The Ashes, fiercest rivalry in world sport?

[HypoThesis]

One of the commentators at the start of Australia's game against the Windies said something along the lines of "so begins the Australians on their journey at the beginning of an Ashes summer":mad: At the beginning of a world cup?

I mean, WTF? The Fiercest rivalry in WORLD SPORT according to this genius: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jun/07/vic-marks-ashes-preview Seems like USA vs Russia in hockey doesn't count, nor the Boks vs the All Blacks, nor Brazil vs Argentina in football, India vs Pakistan, Liverpool vs Manchester Utd etc etc etc

Even during the Aussie tour recently all their media seemed to be concerned about was injuries for the Ashes. Wish the whole thing gets rained out :D

[Morgoth]

The Ashes is only mabe a big fuss of, because it is the first test series, it is nothing more special then SA vs Aus though,

[milomak]

it always irrtates me when commentators make out the ashes is the be all and end all of cricket

[chiskop]

Both Eng and Aus caught short so far in the T20 World Cup.

[ubercal]

One of the commentators at the start of Australia's game against the Windies said something along the lines of "so begins the Australians on their journey at the beginning of an Ashes summer":mad: At the beginning of a world cup?

I mean, WTF? The Fiercest rivalry in WORLD SPORT according to this genius: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jun/07/vic-marks-ashes-preview Seems like USA vs Russia in hockey doesn't count, nor the Boks vs the All Blacks, nor Brazil vs Argentina in football, India vs Pakistan, Liverpool vs Manchester Utd etc etc etc

Even during the Aussie tour recently all their media seemed to be concerned about was injuries for the Ashes. Wish the whole thing gets rained out :D

The biggest rivaliers in sport are 99% football aka soccer.

Milan vs Inter , Boca vs River plate , Celtic vs rangers , zamalek vs Al ahley , Roma vs Lazio , Barca vs Real Madrid

[stefan9]

Its not even the fiercest in cricket, is the oldest but noway its worse than india vs pakistan.

[HypoThesis]

Would make me so happy if the English lose today and the Aussies lose tomorrow so they can get to their Ashes training early ;)

[iceman23]

lol chiefs vs pirates is bigger rivalry than that...

[theratman]

Its not even the fiercest in cricket, is the oldest but noway its worse than india vs pakistan.
That imho is the biggest rivalry in cricket


lol chiefs vs pirates is bigger rivalry than that...

The Soweto derby is huge,massive!

I think I hate the ashes just because I absolutly hate the english and aus cricket teams.I'm a bigot and I don't care :D

[alf101]

The biggest rivaliers in sport are 99% football aka soccer.

Milan vs Inter , Boca vs River plate , Celtic vs rangers , zamalek vs Al ahley , Roma vs Lazio , Barca vs Real Madrid

There aren't too many international soccer rivalries going on.
They should play best of 3 Soccer tests.
Brazil vs Germany or England vs Argentina would be cool to watch. :)


Back to cricket, yes Ashes in 2005 was great, but England won't win for another 15 years.

Ind vs Pak and Ind vs Aus are the 2 biggest rivalries currently.

[killadoob]

Why do you say england won't win? The aussies are so poor i think england have a great chance of nailing them.

[chiskop]

Why do you say england won't win? The aussies are so poor i think england have a great chance of nailing them.

England are so great either.

I have no doubt that both SL and WI would've beaten England, playing the way they've done so far in the World Cup.

(Admitably, Eng clobbered WI recently, but Gayle didn't really bother to turn up for those games.)

[alf101]

Why do you say england won't win? The aussies are so poor i think england have a great chance of nailing them.

The Aussies main weakness is not a having a spinner, England's only good player is KP (and he's recieving injections for pain).

Flintoff is probably going to be injured - he can't look after himself.

Aussies will probably take it 3-1 with 1 draw.

[killadoob]

The aussies main weakness is not having enough quality in a few departments.

While chis i agree england are not that great either i just feel the aussies are on a bad downward spiral in terms of talent. sure gayle helped the WI but when gayle hit a ton against us we still beat them.

[alf101]

The aussies main weakness is not having enough quality in a few departments.

While chis i agree england are not that great either i just feel the aussies are on a bad downward spiral in terms of talent. sure gayle helped the WI but when gayle hit a ton against us we still beat them.

You talking about T20 or test cricket? :confused:

Don't see the WI beating Aus in Test cricket anytime soon.
Holland beat England in a T20 and they won't beat them in test cricket.

The Aussies must have used about 30 different players against us in the summer - plenty of depth there in batting and fast bowling, just no good spinner.

[chiskop]

You talking about T20 or test cricket? :confused:

Don't see the WI beating Aus in Test cricket anytime soon.
Holland beat England in a T20 and they won't beat them in test cricket.

The Aussies must have used about 30 different players against us in the summer - plenty of depth there in batting and fast bowling, just no good spinner.

Agreed. I don't see the Netherlands beating anyone in Test cricket just yet (even if they were allowed to play).

I loved Bumble's comment on Haurtiz: "I also notice Nathan Hauritz is included, so there's no spinners."

:D

[Devill]

There aren't too many international soccer rivalries going on.
They should play best of 3 Soccer tests.
Brazil vs Germany or England vs Argentina would be cool to watch. :)


Back to cricket, yes Ashes in 2005 was great, but England won't win for another 15 years.

Ind vs Pak and Ind vs Aus are the 2 biggest rivalries currently.

No SA vs Aus? Im sure the two top teams in the world have a pretty fierce rivalry....


England are not so great either.


Fixed it mr Nazi :p

[chiskop]

Fixed it mr Nazi :p

Bloody pedant. :rolleyes:

[Devill]

Bloody pedant. :rolleyes:

I just want to help :p

[alf101]

No SA vs Aus? Im sure the two top teams in the world have a pretty fierce rivalry....



Not yet, but getting there.
Remember that we've been getting pwned by the Aussies for about 15 years in Test cricket.
We also got the famous "chokers" tag from them in the ODI rivalry.

We've got the best T20 side imo, so hopefully we can win this tournament and get rid of it.

As far as media coverage goes, the Ashes is huge.
Now if England were to win the first test, there will be a frenzy.
The Aussies are already pissed that the first one won't be played at Lords (England don't win there).

As for the best test team, don't forget about Sri Lanka.
SA have a great side, but I think they'll beat us.
They may just beat the Aussies as well.
They've got an awesome bowling attack, and their batting is pretty good.

If any of the top Test team's is on the decline, I'd say that would be India.

[chiskop]

If any of the top Test team's is on the decline, I'd say that would be India.

What?

India have lost a few senior players recently, guys like Kumble and Ganguly, but unlike Aus, India seem to have a steady stream of young players coming through: Raina, Badrinath, Chawla, Ishant etc. India is a great team, and will be for a while still, imo.

[Devill]

Not yet, but getting there.
Remember that we've been getting pwned by the Aussies for about 15 years in Test cricket.
We also got the famous "chokers" tag from them in the ODI rivalry.

We've got the best T20 side imo, so hopefully we can win this tournament and get rid of it.

As far as media coverage goes, the Ashes is huge.
Now if England were to win the first test, there will be a frenzy.
The Aussies are already pissed that the first one won't be played at Lords (England don't win there).

As for the best test team, don't forget about Sri Lanka.
SA have a great side, but I think they'll beat us.
They may just beat the Aussies as well.
They've got an awesome bowling attack, and their batting is pretty good.

If any of the top Test team's is on the decline, I'd say that would be India.

Mmm funny how I remember that we were one of the few teams to actually give Uas a go in the last couple of years... Remember fanie bowling them out after we set them a mere 117 runs to win? Did we not draw that series?

At that time and for the next 10 years we were IMO the only team to keep giving the Aussies a go on a regular basis.

I do agree the media coverage the Ashes get is awesome. Also Sri lank is not a bad team but they are not at the top yet. I am sure we will beat them atm if we played here in SA and 10-1 draw lose 2-1 or 1-0 to them if we played there.

[alf101]

What?

India have lost a few senior players recently, guys like Kumble and Ganguly, but unlike Aus, India seem to have a steady stream of young players coming through: Raina, Badrinath, Chawla, Ishant etc. India is a great team, and will be for a while still, imo.

They're losing Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman in a few years.
They'll be still be good at home, but away from home, they're not going to be very good (only in recent years have they started winning matches away).

[alf101]

Mmm funny how I remember that we were one of the few teams to actually give Uas a go in the last couple of years... Remember fanie bowling them out after we set them a mere 117 runs to win? Did we not draw that series?

At that time and for the next 10 years we were IMO the only team to keep giving the Aussies a go on a regular basis.

Yes, that first series we did well to draw.
Then there was around 15 years, where we got beaten.
I think there was one drawn series in that time, not sure.

[Devill]

Yes, that first series we did well to draw.
Then there was around 15 years, where we got beaten.
I think there was one drawn series in that time, not sure.

Yes and so did the other teams you mentioned ;)

IIRC we were the first team to win there since the Windies....

[alf101]

Yes and so did the other teams you mentioned ;)

IIRC we were the first team to win there since the Windies....

Yep, that was a great win for us. :)
Pity we messed up in the 1st test back here. :(

[Devill]

Yep, that was a great win for us. :)
Pity we messed up in the 1st test back here. :(

Yeah... All I am saying is we were the only team to really give aus a go in the last 10-15 years... But we were still bullied by them a lot:p

Think atm its between us and India who will de-throne the Aussies in the ODIs and who will take the pro20 WC home.

[alf101]

Yeah... All I am saying is we were the only team to really give aus a go in the last 10-15 years... But we were still bullied by them a lot:p

Think atm its between us and India who will de-throne the Aussies in the ODIs and who will take the pro20 WC home.

Nope, India have been beating them in India most of the time.
They've come pretty close to beating them in Aus as well.

Sri Lanka beat them in Sri Lanka.

England won the 2005 Ashes, let us not forget that.;)
They got pwned 5-0 next time around.

West Indies also beat them a few times in that time.
(Brian Lara did)


Pretty much between India and SA, the T20.
But who knows...

[killadoob]

India and SA look set to dominate world cricket in my opinion regardless of what form.

Pro 20 i dunno hey, if gayle gets going they beat anyone and let's not right the sri lankens off just yet because they pose a big threat.

[alf101]

India and SA look set to dominate world cricket in my opinion regardless of what form.

Pro 20 i dunno hey, if gayle gets going they beat anyone and let's not right the sri lankens off just yet because they pose a big threat.

Gayle is a great player and can probably win 1 in 5 games for WI, which is pretty good.

SA have guys like Smith, De Villiers and Gibbs who are as good as him, or better.

[killadoob]

We have more than that actually but anyhoo, we have atleast 6-8 gayle's if you ask me.

Not the exact same style but as capable, that is why i feel we are so strong at the moment, my point was even though the WI are rather poor one good innings from gayle can win a game for them and in a once off game in pro 20 you never know what can happen. It is not quite as predictable as 50 over or tests.

[alf101]

We have more than that actually but anyhoo, we have atleast 6-8 gayle's if you ask me.

Not the exact same style but as capable that is why i feel we are so strong at the moment, my point was even though the WI are rather poor one good innings from gayle can win a game for them and in a once off game in pro 20 you never know what can happen. It is not quite as predictable as 50 over or tests.

I agree with u killa.
It happens...;)

[Devill]

Nope, India have been beating them in India most of the time.
They've come pretty close to beating them in Aus as well.

Sri Lanka beat them in Sri Lanka.

England won the 2005 Ashes, let us not forget that.;)
They got pwned 5-0 next time around.

West Indies also beat them a few times in that time.
(Brian Lara did)


Pretty much between India and SA, the T20.
But who knows...

Well we did beat them in Aus ;)

[Morgoth]

The ipl turned india into a T20 super power, the only team who can beat them at the moment is SA,

[OzzieCapie]

The Ashes is only mabe a big fuss of, because it is the first test series, it is nothing more special then SA vs Aus though,

How so?

Or is this another of those SA (like Aus) sports believers comments, that "ours is bigger/better than yours'.

Objectively, the SA-Aus 'rivalry' pales by comparison, and so do all the other test series' in cricket...objectively.

Measure the rate at which tickets are snapped up, the % capacity in grounds, the amount of TV coverage/advertising, the profitability etc etc....oh and the amount of barmy-army backpackers trekking around the world.

Australia for example (as much as SA want it) will always hold onto the Boxing Day slot...because they actually fill a bloody 100,000 seat stadium..and they do so as soon as tickets go on sale, almost like an AC-DC concert...not saying AC-DC's good, but the point is the people interest is bloody higher than the grounds in SA where even with half the tickets given out, the stadium is still empty.

There are stuff that SA does better than Aus, or have an higher interest in. Rugby Union...higher interest, more players etc. Cricket no, Aus have a higher interest in cricket in terms of numbers of kids, grade cricketers etc.
Running..SA wins hands down, Comrades, Two Oceans etc 20,000 runners , fantastic on course spectators etc...Aus virtually non-existent.

Just be objective and stopping pissing in your own pond.....not everything is bigger or better in one's own country.

cheers:)

[Devill]

The ipl turned india into a T20 super power, the only team who can beat them at the moment is SA,

Don't be so sure, sri lanka is dangerous.


How so?

Or is this another of those SA (like Aus) sports believers comments, that "ours is bigger/better than yours'.

Objectively, the SA-Aus 'rivalry' pales by comparison, and so do all the other test series' in cricket...objectively.

Measure the rate at which tickets are snapped up, the % capacity in grounds, the amount of TV coverage/advertising, the profitability etc etc....oh and the amount of barmy-army backpackers trekking around the world.

Australia for example (as much as SA want it) will always hold onto the Boxing Day slot...because they actually fill a bloody 100,000 seat stadium..and they do so as soon as tickets go on sale, almost like an AC-DC concert...not saying AC-DC's good, but the point is the people interest is bloody higher than the grounds in SA where even with half the tickets given out, the stadium is still empty.

There are stuff that SA does better than Aus, or have an higher interest in. Rugby Union...higher interest, more players etc. Cricket no, Aus have a higher interest in cricket in terms of numbers of kids, grade cricketers etc.
Running..SA wins hands down, Comrades, Two Oceans etc 20,000 runners , fantastic on course spectators etc...Aus virtually non-existent.

Just be objective and stopping pissing in your own pond.....not everything is bigger or better in one's own country.

cheers:)

Now it just got a bit boring there for the last 25 years... with england winning twice IIRC in that time. Best / Fiercest rivalries are not so one sided.

Notice how the test matches SA vs Aus was sold out? Also note that all 6 tests had a result...... Now that is fierce rivalry.

Oh and ps us south africans hate the Aussies in the sporting arena right accross the board.

[chiskop]

Don't be so sure, sri lanka is dangerous.
I agree, and I also think that T20 is a lot closer than tests / ODIs. Any team can beat another on their day - as WI showed Aus and NED showed Eng.


Oh and ps us south africans hate the Aussies in the sporting arena right accross the board.
I think OzzieCapie probably knows that more than most.

[OzzieCapie]

Now it just got a bit boring there for the last 25 years... with england winning twice IIRC in that time. Best / Fiercest rivalries are not so one sided.


Not the Aussies fault surely...the Poms had their time in the sun.
...and btw, a lot of the other rivalries listed (celtic/rangers etc) even more one sided in the context of the league they are in.



Notice how the test matches SA vs Aus was sold out? Also note that all 6 tests had a result...... Now that is fierce rivalry.

The Aussie home games are always packed and Melburnians in particular are so mad about sport (or perhaps deprived) that they may even get 100,000 to MCG for 'pick up sticks' comp....
...but the SA home games were not sold out, esp the weekdays and even the weekend ones were reliant on freebies....well that's what I heard here;)



I think OzzieCapie probably knows that more than most.

Yep I do...but remember I still back the saffers...my member is still dangling in the Indian Ocean:eek:

[Devill]

Not the Aussies fault surely...the Poms had their time in the sun.
...and btw, a lot of the other rivalries listed (celtic/rangers etc) even more one sided in the context of the league they are in.


Well the poms don't count as they are a bit daft at the best of times. :p
Also "footie" < Cricket and rugby :D

Is a fight between a fox and a lion fierce? No but a fight between a leopard and a lion might be a bit more fierce...

My point is that yes there is a great history surrounding the Ashes but that does not make it the fiercest. The tests between Aus and SA were on a knife's edge the whole time and that is what made it fierce.

[Morgoth]

test cricket is quite a big thing in Aus and England, some of us find it to boring and slow.

[chiskop]

Yep I do...but remember I still back the saffers...my member is still dangling in the Indian Ocean:eek:

TMI :sick: :D

[Devill]

test cricket is quite a big thing in Aus and England, some of us find it to boring and slow.

Well then some of us should learn what the game of cricket is all about.... ;)

[Morgoth]

Well then some of us should learn what the game of cricket is all about.... ;)

true, although I do believe the reason why other nations struggle to grow in cricket is because test cricket is considered to be the end all of cricket, T20 is the future I wish the ICC would start to realize it. Lets face it, you play a game for 5 days and then at times you still cant decide who won.

[Devill]

true, although I do believe the reason why other nations struggle to grow in cricket is because test cricket is considered to be the end all of cricket, T20 is the future I wish the ICC would start to realize it. Lets face it, you play a game for 5 days and then at times you still cant decide who won.

Yes but the thing is, test cricket shows us who the really good batsmen / bowlers are.

I agree that T20 and ODIs should be played in all the countries to get them to start playing cricket. (heard something about a USA T20 tourney)

I love ODIs and T20s but Test cricket is the ultimate to watch when it between two teams like SA and Aus.

[Morgoth]

Yes but the thing is, test cricket shows us who the really good batsmen / bowlers are.

I agree that T20 and ODIs should be played in all the countries to get them to start playing cricket. (heard something about a USA T20 tourney)

I love ODIs and T20s but Test cricket is the ultimate to watch when it between two teams like SA and Aus.

it shows endurance, but not necessarily better players, T20 imho is under accredited for the skill required, its not just about tonking and slogging.
Test cricket is nice to watch on a holiday/ sunday afternoon.

[Devill]

it shows endurance, but not necessarily better players, T20 imho is under accredited for the skill required, its not just about tonking and slogging.
Test cricket is nice to watch on a holiday/ sunday afternoon.

Yes because R. vd Merwe is a great bat judging by his T20 performance.... Doubt if he will get a 50 in 50 tries for SA in test cricket.

T20 is very nice, and I like that it is changing the way we look at cricket and some of it is even filtering into test cricket.

But T20 < ODI < Test for me thanks.

[Morgoth]

Yes because R. vd Merwe is a great bat judging by his T20 performance.... Doubt if he will get a 50 in 50 tries for SA in test cricket.

T20 is very nice, and I like that it is changing the way we look at cricket and some of it is even filtering into test cricket.

But T20 < ODI < Test for me thanks.

The same can be said for Stuard Broad ?> .......his **** regardless.
Vd. Merwe is a good bowler and should play in the 50:50, his batting style is quite obvious, Mr6 or Mr, niks.

[Devill]

The same can be said for Stuard Broad ?> .......his **** regardless.
Vd. Merwe is a good bowler and should play in the 50:50, his batting style is quite obvious, Mr6 or Mr, niks.

In tests if you batted like that it might work once every 100 innings.

I agree he is good enough for the ODIs and T20 but a player like that is not ready (might never be ready) for test cricket.

[silent_shadow]

Test cricket is definitely of a higher quality and everyone who watches cricket often would know this. Most importantly, the players know test cricket is the greatest form and most still don't take T20 that seriously.
Look at our tests series victory in Aus. That achievement was something no T20 tournament could equal, it's even on par with the World Cup.

[Morgoth]

Test cricket is definitely of a higher quality and everyone who watches cricket often would know this. Most importantly, the players know test cricket is the greatest form and most still don't take T20 that seriously.
Look at our tests series victory in Aus. That achievement was something no T20 tournament could equal, it's even on par with the World Cup.

to me it is 2 different games, test cricket and T20, weather the ICC likes it or not will eventually end up as 2 separate games.

[silent_shadow]

I think the ICC will try use T20 to attract people from other countries to the game. A good tactic actually, but the amount of T20 tournaments will hopefully stop growing. Otherwise T20 will go into overkill and people will get sick of it, just like has happened with ODIs. A good mixture between the 3 is good I think and keeps everyone happy.

[alf101]

I think the ICC will try use T20 to attract people from other countries to the game. A good tactic actually, but the amount of T20 tournaments will hopefully stop growing. Otherwise T20 will go into overkill and people will get sick of it, just like has happened with ODIs. A good mixture between the 3 is good I think and keeps everyone happy.

There's another big T20 happening soon.

Johannesburg, May 25 (IANS) Indian Premier League (IPL) chairman and commissioner Lalit Modi said the Twenty20 Champions League has been provided a slot in the International Cricket Council’s (ICC) calendar.
“The Champions League has already been slotted in the ICC’s FTP (Future Tours Programme). IPL and other domestic tournaments around the world have to find their own windows. We haven’t asked for an FTP commitment as far as that is concerned.

“For an international tournament of this magnitude and this quality, we are working with all the member countries and the ICC and we have together come out with the dates of the Champions League to benefit everybody,” Modi was quoted as saying in the IPL official website Monday.

Twelve teams will contest in the inaugural Champions League Twenty20 (CLT20) tournament to be played in India from Oct 8-23.


There's also going to be a 2nd IPL played every year.
And then England are having one.
Also a Southern Hemisphere one.

So 5 big ones every year, plus the T20 World cup every 2nd year.

Some players will probably end up playing more than 50 T20 games a year.

[silent_shadow]

Just reading all that makes me sick of T20. The ICC are just shooting themselves in the foot if they do this. The whole excitement of T20 is that it's innovative and modern and a change from tests.

[alf101]

Just reading all that makes me sick of T20. The ICC are just shooting themselves in the foot if they do this. The whole excitement of T20 is that it's innovative and modern and a change from tests.

I'm getting pretty bored of T20 already, same thing over and over...

There's going to be a lot less domestic 1st class cricket played, and I'm thinking that the 50 overs games is going to start to disappear quickly after the 2011 World cup. Especially if its as boring as the last one.

There's still the ICC trophy (50 overs) to be played this year, and that's usually boring.

[Devill]

I'm getting pretty bored of T20 already, same thing over and over...

There's going to be a lot less domestic 1st class cricket played, and I'm thinking that the 50 overs games is going to start to disappear quickly after the 2011 World cup. Especially if its as boring as the last one.

There's still the ICC trophy (50 overs) to be played this year, and that's usually boring.

They are looking to change the ODI game. Thinking of changing it so that every team bats twice for 25 overs. No idea if every innings you will have 10 wickets (which IMO is stupid) or if it will be 10 wickets over the two innings.

[AirWolf]

They are looking to change the ODI game. Thinking of changing it so that every team bats twice for 25 overs. No idea if every innings you will have 10 wickets (which IMO is stupid) or if it will be 10 wickets over the two innings.

A hybrid test-odi - interesting concept. Not so sure how it will be received though. Might turn into a T20 style 2 innings slogout:p.

[Devill]

A hybrid test-odi - interesting concept. Not so sure how it will be received though. Might turn into a T20 style 2 innings slogout:p.

That would make me :(

[alf101]

They are looking to change the ODI game. Thinking of changing it so that every team bats twice for 25 overs. No idea if every innings you will have 10 wickets (which IMO is stupid) or if it will be 10 wickets over the two innings.

Think they tried that in the 90's.

They also tried day/night 1st class matches in Oz. Never worked well.

Wonder what happened to playing ODI cricket indoor, we played Oz indoor some years ago.
I think the 1st few T20's in England were also played indoors.

[killadoob]

I'm getting pretty bored of T20 already, same thing over and over...



Your IQ dropped yet?

Strange that you even watch it alf.

The t20 world is kuk boring at the moment but it's going to heat up in the next few days :). The days of 50 over cricket are fast coming to an end.

[alf101]

Your IQ dropped yet?

Strange that you even watch it alf.

The t20 world is kuk boring at the moment but it's going to heat up in the next few days :). The days of 50 over cricket are fast coming to an end.

;)
Never said I don't watch it.

[Morgoth]

The ICC will have to realize that we do not have 4-5 days to watch a game anymore, the T20 being 2-3 hours is perfect for the working person hence it is more popular.

[killadoob]

Yup 4-5 days is just crazy if you ask me, specially on a pitch that is hard to score runs, then you simply block out a draw for 5 days.

OMG BORING. Limit 5 day cricket to x amount of overs, say 115 overs an innings or something. Call it something else as well as it may not always make 5 days but then many tests do not make 4 days :p, get teams wanting to win and not wanting to draw and then it will be more exciting, the aussies play awesome 5 day cricket because their main goal is not to block 90% of the deliveries.

[chiskop]

Call it something else as well as it may not always make 5 days but then many tests do not make 4 days

Okay, why don't we call it, I don't know, Test cricket? :D

[killadoob]

LOL :erm:

Maybe limited test cricket :p

change the names

Pro 20
Pro 50
Pro 115

Anyone get the feeling the test lovers have their forks ready? :D

[alf101]

Yup 4-5 days is just crazy if you ask me, specially on a pitch that is hard to score runs, then you simply block out a draw for 5 days.

OMG BORING. Limit 5 day cricket to x amount of overs, say 115 overs an innings or something. Call it something else as well as it may not always make 5 days but then many tests do not make 4 days :p, get teams wanting to win and not wanting to draw and then it will be more exciting, the aussies play awesome 5 day cricket because their main goal is not to block 90% of the deliveries.

They should bring back "timeless" tests.

[killadoob]

LOL alf it is not what you think man, i know you love 5 day dude but seriously timeless does not mean what you think :p, although that would be your cuppa tea if it meant what you think :D

[chiskop]

LOL alf it is not what you think man, i know you love 5 day dude but seriously timeless does not mean what you think :p, although that would be your cuppa tea if it meant what you think :D

Typical thought process of a low-IQ T20 fan. :rolleyes:

(killa - I'm just kidding :D)

[alf101]

LOL alf it is not what you think man, i know you love 5 day dude but seriously timeless does not mean what you think :p, although that would be your cuppa tea if it meant what you think :D

:)
I reckon 4 days is enough time to get a result, especially now that there are so many minnows playing.
Perhaps the ICC should let the teams decide before the series if they want 4 or 5 day tests.

(Btw, there were timeless tests played many moons ago, there also used to be a rest day during the match.)

[killadoob]

Typical thought process of a low-IQ T20 fan. :rolleyes:

(killa - I'm just kidding :D)

Hahaha :p