Uncapped ADSL at R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB

[88RSI]

Sorry for the noob Q but to get the wimax option you need a wimax modem, do you get generic modems or do you have to buy a modem that will only work on the screamer network?

[Tjoker]

Don't let a ISP ever come back to me with contention issues and not being able to provide the service I pay for. They will be dropped instantly or at their latest billing cycle.

+1

ISP loyalty doesn't exist within SA

[twiga]

+1

ISP loyalty doesn't exist within SA

Yes and blame Telkom for that. If customers felt that they were treated fairly and not ripped off, consumer sentiments would be quite different in this sector.

[rippedoff]

Big deal, still way overpriced, R2500 for 4mb/s - insulting!:mad:

[nictron]

+1

ISP loyalty doesn't exist within SA

I agree, going higher contention ratios will just be shortsighted.

They will loose customers very quickly as well as do irreparable damage to their brand name.

HIGH Contention ratios = BAD IDEA!

[Zyzzyva]

For R100 extra I can get chilli's package which includes two concurrent connections. I think I will test Chilli's package before I throw myself at this one. In the case of chilli, two friends can share costs and end up paying R250 each for unlimited and get full line speed when the system allows...

There is the chance chilli will be able to do load balancing with channel bonding on a DD-WRT v24 SP2 box... I'll test that first... but...

So far it's chilli I think....

I agree, for now im going to go with chilli. I prefer their offer. I'm just hoping i get a full 40K at night.

[saffakanera]

Well if Screamer decides to spearhead pricing like they are doing now, then maybe some form of concrete ISP/brand loyalty would emerge.

[Gothan]

Well I signed up, waiting for the username and password, and will then experiment. The only thing that I am hoping for, is that I won't get harassed by emails telling me I am "using my connection excessively", and I only do about 80gigs a month on 384 currently with uncapped express

[hjs]

Screamer: I would like to apply for the 4mb one but your website http://www.screamer.co.za/adsl_app.pdf is not working?

[nictron]

Big deal, still way overpriced, R2500 for 4mb/s - insulting!:mad:

This won't change, even oversees we are seeing more and more throttling and fair capping of high bandwidth products.

Just look at the Cable row going on in the US and Canada. People are being capped at 60 to 100 GBs.

[mrudling]

I agree, for now im going to go with chilli. I prefer their offer. I'm just hoping i get a full 40K at night.

+1, 256kbs for R250 (shared) sounds good to me, at the end of the day its only +-20gigs a month less, provided you never get any bursts.

Telkom, give DigiChilli there IP Block!

[Kosmik]

Yes and blame Telkom for that. If customers felt that they were treated fairly and not ripped off, consumer sentiments would be quite different in this sector.

Telkom don't have the monopoly on underhand business dealings. Blame whoever the account is with ..... then kick telkom for line rental.:D

[cda]

This cda character is apparently a free lance hack who tries to put a downer on anyone.

Stop pulling misinformation out of your ass Playoff, you have no idea who I am.

Screamer have still never apologised or even commented regarding the horrendous service I got, and zero connectivity I had over a 2 week period. When I eventually got called by their CTO, and asked why it took so long all he could to me was "I only heard about it 2 days ago".

Yeah, sure, Neotel's service is 100 times worse. I don't care.

Every time I phone Screamer (which has been due to frequent and serious downtime), I get the SAME person answering the phone. What is that? Coincidence? Bad luck? I doubt it.

The last time I phoned for yet another "Upstream issue." I asked for a reference number and the guy seemed almost confused that I should ask for such a thing - I'm guessing their general support work flow is to bat customers away with stupid answers and never log a ticket. I sat on the phone for 10 minutes while he chicken-typed a ticket and gave me a reference number. Two days later I get called in response to the voicemail I left that same day because their other phone number just never got answered. Same guy calling me (coincidence again??), couldn't even remember that he had already logged a ticket that same day...

I'm not saying Screamer is the worst, when it works it does so fairly well. I'm saying I have serious doubts regarding their ability to handle such a large influx of customers. I'm also saying their customer service is abominable, and their technical people are cowboys who just change things randomly and do "maintenance" in the middle of the day.

Perhaps that's acceptable to Playoff, well good for him. Companies are measured on their screw ups, not their fan clubs.

Plus, I'm hardly the only one:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=3332010&postcount=15

[Gothan]

I agree, going higher contention ratios will just be shortsighted.

They will loose customers very quickly as well as do irreparable damage to their brand name.

HIGH Contention ratios = BAD IDEA!

Well they did specify this in the article :"Screamer has stressed that although this offer has no cut off date, Screamer will not over contend its bandwidth. “In other words first come, first served,”"

So I assume, that when contention starts coming into play, they might stop their uncapped adsl signups (oh please not even I believe this, but am hoping)

[StefK]

Does anyone know if the Screamer bandwidth is shaped or not?
I would suppose it is...?

[scuzzy]

+1, 256kbs for R250 (shared) sounds good to me, at the end of the day its only +-20gigs a month less, provided you never get any bursts.

Telkom, give DigiChilli there IP Block!

+1

[saffakanera]

Does anyone know if the Screamer bandwidth is shaped or not?
I would suppose it is...?

Its Unshaped, the Screamer representative confirmed that man, w00t.

[tinman]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of latencies we are likely to get with the 384 uncapped option? Will it be comparable to SAIX and IS? Will it use the same local network infrastructure?

[Tjoker]

Does anyone know if the Screamer bandwidth is shaped or not?
I would suppose it is...?

unshaped!!!!!!!!!!!! For the 242nd time....read the damn thread

[saffakanera]

Does anyone have any idea what sort of latencies we are likely to get with the 384 uncapped option? Will it be comparable to SAIX and IS? Will it use the same local network infrastructure?

Seems that the latencies should be good tin, I for one fully support the 384 uncapped option vs a double ISP routesentry option for games like MW2 etc.

[license]

Its Unshaped, the Screamer representative confirmed that man, w00t.

Their upstream bandwidth might be unshaped, but would their ADSL service be unshaped - thats another question. I'm assuming they do shaped the bandwidth to some extent, by using proxy services and ensuring their upstream bandwidth is not consumed by pirate junkies (thats P2P traffic).

[saffakanera]

Their upstream bandwidth might be unshaped, but would their ADSL service be unshaped - thats another question. I'm assuming they do shaped the bandwidth to some extent, by using proxy services and ensuring their upstream bandwidth is not consumed by pirate junkies (thats P2P traffic).

Im sure they meant unshaped in the conventional term :)

[J0n0]

If this is unshaped on most ports and gives good latencies on wow, im say ciao to vodacom...Thats a promise. :) Im not too stressed about P2P. :p

[hjs]

They seem to have stopped sign ups already, http://www.screamer.co.za/adsl_app.pdf is not working.

[unwired]

Hi Howzit

Don't know if this question has been asked. It came out alot with the Afrihost offer. Does Screamer have a mandatory 12 hour/24 hour disconnect? This caused alot of unhappiness with Afrihost.

Thanks

[Blaze786]

They seem to have stopped sign ups already, http://www.screamer.co.za/adsl_app.pdf is not working.

This morning when I clicked on apply it took me straight to a sign up page where I filled in my details, didnt finish though and now when I go back I cant sign up at all ='/

[saffakanera]

Have to say though im a liiitle bit worried about the amount of time its taking for them to process my order, have faxed it through about 2 1/2 hours ago. Could they really be that busy today? :) Probably have a crapload of orders comming through now.

[saffakanera]

Do you guys think an opposing ISP hacked the site and pulled down the application page?!

[sallyspencer]

if I register now will it still be R399 for November....????

[saffakanera]

if I register now will it still be R399 for November....????

I believe so man.

[StefK]

Its Unshaped, the Screamer representative confirmed that man, w00t.


unshaped!!!!!!!!!!!! For the 242nd time....read the damn thread

Obviously the thread search tool was not written by Google then... typo's ahoy... :P

Thanks anyway.

[LabAnimal]

ok, questions for the Screamer Rep (Screaming rep? :D)

1. I take it P2P is allowed?
2. fair usage policy?
3. Shaping?

Question for the members on Neotel - ... do you have to give 30 day notice? :D :D :D

[Tjoker]

"The requested URL /adsl_app.pdf was not found on this server."

[nastyman]

I believe so man.

Nope, if you read Howzit's posts you will see that the prorata November for the unshapped accounts.

I registered and faxed through authorisation about an hour ago. Hoping to get my user name and password soon

[kilos]

Howzit - who is your upstream ISP ? Direct to Neotel -> Seacom
How much bandwidth do you have available ?
Do we automatically get assigned static IP addresses or must you apply for static and at what cost ? No mention on your website of dynamic or static IP addresses.

[nastyman]

ok, questions for the Screamer Rep (Screaming rep? :D)

1. I take it P2P is allowed?
2. fair usage policy?
3. Shaping?

Question for the members on Neotel - ... do you have to give 30 day notice? :D :D :D

Please read the whole thread or use search, those questions have been answered.

As for the neotel q, if you didn't sign a year or 2 year contract then its generally a 30 day notice period.

[Tjoker]

Their speedtest also not working

http://172.17.0.161/speedtest/

did someone hack them maybe......

[saffakanera]

Just phoned the sales guy there, I was like "you guys are probably busy today huh?" He just lolled and said EXTREMELY! :)

[nastyman]

Their speedtest also not working

http://172.17.0.161/speedtest/

did someone hack them maybe......

172.17.xx is a private address. It's either a typo or you need to be connected to their network to use it.

[saffakanera]

Their speedtest also not working

http://172.17.0.161/speedtest/

did someone hack them maybe......

One of the other ISP's must be trying to slow these guys down untill they can come up with a pricing scheme that wont make them lose 50% of their userbase in the next 48 hours.

[fluffy54]

This is the most excitement I've seen in ages.

[nastyman]

One of the other ISP's must be trying to slow these guys down untill they can come up with a pricing scheme that wont make them lose 50% of their userbase in the next 48 hours.

lol!

Love all the conspiracy theories, but unless their web dev's work for the other ISP's, its not likely. See one of my above posts.

[LabAnimal]

Please read the whole thread or use search, those questions have been answered.

As for the neotel q, if you didn't sign a year or 2 year contract then its generally a 30 day notice period.

you're a piece of work!:rolleyes:

[Keeper]

It must be Afrihost, those guys have terrible prices compared to digichilly & Screamer's new Offers

....never thought i'd ever, say Afrihost is expensive! lol

[unwired]

Was checking on OpenWeb site for details of their price reductions (post by Keeper). Didnt find it but saw this news ticker that links to MYBB. Wonder if they might consider leaving it out seeing that this has kicked off the price wars (unless they plan to keep pace).

Web browsers: which ones are most vulnerable?
MTN to cut jobs
Samsung Galaxy Spica i5700
Mxit gives robbers away
Uncapped ADSL for R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB
Top 10 Web application vulnerabilities
Internet company which organised cash giveaway in trouble
Internet now speaks Arabic

[deonvr]

Do you guys think an opposing ISP hacked the site and pulled down the application page?!

try

http://196.25.27.121/adsl_ppp.asp

[nastyman]

you're a piece of work!:rolleyes:

Thought people from Glenwood were a bit friendlier than that ;)

[Keeper]

Was checking on OpenWeb site for details of their price reductions (post by Keeper)

did you really think you were gonna get those prices in that post? lol - it was a joke man, of how fast it's starting to go now :)

Digichilli hasn't even started and then gets eaten up alive by SCREAMER! :D

[saffakanera]

did you really think you were gonna get those prices in that post? lol - it was a joke man, of how fast it's starting to go now :)

Digichilli hasn't even started and then gets eaten up alive by SCREAMER! :D

That sig looks SWEET man :)

[LabAnimal]

Thought people from Glenwood were a bit friendlier than that ;)

heh... Welcome to MyBroadband :p

[Keeper]

That sig looks SWEET man :)

just doing my part to get more people to abandon their expensive ISP's in large numbers, causing other ISP's to lower their prices :cool:

I recommend you all support the Internet Revolution of SA that is taking place, by getting word out of these cheaper ISP's !

spread the word, lower prices!

[unwired]

did you really think you were gonna get those prices in that post? lol - it was a joke man, of how fast it's starting to go now :)

Digichilli hasn't even started and then gets eaten up alive by SCREAMER! :D

Thanks. I feel like a dope.
Seriously though, like you said, the ISP's are getting on the bandwagon and hopefully the big boys will see this (and their subs dropping) and enter the war.

[Tjoker]

looks like Screamer eats (digi)Chillies for breakfast.....and don't even bother with milk....

[SirFooK'nG]

Ha ... iBurst going out the window - just placed my order for an ADSL line! uncapped here i come!!!

[J0n0]

just doing my part to get more people to abandon their expensive ISP's in large numbers, causing other ISP's to lower their prices :cool:

I recommend you all support the Internet Revolution of SA that is taking place, by getting word out of these cheaper ISP's !

spread the word, lower prices!

Now to just get the voice and adsl line rental thing sorted... What does line rentals cost nowadays so by the way?

[Robocop]

I'd like to hear some comment from the chillies on this development.....

[Keeper]

Now to just get the voice and adsl line rental thing sorted... What does line rentals cost nowadays so by the way?

Telkom Website? :p

I wanna know more about their Wimax - it seems They don't have signal in Kempton Park? what the hell? :confused: :mad:

[Blaze786]

Any word on why the sign ups are down?

[Tjoker]

What would The Screamer Stig say about this......

Some say he can drift at (R)399 km/h, while eating (digi)chillies

AND

that Screamer Stig is doing donuts around other ISP's.....

all we know is, his called the The Screamer Stig!!!

[porchrat]

I'd like to hear some comment from the chillies on this development.....

In the immortal words of Asok: I'll bet it includes the word "bag".

[j@w]

Everything is good and well, but THE SPEED OF YOUR INTERNET is not really the main factor, it is the QUALITY. Which almost no one addresses.

OpenWeb & Gamco & ... resells Vodacom Business ADSL Uncapped. Which has a semi-high contention ratio, unless you pay more to get a lower contention ratio.

Screamer claims to go over their "own" seacom segment.

And Digichilli, I don't know.

But, e.g. I'd rather pay 1mbps uncapped @ R3000pm for premium bandwidth than R1000pm for 4mbps uncapped for Sowetan-classed high contention ratio bandwidth.

Can someone post the contention ratio's & QUALITY of bandwidth of these providers.

[porchrat]

But, e.g. I'd rather pay 1mbps uncapped @ R3000pm for premium bandwidth than R1000pm for 4mbps uncapped for Sowetan-classed high contention ratio bandwidth.

Can someone post the contention ratio's & QUALITY of bandwidth of these providers.

Got to agree there, I am much less inclined to move until I see these figures. Won't stop me moving, but it would definitely break the inertia faster.

Having said that though I would rather have option 'C': premium bandwidth at R500.

[Pooky]

So who has tried this service? Am VERY tempted...

[J0n0]

Telkom Website? :p

You just couldnt do that for me and post them here couldnt you. :p Ill have a squiz thanks. :) hehehehe

[SurferChic]

Any word on why the sign ups are down?

Just checked and it's up and running again :)

[AcidRaZor]

I just wish the screamer stig's website would gimme my bandwidth already :( can't get past the debit order screen. *cries uncontrollably*

[AcidRaZor]

Just checked and it's up and running again :)

lol and just like that it told me my sign up process is completed :D

[AcidRaZor]

I can't wait to play Farmville on unshaped bandwidth *drool*

[AntiThesis]

I can't wait to play Farmville on unshaped bandwidth *drool*

You worry me :D

I want to test both accounts but there's too little time left in the month to give it a good go :( Perhaps I'll sign up for Digi now and Dec and test Screamer in Jan/whatever new ISP has popped up with crazy specials.

[Galahad]

When is DigiChilli taking off - I have heard nothing since I applied on Friday?

[doodsangel]

When is DigiChilli taking off - I have heard nothing since I applied on Friday?

They're waiting for Telkom to assign their IPs = they don't even know.

[ForSure]

*waits for next Isp to flood the market with cheaper and awesome prices :D

XD

[Garyvdh]

Well, I hate to be the one to gloat... but.... :D


Um, I hate to rain on anybody's parade... but the price war started a few months ago when some ISPs started breaking the R70 per Gig barrier. It has been stuck at R70 per Gig for more than two years now. Suddenly we started seeing R50 per Gig... and now R30 per Gig. Looks like this price war is well into its third month now!

Bring it on!!!! Whoo hoooo!

The price for the other ISPs will probably settle around R45 to R50 for another month or two... and then when more Seacom bandwidth starts coming online it will slowly move down to the R30 mark (where Afrihost will have been the market leader for several months).

By this time next year, the price will be R20 or R10 a gig for International! I love it!!! :D


Your posts are very pro-seacom and pro-seacom-will-lower-prices.

Just take note - if it does not happen a lot of people are gonna be looking for you in order to bash your kneecaps.


Sorry dude, those numbers was already expelled by the same company that quoted those numbers. There is another thread where we are forewarned that that will not happen ANYTIME soon. We must be patient ... for another 10 years. Only Gary seems overly optimistic, some person is going to be very dissapointed very soon. We had the same promisses a few years ago and suddenly it became worse as Telkom changed the rules (Capping was introduced) to rape us to death WITH the GOVERNMENT and the DOC as backup to ensure we pay for their overseas mansions.

So please by all means BE OPTIMISTIC but excuse me for being downright pessimistic as all I see is $Dollars in the providers eyes. We WILL be shafted with government approval untill at least after 2010, more likely 2020 which when by then the Chinese run the show here and the rest of Africa.

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

hahaha... actually I was wrong. I predicted R30 a gig by the year end and they are already at R23 per gig.

Where are all our pessimists now? :p

[czc]

Well, I hate to be the one to gloat... but.... :D







I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

hahaha... actually I was wrong. I predicted R30 a gig by the year end and they are already at R23 per gig.

Where are all our pessimists now? :p

Lol bravo Gary, you title should be "Resident Soothsayer"

[Shred]

At this rate, Vodacom are going to loose all their customers that do not need mobility.

Before this whole story started, Vodacom HSDPA was the cheapest 2GB arround @389. ADSL was more expensive if you included line rental, adsl and bandwidth, but now, ADSL and Screamer's WiMax is far cheaper.

Could it be imminent now?

[howzit]

if I register now will it still be R399 for November....????

Unlimited is pro rated from the date of the application to the end of the month


ok, questions for the Screamer Rep (Screaming rep? :D)

1. I take it P2P is allowed?
2. fair usage policy?
3. Shaping?

Question for the members on Neotel - ... do you have to give 30 day notice? :D :D :D

1. Yes
2. just play nice basically
3. Unshaped


Howzit - who is your upstream ISP ? Direct to Neotel -> Seacom
How much bandwidth do you have available ?
Do we automatically get assigned static IP addresses or must you apply for static and at what cost ? No mention on your website of dynamic or static IP addresses.

Saix and Seacom
Lots
You will need a router after your ADSL router to get a static IP. I think the router costs about R300??


Their speedtest also not working

http://172.17.0.161/speedtest/

did someone hack them maybe......

You need to be a Screamer to use our speedtest


Now to just get the voice and adsl line rental thing sorted... What does line rentals cost nowadays so by the way?

Our voice is working fine. If you want voice then go to the voice application page.

[Tjoker]

Well, I hate to be the one to gloat... but.... :D







I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

hahaha... actually I was wrong. I predicted R30 a gig by the year end and they are already at R23 per gig.

Where are all our pessimists now? :p

/Gives Garyvdh a pat on the back....

[Terrabiticfossilite]

It must be Afrihost, those guys have terrible prices compared to digichilly & Screamer's new Offers

....never thought i'd ever, say Afrihost is expensive! lol

That's a touch over the top don't you think?
Afrihost is still really good - now if bring in gconnect/telkom/WA etc I would understand...

[Robocop]

We'll never be happy. Next thing you know it will be R10/GB and we will have to look for something else to complain about. Looks like the next big thing will be contention ratios. Or maybe concurrent connections. What about free modems/routers. Ahh... what the hell let's have free internet...:D

[Garyvdh]

Yea but according to some seacom is our saviour zenbaas, looks to me like things are not going to get way cheaper.

That price for 256 at 500 bucks is decent though, running news servers 24/7 would get you around 80gb a month for 500 bucks. Granted you would not be able browse lekka with news servers/torrents sucking all that bandwidth :D.

Pretty good. The price of 1024 uncapped is rather shocking when you consider openweb is cheaper and you have 4 times the speed, so i cannot explain how seacom is going to save us when they cannot even beat openweb's 4 meg uncapped.

haha.... killa... you were also one of the naysayers! What is it gonna take for you to admit you were wrong? :D

[unwired]

thanks.

what about the scheduled disconnects? Does this exist at all?

[robkowa]

I've been on a 4MB ADSL line since I arrived in SA - and before that, on an 8MB uncapped line in the UK. Tempted to switch to Screamer, just cannot live with caps any longer, it's suffocating.
One question to those of you who are on 384k lines: by far my most important application is Skype and iChat (on the Mac) for video chatting. How does a 384k line stack up? Is (half-decent) video chatting even possible with that little bandwidth? Cheers

[aekritzinger]

Hi all, newbie here.

I have just tried to register and noticed the following,

http://196.25.27.121/adsl_ppp.asp - non secure page used for ADSL sign up.

It requires all personal info, ID number, phones addresses etc and 2nd page asks for full banking details to setup direct debit and it is not SECURED.

I have sent an Email to Screamer 15min ago but as yet no answer. Please be aware of this as this to my understanding is a HUGE security risks!!!!

[SirFooK'nG]

@howzit... you should change your sig:

We're not stealing customers from our competitors, we're just giving them what they want

[Shred]

I've been on a 4MB ADSL line since I arrived in SA - and before that, on an 8MB uncapped line in the UK. Tempted to switch to Screamer, just cannot live with caps any longer, it's suffocating.
One question to those of you who are on 384k lines: by far my most important application is Skype and iChat (on the Mac) for video chatting. How does a 384k line stack up? Is (half-decent) video chatting even possible with that little bandwidth? Cheers

It's "ok" on 384. I chat to my folkes and they are on a 384 liine, it's not smooth 100% of the time, but it's not too bad.

[Garyvdh]

Well then guess we'll reserve our right to point out how pig-headed and stubborn you are :confused:

Charlie? Still think I am pig-headed when we see prices like this? :D

[Keeper]

You just couldnt do that for me and post them here couldnt you. :p Ill have a squiz thanks. :) hehehehe

No, I couldn't - my Company uses iBurst :D

it would take forever!

[Garyvdh]

Yup seacom have failed SA or SA have failed seacom.

Hopefully they will do something soon and not take a year because damn they went live 2 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!

That is 2 months!!!!!!!!!!!!! not 2 days but 2 flippin months!!!!!!!!!!

Gary stick this in your pipe and smoke it. http://www.seacom.mu/news/pdf_articles/TTCL%20PRESS%20RELEASE%203RD%20OCT%202009-1.pdf

5 days man!!!!!!!!!!! It took them 5 days to go live and drop prices, 2 months later we still wondering. Yea things take time in Good ol SA for sure.


So tanzania can go live in 5 days and we cannot even get a date as to when seacom will go live in SA.

Yea gary good that you are optimistic man cause that just makes me think it could be another 6-12 months and who knows if they ever actually land.

5 days!!!!!! That is amazing.

Hmmmm, killa... here we are one month later.

Not even 4 months since Seacom went live and these are the prices you are seeing in 2009... not even 2010 yet.

What does it taste like? Those words of yours that you are not chewing?

Want some water with that? :D

[Techrat]

Hi all, newbie here.

I have just tried to register and noticed the following,

http://196.25.27.121/adsl_ppp.asp - non secure page used for ADSL sign up.

It requires all personal info, ID number, phones addresses etc and 2nd page asks for full banking details to setup direct debit and it is not SECURED.

I have sent an Email to Screamer 15min ago but as yet no answer. Please be aware of this as this to my understanding is a HUGE security risks!!!!

I thought that was a bit off as well.

Will Screamer offer pre-paid with roll-over anytime soon? I think the cheapest ATM is Afrihost's for R49?

[Ryansta]

ok im done asking screamer... been waiting for 4 hours now to find out why it says R169 on the wimax monthly rental on the website, but the application form says R279

please answer howzit...

[SirFooK'nG]

Eish ... Garyvdh is luvin it today!!

[Shred]

ok im done asking screamer... been waiting for 4 hours now to find out why it says R169 on the wimax monthly rental on the website, but the application form says R279

please answer howzit...

Ja also noticed that

[LabAnimal]

Lol bravo Gary, you title should be "Resident Soothsayer"

Hey RPM! I dunno about the other guys, but My vote is on Gary as he's always so positive about SA's DSL and where its heading!

I think he deserves to have his title upgraded to "Resident Soothsayer"!!!

[Playoff]

You worry me :D

I want to test both accounts but there's too little time left in the month to give it a good go :( Perhaps I'll sign up for Digi now and Dec and test Screamer in Jan/whatever new ISP has popped up with crazy specials.

There is no such thing as "Digi now"

They don't even have their IP range and once they get that they still have at least a weeks worth of work to get set up. Anyway why bother now with Screamer who are allocating cheaper logins already:D

[Gothan]

Well got my login details, so will test the uncapped 384 tonight and tomorrow and the day after that and after that and after that mwhahahahahahahahahahaha

[Tjoker]

Be careful what you say to Garyvdh Meister......he will rip you apart in 2months time :)

[burn]

ok im done asking screamer... been waiting for 4 hours now to find out why it says R169 on the wimax monthly rental on the website, but the application form says R279

please answer howzit...

You tried calling them or emailing them. Cuz I'm sure 3rd party forums are not a recognised form of dealing with queries :p They just being helpful by being here

[d7e7r7]

Hi guys,
Searched this thread... Can't find out if they allow concurrent connections, do they? If so how many?
Has anyone signed up with them? How is the service?

[ForSure]

Well got my login details, so will test the uncapped 384 tonight and tomorrow and the day after that and after that and after that mwhahahahahahahahahahaha


pls pls show us your tests results XD

im so keen to get it from all the posts ive seen

[Zyzzyva]

Hi guys,
Searched this thread... Can't find out if they allow concurrent connections, do they? If so how many?
Has anyone signed up with them? How is the service?

1

[Playoff]

ok im done asking screamer... been waiting for 4 hours now to find out why it says R169 on the wimax monthly rental on the website, but the application form says R279

please answer howzit...

Where does it says R169 for a WiMAX rental unit on the website. On the equipment needed page it does say R279 for a WiMAX and phone connection

http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_equipment.php

[Galahad]

Thanks for the info.

[bwana]

Hmmmm, killa... here we are one month later.

Not even 4 months since Seacom went live and these are the prices you are seeing in 2009... not even 2010 yet.

What does it taste like? Those words of yours that you are not chewing?

Want some water with that? :DWhy are you cross posting? This is the "Uncapped ADSL at R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB" thread.

[burn]

Hi guys,
Searched this thread... Can't find out if they allow concurrent connections, do they? If so how many?
Has anyone signed up with them? How is the service?

Apparently, no concurrent connections

[oceanmasterza]

Hi guys,
Searched this thread... Can't find out if they allow concurrent connections, do they? If so how many?
Has anyone signed up with them? How is the service?

Try this: http://tinyurl.com/yj8kysv :)

Middle of the first search result.

[mrudling]

After so many pages of uncapped talk, people are actually getting grumpy.... hehehe

[Garyvdh]

Why are you cross posting? This is the "Uncapped ADSL at R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB" thread.

I'm gloating at all the naysayers and pessimists who gave me heck for all these months saying prices would never drop! This thread is (more) proof that they have come down. :D



[I thought that would be pretty self-evident from the content of my posts? :confused:]

[Gothan]

pls pls show us your tests results XD

im so keen to get it from all the posts ive seen

will do, as soon as I get home.

[cda]

We are trying to find where it says R169 for a WiMAX rental unit on the website. On the equipment needed page it does say R279 for a WiMAX and phone connection[/url]

We? You work for Screamer?

Oh dear...

[kilos]

I'm gloating at all the naysayers and pessimists who gave me heck for all these months saying prices would never drop! This thread is (more) proof that they have come down. :D

Yes Gary we all apologise as we thought you were to optimistic in your statements about uncapped b/w for R500

[EddG]

I faxed my form. Now i'm waiting for my login details. Christmas came early this year!!:D

[JustAsk]

Advice to the Chilli guys.

Never broadcast to the world what you're gonna do,days before you launch.
Follow Nike's advice and "Just do it".

You just got served.

[EddG]

Advice to the Chilli guys.

Never broadcast to the world what you're gonna do,days before you launch.
Follow Nike's advice and "Just do it".

You just got served.

Hahahahahaha. +1
I think they have just lost a **** load of business. I'm one client that they've lost.

[SirFooK'nG]

Well digichilli still has it pro's - you can have 2 concurrent logins!! + they say you can burst to full 384 speed depending on traffic.. so in all its about the same (if you are going to use it from 2 locations)

[Zenbaas]

Hmmmm, killa... here we are one month later.

Not even 4 months since Seacom went live and these are the prices you are seeing in 2009... not even 2010 yet.

What does it taste like? Those words of yours that you are not chewing?

Want some water with that? :D

Enough already, this is isn't about you FFS. You also predicted our amazing line speed increases for October which we are still waiting for...We all know that it will only happen next year april but seriously, take some humility with being right;)

[d7e7r7]

Try this: http://tinyurl.com/yj8kysv :)

Middle of the first search result.

I'm on local

[EddG]

Well digichilli still has it pro's - you can have 2 concurrent logins!!

True

[cyberarmy]

Do you guys thing there will be other ISPs offering cheaper or similar uncapped packages?

[J0n0]

Our voice is working fine. If you want voice then go to the voice application page.

Apologies. I wasn't talking about your voice service. :o I meant the telkom analog and dsl line rental one has to fork out on. :)


No, I couldn't - my Company uses iBurst :D

it would take forever!

Ouch! I checked the prices thanks! To get lines installed and running it's roughly R 1300?? :( I have no lines in my place yet. *sigh*

[Blaze786]

Do you guys thing there will be other ISPs offering cheaper or similar uncapped packages?

Hope so! I want 4mb full speed after hours at this price ;)

[Garyvdh]

Enough already, this is isn't about you FFS. You also predicted our amazing line speed increases for October which we are still waiting for...We all know that it will only happen next year april but seriously, take some humility with being right;)

but it feels so good to be right! :p

and this is one case where everyone benefits! :D

[SirFooK'nG]

Do you guys thing there will be other ISPs offering cheaper or similar uncapped packages?

If they want to keep clients ... I think the answer is simple... else ISP=Dumb

[YAPOC]

I'm gloating at all the naysayers and pessimists who gave me heck for all these months saying prices would never drop! This thread is (more) proof that they have come down. :D
[I thought that would be pretty self-evident from the content of my posts? :confused:]

iirc you were arguing that prices for physical line + ADSL line rental will drop. They have not. Shout all you want but we're still paying over R500 for a service which is a combined price of 3 different services which should be just one and far less.

And yes, R500 is too much.

[d7e7r7]

Do you guys thing there will be other ISPs offering cheaper or similar uncapped packages?

Yes but that wouldn't happen if these guys didn't jump ship and actually offer these prices in the first place...

[Keeper]

Yes but that wouldn't happen if these guys didn't jump ship and actually offer these prices in the first place...

true - don't wait for "the ultimate ISP Package" !

support these companies! Digichilly, Afrihost and Screamers' uncapped Offer!

You can cancel after a month if a better offer comes along

JUMP SHIP GUYS!!

[Vercogen]

Well digichilli still has it pro's - you can have 2 concurrent logins!! + they say you can burst to full 384 speed depending on traffic.. so in all its about the same (if you are going to use it from 2 locations)

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "2 concurrent logins" mean?

[Keeper]

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "2 concurrent logins" mean?

you can have a PC in the kitchen downloading at 256kbs and one in your PC room ALSO doing 256kbs :)

[YAPOC]

you can have a PC in the kitchen downloading at 256kbs and one in your PC room ALSO doing 256kbs :)

Only if you have two ADSL lines. Why not get 4mbps instead?

[LabAnimal]

Apologies. I wasn't talking about your voice service. :o I meant the telkom analog and dsl line rental one has to fork out on. :)



Ouch! I checked the prices thanks! To get lines installed and running it's roughly R 1300?? :( I have no lines in my place yet. *sigh*

I think you missed this post :


not really, you can have the new adsl active without any installation charges, just a few loopholes:

1) when you apply for the line, do not apply for the adsl. just apply for the normal line only, and ask for closer 2, which costs an additional R26 per month, but the installation charge will be waived. you can cancel the closer option as soon as your line is installed.

2) after your line is installed, apply for adsl self installation. this does not attract an installation charge because no technician needs to come out to your place, everything is done remotely or whatever, and once your adsl is active setting up from your end is easy, or just ask for help from this board.

3) speed up your installation time by calling them everyday to ask about progress. they'll speed up your installation just so you can stop calling them :D

[AntiThesis]

No hang on - surely that can't be right? You're still limited by one single line aren't you? So you and a neighbour could have 1 pc each @ 256k but if you run both connections (through PPPOE) yourself it'd give you half your line speed potential wouldn't it?

Jumping ship already - just waiting for chilli to get back to me as the 2 concurrent is what I want :D

[EddG]

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "2 concurrent logins" mean?

you can connect with 2 modems at the same time. 1 connection office and 2nd Home.

[Keeper]

you can also split the R500 a month between you and a buddy, and each one of you only pay 250 for uncapped 256kbs speeds

[JustAsk]

Well digichilli still has it pro's - you can have 2 concurrent logins!! + they say you can burst to full 384 speed depending on traffic.. so in all its about the same (if you are going to use it from 2 locations)

The 2 logins i agree with but i don't buy a service hoping i'll get better speeds based on the action of others.

[Robocop]

you can have a PC in the kitchen downloading at 256kbs and one in your PC room ALSO doing 256kbs using the same account:)
Fixed:D

[SirFooK'nG]

you can have a PC in the kitchen downloading at 256kbs and one in your PC room ALSO doing 256kbs :)

on seperate ADSL lines....

[Vercogen]

you can also split the R500 a month between you and a buddy, and each one of you only pay 250 for uncapped 256kbs speeds

Thus you wont split the bandwidth speed?

[Keeper]

on seperate ADSL lines....

afaik, if you have a 512kbs line you can do it with a single line, can't you?

[EddG]

Its been 3 hours since i faxed my forms. No email reply no calls.. nothing? does anyone know how long it takes?

[Ryansta]

man they called and said it was a mistake and its now R279... to expensive again, R679 for 384:( i thought i was gonna get internet finally:(

[SirFooK'nG]

Thus you wont split the bandwidth speed?

exactly !

[EddG]

man they called and said it was a mistake and its now R279... to expensive again, R679 for 384:( i thought i was gonna get internet finally:(

Who called?

[hj2k_x]

Now this is MUCH more like it :)

[Pr⊕phet]

/gets ready for the coming screamer-noob-threads :D

[Ryansta]

Who called?

Screamer

[hj2k_x]

/gets ready for the coming screamer-noob-threads :D

LOL, yeah.

Now, as always, damn Telkom have to scrap line rental and reduce adsl line rental, then we'll really be talking :)

[Keeper]

/gets ready for the coming screamer-noob-threads :D

hehe,


I've canceled Afrihost for the 4th time, and I've now switched to Digichilly on the 14th and i would like to switch to Screamer now, help me

[Tjoker]

what did Mweb answer when Screamer asked what are you doing about the prices???

Nothing.....we have lots off misguided clients:)

Bastards!!!!

[Gothan]

Its been 3 hours since i faxed my forms. No email reply no calls.. nothing? does anyone know how long it takes?

Well I faxed through my form after 9 and got my login details by 12:30

[doodsangel]

scrap line rental and reduce adsl line rental, then we'll really be talking :)

hehehe... only if you have Skype or some other VOIP solution. LOL

[EddG]

Screamer

Dude you've lost me. What has changed?

[EddG]

Well I faxed through my form after 9 and got my login details by 12:30

hehe so about 4 hours then

[blunt]

I think there's gonna be a bunch of 'surprise we're Rx.xx less than the lowest price' in the near future.. with masses of clients shifting from one ISP to the next.. so i'm not too keen to jump ship just yet.

[hj2k_x]

hehehe... only if you have Skype or some other VOIP solution. LOL

Haha, :p

A maxxed out 4Mb line 24/7 could get around 1TB a month- that's like R2.50/gig

:)

[Gothan]

hehe so about 4 hours then

Oh but I also phoned them to find out of they received my fax, as I was not too sure that it went through from the office fax machine

[burn]

Haha, :p

A maxxed out 4Mb line 24/7 could get around 1TB a month- that's like R2.50/gig

:)

The storing all that would cost more :p

[hj2k_x]

The storing all that would cost more :p

Haha, it's worth it, dude :)

[Ryansta]

Dude you've lost me. What has changed?

For the screamer wimax solution theres a rental of R279, on the "compare offers" list on screamers website the rental was R169... they have since corrected the website and its R279 rental monthly...

[Kaufies]

Personally, I'm going to wait for Web Africa to release some packages on their new network. If they aren't as good as this, I'm either getting Screamer or DigiChilli.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.:)

Also, well done to Garyvdh. Add my vote for an obnoxious custom title:D

[EddG]

Oh but I also phoned them to find out of they received my fax, as I was not too sure that it went through from the office fax machine

i phoned aswell and they took my number? and now i'm waiting

[fluffy54]

Does anyone know if you can connect both the 2 concurrent connections from digi chilli on the same line? I know its possible in theory with the right router but anyone done it with a different isp? In theory you could have a 512kb uncapped account for R500 then. Connect twice on the same account from a 512kb ADSL line.

[Tjoker]

Personally, I'm going to wait for Web Africa to release some packages on their new network. If they aren't as good as this, I'm either getting Screamer or DigiChilli.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.:)

Also, well done to Garyvdh. Add my vote for an obnoxious custom title:D

+1

i think WA has an Ace or 2 up there sleeves......200GB Local Only account for R99...wink wink

[InnerException]

i think WA has an Ace or 2 up there sleeves......200GB Local Only account for R99...wink wink
I'm currently hoping for something like that from them as well :D

[Keeper]

Does anyone know if you can connect both the 2 concurrent connections from digi chilli on the same line? I know its possible in theory with the right router but anyone done it with a different isp? In theory you could have a 512kb uncapped account for R500 then. Connect twice on the same account from a 512kb ADSL line.

and burstable to 1MB too :)

(obviously only if you have a 1mb line)

[J0n0]

I think you missed this post :

Yeah i have...I found the whole ordering adsl guide after some effort. Thanks!! :o


man they called and said it was a mistake and its now R279... to expensive again, R679 for 384:( i thought i was gonna get internet finally:(


Screamer


For the screamer wimax solution theres a rental of R279, on the "compare offers" list on screamers website the rental was R169... they have since corrected the website and its R279 rental monthly...

Why didnt you just say so in the firts place? *sigh* :rolleyes:


Now, as always, damn Telkom have to scrap line rental and reduce adsl line rental, then we'll really be talking :)

Thats what i said. But in a very confusing way. :D

[jacksback]

Personally, I'm going to wait for Web Africa to release some packages on their new network. If they aren't as good as this, I'm either getting Screamer or DigiChilli.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.:)

Also, well done to Garyvdh. Add my vote for an obnoxious custom title:D

+1

I think WA are going to release very competitive packages, and they have a news server! :)

[Blaze786]

Well I signed up and faxed the form a couple hours ago, and still waiting :(

[Gladiator]

We need an unlimited local package on Saix/IS (30gb isnt unlimited)

[AllBrain]

Just got my Unlimited 384k account name and password. Will give it a spin tonight. :D

[bwana]

+1

I think WA are going to release very competitive packages, and they have a news server! :)Uncapped international access opens up much much more than a local news server. Its almost like having real internet. ;)

I see a fair bit of laurel resting being done by the established providers and a lot of innovation from new entrants.

[rurapente]

unlimited local should be shot and hung on a flag pole. its promoting retail theft.

local access should wrapped-up under the international package. selling them differently is a sin thatt perpetuating the local thought that "international" bandwidth is for the rich and famous.

AllBrain, do post your view please after tonight :)

[Garyvdh]

iirc you were arguing that prices for physical line + ADSL line rental will drop. They have not. Shout all you want but we're still paying over R500 for a service which is a combined price of 3 different services which should be just one and far less.

And yes, R500 is too much.

um, where did I ever say that? :confused:

[Robocop]

I don't want to be in any ISP's shoes right now.... Crunch the numbers and prepare the speeches for the BIG price cuts, and ta-daa..... O sh*t someone beat our pricing already.
Ok ...back to the number crunching...

[Tjoker]

/kicks @YAPOC in the nuts!!!!!!!!!

[Richard7]

This may have been discussed/answered already in this thread but I'm loathed to wade through 29 pages:P so:

Anyone know if Screamer Unlimited ADSL supports multiple concurrent connections?


I'm gonna guess no, since there is no explicit mention of it on their site, but maybe the Screamer rep can give us a definitive answer (if it has not already been provided)?


shot:D

[SirFooK'nG]

We need an unlimited local package on Saix/IS (30gb isnt unlimited)

stuff local only... there shoud be no seperation, just uncapped ! uncapped ... uncapped all the way. Never want to worry about a cap ever!

@Richard7 the answer is no...

[rurapente]

Richard7 -> No.

IRG for Icasa/ISPA president! :)

[Kaufies]

There's been a lot of talk about Telkom increasing line speeds lately; a few people are (apparently) trialing it right now. When these upgrades go through, what will it mean for these new uncapped offerings?

@howzit: Will you increase your speeds to match the new lines or will we be stuck with faster lines but slow packages?

[Gundam]

These guys seem to be coming out with an aggressive ad campaign promoting this offer.

Just saw this being advertised on a large billboard across the Centurion Lake Hotel.

[ForSure]

1 richard7
guys do u think the accounts screamer give out are directly linked to saix/seacom or generated like a system like webafrica/axxess ?
29 pages woot

[Garyvdh]

coming home from Mabula and driving through Bela Bela (Warmbaths) this morning, I saw Pink street pole ads for this Screamer Promotion. Wasn't sure what it was, but I did see the uncapped mentioned. I was gonna check out the link when I got home. But if they are advertising it in all the little dorpies then these guys must be hoping for some serious business! :eek:

[SirFooK'nG]

Richard7 -> No.

IRG for Icasa/ISPA president! :)

Shot ... wouldn't mind a nice big fancy car! :D

[LabAnimal]

on the note of high cost of DSL and line rental and having to have both just to have DSL... It amazes me that Interconnection rates has been tackled and nothing has been done about Telkom raping us with its Line & DSL cost! Its High time this gets addressed!

[howzit]

There's been a lot of talk about Telkom increasing line speeds lately; a few people are (apparently) trialing it right now. When these upgrades go through, what will it mean for these new uncapped offerings?

@howzit: Will you increase your speeds to match the new lines or will we be stuck with faster lines but slow packages?

We do not rely on Telkom to tell us what your line speed is and we do not automatically upgrade/degrade your contract with us.
If you change your speed on your ADSL line then you need to actively inform us and request a change of your ADSL broadband contract with us.

[Blaze786]

We do not rely on Telkom to tell us what your line speed is and we do not automatically upgrade/degrade your contract with us.
If you change your speed on your ADSL line then you need to actively inform us and request a change of your ADSL broadband contract with us.

That wasn't his question... :rolleyes:

If you missed it he asked are you guys going to move with the times and than up the speeds?

[SirFooK'nG]

We do not rely on Telkom to tell us what your line speed is and we do not automatically upgrade/degrade your contract with us.
If you change your speed on your ADSL line then you need to actively inform us and request a change of your ADSL broadband contract with us.

I fully understand whay you are saying. But remember that minimum ADSL speed is 384 right now. So if in the future they (telkom) do away with the 384 as the base. And other ISP's start basing packages on 512, will you follow suite or not?

From what you say, regardles of any of changes, packages will start at 384. Or is this just another bridge to cross at a later point when relevant?

[blunt]

This may have been discussed/answered already in this thread but I'm loathed to wade through 29 pages:P so:

Anyone know if Screamer Unlimited ADSL supports multiple concurrent connections?


I'm gonna guess no, since there is no explicit mention of it on their site, but maybe the Screamer rep can give us a definitive answer (if it has not already been provided)?


shot:D

Just 1 :) I feel your pain.. but you can always search within a thread

[Wogan]

Yeah, Screamer looks like the OMG deal, but I'd like to drop a little math in here.

For starters, no time-throttling looks great, but I don't see that Screamer lets you use your full linespeed after hours - which, say, Axxess does. So in doing the math:

Axxess Uncapped Fibre Express+ thingy at 512kbps is R1499/month. This is the package I have. After 10gb usage in 10 days, they throttle you to 256kbps in the daytime, with your full linespeed after hours.

Screamer 1mbps, R1499/month, with a flat 1mbps rate day and night, 24/7.

Telkom Faster is 1mbps, Fastest is 4mbps, and the price difference is about R90/month (http://www.telkom.co.za/common/pricelist/prices/local/adsl.html).

Assuming, since you're already spending close to R2k/month on phone line rental, adsl upgrade and package, that you spend an additional R90 on a 4mbps line, the difference between Axxess 512k and Screamer 1mbps is huge.

As in, titanic. Disregarding the 10gb you get at 512kbps for the Axxess package, it works out to nearly DOUBLE Screamer's capacity in a given week. Here's a picture that explains it: http://files.arcane.co.za/axxess.png

(3.2mbps is the max I get on my line - YMMV, but I did do this analysis with intent to upgrade my ADSL) (Also feel free to doublecheck my numbers - It's a slow day today, me included :/ )

I know, in my case, that I'm out of the house during peak hours. Mornings, nights and weekends - the only times I really use my connection - it's really fast, averaging 400kB/s (Bytes, not bIts).

So R2000/month for Axxess, or R1910/month for Screamer, you can kinda see why I'll be sticking with Axxess for now.

Unless, of course, if Screamer lets me use my full 4mbps line after hours at no extra charge. Then it's not even a contest ;)

[EddG]

I'M CONNECTED!! Whoop whoop

[doodsangel]

I'M CONNECTED!! Whoop whoop

Do a speedtest please?

[howzit]

That wasn't his question... :rolleyes:

If you missed it he asked are you guys going to move with the times and than up the speeds?

Ooooooh

Yes we will be providing broadband at whatever speeds Telkom can provide. We have no limitation on our systems.

We are already able to provide higher speeds to corporate clients using an ADSL bonding device.

[Kaufies]

Ooooooh

Yes we will be providing broadband at whatever speeds Telkom can provide. We have no limitation on our systems.

We are already able to provide higher speeds to corporate clients using an ADSL bonding device.

Just to confirm: basically, if Telkom do away with the 384 line will you also do away with your 384 package?

^^That's the crux of my initial question. I can understand if you haven't thought that far into the future.

[nastyman]

I've received my username and password too :)

[czc]

Whats it like?

[gregmcc]

I'M CONNECTED!! Whoop whoop

Don't be shy....give us stats! :)

[j@w]

Apparently Screamer ADSL is on their WiMAX backbone/bandwidth which is atrocious aka crap & buggy.

[Garyvdh]

Apparently Screamer ADSL is on their WiMAX backbone/bandwidth which is atrocious aka crap & buggy.

???? :confused:

um, how on earth would that work?

And why would anyone in their right mind feed ADSL in loopback from the ADSL network through a separate network and then to the International pipe?

you got any evidence to back this up?

[Kaufies]

Please post some speed test results

[Blaze786]

Apparently Screamer ADSL is on their WiMAX backbone/bandwidth which is atrocious aka crap & buggy.

Dont feed the troll!

:rolleyes:

[Blaze786]

Still waiting on my details how long does this take?

[Lino]

I go away for one weekend and I come back to this!

WHOOP WHOOP!

Hmmm as a 384K line owner I am highly tempted in the R399 uncapped as it is only R109 more than I am paying for 10GB at Afrihost.

[digital]

I've got my passwords........yeaaaaahhhhh......

[j@w]

Let me refrase,

they haven't had much luck with their WiMax network.

[Kawak]

After surfing thru the screamer website I decided to call them about the wimax unlimited because i'm seriously sick of paying telkom for the voice line that i don't use, and i was going to take the once off rental option (yea R2999 and the equipment stays theirs). This sort of pays for itself over 10 months, then I'll have free line rental.

My only question was damage to the equipment which is not mine, screamer still owns it but if it is damaged I will have to pay for it?????!!!!!!:eek::eek:

Now how does that work? If my telkom cable is stolen telkom, tho very slow at it, must fix it up for me at no cost, if it got hit by lightning or broken by a plane crash, they must fix it.

Howzit, pls explain the idea behind this, and if I'm suppose to pay R3000 for something and it remains screamers then the R3000 should be deposit otherwise I just see loads of BS.

[pkid]

Dumb thing is you can't pay by credit card. I only use credit cards for payment. I'll finish signing up as soon as you allow credit card payment Screamer.

+1

Debit orders freak me out.

[porchrat]

I go away for one weekend and I come back to this!

WHOOP WHOOP!

Hmmm as a 384K line owner I am highly tempted in the R399 uncapped as it is only R109 more than I am paying for 10GB at Afrihost.

I am in the same boat here. Seriously tempting.

[Blaze786]

I've got my passwords........yeaaaaahhhhh......

Please refrain from posting you have your details without posting some results to go alomg with them :p

Geef us speedtests!

[I am Penguin]

Apparently Screamer ADSL is on their WiMAX backbone/bandwidth which is atrocious aka crap & buggy.

AFAIN they have Wimax and mow Seacom, the one to compliment the other!

[SirFooK'nG]

Let me refrase,

they haven't had much luck with their WiMax network.

About as good as iBurst?

[Lino]

I am in the same boat here. Seriously tempting.

To be honest if this is true I see no reason to stick to Afrihost. As one can always find another R109 especially for uncapped internet:D

Afrihost time for you to start doing something. Even your 10GB account is now more expensive

[c10n3d_0r6]

At the 4Mb end yes you're right...But for those of us with 384k connections, nothing comes close to this.

[digital]

i took about 3 hours....

[Blaze786]

At the 4Mb end yes you're right...But for those of us with 384k connections, nothing comes close to this.

Your post makes no sense :erm:

[Blaze786]

i took about 3 hours....

Well I faxed about 3 hours ago and still have nothing...

Edit: NVM Literally just recieved mine will test when I get home and report back

[MidnightWizard]

I think that Telkom are quietly watching and waiting to see how low things go before springing the "Real-Deal"
so that they cannot be accused of uncompetitive behaviour.

Before the end of the year -- GARY ?????

MW

[porchrat]

To be honest if this is true I see no reason to stick to Afrihost. As one can always find another R109 especially for uncapped internet:D

Afrihost time for you to start doing something. Even your 10GB account is now more expensive

I completely agree. Right now the only reason I haven't signed up with Screamer is because I am waiting for you guys to test it for me :D

As soon as I am confident that it is reliable and as fast as they claim I will sign up, but I ain't no guinea-pig. You guys are my guinea-pigs :p

[czc]

Your post makes no sense :erm:

Users with 4mb lines benfit more from axxess 384 uncapped because they get full line speed after hours. We lowly 384k only plebs would be paying for something that only gives half its value. So 384k uncapped for a 384k line surely makes more sense for us.

[Shred]

This thread is cooking

[kilos]

I'M CONNECTED!! Whoop whoop
Great lets look at the results
* Traceroute to www.cnn.com & www.bbc.co.uk
* Speedtest

[doodsangel]

Great lets look at the results
* Traceroute to www.cnn.com & www.bbc.co.uk
* Speedtest

+1

[license]

hmmm I'm assuming those that haven't posted speedtests are because they either don't know how to, or the service is not all that great to post a speedtest?

Go ahead, make my day... I dare ya.

[qu1k_sh0t]

I completely agree. Right now the only reason I haven't signed up with Screamer is because I am waiting for you guys to test it for me :D

As soon as I am confident that it is reliable and as fast as they claim I will sign up, but I ain't no guinea-pig. You guys are my guinea-pigs :p

+1000

Once I get the feeling that a whole heap of people are happy I will order myself a nice 5 or 10 gig account :P Don't do much downloading, but when I want something I want it :D

Also I can't wait to see what WA have up their sleeves. My trial account is still running (didn't rape it like most of the guys) And it is still connected so I want to see what offering they have after this whole thing has calmed down a little bit.

[Techrat]

Just to confirm: basically, if Telkom do away with the 384 line will you also do away with your 384 package?

^^That's the crux of my initial question. I can understand if you haven't thought that far into the future.

If you think about the answer would be, no.

They obviously must base their pricing on the max possible data/bandwidth usage. They have budgeted for the products offered, how can they just up the 384k to 1mb or whatever if Telkom does that?

Not saying they won't, just saying I doubt it for the time being at least

[Madhawk]

Speedtest is found here:

http://www.speedtest.net/index.php

We are waiting....:erm:

[Keeper]

To be honest if this is true I see no reason to stick to Afrihost. As one can always find another R109 especially for uncapped internet:D

Afrihost time for you to start doing something. Even your 10GB account is now more expensive

just one thing though, the afrihost gigs work on 4mb, 1mb, 384 - no difference, they all cost the same - so remember, you are paying for speed increases there


and 1 more thing - afrihost have started all of this, they don't need to do anything. rather look at asking web africa, cybersmart/etc as they are freaken expensive.

[Tjoker]

This thread is like bunnies having babies.....growing growing growing.....but very pleasurable to watch

[Lino]

Question is this a contract or can it be cancelled at anytime?

[Lino]

just one thing though, the afrihost gigs work on 4mb, 1mb, 384 - no difference, they all cost the same - so remember, you are paying for speed increases there


and 1 more thing - afrihost have started all of this, they don't need to do anything. rather look at asking web africa, cybersmart/etc as they are freaken expensive.

I love Afrihost as much as the next guy. However remember their 29GB is only a special not their full price. Thus all ISP's will have to start doing something, that is only common sense.

[J0n0]

Question is this a contract or can it be cancelled at anytime?

Check the site and many posts in this thread...Its a month to month contract. Meaning you give 30 days notice when or if you cancel.

[Kaufies]

Ok, where are those speed tests?

Please :)

[J0n0]

Ok, where are those speed tests?

Please :)

I second that...I think they are lining up their downloads first before coming here. :p

[Garyvdh]

I think that Telkom are quietly watching and waiting to see how low things go before springing the "Real-Deal"
so that they cannot be accused of uncompetitive behaviour.

Before the end of the year -- GARY ?????

I doubt Telkom are going to do any price movements before next year August, but I hope I am wrong. At least I have no evidence or rumours about that.

The rumours I had concerning Telkom had to do with line speed increases which have now been postponed to April next year.

[Tjoker]

I dont understand this month notice thing with Afrihost and ISP's alike.

They say you give 30 days notice, right?

I have an Afrihost account. I mailed the guys in the beginning of this month to cancel. They emailed me i can use the "Control Panel" to this, which i do know and understand. By using this command it terminates the account immediatly..fine..but does it mean im being billed the following month as well. You pay the beginning of the month to use the account......so why give 30 days notice...can someone please shed light on this?

[howzit]

Hi

There will be about a 10min break in service at about 15h30 to do a quick update.

Apologies

[bradrap]

Jeez you go away for a few hours and this thread picks up another 18 pages of discussion. Maybe someone can recap what's happening every 10th page or so for us, don't wanna get fired for not doing any work :P

[Nortic]

I second that...I think they are lining up their downloads first before coming here. :p

Or it sucks so bad they cant access mybb :D

[license]

The rumours I had concerning Telkom had to do with line speed increases which have now been postponed to April next year.

Last I heard, Telkom weren't looking at DSL2 yet simply because VOX are doing line bonding, and Telkom therefore see no reason to increase the line capacity.

Clever boys - thanks VOX for making us live on 4096.

[c10n3d_0r6]

I've been following this thread since I saw this article this morning and am getting tired of all the late comers asking questions the whole time so I'm going to make a little FAQ...Maybe someone who posted at the beginning of this thread can edit their post with it or something. I've only included fixed line details. If someone can make a WiMax one I'll add it to this or anyone is welcome to use this for their own FAQ.

Required for all ADSL accounts is the phone line rental from Telkom
Analog Phone line: R131

Total Costs Plus ADSL Line Rental (Uncapped/Unlimited)
R131 + ADSL line rental: R152 + 384kb Uncapped: R399 (ISP) = R682
R131 + ADSL line rental: R326 + 512kb Uncapped: R799 (ISP) = R1256
R131 + ADSL line rental: R413 + 1024kb Uncapped: R1499 (ISP) = R2043
R131 + ADSL line rental: R413 + 4096kb Uncapped: R2499 (ISP) = R3043

Who do I pay what?
The total cost shown is what you will pay in total. You will have to pay the Phone and ADSL line rental to Telkom and the ISP charges to Screamer

How many concurrent connections are supported?
1. This means only one ADSL line can be active with the username/password and any one time. It does not affect how many devices are connected to this line via a router however. You can still connect you Laptop, PC, PSP, Cellphone or whatever to the line via your home's router.

Where does the bandwidth come from?
A mixture of both SAIX and Seacom bandwidth.

Is there local cap?
There is no need for local cap because the blended bandwidth never runs out.

Do I have to pay a full month is I signup halfway?
No, you will pay for the rest of this month on a pro-rata basis with next month paying the full amount.

Is my bandwidth throttled during office hours?
No!

Will I get my full line speed after hours?
No. You will get one speed throughout the month regardless of the time. That speed will be the lowest of either your line speed or the ISP speed you choose.

Is the bandwidth shaped?
No. In the conventional sense...You can game with it but heavy p2p traffic may be shaped...

[license]

Nice summary c10n3d_0r6

Thanks

[Garyvdh]

Last I heard, Telkom weren't looking at DSL2 yet simply because VOX are doing line bonding, and Telkom therefore see no reason to increase the line capacity.

Clever boys - thanks VOX for making us live on 4096.

The line upgrades are definitely on the cards. There are numerous threads now on this forum which will confirm this.

[Gargmel]

Anybody know what the pro rata price from now till end of the month is, if I sign up today?

[Patty]

...BUT how many concurrent connections are supported? :D :p:p:p:p:p

[czc]

...BUT how many concurrent connections are supported? :D :p:p:p:p:p

1
One
EEN

[doodsangel]

...BUT how many concurrent connections are supported? :D :p:p:p:p:p

*b17ch slap*

[mrudling]

I've been following this thread since I saw this article this morning and am getting tired of all the late comers asking questions the whole time so I'm going to make a little FAQ...Maybe someone who posted at the beginning of this thread can edit their post with it or something. I've only included fixed line details. If someone can make a WiMax one I'll add it to this or anyone is welcome to use this for their own FAQ.

Required for all ADSL accounts is the phone line rental from Telkom
Analog Phone line: R131

Total Costs Plus ADSL Line Rental (Uncapped/Unlimited)
R131 + ADSL line rental: R152 + 384kb Uncapped: R399 (ISP) = R682
R131 + ADSL line rental: R326 + 512kb Uncapped: R799 (ISP) = R1256
R131 + ADSL line rental: R413 + 1024kb Uncapped: R1499 (ISP) = R2043
R131 + ADSL line rental: R413 + 4096kb Uncapped: R2499 (ISP) = R3043

Who do I pay what?
The total cost shown is what you will pay in total. You will have to pay the Phone and ADSL line rental to Telkom and the ISP charges to Screamer

How many concurrent connections are supported?
1. This means only one ADSL line can be active with the username/password and any one time. It does not affect how many devices are connected to this line via a router however. You can still connect you Laptop, PC, PSP, Cellphone or whatever to the line via your home's router.

Where does the bandwidth come from?
A mixture of both SAIX and Seacom bandwidth.

Is there local cap?
There is no need for local cap because the blended bandwidth never runs out.

Do I have to pay a full month is I signup halfway?
No, you will pay for the rest of this month on a pro-rata basis with next month paying the full amount.

Is my bandwidth throttled during office hours?
No!

Will I get my full line speed after hours?
No. You will get one speed throughout the month regardless of the time. That speed will be the lowest of either your line speed or the ISP speed you choose.

Is the bandwidth shaped?
No. In the conventional sense...You can game with it but heavy p2p traffic may be shaped...

Yes, that great, but how many gigs do I get? :D:D:D

Nice roundup

[Blaze786]

Anybody know what the pro rata price from now till end of the month is, if I sign up today?

Well just about half? I am sure you could do the math if you tried.

R399 / 30 days = R13.30
R13.30 * 16 days = R212.80
R399 - R212.80 = R186.2

Approximately

[ettubrute]

R212.80 - R399 = R186.2Reverse calculation? :p

[cda]

Hi

There will be about a 10min break in service at about 15h30 to do a quick update.

Apologies

rofl. So it begins. Maintenance at 15h30, and RFC-1918 addresses on IPC.

"You get what you pay for" is what I'm looking for I guess..

[Kraai2009]

@Howzit

The wimax deals came down also on your website, I love it, very good pricing on that as well.

Is the per gig wimax deals also unshaped 24/7?
There is no pricing on wimax per gig deals for linespeeds greater than 512 lines, where shall I get those prices?

Howzit, you missed this????

[Blaze786]

Reverse calculation? :p

My bad was doing 15 things at once :p

[TomasW]

Ok so what is happening with those Speed Tests. :mad: That is the only thing stopping me from signing up.