Uncapped ADSL at R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB

[Simple.]

Hello Screamer Uncapped;
Goodbye Axxess Uncapped

[rurapente]

im not jumping ship that quickly. this will have to prove itself for longer first.

[InnerException]

I'm hopeful, but will wait a month or two for more feedback before I change from Afrihost. If all things go smoothly, I'm in.

[howzit]

Hi Howzit, I have a question

My main problem currently is that i cannot access my one mail pop server. Pop.eastcoast.co.za.

When you tracert scribe.eastcoast.co.za, you get timeouts almost instantaneously, does this have something to do with your current issues or what?

Hi G

We have accessed the site from a number of different points so we are not picking up any problems from our side. If the problem persists please open a ticket with support and they will check your settings.

[Gothan]

Thanks man, will do so

[Blaze786]

WELL I CANCELLED MY ACCOUNT AND SUPRISE SUPRISE THEY STILL BILL ME!

Screamer is no better than afrihost when it comes to billing!

Their QOS was cr@p now they bill me for a cancelled service!

[saa044]

@howzit, can the 384 speeds be guarenteed to be 384 or will we get something like 128/256k on the wireless connections? Please let me know as screamer is coming to my place today to do a signal test.

[EddG]

Ive got a 4mbps line, 4mbps unshaped acc?
I'm connected to a 100 seeds and my top download speed is only 45KB\s.
WTF!! i'm very upset. if this is how things are going to be, then i'm sorry screamer im jumping ship again!

[saa044]

Ive got a 4mbps line, 4mbps unshaped acc?
I'm connected to a 100 seeds and my top download speed is only 45KB\s.
WTF!! i'm very upset. if this is how things are going to be, then i'm sorry screamer im jumping ship again!

Looks like EDDG awnsered my question for me. Howzit please reply to my question and allso explain why 4mbps is doing so porely.

[saffakanera]

Holy Moses give them a WEEK guys, a fkn WEEK!

[Gothan]

How many companies out there are using seacom as a provider?

[Kawak]

If I can take your word for it (as opposed to the sale rep over the phone) then I want this service, I am soooooo sick of paying telkom R131 voice line rental, the bill really looks horrible that I made R3 worth of calls and have to pay R131 for line.

Any ping numbers on WiMAX? and speedtests?

=EDIT=

One more question, if the phone service is VoIP over the Wimax band, what if i'm downloadin heavy? will that then cripple the voice line?

Hi Kawak

Unfortunately we don't or can't sell the CPE's (same as Telkom WiMAX). I dont know the answer why only that it cannot or is not sold. More importantly if it goes faulty or gets damaged Screamer fixes it for nothing.

[saa044]

Holy Moses give them a WEEK guys, a fkn WEEK!

Well yeah I agree with that, but I at least want the reassurance that it will get better and not stay like that. All im asking.

[SirFooK'nG]

Well yeah I agree with that, but I at least want the reassurance that it will get better and not stay like that. All im asking.

I can't believe there are still some out there who are moaning about the current situation. Screamer reps have clearly said they have a problem and it should take a week to sort out... That being the case, and from my experience with ISP's (iBurst) that week could be like more than 100 days!!!

[Gezza]

You know what you "MOANERS" makes me think about...FAT AMERICANS!!! always ready to complain. Everyone is a F$%#ING Hipocrate!

[Slayeruser]

@ Howzit
On the website under the Wimax option there is the sigh "WIMAX DATA
ONLY R23 per GB"

Yet when I phone to apply, the price is 1GB 512 kbps R153.00

Even if you take the 50GB option at R1280, it works out to R25.60

Please explain to me how that is not false advertising?????

[Blaze786]

You know what you "MOANERS" makes me think about...FAT AMERICANS!!! always ready to complain. Everyone is a F$%#ING Hipocrate!

How am I a Hipocrate? I tested the service was very optimistic and it failed dismally? I than requested for it to be cancelled as per howsit saying they would happily cancel if the natting was a problem which it most definately was, yet I STILL GOT BILLED FOR A NOW CANCELLED SERVICE?

[Kraai2009]

@ Howzit
On the website under the Wimax option there is the sigh "WIMAX DATA
ONLY R23 per GB"

Yet when I phone to apply, the price is 1GB 512 kbps R153.00

Even if you take the 50GB option at R1280, it works out to R25.60

Please explain to me how that is not false advertising?????

Remember, on the WIMAX, you still need to pay for your "wimax line rental" at the speed you are applying for, and it looks like the price as quoted includes this. The line is R 130.00 pm, if you deduct this from the gig price quoted, you will get R 23.00/Gig.

Howzit, I realy think that a simple thing like this, your call center support should be able to explain this to a customer, they obviosly can not?

[Gezza]

How am I a Hipocrate? I tested the service was very optimistic and it failed dismally? I than requested for it to be cancelled as per howsit saying they would happily cancel if the natting was a problem which it most definately was, yet I STILL GOT BILLED FOR A NOW CANCELLED SERVICE?

yip...was pointing all my fingers towards you.

[howzit]

WELL I CANCELLED MY ACCOUNT AND SUPRISE SUPRISE THEY STILL BILL ME!

Screamer is no better than afrihost when it comes to billing!

Their QOS was cr@p now they bill me for a cancelled service!

In some cases the debit order processing went through before you cancelled but our CEO has instructed that everyone who has cancelled after the debit order has gone through mist be refunded immediately.


@howzit, can the 384 speeds be guarenteed to be 384 or will we get something like 128/256k on the wireless connections? Please let me know as screamer is coming to my place today to do a signal test.

Neither Screamer, or any ISP, are able to guarantee speeds. However that said we have a lot more control over the speeds you receive on our WiMAX network because it is completely under our control and most of our clients get very close to their provisioned speeds.


If I can take your word for it (as opposed to the sale rep over the phone) then I want this service, I am soooooo sick of paying telkom R131 voice line rental, the bill really looks horrible that I made R3 worth of calls and have to pay R131 for line.

Any ping numbers on WiMAX? and speedtests?

=EDIT=

One more question, if the phone service is VoIP over the Wimax band, what if i'm downloadin heavy? will that then cripple the voice line?

Although we run QOS on voice if you are heavily contending your connection then there might be some degradation on the voice quality.


@ Howzit
On the website under the Wimax option there is the sigh "WIMAX DATA
ONLY R23 per GB"

Yet when I phone to apply, the price is 1GB 512 kbps R153.00

Even if you take the 50GB option at R1280, it works out to R25.60

Please explain to me how that is not false advertising?????

You are quoting the price inclusive of the WiMAX connection fee and tel line fee which is R130.00. You can compare this to Telkoms 512 ADSL connection fee and line charge which totals (131 + R326) = R 457

If you look at the price of our 2G package its price is R 176 which is R23 up from the 1Gb price.

Another way of looking at this is that for the price of your 512 ADSL line and connection that you pay Telkom of R457, with Screamer WiMAX you get the same connections and line and 13Gb of data.

[Slayeruser]

You are quoting the price inclusive of the WiMAX connection fee and tel line fee which is R130.00. You can compare this to Telkoms 512 ADSL connection fee and line charge which totals (131 + R326) = R 457

If you look at the price of our 2G package its price is R 176 which is R23 up from the 1Gb price.

Another way of looking at this is that for the price of your 512 ADSL line and connection that you pay Telkom of R457, with Screamer WiMAX you get the same connections and line and 13Gb of data.

Thanks for the clarification. Something that the call center should make clear from the start!!
And Screamer advertises it at R91, not R131
http://www.screamer.co.za/voice_compare.php

[Antybubbs]

I am very disappointed with screamer, signed up for a 10GB account and have had endless problems since, keeps disconnecting and i keep loosing international bandwidth

[saffakanera]

I am very disappointed with screamer, signed up for a 10GB account and have had endless problems since, keeps disconnecting and i keep loosing international bandwidth

It should be resolved by next week man, then it will be smooth sailling.

[Blaze786]

In some cases the debit order processing went through before you cancelled but our CEO has instructed that everyone who has cancelled after the debit order has gone through mist be refunded immediately.



Neither Screamer, or any ISP, are able to guarantee speeds. However that said we have a lot more control over the speeds you receive on our WiMAX network because it is completely under our control and most of our clients get very close to their provisioned speeds.



Although we run QOS on voice if you are heavily contending your connection then there might be some degradation on the voice quality.



You are quoting the price inclusive of the WiMAX connection fee and tel line fee which is R130.00. You can compare this to Telkoms 512 ADSL connection fee and line charge which totals (131 + R326) = R 457

If you look at the price of our 2G package its price is R 176 which is R23 up from the 1Gb price.

Another way of looking at this is that for the price of your 512 ADSL line and connection that you pay Telkom of R457, with Screamer WiMAX you get the same connections and line and 13Gb of data.

All well and good but I have emailed michelle a number of times and she has not replied...

[Antybubbs]

It should be resolved by next week man, then it will be smooth sailling.

What is the issue?

[howzit]

Thanks for the clarification. Something that the call center should make clear from the start!!
And Screamer advertises it at R91, not R131
http://www.screamer.co.za/voice_compare.php

The R40 for the 512k WiMAX connection is included in the quoted broadband price so that it does not create confusion. Unfortunately our call centre is technical and don't really deal with subscriptions but they are helping out this week for obvious reasons. I will update them though.

[saffakanera]

What is the issue?

DNS and NAT issues at the moment, they are running scripts. Support accidentally transferred me to one of the main guns there yesterday, we had a nice quick chat :) lol, shame the guy sounded exhausted but he confirmed they were running scripts to *i guess* address the IP issue, I asked him if I could expect some sort of normality by next week, he assured me this week/weekend!

Again this was from one of the senior gents there at Screamer, so please keep your hopes up those guys sound like they are moving to resolve this.

He just laughed about the massive influx of new subscribers they received, its crazy :)


IMHO no right minded ISP would allow this sort of performance as a norm of operations for a very long period of time, even when starting up a new service, believe it, this will get sorted asap.

[saa044]

I can't believe there are still some out there who are moaning about the current situation. Screamer reps have clearly said they have a problem and it should take a week to sort out... That being the case, and from my experience with ISP's (iBurst) that week could be like more than 100 days!!!

I am not moaning, just want to make sure I get what I pay for. Anyhow I am connected now via wireless and thus far it looks very good.

[saffakanera]

Im sure things will just get better, its time we properly rally behind a company here on mybb who actually aims to change the pricing spectrum for once.

[SirFooK'nG]

I'm signing up... will run my iBurst & Screamer together for the next month...

[Slayeruser]

The R40 for the 512k WiMAX connection is included in the quoted broadband price so that it does not create confusion. Unfortunately our call centre is technical and don't really deal with subscriptions but they are helping out this week for obvious reasons. I will update them though.

Charges apon charges apon charges, no wonder we in SA paying so much.
Next big ISP will not have to drop their per GB prices, but their monthly charges, and the price will be almost half!!!!

[bradrap]

perhaps invest in some literacy classes before adsl :P

[Kawak]

Hi Screamer Rep

So for the 384 uncapped wimax, how much line rental do i have to pay over and above the quoted R396 per month? If the data packages are charged at R130 then why is it that under equipment it says R279? Please clarify.

Also if you can offer data at 512 then I should be okay with my voice even if I download a lot then :D:D:D

How can i arrange for a signal test?

Thanks

[plazma]

OK, can anyone give us some feedback on how good/bad the 384 ADSL part of Screamer is?
I'm thinking of cancelling my Cybersmart, (the deafening silence continues) to get Screamer. Thanks.

[bradrap]

OK, can anyone give us some feedback on how good/bad the 384 ADSL part of Screamer is?
I'm thinking of cancelling my Cybersmart, (the deafening silence continues) to get Screamer. Thanks.

The general concensus is to wait a couple weeks to see how they're maintaining the networks then.

[saa044]

OK, can anyone give us some feedback on how good/bad the 384 ADSL part of Screamer is?
I'm thinking of cancelling my Cybersmart, (the deafening silence continues) to get Screamer. Thanks.

Cant speak for ADSL, but over wireless its flying thus far. I will see if theres any difference tonight as most ppl on screamer are working now.

EDIT

Yes I am on the 384 unlimited package

[Slayeruser]

Hi Screamer Rep

So for the 384 uncapped wimax, how much line rental do i have to pay over and above the quoted R396 per month? If the data packages are charged at R130 then why is it that under equipment it says R279? Please clarify.

Also if you can offer data at 512 then I should be okay with my voice even if I download a lot then :D:D:D

How can i arrange for a signal test?

Thanks

It is R279/month for the CPE equipment or you can purchase it for something like R2999. If you purchase it, you will not have to pay the R279 monthly.
Then there is a line rental of R130, which includes the R40 connection charge, then it is the uncapped package.

This is how I understand it anyway

[Ryansta]

So its R399(uncapped) + R279(equipment) + R130(line)?????????
if so dam that sucks i thought it was just R399 + either equipment wifi or wimax:(

[Nortic]

Neither Screamer, or any ISP, are able to guarantee speeds.

Screamer, or any ISP, are able to guarantee speeds.

[Kawak]

It is R279/month for the CPE equipment or you can purchase it for something like R2999. If you purchase it, you will not have to pay the R279 monthly.
Then there is a line rental of R130, which includes the R40 connection charge, then it is the uncapped package.

This is how I understand it anyway

This is rather expensive then. I was hoping to just pay the R2999 and then only pay for the Wimax, if there is another R130 then forget it, I'll stick to ADSL and pay telkom R131 for line rental.

Honestly doesn't make much sense since they are saving on last mile IPC charges when offering it via Wimax.

[Pr⊕phet]

Screamer, or any ISP, are able to guarantee speeds.

sure; they would like to be certainly, but unfortunately they can't guarantee 100% up time or throughput as things as cable theft or service degradation can step in which are on telkom side's of problems and fixing. no to mention they don't control sat3/seacom.

[saa044]

This is rather expensive then. I was hoping to just pay the R2999 and then only pay for the Wimax, if there is another R130 then forget it, I'll stick to ADSL and pay telkom R131 for line rental.

Honestly doesn't make much sense since they are saving on last mile IPC charges when offering it via Wimax.

Just looked on their web site. http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_compare.php The R131 is only if you have a ADSL line. You also have the option to buy the wireless kit wich consists of a RB411 board, R52 radio, Pigtail, LMR and 24DB grid, but then if something breaks you have to replace it, not screamer.

Oh yeah this is for the wireless 2.4Ghz link and not wimax, but the same still applies about the line rental, only applicable for ADSL users.

[J0n0]

Just looked on their web site. http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_compare.php The R131 is only if you have a ADSL line. You also have the option to buy the wireless kit wich consists of a RB411 board, R52 radio, Pigtail, LMR and 24DB grid, but then if something breaks you have to replace it, not screamer.

Oh yeah this is for the wireless 2.4Ghz link and not wimax, but the same still applies about the line rental, only applicable for ADSL users.

Dude, read through the whole post...They DO replace the equipment at their cost if it fails. :rolleyes:

[daffy]

Dude, read through the whole post...They DO replace the equipment at their cost if it fails. :rolleyes:

Only the WiMax equipment. They use WiFi in some areas, and WiMax in others. Different equipment, different rules.

[saa044]

Ohh just want to add this bit, if you dont have screamer wimax access you can still apply for Telkom wimax and then you only pay R399 a month to screamer and R250 a month to Telkom.

[wesleyfraser]

Good Luck trying to get wimax from telkom...

[Techrat]

Good Luck trying to get wimax from telkom...

Is it true that Telkom is discontinuing WiMax?

[wesleyfraser]

I enquired through 10217 yesterday and was told that they don't do wimax anymore.

[Kraai2009]

This is rather expensive then. I was hoping to just pay the R2999 and then only pay for the Wimax, if there is another R130 then forget it, I'll stick to ADSL and pay telkom R131 for line rental.

Honestly doesn't make much sense since they are saving on last mile IPC charges when offering it via Wimax.

On the WIMAX your line rental of R130.00 is included in your uncapped price of R 396.00, so, you only pay the R 396.00 pm. Read the part of whats included here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_unlimited.php

It is also included in te per/gig charges here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_data.php

The only time that it is not included, is when you have your own ADSL line and paying telkom for it.

As far as I can see, there are no "hidden" charges, you pay the amount as advertised.

[Ryansta]

@howzit: PLease confirm that we can purchase our own equipment to join the screamer wimax network?

[J0n0]

Only the WiMax equipment. They use WiFi in some areas, and WiMax in others. Different equipment, different rules.

My deepest Apologies. :confused: I think i need sleep instead of being a clueless troll. :o

[Kawak]

On the WIMAX your line rental of R130.00 is included in your uncapped price of R 396.00, so, you only pay the R 396.00 pm. Read the part of whats included here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_unlimited.php

It is also included in te per/gig charges here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_data.php

The only time that it is not included, is when you have your own ADSL line and paying telkom for it.

As far as I can see, there are no "hidden" charges, you pay the amount as advertised.
I'd really really really love it if its this way but then why is there a separate page for wimax equipment?

Also the callcenter pple I spoke to were absolutely certain that I still have to pay R279 on top of the wimax uncapped package per month.

Please clarify this screamer rep (howzit)

[saa044]

I'd really really really love it if its this way but then why is there a separate page for wimax equipment?

Also the callcenter pple I spoke to were absolutely certain that I still have to pay R279 on top of the wimax uncapped package per month.

Please clarify this screamer rep (howzit)

Thats only if you rent the equipment over a 6 month period. If you pay the full R2999 then you dont pay R279. Either way you end up paying more or less the same and it still stays their property, I find that last part unfair though. As I understand it if it stays their property they will replace any broken equipment.

[howzit]

On the WIMAX your line rental of R130.00 is included in your uncapped price of R 396.00, so, you only pay the R 396.00 pm. Read the part of whats included here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_unlimited.php

It is also included in te per/gig charges here: http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_data.php

The only time that it is not included, is when you have your own ADSL line and paying telkom for it.

As far as I can see, there are no "hidden" charges, you pay the amount as advertised.

Let me try and clarify the Capped WiMAX charges so that you guys don't have to hope you read the website correctly

The base charge advertised per Gb includes the connection charge to the network and the line rental because you automatically get allocated a tel no and connection. This combined cost is R 130 p/m

A 1Gb Wimax package therefore costs R23 plus R130 which is the R153 you see on the WiMAX costs page.

To connect to a WiMAX network you need to have a modem (CPE) installed in your premises. This modem can be rented from Screamer for R279 p/m or you can pay a once off rental of R2999. If you opt for the rental this will then be added to the monthly data and connection costs which for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 279) = R 432

Thereafter every additional GB costs R23.

We do have WiFi coverage in certain areas which is also run on licenced spectrum so you dont get the type of connection interference typically associated with a WiFi network. The only difference between this cost and the WiMAX one outlined above is that the modem (CPE) installed in the premises can be rented once off for R1699 or rented monthly for R179. In this case the monthly charge for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 179) = R332

If you already have a Microtik modem (CPE) then you can use it on our WiFi network and will need to upgrade it to licenced spectrum at a cost of R100 and purchase a voice gateway from us at R500.

I hope this helps but if you have any additional questions please PM me.

[comtech09]

doodsangel
Member Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 17



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Originally Posted by NomNom
Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551...

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

This is the true potential downloads on uncapped 384Kb

384Kb/1024Kb = 37.5Kb/s
24 hours * 30 days * 60 mins * 60 Secs = 2592000 secs per month
2592000 secs per month * 37.5Kb/s = 97200000Kb / 1024 Kb = 94921.875MB / 1024Kb = 92.69 Gigs per month if you can stay awake for 30 days without sleep hahaha, so you will never download more than 92.69 GB a month, Screamer uncapped R399 / 92.69GB = R 4,30c per GB wonderful pricing
and if you work and have other things to do you lucky if you get 30GB per month, which = Screamer uncapped R399 / 30GB = R 13,30c per GB which is still wonderful pricing, but watch Telkom improve on that pricing soon :)

[Valerion]

doodsangel
Member Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 17



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Quote:
Originally Posted by NomNom
Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551...

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

This is the true potential downloads on uncapped 384Kb

384Kb/1024Kb = 37.5Kb/s
24 hours * 30 days * 60 mins * 60 Secs = 2592000 secs per month
2592000 secs per month * 37.5Kb/s = 97200000Kb / 1024 Kb = 94921.875MB / 1024Kb = 92.69 Gigs per month if you can stay awake for 30 days without sleep hahaha, so you will never download more than 92.69 GB a month, Screamer uncapped R399 / 92.69GB = R 4,30c per GB wonderful pricing
and if you work and have other things to do you lucky if you get 30GB per month, which = Screamer uncapped R399 / 30GB = R 13,30c per GB which is still wonderful pricing, but watch Telkom improve on that pricing soon :)


The cheapest you can get 30GB for right now is R23 from Screamer, which translates to R690 per month, or almost double their uncapped offering. You will break even at 17GB.

Many things you can do happens in the background. You don't need to be awake 24/7 to download things, your PC can do automated updates, you can queue things into a download manager, etc. I regularly download Linux ISO images of at least 4GB each, because I do a lot of testing of varous distributions. There's things like Second Life and YouTube that consumes a large amount of bandwidth.

And I doubt Telkom will drop prices any time soon either. They have a largely captive audience. Some ISP's get away with ridiculous pricing (e.g. MWeb), so there is a demand for that kind of solution too.

[saa044]

Let me try and clarify WiMAX charges so that you guys don't have to hope you read the website correctly

The base charge advertised per Gb includes the connection charge to the network and the line rental because you automatically get allocated a tel no and connection. This combined cost is R 130 p/m

A 1Gb Wimax package therefore costs R23 plus R130 which is the R153 you see on the WiMAX costs page.

To connect to a WiMAX network you need to have a modem (CPE) installed in your premises. This modem can be rented from Screamer for R279 p/m or you can pay a once off rental of R2999. If you opt for the rental this will then be added to the monthly data and connection costs which for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 279) = R 432

Thereafter every additional GB costs R23.

We do have WiFi coverage in certain areas which is also run on licenced spectrum so you dont get the type of connection interference typically associated with a WiFi network. The only difference between this cost and the WiMAX one outlined above is that the modem (CPE) installed in the premises can be rented once off for R1699 or rented monthly for R179. In this case the monthly charge for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 179) = R332

If you already have a Microtik modem (CPE) then you can use it on our WiFi network and will need to upgrade it to licenced spectrum at a cost of R100 and purchase a voice gateway from us at R500.

I hope this helps but if you have any additional questions please PM me.

Ok just to clarify things, because im pretty confused now. :p I opt for the wireless 2.4Ghz option from you guys and they installed it today. As I understand it I will be paying R179 for the equipment per month for 6 months and R396 for the 384 uncapped option wich works out to about R575?

[howzit]

Let me try and clarify the Capped WiMAX charges so that you guys don't have to hope you read the website correctly

The base charge advertised per Gb includes the connection charge to the network and the line rental because you automatically get allocated a tel no and connection. This combined cost is R 130 p/m

A 1Gb Wimax package therefore costs R23 plus R130 which is the R153 you see on the WiMAX costs page.

To connect to a WiMAX network you need to have a modem (CPE) installed in your premises. This modem can be rented from Screamer for R279 p/m or you can pay a once off rental of R2999. If you opt for the rental this will then be added to the monthly data and connection costs which for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 279) = R 432

Thereafter every additional GB costs R23.

We do have WiFi coverage in certain areas which is also run on licenced spectrum so you dont get the type of connection interference typically associated with a WiFi network. The only difference between this cost and the WiMAX one outlined above is that the modem (CPE) installed in the premises can be rented once off for R1699 or rented monthly for R179. In this case the monthly charge for a 1Gb package will be (153 + 179) = R332

If you already have a Microtik modem (CPE) then you can use it on our WiFi network and will need to upgrade it to licenced spectrum at a cost of R100 and purchase a voice gateway from us at R500.

I hope this helps but if you have any additional questions please PM me.



I also need to clarify the WiMAX UNLIMITED packge all in costs.

A screamer WiMAX Unlimited 384kbps package costs R396 p/m. (The other speeds costs are on the website here http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_unlimited.php

This prices INCLUDE's all WiMAX line and connection fees.

If comparing to Telkom ADSL the line fee would be R131 and the ADSL 384Kbps connection fee is R152 giving a total Telkom charge of R 283 that would need to be added to our 384 Unlimited data price of R399 giving you complete adsl package cost of R682.

However to connect to the WiMAX network you would need a WiMAX CPE which could be rented monthly for R279 or for a once off rental fee of R2999.

If you are connecting to our WiFi network you would need a WiFi CPE which could be rented monhly for R179 or for a once off rental of R1699.

[howzit]

Ok just to clarify things, because im pretty confused now. :p I opt for the wireless 2.4Ghz option from you guys and they installed it today. As I understand it I will be paying R179 for the equipment per month for 6 months and R396 for the 384 uncapped option wich works out to about R575?

Thats right except the monthly rental is not limited to 6 months???

[cda]

@howzit: PLease confirm that we can purchase our own equipment to join the screamer wimax network?

You can not ever use your own equipment to join any wimax network. I is all flashed specifically for the frequency range that is licensed.

[comtech09]

The cheapest you can get 30GB for right now is R23 from Screamer, which translates to R690 per month, or almost double their uncapped offering. You will break even at 17GB.

Many things you can do happens in the background. You don't need to be awake 24/7 to download things, your PC can do automated updates, you can queue things into a download manager, etc. I regularly download Linux ISO images of at least 4GB each, because I do a lot of testing of varous distributions. There's things like Second Life and YouTube that consumes a large amount of bandwidth.

And I doubt Telkom will drop prices any time soon either. They have a largely captive audience. Some ISP's get away with ridiculous pricing (e.g. MWeb), so there is a demand for that kind of solution too.

Well if you phone Telkom 0800500200 and you get to the right rep you'll
know that Telkom is at this moment discussing uncapped accounts.:)

And I said that if you bought the Screamer uncapped R 399 384Kb Account you'll technically be paying R 13,30 Per GB

[Kraai2009]

You can not ever use your own equipment to join any wimax network. I is all flashed specifically for the frequency range that is licensed.

Uhmmm, the rep said you can use your own Microtik modem (CPE), but they will have to upgrade it for R 100.00.



If you already have a Microtik modem (CPE) then you can use it on our WiFi network and will need to upgrade it to licenced spectrum at a cost of R100 and purchase a voice gateway from us at R500.

[cda]

Uhmmm, the rep said you can use your own Microtik modem (CPE), but they will have to upgrade it for R 100.00.

Yes. Wifi and WiMAX are two very different things.

[Valerion]

Well if you phone Telkom 0800500200 and you get to the right rep you'll
know that Telkom is at this moment discussing uncapped accounts.:)

And I said that if you bought the Screamer uncapped R 399 384Kb Account you'll technically be paying R 13,30 Per GB

I think you can on a regular basis do more than 30GB on an account, without trying hard, though probably not more than 50 regularly. When I was playing with WA trial accounts, I easily did in excess 25GB on my line without even trying hard. I think your 30GB figure is a bit low.

In any event, I would rather go for a more expensive 512kbps account or similar.

[Kraai2009]

I have cancelled my previous 512 line with Screamer, and upgraded to their 1 Meg WIMAX line. On my previous deal, I was capped at 10 Gigs per month, line speed 512. Now I am capped at 20 Gigs per month, line is 1 Meg, and I get a free tel number and tel line, and it is costing me R 300.00 per month less than what I previously paid.

As for speeds, I am happy.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/626384065.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Ryansta]

haha k some1 please tell me how much a wifi CPE router/modem would cost so i can own the equipment

[schurtek]

Pity, screamer was not interested in my business...

[howzit]

Pity, screamer was not interested in my business...

Hi Schurtek

We have tried really hard not to let anyone down and if you feel you have "fallen through the cracks" please let me know and I will get it fixed.

[Kawak]

HI Howzit

Can I arrange a signal test at my place for either wifi or wimax, I will opt for the once off rental option.

Thanks.

[FragMePleaz]

I have sum qwestions

1. Why are sumo or most of the ports blocked eg port 21 ,22 ,25 ,119

ok i Know transparent rederct to smtp.screamer.co.za but i want to use my one smtp
o and wat is the max emails i can send over smtp.screamer.co.za per hour?

and wat is with blocked port 119 the port most nntp servers use?

2. When is it expected the random out iges will stop
3. when is the speed of at least http going 2 become stabel
4. Are we going to get Public ips like regular adsl or is this wat is to be aspected from you get wat you pay for ??

[sallyspencer]

today has been rough and still is.......had a lot of down time and downloads keep timing out......

[Super78]

today has been rough and still is.......had a lot of down time and downloads keep timing out......

Thinking of canceling? or waiting for them to sort the public Ip problem?

[sallyspencer]

Thinking of canceling? or waiting for them to sort the public Ip problem?

hasn't even crossed my mind.......

I am a ''sticker'' once I find the right price......:D:D:D

[Kawak]

So you guys still behind a NAT? how r they able to forward you all the ports you need for torrents? guess that port forwarding list must be miles long :D

So is Wimax also behind NAT?

[Super78]

hasn't even crossed my mind.......

I am a ''sticker'' once I find the right price......:D:D:D

even if the services and speed suck?
and you only able to download a gig a month and pay R400 for uncapped
where as you could be using afrihost and only pay R29 a gig

I'm considering signing up but after looking at the speeds I'm having major doubts

will give them till next week to sort out all the problems......will see what happens

[Super78]

So you guys still behind a NAT? how r they able to forward you all the ports you need for torrents? guess that port forwarding list must be miles long :D

So is Wimax also behind NAT?

That's going to be sorted out by next week hopefully

[Super78]

I don't see the necessity of having uncapped if you can't make full use of it

[cavedog]

So you guys still behind a NAT? how r they able to forward you all the ports you need for torrents? guess that port forwarding list must be miles long :D

So is Wimax also behind NAT?

I dial connections from windows and I get this IP: 10.216.130.4 Every port should be forwarded but NO. Its very much internal ip from hell!

[sallyspencer]

even if the services and speed suck?
and you only able to download a gig a month and pay R400 for uncapped
where as you could be using afrihost and only pay R29 a gig

I'm considering signing up but after looking at the speeds I'm having major doubts

will give them till next week to sort out all the problems......will see what happens

if that ever happens then I will cross that bridge when/if I come to it......

[AcidRaZor]

So you guys still behind a NAT? how r they able to forward you all the ports you need for torrents? guess that port forwarding list must be miles long :D

So is Wimax also behind NAT?

Wimax (and any other wireless ISP except for Telkom Wimax or maybe 3G/HSDPA) uses NAT so you'll always have a private IP address.

One of the long list of reasons why I stay away from wireless companies.

[MrG]

I think WA better do something quick or they are going to die a quick and painful death.

Yeah. I have not made a single purchase from them in over 3 months now. :(

[saffakanera]

Wimax (and any other wireless ISP except for Telkom Wimax or maybe 3G/HSDPA) uses NAT so you'll always have a private IP address.

One of the long list of reasons why I stay away from wireless companies.

Bit earlier you defended Wimax saying its superior to fixed line, wtf dude.

Contradict yourself much? :rolleyes:

Going to have to wait till about 11 for Acidrazor to get up out of bed for a response though, should be dynamite.

[D@rk_4ngel]

How many concurrent connections does screamer allow on the 5GB ADSL package and on the Uncapped packages(384k)? Im not getting any reply's from them.

[Gothan]

Only one connection on the uncapped, don't know about the 5gb package

[Terrabiticfossilite]

I dial connections from windows and I get this IP: 10.216.130.4 Every port should be forwarded but NO. Its very much internal ip from hell!

Please read the last page before wasting your time posting.

[Terrabiticfossilite]

Wimax (and any other wireless ISP except for Telkom Wimax or maybe 3G/HSDPA) uses NAT so you'll always have a private IP address.

One of the long list of reasons why I stay away from wireless companies.
Didn't someone say that Screamers Wimax doesn't use NAT? Didn't Screamer explain why they are temporarily NATing till next week because of others not yet accommodating their new setup?
*sigh*

[saa044]

Thats right except the monthly rental is not limited to 6 months???

Oh ok sorry, I see now on page 3 it says "this is subject to a minimum of 6 months" So then my question is will I be paying this R179 till I cancel my contract in about 3 years time for instance or will it eventually stop when I get to the R1761 mark?

[cda]

Didn't someone say that Screamers Wimax doesn't use NAT? Didn't Screamer explain why they are temporarily NATing till next week because of others not yet accommodating their new setup?
*sigh*

Yes, I believe they were "lying". I called them on it - this NAT is not "temporary" it's been there *all* the time even for guys who paid extra to get a public IP they still get outbound NAT.

You guys are fooling yourself with this "1 week" nonsense. They've got idiots signed up already. I'll bet any money they do absolutely nothing about it.

[Zyzzyva]

Yes, I believe they were "lying". I called them on it - this NAT is not "temporary" it's been there *all* the time even for guys who paid extra to get a public IP they still get outbound NAT.

You guys are fooling yourself with this "1 week" nonsense. They've got idiots signed up already. I'll bet any money they do absolutely nothing about it.

The only difference now is they have a much bigger market and potential market watching them. They have stepped out from being a niche wisp.

There is now nowhere to hide. If their network improves, word of mouth alone could push ten of thousands of clients their way.

[Hotmetal]

OK, can anyone give us some feedback on how good/bad the 384 ADSL part of Screamer is?
I'm thinking of cancelling my Cybersmart, (the deafening silence continues) to get Screamer. Thanks.

You don't wanna do that. I took the plunge and signed up
and at this point in time, i'm really disappointed. I understand
there is issues but not only are my downloads slow, the
connections time out continuously. I actually bought the
384 ADSL package because i only play games (World of Warcraft)
and its extremely and i say EXTREMELY unstable. Your latency
will jump from 350ms -> 1900ms.

I'm sitting tight for the next week or so in order to give them
a chance to resolve the issue. I'm not a heavy downloader so
i'm not too cared about throughput, i just need an uncapped
and unshaped account to play games through.

To sum it up, I don't recommend people switch over to them
at this point..

[schurtek]

Wimax (and any other wireless ISP except for Telkom Wimax or maybe 3G/HSDPA) uses NAT so you'll always have a private IP address.

One of the long list of reasons why I stay away from wireless companies.

3G and HSDPA uses NAT as well. I've never made a 3G connection with out NAT.

[schurtek]

So you guys still behind a NAT? how r they able to forward you all the ports you need for torrents? guess that port forwarding list must be miles long :D

So is Wimax also behind NAT?

you can torrent behind NAT with out port forwarding lists, as long as you use Masquerading...

[ijack]

I bought an account yesterday, and cannot believe the bad quality connection this is!! With a 10GB account and a 4Mb line I don't even receive 124kb/s. It might be R23 per GB, but what is the point if you cannot do anything with it!!!

[Gothan]

Yes, I believe they were "lying". I called them on it - this NAT is not "temporary" it's been there *all* the time even for guys who paid extra to get a public IP they still get outbound NAT.

You guys are fooling yourself with this "1 week" nonsense. They've got idiots signed up already. I'll bet any money they do absolutely nothing about it.

I don't appreciate it when you call me an idiot, friend

[cda]

I don't appreciate it when you call me an idiot, friend

1:
I'm not your friend, buddy
I'm not your buddy, guy
Well I'm not your guy, friend
goto 1

Anyway, I didn't mean that people who have signed up are all idiots, I mean they'll have 100 granies and housewives and what not who probably aren't affected as much by the bad performance, or will believe the excuses they get if they complain.

[cavedog]

I bought an account yesterday, and cannot believe the bad quality connection this is!! With a 10GB account and a 4Mb line I don't even receive 124kb/s. It might be R23 per GB, but what is the point if you cannot do anything with it!!!

Max download speed is 7kbs so you are lucky if you get more than that!!!! :mad:

[saffakanera]

Didn't someone say that Screamers Wimax doesn't use NAT? Didn't Screamer explain why they are temporarily NATing till next week because of others not yet accommodating their new setup?
*sigh*

Ya people should really try to read the thread instead of adding their little 2 cents k@k comments.

[schurtek]

okay... all those that have signed up, rate the service:

excellent, good, meh, bad, what service?

go!

[saa044]

okay... all those that have signed up, rate the service:

excellent, good, meh, bad, what service?

go!

Excellent over wireless 2.4

[Hotmetal]

okay... all those that have signed up, rate the service:

excellent, good, meh, bad, what service?

go!


Define service.. If you're talking about download speed,
its bad.. If you're talking about stability, its really bad..

[Gothan]

Can't say at the moment, they are working on an issue of mine that I have with accessing a pop server, so I'll wait for their feedback (sent them the tracerts last night upon request), and then I'll most probably start testing everything next week. So far my connection to astraweb is flying, but I've only tested that

[saa044]

Can't say at the moment, they are working on an issue of mine that I have with accessing a pop server, so I'll wait for their feedback (sent them the tracerts last night upon request), and then I'll most probably start testing everything next week. So far my connection to astraweb is flying, but I've only tested that

Wimax/wireless/adsl? 384 unlimited?

[Gothan]

384 unlimited

[saa044]

That on ADSL? Thinking of replacing Neotel with wimax from telkom and a 384 unlimited option from screemer.

EDIT

At my work

[straatkat]

I will rate them as very bad for both stability and speed.

I got initially very good speeds (first day) since them, only been getting worst and worst. I am happy to get 7 kbps from Astraweb and my web surfing experience have been horrible as well. This morning I had no connection to any websites or any connection to Astraweb. :confused:

I am sticking it out for now, I will be away for the weekend, will look at this again next week. I hope that they can get their problems sorted, whether self inflicted or otherwise.

In the mean time, my advice is to hold off for now. It pains me to say this, but I am going to be truthful...:(

[uchoose]

I think I will wait. Afrihost has been good, I took 2x 10GB accounts,
but 23GB can save me R60 or R120 if I change over both accounts. I will keep an eye on screamer and will change if it becomes as good as afrihost. I don't think I will go for the uncapped as I can't handle 384K. We should not class 384k as broadband but an improved dial up account, 512K not much better either.

[Cider]

There are still two weeks before the start of the new month ... I will be checking everything on here up until then and only then will decide if the 384 unlimited it going to be a decent purchase or if it going to cause mroe headaches for me.

[FragMePleaz]

i dont know wat they did but speed seams good know 40kb's with nntp surver :)
this i can definitely live with lol i hope it lasts

[FragMePleaz]

and i think the seconder dns changed

pirmery 196.15.204.82
secondery 41.154.7.245

[J0n0]

And i think the secondary dns changed

Primary 196.15.204.82
Secondary 41.154.7.245

Sorry, spelling gets on my nerves when done wrong. :o

[FragMePleaz]

OK THEN I WILL TYPE IN CAPS FOR YOU MY SPELLING IS *** YOU DONT NEED TO POINT IT OUT EVRY ONE CAN C IT ...

[FragMePleaz]

But that is not the reason this thread is open ...

[saa044]

lol

Well it looks like screamer uncapped together with wimax might replace my Neocrap here at work. Getting tired of having internet 3 out of 5 days a week.

[Gothan]

and i think the seconder dns changed

pirmery 196.15.204.82
secondery 41.154.7.245

Thanks, will play around with this tonight and see if it solves my pop issue

[straatkat]

i dont know wat they did but speed seams good know 40kb's with nntp surver :)
this i can definitely live with lol i hope it lasts

This is good news, will see tonight when I get home how the day was relating to what downloaded. Left the newsreader open this morning...

[SirFooK'nG]

@Howzit got any comment for the DNS's? Are they off the Wimax NAT now or still working through it?

[FragMePleaz]

i think still NAt

[J0n0]

OK THEN I WILL TYPE IN CAPS FOR YOU MY SPELLING IS *** YOU DONT NEED TO POINT IT OUT EVRY ONE CAN C IT ...

I didnt point out to show anyone anything. And by the looks of things, you can actually spell perfectly fine. Like the quote below. :)


But that is not the reason this thread is open ...

Yep, you're right...

Quick question to you then. Are you on the R 399 384k DSL package?
Are you playing any games online? :)

[FragMePleaz]

yes i am on the 384k and i will start testing the *** out my line as soon as i am complete my exams but at this stage no ... but i love my warcraft 3 will post pings after twomore knite have my last paper to write twomore

Ps. spelling not my strog soot:erm:

[Terrabiticfossilite]

yes i am on the 384k and i will start testing the *** out my line as soon as i am complete my exams but at this stage no ... but i love my warcraft 3 will post pings after twomore knite have my last paper to write twomore

Ps. spelling not my strog soot:erm:

R U tipn wif mobil? :p

[Blaze786]

yes i am on the 384k and i will start testing the *** out my line as soon as i am complete my exams but at this stage no ... but i love my warcraft 3 will post pings after twomore knite have my last paper to write twomore

Ps. spelling not my strog soot:erm:

I am sorry but your spelling is not only ghastly but I am fairly sure you are doing it on purpose... No I am not paranoid, its just THAT bad!

[FragMePleaz]

but the speed is down to about 15kbs

[Terrabiticfossilite]

I am sorry but your spelling is not only ghastly but I am fairly sure you are doing it on purpose... No I am not paranoid, its just THAT bad!

Yep, I agree, it's vrot, but I don't think he cares so its cool with me lol.

[Zyzzyva]

Its probably language related. My spelling sucks too when writing in anything other than ingrish.

[Blaze786]

Yep, I agree, it's vrot, but I don't think he cares so its cool with me lol.

Butchering a language to that extent should be a bannable offense... :p

[Terrabiticfossilite]

Its probably language related. My spelling sucks too when writing in anything other than ingrish.

Hey - its engrish watch your spelling :p
as in www.engrish.com

[Zyzzyva]

Hey - its engrish watch your spelling :p
as in www.engrish.com

hey, i can misspelling anywayz i likeit. :p

Mines alsa got website www.ingrish.com

[FragMePleaz]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day :)

[Zyzzyva]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day :)

+1

[Terrabiticfossilite]

hey, i can misspelling anywayz i likeit. :p

Mines alsa got website www.ingrish.com

Lol - yours is a parked domain, mine is real! :p

[FragMePleaz]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

5,5 kb :( at leasrt its not dead...

edit 15 kb lol

[Terrabiticfossilite]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

5,5 kb :( at leasrt its not dead...

edit 15 kb lol

Wot about www.speedtest.net to JHB and to New york?

[FragMePleaz]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

too soon

3,1 kb

lol leasrt its not dead...

[Pr⊕phet]

i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

too soon

3,1 kb

lol leasrt its not dead...
sould: should

leasrt: least ? at least ?


/spelling natzi powers activated

[J0n0]

yes i am on the 384k and i will start testing the *** out my line as soon as i am complete my exams but at this stage no ... but i love my warcraft 3 will post pings after twomore knite have my last paper to write twomore

Ps. spelling not my strog soot

Thanks, please do post your results. :) Im guessing you're either typing on mobile or you're on your pc and not allowed to be. :D


i think i sould put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day
too soon

3,1 kb

lol leasrt its not dead...

I just find it difficult to read something if it has very bad spelling errors. :o

ps. I think the speed issue would be normal still seeing they are still working on the NAT issue? And every tom dick and harry that just signed up is running the poor connection to the max. :p

[Shah33m]

Hey has anyone seen that rep??? his vanished all of a sudden..wonder why:D

[Zyzzyva]

How many concurrent connections do their accounts allow? ;)

A new page, i thought i'd keep the ball rolling :D

[Terrabiticfossilite]

1 on the uncapped at R400

[Madhawk]

@FragMePleaz, Download ieSpell - A Spell Checker for Internet Explorer:

http://www.iespell.com/download.php

That should help you out.

[FragMePleaz]

i think i should put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

na i think its all good ppl can read what i am trying to say and its not for work .. spelling

and for J0n0 it is a choce not to play games in exsam time and know one tells me wen i can play and wen not!

[Terrabiticfossilite]

Woo hooo - attitude! Me no play, me study! Wait till your father hears about that... oh wait... :p
Kudos btw...

[xrapidx]

I've just had a brain wave - a spelling corrector plugin for those who have issues with reading bad spelling :)

[FragMePleaz]

Woo hooo - attitude! Me no play, me study! Wait till your father hears about that... oh wait... :p
Kudos btw...


sould: should

leasrt: least ? at least ?


/spelling natzi powers activated

i think i should put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

let me re state that i dont want to throw my own hard urnde $$ in to the water for simply not suding...

...:confused:

[FragMePleaz]

I've just had a brain wave - a spelling corrector plugin for those who have issues with reading bad spelling :)

i think i should put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

+1

[Zyzzyva]

1 on the uncapped at R400

I was being facetious :)

[Terrabiticfossilite]

I've just had a brain wave - a spelling corrector plugin for those who have issues with reading bad spelling :)

Heh... There may already be a greasemonkey script for that lol

[Zyzzyva]

i think i should put a warning on top of my posts my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

+1

lol frag, you don't have to put that on every post. Just install firefox or opera. It'll completely fix your spelling.

[Pr⊕phet]

@FragMePleaz, Download ieSpell - A Spell Checker for Internet Explorer:

http://www.iespell.com/download.php

That should help you out.

and for firefox ?

[Pr⊕phet]

and i thought my engrish was bad. we now have a new level... level 0

[redheadfan]

and for firefox ?

Firefox and Google Chrome have spell checkers built in!

[Pr⊕phet]

Firefox and Google Chrome have spell checkers built in!

well the current FF i'm typing from it is not working for some strange reason but is ticked in options.

[swazz99jhb]

well the current FF i'm typing from it is not working for some strange reason but is ticked in options.

You need to d/l the languages pack.

[Pr⊕phet]

You need to d/l the languages pack.

cool.

[howzit]

Hi I don't really want to interrupt this fascinating thread but if you don't mind me butting in for a moment.....


@Howzit got any comment for the DNS's? Are they off the Wimax NAT now or still working through it?

Still NAT'ing for a day or two:(



Hey has anyone seen that rep??? his vanished all of a sudden..wonder why:D

Good guess....working hard

[saffakanera]

Hi I don't really want to interrupt this fascinating thread but if you don't mind me butting in for a moment.....



Still NAT'ing for a day or two:(




Good guess....working hard

/cheers for Screamer

[straatkat]

Speed is at below 10 kbps on adsl 384...

You are this close to loosing a customer...reminds me of my ISDN days...and the setup was cheaper back then than what this is...

[saffakanera]

Cmon man at least give them till next weekend, we big kids now.

[Zyzzyva]

Hi I don't really want to interrupt this fascinating thread but if you don't mind me butting in for a moment.....
Still NAT'ing for a day or two:(


Glad to hear you guys are working the problem. I think i can speak for everyone when i say we wish you the best. Getting things working is not only important for you as a business, but also to the bigger internet picture in this country.

Well done for trying to get prices as low as you are. :)

[Hotmetal]

Speed is at below 10 kbps on adsl 384...

You are this close to loosing a customer...reminds me of my ISDN days...and the setup was cheaper back then than what this is...

The speed doesn't bother me that much, its the fact that its
extremely unstable. Trying to download anything as a test will
never make it to the end, connection resets like mad..

Latency is extremely bad..

[Kraai2009]

Wow, I got nothing to complain about. Just run a speedtest on my 1 meg screamer line, while I am also same time busy to listen to online-radio that streams at 40 kbps, and here is my test result:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/627620803.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I guess, that my local screamer agent knows what he is doing!

[AcidRaZor]

Wow, I got nothing to complain about. Just run a speedtest on my 1 meg screamer line, while I am also same time busy to listen to online-radio that streams at 40 kbps, and here is my test result:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/627620803.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I guess, that my local screamer agent knows what he is doing!

True, but has nothing to do with their ADSL offering

[czc]

Whats their criteria for moving wireless into an area?

[Kraai2009]

Whats their criteria for moving wireless into an area?

Where I am, there were no line of site to any of their towers. They came and installed a small tower 1 km away that had line of site to me, and their other towers, just to service me. I go thru about 5 hops until I reach the ADSL lines, over a distance of 20 km. It works for me, 100%, and I am sure, if you pm Howzit your location, they could investigate the possibilities to set-up in your area as well.

[AcidRaZor]

Where I am, there were no line of site to any of their towers. They came and installed a small tower 1 km away that had line of site to me, and their other towers, just to service me. I go thru about 5 hops until I reach the ADSL lines, over a distance of 20 km. It works for me, 100%, and I am sure, if you pm Howzit your location, they could investigate the possibilities to set-up in your area as well.

Your wireless doesn't run through an ADSL network

And don't feel too special,they probably have a few clients in the area otherwise i know for a fact they wouldn't have bothered with just 1 client. Sorry to burst your bubble

[Terrabiticfossilite]

I think he meant fixed lines - no need to patronise the bloke... it's an easy mistake to make.

[Kraai2009]

Your wireless doesn't run through an ADSL network

And don't feel too special,they probably have a few clients in the area otherwise i know for a fact they wouldn't have bothered with just 1 client. Sorry to burst your bubble

They did have one client about 1 km away from me yes, where they erected my line of site tower, so it was easy to do. My wireless ends up in a telkom ADSL line, with IS bandwidth, as you can see from my speedtest. Here in the bundus we are on our own separate network, away from the official screamer one.

[AcidRaZor]

They did have one client about 1 km away from me yes, where they erected my line of site tower, so it was easy to do. My wireless ends up in a telkom ADSL line, with IS bandwidth, as you can see from my speedtest. Here in the bundus we are on our own separate network, away from the official screamer one.

Interesting to note that Screamer sells internet via (probably) an uncapped IS product. Thanks for the info.

[cda]

Interesting to note that Screamer sells internet via (probably) an uncapped IS product. Thanks for the info.

I thought IS do not allow that.

[SkeleMirth]

does anyone know if their data is shaped or unshaped?

[schurtek]

Interesting to note that Screamer sells internet via (probably) an uncapped IS product. Thanks for the info.

AFAIK they are using Seacom bw



does anyone know if their data is shaped or unshaped?

From reading the replies in this thread... I think their bw is very shaped... in fact I think it is so streamline you can't actually use it much. I was looking at entering into a very large business agreement with them, but clearly they are more rust than bucket. It seems every ISP who is choosing Seacom is having major speed and stability issues. I think Seacom is becoming a pink elephant.

[Pr⊕phet]

seems like this is the issue

total people signed up ######################################
available 'pipe' ######

so much for first come first serve we won't oversell. nice to have your clients do the beta testing for you right ;)

[Terrabiticfossilite]

It seems every ISP who is choosing Seacom is having major speed and stability issues. I think Seacom is becoming a pink elephant.
And I think you don't know as much as you think you do. Afrihost uses Seacom - anyone else care to comment on the Seacom bandwidth from Afrihost? At R29 per gig it's brilliant - and I've used Verizon, IS and SAIX over the past 6 years. I am using it on 4Mbps and getting full speed. The issues here have nothing to do with Seacom. What big business deal were you thinking of entering into? They are selling a 384kbps one connection only product.... it's not designed for big business...

[Terrabiticfossilite]

seems like this is the issue

total people signed up ######################################
available 'pipe' ######

so much for first come first serve we won't oversell. nice to have your clients do the beta testing for you right ;)

I think not - read the thread, there aren't too many on the system yet and as mentioned some pages back, the issue is that some peers are not yet peering properly and they are having to NAT the traffic so it will naturally be poor for P2P... and again, as mentioned earlier, they will be sorting out the nat issue by next week. I say this thread should be put on ice until then.

[Pr⊕phet]

I think not - read the thread, there aren't too many on the system yet and as mentioned some pages back, the issue is that some peers are not yet peering properly and they are having to NAT the traffic so it will naturally be poor for P2P... and again, as mentioned earlier, they will be sorting out the nat issue by next week. I say this thread should be put on ice until then.

and this could not have been picked up with proper testing beforehand ?



We're not stealing customers from our competitors, we're [-]upgrading them[/-] using them for testing

[straatkat]

Downloaded in 12 hours from news servers on their adsl 384 uncapped offer last night (From 6pm to 6am) 410 megs....:(


Speed this morning was in the 5 to 10 kbps range...dial up speed!

I am asking everyone who is defending them only this question: I can understand the NAT'ing is causing problems, but that to me is not explaining the lack of speed on their system...

I paid R180 for the month of November, will not recover my costs at this rate! Is that fair for me as the customer? Is it the service they advertised?

I am sticking this out, but browsing speed is so bad that I switch to my little Afrihost bandwidth that I have left to browse. NOT HAPPY!

Howzit, and Screamer, you have some explaining to do. If by Wednesday next week the situation is not improved to acceptable standards, I am voting with my feet.

[schurtek]

And I think you don't know as much as you think you do. Afrihost uses Seacom - anyone else care to comment on the Seacom bandwidth from Afrihost? At R29 per gig it's brilliant - and I've used Verizon, IS and SAIX over the past 6 years. I am using it on 4Mbps and getting full speed. The issues here have nothing to do with Seacom. What big business deal were you thinking of entering into? They are selling a 384kbps one connection only product.... it's not designed for big business...

When I spoke to afrihost, they said that it was SAT3 bandwidth, but they were subsidising it, in order to gain market share... plus I have been testing out the Afrihost bandwidth... 100% brilliant, but when you do trace routes it goes through melkbosstrand... and last I checked, Seacom didn't terminate there... so seems your arguement is invalid.

And, I run a VISP, and am looking for a new upstream provider, hence that is BIG business deal as I have a fair sized database to move over to them... their uncapped solutions I want to offer to sme clients, but since you say that the only connection they offer is 384K I will most definately stay far away from them.

It seems many of you are only interested in p2p traffic. Very few of my clients use p2p. I only use it to download the latest Ubuntu files every six months. I am interested in normal internet access... http, email, vpn, ssh, and all the other normal uses that we use in the business environment, and not for uses that rape and steel from the music/film/software industry.

Instead of wasting bandwidth to download the latest movie and end up watching crap quality on my computer screen, I go out and spend some real money on a real DVD or BluRay. Maybe that doesn't make sense, but I believe in supporting the industry that makes the movies. And yes, I do go to the cinema as often as possible, and I buy me an extra large slush puppy (Strawberry) and my wife always has a small slush puppy and popcorn. I am also known to buy a box of over priced smarties as well...

Lastly, how the hell do you get natting on the DSL cloud? Seriesly, I want to know how they did that?

[AcidRaZor]

AFAIK they are using Seacom bw


I don't think they are *yet*... and if they are, it's brilliant compared to the "seacom" bandwidth screamer has.

I won't repeat what everyone said here re: speed and where it routes via etc but it's same here, and that's why I canceled. I was never going to get "bang for my buck" (as one of the support agents said) and figured I'd spend that amount of money increasing my cap with Afrihost for now than to chase a pink elephant as you mentioned.

[schurtek]

I don't think they are *yet*... and if they are, it's brilliant compared to the "seacom" bandwidth screamer has.

lol... you compared screamer bw with screamer bw.

[J0n0]

So....basically people are complaining that they can't pirate stuff fast enough? :p

[Hotmetal]

does anyone know if their data is shaped or unshaped?

Their uncapped adsl is suppose to be unshaped. (That is from
a reply i got from their sales dept)

[daffy]

It seems every ISP who is choosing Seacom is having major speed and stability issues. I think Seacom is becoming a pink elephant.

Have you asked TENET what they think of Seacom?
Have you got any actual evidence that these problems are Seacom related, and have nothing to do with anything else in the network that Screamer controls?

Unfortunately, most of the people in this thread will believe everything they read, so lets try not to feed them bull*****?

[straatkat]

So....basically people are complaining that they can't pirate stuff fast enough? :p

Well you cant do much of anything on this service, webpages take forever to load...not even to mention the fact that you can't download anything, legal or otherwise...

[daffy]

Lastly, how the hell do you get natting on the DSL cloud? Seriesly, I want to know how they did that?

Quite easy actually. If you'd like to know more, I think my hourly consultation rates are quite reasonable.

[schurtek]

Have you asked TENET what they think of Seacom?
Have you got any actual evidence that these problems are Seacom related, and have nothing to do with anything else in the network that Screamer controls?

Unfortunately, most of the people in this thread will believe everything they read, so lets try not to feed them bull*****?

My information is going on various previous threads on this site, which I do consider to be of value. Another ISP in capetown tried to use Seacom and failed. Screamer are using Seacom and seem to be failing... since both companies are not connected, my first guess would be to think that the common factor, being Seacom is the problem. I also do understand that Seacom is very new and understand that they will have teething problems. Bottom line is, as much as I want to use Seacom, until I see positve results, I won't go to the expense of using it.

Even MTN-NS advised me to rather connect a project to SAT3 and not to Seacom. I wonder why? Must just be bull*****?

[J0n0]

Well you cant do much of anything on this service, webpages take forever to load...not even to mention the fact that you can't download anything, legal or otherwise...

*sigh* I sincerely hope they improve then. :)

[Tinuva]

I have seen a live Download on the Tenet network over Seacom, and all I can say is...it was fast enough to show that that cable has absolutely no problems in that regard, but alas Tenet has probably one of the coolest networks in the country as well.

Now as for Screamer, what happen is you have more users than actual bandwidth, in which case you call it a contention ratio of whatever it is. Now the idea with contention ratios is, you expect people to not all use their bandwidth at the same time and thus you are able to sell it like that. Problem is, we now have a bunch of users on the Screamer network who all want to use their bandwidth all the time non-stop at full speed. What you end up with is a situation where no one can get their full line speed and thus the network is permanently congested.

There are 2 maybe more ways out of this.

1. Buy more bandwidth for the network. Easiest, most expensive and generally you won't have enough money to make a profit since this will only work until you match the total bandwidth of all your users, and right now people expect 1:1 contention ratios.

2. Add shaping and limiting, less expense but also less effective and users will complain.

I think Screamer's problem is they have all the clients a ISP generally speaking don't want and none of those they do want.

ISPs want clients that don't abuse the network 24/7 at 99% line usage, but they accept them when there are like 10% of them in their whole user base, which means the other 90% clients subsidize them.

My conclusion is, until the ratios of the userbase on the Screamer network gets closer to that, they will keep on having speed problems.

Remember they are not the first ones trying it. First in the country was UUnet (well back then that was the company name, then Verizon now MTNBusiness) and they had similar problems, alas they scrapped the Uncapped/Unshaped product and moved towards a capped unshaped product which generally runs smooth nowadays.

I suspect caps won't go away for a long time to come in this country, instead caps will grow bigger as the price stays the same, until the country has enough internet users that do not constantly abuse the internet, to move over to uncapped. Perhaps the uncapped part won't happen in our day and age for South Africa but things improve and situations of a country change, maybe not always at the pace the client or the ISP would want but that is life.

ps. I do not work for Screamer.

[Tjoker]

You make very good points, what about digiChilli? Are they going to experience the same fate as screamer?

[Roman4604]

Nicely put Tinuva, if I may summarise it a bit more ...

There is only so much infrastructure capacity (IPC, loc & intl access) one can currently buy per user for ~R400, less VAT, less margin, less bus overheads.

If you choose to provide it uncapped at this pricepoint, then you are in essence asking your customers to trade quality (speed/responsiveness) for quantity (or the promise thereof). Its not feasible to have both at current wholesale pricing.

[bboy]

pffft... this screamer network isnt new, its the same old GWI network that had EXCATLY the same problems from years ago, they ditched that bad name and became screamer and still offered the same crap network and worse support, now obviously recently they have worked out how to tack on a front end adsl package to the same crappy network.

Teething problems? Well for years they havent sorted it out so dont excpect a solution soon.

You don't get an ADSL package when you buy this product, you just get access to their silly private network that occasionaly has internet access on it.

[Terrabiticfossilite]

My information is going on various previous threads on this site, which I do consider to be of value. Another ISP in capetown tried to use Seacom and failed. Screamer are using Seacom and seem to be failing... since both companies are not connected, my first guess would be to think that the common factor, being Seacom is the problem. I also do understand that Seacom is very new and understand that they will have teething problems. Bottom line is, as much as I want to use Seacom, until I see positve results, I won't go to the expense of using it.

Even MTN-NS advised me to rather connect a project to SAT3 and not to Seacom. I wonder why? Must just be bull*****?

Hows your knowlege on MTN business solutions? :D

[straatkat]

Nicely put Tinuva, if I may summarise it a bit more ...

There is only so much infrastructure capacity (IPC, loc & intl access) one can currently buy per user for ~R400, less VAT, less margin, less bus overheads.

If you choose to provide it uncapped at this pricepoint, then you are in essence asking your customers to trade quality (speed/responsiveness) for quantity (or the promise thereof). Its not feasible to have both at current wholesale pricing.

That is all fine, but that is not what they promoted. If all of this is true, then all uncapped accounts should be doomed, and all will crawl, yet this is not true. Did they priced it too aggressive? If that is true, Digichilli should just give up before they start, because they will then be slaughtered...

[nicki]

Even MTN-NS advised me to rather connect a project to SAT3 and not to Seacom. I wonder why? Must just be bull*****?



It's because MTN works together with Telkom on WACS, and most probably has shares in SAT3 and not Seacom???

[Roman4604]

then all uncapped accounts should be doomed, and all will crawl, yet this is not true.Sure, but the ones that dont 'crawl' are not sold for ~R400 allowing the provider allocate more capacity per user due to higher income.

[redheadfan]

right now people expect 1:1 contention ratios.

Very True.

[cda]

My information is going on various previous threads on this site, which I do consider to be of value.

Ur doin it wrong

[cda]

I think Screamer's problem is they have all the clients a ISP generally speaking don't want and none of those they do want.


Well the problem is those customers don't exist in the DSL spectrum.

Because of Telkom's awesome ability to take between 5 days and 5 years to install a line, people who aren't power users have given up and just gone with 3G. Its cheap enough for their needs, it's instant and you can move it anywhere with some degree of success.

When you offer uncapped ADSL, you're essentially advertising to "abusive" users - anyone else will see value in the fact that they can pay substantially less money by paying for what they do use.

So at the end of the day, a flat rate service needs to be quite a bit more expensive but it's also fairly obvious that the median user will be substantially more clued up than the average market.

With that in mind, one has to wonder how an ISP could miss such an obvious trend in a market that has insanely high demand. Either their management previously ran a bakery or steakhouse or something, or they thought they could get away with a slight of hand. Either way, Screamer makes money on sign-ups for a product that doesn't work. It doesn't matter if half the user base leaves immediately.

Then again, you have to look at the tree the apple falls from.

Screamer has operated (in agreement) with Sentech spectrum.

I seem to remember another company that launched a cheap internet product with insufficient testing, had their network overload and lost thousands of customers eventually leading to the product being mothballed.

I think that company was Sentech. :rolleyes:



Teething problems? Well for years they havent sorted it out so dont excpect a solution soon.



Problem is people are so desperate for bandwidth they are willing to cover their ears and go "LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU".

I'm willing to place a large bet on the performance and NAT issues persisting way beyond the promise of next week, and the various representatives fading into obscurity.

Do not underestimate how little an ISP cares about their customers. I honestly get better service from my bank and my medical aid than I have from any ISP, and those are far less competitive industries. ISP's seem to operate either in a higher tier (like Internet Solutions who don't deal at all with home end users), or they operate under some delusion that their customer base are all idiots and they can feed them whatever nonsense they like.

[saffakanera]

Well the problem is those customers don't exist in the DSL spectrum.

Because of Telkom's awesome ability to take between 5 days and 5 years to install a line, people who aren't power users have given up and just gone with 3G. Its cheap enough for their needs, it's instant and you can move it anywhere with some degree of success.

When you offer uncapped ADSL, you're essentially advertising to "abusive" users - anyone else will see value in the fact that they can pay substantially less money by paying for what they do use.

So at the end of the day, a flat rate service needs to be quite a bit more expensive but it's also fairly obvious that the median user will be substantially more clued up than the average market.

With that in mind, one has to wonder how an ISP could miss such an obvious trend in a market that has insanely high demand. Either their management previously ran a bakery or steakhouse or something, or they thought they could get away with a slight of hand. Either way, Screamer makes money on sign-ups for a product that doesn't work. It doesn't matter if half the user base leaves immediately.

Then again, you have to look at the tree the apple falls from.

Screamer has operated (in agreement) with Sentech spectrum.

I seem to remember another company that launched a cheap internet product with insufficient testing, had their network overload and lost thousands of customers eventually leading to the product being mothballed.

I think that company was Sentech. :rolleyes:



Problem is people are so desperate for bandwidth they are willing to cover their ears and go "LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU".

I'm willing to place a large bet on the performance and NAT issues persisting way beyond the promise of next week, and the various representatives fading into obscurity.

Do not underestimate how little an ISP cares about their customers. I honestly get better service from my bank and my medical aid than I have from any ISP, and those are far less competitive industries. ISP's seem to operate either in a higher tier (like Internet Solutions who don't deal at all with home end users), or they operate under some delusion that their customer base are all idiots and they can feed them whatever nonsense they like.


OK, if the issues are sorted, you have to announce on the forum that you are a complete Moron who needs to do his job/get a job instead of posting drivel about ISP's.

[AntiThesis]

^^ and what does he get if he's right?

Let's get some deliverables and absolutes in this here wager.

[cda]

you are a complete Moron who needs to do his job/get a job instead of posting drivel about ISP's.

I'm retired.

[saffakanera]

^^ and what does he get if he's right?

Let's get some deliverables and absolutes in this here wager.

lol, Howzit must wear a Ballerina outfit and post it on Youtube.

What say you Howzit? :D

[AntiThesis]

That's both gloves - and CDA would have to raise the stakes a little. I'd say:

1) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be a BS churner and things haven't improved noticibly (as ratified by at least 5 users on MyBB) by 27/11/2009, Howzit (or another Screamer Rep) must post a YouTube video apologizing while wearing a Tutu.

2) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be peddling purest truth and things improve by the abovementioned date, CDA must follow suit with an embarassing tutu'd Youtube.

I think that makes the stakes pretty even - a thread saying "I'm a moron" from either is just e-embarrasment and thus has no real sting.

[Zyzzyva]

That's both gloves - and CDA would have to raise the stakes a little. I'd say:

1) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be a BS churner and things haven't improved noticibly (as ratified by at least 5 users on MyBB) by 27/11/2009, Howzit (or another Screamer Rep) must post a YouTube video apologizing while wearing a Tutu.

2) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be peddling purest truth and things improve by the abovementioned date, CDA must follow suit with an embarassing tutu'd Youtube.

I think that makes the stakes pretty even - a thread saying "I'm a moron" from either is just e-embarrasment and thus has no real sting.

Howzit has an inside track on how itll turn out though. So hardly a fair bet.

[AntiThesis]

Howzit has an inside track on how itll turn out though. So hardly a fair bet.

Not really - all we're asking these two internet citizens to do is put their tutus where their mouths are. Howzit may have an inside track on how it'll turn out but that doesn't neccesarily mean it'll be good. So if there is enough belief, a tutu should be the least of his worries.

Same goes for cda. He's been much maligned all over these forums and whether rightly or wrongly, he needs vindication and should also be fine with a tutu vid. Otherwise there's just steam and no pressure and he can be safely ignored.

Win-win I think. Either way we get to see some people in tutus.

[howzit]

That's both gloves - and CDA would have to raise the stakes a little. I'd say:

1) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be a BS churner and things haven't improved noticibly (as ratified by at least 5 users on MyBB) by 27/11/2009, Howzit (or another Screamer Rep) must post a YouTube video apologizing while wearing a Tutu.

2) If the Screamer PR machine turns out to be peddling purest truth and things improve by the abovementioned date, CDA must follow suit with an embarassing tutu'd Youtube.

I think that makes the stakes pretty even - a thread saying "I'm a moron" from either is just e-embarrasment and thus has no real sting.

I'm up for it and I hope for your sakes that the network has improved:D

[Zyzzyva]

I'm up for it and I hope for your sakes that the network has improved:D

Impressive and unexpected :)

[AntiThesis]

I'm up for it and I hope for your sakes that the network has improved:D

Excellent. Duly noted.

Now we just need a buy-in from cda on his part as well. I don't know cda but I kinda hope he has prettier legs than yours howzit.

[Zyzzyva]

Excellent. Duly noted.

Now we just need a buy-in from cda on his part as well. I don't know cda but I kinda hope he has prettier legs than yours howzit.

nice sig

[saffakanera]

OK so once we get word from cda, its official :)

S*$t just got real..

[AntiThesis]

OK so once we get word from cda, its official :)

S*$t just got real..

As real as they get on the internet certainly ;)

[saffakanera]

As real as they get on the internet certainly ;)

+1 for that beautiful sig :D

[howzit]

nice sig

Now was that sig really necessary?? Can't we please keep this just between us?

[saffakanera]

Now was that sig really necessary?? Can't we please keep this just between us?

Hells no dude :D

This is what real good PR is all about man :)

Mybb is watching! Good luck to both of you!

[AntiThesis]

Yeah you can't buy PR like this - just imagine :D I'm sure MyBB will give you a cover shot with this on :P So would other news sources :D

[saffakanera]

Well, I mean that is IF Screamer doesn't step up! Jury is still out on that one! :)

[Zyzzyva]

Now was that sig really necessary?? Can't we please keep this just between us?

You will have to speak to antithesis. But don't worry, unless cda accepts the offer you come out tops whatever happens. It certainly made me feel better about screamers intentions. :)

[AntiThesis]

Indeedy - it really does depend on the outcome doesn't it? Either way, someone is going to be a sad panda.

[saffakanera]

Very very sad panda indeed! Ok so if cda accepts I hope we can get the Staff Writer to pull up a nice Friday article for us, should make for some very entertaining ISP news!

[AntiThesis]

Very very sad panda indeed! Ok so if cda accepts I hope we can get the Staff Writer to pull up a nice Friday article for us, should make for some very entertaining ISP news!

Where is our acronymical friend anyway? Anyone got a line to him so we can get this puppy on the road and deep-fried?

[joveritas]

Great news right? WRONG! I recently joined Screamer - got a 384 unlimited account.Was pleased to see how quick everything went - got my username and password the day after applying.But when I connnected I was unpleasantly suprised to see how terribly slow the connection is.Download speed less than 10kb/s and my online gaming ping is atrocius.

I've made numerous complaints,sent emails,complained on hellopeter and even though they replied on hellopeter - absolutely nothing has changed and the tech department aren't responding to my email or calling me back.So what now? R399 down the drain is what I'm thinking except if by some miracle they resolve this problem.I'm giving it another month - if nothing improves I'm cancelling it.

[AntiThesis]

<snip> <connectivity sadness> </snip>

Well that's what we're trying to get through here - Screamer have said that things will be fixed at the end of the week and they've stepped up to the Tutu Challenge. Hang in there goodbuddy.

You can always talk to CambodiaDave about a test account for some quick fixeration.

[joveritas]

I'm tempted to wait and see before I jump on-board with Screamer :) Love the name :p

Very good idea - I was too impulsive and now I prob have the slowest connection ever - worse than dial-up

[joveritas]

Well that's what we're trying to get through here - Screamer have said that things will be fixed at the end of the week and they've stepped up to the Tutu Challenge. Hang in there goodbuddy.

You can always talk to CambodiaDave about a test account for some quick fixeration.

I've also heard promises of change :/ well if it does change I'll be a happy Screamer.If only Axxess had an uncapped acc at R399 p/m :P I love their service

[loopsterman]

Great news right? WRONG! I recently joined Screamer - got a 384 unlimited account.Was pleased to see how quick everything went - got my username and password the day after applying.But when I connnected I was unpleasantly suprised to see how terribly slow the connection is.Download speed less than 10kb/s and my online gaming ping is atrocius.

I've made numerous complaints,sent emails,complained on hellopeter and even though they replied on hellopeter - absolutely nothing has changed and the tech department aren't responding to my email or calling me back.So what now? R399 down the drain is what I'm thinking except if by some miracle they resolve this problem.I'm giving it another month - if nothing improves I'm cancelling it.

Hmmm, this is quite worrying... im thinking of signing up with them but this kinds of changes it a little, has anyone got anything good to say about screamer yet? I was wondering what the ping times would be to servers in germany, the server up there is excellent and anyone in europe gets great times. What would i expect connecting from sa?
cheers

[loopsterman]

Edit: Just wondering if the rep from screamers might know about the ping times?

[AntiThesis]

I would honestly say give some folks a chance to test and let the promised week flow past before signing up. You've waited this long for good broadband - another week or two won't kill you.

[loopsterman]

I would honestly say give some folks a chance to test and let the promised week flow past before signing up. You've waited this long for good broadband - another week or two won't kill you.

Actually i was living abroad for 6years and i had uncapped from day 1 and coming back to paying PER GIG is wow. I miss the simple things like listening to music online from the best radio stations and things like that... anyone, iv been back for nearly 2 years and got used to not having proper internet but now the prices are dropping and all IT GETS ME EXCITED! :) Il just wait a little more, im sure there are going to be some amazing christmas specials coming out

Edit, im also from el :)

[AntiThesis]

Werl then practice delayed gratification ;)

I think there may be some cool showings sometimes soon. Just dunno when and I don't know if anyone is going to take a risk just yet.

[FragMePleaz]

warning my spelling *** if you got a problem go F/* yourself and have a nice day

tuch wood i am geting 31 -41 kb nntp downlouds

[joveritas]

What the hell - with screamer 384 uncapped???

[sallyspencer]

OOOOOh my 384 is actually working......downloads are actually finishing and in good time.....network has been stable so far this evening.....:D:D:D

[RoMark]

Are things turning for the better at last?

[Super78]

OOOOOh my 384 is actually working......downloads are actually finishing and in good time.....network has been stable so far this evening.....:D:D:D

are speeds in the 35kb range?
you downloading using p2p?

[joveritas]

I'd also like to know cause I'm still below 10kb/s

[joveritas]

Oh nvm the latency - dont have a connection at all now with Screamer- using my prepaid Axxess account now :/

[Super78]

Oh nvm the latency - dont have a connection at all now with Screamer- using my prepaid Axxess account now :/

you using axxess and your speeds are 10Kb?:eek:

[loopsterman]

Still wonderin what the ping times to germany with screamers 384 would be like while playing fps :)

[saffakanera]

OMG :O

Woke up at 5 to get on Screamer while all the other people were off the pipe!

Look at the speeds I got om my 384!


http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/13494/size/big/cat//ppuser/18868




*JK this was a screenshot from work :P

[saffakanera]

Still wonderin what the ping times to germany with screamers 384 would be like while playing fps :)

Dont think it will be fantastic mate, remember we still have distance issues here in SA, and a lot of our infrastructure is quite old!

[MrG]

OMG :O

Woke up at 5 to get on Screamer while all the other people were off the pipe!

Look at the speeds I got om my 384!


http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/13494/size/big/cat//ppuser/18868




*JK this was a screenshot from work :P

damn. fell for it for a second.

[joveritas]

you using axxess and your speeds are 10Kb?:eek:

No man - Screamer gives me below 10kb/s - Axxess is awesome!! Never have problems with them

[joveritas]

Ok so when is Screamer supposedly fixing the problem?Isn't it the end of the week already?Download speeds of 2kb/s - what the f

[schurtek]

No man - Screamer gives me below 10kb/s - Axxess is awesome!! Never have problems with them

Axxess is only awesome if you NOT a reseller... we resell some of the bandwidth to some of our clients, and let me say, tech support to resellers DOES NOT EXIST!!!

[Super78]

Ok so when is Screamer supposedly fixing the problem?Isn't it the end of the week already?Download speeds of 2kb/s - what the f

I think it's gonna be sorted early next week hey

[bmchunu]

So we wait and see!

I hope they are not just upgrading or something to cater for the existing clients ... because when a whole bunch more sign up we'll be back at square one

[MyWorld]

If they could just get that 1mbps + price to drop a bit...

[joveritas]

I think it's gonna be sorted early next week hey
How do you know? Well I can wait until next week - if everything's sorted then I'll be happy :D

[AntiThesis]

As far as I know joveriatas the deadline is Friday the 27th :)

[catruter]

it would be great if screamer was working properly

[AntiThesis]

Give it some time catruter - they've undertaken to fix stuff by end of next week so let's see how they go.

Don't sign up until/if you're happy.

[RoMark]

As far as I know joveriatas the deadline is Friday the 27th :)
Have I a missed a post? I thought they said by this weekend all should be sorted?