Uncapped ADSL at R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB

[rpm]

Uncapped ADSL for R 399 per month; capped at R 23 per GB (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/10447.html)

Screamer Telecoms enters ADSL market with aggressively priced ADSL services using SEACOM bandwidth

[Zyzzyva]

Some of the best news this decade.

[rurapente]

i like this. for one simple reason. its re-selling what an ISP should be re-selling. Their bandwidth.

They dont buy GB's so why should we be conned into buying GBs? they buy bandwidth and we should be allow to buy it too. So, well done Screamer, even if the contention ratio may be high, its still a proper way to sell internet, not by ripping people off claiming mb's and gb's cost money. :)

[kilos]

Wow and here start the pricewar even more

http://screamer.co.za/adsl_unlimited.php


Unlimited 384kbps R399/month
Unlimited 512kbps for R799/month
Unlimited 1Mbps for R1 499/month
Unlimited 4Mbps for R2 499 per month.

I am sure it will be better than their WiMax & WiSP service - judging by the various threads

[Techrat]

DigiChilli may be beaten before they even took off...

[Kaufies]

I "blame" Afrihost for this :D

Sorry, Digichilli, I'm getting Screamer!

[burn]

Is this for real? Digichilli blew me away and this now just made me cream myself :rolleyes:

[PseudZ]

Things are shaping up ;)

[Swift-wp]

I see a price war brewing:)

[Maddmatt]

So, if we get it on ADSL we still have the line rental to pay. But what if we get it on WiMax? No extra charges then?

[krycor]

wow

[sallyspencer]

I "blame" Afrihost for this :D

Sorry, Digichilli, I'm getting Screamer!


me too.......:D:D:D

P.S....are they part of Telkom.....???

[ldmelsa]

:D:D:D
Whoo-hoo!!!
:D:D:D

[kilos]

me too.......:D:D:D

P.S....are they part of Telkom.....???
Private company Sally

Some real interesting news as the pricewar for Unlimited bandwidth is in full swing this month,
finally South Africans will get to cheaper bandwidth

PRICEWAR
1st Afrihost.com (http://afrihost.com/adsl-broadband-internet.php) offering bandwidth for R29/Gb
2nd DigiChilli.com (http://digichilli.com/) offering Unlimited bandwidth
3rd Screamer Telecoms (http://screamer.co.za/adsl_unlimited.php) offering Unlimited bandwidth and R23/Gb

Digichilli

256Kbps R500/month
512 Kbps R1000/month
1Mbps R3000/month

Screamer Telecoms (BEST DEAL so far)

384kbps R399/month
512kbps R799/month
1Mbps R1499/month
4Mbps R2499 per month.

Contention Ratios ? Support & Billing Dept ?

[burn]

Anyone filled in the application form? Get worried when details like ID are asked for :p

[bwana]

Anyone filled in the application form? Get worried when details like ID are asked for :pRICA? Might have to get used to it.

[sallyspencer]

Private company Sally

Some real interesting news as the pricewar for Unlimited bandwidth is in full swing this month,
finally South Africans will get to cheaper bandwidth

1st it was Afrihost.com (http://afrihost.com/adsl-broadband-internet.php) offering bandwidth for R29/Gb
2nd DigiChilli.com (http://digichilli.com/) offering Unlimited bandwidth
3rd Screamer Telecoms (http://screamer.co.za/adsl_unlimited.php) offering Unlimited bandwidth and R23/Gb

Digichilli


Screamer Telecoms (BEST DEAL so far)

Thanks for that ''kilo's''........I eventually found out through Google.....:D:D:D

[Kaufies]

I see a price war brewing:)

+1.

I wonder how low they can go!:D

[burn]

I'm tempted to wait and see before I jump on-board with Screamer :) Love the name :p

[purejimcn]

this is awesome!!! but does any1 know if we can decide to get wimax even if we are in an area with adsl coverage? i.e. cape town...

[burn]

this is awesome!!! but does any1 know if we can decide to get wimax even if we are in an area with adsl coverage? i.e. cape town...

they have a coverage tab - doesn't look like they provide wimax in the Western Cape

http://www.screamer.co.za/coverage.php

[ldmelsa]

Screamer is not only R100 cheaper that Digichilli, but faster too. Remember, Digichilli's one is 256k.

I love competition! :D

[purejimcn]

they have a coverage tab - doesn't look like they provide wimax in the Western Cape

http://www.screamer.co.za/coverage.php


that sucks... but thanks for the info:o

[ldmelsa]

Anyone filled in the application form? Get worried when details like ID are asked for :p

I'll post them my ID book, via the post office, for this price! :D

[Sapper123]

It says on its website that they offer wireless dsl but then why do they need a fixed line or am I confused? Oh and is the price of R399 of 384kb/s with or without dsl line costs?

[burn]

Screamer is not only R100 cheaper that Digichilli, but faster too. Remember, Digichilli's one is 256k.

I love competition! :D

+1

[burn]

It says on its website that they offer wireless dsl but then why do they need a fixed line or am I confused? Oh and is the price of R399 of 384kb/s with or without dsl line costs?

That price without line rental

[Sapper123]

So then if you have a line with Telkom how do you get Seacom bandwidth? I'm very confused about that...

[burn]

So then if you have a line with Telkom how do you get Seacom bandwidth? I'm very confused about that...

You rent the ADSL line from Telkom. You then use this line to connect to Screamer Telecoms, who get their bandwidth from SEACOM and pass it on to you. You pay Telkom for the line and Screamer for the internet bandwidth.

Clear it up?

[Patty]

Wimax equipment is a bit expensive from Screamer. Once off rental fee of R2,999. If you cancel the contract you give the equipment back!! :eek:

[Sapper123]

Thanks that did clear it up :) So now do you think all other service providers with step up and reduce prices too? I hope so, and soon!

[Patty]

I think WA better do something quick or they are going to die a quick and painful death.

[burn]

Thanks that did clear it up :) So now do you think all other service providers with step up and reduce prices too? I hope so, and soon!

Hopefully they will, they have ;) Since Afrihosts promotion there has been digichilli and now this. There is change happening. Just a matter of time. I'm guessing many of the bigger companies will have to re-strategies their pricing structue which takes time and some planning.

But I do wonder how people like MWeb are still in business. They must look stupid with their current prices.

[Keeper]

the 384 kbps wimax at R400 looks good to me - so i need a R3000 modem, but if i cancel after 1 month it's bye bye R3000 modem?

[burn]

Is this product live? If I sign up and set up the debit order will I get a working account? And will I have to pay the full amount for this month?

Just some questions that I hope can be answered some time in this thread :)

[Lydon]

*dies and signs up*

[Keeper]

lol....signature changed, AGAIN

Now all those guys that talked crap about Afihost - Do you see the bigger picture now??

[ponder]

Would love to see uncapped before X-mas for R250 :D

At the current rate it might even be possible.

[Keeper]

This just in!
OpenWeb has just launched 512kbs Uncapped for R260 :eek:

Edit:
Nexus ISP now charges R150 all inclusive 1024kbs

Edit2:
Cybersmart 4MB Uncapped now @ R99 !

stuff this i'm going to bed - bother me tomorrow with your low low prices, ISPs! :D

[kgatlem]

Wow with this deals I gotta w8 for a month before deciding...! I guess there's still more competition coming..... oooohlala!

[SlyFly]

Nice anyone know if these accounts can be used with News Servers? Local ones, but ofcourse with uncapped you could just use an international one ;)

[Kaufies]

I think WA better do something quick or they are going to die a quick and painful death.

Yes!! They just spent a lot on their new network!! They have to find a way to bring in new customers!!

[Techrat]

They will pretty much certainly not work with local Usenet, but I would like to be wrong.

[nihilist]

fsckit, would you companies stop all this drama, I'm tired of bouncing ADSL accounts! :mad:





:D:D:D:D

[cda]

"substantial technical, administration and support infrastructure "

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

As a Screamer Telecoms customer, I can tell you that ZERO of that is true. Their technical support has been atrociously bad for me.

[fragtion]

\o/
Great news! The last two months or so have been packed with some very nice announcements, and lots of them have come to fruit already. Now we await 8Mbps ADSL =)
Remember, they said it would take time for SEACOM's bandwidth to tricke down the line and reach the consumer, and now it's happening. anything above R1000 is still TOO MUCH for uncapped, even on 4Mbps, but this sure is 1 small step for man, 1 giant leap for mankind, in the SA bandwidth galaxy =)

[RichTrend]

You guys really need to put more information on your about us page on your website.

I just spent like an hour checking for info / news / posts about your company on google.

If you want customers, at least provide some information that can help offer them piece of mind that they are not putting their money into the lotto hoping to get something back for it

[nickielb]

So if I signed a contract with telkom for do broadband 1 option does this mean the contract is with telkom for the line or isp? :confused: I think its the isp since I managed to cancel the isp for my mums place after she didnt use it.

I'm tired of telkoms prices!:mad:

[mrudling]

Pity they dont allow for 2 connecions... That will keep Digichilli in the game here. There is most certainly a market for line speed uncapped accounts, as can clearly be seen by the ring-sting Digichili have started.

Frozen toilet paper for ISP's who will not come to the party!

Provided Digichilli's "Burst Speeds" give me 384kbs most of the time, they will get my vote for now.

Things are STARTING to look good, still far from ideal.

[RichTrend]

Keeper ill take the 4mb option. please provide me with the link, where do I sign up?:D



This just in!
OpenWeb has just launched 512kbs Uncapped for R260 :eek:

Edit:
Nexus ISP now charges R150 all inclusive 1024kbs

Edit2:
Cybersmart 4MB Uncapped now @ R99 !

stuff this i'm going to bed - bother me tomorrow with your low low prices, ISPs! :D

[JustAsk]

This is the right start...they don't invent SA-only broadband inventions.

[Ice385]

:D

awesome news! Viva competition!

[Kuga]

So if I signed a contract with telkom for do broadband 1 option does this mean the contract is with telkom for the line or isp? :confused: I think its the isp since I managed to cancel the isp for my mums place after she didnt use it.

I'm tired of telkoms prices!:mad:


The Do Broadband packages are your line rental and your bandwidth. If you want to change your ISP, you gotta phone Telkom and tell them you're going to a cheaper alternative for your bandwidth. You will still however, have to pay them for the line rental, but can then get your bandwidth from an ISP of your choice..

And +1 for competition,

"Hell, it's a bout time" - SC2 Cinematic Trailer

[mrudling]

If we got 4 pages going already, I suspect another 30 coming along :0

I wonder how much bandwith/money South African's have spent searching for cheaper bandwith?

[Kaufies]

If we got 4 pages going already, I suspect another 30 coming along :0

I wonder how much bandwith/money South African's have spent searching for cheaper bandwith?

One of the few great things about local only: MyBB!

But it is very ironic:D

[J25]

What is the procedure for transfering my adsl line from cybersmart to telkom? And how much down-time can I expect?

[RSkeens]

What is the procedure for transfering my adsl line from cybersmart to telkom? And how much down-time can I expect?

I am not sure of the paperwork / admin required, but the downtime is pretty much zero. They can usually do it over the phone while you wait.

[Techrat]

You probably have to cancel Cybersmart and then re-order with Telkom, not 100%. Cybersmart's FAQ says 1 month notice is required to cancel.

[yeti]

Can one of their WiMAX customers comment on customer service?
Nevermind, someone already posted

[jamezjunk]

Dumb thing is you can't pay by credit card. I only use credit cards for payment. I'll finish signing up as soon as you allow credit card payment Screamer.

[saffakanera]

Stop making more credit jamez :)

[elL0L]

Shaped?

[marine1]

This just in!
OpenWeb has just launched 512kbs Uncapped for R260 :eek:

Edit:
Nexus ISP now charges R150 all inclusive 1024kbs

Edit2:
Cybersmart 4MB Uncapped now @ R99 !

stuff this i'm going to bed - bother me tomorrow with your low low prices, ISPs! :D

That a joke right?

[astrauss]

Can someone please set me straight on the meaning of "concurrent connections". I always thought it meant how many devices you could connect to your modem/router. Now posts in another thread lead me to believe it means how many modems you can connect to the same account, essentially allowing you to share you bandwidth with someone in a different location.

[InnerException]

This is awesome. Even though I'm on a 4mb line, the 384k seems awesome for general downloading when I am not at home (and hence the speed won't bother me).

[marine1]

The 512 is R300 cheaper than Chilli. :eek:
Soon local bandwidth will be a thing of the past :D

[ToxicBunny]

This does seem pretty awesome actually...

Now its a toss-up between digichilli and these okes...

[marine1]

Well these guys are far cheaper IMO, seems to be a better option but again, I will wait to see how this pans out.
I still think 1MB should be for R700

[LabAnimal]

*Phew* This is getting better and better! MrBeep seriously needs to jump in here with a few surprises! Openweb's Uncapped Threshold DSL is looking shocking next to these new prices!

[mrudling]

The term "Concurent connections" is used when describing how many times you can connect using the same username and password.

EG, if you have an adsl account that allows 2 Concurent connections, you will be able to use the same account when connecting from your home adsl modem, and say from your bussness's adsl modem.

Most adsl accounts allow for upto 4 Concurent connections, uncapped accounts only allowed one connection.

Digichilli shook things up by allowing 2 connections per uncapped account, allowing you to use the same account to connect at home and your bussness at the same time. Most people would "share" this account with a friend, effectivly halving the cost per person.

[Kosmik]

Interesting .... very interesting.

[phoneJunky]

hmm,

This seems nice. Will wait though, going to buy a flat early next year. Hopefully the prices still drops. Want to see what the people says about this service first...

[snail]

The term "Concurent connections" is used when describing how many times you can connect using the same username and password.

EG, if you have an adsl account that allows 2 Concurent connections, you will be able to use the same account when connecting from your home adsl modem, and say from your bussness's adsl modem.

Most adsl accounts allow for upto 4 Concurent connections, uncapped accounts only allowed one connection.

Digichilli shook things up by allowing 2 connections per uncapped account, allowing you to use the same account to connect at home and your bussness at the same time. Most people would "share" this account with a friend, effectivly halving the cost per person.

exactly, also refer to post 520 here http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=202075&page=35

[Zenbaas]

This is picking up nicely :D

[LabAnimal]

The only drawback if you're jumping from Neotel back onto DSL... is the installation charges from Telkom!

just to get 384k DSL enabled and re-activate your line will set you back R1011.96 excluding Screamer's Cost and Telkom's month to month charges (R682)
So your first bill will come in at R1693.96!!! thereafter R682 p/m all included!

[Kosmik]

hmm,

This seems nice. Will wait though, going to buy a flat early next year. Hopefully the prices still drops. Want to see what the people says about this service first...

I need my 4Mb afterhourse so will still be staying with Axxess for now.

[Gekco]

This is the best news this year!
I like it!

[flbjhb]

If screamer has their own Seacom access, why would they have their website hosted on a network connected to SAIX?:

1 ae-25-52.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.102) 0 msec
ae-15-51.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.70) 0 msec
ae-25-52.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.102) 0 msec
2 cetcrt001-gig2-1.scee.net (212.113.10.70) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 tpr-ip-esr-3-gig-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.25.54) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 188 msec 188 msec 188 msec
4 global-web-intact-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.25.54.14) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 180 msec 232 msec 180 msec
5 arcane.screamer.co.za (196.25.27.90) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 312 msec 232 msec 184 msec

[Zenbaas]

I need my 4Mb afterhourse so will still be staying with Axxess for now.

I would love a package with 4mb afterhours in mind :/

[CritiKill]

Howcome the smaller ISP's can make such significant price reductions whereas the bigger ISP's are doing sweet F-ALL about bringing some pricing relief. I'm still in a bit of a state of disbelief as Digichilli hasn't even launched properly and Screamer just went screaming past them.

Who wants to bet we'll have a R250 unlimited ADSL package by Feb next year?

WOOHOO!!

[bessie]

Just a question: Can I buy theR399 package if I have a 4Mb line at home? Confussed looks like I am capped at my speed at home to buy a specific Package ??

[Optimal01]

yes you can but of course your speeds will be at 384kbs unlike axxess who will let you run at max line speed after 6pm and the entire weekend. Great for 384k users not so much us 4mbit people

[Zenbaas]

yes you can but of course your speeds will be at 384kbs unlike axxess who will let you run at max line speed after 6pm and the entire weekend. Great for 384k users not so much us 4mbit people

I really hope they can squeeze in a offering with 384 daytime and 4mb from 6pm to 12pm or something like that would be awesome. *Massive HINT* :D

[Optimal01]

id be willing to pay for 384kb with full speed after hours :) i say R550/R600 sounds just about right i think. This would seriously undercut axxess

[Optimal01]

What i just realized that if all these smaller ISP's are offering uncapped services at these prices what are the big boys like OpenWeb/Axxess/Web Africa going to bring to the table?
I rate Web Africa has something up their sleeves now that they are a Tier 1 isp ;)

[howzit]

So if I signed a contract with telkom for do broadband 1 option does this mean the contract is with telkom for the line or isp? :confused: I think its the isp since I managed to cancel the isp for my mums place after she didnt use it.

I'm tired of telkoms prices!:mad:

You will need to cancel your bandwidth from Telkom but keep your telephone line and ADSL rental


Dumb thing is you can't pay by credit card. I only use credit cards for payment. I'll finish signing up as soon as you allow credit card payment Screamer.

We will introduce this option in a month or two but because the margins are so tight we needed to keep the admin to the minimum and linking a debit order to an account allowed us to automate most of the processing for the start.


The only drawback if you're jumping from Neotel back onto DSL... is the installation charges from Telkom!

just to get 384k DSL enabled and re-activate your line will set you back R1011.96 excluding Screamer's Cost and Telkom's month to month charges (R682)
So your first bill will come in at R1693.96!!! thereafter R682 p/m all included!

Please note that there is not setup or installation charge from Screamer


If screamer has their own Seacom access, why would they have their website hosted on a network connected to SAIX?:

1 ae-25-52.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.102) 0 msec
ae-15-51.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.70) 0 msec
ae-25-52.car5.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.102) 0 msec
2 cetcrt001-gig2-1.scee.net (212.113.10.70) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 tpr-ip-esr-3-gig-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.25.54) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 188 msec 188 msec 188 msec
4 global-web-intact-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.25.54.14) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 180 msec 232 msec 180 msec
5 arcane.screamer.co.za (196.25.27.90) [AS5713 {SAIX-NET}] 312 msec 232 msec 184 msec

We use blended fibre based bandwidth from Seacom and SAIX, amongst others, which we found provided a stable bandwidth supply and gave some redundancy. So there is still some SAIX bandwidth involved.


Just a question: Can I buy theR399 package if I have a 4Mb line at home? Confussed looks like I am capped at my speed at home to buy a specific Package ??

Yes you can, We don't rely on Telkom to provision your applied package speed. We do that ourselves.

[Zenbaas]

What i just realized that if all these smaller ISP's are offering uncapped services at these prices what are the big boys like OpenWeb/Axxess/Web Africa going to bring to the table?
I rate Web Africa has something up their sleeves now that they are a Tier 1 isp ;)

We HOPE, but these offerings seriously undercut what some of these "higher up providers" have promised to offer us in the past ;)

[astrauss]

The term "Concurent connections" is used when describing how many times you can connect using the same username and password.

EG, if you have an adsl account that allows 2 Concurent connections, you will be able to use the same account when connecting from your home adsl modem, and say from your bussness's adsl modem.

Most adsl accounts allow for upto 4 Concurent connections, uncapped accounts only allowed one connection.

Digichilli shook things up by allowing 2 connections per uncapped account, allowing you to use the same account to connect at home and your bussness at the same time. Most people would "share" this account with a friend, effectivly halving the cost per person.

Thank you for the explanation

[CritiKill]

Just wonering what's up with Neotel? They're getting their arse handed to them on a plate and their 156K Neotel Lite warra-warra @ R499/month for unlimited is looking like a pile of hot, steamy telco-manure.

Surely they need to see that the writing is on the wall and they can't go on fleecing the public like their arch-nemesis Telkom has been doing for so long? Would be interesting to see how Neotel and iBurst respond to these latest developments.

[CellBel]

Very good news & price. :)
Now we're just waiting for Rip Van Winkle (Telscum) to wake up and lower their line rental rip-off.

[bwana]

We will introduce this option in a month or two but because the margins are so tight we needed to keep the admin to the minimum and linking a debit order to an account allowed us to automate most of the processing for the start.OK - I can wait . . . unless another provider comes along with something similar with credit card facilities. :o

Thanks for shaking things up!

[phoneJunky]

Wonder what the other ISP's response will be to this

[jamezjunk]

Thanks for the answers screamer. What about local usenet. I'm assuming you are running on IS, and if so, will it allow access to local USENET?

[Blaze786]

Amazing news! Well done Screamer, Afrihost & Digichilli! The first in the price wars!

Now give us full line speed after hours and you will have an awesome package!

[Tero]

Very good news! :D Let the price wars begin=Filled up hard drives. :D

[cavedog]

Thanks for the answers screamer. What about local usenet. I'm assuming you are running on IS, and if so, will it allow access to local USENET?


I don't think so. Cause if they run seacom bandwidth then they utilize the Neotel backbone here in SA and I'm pretty sure that they will have to use their own 41.xxx.xxx.xxx ip range. So It will be blocked by other local news servers. :erm:


Afrihost :0 Screamer :1

[Borrels]

Thanks for the answers screamer. What about local usenet. I'm assuming you are running on IS, and if so, will it allow access to local USENET?

You don't have any news server access with Screamer.

[doodsangel]

Is the Screamer option also burstable?

[bwana]

You don't have any news server access with Screamer.Are you suggesting they actively block NNTP or just that you dont have access to the SAIX/IS news servers?

[djiceman]

Now with all the heat on ISP's for lower prices and better offerings....

Whats going to cause telkom to lower their line rental or atleast nudge all line speeds up 1 level.

[Dixie]

Very good news & price. :)
Now we're just waiting for Rip Van Winkle (Telscum) to wake up and lower their line rental rip-off.

Ah. You see, they are just sitting back and smiling, sucking the fat from the free meat. All these specials just means that everything, still has to go through Telkom, with monthly line rentals, etc.

[ASS_SAZiN`]

I assume that Is and saix servers will not allow IP's from outside their network. But with something like giganews or any other international provider you would be better off anyway.

[kaaskop]

:eek:

[Pr⊕phet]

wonder when the "big" boys will follow suit; openweb do you have a move this time ?

good to see that screamer has joined the club :)

[howzit]

Amazing news! Well done Screamer, Afrihost & Digichilli! The first in the price wars!

Now give us full line speed after hours and you will have an awesome package!

Could you please elaborate about the afterhours speed comment. You have the full speed that you applied for, for 24 hrs.

[Ryansta]

Just to be sure, one needs to pay dsl line fee(R152) + telephone line fee(dont know)?
Or if you dont want a land lineyou can just pay the R152?

[cavedog]

HERE IS THE CATCH for 4mb line holders!
http://www.zoopy.com/data/media/101355/original.jpg

As you can see its R230 for 5GB of bandwidth for a 4mb line holder [almost double that of afrihost offer] and not R115 as the website says. Nice play with words! Shurely its worth a complaint! They should list all the prices not when you half through the signup notice that your are signing up for more than you thought!

[Pr⊕phet]

HERE IS THE CATCH for 4mb line holders!
http://www.zoopy.com/data/media/101355/original.jpg

As you can see its R230 for 5GB of bandwidth for a 4mb line holder [almost double that of afrihost offer] and not R115 as the website says. Nice play with words! Shurely its worth a complaint! They should list all the prices not when you half through the signup notice that your are signing up for more than you thought!

are you sure you are not confusing adsl and adsl + line ?

...adsl capped 5 gig for all lines == R115 (http://www.screamer.co.za/adsl_data.php)

[AntiThesis]

Price per GB doesn't really come in if it's unlimited does it?

I love the smell of competition in the morning! Nice :)

I wonder why everyone is suddenly calling it "Unlimited" rather than "Uncapped". Have we just become so disappointed with the Uncapped we have now that it has a negative image? Or is this some lovely new definition that will make us sad at a later date? :D

[efitol]

The only drawback if you're jumping from Neotel back onto DSL... is the installation charges from Telkom!

just to get 384k DSL enabled and re-activate your line will set you back R1011.96 excluding Screamer's Cost and Telkom's month to month charges (R682)
So your first bill will come in at R1693.96!!! thereafter R682 p/m all included!
not really, you can have the new adsl active without any installation charges, just a few loopholes:

1) when you apply for the line, do not apply for the adsl. just apply for the normal line only, and ask for closer 2, which costs an additional R26 per month, but the installation charge will be waived. you can cancel the closer option as soon as your line is installed.

2) after your line is installed, apply for adsl self installation. this does not attract an installation charge because no technician needs to come out to your place, everything is done remotely or whatever, and once your adsl is active setting up from your end is easy, or just ask for help from this board.

3) speed up your installation time by calling them everyday to ask about progress. they'll speed up your installation just so you can stop calling them :D

[cavedog]

are you sure you are not confusing adsl and adsl + line ?

...adsl capped 5 gig for all lines == R115 (http://www.screamer.co.za/adsl_data.php)


No. This is what you select. Only this drop down box. The only thing that continues is the unlimited packages as mentioned on their site. You need to select the monthly package from there. I want the 5GB but I don't want it with 384k speed. I want full speed for gaming, skype ect ect. :mad:

[sallyspencer]

This just in!
OpenWeb has just launched 512kbs Uncapped for R260 :eek:

Edit:
Nexus ISP now charges R150 all inclusive 1024kbs

Edit2:
Cybersmart 4MB Uncapped now @ R99 !

stuff this i'm going to bed - bother me tomorrow with your low low prices, ISPs! :D

where is the Open Web one.....:confused:

[efitol]

where is the Open Web one.....:confused:

woosh! :D

[Freaksta]

Anyone on the screamer uncapped yet?

[InnerException]

where is the Open Web one.....:confused:

That was a joke made by keeper. We can only hope and see if it might become reality sometime soon.

[howzit]

HERE IS THE CATCH for 4mb line holders!
http://www.zoopy.com/data/media/101355/original.jpg

As you can see its R230 for 5GB of bandwidth for a 4mb line holder [almost double that of afrihost offer] and not R115 as the website says. Nice play with words! Shurely its worth a complaint! They should list all the prices not when you half through the signup notice that your are signing up for more than you thought!

Hi Cavedog

Thanks for pointing out the typo in our dropdown. You will see that the first 5Gb package is for R115 for 384kbs. The 512 and 1024 should also be but the web developer typed in R230 by mistake and this will be corrected in the next few minutes.

[cavedog]

Hi Cavedog

Thanks for pointing out the typo in our dropdown. You will see that the first 5Gb package is for R115 for 384kbs. The 512 and 1024 should also be but the web developer typed in R230 by mistake and this will be corrected in the next few minutes.

Ohh ok so its R115 for 5GB on a 4mb line too! :D Now you talking my language!

[efitol]

No. This is what you select. Only this drop down box. The only thing that continues is the unlimited packages as mentioned on their site. You need to select the monthly package from there. I want the 5GB but I don't want it with 384k speed. I want full speed for gaming, skype ect ect. :mad:

to me it looks like they made an error on that drop down list because the 5GB and 10GB packages cost the same ;)
EDIT: beaten by them lol

[mrudling]

How does the billing cycle work for the uncapped? I am keen to try, but dont want to wait till the end of the month.

If I signup now, when will I be billed next?

[cavedog]

How does the billing cycle work for the uncapped? I am keen to try, but dont want to wait till the end of the month.

If I signup now, when will I be billed next?

+1

[sallyspencer]

woosh! :D



:D:D:D:D.......just what I thought.....am slow before 4 pm......:o

[Terata]

Just to compare Telkom Wimax offer with Screamer http://www.telkom.co.za/products_services/wimax/cost.html and http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_unlimited.php

[howzit]

Ohh ok so its R115 for 5GB on a 4mb line too! :D Now you talking my language!

It has been corrected.

[Tjoker]

"Out-of-package rate of only 3c per MB" super duber UBER cheap!!!! 1GB for R30

im justing wondering if telkom and mweb are just sitting back, having a look at digichilli and screamer, see them squirm for market share and watch them fold......it will be very sad...are these guys really here to stay...or are they taking chances with the edgy consumer(myBB users)?

[LabAnimal]

not really, you can have the new adsl active without any installation charges, just a few loopholes:

1) when you apply for the line, do not apply for the adsl. just apply for the normal line only, and ask for closer 2, which costs an additional R26 per month, but the installation charge will be waived. you can cancel the closer option as soon as your line is installed.

2) after your line is installed, apply for adsl self installation. this does not attract an installation charge because no technician needs to come out to your place, everything is done remotely or whatever, and once your adsl is active setting up from your end is easy, or just ask for help from this board.

3) speed up your installation time by calling them everyday to ask about progress. they'll speed up your installation just so you can stop calling them :D

Thanks for that :)

[howzit]

Price per GB doesn't really come in if it's unlimited does it?

I love the smell of competition in the morning! Nice :)

I wonder why everyone is suddenly calling it "Unlimited" rather than "Uncapped". Have we just become so disappointed with the Uncapped we have now that it has a negative image? Or is this some lovely new definition that will make us sad at a later date? :D

The definition "uncapped" started getting a bad rep because some ISP's capped you and then billed you for anything you used over your cap and they called the package uncapped. Other ISP's throttled you during certain hours and others introduced "rolling caps" but they all called it uncapped. We decided to go for unlimited which is truly what we all expected uncapped to be in the first place.


How does the billing cycle work for the uncapped? I am keen to try, but dont want to wait till the end of the month.

If I signup now, when will I be billed next?

If you apply now the system works out a pro-rata amount owing for the rest of November and that is all you are charged immediately. The full amount for December is then debited at the beginning of Dec.

I see that some clients that applied this morning have already been issued their login details.:)

[gregmcc]

Wow - this is good news!! Now were getting closer to sensible prices!

[nicki]

"Throws cat among pigeons (watch out Winston!)"

Screamer is the guys operating or used to operate on Sentech's frequencies, right?

[howzit]

"Out-of-package rate of only 3c per MB" super duber UBER cheap!!!! 1GB for R30

im justing wondering if telkom and mweb are just sitting back, having a look at digichilli and screamer, see them squirm for market share and watch them fold......it will be very sad...are these guys really here to stay...or are they taking chances with the edgy consumer(myBB users)?

LOL
Screamer is a well known ISP that has its own WiMAX network. It has been around for 4 years and already has thousands of clients. It forms part of the Hartwell Group and has large financial backers and clever financial people so it is definitely not about to fold.
If they say these prices are covering their costs then you can believe it.

[diabolus]

Just to be sure, one needs to pay dsl line fee(R152) + telephone line fee(dont know)?
Or if you dont want a land lineyou can just pay the R152?

Not sure i believe you must get a landline anyway in some form, which is R130 p/month. Also keep in mind the Do1 package which includes your line rental is R199 which includes 1GB international + 10GB Local bandwidth . I suppose there is an option to -just- pay line rental [without 1gb] , haven't looked into that though.

And don't forget i think the R152 applies to 384kb/s ? It jumps by another R200 or so for 4Mb/s [the line rental]. So you can't go to say Screamer and buy the 1Mb/s unlimited option if you're only paying line rental for a 384kb/s line...well you can but you're not going to get 1Mb/s ....

I figured the 1GB package is good to get just to at least see your line speed is working as Telkom intended, and to compare with whatever other ISP you use [latency/speed etc]. So it might happen that Telkom 1GB might work well when another ISPs "unlimited" offering might not because overload/congestion etc.

[digital]

........ooooo.....i want THIS ONE.....

[mrudling]

Thanks for the reply,

Is there anyway to signup without seting up a debit order, I will make an eft for the pro-rata fee, and for folling monthly fees should I enjoy the package.

Basicly looking for a month to month pay before you use option?

[fluffy54]

I'd still like confirmation on the local news server story with screamer wimax. Also which international news serves are free and good?

[Ryansta]

Thanks... so i dont need to have an 011 *** **** number first before i can get an adsl line attached?

For that Do 1, is it R199 total? I will have a working product for R199? All i wat to spend is R400 to R600 for something that i know will always work and wont run out...

[Tjoker]

Not sure i believe you must get a landline anyway in some form, which is R130 p/month. Also keep in mind the Do1 package which includes your line rental is R199 which includes 1GB international + 10GB Local bandwidth . I suppose there is an option to -just- pay line rental [without 1gb] , haven't looked into that though.


how sure are you about that...

what i can gather from the their website it says R199 for 384k ADSL line + 1GB Data. Analogue line rental NOT included

[LabAnimal]

Not sure i believe you must get a landline anyway in some form, which is R130 p/month. Also keep in mind the Do1 package which includes your line rental is R199 which includes 1GB international + 10GB Local bandwidth . I suppose there is an option to -just- pay line rental [without 1gb] , haven't looked into that though..

WRONG - All Do packages EXCLUDES line rental!

[bradrap]

Now give me uncapped 4mb and I'll be happy :>

[burn]

Now give me uncapped 4mb and I'll be happy :>

You can get it all over the place - for a price :o

[Tjoker]

Theoretically you can do 100GB's with 384k uncapped.....

[snobee]

Some have asked about the high cost of adsl bandwidth with larger ISP's. Now I can't speak for some of them, but I do know when I spoke a few months ago to my Vox/Datapro Sales Rep, he said for them they have two prices. As we know Vox have come down to R50 per Gig, but some don't know on their corporate face, their cost per gig is actually more than R80 per gig! One of the reasons they told me is that the higher cost helps pay for "my" corporate consultant. So, if I have a problem, I will phone my Sales rep or corporate consultant who sorts the problem out. I don't sit on the phone dealing with it, they do.
I do see the logic in this. But for me, I have leased line access through the first tier, but have chosen to save a ton of money and send all me adsl through Afrihost... and so far it has worked out well.

[kilos]

Howzit - do you provide static IP addresses ?
IS what about your 10 Gb/s Seacom access ? Still under test.
That will be the next price drop to the IS resellers

[efitol]

you can't have adsl without the phone line from telkom. so you must pay normal line rental PLUS the adsl service charge for your chosen speed PLUS whatever data bundle you choose

[gregmcc]

I wonder what local news server you will have access to with Screamer?

[burn]

I wonder what local news server you will have access to with Screamer?

On my limited knowledge on news servers I'd say possibly only SAIX, as they mention they get some bandwidth from them. But you can go international now

[Rouxenator]

I'm not a telkom fan so hence I do not have ADSL. Screamer sounds too good to be true, and it is - when checking for coverage I found they do not even have Western Province in their search criteria.

[digital]

.....so has anyone signed up with screamer?

[burn]

I'm not a telkom fan so hence I do not have ADSL. Screamer sounds too good to be true, and it is - when checking for coverage I found they do not even have Western Province in their search criteria.

Yes, for wimax... No coverage issues with ADSL unless Telkom can not provide. Your wimax will most likely get onto the telkom network along the way anyway, so time to switch :p

[St3baS]

This is awesome, I will be applying for it beginning of next month, unless its possible to do it by EFT somehow so I could do some testing for the rest of this month...

Could anyone with an account do a ping to games.saix.net, www.is.co.za and www.google.com and post the results please, Just to get an idea of the latency.

[gregmcc]

I hope they accept EFT's

[mrudling]

This is awesome, I will be applying for it beginning of next month, unless its possible to do it by EFT somehow so I could do some testing for the rest of this month...

Could anyone with an account do a ping to games.saix.net, www.is.co.za and www.google.com and post the results please, Just to get an idea of the latency.

+1

EFT for the month in advance for the win! Surly this must be possible? If I dont have the cash, or simply dont need the service for a month, I shoulnt have to cancel a debit order everytime.

[phenom]

Goodbye Neotel :D

[gregmcc]

Goodbye Neotel :D

Goodbye everyone - hello Screamer! :)

[schurtek]

pity, no wimax in durbs or toti?

[gtway]

Hi Howzit,

Is the data shaped or unshaped? If using p2p, will my speed be affected, or will I get full line speed, day and night?

[diabolus]

WRONG - All Do packages EXCLUDES line rental!

Sorry my mistake, Telkom's packages are kind of a minefield, if you take certain Call+ADSL combo packages things start to overlap and it's hard to tell what is included where and when.

I am on a Closer Package @R532 which includes everything (1GB Do1 + Closer Voice Call Package).

http://www.do.co.za/broadband/index.html#/products/

Now i'm still not sure whether you can get away without the Home Line Rental [the R130 p/month cost] and just pay R152 and then go to another ISP. I mean just to -check- for ADSL availability you need a 011xxxxx type of number .......in my case i want the phone line anyway so i don't know...

[Zyzzyva]

Hi Howzit,

Is the data shaped or unshaped? If using p2p, will my speed be affected, or will I get full line speed, day and night?

Its completely unshaped, and you get full line speed day and night.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=3343205&postcount=26

[fluffy54]

I'd signup in a split second, my only issue is the equipment rental story. I'd happily buy it but can you imagine you join screamer, pay the R2599 (rental) and then a better deal comes out somewhere else. Or you pay +-R250 a month extra which makes it expensive again. It should be a R2599 deposit on equipment that you get back if you leave.

[burn]

I'd signup in a split second, my only issue is the equipment rental story. I'd happily buy it but can you imagine you join screamer, pay the R2599 (rental) and then a better deal comes out somewhere else. Or you pay +-R250 a month extra which makes it expensive again. It should be a R2599 deposit on equipment that you get back if you leave.

Yes, guess at this time it is only dsl users that can switching accounts like crazy. Cuz we have no idea what might be coming out in the next few months

[howzit]

Thanks for the reply,

Is there anyway to signup without seting up a debit order, I will make an eft for the pro-rata fee, and for folling monthly fees should I enjoy the package.

Basicly looking for a month to month pay before you use option?

We can only offer prices like this if we keep admin to the minimum and using a debit order system we can immediately link accounts to payments and automate most of the process. That is why debit orders are the only way you can apply for now.


Now give me uncapped 4mb and I'll be happy :>

There is a 4Mg unLIMITED package for R1499 monthly


Howzit - do you provide static IP addresses ?
IS what about your 10 Gb/s Seacom access ? Still under test.
That will be the next price drop to the IS resellers

Yes we do supply static IP addresses


Yes, for wimax... No coverage issues with ADSL unless Telkom can not provide. Your wimax will most likely get onto the telkom network along the way anyway, so time to switch :p

Our WiMAX connections are supplied completely on our own network so we don't rely on Telkom for anything.


Hi Howzit,

Is the data shaped or unshaped? If using p2p, will my speed be affected, or will I get full line speed, day and night?

Unshaped and all ports are open. You get full line speed 24 hrs and only the ADSL supply is dependent on what Telkom provision your connection with.

[Shred]

Wow, very good pricing.

[gtway]

Thanks Jak3 & Howzit, I must have missed that. Well, bye bye Afrihost and Cybersmart!...

[twiga]

There is a 4Mg unLIMITED package for R1499 monthly

According to the website it's R2,499 ?

[howzit]

I'd signup in a split second, my only issue is the equipment rental story. I'd happily buy it but can you imagine you join screamer, pay the R2599 (rental) and then a better deal comes out somewhere else. Or you pay +-R250 a month extra which makes it expensive again. It should be a R2599 deposit on equipment that you get back if you leave.

If you look at our comparisons page http://www.screamer.co.za/wimax_compare.php
you will see that a WiMAX rental plus bandwidth is still cheaper than the ADSL line rental with our bandwidth.

[Zyzzyva]

There is a 4Mg unLIMITED package for R2499 monthly


Y

Corrected

[howzit]

According to the website it's R2,499 ?

Sorry, it is R2,499. Time for another coffee.....

[Zyzzyva]

According to the website it's R2,499 ?

Snap. On these fast moving thread i seem to be saying that alot :)

[saffakanera]

Just faxed through my confirmation form, got the 10 gig 384 at about R230 or something insane like that :O

How long does the process of getting your account take?

[burn]

*Doing the unshaped dance* :D :D :D Please let this help with WoW :P Cuz anything will be better than what I have been dealing with

[doodsangel]

I have a question. Upload speed is determined by the line's upload speed, correct?

Thus a 384kbps has a potential upload speed of 128kps as per Telkom line restriction.

Now if you get the unlimited 384kbps data from a provider like screamer, and you are uploading at 128kbps (on your 384kbps line), does that mean that you can only download at 384 - 128 = 256kbps??

regards,

[Rouxenator]

I already have wireless CPE that I paid R2000 for two years ago. I wonder if it will work for Screamer - if and when they invade the Western Cape that is.

[Kosmik]

I have a question. Upload speed is determined by the line's upload speed, correct?

Thus a 384kbps has a potential upload speed of 128kps as per Telkom line restriction.

Now if you get the unlimited 384kbps data from a provider like screamer, and you are uploading at 128kbps (on your 384kbps line), does that mean that you can only download at 384 - 128 = 256kbps??

regards,

No, the line is ADSL, Asynchronous. You have two pipes, one up, one down, different speeds on both. They do not total to your line speed.

[blunt]

How many concurrent connections is this uncapped service? Digichilli was 2, that's where they might win over on the price difference, I dont see any mention of concurrent connections..

[doodsangel]

No, the line is ADSL, Asynchronous. You have two pipes, one up, one down, different speeds on both. They do not total to your line speed.

Thank you

[mr.sniper]

WoW i woke up to reading this, just made my day. Its seems like everyone is singing up for the uncapped accounts instead of the cheaper normal data accounts

[Kosmik]

Could you please elaborate about the afterhours speed comment. You have the full speed that you applied for, for 24 hrs.

He means is it similar to the axxess account. After hours, your account is allowed full line speed irrespective of account. So if a person has a 4Mb line and purchases a 384k account, they are limited to 384k in the day but at night and weekends get 4Mb.

This is the only reason I'm staying with Axxess myself as I need the 4Mb after hours for streaming. Work-hours, don't care about my home connection.

[saffakanera]

WoW i woke up to reading this, just made my day. Its seems like everyone is singing up for the uncapped accounts instead of the cheaper normal data accounts


Yea the 10 gig 384 makes ALOT of sense to me, at only R230, I spend about R300 at Imaginet for 3 gigs, which is a huge difference, although I really dug Imaginet's service etc, the pricings just cant be compared with, sorry guys :(

Screamer for teh win.

[Agrotog]

Could anyone with an account do a ping to games.saix.net, www.is.co.za and www.google.com and post the results please, Just to get an idea of the latency.
Ping to games.saix.net = 247MS
Ping to google.com = 53MS

[howzit]

Just faxed through my confirmation form, got the 10 gig 384 at about R230 or something insane like that :O

How long does the process of getting your account take?

We are already sending out logins so you should receive yours shortly.

[czc]

Looking good. Anyone that has their accounts already care to comment?

Howzit did say there was already a response.

[Tjoker]

@howzit

what is after hours speed going to be like if you have a 4MB line? will the max be 384k?

[saffakanera]

We are already sending out logins so you should receive yours shortly.

Awesome, thank you Howzit, I really hope you guys get a mountain of clients from this!

[St3baS]

Ping to games.saix.net = 247MS
Ping to google.com = 53MS

Im quite sure you mean the other way around?? If its not then that would be amazing... International gaming for all.
But Im sure you mean 247MS for google and 53MS for saix?
Correct me if Im wrong.

[NomNom]

Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

[saffakanera]

Ping to games.saix.net = 247MS
Ping to google.com = 53MS

Wrong way around doofus lol :D

[ForSure]

How many concurrent connections is this uncapped service? Digichilli was 2, that's where they might win over on the price difference, I dont see any mention of concurrent connections..


waits for answer from howzit as im interested to know the answer too
:D

[burn]

Account for this month being charge pro rata or full price?

Might have missed this above, sorry if it's a repeat...

[lordrage]

@ Howzit - Do you allow concurrent connections on the 384k uncapped?

[saffakanera]

Don't say it cost R400 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

I pay about R260 for Telkom line rent / 3 gig int, 20 gigs local and I add another R230 for 10 gigs international from Screamer... I believe my deal pwns urs :)

And R23 per gig extra, dude thats nuts, its the best bb deal since ever man, cmon cheer up.

[Zyzzyva]

Everyone needs to get their non-tech family to sign up. A few grannies would help too.

This is the first adsl uncapped account which falls below the "i have to run it 24/7 so i can get my money's worth" threshold.

Finally the over-sell system will have a chance of working properly.

[Zyzzyva]

Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

Do you work for cybersmart?

Laurie Failkov is that you?

[Agrotog]

i currently have the Wireless solution, this is my second month using it, and i haven;t had any issues yet at all. I am gaming online, and am getting the best latencies i have ever had in S.A.

[Playoff]

This is awesome, I will be applying for it beginning of next month, unless its possible to do it by EFT somehow so I could do some testing for the rest of this month...

Could anyone with an account do a ping to games.saix.net, www.is.co.za and www.google.com and post the results please, Just to get an idea of the latency.




C:\Users\>ping games.saix.net -t

Pinging games.saix.net [196.43.22.222] with 32 bytes of data:

Ping statistics for 196.43.22.222:
Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 26, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 44ms, Maximum = 69ms, Average = 61ms

[rurapente]

does it allow concurrent connections? if so how many?

[Tjoker]

Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:


mampara, no ADSL account package includes that..........then you have to mad at openweb, digichilli, pretty much everyone

[saffakanera]

Do you work for cybersmart?

Laurie Failkov is that you?

17 posts, most probably is.

What a low blow from Cybersmart, you SUCK. :mad:

[cda]

Can one of their WiMAX customers comment on customer service?


Horrific, but the SNR on this tread just fell through the floor so I suspect hundreds of people will buy it and find out for themselves.

As a customer, Screamer feels tragically understaffed and a move like this is probably going to burn them.

[saffakanera]

mampara, no ADSL account package includes that..........then you have to mad at openweb, digichilli, pretty much everyone

Dont stress yourself, its just some Cybersmart employee douche trying to justify them screwing people for some extra $.

[Kosmik]

mampara

:D:D:p ROFL

[Scoliosis]

I know Howzit said it was 'unshaped'....but just phoned Tech Support on 0861106161...and he insisted it was 'shaped'. I am looking to replace Axxess who has become expensive, but essentially only use ADSL for World of Warcraft which pretty much demands an 'unshaped account'. Any warcraft players try this yet?

[Tinuva]

Pings are great, possible one of you can do a traceroute for us to lets say:

google.co.za
games.saix.net
jolt.co.uk

That would be great.

[Tjoker]

Dont stress yourself, its just some Cybersmart employee douche trying to justify them screwing people for some extra $.

haha, didnt see that Tjoker = mampara , haha

[saffakanera]

Horrific, but the SNR on this tread just fell through the floor so I suspect hundreds of people will buy it and find out for themselves.

As a customer, Screamer feels tragically understaffed and a move like this is probably going to burn them.

Are you talking with regards to the Wimax service? They seem to be rolling thunder on the fixed line ISP side!

[license]

my calcs, 1mbits @ R5500, with ADSL uncapped, Screamer are probably sporting a 50:1 contention ratio on their uncapped solutions.

Care to comment Screamer ?

[doodsangel]

Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

[St3baS]

C:\Users\>ping games.saix.net -t

Pinging games.saix.net [196.43.22.222] with 32 bytes of data:

Ping statistics for 196.43.22.222:
Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 26, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 44ms, Maximum = 69ms, Average = 61ms

Thanks alot :)

[saffakanera]

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

Hear Hear! Drive these ISP trolls away!

[Tjoker]

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

another mampara......haha

[Blaze786]

Could you please elaborate about the afterhours speed comment. You have the full speed that you applied for, for 24 hrs.

I am reffering to doing something like axxess express uncapped. 384k during peak ours full line speed during off peak, so if I have a 4mb line after hours I get full speed.

[howzit]

How many concurrent connections is this uncapped service? Digichilli was 2, that's where they might win over on the price difference, I dont see any mention of concurrent connections..

The uncapped packages are one concurrent connection.


@howzit

what is after hours speed going to be like if you have a 4MB line? will the max be 384k?

You get the speed that you applied for, for 24hrs


Account for this month being charge pro rata or full price?

Might have missed this above, sorry if it's a repeat...

It is pro rata for the month that you receive your login details.


my calcs, 1mbits @ R5500, with ADSL uncapped, Screamer are probably sporting a 50:1 contention ratio on their uncapped solutions.

Care to comment Screamer ?


I dont know what the ratios are but I do know that the CEO has threatened the tech dept with death if they overcontend the bandwidth.

[Agrotog]

Don't say it cost R399 for 384k uncapped when you are excluding the line rental it costs R551... :mad:

As for their 384k 5gigs package for R115+R152=R267 ,I pay R302 for 384k rental + 5.30 gigs international cap + 3gigs local + Grow For Life from Cybersmart.

The only way screamer is better is the fact that you pay R23 for an extra gig, not to mention that it most probably doesn't come with local cap.

UH? they don't provide the line so why would they add the line cost?


Wrong way around doofus lol :D

UH no, theat was the correct way around, just tested again, this time google gave me 50 MS, and Saix gave me 247 again.


I know Howzit said it was 'unshaped'....but just phoned Tech Support on 0861106161...and he insisted it was 'shaped'. I am looking to replace Axxess who has become expensive, but essentially only use ADSL for World of Warcraft which pretty much demands an 'unshaped account'. Any warcraft players try this yet?

IT is definatly unshapped, just phoned them now in concern, but the tech was wrong, it is unshapped.

[NomNom]

Ummm.. Please recalculate. With your 5.3gig international cap account, you can only download 5.3gig of international and apparently 3 gigs of local (don't you mean 30gig?).. According to my calculation, you can at most download 8.3 gigs in one month.

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.
My first line talks about the uncapped offering, the rest talks about the 384k 5gigs package they offer.

[saffakanera]

UH no, theat was the correct way around, just tested again, this time google gave me 50 MS, and Saix gave me 247 again.
.


Look dude, stop the BS and gtfo.

[Kraai2009]

Well done Screamer

I am a wimax screamer user for about 6 months now, and generally are satisfied with the connections, speed etc.

As for customer support, I cannot comment on the support line itself, as I am dealing straight with the local screamer agent in my area regarding support, and they are doing a good job with that. So, I suppose, if the screamer support line is perhaps not up to standard, as mentioned in this thread, go thru the local guys in your area if they are there.

And for Howzit on this forum, I can honestly say that he is very helpful and if there is any issues, he is able and willing to sort them out, imho.

Now I must just figure out how will I as a wimax user going to benefit from this, let me go and see.

[Kosmik]

Look dude, stop the BS and gtfo.

Actually if google have setup their local servers he may just get a 50 ms ping but 200+ to games.saix? :erm::confused:

[St3baS]

UH no, theat was the correct way around, just tested again, this time google gave me 50 MS, and Saix gave me 247 again.

If thats true then thats amazing haha! Could you post a screenshot :)
Thanks :D

[Agrotog]

C:\Users\Screamer>ping games.saix.net

Pinging games.saix.net [196.43.22.222] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=247

Ping statistics for 196.43.22.222:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 119ms, Average = 74ms



C:\Users\Screamer>ping games.saix.net

Pinging games.saix.net [196.43.22.222] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=247
Reply from 196.43.22.222: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=247

Ping statistics for 196.43.22.222:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 119ms, Average = 74ms

[Agrotog]

how do i POST a screen shot?

[Playoff]

Are you talking with regards to the Wimax service? They seem to be rolling thunder on the fixed line ISP side!

This cda character is apparently a free lance hack who tries to put a downer on anyone. If you ignore him he will continue posting negative comments as he has already posted 2 on this thread today saying the same thing.

I for one am a long time WiMAX client on Screamer and have had nothing but outstanding and personalised service from them.

[rurapente]

hmm. the 1 concurrent connection thing is a bit of an annoyance. but, considering I push +/- 12-20GB pm on the axxess uncapped It may be worth my while to switch to the 512k from screamer. hmmmm.

[saffakanera]

how do i POST a screen shot?

Post the ping to google at 50ms or are you a dirty liar?

[saffakanera]

Thought so.

[rurapente]

now if only i could get this to google :)
64 bytes from xxxxx (66.249.90.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=1.87 ms
64 bytes from xxxxx (66.249.90.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=2.03 ms

But I really doubt you would ping google.com with less ms than something at saix, i mean its routed within our country vs international?

[saffakanera]

rurapente never mind I think hes just trolling for a P klap.

[Jazzy_SA]

Sorry to bug chaps... I have a 4mb line, 15 pages is a lot to go through but off which backbone are they running? IS or SAIX?

[Agrotog]

rurapente never mind I think hes just trolling for a P klap.

LOOK UP:mad:

[efitol]

Sorry to bug chaps... I have a 4mb line, 15 pages is a lot to go through but off which backbone are they running? IS or SAIX?

SAIX + SEACOM

[Jazzy_SA]

SAIX + SEACOMThanks mate and I take it this is unshaped? :rolleyes:

[efitol]

Thanks mate and I take it this is unshaped? :rolleyes:

apparently so, but we're getting conflicting info

[saffakanera]

LOOK UP:mad:

Dammit man!! OK, highlight the command prompt window, press cntrl+print screen *top right of your keyboard* now PASTE this, PASTE this in MS PAINT. Now go to Mybb click on Photos and upload it. then link the page.

50s google ping, wtf dude... thats just a nasty statement to make..

[Jazzy_SA]

apparently so, but we're getting conflicting infoGuess I'll wait until its all cleared up then... Prices are really good

[ForSure]

SAIX + SEACOM


awesome should be ok for gaming and downloading i hope :confused:

[license]

I dont know what the ratios are but I do know that the CEO has threatened the tech dept with death if they overcontend the bandwidth.

I'm relunctant to believe that statement. Contention is a black-art ISP dirty hack. To offer those types of prices, like DigiChilli, the line must be contented. I'm assuming high contention during peak, and low during offpeak. +- 100:1 peak and 50:1 offpeak.

I would love to know an official statement, but as all things in SA, the wool is ALWAYS pulled over the SA consumer, while we get shafted from behind without Vaseline and then made to believe this is as best as we can get it.

Anyway, still would like an official statement from screamer on contention ratios, so I can work out if its trully feasible to sign up with Screamer, or wait for the next dumbass ISP to come in and slash prices more and up the contention.

[scalywag1]

Wow this is awesome :D

Just a question, I have MWEB 384k 5GB, now if I downgrade to 1GB and then get the Screamer unlimited 384k, will I still be able to use my MWEB email once I switch accounts on the router? or would I have to switch back to the MWEB account to use it?

Oh and with this account the ping to games.saix.net avergaes 26ms :D but doubt theres much difference between 26 and +- 70 when playing HoN :D

Thanks guys :D

[howzit]

Guess I'll wait until its all cleared up then... Prices are really good

It is unshaped.

I just want to clear up the pro rata question.

The unlimited accounts charges are prorated from the time you receive your login to the last day of the month.

The capped/data bundle packages are not because we don't know how much of your cap you are going to download..

[license]

With the unlimited solution screamer is offering here, you can potentially download ((384/8)*60*60*24*30)/1000000 = 124.416gig of international/local.

I'm sorry, but 124.4gig beats 8.3gigs pants down.

You'll need 23 and a bit accounts to download 124.4 gigs at your current SP giving you a grand total of R2645 odd... Umm, the R399 from screamer is still cheaper to download that amount of data.

Thats assuming you get a true 384kbits service, and not just a nice contented minimum of 384/50 kbits ;-)

Anyway, would love to see screamer take on a few accounts, and gather how bad the service gets over time. There must be reasons why IS (having seacom and a larger infrastructure) have not dropped prices below R20 per GB.

Anyway, just my thoughts. I hope it works out thou... I wonder who the next contender will be to bring in sub R20 per GB costs.. Come on Guys!!!

[howzit]

Wow this is awesome :D

Just a question, I have MWEB 384k 5GB, now if I downgrade to 1GB and then get the Screamer unlimited 384k, will I still be able to use my MWEB email once I switch accounts on the router? or would I have to switch back to the MWEB account to use it?

Oh and with this account the ping to games.saix.net avergaes 26ms :D but doubt theres much difference between 26 and +- 70 when playing HoN :D

Thanks guys :D

You should receive your e-mail from any of your e-mail addresses no matter which ISP you use.

[digital]

OK.So i have sent in my application form for a uncapped account.Do i really need to wait for 2 working days to get it activated???

[CambodiaDave]

I "blame" Afrihost for this :D

Sorry, Digichilli, I'm getting Screamer!

We b1ame Afrihost too... :D

[Kosmik]

I'm relunctant to believe that statement. Contention is a black-art ISP dirty hack. To offer those types of prices, like DigiChilli, the line must be contented. I'm assuming high contention during peak, and low during offpeak. +- 100:1 peak and 50:1 offpeak.

I would love to know an official statement, but as all things in SA, the wool is ALWAYS pulled over the SA consumer, while we get shafted from behind without Vaseline and then made to believe this is as best as we can get it.

Anyway, still would like an official statement from screamer on contention ratios, so I can work out if its trully feasible to sign up with Screamer, or wait for the next dumbass ISP to come in and slash prices more and up the contention.

It is always your right to change to another isp if it becomes a problem. Irrespective of contention ratio, if I am paying for a line speed 24/7, I expect that line speed. If it had a bursting\extra segment that fluctuated due to contention etc, I would not be able to complain.

Don't let a ISP ever come back to me with contention issues and not being able to provide the service I pay for. They will be dropped instantly or at their latest billing cycle.

[gregmcc]

I think we need a FAQ on the first page :)

[Jazzy_SA]

It is unshaped.

I just want to clear up the pro rata question.

The unlimited accounts charges are prorated from the time you receive your login to the last day of the month.

The capped/data bundle packages are not because we don't know how much of your cap you are going to download..So if we buy 10G and we don't use all of it it doesn't carry over to the next month? Sucks! :eek:

[saffakanera]

Thats assuming you get a true 384kbits service, and not just a nice contented minimum of 384/50 kbits ;-)

Anyway, would love to see screamer take on a few accounts, and gather how bad the service gets over time. There must be reasons why IS (having seacom and a larger infrastructure) have not dropped prices below R20 per GB.

Anyway, just my thoughts. I hope it works out thou... I wonder who the next contender will be to bring in sub R20 per GB costs.. Come on Guys!!!

Listen here man, at R23 per GIG the ratio can be 1000:1, seriously, I mean, SERIOUSLY.

[Terrabiticfossilite]

For R100 extra I can get chilli's package which includes two concurrent connections. I think I will test Chilli's package before I throw myself at this one. In the case of chilli, two friends can share costs and end up paying R250 each for unlimited and get full line speed when the system allows...

There is the chance chilli will be able to do load balancing with channel bonding on a DD-WRT v24 SP2 box... I'll test that first... but...

So far it's chilli I think....

[saffakanera]

So if we buy 10G and we don't use all of it it doesn't carry over to the next month? Sucks! :eek:

lol, you can just use the NEXT 10 gigs you have! haha

[Terrabiticfossilite]

So if we buy 10G and we don't use all of it it doesn't carry over to the next month? Sucks! :eek:

It's not prepaid bandwidth afaik... anyone you know offering prepaid with carry over at that price?

[getafix33]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapper123 View Post
So then if you have a line with Telkom how do you get Seacom bandwidth? I'm very confused about that...
You rent the ADSL line from Telkom. You then use this line to connect to Screamer Telecoms, who get their bandwidth from SEACOM and pass it on to you. You pay Telkom for the line and Screamer for the internet bandwidth.

Clear it up?

As far as I understand, this is LLU in a nutshell. Telkom still holds you by the short and curly's - but this is a big step in the right direction. Imagine the possibilities if all ISP's had access to the local loop?

[Shred]

Bye bye Vodacom, I am getting WiMax from Screamer :)

[Kraai2009]

@Howzit

The wimax deals came down also on your website, I love it, very good pricing on that as well.

Is the per gig wimax deals also unshaped 24/7?
There is no pricing on wimax per gig deals for linespeeds greater than 512 lines, where shall I get those prices?

[twiga]

As far as I understand, this is LLU in a nutshell. Telkom still holds you by the short and curly's - but this is a big step in the right direction. Imagine the possibilities if all ISP's had access to the local loop?

Which won't be soon I reckon. Deadline for LLU to be completed is 2011. That is two years from now. I will not be surprised if Telkom hasn't done anything to comply by that date.

It will most probably be cheaper for them to simply pay the penalties than open up the local loop...

[nictron]

I still want the following:

Line rental + 4Mb ADSL + 5GB truly unshaped data for R300 pm.

That to me would be real progress.

We are halfway there:

Telkom Line Rental = R118
4Mb ADSL = R 413 (Totally overpriced, I still don't know why advertise it like this if you are forced to pay for the line rental!)
5 GB from Screamer = R 115

Total: R646