out of them... Is this the same pitch as the other nights game against India? If so the quickies will disappear but once the pace is off the ball it's going to be very difficult to play your shots, need to get spinners on sooner rather than later in that case...
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 07:05 PM
I have all our major national team kits. Boks, Bafana and the old Proteas jersey but I don't think I want to spend money on this one. It's damn fugly. :(
Anywayz, Jakes looks pissed off with Afridi, did you see the kiss Afridi blew at him in the last over? :p
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Yeah they key but Afraidi in this belligerent mood could make mince meat out of them... Is this the same pitch as the other nights game against India? If so the quickies will disappear but once the pace is off the ball it's going to be very difficult to play your shots, need to get spinners on sooner rather than later in that case...
No, its a fresh pitch. 2 down the square from the one used against India.
DJ...
18-06-2009, 07:15 PM
You changed your name again Richard? Geezuz... You suffering from an identity crisis?
I did, Dave, thanks for noticing. You like what I've done with my name? It brings out my punctuation...
Only people Akmal should be shouting at are his parents with the generic disposition to produce short off spring..
Solly, doeth not compute...
lilggg
18-06-2009, 07:21 PM
Any1 a bit worried?Afridi decides to get runs now against us in the semi.
Sting
18-06-2009, 07:23 PM
Time for a wicket...
milomak
18-06-2009, 07:25 PM
trust afridi to come good when i am watching today
lilggg
18-06-2009, 07:27 PM
Theres the wicket :P
Sting
18-06-2009, 07:27 PM
//heart rate returns to normal.
killadoob
18-06-2009, 07:28 PM
W00t w00t
Damn a few more overs of afridi and :eek:
lilggg
18-06-2009, 07:36 PM
they still going well ;/
Sting
18-06-2009, 07:41 PM
I was about to double post my "we need a wicket" plea - and what happens???
WICKET!!
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 07:48 PM
I still think 160 and there abouts is fine. If they get above 170 I'll be a bit worried.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Good bowling parnell.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Not too bad.150 to win.
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Brilliant come back by the bowlers after the damage Afridi did. They only made 149. Nice
killadoob
18-06-2009, 08:02 PM
awesome come back. Now our fielding was kuk, let's hope the batting does not follow suit.
sand_man
18-06-2009, 08:02 PM
I did, Dave, thanks for noticing. You like what I've done with my name? It brings out my punctuation...
Solly, doeth not compute...Name changes but the sense of humour always remains the same, good for you James...:p
chiskop
18-06-2009, 08:03 PM
No boundaries in the last five overs, that's brilliant from Steyn + Parnell.
Of course, we'll always wonder what Abdullah could've done. :rolleyes: :P
sand_man
18-06-2009, 08:04 PM
Yes, it's game on, 150 very getable, we need a good start though and do nothing stupid against the battery of slow part time Paki bowlers who can steal wickets with their nothing balls...
Would love to see Morkel get a shout in early... He needs to be in by the 13th over the latest regardless of the game situation IMO....
placebo
18-06-2009, 08:06 PM
If our batsmen play sensibly we should win this game.The wicket is fast and the Pakis rely on spin.It will be a good match. Go for it AB.
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killadoob
18-06-2009, 08:10 PM
No boundaries in the last five overs, that's brilliant from Steyn + Parnell.
Of course, we'll always wonder what Abdullah could've done. :rolleyes: :P
Bwhahahahaha
Then some retard comes and spams our cricket thread :p, do people think importing kuk into this country is easy? Go spam a decent country where things are easy to import noob :D
Alf is this one of your test buddies? He likes dem 5 day cricket matches right :D
chiskop
18-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Hey! Only jk8 is allowed to spam the cricket threads!
Sting
18-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Cheap Pakistani imports??
lilggg
18-06-2009, 08:30 PM
HAHA,awesome fielding,better bring out the grandpa nd ponado.
chiskop
18-06-2009, 08:33 PM
I could watch that replay over and over again. :D
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Eina! Why do they always catch like that? With their arms stretched out above their heads? No wonder he fell backwards. We were always taught to catch the ball under our eyes. *sigh*
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 08:38 PM
Ag Biff. He never looked comfortable out there, hopefully Gibbs does better. :(
lilggg
18-06-2009, 08:43 PM
OMG,here we go ;/
chiskop
18-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Afridi. :(
Fiekus
18-06-2009, 08:43 PM
boom boom Gibbs gone
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 08:45 PM
Ag Biff. He never looked comfortable out there, hopefully Gibbs does better. :(
Oh well, so much for that idea :erm:
lilggg
18-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Game over i feel.
lilggg
18-06-2009, 08:50 PM
No point winning all ur games if u cnt win the semi's,pakies scrape thru nd prolly gna make final.
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-06-2009, 08:51 PM
Let's hope we don't choke as usual.
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Afridi annoys the crap outta me. Just something about him pisses me off...and no, it's not the fact he is killing us in this game :p
We just have to see out his 4 overs and hopefully Jakes can bat through.
*Dear god of chokers, please release us from your clutches, just this once*
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:00 PM
run rate 10 an over now,nd i doubt we gna get that off their spinners.
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Kallis needs to get out his shell and start hitting
Fiekus
18-06-2009, 09:11 PM
too much to do on that pitch... Gul has just bowled his 1st over :eek:
HypoThesis
18-06-2009, 09:12 PM
I've switched to the football. My heart can't take this anymore. I'd rather we lost in the group stages then in a semi.
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:13 PM
come hypo stop being a sore loser and support man
Kallis out his shell
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Lovely,few more.
Fiekus
18-06-2009, 09:14 PM
some hope there????
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:16 PM
some lets hope
Vercogen
18-06-2009, 09:17 PM
For once im gonna be negative........farking chokers
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Hit the fuskin ball kallis you grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:19 PM
45 off 24
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we cannot choke we need boundries not singles
hj2k_x
18-06-2009, 09:22 PM
I can't believe it :(
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:23 PM
FFS,we've gopt 7 fuking wickets in hand.nd we cnt get it.
sox63
18-06-2009, 09:24 PM
This is painful to watch :(
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:24 PM
omg double step and turn into a full toss
we look screwed
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:24 PM
definately game over.39 off 18.
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:25 PM
between duminy and kallis they are throwing it away with fuskin singles
hj2k_x
18-06-2009, 09:25 PM
39 off 18 :(
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:26 PM
good
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:27 PM
come on albie, he is the game
Smooth Criminal
18-06-2009, 09:28 PM
Duminy going at less than a run a ball is costing us! Guess we'll still be known as chokers for a while longer :(
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 09:28 PM
oh my word the fsckers chocked!:rolleyes:
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:29 PM
Oh yay,a 4.so much for our brilliant batting
lilggg
18-06-2009, 09:29 PM
oh yay another 4 :P
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:29 PM
maybe albie does it
The_Pumpkin_King
18-06-2009, 09:30 PM
last over, go albie!
Smooth Criminal
18-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Yeah i hope Albie pulls it off. He didn't have enough time to play himself in though :(
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:31 PM
albie albie
killadoob
18-06-2009, 09:32 PM
wow duminy needed to go long ago