discourse
07-02-2005, 05:10 AM
Do you think a full one day national boycott of Telscum is possible in SA? If yes, how can we best organise this?
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bb_matt
07-02-2005, 08:11 AM
Impossible unfortunately - the cost to business would be absurd.
What would be fun would be a widespread non-payment boycott :D
What would be fun would be a widespread non-payment boycott :D
MaD
07-02-2005, 10:04 AM
But Telkom was rated the 2nd most loved company in SA.. who will boycott them?! :)
kilps
07-02-2005, 11:58 AM
I had this idea a while back but it just didn't seem worth wile to post - if it was on a Sunday and everyone used cellphones for one day it could work.
Maby it should just be residentual with businesses who can afford it taking part - they could prehaps still show their support by speaking out and maby just using cell phones for outgoing calls - MTN, Vodacom and CellC would have a feild day!
Maby it should just be residentual with businesses who can afford it taking part - they could prehaps still show their support by speaking out and maby just using cell phones for outgoing calls - MTN, Vodacom and CellC would have a feild day!
bb_matt
07-02-2005, 12:32 PM
The best way to tackle Telkom is to use Voip for as many outgoing calls as possible.
That will prompt possible actions, negative or positive :-
1. Negative - increase prices on broadband internet access + cap local traffic
2. Positive - lower thier call rates in line with Voip pricing
That will prompt possible actions, negative or positive :-
1. Negative - increase prices on broadband internet access + cap local traffic
2. Positive - lower thier call rates in line with Voip pricing
tibby.dude
07-02-2005, 10:31 PM
if it was on a Sunday and everyone used cellphones for one day it could work.
Well try again ... Telkom owns 50% of Vodacom.
Anyways this a silly idea ... it is like being a gnat on the back of an elephant.
Well try again ... Telkom owns 50% of Vodacom.
Anyways this a silly idea ... it is like being a gnat on the back of an elephant.
Clipse
08-02-2005, 03:03 AM
Remember skype calls wont work after you are capped to local landlines in SA or overseas landlines nor any Cellphones
So once the cap gets you, there is no escape :D
So once the cap gets you, there is no escape :D
antowan
08-02-2005, 07:44 AM
Sozzeee! Had to move it from the hardware section to here. I believe we might need a section of the forum totally dedicated to activism issues, right?
Anyway, here it is.
Regards
Ant
Anyway, here it is.
Regards
Ant
kilps
08-02-2005, 07:44 AM
Even though Telkom owns 50% of Voadcom they will be effected by no landline calls - :-))
Gooku
08-02-2005, 09:42 AM
Sozzeee! Had to move it from the hardware section to here. I believe we might need a section of the forum totally dedicated to activism issues, right?
Anyway, here it is.
Regards
Ant
I think the deregulation forum can be moded to
comsumerism & deregulations
Allow members /consumers to assert our rights.
Anyway, here it is.
Regards
Ant
I think the deregulation forum can be moded to
comsumerism & deregulations
Allow members /consumers to assert our rights.
martin
08-02-2005, 10:01 AM
I think the deregulation forum can be moded to
comsumerism & deregulations
Allow members /consumers to assert our rights.
Not a bad idea. The deregulation section is not that busy and the two do seem to fit together.
comsumerism & deregulations
Allow members /consumers to assert our rights.
Not a bad idea. The deregulation section is not that busy and the two do seem to fit together.
Gooku
08-02-2005, 10:28 AM
Do you think a full one day national boycott of Telscum is possible in SA? If yes, how can we best organise this?
Boycott is not necessary at this point in time.
(brandband)consumers can vote Telkom out with wallets.Choose Sentech,iBurst ,SNO.....
fix-line local-call cost is a problem,lets see what impacts VOIP can make on the market .........
Boycott is not necessary at this point in time.
(brandband)consumers can vote Telkom out with wallets.Choose Sentech,iBurst ,SNO.....
fix-line local-call cost is a problem,lets see what impacts VOIP can make on the market .........
antowan
09-02-2005, 09:12 AM
The sad thing is, if VOIP hurts Telkom, government will have (to their minds) more insentive to outlaw it. The chances of them thinking "hey, this stuff can really be a good alternative to the traditional phone" is remote...
I do however hope they see the light.
Cheers
Ant
I do however hope they see the light.
Cheers
Ant
Decotey
09-02-2005, 11:16 PM
i dont think its possible
Gooku
10-02-2005, 07:52 AM
i dont think its possible
It IS possible .
We are capable of launching successful campagin of any kind.
And it is within consumer's right to do so.
Ever since the begining of civilization or invention of commerce itself.
Buyers Always have the right to negotiate,complain,bargain with sellers
Therefor consumer's right is in fact .one of the oldest right never documented.
Our ancestors had been excercising this right long before any constitution is written.Even before monetary transactions took place,buyers bargain with sellers during batter trades - for better deals.
It IS possible .
We are capable of launching successful campagin of any kind.
And it is within consumer's right to do so.
Ever since the begining of civilization or invention of commerce itself.
Buyers Always have the right to negotiate,complain,bargain with sellers
Therefor consumer's right is in fact .one of the oldest right never documented.
Our ancestors had been excercising this right long before any constitution is written.Even before monetary transactions took place,buyers bargain with sellers during batter trades - for better deals.
kilps
10-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Well if we all chip in R20 we could get to R59280 - enough (i think) to launch a tv and radio campain - though we could be sued for causeing mass rioting . . .
Gooku
10-02-2005, 11:07 PM
though we could be sued for causeing mass rioting . . .
Not at all,consumer mass action is protected by constitution.As long as it is done in a peaceful manner,no weapons or violence involved.
Not at all,consumer mass action is protected by constitution.As long as it is done in a peaceful manner,no weapons or violence involved.
kilps
11-02-2005, 11:24 AM
I know that - just people might turn violent and bring out the weapons once they see how Telkom is ripping us off :-)
discourse
11-02-2005, 06:21 PM
i think a boycott would be very successful. it worked in nigeria where mtn was forced to lower prices. here is the link (http://www.fingaz.co.zw/fingaz/2003/September/September25/1345.shtml)
discourse
11-02-2005, 06:23 PM
also, i would gladly donate R20 and beleive me, the masses will out for a march on parliament or a march on telkom offices.
Gooku
12-02-2005, 11:51 AM
Discourse
You have been reading my old posts :)
Boycott is an option and always has been .
But the best timming is not right NOW.
You have been reading my old posts :)
Boycott is an option and always has been .
But the best timming is not right NOW.
discourse
14-02-2005, 08:40 PM
i have officially started my boycott by switching from vodacom to cell c and cancelling all my telkom lines. what more can i do (* looks over to the hellkom logo stickers)