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06-03-2010, 11:49 AM
Apple iPad release date confirmed (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/11683.html)
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Pixual
06-03-2010, 04:10 PM
I am thinking about it. Been gung ho on getting an iPhone, but then I think to myself, most of the time I'd be using the iPhone in my wireless home environment, so what would the point be? May as well get something with a bigger screen for about the same money.
Besides the iPhone will just get messed up in my pocket and be subject to unwelcome close scrutiny by the savages that surround us.
Besides the iPhone will just get messed up in my pocket and be subject to unwelcome close scrutiny by the savages that surround us.
Nuro
06-03-2010, 05:49 PM
Getting myself a proper netbook (for cheaper). I can't beleive they did not include a single usb port or sd card slot.
Tpex
06-03-2010, 07:53 PM
recently announced touch screen tablet PC
Its not a PC, its a oversized smartphone
According to Jobs the iPad will be “so much more intimate than a laptop, [is] so much more capable than a smartphone” and will offer “the best browsing experience you’ve ever had”.
bigger iphone with wifi but no flash support... nuff said
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/imagesevolution2_small.jpg
Its not a PC, its a oversized smartphone
According to Jobs the iPad will be “so much more intimate than a laptop, [is] so much more capable than a smartphone” and will offer “the best browsing experience you’ve ever had”.
bigger iphone with wifi but no flash support... nuff said
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/imagesevolution2_small.jpg
Tpex
06-03-2010, 07:58 PM
http://syntheticrhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/new-ipad-sucks.jpg
surfs-up
06-03-2010, 09:06 PM
Uhhhh, Tom....'scuze me, but you have the dates screwed up. The date in early April will be when it will be available in the USA. Jobs told us the international versions of the iPad will be available one month AFTER the USA.
As for me.....I love apple products, I have 3 iPhones, iTouch, 2 iPods, 2 iMacs, and one macbook Pro.....but this one I will pass on - until they get up to speed with a few items. More memory, a USB slot, SD card slot, a front mounted camera (so it could actually be useful with skype), also a better operating system - I would like to see it with the full OSX leopard.
As for me.....I love apple products, I have 3 iPhones, iTouch, 2 iPods, 2 iMacs, and one macbook Pro.....but this one I will pass on - until they get up to speed with a few items. More memory, a USB slot, SD card slot, a front mounted camera (so it could actually be useful with skype), also a better operating system - I would like to see it with the full OSX leopard.
bwana
06-03-2010, 10:49 PM
Normally I steer clear of Rev A of anything that comes out of Cupertino but I want one of these despite the risks. :)
Tpex
06-03-2010, 10:57 PM
Irony... The apple fanboi knows it crap and doesn't want it, but the non apple fanboi wants it....
surfs-up
07-03-2010, 08:22 AM
Irony... The apple fanboi knows it crap and doesn't want it, but the non apple fanboi wants it....
I understand their marketing strategy, but it sucks if you are a consumer - Apple are fully capable of providing a unit with way more features......however, they are keeping their shareholders happy in the long run. What I mean is...people will rush out and buy an iPad, then in 6 to 12 months time they will add more "must have "features" like more memory and a camera.....then after a further 12 months they might add a USB port and an SD card port. So what in effect they are doing is providing an ongoing market for their product, and selling far more of them in the long run, because people will keep buying again every time they add features. This marketing approach is not unique to Apple, it happens with lots of other manufacturers. Like I said, it sucks, but they are in business to make money, and this is a strategy to keep them profitable....which in turn will allow them to produce more and more ground-breaking new products.
I still love Apple, and will get an iPad, but will wait a bit on this one.
Tpex, I didn,t say it was crap - it is a very good product that I WILL purchase, just not right now. I will wait until they add the features that they are fully capable of adding right now, but are not, due to marketing strategy.
I understand their marketing strategy, but it sucks if you are a consumer - Apple are fully capable of providing a unit with way more features......however, they are keeping their shareholders happy in the long run. What I mean is...people will rush out and buy an iPad, then in 6 to 12 months time they will add more "must have "features" like more memory and a camera.....then after a further 12 months they might add a USB port and an SD card port. So what in effect they are doing is providing an ongoing market for their product, and selling far more of them in the long run, because people will keep buying again every time they add features. This marketing approach is not unique to Apple, it happens with lots of other manufacturers. Like I said, it sucks, but they are in business to make money, and this is a strategy to keep them profitable....which in turn will allow them to produce more and more ground-breaking new products.
I still love Apple, and will get an iPad, but will wait a bit on this one.
Tpex, I didn,t say it was crap - it is a very good product that I WILL purchase, just not right now. I will wait until they add the features that they are fully capable of adding right now, but are not, due to marketing strategy.
Biscuit1018
07-03-2010, 09:18 AM
Uhhhh, Tom....'scuze me, but you have the dates screwed up. The date in early April will be when it will be available in the USA. Jobs told us the international versions of the iPad will be available one month AFTER the USA.
As for me.....I love apple products, I have 3 iPhones, iTouch, 2 iPods, 2 iMacs, and one macbook Pro.....but this one I will pass on - until they get up to speed with a few items. More memory, a USB slot, SD card slot, a front mounted camera (so it could actually be useful with skype), also a better operating system - I would like to see it with the full OSX leopard.
I am also an Apple lover. iMac, Mini (for media centre), iPhone, Apple Wireless Network X5, lots of iPods
I share your views in the main and a lot of your wishes may come to pass.... except one.
OSX - Yes I also want it but I am not going to get it. If you do that then the iPad becomes a competitor of the MacBook and they will never allow that.
This device is for people that want that in-between device, surfing the web, reading books, checking email etc and most importantly using the iPad applications that will come to pass. Thed kind of device you take with you areound the house and on the road but strictly one where there is no hevy lifting to be done.
The front mounting camera is an exclusion I don't understand. Also the lack of a USB port
Everything else that people are complaining about don't understand what the device is for fro a business perspective.
Apple won't make a cheaper, lower margin device that will cannibalize their own products. It makes no business sense.
So they want you to have the iPod, iPhone, Ipad, MacBook and if you are really geeky (like me) an iMac as well.
I will hold out for the 2nd generation but I will cave in and get one
As for me.....I love apple products, I have 3 iPhones, iTouch, 2 iPods, 2 iMacs, and one macbook Pro.....but this one I will pass on - until they get up to speed with a few items. More memory, a USB slot, SD card slot, a front mounted camera (so it could actually be useful with skype), also a better operating system - I would like to see it with the full OSX leopard.
I am also an Apple lover. iMac, Mini (for media centre), iPhone, Apple Wireless Network X5, lots of iPods
I share your views in the main and a lot of your wishes may come to pass.... except one.
OSX - Yes I also want it but I am not going to get it. If you do that then the iPad becomes a competitor of the MacBook and they will never allow that.
This device is for people that want that in-between device, surfing the web, reading books, checking email etc and most importantly using the iPad applications that will come to pass. Thed kind of device you take with you areound the house and on the road but strictly one where there is no hevy lifting to be done.
The front mounting camera is an exclusion I don't understand. Also the lack of a USB port
Everything else that people are complaining about don't understand what the device is for fro a business perspective.
Apple won't make a cheaper, lower margin device that will cannibalize their own products. It makes no business sense.
So they want you to have the iPod, iPhone, Ipad, MacBook and if you are really geeky (like me) an iMac as well.
I will hold out for the 2nd generation but I will cave in and get one
Pixual
07-03-2010, 10:14 AM
FFS, if you want USB ports and cameras and memory slots then get a freaking computer. It's not hard to understand. Really it isn't.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
ghoti
07-03-2010, 10:20 AM
FFS, if you want USB ports and cameras and memory slots then get a freaking computer. It's not hard to understand. Really it isn't.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
One would think in a "media convenience" roll.. it would have support for ...ummm....media :D
It must suck if you want to use this for photography... you cant just pop your sd card or flash disk in to get media onto the device.
Also.. its sunday. Chill :)
No multitasking really is sad, I guess thats not a requirement for the average user of an iPad, but it sure would be nice to be in a Skype call and be able to open an office document as well :)
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
One would think in a "media convenience" roll.. it would have support for ...ummm....media :D
It must suck if you want to use this for photography... you cant just pop your sd card or flash disk in to get media onto the device.
Also.. its sunday. Chill :)
No multitasking really is sad, I guess thats not a requirement for the average user of an iPad, but it sure would be nice to be in a Skype call and be able to open an office document as well :)
Pixual
07-03-2010, 02:46 PM
It is quite possible to stream media to your iPad, including all your photos, music and movies, from a Mac server (any Mac will perform this function). In fact, if you want to, you can quite easily control your Mac and all the applications on it, including editing programs, etc, by loading your desktop via the same remote server. I can do this right now on my iPod Touch, but the screen is a little bit small.
As a professional photographer myself, I can see this perhaps working very well in a studio environment using remote tethering with something like onOne's Remote DSLR app. Granted you will still have to have your MacBook to connect the DSLR to, but with Live View for product work it will be pretty awesome.
You need to view the iPod as being a remote interface for your main computer and media servers, rather than being a stand alone computer. That is not what it is designed for. That's what laptops are for.
As a professional photographer myself, I can see this perhaps working very well in a studio environment using remote tethering with something like onOne's Remote DSLR app. Granted you will still have to have your MacBook to connect the DSLR to, but with Live View for product work it will be pretty awesome.
You need to view the iPod as being a remote interface for your main computer and media servers, rather than being a stand alone computer. That is not what it is designed for. That's what laptops are for.
ghoti
07-03-2010, 02:56 PM
Mac server.. ouch.. thats like a French tank.
So Apple created a niche device only useful to people who have lots of mac items already... that doesnt support basic usb or sd cards. Its more useless than a phone. Saying that, if I had several spare million to blow, I would waste money on that :)
So Apple created a niche device only useful to people who have lots of mac items already... that doesnt support basic usb or sd cards. Its more useless than a phone. Saying that, if I had several spare million to blow, I would waste money on that :)
bwana
07-03-2010, 03:11 PM
It must suck if you want to use this for photography... you cant just pop your sd card or flash disk in to get media onto the device.Sorry but it's not going to be a hardship to plug my camera in via the dock connector.
Mac server.. ouch.. thats like a French tank.
So Apple created a niche device only useful to people who have lots of mac items already... that doesnt support basic usb or sd cards. Its more useless than a phone. Saying that, if I had several spare million to blow, I would waste money on that :)I stream all my digital content from mac and pc. Very little needed in terms of additional software.
Mac server.. ouch.. thats like a French tank.
So Apple created a niche device only useful to people who have lots of mac items already... that doesnt support basic usb or sd cards. Its more useless than a phone. Saying that, if I had several spare million to blow, I would waste money on that :)I stream all my digital content from mac and pc. Very little needed in terms of additional software.
Pixual
07-03-2010, 03:15 PM
Macs are for consumers who don't like to screw around with drivers and BSOD's.
I think the iPad may not be as popular as the iPhone, but it will definitely be more useful around the home. Take a look at some of the thousands of apps you can get for i-devices in the itunes store - they are amazing.
What this thing does is allow you to compute without being at your desk and without the frustrations of a small screen. You can use a netbook, but the ergonomics are not very good. I think I will be buying an entry level iPad, depending on how much Core decide to rip us for one.
I think the iPad may not be as popular as the iPhone, but it will definitely be more useful around the home. Take a look at some of the thousands of apps you can get for i-devices in the itunes store - they are amazing.
What this thing does is allow you to compute without being at your desk and without the frustrations of a small screen. You can use a netbook, but the ergonomics are not very good. I think I will be buying an entry level iPad, depending on how much Core decide to rip us for one.
ghoti
07-03-2010, 03:20 PM
Macs are for consumers who don't like to screw around with drivers and BSOD's.
or usb ports...
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
Personally I think Jobs lost the plot on the device. Beautiful in theory and possibility, extremely terrible in practicality.
I have to admit, your "no bsod" comment holds water, I mean, thats why I use my Sharp Calculator. Its also Bsod free :) It just doesnt do much.
I really hope future generations of Ipad are more practical... cause it has loads of potential.
or usb ports...
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
Personally I think Jobs lost the plot on the device. Beautiful in theory and possibility, extremely terrible in practicality.
I have to admit, your "no bsod" comment holds water, I mean, thats why I use my Sharp Calculator. Its also Bsod free :) It just doesnt do much.
I really hope future generations of Ipad are more practical... cause it has loads of potential.
bwana
07-03-2010, 04:36 PM
As a professional photographer myself, I can see this perhaps working very well in a studio environment using remote tethering with something like onOne's Remote DSLR app. Granted you will still have to have your MacBook to connect the DSLR to, but with Live View for product work it will be pretty awesome.You can already move images to your iphone via wifi, edit and tag, and then upload them to the destination of your choice. No computer required. Just think what else you'll be able to do with the iPad's hardware.
BobJones
07-03-2010, 05:53 PM
or usb ports...
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
<snip>
A quick read of the iPad spec page (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/) reveals ... iPad Camera Connection Kit providing both USB and SD card connectivity via the dock connector. There has always been background execution in iPhone OS - but only for certain apps in certain situations.
As for Macs - they do all the things you mention - although sometimes I wish that flash worked a whole lot better.
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
<snip>
A quick read of the iPad spec page (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/) reveals ... iPad Camera Connection Kit providing both USB and SD card connectivity via the dock connector. There has always been background execution in iPhone OS - but only for certain apps in certain situations.
As for Macs - they do all the things you mention - although sometimes I wish that flash worked a whole lot better.
ghoti
07-03-2010, 06:05 PM
A quick read of the iPad spec page (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/) reveals ... iPad Camera Connection Kit providing both USB and SD card connectivity via the dock connector. There has always been background execution in iPhone OS - but only for certain apps in certain situations.
As for Macs - they do all the things you mention - although sometimes I wish that flash worked a whole lot better.
Im sure Macs do what they want them to do, lol. I own one so I should know :)
Are people really silly enough to use mac as a server? Does it offer some special benefit that better and free server OS`s dont offer? Or is it just for gullible people?
As for Macs - they do all the things you mention - although sometimes I wish that flash worked a whole lot better.
Im sure Macs do what they want them to do, lol. I own one so I should know :)
Are people really silly enough to use mac as a server? Does it offer some special benefit that better and free server OS`s dont offer? Or is it just for gullible people?
BobJones
07-03-2010, 06:22 PM
I think that instead of "server" writers meant "media hub". iPad is clearly an extension of a mac in the same way as iPod, iPhone and AppleTV, but recent revisions of all of these can be used as standalone devices (if you get your media from the iTunes Store).
There is nothing to say that free = better, certainly as far as server OSes go.
Snow Leopard Server is an impressive product with a short first boot to productivity cycle - much shorter and easier than a LAMP machine.
There is nothing to say that free = better, certainly as far as server OSes go.
Snow Leopard Server is an impressive product with a short first boot to productivity cycle - much shorter and easier than a LAMP machine.
Pixual
07-03-2010, 06:58 PM
Im sure Macs do what they want them to do, lol. I own one so I should know :)
Are people really silly enough to use mac as a server? Does it offer some special benefit that better and free server OS`s dont offer? Or is it just for gullible people?
Aw come on, dude. We're not running ATM networks or NASA launches with them. They function just perfectly for home use. They serve up files and media without any requirement for a tech.
Are people really silly enough to use mac as a server? Does it offer some special benefit that better and free server OS`s dont offer? Or is it just for gullible people?
Aw come on, dude. We're not running ATM networks or NASA launches with them. They function just perfectly for home use. They serve up files and media without any requirement for a tech.
Tpex
07-03-2010, 08:25 PM
I got nothing against Mac, great hardware and OS, but the iGranade and iTampon are disgraces to Apple, and FYI I have not had a BSOD in 6 months or longer (XP SP3)
Nuro
07-03-2010, 10:28 PM
or usb ports...
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
Personally I think Jobs lost the plot on the device. Beautiful in theory and possibility, extremely terrible in practicality.
I have to admit, your "no bsod" comment holds water, I mean, thats why I use my Sharp Calculator. Its also Bsod free :) It just doesnt do much.
I really hope future generations of Ipad are more practical... cause it has loads of potential.
Or run apps that are not "approved" by apple.
or multi tasking...
or flash video...
or. sd cards..
Personally I think Jobs lost the plot on the device. Beautiful in theory and possibility, extremely terrible in practicality.
I have to admit, your "no bsod" comment holds water, I mean, thats why I use my Sharp Calculator. Its also Bsod free :) It just doesnt do much.
I really hope future generations of Ipad are more practical... cause it has loads of potential.
Or run apps that are not "approved" by apple.
ghoti
07-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Aw come on, dude. We're not running ATM networks or NASA launches with them. They function just perfectly for home use. They serve up files and media without any requirement for a tech.
So an expensive and complicated NAS box :D
So an expensive and complicated NAS box :D
VertigoZA
07-03-2010, 10:44 PM
FFS, if you want USB ports and cameras and memory slots then get a freaking computer. It's not hard to understand. Really it isn't.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
I'm so glad there are people who get it.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
I'm so glad there are people who get it.
bwana
08-03-2010, 12:01 AM
I got nothing against Mac, great hardware and OS, but the iGranade and iTampon are disgraces to Apple, and FYI I have not had a BSOD in 6 months or longer (XP SP3)Disgraces? If I could actually figure out which products you're actually referring to it might be worth refuting.
Stuyvesante
08-03-2010, 12:42 AM
ME thinking...Google Pad with android :) o and USB. for half the price.
Pixual
08-03-2010, 08:34 AM
FYI I have not had a BSOD in 6 months or longer (XP SP3)
Sounds like you are at an AA meeting. Do Microsoft issue you "chips" for the number of days your system can manage without crashing?
Sounds like you are at an AA meeting. Do Microsoft issue you "chips" for the number of days your system can manage without crashing?
Tpex
08-03-2010, 07:13 PM
Disgraces? If I could actually figure out which products you're actually referring to it might be worth refuting.
iPhone = iGrenade
iTampon = iPad
ME thinking...Google Pad with android :) o and USB. for half the price.
will be awesome
Sounds like you are at an AA meeting. Do Microsoft issue you "chips" for the number of days your system can manage without crashing?
Oh your an apple fanboi? I just know how to use and care for a PC, I don't need a locked down kiddie system encase I Break something :p
and I figgerd out why its called an iPad, because its not a tablet PC, else it would be called the iTablet (how imaginative Apple is)
iPhone = iGrenade
iTampon = iPad
ME thinking...Google Pad with android :) o and USB. for half the price.
will be awesome
Sounds like you are at an AA meeting. Do Microsoft issue you "chips" for the number of days your system can manage without crashing?
Oh your an apple fanboi? I just know how to use and care for a PC, I don't need a locked down kiddie system encase I Break something :p
and I figgerd out why its called an iPad, because its not a tablet PC, else it would be called the iTablet (how imaginative Apple is)
seted
08-03-2010, 07:43 PM
The Adam from Notion Ink looks very interesting. I was hoping that the Ipad would be a good alternative to the Kindle, but the Adam seems to offer a much better media experience than either of them; without the patronising, control freak attitude that Apple has.
Sputnik
08-03-2010, 08:31 PM
iPhone = iGrenade
iTampon = iPad
will be awesome
Oh your an apple fanboi? I just know how to use and care for a PC, I don't need a locked down kiddie system encase I Break something :p
and I figgerd out why its called an iPad, because its not a tablet PC, else it would be called the iTablet (how imaginative Apple is)
This discussion is moot.
Remember when the iPod was first released? Probably not...
1st gen ipod was firewire only, no windows support, required itunes 2.0 for OS9 (nobody ran OSX 10.1 at the time), no support for photos, videos etc. Even when it was released for windows, you still needed a firewire card to connect to a pc.
Flash forward to today. 10 Billion songs sold in tunes, Ipod touch, Iphone and the list goes on.
Don't bury the iPad until it's released and we know what it can do.
Bwana's very valid point, leave revision 1 for somebody else to find out.
iTampon = iPad
will be awesome
Oh your an apple fanboi? I just know how to use and care for a PC, I don't need a locked down kiddie system encase I Break something :p
and I figgerd out why its called an iPad, because its not a tablet PC, else it would be called the iTablet (how imaginative Apple is)
This discussion is moot.
Remember when the iPod was first released? Probably not...
1st gen ipod was firewire only, no windows support, required itunes 2.0 for OS9 (nobody ran OSX 10.1 at the time), no support for photos, videos etc. Even when it was released for windows, you still needed a firewire card to connect to a pc.
Flash forward to today. 10 Billion songs sold in tunes, Ipod touch, Iphone and the list goes on.
Don't bury the iPad until it's released and we know what it can do.
Bwana's very valid point, leave revision 1 for somebody else to find out.
surfs-up
08-03-2010, 08:51 PM
FFS, if you want USB ports and cameras and memory slots then get a freaking computer. It's not hard to understand. Really it isn't.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
That was a dumb outburst.....let me explain, and I can't draw pictures here to explain for you, so please try to understand. If the iPad does NOT have USB ports, or memory slots etc then there is NO reason to get one - my iPhone and iTouch does the same thing on a slightly smaller screen !!!! For $ 50.00 worth of extra components, they would have a winner, and have a product that would have greater appeal. Jobs even said - the iPad is supposed to slot firmly between the iTouch and the MacBook - but IMHO it will slot directly on top of the iTouch, and very, very far from the MacBook !!!!
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc. Apple are known to be on top of their game when it comes to marketing - they know how to make max turnover off one product.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
That was a dumb outburst.....let me explain, and I can't draw pictures here to explain for you, so please try to understand. If the iPad does NOT have USB ports, or memory slots etc then there is NO reason to get one - my iPhone and iTouch does the same thing on a slightly smaller screen !!!! For $ 50.00 worth of extra components, they would have a winner, and have a product that would have greater appeal. Jobs even said - the iPad is supposed to slot firmly between the iTouch and the MacBook - but IMHO it will slot directly on top of the iTouch, and very, very far from the MacBook !!!!
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc. Apple are known to be on top of their game when it comes to marketing - they know how to make max turnover off one product.
Gargmel
09-03-2010, 03:50 AM
I have an ipod touch and it is the biggest white elephant I own. A pretty useless gadget. Bought it, used it for a week or two then it ended up in a drawer for a year or so. Dug it out about a week ago to use it as an ebook reader (stanza). For that it is ok but a bit small. But for the price I paid for the thing it is a complete waste, no way I will buy an iPad.
Pixual
09-03-2010, 09:48 AM
I have an ipod touch and it is the biggest white elephant I own. A pretty useless gadget. Bought it, used it for a week or two then it ended up in a drawer for a year or so. Dug it out about a week ago to use it as an ebook reader (stanza). For that it is ok but a bit small. But for the price I paid for the thing it is a complete waste, no way I will buy an iPad.
How much do you want for your iPod Touch? I have found it to be the most useful gadget I have ever bought and would like a second one with more capacity. Mine is an 8GB 1st gen.
How much do you want for your iPod Touch? I have found it to be the most useful gadget I have ever bought and would like a second one with more capacity. Mine is an 8GB 1st gen.
bwana
09-03-2010, 09:56 AM
That was a dumb outburst.....let me explain, and I can't draw pictures here to explain for you, so please try to understand. If the iPad does NOT have USB ports, or memory slots etc then there is NO reason to get one - my iPhone and iTouch does the same thing on a slightly smaller screen !!!! For $ 50.00 worth of extra components, they would have a winner, and have a product that would have greater appeal.If you need to attach a camera or a card reader you do so via the dock connector which makes much more sense than a built in SD card reader which many amateur and professional photographers cant use anyway.
This isnt a new model. Apple did exactly the same thing with the iPod Photo.
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc.
The one thing I see apple adding is a webcam - everything else you mention is doubtful. They didnt do it with the iPhone and they wont do it with the iPad.
This isnt a new model. Apple did exactly the same thing with the iPod Photo.
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc.
The one thing I see apple adding is a webcam - everything else you mention is doubtful. They didnt do it with the iPhone and they wont do it with the iPad.
Gargmel
09-03-2010, 10:21 AM
How much do you want for your iPod Touch? I have found it to be the most useful gadget I have ever bought and would like a second one with more capacity. Mine is an 8GB 1st gen.
Mine is an 8gb 1gen too though...
Mine is an 8gb 1gen too though...
Pixual
09-03-2010, 02:45 PM
R500 in your pocket is better than R500 in your drawer. :D
Gargmel
09-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Well, it is a bit more in my drawer...;)
cerebus
09-03-2010, 04:15 PM
I use my 32gb ipod touch every day constantly - movie watching, mp3 listening, ebook reading, light gaming. I thought lack of usb was a biggie at first as well - then I can't really find any reason for it to have a usb port. What would you plug in? A camera? It'll be tethered to iTunes anyway and I can zip pics onto the iTouch pretty easily that way. A webcam? You'd have driver issues - I foresee that being added to the sync port. Flash drive? I dunno perhaps I guess...again there's the spectre of driver issues. I think I'd get one of these things if I could and I believe it would be quite handy. Now expandable memory there's something that would be useful, I can certainly see that.
VertigoZA
09-03-2010, 04:15 PM
That was a dumb outburst.....let me explain, and I can't draw pictures here to explain for you, so please try to understand. If the iPad does NOT have USB ports, or memory slots etc then there is NO reason to get one - my iPhone and iTouch does the same thing on a slightly smaller screen !!!! For $ 50.00 worth of extra components, they would have a winner, and have a product that would have greater appeal. Jobs even said - the iPad is supposed to slot firmly between the iTouch and the MacBook - but IMHO it will slot directly on top of the iTouch, and very, very far from the MacBook !!!!
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc. Apple are known to be on top of their game when it comes to marketing - they know how to make max turnover off one product.
Man, you sound as if you're being forced to by a freakin' iPad.. are you? If you don't want one, don't buy one. Why do you feel the need to tell everyone why you think it's such a crap product? We don't care. really. I promise.
But, yes, as I said in an earlier post in this thread - the iPad WILL get all those features I mentioned like USB, memory slots, camera etc - it will just be a matter of time. They will sell 20 million of the bare bones ones, then add features and sell 20 million more, then add more features and sell another 20 million etc. Apple are known to be on top of their game when it comes to marketing - they know how to make max turnover off one product.
Man, you sound as if you're being forced to by a freakin' iPad.. are you? If you don't want one, don't buy one. Why do you feel the need to tell everyone why you think it's such a crap product? We don't care. really. I promise.
Fudzy
09-03-2010, 04:20 PM
How much are they going to be here after they've been through the local profiteers?
assagai
09-03-2010, 04:22 PM
yeah i also don't get all the hate, people losing their minds cos there's no usb slot etc.
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
cerebus
09-03-2010, 04:34 PM
Yeah sorry but $500 at the low end is very respectably priced.
Bizkit87
09-03-2010, 04:37 PM
FFS, if you want USB ports and cameras and memory slots then get a freaking computer. It's not hard to understand. Really it isn't.
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
like interacting with flash based .... o wait :p
This is a gadget designed for media convenience, not for computing.
like interacting with flash based .... o wait :p
bwana
09-03-2010, 04:48 PM
There are alternatives to flash you know. ;)
Fudzy
09-03-2010, 04:49 PM
yeah i also don't get all the hate, people losing their minds cos there's no usb slot etc.
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
So it's an ebook? Right.
Does the iPad give you free local 3G? Like the Kindle?
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
So it's an ebook? Right.
Does the iPad give you free local 3G? Like the Kindle?
Fudzy
09-03-2010, 04:57 PM
There are alternatives to flash you know. ;)
Does the iPad support HTML5 and h.264 decoding?
Interesting read: http://tiffanybbrown.com/2010/02/04/on-apples-ipad-html5-and-the-future-of-flash/
Does the iPad support HTML5 and h.264 decoding?
Interesting read: http://tiffanybbrown.com/2010/02/04/on-apples-ipad-html5-and-the-future-of-flash/
assagai
09-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Well, the kindle can't stream my entire music/video library from my mac using an app, like the ipad can, but that doesn't mean i hate the kindle. No-one is forcing anyone to buy the iPad, i'm surprised by the rabid anti-ipad meme out there. There are plenty of comparable devices with various pros and cons.
Tpex
09-03-2010, 05:54 PM
yeah i also don't get all the hate, people losing their minds cos there's no usb slot etc.
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
eInk screen? NOT! so its not an eBook reader
like interacting with flash based .... o wait :p
The biggest Fail of all
There are alternatives to flash you know. ;)
Like all the flash based sites give a damn....
It's clearly not a netbook/laptop, and when you compare it against other devices in the same category it actually comes off quite well
http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Apple-iPad-price-expensive-chart-for-that-ebook-competition-comparison.png
eInk screen? NOT! so its not an eBook reader
like interacting with flash based .... o wait :p
The biggest Fail of all
There are alternatives to flash you know. ;)
Like all the flash based sites give a damn....
assagai
09-03-2010, 06:06 PM
eInk screen? NOT! so its not an eBook reader
The biggest Fail of all
Like all the flash based sites give a damn....
who says e-ink is the defining characteristic of an e-reader?
anyway it's clear some people are intent on bashing the device with no good reason as far as i can see (no-one freaked out that the kindle didn't have flash support, or an email client, or..or...), so get to it!
The biggest Fail of all
Like all the flash based sites give a damn....
who says e-ink is the defining characteristic of an e-reader?
anyway it's clear some people are intent on bashing the device with no good reason as far as i can see (no-one freaked out that the kindle didn't have flash support, or an email client, or..or...), so get to it!
Tpex
09-03-2010, 06:09 PM
who says e-ink is the defining characteristic of an e-reader?
anyway it's clear some people are intent on bashing the device with no good reason as far as i can see (no-one freaked out that the kindle didn't have flash support), so get to it!
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes.....
An e-book reader, also called an e-book device or e-reader, is an electronic device that is designed primarily for the purpose of reading digital books and periodicals and uses e-ink technology to display content to readers. The main advantages of these devices are portability, readability of their screens in bright sunlight, and long battery life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
anyway it's clear some people are intent on bashing the device with no good reason as far as i can see (no-one freaked out that the kindle didn't have flash support), so get to it!
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes.....
An e-book reader, also called an e-book device or e-reader, is an electronic device that is designed primarily for the purpose of reading digital books and periodicals and uses e-ink technology to display content to readers. The main advantages of these devices are portability, readability of their screens in bright sunlight, and long battery life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
Pixual
09-03-2010, 06:09 PM
I think we'll probably see them start at around R5k and go up to around R9k. I'll just use a cheap one around the house on Wi-Fi for those times when sitting at the desk or having a laptop on my lap isn't really convenient.
It will be amazing to have for home automation if anyone ever thought of building an application around it. Outside buzzer rings, iPad flashes the feed from the camera onto the screen. Speak through intercom to visitor. Push button A to open the gate, or push button B to unleash the dobermans. :)
I really like that you can use it to access your shared iTunes libraries on Wi-Fi, as well as stream media to it from other computers and libraries in your network. It will be an awesome remote control for a DSLR using onOne.
It will be amazing to have for home automation if anyone ever thought of building an application around it. Outside buzzer rings, iPad flashes the feed from the camera onto the screen. Speak through intercom to visitor. Push button A to open the gate, or push button B to unleash the dobermans. :)
I really like that you can use it to access your shared iTunes libraries on Wi-Fi, as well as stream media to it from other computers and libraries in your network. It will be an awesome remote control for a DSLR using onOne.
Pixual
09-03-2010, 06:11 PM
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
Not everyone has super-sensitive eyes like you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
Not everyone has super-sensitive eyes like you.
assagai
09-03-2010, 06:16 PM
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
That lcd argument is nonsense, i read on lcd screens all day long with no pain. I read on the iphone/blackberry, i used to read on the nokia... no pain. Maybe you need to see a doctor?
The jury is still out on the daylight display quality of the ipad, we'll have to wait and see. It definitely is a book reader (although not by your narrow definition), but clearly it's also more. I don't recall reading anywhere that apple claimed to be making a tablet pc, just a lot of rumours and speculation. Anyway i look forward to it, even just to use as a mutlitouch control surface for my DAW, the iphone already does a great job at that but it's gonna kickass on that big display. I think we'll see some killer apps for audio professionals on this device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers
Because the kindle is an eBook reader, the iPad was suppost to be a Tablet PC
That lcd argument is nonsense, i read on lcd screens all day long with no pain. I read on the iphone/blackberry, i used to read on the nokia... no pain. Maybe you need to see a doctor?
The jury is still out on the daylight display quality of the ipad, we'll have to wait and see. It definitely is a book reader (although not by your narrow definition), but clearly it's also more. I don't recall reading anywhere that apple claimed to be making a tablet pc, just a lot of rumours and speculation. Anyway i look forward to it, even just to use as a mutlitouch control surface for my DAW, the iphone already does a great job at that but it's gonna kickass on that big display. I think we'll see some killer apps for audio professionals on this device.
dziewiecki
09-03-2010, 10:57 PM
I have to say that i would run to the shops to purchace the ipad if it had a microphone and camera for skype.
My question would be why doesn't the iphone have a forward facing camera for video calls. It is the one feature i would really love to see on the iphone. (especially if you could use it with skype on the iphone)
The ipad seems to me like a larger iphone without the phone which would make it a large ipod touch.
Also if the ipad comes with 3g then in SA you would need a sim card and then it should also make calls and again making the ipad a big iphone.
It is a great gadget that needs to be developed further to get the most out of what it truly needs cause to be honest if you have a netbook it already does much more than the ipad.
Other manufacturers are coming up with very similar devices with the extra usb and sd slots and cameras yet i do not trust these until i see them working.
I think i'm going to wait with the ipad and only if temptation wins or the lottery goes my way this week will i get one without a camera.
My question would be why doesn't the iphone have a forward facing camera for video calls. It is the one feature i would really love to see on the iphone. (especially if you could use it with skype on the iphone)
The ipad seems to me like a larger iphone without the phone which would make it a large ipod touch.
Also if the ipad comes with 3g then in SA you would need a sim card and then it should also make calls and again making the ipad a big iphone.
It is a great gadget that needs to be developed further to get the most out of what it truly needs cause to be honest if you have a netbook it already does much more than the ipad.
Other manufacturers are coming up with very similar devices with the extra usb and sd slots and cameras yet i do not trust these until i see them working.
I think i'm going to wait with the ipad and only if temptation wins or the lottery goes my way this week will i get one without a camera.
bwana
10-03-2010, 07:40 AM
Like all the flash based sites give a damn....They should. No website should want to alienate that many users.
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes…..Why don't you try then report back.
Does the iPad give you free local 3G? Like the Kindle?I doubt they will - the kindle is text only while the iPad is a multimedia device - text, audio, video, etc. Vodacom or MTN will want money for all that data.
Ok try and read a whole book on that screen, enjoy the pain in your eyes…..Why don't you try then report back.
Does the iPad give you free local 3G? Like the Kindle?I doubt they will - the kindle is text only while the iPad is a multimedia device - text, audio, video, etc. Vodacom or MTN will want money for all that data.
Fudzy
10-03-2010, 10:47 AM
They should. No website should want to alienate that many users.
Why don't you try then report back.
I doubt they will - the kindle is text only while the iPad is a multimedia device - text, audio, video, etc. Vodacom or MTN will want money for all that data.
Well the iPad doesn't have any GSM support so that argument is moot.
Why don't you try then report back.
I doubt they will - the kindle is text only while the iPad is a multimedia device - text, audio, video, etc. Vodacom or MTN will want money for all that data.
Well the iPad doesn't have any GSM support so that argument is moot.
cerebus
10-03-2010, 02:09 PM
I read all day on my iTouch with no eye strain - and I've been reading on lcd's for years. The major advantage of e-ink for me is outdoors readability - but the iTouch's screen is the best one I've used in that regard. iPad will be a fantastic ebook reader with or without e-ink. Actually I really wish e-ink had a backlight - because i read a lot in darker areas, where LCD is perfect.
bwana
10-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Well the iPad doesn't have any GSM support so that argument is moot.The 3G iPad supports GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz).
Have you actually read the spec sheet for the iPad? It might clear up a lot of your questions including those on HTML 5, h.264, and GSM. http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Have you actually read the spec sheet for the iPad? It might clear up a lot of your questions including those on HTML 5, h.264, and GSM. http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Tpex
10-03-2010, 09:44 PM
The ipad seems to me like a larger iphone without the phone which would make it a large ipod touch.
thats exactly what it is
thats exactly what it is
Fudzy
10-03-2010, 09:56 PM
The 3G iPad supports GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz).
Have you actually read the spec sheet for the iPad? It might clear up a lot of your questions including those on HTML 5, h.264, and GSM. http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Thanks, I didn't realise there was a more expensive version which had GSM support.
Did you read my link regarding h.264?
Here's another:
http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/why_flash_isn_t_going_anywhere__ipad_be_damned/
Have you actually read the spec sheet for the iPad? It might clear up a lot of your questions including those on HTML 5, h.264, and GSM. http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Thanks, I didn't realise there was a more expensive version which had GSM support.
Did you read my link regarding h.264?
Here's another:
http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/why_flash_isn_t_going_anywhere__ipad_be_damned/
bwana
10-03-2010, 10:08 PM
Thanks, I didn't realise there was a more expensive version which had GSM support.
Did you read my link regarding h.264?
Here's another:
http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/why_flash_isn_t_going_anywhere__ipad_be_damned/Yes I did. Your question was
Does the iPad support HTML5 and h.264 decoding?The answer is yes.
Did you read my link regarding h.264?
Here's another:
http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/why_flash_isn_t_going_anywhere__ipad_be_damned/Yes I did. Your question was
Does the iPad support HTML5 and h.264 decoding?The answer is yes.