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Sackboy
17-07-2009, 12:23 PM
The Sentiment (sic) might be expropriated by SANParks

July 17, 2009 Edition 2

Staff Writer

SA National Parks (SANParks) may expropriate the Sentinel, a Hout Bay landmark it believes should form part of the Table Mountain National Park.

It will also "strongly oppose" any move to build new access roads across its land to reach the Sentinel, which is surrounded on all sides by the national park.

These two factors, and the violent protest on Wednesday by members of the local community opposed to the sale of the Sentinel, are likely to make prospective buyers hesitant about becoming the new owner of the mountain peak.

About 300 protesters held a demonstration outside the Chapman's Peak Hotel, where the auction of the Sentinel was taking place. When the crowd started throwing stones, police fired rubber bullets and stun grenades to disperse them. The auction was called off and no arrests were made.

One of the registered bidders, who spoke to the Cape Times on condition of anonymity, said yesterday the auctioneers, the Julius Buchinsky Group, had said the Sentinel owners had refused an offer of R15 million and that bidding would start at R10m.

"But there were no bids at all. Then when all the hassle started outside, the whole thing was abandoned," he said.

The Sentinel is owned by G&R Marine Services, which bought the land in 2004 for R468 000. Mike Slayen, of Table Mountain National Park, said registered valuers had put the value of the Sentinel at R500 000.

The valuers had taken into consideration the rugged nature of the terrain, not conducive to development, and the rural zoning, which allowed only a single dwelling.

"We are exploring all options, including expropriation," Slayen said.

Leno de Villiers, of Julius Buchinsky, said SANParks had not told it that it was considering expropriation.

"The SA Revenue Service put the value at R11m, which it did when one of the owners died. The amount SANParks is offering is just unrealistic," De Villiers said. He said because of the outcry from the pubic, it would hold a private bid.

Hangberg residents fear the new owners will fence off the land and they will no longer have access to it.

Isaac James, chairman of the Hout Bay Civic Association, said: "The city council should buy the property and build houses there for us. We want houses."Cape Times 17th July 2009
I think the whole idea of selling mountains is ridiculous and Zille should have acted quickly and taken it back into public hands. Just look at the vultures in the form of Oprah Winfrey, Sol Kerzner and others gathering around to try and get the naming rights. I sometimes wish they would just buzz off.:mad:

Venom Rush
17-07-2009, 12:37 PM
He said because of the outcry from the pubic, it would hold a private bid.

LOL!

/lame moment over

Mila
17-07-2009, 12:53 PM
So it's oke to build a high way through a heritage site but not sell a mountain?

Sackboy
17-07-2009, 01:00 PM
So it's oke to build a high way through a heritage site but not sell a mountain?
The mountain was sold during a council free-for-all period. Lots of houses were also given permission to build higher up the mountain as well (and we see the result). It should never have happened. They have(had) the opportunity to reverse this. I wonder if they will take it?

Mila
17-07-2009, 01:03 PM
Why cry about a mountain but no one is saying anything about the highway?

Sackboy
17-07-2009, 01:10 PM
Why cry about a mountain but no one is saying anything about the highway?Stuff the highway. We can always demolish it, build another one or turn it into an airport. The mountain is priceless and belongs to everyone who lives in Cape Town.

Mila
17-07-2009, 01:13 PM
Stuff the highway. We can always demolish it, build another one or turn it into an airport. The mountain is priceless and belongs to everyone who lives in Cape Town.

But the heritage sites and the eclogical fragile state and wetlands of those part of KZN and the parks and stuff does not belong to the people?

Slootvreter
17-07-2009, 01:27 PM
That whole mountain is really not worth much, it seems! :eek: Even a local guy could buy it!

Mila
17-07-2009, 01:34 PM
They just angry because they did not squat there first.

Slootvreter
17-07-2009, 01:35 PM
They just angry because they did not squat there first.

True :mad:

Mila
17-07-2009, 01:45 PM
True :mad:

:mad: If it was about nature the green guys would have been there. This is a bunch of berggies worried about their weed.

Sorry Medicine

Ou grote
17-07-2009, 02:18 PM
The valuers had taken into consideration the rugged nature of the terrain, not conducive to development, and the rural zoning, which allowed only a single dwelling.


Isaac James, chairman of the Hout Bay Civic Association, said: "The city council should buy the property and build houses there for us. We want houses."
huh?:confused:

Slootvreter
17-07-2009, 02:19 PM
huh?:confused:

They don't give a fsck about zoning. They can fit 1000 shacks in a single block. Now they just want houses. Give give give give. Demand.

Ou grote
17-07-2009, 02:21 PM
They don't give a fsck about zoning. They can fit 1000 shacks in a single block. Now they just want houses. Give give give give. Demand.

Maybe they want a block of flats there.

Wind is really *** up there, their shacks will be in the ocean in no time.

Mila
17-07-2009, 02:23 PM
Cape Times 17th July 2009
I think the whole idea of selling mountains is ridiculous and Zille should have acted quickly and taken it back into public hands. Just look at the vultures in the form of Oprah Winfrey, Sol Kerzner and others gathering around to try and get the naming rights. I sometimes wish they would just buzz off.:mad:
If i had money i would buy there too.
It is better than a bunch off leaches living there.

Slootvreter
17-07-2009, 02:30 PM
Maybe they want a block of flats there.

Wind is really *** up there, their shacks will be in the ocean in no time.

And then we'll have protests and marches on our hands again.

krycor
17-07-2009, 04:26 PM
hout bay thing basically happen when the anc successfully took over from np. I remember the uproar when suddenly their existing poor area's expanded and shacks went up. :( That being said, as much as they may want to live there, some places are not for development irrespective of type of development and even so where the shacks are now are kinda limited. I was shocked when i went that way for an interview and saw the shacks going far up the hill/mountain on the one side :o ugh.. what can you do.. in the end services need to be delivered.

Sackboy
19-07-2009, 03:50 AM
If they allow shacks everywhere we will have another Brazil.

ponder
19-07-2009, 03:56 AM
If they allow shacks everywhere we will have another Brazil.

Which we will eventually be.

Sackboy
23-07-2009, 10:11 PM
Which we will eventually be.
In Rio, the very poor have spectacular views over the city. Nobody goes into the townships because it's extremely dangerous. You should see the police unit that raids the place!!