More free electricity to the poor

[rpm]

More free power to the poor (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/General/9886.html)

Eskom wants to increase the basic free electricity allocation to poor households from 50 kilowatts to between 70 and 100 kilowatts next year, CEO Jacob Maroga said on Tuesday.

[Garyvdh]

hmm, by then I might just be permanently in the "poor" category :(

[Nod]

At this pace, it won't be long before we are all "poor". If only my salary could keep pace with all these increases.

[Lazy]

That's nice, let them pay for it using executive salary reductions. Fail. If I could write some swearwords in front of fail without upsetting the masses I would have done that. This is absolute rubbish. EPIC BLOODY FAIL.

Anyone wanna start a 'get off the grid completely' user group? :D

[davemc]

Woot.

Now, lets define a household:
- A household is a residence where at least one person resides. It is entitled to it's free electricity every month.

Now, lets capture the names of these people that live in these households who are entitled to their free electricity.
- Name
- Id Number
- Address, as approved by a local community leader, who can be bribed with a quart of black label (Initially, as time moves on, the bribes will become more expensive, and the community leader's cars will get more extravagant)

Now, issue each registered "household representative" person with their electricity card.

Now, an enterprising person can gather all these cards, and use them on his power metre, and sell off his electricity to others who are not as organised for a small profit.

He can also feed back some profit to the original owners of the electricity card, which will encourage them to get their cousins and aunts and random people to also register their "household", so that they can benefit from the free electricity re-sale.

Awesome system, in the end, the middle to lower income person loses out big-time, and cartels of organised abuse will form who will end up warring with each other to maintain control of this free resource.

Meh

[voipnow]

The person who writes these articles should learn the difference between kW and kWH..

[JohnsonCT]

50 kilowatts to between 70 and 100 kilowatts
Don't you mean kilowatt hours? It doesn't mean much to talk about kilowatts when talking about electricity allocation. And is that kilowatt hours per month?

[Kosmik]

Our power system is under such strain that we encourage load shedding and power conservation at night, yet we give away more power to the least productive part of the population. It may sound harsh, I admit but when your crying for funds, milking your economy generating class for more and more, you DON'T give away what you don't have.

Personal power generation is going to become more and more popular.

[Fudzy]

Woot.

Now, lets define a household:
- A household is a residence where at least one person resides. It is entitled to it's free electricity every month.

Now, lets capture the names of these people that live in these households who are entitled to their free electricity.
- Name
- Id Number
- Address, as approved by a local community leader, who can be bribed with a quart of black label (Initially, as time moves on, the bribes will become more expensive, and the community leader's cars will get more extravagant)

Now, issue each registered "household representative" person with their electricity card.

Now, an enterprising person can gather all these cards, and use them on his power metre, and sell off his electricity to others who are not as organised for a small profit.

He can also feed back some profit to the original owners of the electricity card, which will encourage them to get their cousins and aunts and random people to also register their "household", so that they can benefit from the free electricity re-sale.

Awesome system, in the end, the middle to lower income person loses out big-time, and cartels of organised abuse will form who will end up warring with each other to maintain control of this free resource.

Meh

Not necessarily, if they introduce STS prepayment meters, most vending systems allocate an FBE token per meter.

[kkza]

A nice hike in the costs, yet they are giving away more and more KWh,
nice.

[Pr⊕phet]

whoot, more free handouts yay i can't wait to get even less at end of the month, just please slap it on me back there is plenty a space along side all other substituted handouts...

[VJB 449]

Obviously you give away free things to the bulk of your voters.

[davemc]

Not necessarily, if they introduce STS prepayment meters, most vending systems allocate an FBE token per meter.True. One extra bribe is required then.

[Fudzy]

True. One extra bribe is required then.

Pretty difficult to bribe an encryption algorithm, it would ALOT easier to just bypass the meter.

[Freshy-ZN]

On the plus side we will all soon be entitled to all these freebies if things carry on like this.

Utter madness. Milk....milk.....milk.....milk

[Mila]

How do you get this? If i claim unemployment?

[joelus]

Woot.

Now, lets define a household:
- A household is a residence where at least one person resides. It is entitled to it's free electricity every month.

Now, lets capture the names of these people that live in these households who are entitled to their free electricity.
- Name
- Id Number
- Address, as approved by a local community leader, who can be bribed with a quart of black label (Initially, as time moves on, the bribes will become more expensive, and the community leader's cars will get more extravagant)

Now, issue each registered "household representative" person with their electricity card.

Now, an enterprising person can gather all these cards, and use them on his power metre, and sell off his electricity to others who are not as organised for a small profit.

He can also feed back some profit to the original owners of the electricity card, which will encourage them to get their cousins and aunts and random people to also register their "household", so that they can benefit from the free electricity re-sale.

Awesome system, in the end, the middle to lower income person loses out big-time, and cartels of organised abuse will form who will end up warring with each other to maintain control of this free resource.

Meh

This makes no sense...:confused:

[phenom]

Socialismz

:sick:

lets rather provide free education coupons for the poor. leave electricity and else. this way we will actually get them to do something useful, instead of acting like leeches all the time.

[Blaze786]

They are entitled to it... /end sarcasmz

[joelus]

How do you get this? If i claim unemployment?

If you use below a certain number of units a month you automatically qualify for free units... (I think it's less than 400 kWh per month)

[joelus]

Socialismz

:sick:

lets rather provide free education coupons for the poor. leave electricity and else. this way we will actually get them to do something useful, instead of acting like leeches all the time.

What is an education coupon? And how can one study effectively without electricity?

[marine1]

And they are asking for a 60% increase :mad:

[Mila]

What is an education coupon? And how can one study effectively without electricity?

If you want something anything is possible.

[joelus]

If you want something anything is possible.

I guess...
I've no idea how you're going to teach someone how to use a computer without electricity though...

[Mila]

I guess...
I've no idea how you're going to teach someone how to use a computer without electricity though...

But that is at school. Every kid can not have a PC at home.

[Frankie]

If you use below a certain number of units a month you automatically qualify for free units... (I think it's less than 400 kWh per month)
I think you're wrong here - I have a property that is only occupied twice a year for about 3 weeks a time, and there's no free electricity on offer that I can see - I need to check this again when I'm on holiday but at this time I'm fairly confident that I didn't see this.

For most of the year the only electricity consumption is for the alarm system and strategic lighting - about R20 ~ R30 per month.

[Blaze786]

Agreed, I have many techs working under me that only ever used a pc at school/college and only bought their own when they started working. I tell you they know more and work more efficiently than the guys that had a pc all their lives. Simply because when you have a pc at home few people use it to study, what with games, movies and series available... The guys that didnt have 1 at home had to study about them to get their fix...

[Frankie]

I read somewhere that there's gangs in the poorer areas that for a small fee bypass the pre-paid meters making the consumption totally free, and the authorities turn a blind eye.

[Blaze786]

Whats a small fee, wanna know if its viable haha

[joelus]

I think you're wrong here - I have a property that is only occupied twice a year for about 3 weeks a time, and there's no free electricity on offer that I can see - I need to check this again when I'm on holiday but at this time I'm fairly confident that I didn't see this.

For most of the year the only electricity consumption is for the alarm system and strategic lighting - about R20 ~ R30 per month.

I think it's different in different municipalities / provinces.
In Cape Town the city provides 50kWh of free electricity to consumers who use less than 400kWh per month.

[phenom]

education voucher?

simple, a voucher or could be used in addition as a discount, ie R500, that can be spent on any official, registered formal educational institution. something like the student discounts vodacom and virgin active is giving, only in voucher form and by government.

government could get these at a discount too. win-win.


study without electric? yes this is a serious one, but not for someone else to sort out. we need to make sure that parants are responsible too and all children are born into good homes for this, and it could only be done through a ethical Chinese like birth policy. not theft to no end.

#3, or if the hard-working stressed guy is not drained enough, every child would need say a allowance given by state, say 5k per month (millionares should be given tax discounts according to the more hcildren they have, as they are able to raise these children), and an educational option would be mandatory, and they would need to attend this institution if they are to apply. good marks will be rewarded by bonuses. this will take a huge toll on the tax payer, and could not last long without restraining the economy or creating an unfair environment which is another reason i vow for birth laws.

negligent parants are the root of nearly all bad. this should be stopped.


education vouchers, birth policy, allowances straight to the child(as now he/she would be directly responsible for their own life)

[Tns]

Do you have to belong to a certain ethnic group and vote for a certain party to be classified as poor?

Sorry i will not pay for anyone else.

[Slootvreter]

I read somewhere that there's gangs in the poorer areas that for a small fee bypass the pre-paid meters making the consumption totally free, and the authorities turn a blind eye.

No the fsckers do it themselves, in broad daylight, with police/metro driving past. Nobody can do a thing, or else the mob strikes. The way of Africa. Take what you want. Fscking pathetic. That is why I feel fsckall for the poor bastards in their dirty squatter camps.