Stephen
18-02-2010, 09:36 AM
What is sad if its true, that the IPL starts when Supersport Series resumes, so i guess JP wont be getting much needed practice
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Devill
18-02-2010, 09:39 AM
AB has to be keeper to be in the team, I think a few years back he could have said "He wanted to concentrate on his batting" but atm he can't even score runs or keep behind the wickets... So he'll just have to do both okay'ish... Duminy should be given a rest, he isn't performing at all...
How is the weather looking ;) Maybe the rain gods will be on our side for a change...
What about that turkey AB Devilliers???
Yes AB has been underperforming but if we can keep guys like prince and Duminy on then AB is looking like The Don.
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
How is the weather looking ;) Maybe the rain gods will be on our side for a change...
What about that turkey AB Devilliers???
Yes AB has been underperforming but if we can keep guys like prince and Duminy on then AB is looking like The Don.
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
alf101
18-02-2010, 09:40 AM
I dont hate the proteas. I want to support SA since I am a 3rd generation south african but the team and team selections is so racially biased its not funny.
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
....!
That is rubbish dude.
Seriously.
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
....!
That is rubbish dude.
Seriously.
alf101
18-02-2010, 09:42 AM
Yes AB has been underperforming but if we can keep guys like prince and Duminy on then AB is looking like The Don.
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
In Prince's defense, he has been screwed over for Duminy's sake.
And Peterson has only had one game - lets not get carried away.
He'll be worked out soon. (by bowlers, that is)
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
In Prince's defense, he has been screwed over for Duminy's sake.
And Peterson has only had one game - lets not get carried away.
He'll be worked out soon. (by bowlers, that is)
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 09:42 AM
Yes AB has been underperforming but if we can keep guys like prince and Duminy on then AB is looking like The Don.
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
I was referring to AB.
In my opinion you bacon eating sausage head, I think all three should be dropped.
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
Lets look at Dale Steyn: 7; 0; 47; 3; 26; 1*; 1*; 0*; 5; 1 (Average: 13.0)
Tell me again how AB is not good enough please.
Drop Prince, Insert Peterson.
Mamajyot: Either your blind or plain stupid.
Never knew prince and JP were white....
Mamajyot you are a racist.
I was referring to AB.
In my opinion you bacon eating sausage head, I think all three should be dropped.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 09:42 AM
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
I am not sure why people are having a go at AB, look at prince and duminy compared, duminy and prince look like our tail, in fact our tail looks slightly better. We may as well just add another 2 bowlers in for them, we would have more of an attack and our batting line up would not be weaker. Get rid of prince and duminy FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excess baggage.
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
I am not sure why people are having a go at AB, look at prince and duminy compared, duminy and prince look like our tail, in fact our tail looks slightly better. We may as well just add another 2 bowlers in for them, we would have more of an attack and our batting line up would not be weaker. Get rid of prince and duminy FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excess baggage.
Devill
18-02-2010, 09:46 AM
I was referring to AB.
In my opinion you bacon eating sausage head, I think all three should be dropped.
ROFL. So give me 1 player that you will play instead of AB.
You are not very good at maths hay? Eish Mamajyot Malema will be your new name.
Learn to count.
You are a blatant racist.
In my opinion you bacon eating sausage head, I think all three should be dropped.
ROFL. So give me 1 player that you will play instead of AB.
You are not very good at maths hay? Eish Mamajyot Malema will be your new name.
Learn to count.
You are a blatant racist.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 09:46 AM
Parnell is already on his highest score, we will need something spectacular if we want to draw this...
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 09:51 AM
AB's last 10 innings: 32; 64; 50; 2; 36; 34; 58; 53; 12; 3. (Average: 34.4)
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
I am not sure why people are having a go at AB, look at prince and duminy compared, duminy and prince look like our tail, in fact our tail looks slightly better. We may as well just add another 2 bowlers in for them, we would have more of an attack and our batting line up would not be weaker. Get rid of prince and duminy FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excess baggage.
Unlike you I think people should play on merit only.
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
Funny how he has not really failed. Scoring 2 x 50 in 2 tests is not really failure imo.
Lets look at duminy: 56; 11; 4; 0; 0; 36; 7; 9; 0; 6 (average:12.9)
Ashwell Prince: 45; 0; 2; 16; 0; 15; 19; 0; 1; 23 (Average: 12.1)
I am not sure why people are having a go at AB, look at prince and duminy compared, duminy and prince look like our tail, in fact our tail looks slightly better. We may as well just add another 2 bowlers in for them, we would have more of an attack and our batting line up would not be weaker. Get rid of prince and duminy FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excess baggage.
Unlike you I think people should play on merit only.
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
R13...
18-02-2010, 09:52 AM
Parnell is already on his highest score, we will need something spectacular if we want to draw this...
You mean a miracle...:)
You mean a miracle...:)
Stephen
18-02-2010, 09:54 AM
I dont hate the proteas. I want to support SA since I am a 3rd generation south african but the team and team selections is so racially biased its not funny.
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
I support Bafana and the rugby team but this cricket team I will never support!
That is bull.
I have always felt that these people who always protest because of the make up of the team, is just as bad or worse than what that they protesting against. It actually shows intolerance in a big way.
Must I not support Bafana Bafana because most of the players are black
If a white player is out of form people turn a blind eye.........
I support Bafana and the rugby team but this cricket team I will never support!
That is bull.
I have always felt that these people who always protest because of the make up of the team, is just as bad or worse than what that they protesting against. It actually shows intolerance in a big way.
Must I not support Bafana Bafana because most of the players are black
killadoob
18-02-2010, 09:55 AM
Unlike you I think people should play on merit only.
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
Dude take your racist bs and shove it, you are not white shame i feel sorry for you. It must affect you badly when go out in public or is there a reason you mention that you are not white as if we give a F.
I could not care what colour prince and duminy are they are useless. They could be snow white with a sprinkle of black and i would say the same thing.
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
Dude take your racist bs and shove it, you are not white shame i feel sorry for you. It must affect you badly when go out in public or is there a reason you mention that you are not white as if we give a F.
I could not care what colour prince and duminy are they are useless. They could be snow white with a sprinkle of black and i would say the same thing.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 09:56 AM
Dude take your racist bs and shove it, you are not white shame i feel sorry for you. It must affect you badly when go out in public or is there a reason you mention that you are not as if we give a F
I could not care what colour prince and duminy are they are useless. They could be snow white with a sprinkle of black and i would say the same thing.
Why not complain how useless ab is?
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
I could not care what colour prince and duminy are they are useless. They could be snow white with a sprinkle of black and i would say the same thing.
Why not complain how useless ab is?
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
alf101
18-02-2010, 09:57 AM
Why not complain how useless ab is?
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
U miss the regular Biff-bashing, or Harris-can't-spin-it that happens here?
Lol
You're a moron in any race group then..
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
U miss the regular Biff-bashing, or Harris-can't-spin-it that happens here?
Lol
You're a moron in any race group then..
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 09:57 AM
Amla gets his hundred
sox63
18-02-2010, 09:58 AM
I predict this thread closing soon...
R13...
18-02-2010, 09:58 AM
I think the selectors should preserve with Prince he's been batting/sulking out of position since his return. Give him a fair chance to re-establish his form. This is the first test he's back in the middle order and everyone, but Amla has failed. Drop kick JP outta here though;)
R13...
18-02-2010, 09:59 AM
Amla gets his hundred
Well deserved too... They should fine the other lot 100% of their match fees and give it to Amla. Only the batters.
Well deserved too... They should fine the other lot 100% of their match fees and give it to Amla. Only the batters.
sox63
18-02-2010, 10:00 AM
I dont get Dhoni, he takes the new ball, Sharma has a catch dropped, and now has spin at both ends?
Rustum
18-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Good job, bearded one, God's batsmen...
Devill
18-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Unlike you I think people should play on merit only.
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
Clearly you know little to nothing about cricket if you think scoring 4 x 50 in 10 innings is "drop" worthy.
Why are you not calling for prince and Duminy's heads?
Not race. I find it strange when people pick on the non whites non performing and not the whites non performing.
Being a non white I can tell you thats why people like me and their are 1000's who will support India,Pakistan,West Indies when they tour here.
Just check the Indian support when they tour here in December.....
You will be quite shocked.
No my friend, you may think i'm racist and you're entitled to your opinion.
Clearly you know little to nothing about cricket if you think scoring 4 x 50 in 10 innings is "drop" worthy.
Why are you not calling for prince and Duminy's heads?
Stephen
18-02-2010, 10:03 AM
Well done Amla pure class - showed how its done. Man of the series easy choice
poffle
18-02-2010, 10:04 AM
Why not complain how useless ab is?
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
Did you not see the stats posted above ffs? an average of 33 over last 10 compared to 12 and 12. ****ing look man
Thats why I think you have racist bias against non whites.
Did you not see the stats posted above ffs? an average of 33 over last 10 compared to 12 and 12. ****ing look man
alf101
18-02-2010, 10:04 AM
39 overs to go.
10 can be lost for bad light.
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10 can be lost for bad light.
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phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 10:04 AM
Mamajyout, I think the cricket team picks on merit and I am also non white.
Read this article about Hashim Amla and what other knowledgeable Indians think about the race situation.
http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/447901.html
Cricket from school level does do its part to promote cricket to all races and I think they are doing extremely well. The fact of the matter is AB is going through a slump, but he is not performing as bad as Prince (who I have sympathy with) and Duminy. On this forum they continually bash Harris - who I think deserves his place in the team too - and other bowlers and batsmen of all races.
Please look at the facts and discuss it, rather than arguing on emotion.
Read this article about Hashim Amla and what other knowledgeable Indians think about the race situation.
http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/447901.html
Cricket from school level does do its part to promote cricket to all races and I think they are doing extremely well. The fact of the matter is AB is going through a slump, but he is not performing as bad as Prince (who I have sympathy with) and Duminy. On this forum they continually bash Harris - who I think deserves his place in the team too - and other bowlers and batsmen of all races.
Please look at the facts and discuss it, rather than arguing on emotion.
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Why not complain how useless ab is?
This is all in your head.
Because the statistics prove that lately he has scored about three times as many runs as Prince and Duminy.
You need to stop being so narrow minded.
Also, did you miss the posts where people suggested replacing them with players of colour?
This is all in your head.
Because the statistics prove that lately he has scored about three times as many runs as Prince and Duminy.
You need to stop being so narrow minded.
Also, did you miss the posts where people suggested replacing them with players of colour?
sox63
18-02-2010, 10:08 AM
Great century again from Amla, surely going to be one of the greats of SA batting?
This after he was left out of the side for a long time to work on his technique issues. Its something Duminy should take note of. As for Prince, the man should be given a chance to bat in his chosen position in the middle order, now that his "replacement" is not working out too well, and Peterson has shown himself up the task, and is a specialist top order bat.
This after he was left out of the side for a long time to work on his technique issues. Its something Duminy should take note of. As for Prince, the man should be given a chance to bat in his chosen position in the middle order, now that his "replacement" is not working out too well, and Peterson has shown himself up the task, and is a specialist top order bat.
Devill
18-02-2010, 10:12 AM
39 overs to go.
10 can be lost for bad light.
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Shhhhhhh damnit! :p
Hope Parnell shows what he showed batting wise when he played for SA u/21. He was rated as an all rounder.
\\ Hats off to Amla!
I love that he is now in the ODI team... he should have been there from the start!
10 can be lost for bad light.
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Shhhhhhh damnit! :p
Hope Parnell shows what he showed batting wise when he played for SA u/21. He was rated as an all rounder.
\\ Hats off to Amla!
I love that he is now in the ODI team... he should have been there from the start!
killadoob
18-02-2010, 10:13 AM
So close but still i think india are heavy favorites to get the job done.
silkman
18-02-2010, 10:19 AM
What get's me about AB is that he has expressed his desire not to keep cos he wants to be a better batsman .So personal ambition overrides team success? Who the hell does he think he is ?
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 10:21 AM
I am confused, what is wrong with ab wanting to take boucher's gloves when he retires? Great idea i think. What is wrong with that though?
paddy_za
18-02-2010, 10:24 AM
What get's me about AB is that he has expressed his desire not to keep cos he wants to be a better batsman .So personal ambition overrides team success? Who the hell does he think he is ?
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
And drop Boucher? Are you being serious?
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
And drop Boucher? Are you being serious?
alf101
18-02-2010, 10:24 AM
What get's me about AB is that he has expressed his desire not to keep cos he wants to be a better batsman .So personal ambition overrides team success? Who the hell does he think he is ?
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
Perhaps he isn't a great keeper.
Have a look at Alec Stewart's career as keeper and not as keeper.
Also at which positions he batted.
If he keeps SA have an extra specialist in the team. Why is he allowed to get away with it? the old boy's club conspiracy theory does have merits.
Perhaps he isn't a great keeper.
Have a look at Alec Stewart's career as keeper and not as keeper.
Also at which positions he batted.
silkman
18-02-2010, 10:25 AM
And drop Boucher? Are you being serious?
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 10:28 AM
Going to do some work now(make tea).......
Parnell looking good!
Parnell looking good!
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 10:28 AM
Are there any really good young keeper/batsmen in our domestic league that can replace Boucher when the time comes?
Stephen
18-02-2010, 10:29 AM
Are there any really good young keeper/batsmen in our domestic league that can replace Boucher when the time comes?
Heino Kuhn (excuse the spelling)
Heino Kuhn (excuse the spelling)
alf101
18-02-2010, 10:29 AM
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
You mean like Pakistan's keeper who got dropped.
Unluckiest dismissal in cricket = caught Akmal.
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
You mean like Pakistan's keeper who got dropped.
Unluckiest dismissal in cricket = caught Akmal.
sox63
18-02-2010, 10:30 AM
Well, we made it to tea. I have hope...
Devill
18-02-2010, 10:32 AM
I am confused, what is wrong with ab wanting to take boucher's gloves when he retires? Great idea i think. What is wrong with that though?
AB said he does not want to. He wants to be a specialist batsman. I feel that if he is good enough to get picked as solely a specialist batsman then why should he keep? I would have kept if I was him to cement my place in the team for the next 10 years :p:D
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
Well Kuhn will take over from Boucher in the next year or two I think. Kuhn is turning into a bloody good batsman.
AB said he does not want to. He wants to be a specialist batsman. I feel that if he is good enough to get picked as solely a specialist batsman then why should he keep? I would have kept if I was him to cement my place in the team for the next 10 years :p:D
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
Well Kuhn will take over from Boucher in the next year or two I think. Kuhn is turning into a bloody good batsman.
OzzieCapie
18-02-2010, 10:34 AM
Prince and Duminy may be playing very badly, but AB is overrated and playing on some hyped reputation.
I posted a while back about the technical deficiencies...it always gets found out. Amla has worked on his (mind you he is playing on his favourite sort of pitches), I also posted a while back that Duminy's exploits in Aus may have been one off's of an unseen batter. So Prince had to give way, then out of position etc.
Lets look at the stats: If your top 6 batsmen averaged only 40, then your average score per match after 6 wickets down will be 240 plus the tail, approx 300. That is never enough to win matches.
When the aussies were on top they were all batting at or above 50. Ditto SA during 2008 only.
Anyone that averages under 40 for a length of time has to be carried by the others and after a while need to make way for someone, otherwise by continuing to carry them as passengers when other batsmen are in similar situation then you face the situation they have now with three guys averaging a combined approx 20...then what do you do, because suddenly the bloke averaging 33 doesn't look so bad on his own and you can't afford to bring three new batsmen in at same time.
You need to act quick on the technical deficiencies before the bus is full of passengers
cheers
I posted a while back about the technical deficiencies...it always gets found out. Amla has worked on his (mind you he is playing on his favourite sort of pitches), I also posted a while back that Duminy's exploits in Aus may have been one off's of an unseen batter. So Prince had to give way, then out of position etc.
Lets look at the stats: If your top 6 batsmen averaged only 40, then your average score per match after 6 wickets down will be 240 plus the tail, approx 300. That is never enough to win matches.
When the aussies were on top they were all batting at or above 50. Ditto SA during 2008 only.
Anyone that averages under 40 for a length of time has to be carried by the others and after a while need to make way for someone, otherwise by continuing to carry them as passengers when other batsmen are in similar situation then you face the situation they have now with three guys averaging a combined approx 20...then what do you do, because suddenly the bloke averaging 33 doesn't look so bad on his own and you can't afford to bring three new batsmen in at same time.
You need to act quick on the technical deficiencies before the bus is full of passengers
cheers
killadoob
18-02-2010, 10:35 AM
No i agree but having him as boucher's replacement would be awesome i think, open another spot up in the team for a specialist bowler or batsmen. So it could work very well. I hope it happens.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 10:36 AM
Hope bad light come in to play again. This is going to be tough, but Parnell is looking solid except for a few loose shots.
paddy_za
18-02-2010, 10:37 AM
yes...
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
Who? Boucher adds way more value in terms of experience and character. If Boucher was playing today he would be capable of batting out the innings. Think about it..
The lesser keeping abilities of AB will be more than made up by a specialist bowler/batsman
Who? Boucher adds way more value in terms of experience and character. If Boucher was playing today he would be capable of batting out the innings. Think about it..
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 10:43 AM
Yes Boucher help us out a few times already and in the English test he also stood up. Boucher is still in my opinion the best wicketkeeper in the world.
Devill
18-02-2010, 10:46 AM
Yes Boucher help us out a few times already and in the English test he also stood up. Boucher is still in my opinion the best wicketkeeper in the world.
Jip same here. He has underperformed (Like pollock) with the bat a bit Imo. But his experience and temperament is awesome to have in the team.
Jip same here. He has underperformed (Like pollock) with the bat a bit Imo. But his experience and temperament is awesome to have in the team.
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 10:59 AM
No i agree but having him as boucher's replacement would be awesome i think, open another spot up in the team for a specialist bowler or batsmen. So it could work very well. I hope it happens.
IMO you can't beat a specialist keeper. AB missed quite a few chances in this match, and while he may get better, it will take a while. I'd rather have him in the field, where he's already good.
IMO you can't beat a specialist keeper. AB missed quite a few chances in this match, and while he may get better, it will take a while. I'd rather have him in the field, where he's already good.
Devill
18-02-2010, 11:01 AM
102.2
Sharma to Parnell, OUT, 134.7 kph
WD Parnell c Harbhajan Singh b Sharma 22 (64b 4x4 0x6) SR: 34.37
Fsck :mad:
Sharma to Parnell, OUT, 134.7 kph
WD Parnell c Harbhajan Singh b Sharma 22 (64b 4x4 0x6) SR: 34.37
Fsck :mad:
sand_man
18-02-2010, 11:03 AM
I prefer to look at a batsman's stats and performance holistically. On that basis both AB and Prince are there on merit and merit alone. 43 and 42 average respectively is more than adequate. Again, it is imperative for the coaches and selectors to persist with them.
AB will replace Boucher as wicket keeper ultimately. I doubt Mark has more than 2-3 seasons left in International cricket...
As for JP patience gents, patience...
AB will replace Boucher as wicket keeper ultimately. I doubt Mark has more than 2-3 seasons left in International cricket...
As for JP patience gents, patience...
Devill
18-02-2010, 11:04 AM
Sharma to Harris, no run, 140.0 kph, Four slips, leg gully, short leg, very short mid-on and a shortish mid-off crowd Harris who defends out to the off side
Lol, having a tea party around harris :p:D
Lol, having a tea party around harris :p:D
paddy_za
18-02-2010, 11:07 AM
One over at a time, boys..
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 11:15 AM
I would be so pissed off if I was Amla right now. The guy needs some support. One person can't save a test. He is surrounded by chokers.
Devill
18-02-2010, 11:20 AM
Jip if only someone like Prince/Duminy/AB/Kallis have stayed on long enough :(
R13...
18-02-2010, 11:23 AM
And by long enough we mean like an extra hour even half an hour would have made a diff.
sand_man
18-02-2010, 11:37 AM
I would be so pissed off if I was Amla right now. The guy needs some support. One person can't save a test. He is surrounded by chokers.Agreed. Amla is the epitome of the perfect sportsman and gentlemen though. All he is thinking right now is saving this test for his team and country.
I love the fact that he walks when out without waiting for the umpire. Speaks volumes about his character. I wonder if he would walk now if he were out??!!! He probably would... How can anyone have anything other than the greatest respect for this man??!!!
I love the fact that he walks when out without waiting for the umpire. Speaks volumes about his character. I wonder if he would walk now if he were out??!!! He probably would... How can anyone have anything other than the greatest respect for this man??!!!
Rustum
18-02-2010, 11:39 AM
One should really look at the spectacular 1st innings collapse, from Kallis down, if one is going to engage in 'if only'...
Devill
18-02-2010, 11:40 AM
110.5
Sharma to Harris, OUT, 132.3 kph, Eden Gardens roars. Nay screams in delight. Ishant lets out a scream too. It was a length delivery that straightened outside off stump, Harris pushed out at it and got a thick edge which has been swallowed by Dinesh karthik at third slip. What buzz around this great historical venue.
PL Harris c sub (KD Karthik) b Sharma 4 (24b 1x4 0x6) SR: 16.66
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sharma to Harris, OUT, 132.3 kph, Eden Gardens roars. Nay screams in delight. Ishant lets out a scream too. It was a length delivery that straightened outside off stump, Harris pushed out at it and got a thick edge which has been swallowed by Dinesh karthik at third slip. What buzz around this great historical venue.
PL Harris c sub (KD Karthik) b Sharma 4 (24b 1x4 0x6) SR: 16.66
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 11:42 AM
I would be so pissed off if I was Amla right now. The guy needs some support. One person can't save a test. He is surrounded by chokers.
I think that last part says it all.
I think that last part says it all.
Bizkit87
18-02-2010, 11:43 AM
all is lost :(
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 11:51 AM
It was lost back when the top and middle orders crumpled like a Fiat Uno hitting a MAC Truck at 60mph.
Khanya
18-02-2010, 12:01 PM
Hope Amla and Morkel can save the match.
marco79
18-02-2010, 12:05 PM
I wonder if Amla will get any sort of support during this entire tour.
marco79
18-02-2010, 12:06 PM
How many overs left?
Bizkit87
18-02-2010, 12:07 PM
How many overs left?
give or take 3 hours
15 ovrs/hour [prob more with the spinners]
so 45+ overs?
give or take 3 hours
15 ovrs/hour [prob more with the spinners]
so 45+ overs?
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:08 PM
15 overs left. Probably another hour or so.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 12:08 PM
give or take 3 hours
15 ovrs/hour [prob more with the spinners]
so 45+ overs?
I think you are a bit off
15 ovrs/hour [prob more with the spinners]
so 45+ overs?
I think you are a bit off
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:10 PM
cricinfo says 14 left.
R13...
18-02-2010, 12:12 PM
And the bad light's being bad not coming as expected.
paddy_za
18-02-2010, 12:12 PM
It says MIN overs left
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:14 PM
It says MIN overs left
Said that during England's tour here too, but they only played until the minimum was up. So I'll be peed off if we make it and they decide to go beyond that.
Said that during England's tour here too, but they only played until the minimum was up. So I'll be peed off if we make it and they decide to go beyond that.
marco79
18-02-2010, 12:17 PM
It seems as if Amla, the light and rain were the only things playing their part.
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:25 PM
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, no run, drama! flighted loopy delivery, slower through the air, Morne is beaten in the flight, chips it in the air but it goes well wide of mid-off. The crowd thought it was going to hands. Amla gets across to have a chat
Come on boys keep it together!
Come on boys keep it together!
Bizkit87
18-02-2010, 12:27 PM
I think you are a bit off
haha, just had a look at the time..... oops
haha, just had a look at the time..... oops
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:31 PM
123.6
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, no run, what drama! It was a flighted delivery outside off stump, Morne goes for a slightly expansive drive, perhaps out of pressure, and misses it. The ball grips the surface and turns to Laxman at first slip! The Indians appeal for a catch but no bat involved. The bat had hit the ground. THe ball had flown off the rought
:eek:
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, no run, what drama! It was a flighted delivery outside off stump, Morne goes for a slightly expansive drive, perhaps out of pressure, and misses it. The ball grips the surface and turns to Laxman at first slip! The Indians appeal for a catch but no bat involved. The bat had hit the ground. THe ball had flown off the rought
:eek:
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:33 PM
Yeah that was a close one, I thought it was out after seeing it in real-time.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 12:34 PM
OMW we can do it!!!!!!!!! just think england every time they see a ball coming at them to get some inspiration.
sox63
18-02-2010, 12:35 PM
I cant take the slow refresh on Cricinfo!! :mad:
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 12:35 PM
I hate these situations where the last wicket gives you a tiny amount of hope only to have it crushed right at the end.
If anyone thinks I'm being pessimistic that is why.
If anyone thinks I'm being pessimistic that is why.
Bizkit87
18-02-2010, 12:35 PM
I cant take the slow refresh on Cricinfo!! :mad:
haha, same here....
haha, same here....
alternate
18-02-2010, 12:38 PM
283 - 9
36 balls to go!
36 balls to go!
killadoob
18-02-2010, 12:38 PM
I hate these situations where the last wicket gives you a tiny amount of hope holy to have it crushed right at the end.
If anyone thinks I'm being pessimistic that is why.
No me as well but there is hope since the rain helped us and it is all we cling onto now :D. Maybe for once the rain will help us. Geez if he loses his wicket in the last over i will be gutted :(.
If anyone thinks I'm being pessimistic that is why.
No me as well but there is hope since the rain helped us and it is all we cling onto now :D. Maybe for once the rain will help us. Geez if he loses his wicket in the last over i will be gutted :(.
AirWolf
18-02-2010, 12:38 PM
haha, same here....
1 billion people taking their toll on Cricinfo:wtf:
1 billion people taking their toll on Cricinfo:wtf:
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:39 PM
Check out one of the video streams if you don't want to read Cricinfo
http://webcric.com/
http://webcric.com/
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 12:43 PM
Bad light. Bad light. Bad light.
I have only been able to watch on cricinfo but can we all agree that this inning of Amla's needs to go down as one of the greatest in South African history?
I have only been able to watch on cricinfo but can we all agree that this inning of Amla's needs to go down as one of the greatest in South African history?
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:44 PM
128.2
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, no run, 87.2 kph, dropped by Dhoni. Very difficult chance though. It was just outside off stump, straightening, Morne was shaping to leave it and it runs of the bat-face and hits Dhoni's right knee .. gloves were nowhere in the frame. What drama.
:eek:
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, no run, 87.2 kph, dropped by Dhoni. Very difficult chance though. It was just outside off stump, straightening, Morne was shaping to leave it and it runs of the bat-face and hits Dhoni's right knee .. gloves were nowhere in the frame. What drama.
:eek:
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 12:44 PM
Morkel DROPPED by Dhoni off Singh!
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:45 PM
They're talking crap, it wasn't dropped. It hit the bat and went on to hit the lower part of Dhoni's pad.
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:45 PM
Bad light. Bad light. Bad light.
I have only been able to watch on cricinfo but can we all agree that this inning of Amla's needs to go down as one of the greatest in South African history?
+1. He is shaping up to be our next premier batsman. And I love it as he can play every single shot and can concentrate for long periods.
I have only been able to watch on cricinfo but can we all agree that this inning of Amla's needs to go down as one of the greatest in South African history?
+1. He is shaping up to be our next premier batsman. And I love it as he can play every single shot and can concentrate for long periods.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 12:49 PM
Not shaping he is, at this moment in time we have one guy we can rely on and that is amla. Hopefully morkel as well :D.
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:51 PM
129.5
Tendulkar to Amla, no run, More drama! Sehwag kicks the ball away to the boundary! slightly short in length and outside off stump and Amla punched it off the back foot and the ball stops just near the boundary. Now the drama begins! Sehwag who was after the ball leans to kick it away over the boundary! The umpires get on walkie talkie and talk ,. And talk.
WTF?
Tendulkar to Amla, no run, More drama! Sehwag kicks the ball away to the boundary! slightly short in length and outside off stump and Amla punched it off the back foot and the ball stops just near the boundary. Now the drama begins! Sehwag who was after the ball leans to kick it away over the boundary! The umpires get on walkie talkie and talk ,. And talk.
WTF?
lilggg
18-02-2010, 12:54 PM
**** OUT!!
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 12:54 PM
Nooooooooooooo :(
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 12:56 PM
What? CricInfo doesn't want to refresh
Rustum
18-02-2010, 12:56 PM
Amla looks gutted; after that monumental innings (and tour for him)...
Devill
18-02-2010, 12:56 PM
131.3
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, OUT
M Morkel lbw b Harbhajan Singh 12 (60b 3x4 0x6) SR: 20.00
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Harbhajan Singh to Morkel, OUT
M Morkel lbw b Harbhajan Singh 12 (60b 3x4 0x6) SR: 20.00
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
killadoob
18-02-2010, 12:56 PM
:( well we gave it an epic try.
2 farkin overs left :(
2 farkin overs left :(
crashi
18-02-2010, 12:56 PM
Im sorry but I won't watch another game if Duminy and Prince are still in the side. Total failures
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 12:57 PM
Nooooooo
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 12:57 PM
Morkel is out. It's over.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 12:57 PM
Im sorry but I won't watch another game if Duminy and Prince are still in the side. Total failures
Yea i won't be that extreme but they need to F off :(. 25 runs between them in 4 innings is nothing short of retarded.
Yea i won't be that extreme but they need to F off :(. 25 runs between them in 4 innings is nothing short of retarded.
zoopy3
18-02-2010, 01:00 PM
SA choke once again... we need to drop prince and dumini off the team
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 01:00 PM
I can only imagine how Amla must feel.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 01:01 PM
:( well we gave it an epic try.
2 farkin overs left :(
It would have been more than 2 overs, they use time 1.09pm
Well done Amla, hard like Morkel it wasnt your job, the batters let them down
2 farkin overs left :(
It would have been more than 2 overs, they use time 1.09pm
Well done Amla, hard like Morkel it wasnt your job, the batters let them down
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 01:01 PM
Don't just blame Prince and Duminy. The entire team except for Amla just gave up.
Vis1/0N
18-02-2010, 01:01 PM
Yea i won't be that extreme but they need to F off :(. 25 runs between them in 4 innings is nothing short of retarded.
Meet me at JHB international with the pitchfork and torches?
Or will they fly to Zimbabwe, and quietly slip over the border into SA?
Meet me at JHB international with the pitchfork and torches?
Or will they fly to Zimbabwe, and quietly slip over the border into SA?
Bizkit87
18-02-2010, 01:02 PM
was the lbw at least out? no funny things?
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:02 PM
What is it with all the tests being so dramatic this year?
Stephen
18-02-2010, 01:02 PM
SA choke once again... we need to drop prince and dumini off the team
Ah that word, I think its becoming the most wrongly used word ever.
Ah that word, I think its becoming the most wrongly used word ever.
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 01:03 PM
SA choke once again... we need to drop prince and dumini off the team
They were never in a winning position so they didn't choke. They just played crap from the start.
They were never in a winning position so they didn't choke. They just played crap from the start.
Devill
18-02-2010, 01:03 PM
What is it with all the tests being so dramatic this year?
I am loving it.
Some nail biters from all over in the last 3-4 months!
I am loving it.
Some nail biters from all over in the last 3-4 months!
killadoob
18-02-2010, 01:04 PM
Brendan 2 players who keep getting picked made 25 runs in 4 innings. I think a lot of blame is on their shoulders. they averaged 6 in this game, not one both of them.
Some other did not perform they have consistently not performing from the england tour into this one.
Time for some new blood, we cannot keep holding onto ducks and 1's from players who are suppose to the cream of the crop.
Yea just a pity most fo the nail biters have ended poorly for us :(
Some other did not perform they have consistently not performing from the england tour into this one.
Time for some new blood, we cannot keep holding onto ducks and 1's from players who are suppose to the cream of the crop.
Yea just a pity most fo the nail biters have ended poorly for us :(
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:05 PM
Man of the series award must definitely go to Amla. This would have gone as one of our best drawn test ever if we managed to pull it off.
Drop Duminy for the next test and leave Prince batting at 6/7
Drop Duminy for the next test and leave Prince batting at 6/7
Devill
18-02-2010, 01:06 PM
Brendan 2 players who keep getting picked made 25 runs in 4 innings. I think a lot of blame is on their shoulders. they averaged 6 in this game, not one both of them.
Some other did not perform they have consistently not performing from the england tour into this one.
Time for some new blood, we cannot keep holding onto ducks and 1's from players who are suppose to the cream of the crop.
Yea just a pity most fo the nail biters have ended poorly for us :(
I am saying replace duminy with Petersen and keep prince for another test in the mid-order.
Some other did not perform they have consistently not performing from the england tour into this one.
Time for some new blood, we cannot keep holding onto ducks and 1's from players who are suppose to the cream of the crop.
Yea just a pity most fo the nail biters have ended poorly for us :(
I am saying replace duminy with Petersen and keep prince for another test in the mid-order.
thriel
18-02-2010, 01:08 PM
ged rid of duminy and prince.
theratman
18-02-2010, 01:09 PM
So close,kudos to amla and morkel for almost getting the job done.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:10 PM
I am loving it.
Some nail biters from all over in the last 3-4 months!
Ja, it is really good for the game. But I feel so sad now, we lost all the nail biters.
Some nail biters from all over in the last 3-4 months!
Ja, it is really good for the game. But I feel so sad now, we lost all the nail biters.
Vercogen
18-02-2010, 01:10 PM
Amla is a legend, the rest of them pffft
D4N
18-02-2010, 01:10 PM
Awesome test even though we played poorly and lost, nail biting stuff. Well done to Amla, superb batting from him in this series
D4N
18-02-2010, 01:12 PM
was the lbw at least out? no funny things?
Ja, solid decision from the umpire
Ja, solid decision from the umpire
sox63
18-02-2010, 01:12 PM
It seems Cricinfo has crashed... :D
killadoob
18-02-2010, 01:13 PM
Ja, it is really good for the game. But I feel so sad now, we lost all the nail biters.
Shows how we have no mental strength but we know that. England may draw a lot but you can be sure they will 9/10 times hold out. 10/10 you know we won't :(.
Shows how we have no mental strength but we know that. England may draw a lot but you can be sure they will 9/10 times hold out. 10/10 you know we won't :(.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:16 PM
Ja, but we almost did it this time, someone just had to hang in there with Amla.
Ja, cricinfo crashed - I wanted to see who is man of the series etc.
Ja, cricinfo crashed - I wanted to see who is man of the series etc.
CodeMaster
18-02-2010, 01:17 PM
I still think the boys did pretty well to draw the series 1-1 in India.
We nailed them in the first game, they nailed us in the second.
Pity the #1 spot was at stake.
We nailed them in the first game, they nailed us in the second.
Pity the #1 spot was at stake.
sand_man
18-02-2010, 01:17 PM
Ja, but we almost did it this time, someone just had to hang in there with Amla.
Ja, cricinfo crashed - I wanted to see who is man of the series etc.Bunch of chokers at cricinfo....
Ja, cricinfo crashed - I wanted to see who is man of the series etc.Bunch of chokers at cricinfo....
sox63
18-02-2010, 01:18 PM
Oh well, now for the ODI series! The prospect of an Amla/Bosman opening pair is going to be interesting...
Stephen
18-02-2010, 01:22 PM
Oh dear Smith complimented his team - how Arrogant :rolleyes:
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:23 PM
Harbhajan Singh: "This was probably a better wicket than Nagpur.. We played fantastic cricket , the way we bowled on the first day and the way we batted. Today we just bowled with three bowlers but have done the job. Eden has been special to me. I don't know what it but I have done well here always. We wanted to be at the top of the table; we know we got the players to keep being No 1. We are very happy and it's fantastic to win the way we did. The heart was pumping in the end! My sister is getting married and so I won't be playing the first two ODI games. I want to wish my team well."
Hang on for quotes from the post-match ceremony
Graeme Smith: "It would have been terrific if we had hung around. England did it couple of times against us but credit must be given to MS an his boys. We should have batted better in the first innings. We then came and dropped a few catches. You have to give credit to all the boys for trying. The pitch (here) was still good. Batting on last day in India was always going to be difficult. Special words to Amla .. he has been outstanding through the series. He is become our glue at no 3. I don't think any of us have seen him play better. He has a calm mind and has been working very hard. Great to see it coming together for me. The last two trios to India ... I can't complain. We have drawn the series.. not every team can say that. Hopefully next time we come out here, we can go one step forward. But next India will be coming to South Africa later this year. They will want to win at our home and we want to do well. I would like to thank the crowd for all the support."
Man of the match and the Man of the series is Hashim Amla
Amla wins man of the match and series
Hang on for quotes from the post-match ceremony
Graeme Smith: "It would have been terrific if we had hung around. England did it couple of times against us but credit must be given to MS an his boys. We should have batted better in the first innings. We then came and dropped a few catches. You have to give credit to all the boys for trying. The pitch (here) was still good. Batting on last day in India was always going to be difficult. Special words to Amla .. he has been outstanding through the series. He is become our glue at no 3. I don't think any of us have seen him play better. He has a calm mind and has been working very hard. Great to see it coming together for me. The last two trios to India ... I can't complain. We have drawn the series.. not every team can say that. Hopefully next time we come out here, we can go one step forward. But next India will be coming to South Africa later this year. They will want to win at our home and we want to do well. I would like to thank the crowd for all the support."
Man of the match and the Man of the series is Hashim Amla
Amla wins man of the match and series
zoopy3
18-02-2010, 01:23 PM
Don't just blame Prince and Duminy. The entire team except for Amla just gave up.
Well done Amla!!! man of the match and series...
when was the last time that Prince and Dumini performed? ... they are batsmen for godsake, as a team they shouldn't be relying on the tail end to win a game. SA needs to sort out the top order, as for smith - he shouldn't have played in this match knowing he is injured.
Well done Amla!!! man of the match and series...
when was the last time that Prince and Dumini performed? ... they are batsmen for godsake, as a team they shouldn't be relying on the tail end to win a game. SA needs to sort out the top order, as for smith - he shouldn't have played in this match knowing he is injured.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Funny how all the recent memorable games include South Africa, I think there is something in our water
superskully
18-02-2010, 01:28 PM
I think its not fair on Prince as they changed him from a middle-order to opener (even in domestic level, he failed as an opener).
He was one of our top batsmen, but opening has taken his confidence away.
Duminy, like Kallis, Amla, Smith... needs to go back to domestic and grow from there. If he is still there the next test match, then it will be obvious what everyone is thinking, and possibly why Majola decided to become a selector.
Prince possibly also needs to go back to domestic to get confidence, but i think with his experience and a tour against a west indies should pick him up.
He was one of our top batsmen, but opening has taken his confidence away.
Duminy, like Kallis, Amla, Smith... needs to go back to domestic and grow from there. If he is still there the next test match, then it will be obvious what everyone is thinking, and possibly why Majola decided to become a selector.
Prince possibly also needs to go back to domestic to get confidence, but i think with his experience and a tour against a west indies should pick him up.
Aqua_lung
18-02-2010, 01:29 PM
So whoever said this will end in a draw, touche.
I was optimistic
I was optimistic
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 01:31 PM
Well it was just an over and a hlaf to go to a draw. Very close. I agree, Duminy should go back to domestic cricket before he is chosen again.
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 01:34 PM
Duminy was brought in to replace Prince in Aus. When Prince was fit again, he was forced to open to accommodate Duminy. He was therefore effectively forced out of form by being made to open.
Some of you guys seem to have forgotten how good Prince was in the middle order. I'd be inclined to leave Prince in the middle order and bring Peterson in to open. Duminy's still young so he'll make the squad again after regaining form at domestic level.
Duminy performed when he was given a chance because he knew he had to make a big impact to keep his place. Now that he knows he's an automatic choice, he seems to not care anymore.
Anyway I look forward to the test series against India in SA in December. Then we'll see how good the 'best' team really is.
Some of you guys seem to have forgotten how good Prince was in the middle order. I'd be inclined to leave Prince in the middle order and bring Peterson in to open. Duminy's still young so he'll make the squad again after regaining form at domestic level.
Duminy performed when he was given a chance because he knew he had to make a big impact to keep his place. Now that he knows he's an automatic choice, he seems to not care anymore.
Anyway I look forward to the test series against India in SA in December. Then we'll see how good the 'best' team really is.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Anyways on the bright side it kept aus in 3rd and we are still second and we drew 1-1 in india.
So even though we are not performing and it seems amla is our only big run scorer, pretty decent effort.
I was thinking surely with such out of form batsmen we are a weakened team? Thatis why we lost :D. India beat a weakened team. Ya now i feel better :D
Smooth watch duminy when he is getting big bucks in the pro 20 stuff. Prince i can agree maybe opening threw his confidence but there is no excuse for dumiies inclusion in our test squad.
So even though we are not performing and it seems amla is our only big run scorer, pretty decent effort.
I was thinking surely with such out of form batsmen we are a weakened team? Thatis why we lost :D. India beat a weakened team. Ya now i feel better :D
Smooth watch duminy when he is getting big bucks in the pro 20 stuff. Prince i can agree maybe opening threw his confidence but there is no excuse for dumiies inclusion in our test squad.
AMG133
18-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Hashim Amla is a trending topic on twitter, lol
superskully
18-02-2010, 01:46 PM
Anyways on the bright side it kept aus in 3rd and we are still second and we drew 1-1 in india.
So even though we are not performing and it seems amla is our only big run scorer, pretty decent effort.
I was thinking surely with such out of form batsmen we are a weakened team? Thatis why we lost :D. India beat a weakened team. Ya now i feel better :D
Smooth watch duminy when he is getting big bucks in the pro 20 stuff. Prince i can agree maybe opening threw his confidence but there is no excuse for dumiies inclusion in our test squad.
The SA team like to persist with youngsters before they axe them.
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
So even though we are not performing and it seems amla is our only big run scorer, pretty decent effort.
I was thinking surely with such out of form batsmen we are a weakened team? Thatis why we lost :D. India beat a weakened team. Ya now i feel better :D
Smooth watch duminy when he is getting big bucks in the pro 20 stuff. Prince i can agree maybe opening threw his confidence but there is no excuse for dumiies inclusion in our test squad.
The SA team like to persist with youngsters before they axe them.
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
JK8
18-02-2010, 01:49 PM
WooooHoooo India win and retain their number 1 ranking!!!! :D
Well done to Amla!!!!
It was only Steyn and Amla who won the first match!! The only 2 SA players I like!
Well done to Amla!!!!
It was only Steyn and Amla who won the first match!! The only 2 SA players I like!
JK8
18-02-2010, 01:51 PM
Man of the series award must definitely go to Amla. This would have gone as one of our best drawn test ever if we managed to pull it off.
Drop Duminy for the next test and leave Prince batting at 6/7
Dont be daft, JP can bowl, Prince can only bat...
Jp also drops catches, but still better than Prince... who btw scored the second highest in the second innings! :p
Drop Duminy for the next test and leave Prince batting at 6/7
Dont be daft, JP can bowl, Prince can only bat...
Jp also drops catches, but still better than Prince... who btw scored the second highest in the second innings! :p
superskully
18-02-2010, 01:52 PM
Oh dear Smith complimented his team - how Arrogant :rolleyes:
Guy, did u ever hear Britney Spears saying "she was saving herself for marriage", ever hear of Tiger woods...
So what they say in public is who they are behind the scenes.
When Smith became captain, he wanted Klusener out.
Whether Klusener was a bad person or not, Cronje used to get the best out of him.
Cronje was out best Captain, yet he was not the best player (on and off the field).
Maybe Kallis will release a biography later on and say Smith was the best captain and person as well, then i will say i was wrong, but now i look at the facts.
Guy, did u ever hear Britney Spears saying "she was saving herself for marriage", ever hear of Tiger woods...
So what they say in public is who they are behind the scenes.
When Smith became captain, he wanted Klusener out.
Whether Klusener was a bad person or not, Cronje used to get the best out of him.
Cronje was out best Captain, yet he was not the best player (on and off the field).
Maybe Kallis will release a biography later on and say Smith was the best captain and person as well, then i will say i was wrong, but now i look at the facts.
superskully
18-02-2010, 01:54 PM
WooooHoooo India win and retain their number 1 ranking!!!! :D
Well done to Amla!!!!
It was only Steyn and Amla who won the first match!! The only 2 SA players I like!
I would add Kallis to that as he is best player of our time. Pity his team let him down cos he has not won trophies like Ponting.
Well done to Amla!!!!
It was only Steyn and Amla who won the first match!! The only 2 SA players I like!
I would add Kallis to that as he is best player of our time. Pity his team let him down cos he has not won trophies like Ponting.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 01:59 PM
Guy, did u ever hear Britney Spears saying "she was saving herself for marriage", ever hear of Tiger woods...
So what they say in public is who they are behind the scenes.
When Smith became captain, he wanted Klusener out.
Whether Klusener was a bad person or not, Cronje used to get the best out of him.
Cronje was out best Captain, yet he was not the best player (on and off the field).
Maybe Kallis will release a biography later on and say Smith was the best captain and person as well, then i will say i was wrong, but now i look at the facts.
It's say a lot that your best captain was a cheat!
ha ha ha choker!
So what they say in public is who they are behind the scenes.
When Smith became captain, he wanted Klusener out.
Whether Klusener was a bad person or not, Cronje used to get the best out of him.
Cronje was out best Captain, yet he was not the best player (on and off the field).
Maybe Kallis will release a biography later on and say Smith was the best captain and person as well, then i will say i was wrong, but now i look at the facts.
It's say a lot that your best captain was a cheat!
ha ha ha choker!
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:00 PM
The SA team like to persist with youngsters before they axe them.
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
I dont want to sound like a stuck record but playing with two batsmen so out of form its always going to hurt a side. You cant expect one batsmen to keep on scoring, what Amla did was a miracle to score all those runs
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
I dont want to sound like a stuck record but playing with two batsmen so out of form its always going to hurt a side. You cant expect one batsmen to keep on scoring, what Amla did was a miracle to score all those runs
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 02:01 PM
Makhaya must come back.
He is better than morkil and panell.
He is better than morkil and panell.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 02:02 PM
I dont want to sound like a stuck record but playing with two batsmen so out of form its always going to hurt a side. You cant expect one batsmen to keep on scoring, what Amla did was a miracle to score all those runs
You mean 4 batters out of form.
add smith and de villiers.
choked.......
You mean 4 batters out of form.
add smith and de villiers.
choked.......
killadoob
18-02-2010, 02:02 PM
In all fairness i think kallis is our greatest ever test batsmen.
I think to some degree he has lost us some trophies in his time with his test like batting in odi's and pro 20
No let's not blame SA for kallis's lack of trophies, he is more worried about not going out than scoring fast. Only when he got dropped from the pro 20 squad did he decide he should start smashing the ball. Kallis absolute test legend but i hate seeing him in the odi and pro 20 squad.
The worst case i saw was against australia when we needed well over 300 and we were on track until he came in. He destroyed our awesome run rate beyond repair.
I think to some degree he has lost us some trophies in his time with his test like batting in odi's and pro 20
No let's not blame SA for kallis's lack of trophies, he is more worried about not going out than scoring fast. Only when he got dropped from the pro 20 squad did he decide he should start smashing the ball. Kallis absolute test legend but i hate seeing him in the odi and pro 20 squad.
The worst case i saw was against australia when we needed well over 300 and we were on track until he came in. He destroyed our awesome run rate beyond repair.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Makhaya must come back.
He is better than morkil and panell.
Nope they have to move on, especially if Ntini insists on bowling with no variation
He is better than morkil and panell.
Nope they have to move on, especially if Ntini insists on bowling with no variation
JK8
18-02-2010, 02:10 PM
I would add Kallis to that as he is best player of our time. Pity his team let him down cos he has not won trophies like Ponting.
Did Kallis score the 258*??? did he ever score 200+ Hahahaha...
Amla and Steyn won the first match, kapish.
Kallis is a selfish player, all the cricketers know it, he only plays for himself anyway.
Did Kallis score the 258*??? did he ever score 200+ Hahahaha...
Amla and Steyn won the first match, kapish.
Kallis is a selfish player, all the cricketers know it, he only plays for himself anyway.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:13 PM
Did Kallis score the 258*??? did he ever score 200+ Hahahaha...
Amla and Ateyn won the first match, kapish.
Kallis is a selfish player, all the cricketers know it, he only plays for himself anyway.
We would have lost many more games if it wasnt for Kallis. If you want to troll at least put some effort in.
Amla and Ateyn won the first match, kapish.
Kallis is a selfish player, all the cricketers know it, he only plays for himself anyway.
We would have lost many more games if it wasnt for Kallis. If you want to troll at least put some effort in.
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 02:13 PM
I think M. Morkel needs to go. He has been given ample opportunity and the selectors have stuck by him but he has never settled in at this level. He just doesn't have the temprament. I like Parnell though, we just need to give him more of a chance to settle. He should have been eased into the team a while ago.
JK8
18-02-2010, 02:16 PM
We would have lost many more games if it wasnt for Kallis. If you want to troll at least put some effort in.
Mmmmm I dont mind Kallis that much, hes the face of South African cricket. Text book and boring.
Mmmmm I dont mind Kallis that much, hes the face of South African cricket. Text book and boring.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:17 PM
The SA team like to persist with youngsters before they axe them.
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
Kallis was never dropped. They persisted with him and the same applies to ab. They both went through this phase. Only youngsters they have dropped who came back is amla.
We do not have a weak tail. Sure its not at the levels of the sa side that had the likes of pollock,klusener,hall,boje but compared to most sides this is a very good tail. Everyone is averaging about 12 and other guys like parnell,steyn and morkel should be averaging 20. In fact it compares pretty well to the great australian sides tail.
Ntini is not better than morkel and parnell, this was proven during the english series. There is a reason he got dropped. Parnell and morkel's performance are pretty much the same as what mitch johnson and bret lee achieved last time in india. Hardly disgraced themselves. Also especially morne was the victim of his fielders dropping catches.
On the test the middle order let us down. None of ab,jp or prince contributed in this test. Great effort from hash and the tail but it was too much for them to do. The fact that parnell and hash's partnership is the highest of the innings say it all.
Duminy is avergaing 30 now and he will be axed.
Look at Kallis and Amla, when they first came in, they were averaging below 25 before they were sent back to domestic.
But they came back and, well, they both averaging now close to 50.
We still have probably the best batting line-up but a weak tail (look at the ratings and add Prince's predicament).
We do have a small problem in the bowling dept as we rely totally on Steyn who is by far the best.
Our fielding has also become poor (we were the best before) as we drop too many catches.
But even still, on paper, i think we have the best side.
Problem is, we thump sides (beat Aus, Ind and Eng by an inns...) which gives us good stats. But we dont salvage games like these where we need to draw.
Against Eng, we outplayed them 3 times, but won 1, and they outplayed us 1 and won 1.
Kallis was never dropped. They persisted with him and the same applies to ab. They both went through this phase. Only youngsters they have dropped who came back is amla.
We do not have a weak tail. Sure its not at the levels of the sa side that had the likes of pollock,klusener,hall,boje but compared to most sides this is a very good tail. Everyone is averaging about 12 and other guys like parnell,steyn and morkel should be averaging 20. In fact it compares pretty well to the great australian sides tail.
Ntini is not better than morkel and parnell, this was proven during the english series. There is a reason he got dropped. Parnell and morkel's performance are pretty much the same as what mitch johnson and bret lee achieved last time in india. Hardly disgraced themselves. Also especially morne was the victim of his fielders dropping catches.
On the test the middle order let us down. None of ab,jp or prince contributed in this test. Great effort from hash and the tail but it was too much for them to do. The fact that parnell and hash's partnership is the highest of the innings say it all.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Mmmmm I dont mind Kallis that much, hes the face of South African cricket. Text book and boring.
Well other players must read the textbook because they arent performing
Well other players must read the textbook because they arent performing
JK8
18-02-2010, 02:19 PM
They were never in a winning position so they didn't choke. They just played crap from the start.
They actually did well at the start, it was when Amla went out did everything fall to pieces, Amla tried to bring it back to bad Morkel cant play cricket to save his life.
They actually did well at the start, it was when Amla went out did everything fall to pieces, Amla tried to bring it back to bad Morkel cant play cricket to save his life.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:23 PM
They actually did well at the start, it was when Amla went out did everything fall to pieces, Amla tried to bring it back to bad Morkel cant play cricket to save his life.
Good grief these trolls are getting lazy, Morkel is a number 11 batsmen
Good grief these trolls are getting lazy, Morkel is a number 11 batsmen
alf101
18-02-2010, 02:24 PM
Guys!!! This is not the football section. FFS!!!
superskully
18-02-2010, 02:26 PM
Can someone explain this.
Amla was not in the one day squad, but he is now cos of Smith's injury (so he was injured yet they still played him - thats does show good character but also foolishness).
Maybe cos Amla stands out of the crowd now, but he averages around 47 in ODI - he should be automatically selected. He strike rate is also 82, which is higher than Kallis and the same as Smith.
Amla was not in the one day squad, but he is now cos of Smith's injury (so he was injured yet they still played him - thats does show good character but also foolishness).
Maybe cos Amla stands out of the crowd now, but he averages around 47 in ODI - he should be automatically selected. He strike rate is also 82, which is higher than Kallis and the same as Smith.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:27 PM
Good grief these trolls are getting lazy, Morkel is a number 11 batsmen
Agreed. Morne is actually a more than decent number 11. He did brilliantly to stick with hash so long.
Agreed. Morne is actually a more than decent number 11. He did brilliantly to stick with hash so long.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:28 PM
Can someone explain this.
Amla was not in the one day squad, but he is now cos of Smith's injury (so he was injured yet they still played him - thats does show good character but also foolishness).
Maybe cos Amla stands out of the crowd now, but he averages around 47 in ODI - he should be automatically selected. He strike rate is also 82, which is higher than Kallis and the same as Smith.
Because the selectors decided to pick a hack like loots bosman ahead of him. That selection panel was sacked. Bosman averaged 17 in the pro 40 but someone got picked because once in 20 innings he happens to score very quickly.
Amla was not in the one day squad, but he is now cos of Smith's injury (so he was injured yet they still played him - thats does show good character but also foolishness).
Maybe cos Amla stands out of the crowd now, but he averages around 47 in ODI - he should be automatically selected. He strike rate is also 82, which is higher than Kallis and the same as Smith.
Because the selectors decided to pick a hack like loots bosman ahead of him. That selection panel was sacked. Bosman averaged 17 in the pro 40 but someone got picked because once in 20 innings he happens to score very quickly.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:30 PM
You mean 4 batters out of form.
add smith and de villiers.
choked.......
No we only notice the darkies performing badly right :rolleyes:
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Maybe you should make it a plan to use that word in every sentence you say from now on, just like the word "comrade"
add smith and de villiers.
choked.......
No we only notice the darkies performing badly right :rolleyes:
And just for you, to show you how old and misused the word is:
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stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:34 PM
I think M. Morkel needs to go. He has been given ample opportunity and the selectors have stuck by him but he has never settled in at this level. He just doesn't have the temprament. I like Parnell though, we just need to give him more of a chance to settle. He should have been eased into the team a while ago.
The man had a brilliant series vs england. Its always very very hard for fast bowlers in india. He gets tons of catches dropped as well. None of the bowlers deserve to get dropped. All did their jobs manfully. The batsman with the exception of amla and to some extent pietersen let us down in this match. The attack is fine with steyn,morkel,parnell and harris the batsman just need to give them the runs on the board.
The man had a brilliant series vs england. Its always very very hard for fast bowlers in india. He gets tons of catches dropped as well. None of the bowlers deserve to get dropped. All did their jobs manfully. The batsman with the exception of amla and to some extent pietersen let us down in this match. The attack is fine with steyn,morkel,parnell and harris the batsman just need to give them the runs on the board.
silkman
18-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Because the selectors decided to pick a hack like loots bosman ahead of him. That selection panel was sacked. Bosman averaged 17 in the pro 40 but someone got picked because once in 20 innings he happens to score very quickly.
correct me if I'm wrong but the selectors who picked Bosman did not get sacked. The squad was chosen by the new panel.
Why Amla is not a permanent fixture in the side is mind boggling!
correct me if I'm wrong but the selectors who picked Bosman did not get sacked. The squad was chosen by the new panel.
Why Amla is not a permanent fixture in the side is mind boggling!
superskully
18-02-2010, 02:42 PM
Because the selectors decided to pick a hack like loots bosman ahead of him. That selection panel was sacked. Bosman averaged 17 in the pro 40 but someone got picked because once in 20 innings he happens to score very quickly.
Does Bosman play for the dolphins, cos i have never seen him make score for them.
Does Bosman play for the dolphins, cos i have never seen him make score for them.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:45 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but the selectors who picked Bosman did not get sacked. The squad was chosen by the new panel.
Why Amla is not a permanent fixture in the side is mind boggling!
No the squad was picked before arthur resigned and the selectors got sacked. Only langeveld was added by the new selection panel and amla when smith got injured. Bosman was picked by the old selection panel.
Why Amla is not a permanent fixture in the side is mind boggling!
No the squad was picked before arthur resigned and the selectors got sacked. Only langeveld was added by the new selection panel and amla when smith got injured. Bosman was picked by the old selection panel.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 02:46 PM
Well give bosman a chance dammit :D
JK8
18-02-2010, 02:47 PM
The man had a brilliant series vs england. Its always very very hard for fast bowlers in india. He gets tons of catches dropped as well. None of the bowlers deserve to get dropped. All did their jobs manfully. The batsman with the exception of amla and to some extent pietersen let us down in this match. The attack is fine with steyn,morkel,parnell and harris the batsman just need to give them the runs on the board.
He is a below average bowler. So is Harris.
What is Tsosobe doing in India? Eating curry and buying saris?
He is a below average bowler. So is Harris.
What is Tsosobe doing in India? Eating curry and buying saris?
JK8
18-02-2010, 02:48 PM
Agreed. Morne is actually a more than decent number 11. He did brilliantly to stick with hash so long.
Thats cause Indias strike bowler was injured.
Thats cause Indias strike bowler was injured.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 02:52 PM
No we only notice the darkies performing badly right :rolleyes:
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Maybe you should make it a plan to use that word in every sentence you say from now on, just like the word "comrade"
I love you to Stephin........
And just for you, to show you how old and misused the word is:
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Maybe you should make it a plan to use that word in every sentence you say from now on, just like the word "comrade"
I love you to Stephin........
Stephen
18-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Thats cause Indias strike bowler was injured.
South Africa got a lot of stick drawing a series with England. So dont get carried away with India DRAWING the series at home. We all know how poor India are against decent sides away from home.
South Africa got a lot of stick drawing a series with England. So dont get carried away with India DRAWING the series at home. We all know how poor India are against decent sides away from home.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Thats cause Indias strike bowler was injured.
He has made scores against that strike bowler before. In fact made 21 and 31 not out vs him on debut.
He has made scores against that strike bowler before. In fact made 21 and 31 not out vs him on debut.
superskully
18-02-2010, 02:54 PM
No the squad was picked before arthur resigned and the selectors got sacked. Only langeveld was added by the new selection panel and amla when smith got injured. Bosman was picked by the old selection panel.
But check this out.
Bosman is like 33, Amla 26.
His average in domestic one dayers is 28.
HTF is he chosen over Amla. HTF is he chosen at all. I am sure there are better openers, Bodi springs to mind.
But check this out.
Bosman is like 33, Amla 26.
His average in domestic one dayers is 28.
HTF is he chosen over Amla. HTF is he chosen at all. I am sure there are better openers, Bodi springs to mind.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:57 PM
He is a below average bowler. So is Harris.
What is Tsosobe doing in India? Eating curry and buying saris?
You want someone who struggles to bowl above 130 kph and gets hit around in domestic cricket once the ball stops swining?? Morkel out bowls him by a mile in SA domestic cricket. Tsotsobe just like mcclaren are there as backup because they are the best of an average bunch of domestic bowlers, in truth they aren't test bowlers. ODI yes but not test.
I guess you disagree with a lot of former great cricketers who rate morkel/steyn as the best new ball combo. Also go and ask andrew strauss whether he thinks morkel is below average.
What is Tsosobe doing in India? Eating curry and buying saris?
You want someone who struggles to bowl above 130 kph and gets hit around in domestic cricket once the ball stops swining?? Morkel out bowls him by a mile in SA domestic cricket. Tsotsobe just like mcclaren are there as backup because they are the best of an average bunch of domestic bowlers, in truth they aren't test bowlers. ODI yes but not test.
I guess you disagree with a lot of former great cricketers who rate morkel/steyn as the best new ball combo. Also go and ask andrew strauss whether he thinks morkel is below average.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 02:59 PM
But check this out.
Bosman is like 33, Amla 26.
His average in domestic one dayers is 28.
HTF is he chosen over Amla. HTF is he chosen at all. I am sure there are better openers, Bodi springs to mind.
I agree with you. Like I said bosman is a hack who got picked because the selectors someone feels he can repeat 20/20 form in 50 over cricket. He has proven he can't . He shouldn't be there. There is bodi and the likes of vandiar,miller,ingram or rossouw who they could have picked as youngsters to gain some experience instead of taking someone who is very unlikely to have any sort of impact.
Bosman is like 33, Amla 26.
His average in domestic one dayers is 28.
HTF is he chosen over Amla. HTF is he chosen at all. I am sure there are better openers, Bodi springs to mind.
I agree with you. Like I said bosman is a hack who got picked because the selectors someone feels he can repeat 20/20 form in 50 over cricket. He has proven he can't . He shouldn't be there. There is bodi and the likes of vandiar,miller,ingram or rossouw who they could have picked as youngsters to gain some experience instead of taking someone who is very unlikely to have any sort of impact.
phoneJunky
18-02-2010, 03:21 PM
Well, Amla is there now - lets see how it turns out. I would have liked if we won the test series, but a series draw is also very good. Not allot of teams can pull that off.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 03:22 PM
You guys said the same thing about bosman before he clobbered 2 awesome pro 20 innings.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 03:23 PM
South Africa got a lot of stick drawing a series with England. So dont get carried away with India DRAWING the series at home. We all know how poor India are against decent sides away from home.
So I suppose you consider Australia to be not decent!
Go back to your hole, troll.
So I suppose you consider Australia to be not decent!
Go back to your hole, troll.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 03:27 PM
So I suppose you consider Australia to be not decent!
Go back to your hole, troll.
Er India lost in Australia
Go back to your hole, troll.
Er India lost in Australia
alf101
18-02-2010, 03:31 PM
You guys said the same thing about bosman before he clobbered 2 awesome pro 20 innings.
I'm happy he's there.
My batting lineup for ODi / T20's is:
Bosman
Smith
Gibbs
Morkel
Kemp
De Villiers
Boucher
I'm happy he's there.
My batting lineup for ODi / T20's is:
Bosman
Smith
Gibbs
Morkel
Kemp
De Villiers
Boucher
killadoob
18-02-2010, 03:37 PM
Gibbs? Did they include him or you taking the piss? :D
I hope bosman proves you guys wrong if he gets the chance AGAIN :D.
I hope bosman proves you guys wrong if he gets the chance AGAIN :D.
Mamajyot
18-02-2010, 03:37 PM
Er India lost in Australia
errrr.
did u watch that series or you just troll the net for stats?
Stupidity has no boundaries when it comes to you!
errrr.
did u watch that series or you just troll the net for stats?
Stupidity has no boundaries when it comes to you!
superskully
18-02-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm happy he's there.
My batting lineup for ODi / T20's is:
Bosman
Smith
Gibbs
Morkel
Kemp
De Villiers
Boucher
Uh, Gibbs and Kemp are not there while Smith is out now.
U dont have kallis or Amla there yet they have the best averages.
Maybe that line-up for T20, not ODI.
U have to have people lile Amla and kallis to hold the innings.
Its no wonder SA crash in ODI's (go check the recent results).
My batting lineup for ODi / T20's is:
Bosman
Smith
Gibbs
Morkel
Kemp
De Villiers
Boucher
Uh, Gibbs and Kemp are not there while Smith is out now.
U dont have kallis or Amla there yet they have the best averages.
Maybe that line-up for T20, not ODI.
U have to have people lile Amla and kallis to hold the innings.
Its no wonder SA crash in ODI's (go check the recent results).
killadoob
18-02-2010, 03:44 PM
Skully you know SA has crashed with kallis in the team a lot? if anything kallis adds to our problems by scoring low and pressuring the other batsmen to have a slog due to the run rate being so poor. So no kallis is not our saviour, sometimes he is our undoing.
Stephen
18-02-2010, 03:50 PM
errrr.
did u watch that series or you just troll the net for stats?
Stupidity has no boundaries when it comes to you!
Good grief you are dumb, here this might help:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=2;spanmin 1=25+Jun+2005;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
Thats the result in the book
and heres another one:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=3;spanmin 1=25+Jun+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
They did win one test match I applaude that
Oops almost forgot
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did u watch that series or you just troll the net for stats?
Stupidity has no boundaries when it comes to you!
Good grief you are dumb, here this might help:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=2;spanmin 1=25+Jun+2005;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
Thats the result in the book
and heres another one:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=3;spanmin 1=25+Jun+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
They did win one test match I applaude that
Oops almost forgot
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alf101
18-02-2010, 03:54 PM
Uh, Gibbs and Kemp are not there while Smith is out now.
U dont have kallis or Amla there yet they have the best averages.
Maybe that line-up for T20, not ODI.
U have to have people lile Amla and kallis to hold the innings.
Its no wonder SA crash in ODI's (go check the recent results).
Yeah, I'm very aware of that.
That is what I think our best lineup will be if we want to win trophies.
U dont have kallis or Amla there yet they have the best averages.
Maybe that line-up for T20, not ODI.
U have to have people lile Amla and kallis to hold the innings.
Its no wonder SA crash in ODI's (go check the recent results).
Yeah, I'm very aware of that.
That is what I think our best lineup will be if we want to win trophies.
alf101
18-02-2010, 03:55 PM
Good grief you are dumb, here this might help:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=2;spanmin 1=25+Jun+2005;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
Thats the result in the book
and heres another one:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=3;spanmin 1=25+Jun+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
They did win one test match I applaude that
Oops almost forgot
choke choke choke choke
I believe he has baited u, take a chill pill and leave the twit alone.
We don't want cricket threads getting closed.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=2;spanmin 1=25+Jun+2005;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
Thats the result in the book
and heres another one:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=3;spanmin 1=25+Jun+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;type= team;view=series
They did win one test match I applaude that
Oops almost forgot
choke choke choke choke
I believe he has baited u, take a chill pill and leave the twit alone.
We don't want cricket threads getting closed.
killadoob
18-02-2010, 04:03 PM
I believe he has baited u, take a chill pill and leave the twit alone.
We don't want cricket threads getting closed.
Yup, ignore his comments we can all see he is nothing but trouble :D.
We don't want cricket threads getting closed.
Yup, ignore his comments we can all see he is nothing but trouble :D.
stefan9
18-02-2010, 04:21 PM
You guys said the same thing about bosman before he clobbered 2 awesome pro 20 innings.
No have always said bosman is t20 player. There's a reason his t20 average is higher than his odi and first class averages. Just totally disagreed with you when you wanted bosman in the normal odi side.
Gibbs? Did they include him or you taking the piss? :D
I hope bosman proves you guys wrong if he gets the chance AGAIN :D.
Gibbs averaged 79 for the cobras in the domestic 40/40 competition. He is back in the squad on merit.p
No have always said bosman is t20 player. There's a reason his t20 average is higher than his odi and first class averages. Just totally disagreed with you when you wanted bosman in the normal odi side.
Gibbs? Did they include him or you taking the piss? :D
I hope bosman proves you guys wrong if he gets the chance AGAIN :D.
Gibbs averaged 79 for the cobras in the domestic 40/40 competition. He is back in the squad on merit.p
killadoob
18-02-2010, 04:29 PM
OMG gibbsiback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay bosman and gibbs to open :eek:, either 20/2 off 1 over or 150 off the first 12 :D.
sox63
18-02-2010, 04:45 PM
OMG gibbsiback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay bosman and gibbs to open :eek:, either 20/2 off 1 over or 150 off the first 12 :D.
That would be something :D
That would be something :D
Stephen
18-02-2010, 04:58 PM
If Gibbs plays them we going to have to keep him until the World Cup. Otherwise the exercise in picking him will be pointless
stefan9
18-02-2010, 05:08 PM
Gibbs will not open. He will bat number or in the middle order. That's what he has been doing for the cobras.
SlyFly
18-02-2010, 06:14 PM
MMM
Not everything is always race based... Who is the white player not performing and a blind eye is turned on him? AB De Villiers?
What about non-white players that are kept in the team even if they aren't performing? Gibbs (Finally dropped), Ntini (Finally dropped), Duminy, Ashwell?
This is a reply to something said on Page 50, didnt wanted to quote it...
I love Gibbs, but lets hope he has learned a lesson this time around... But I doubt it... He has no patients...
Not everything is always race based... Who is the white player not performing and a blind eye is turned on him? AB De Villiers?
What about non-white players that are kept in the team even if they aren't performing? Gibbs (Finally dropped), Ntini (Finally dropped), Duminy, Ashwell?
This is a reply to something said on Page 50, didnt wanted to quote it...
I love Gibbs, but lets hope he has learned a lesson this time around... But I doubt it... He has no patients...
silkman
18-02-2010, 07:26 PM
so will amla open?
SlyFly
18-02-2010, 07:46 PM
I think Bosman and Amla could be a good opening option... Amla doesnt play as aggresively but atleast he can keep his wicket and score runs... Otherwise maybe Pieterson and Bosman?
Kilgore_Trout_Redux
18-02-2010, 08:20 PM
I can't help thinking that Gibbs is heading towards the end of his career and we need to focus on bringing fresh young players into the team.
Sting
18-02-2010, 08:27 PM
I think Bosman and Amla could be a good opening option... Amla doesnt play as aggresively but atleast he can keep his wicket and score runs... Otherwise maybe Pieterson and Bosman?
Amla outscored Bosman and had a better strike rate when they played together for the Dolphins before the Indian tour. Amla is awesome in any form of the game and frankly I would have selected him before Bosman in the original ODI squad.
Amla outscored Bosman and had a better strike rate when they played together for the Dolphins before the Indian tour. Amla is awesome in any form of the game and frankly I would have selected him before Bosman in the original ODI squad.
Smooth Criminal
18-02-2010, 08:52 PM
I can't help thinking that Gibbs is heading towards the end of his career and we need to focus on bringing fresh young players into the team.
Sure but at least give him one more world cup before he retires, this time he's earned it.
Sure but at least give him one more world cup before he retires, this time he's earned it.
sand_man
18-02-2010, 09:08 PM
He has no patients...
Well good thing he isn't a doctor then....
Well good thing he isn't a doctor then....
stefan9
18-02-2010, 09:48 PM
I can't help thinking that Gibbs is heading towards the end of his career and we need to focus on bringing fresh young players into the team.
The youngsters are not ready for international cricket and there is not enough time to get them ready for the 2011 wc. Gibbs has shown through his form in pro 40 that he deserves his spot. After wc 2011 gibbs will likely retire from international cricket and kallis and boucher from odi and t20, you can then bring in the likes of rossouw,vandiar,ingram and miller. Its too soon for them at this stage.
The youngsters are not ready for international cricket and there is not enough time to get them ready for the 2011 wc. Gibbs has shown through his form in pro 40 that he deserves his spot. After wc 2011 gibbs will likely retire from international cricket and kallis and boucher from odi and t20, you can then bring in the likes of rossouw,vandiar,ingram and miller. Its too soon for them at this stage.
Sting
18-02-2010, 09:54 PM
The youngsters are not ready for international cricket and there is not enough time to get them ready for the 2011 wc. Gibbs has shown through his form in pro 40 that he deserves his spot. After wc 2011 gibbs will likely retire from international cricket and kallis and boucher from odi and t20, you can then bring in the likes of rossouw,vandiar,ingram and miller. Its too soon for them at this stage.
Fair comment, but then a few of them should be invited to tour with the Proteas to get them used to the international arena and even dome exposure if the opportunity arises.
Ingram ftw!!!
Fair comment, but then a few of them should be invited to tour with the Proteas to get them used to the international arena and even dome exposure if the opportunity arises.
Ingram ftw!!!
stefan9
18-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Fair comment, but then a few of them should be invited to tour with the Proteas to get them used to the international arena and even dome exposure if the opportunity arises.
Ingram ftw!!!
Elgar and Rossouw have trained with the proteas at a pre season camp earlier this year. Personally I would like to see anyone one of these picked ahead of someone like bosman.
Ingram ftw!!!
Elgar and Rossouw have trained with the proteas at a pre season camp earlier this year. Personally I would like to see anyone one of these picked ahead of someone like bosman.
JK8
18-02-2010, 10:08 PM
The youngsters are not ready for international cricket and there is not enough time to get them ready for the 2011 wc. Gibbs has shown through his form in pro 40 that he deserves his spot. After wc 2011 gibbs will likely retire from international cricket and kallis and boucher from odi and t20, you can then bring in the likes of rossouw,vandiar,ingram and miller. Its too soon for them at this stage.
Why not? Did they only realise now that theres a WC next year? I thought these issues were addressed after the 03 WC? What a waste, sending the same losers to try and win. What about the poor bowling attack? Steyn there. Im sure Parnell will be ready. Who else? A Morkel brother lol?
Why not? Did they only realise now that theres a WC next year? I thought these issues were addressed after the 03 WC? What a waste, sending the same losers to try and win. What about the poor bowling attack? Steyn there. Im sure Parnell will be ready. Who else? A Morkel brother lol?
stefan9
18-02-2010, 11:49 PM
Why not? Did they only realise now that theres a WC next year? I thought these issues were addressed after the 03 WC? What a waste, sending the same losers to try and win. What about the poor bowling attack? Steyn there. Im sure Parnell will be ready. Who else? A Morkel brother lol?
These players who are good enough to play for SA have only emerged in the last year. You do not pick 4 19/22 year old's and hope to win the wc. Steyn,Parnell and Morne Morkel is more than a decent attack. The worry is the spinner, hopefully roeloff rediscovers his form or botha finds a way to bowl his ****ra legally.
These players who are good enough to play for SA have only emerged in the last year. You do not pick 4 19/22 year old's and hope to win the wc. Steyn,Parnell and Morne Morkel is more than a decent attack. The worry is the spinner, hopefully roeloff rediscovers his form or botha finds a way to bowl his ****ra legally.
lilggg
19-02-2010, 12:08 AM
Well good thing he isn't a doctor then....
LOL!Very good thing.Dont think any1 else got that.
LOL!Very good thing.Dont think any1 else got that.
Vis1/0N
19-02-2010, 07:57 AM
I posted my predictions somewhere in the England thread ...
"Going to India now - flat pitches for our 2 batsmen who are having a bad time - yay! , and flat pitches for our newbie bowlers, our toothless spinner.
The good news is that India's bowlers are not that good. The bad news for our bowlers is that India no longer collapse like a ton of bricks. Looking foward to Sehwag and the ball flying to the boundary on the flat pitches ;-) "
Predication : flat pitches for our 2 batsmen who are having a bad time - yay!
Result : flat pitches, average Indian bowlers, Prince and Duminy still suck big time.
Prediction : Sehwag was going to have a nice time with our bowlers and India's flat pitches -
Result : correct, he scored 290 in 3 innings, at a rate of 87%.
Prediction : India no longer Collapse
Result : 50-50 The 2nd test the fought well and avoided the clump of wickets.
Prediction : India's bowlers are not that good
Result : They ain't apart from Zaheer, and Singh is only half good.
Prediction : Our bowlers will be breaking their backs ... "flat pitches for our newbie bowlers, our toothless spinner"
Result : Apart from Dale Steyn, the rest were average and below, the pitches were flat, and our spinner unimpressive.
Prediction : Run rates at 4.0
Result : Close, Kallis and Amla innings brought it down, but the general run rate in India seems to be 4 to the over, except for the team that is struggling for survival
Prediction : 2 draws
Result : Wrong, 2 innings win within 4 day's of play.
"Going to India now - flat pitches for our 2 batsmen who are having a bad time - yay! , and flat pitches for our newbie bowlers, our toothless spinner.
The good news is that India's bowlers are not that good. The bad news for our bowlers is that India no longer collapse like a ton of bricks. Looking foward to Sehwag and the ball flying to the boundary on the flat pitches ;-) "
Predication : flat pitches for our 2 batsmen who are having a bad time - yay!
Result : flat pitches, average Indian bowlers, Prince and Duminy still suck big time.
Prediction : Sehwag was going to have a nice time with our bowlers and India's flat pitches -
Result : correct, he scored 290 in 3 innings, at a rate of 87%.
Prediction : India no longer Collapse
Result : 50-50 The 2nd test the fought well and avoided the clump of wickets.
Prediction : India's bowlers are not that good
Result : They ain't apart from Zaheer, and Singh is only half good.
Prediction : Our bowlers will be breaking their backs ... "flat pitches for our newbie bowlers, our toothless spinner"
Result : Apart from Dale Steyn, the rest were average and below, the pitches were flat, and our spinner unimpressive.
Prediction : Run rates at 4.0
Result : Close, Kallis and Amla innings brought it down, but the general run rate in India seems to be 4 to the over, except for the team that is struggling for survival
Prediction : 2 draws
Result : Wrong, 2 innings win within 4 day's of play.
Devill
19-02-2010, 08:38 AM
Good thing is that ODIs on the Sub continent is far removed from Tests there....
Bad thing is IMO India is a much better ODI team than Test team :(
Hoping we can make something happen as we just seem a taqd to "flat" to win a WC atm.
Bad thing is IMO India is a much better ODI team than Test team :(
Hoping we can make something happen as we just seem a taqd to "flat" to win a WC atm.
killadoob
19-02-2010, 08:42 AM
F i hope the games are like india vs sri lanka, when do they start?
I dunno i sometimes feel we are better odi team than test team as well. At least smithers won't try be a hero and play injured. I can understand playing injured if the injury occurs during a match and you try save it but i cannot understand playing with an injury from the start.
I dunno i sometimes feel we are better odi team than test team as well. At least smithers won't try be a hero and play injured. I can understand playing injured if the injury occurs during a match and you try save it but i cannot understand playing with an injury from the start.
phoneJunky
19-02-2010, 10:17 AM
Hashim Amla moves to second on the test batting rankings and Sehwag to first
Devill
19-02-2010, 10:23 AM
Hashim Amla moves to second on the test batting rankings and Sehwag to first
Both well deserving it.
Sehwag is revolutionizing the way a test cricketer can bat. He is showing the world you can score big double hundreds at a SR of 80-100.
Both well deserving it.
Sehwag is revolutionizing the way a test cricketer can bat. He is showing the world you can score big double hundreds at a SR of 80-100.
stefan9
19-02-2010, 12:14 PM
Both well deserving it.
Sehwag is revolutionizing the way a test cricketer can bat. He is showing the world you can score big double hundreds at a SR of 80-100.
He is showing it can be done in the subcontinent where the ball doesn't bounce and seam. He really cashes in on this grounds which helps him to keep up that average. His technique with no foot movement gets exposed where the ball bounces.
His stats per ground makes very interesting reading:http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;v iew=ground
Sehwag is revolutionizing the way a test cricketer can bat. He is showing the world you can score big double hundreds at a SR of 80-100.
He is showing it can be done in the subcontinent where the ball doesn't bounce and seam. He really cashes in on this grounds which helps him to keep up that average. His technique with no foot movement gets exposed where the ball bounces.
His stats per ground makes very interesting reading:http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;v iew=ground
Mamajyot
19-02-2010, 12:34 PM
He is showing it can be done in the subcontinent where the ball doesn't bounce and seam. He really cashes in on this grounds which helps him to keep up that average. His technique with no foot movement gets exposed where the ball bounces.
His stats per ground makes very interesting reading:http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;v iew=ground
Best opener in the world in my opinion........
His stats per ground makes very interesting reading:http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;v iew=ground
Best opener in the world in my opinion........
phoneJunky
19-02-2010, 02:09 PM
From what I saw from stefan9 stats it seems that he struggles in South Africa, with the exception of Bloemfontein. Can't wait to host a test against them at the end of the year. Will book tickets for either the Supersport park game or the Newlands game.
stefan9
19-02-2010, 02:59 PM
From what I saw from stefan9 stats it seems that he struggles in South Africa, with the exception of Bloemfontein. Can't wait to host a test against them at the end of the year. Will book tickets for either the Supersport park game or the Newlands game.
Also something to take note of. At bloemfontein he batted number 6, that was his debut game. He made a 100 but that was against the old ball. Bloem also has the rep of being the flattest of our test grounds. When he was last in SA , he averaged 17 for the series. So its going to be very interesting come the end of the year. Hopefully the groundsman are instructed to prepare green bouncy tracks.
Also something to take note of. At bloemfontein he batted number 6, that was his debut game. He made a 100 but that was against the old ball. Bloem also has the rep of being the flattest of our test grounds. When he was last in SA , he averaged 17 for the series. So its going to be very interesting come the end of the year. Hopefully the groundsman are instructed to prepare green bouncy tracks.
Stephen
19-02-2010, 04:49 PM
Smith still skipper and Van Zyl still coach
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Cricket/245/0252a1ab9c424957a69a6a49ae569dee/19-02-2010-03-57/Van_Zyl_at_the_helm_for_CWC_
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Cricket/245/0252a1ab9c424957a69a6a49ae569dee/19-02-2010-03-57/Van_Zyl_at_the_helm_for_CWC_
Mamajyot
19-02-2010, 04:53 PM
No chance in 2011.
Very sad though.....CSA need to be more progressive!
Very sad though.....CSA need to be more progressive!
alf101
19-02-2010, 04:59 PM
No chance in 2011.
Very sad though.....CSA need to be more progressive!
U not banned yet?
Mods must be on holiday.
Very sad though.....CSA need to be more progressive!
U not banned yet?
Mods must be on holiday.
stefan9
19-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Smith still skipper and Van Zyl still coach
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Cricket/245/0252a1ab9c424957a69a6a49ae569dee/19-02-2010-03-57/Van_Zyl_at_the_helm_for_CWC_
Good news that van zyl is the coach. He was the ideal candidate at this time. Smith was alsways going to continue no matter what the haters say about him. Also good that we now have an official vice captain.
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Cricket/245/0252a1ab9c424957a69a6a49ae569dee/19-02-2010-03-57/Van_Zyl_at_the_helm_for_CWC_
Good news that van zyl is the coach. He was the ideal candidate at this time. Smith was alsways going to continue no matter what the haters say about him. Also good that we now have an official vice captain.
Stephen
19-02-2010, 08:07 PM
U not banned yet?
Mods must be on holiday.
Why is he still in the country?
Mods must be on holiday.
Why is he still in the country?
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Very quiet in here :wtf:
1st ODI - SA won the toss and decides to bowl first. Dhoni disappointed as he wanted to bowl first considering his spinners in the side and the dew factor later.
SA Team:
Gibbs
Bosman
Kallis (c)
De Villiers
Pietersen
Boucher
Albie Morkel
Botha
Parnell
Steyn
Langeveldt
Current score:
India 20/1 after 3.5 overs
Kartik 0 and Sehwag 13
Tendulkar run out 4
1st ODI - SA won the toss and decides to bowl first. Dhoni disappointed as he wanted to bowl first considering his spinners in the side and the dew factor later.
SA Team:
Gibbs
Bosman
Kallis (c)
De Villiers
Pietersen
Boucher
Albie Morkel
Botha
Parnell
Steyn
Langeveldt
Current score:
India 20/1 after 3.5 overs
Kartik 0 and Sehwag 13
Tendulkar run out 4
silkman
21-02-2010, 11:41 AM
no Amla...:(
Smooth Criminal
21-02-2010, 12:00 PM
I hope they bat Gibbs in the same position that he was batting domestically.
Sting
21-02-2010, 12:04 PM
I hope they bat Gibbs in the same position that he was batting domestically.
Gibbs and Petersen to open - Kallis said so at the toss.
Gibbs and Petersen to open - Kallis said so at the toss.
cr@zydude
21-02-2010, 12:27 PM
no Amla...:(
I'm going to hope that he is just being rested, he did bat for 4 days in the tests. He should be in for the next ODI.
I'm going to hope that he is just being rested, he did bat for 4 days in the tests. He should be in for the next ODI.
BigAl-sa
21-02-2010, 01:50 PM
That was an amazing catch by Gibbs - the ou-ballie still has it going for him!!
phoneJunky
21-02-2010, 02:10 PM
India is really aggressive, but they seem to loose wickets to frequently. Will see if they make 300 or not
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 02:42 PM
Kallis takes his 3rd! The captain really putting up his hand here.
India 274/8 after 45.5
India 274/8 after 45.5
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 02:46 PM
Probably deserves it's own thread but with the dismissal of Raina Kallis picked up his 250th ODI wicket :D
He is <not verified yet> the only person to:
Score 10,000 Test runs and take 250 Test wickets,
Score 10,000 ODI runs and take 250 ODI wickets.
Brilliant!
He is <not verified yet> the only person to:
Score 10,000 Test runs and take 250 Test wickets,
Score 10,000 ODI runs and take 250 ODI wickets.
Brilliant!
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 03:04 PM
Langeveldt bowls at 136km/h, the ball kisses the offstump and the ball races to the boundary :wtf: Heavy bails used in India?
Anyway, SA has to get 299 to win. Could have been less had they appealed a run out chance off Nehra, who ended up on 16 n.o. From CricInfo:
46.5 Steyn to Nehra, no run, 139.5 kph, some comical running here, Nehra pushes the ball to mid-on, Nehra and Praveen both set out, Nehra decides he can't make it so he holds up his hand asking Praveen to go back, Nehra also scampers back, there's a direct hit at the keeper's end, there was no appeal for a run-out but replays show Nehra's bat was only on the line and not across it
Nehra was on 0 at the time.
Anyway, SA has to get 299 to win. Could have been less had they appealed a run out chance off Nehra, who ended up on 16 n.o. From CricInfo:
46.5 Steyn to Nehra, no run, 139.5 kph, some comical running here, Nehra pushes the ball to mid-on, Nehra and Praveen both set out, Nehra decides he can't make it so he holds up his hand asking Praveen to go back, Nehra also scampers back, there's a direct hit at the keeper's end, there was no appeal for a run-out but replays show Nehra's bat was only on the line and not across it
Nehra was on 0 at the time.
alternate
21-02-2010, 03:12 PM
Wickets are cemented into the pitch in India!
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 03:16 PM
Gibbs to open with Bosman :D
It's either going to be 100 in 8 overs or 2 wickets down for 10 runs :twisted: Hold on to your seats.... :D
It's either going to be 100 in 8 overs or 2 wickets down for 10 runs :twisted: Hold on to your seats.... :D
alternate
21-02-2010, 03:20 PM
Is Bosman going to hit a ball?
Mamajyot
21-02-2010, 04:43 PM
AB De Villiers out for 25. Gotta be South Africa's most over-rated players!
Mamajyot
21-02-2010, 04:44 PM
Wickets are cemented into the pitch in India!
That was really freakish!
And to top it off Nehra got a 4 for it!
That was really freakish!
And to top it off Nehra got a 4 for it!
AirWolf
21-02-2010, 05:16 PM
SA crumbling :(
lilggg
21-02-2010, 05:51 PM
Why is amla not playng?
cr@zydude
21-02-2010, 06:25 PM
AB De Villiers out for 25. Gotta be South Africa's most over-rated players!
I think that he is in as bad a slump as JP and Ashwell, he just doesn't get as much stick about it on here.
Why is amla not playng?
I hope that he is simply being rested.
I think that he is in as bad a slump as JP and Ashwell, he just doesn't get as much stick about it on here.
Why is amla not playng?
I hope that he is simply being rested.
Stephen
21-02-2010, 06:27 PM
I think that he is in as bad a slump as JP and Ashwell, he just doesn't get as much stick about it on here.
I hope that he is simply being rested.
Nowhere close, and people have put up stats to prove it. But yes AB better start performing
I hope that he is simply being rested.
Nowhere close, and people have put up stats to prove it. But yes AB better start performing
lilggg
21-02-2010, 06:48 PM
Do we have a chnace,26 off 12
lilggg
21-02-2010, 06:52 PM
OMG,what amazing batting
lilggg
21-02-2010, 06:53 PM
wide,wtf
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 06:54 PM
You guys watching this!! OMW Dale and Parnell :) One more over, we need 10
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 06:56 PM
Noooo... Dale Steyn gone.. slower ball getting him. Prob all over because Langeveldt will be on strike, unless he can get 1 run and get Parnell on strike....
Sting
21-02-2010, 06:58 PM
8 from 3 - Parnell on strike!
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 06:59 PM
this guy is only bowling slower balls... ffs!!
Sting
21-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Come on Langes - 6 to tie!!! 2 balls!!
lilggg
21-02-2010, 07:00 PM
My nerves ;/,3 off 1
Sting
21-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Last ball - 4 to win - Parnell on strike!
lilggg
21-02-2010, 07:02 PM
4 off 1 parnell on strike.
lilggg
21-02-2010, 07:05 PM
haha wide
Fiekus
21-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Ah well it was probably unfair to expect our tail enders to get those runs. Premier batsmen failing, that's the problem!!!
Stephen
21-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Ah well it was probably unfair to expect our tail enders to get those runs. Premier batsmen failing, that's the problem!!!
Agree
Agree