Keeper's please help me thread

[Keeper]

Hey guys - so I finally went over to the dark side, and joined the apple community - Yes, I got myself an iPhone (Yes PeterCH, your dream has finally come true, i'm on my way to become an apple fanboi :p)

Ok..so yes, I'm retarded with Apple hardware & software - so i'll be needing help from you pro's!

i've managed to hook myself up with a US iTunes account all by my own already - check
I'll be jailbreaking the phone in a week or two... after i've done some heavy reading on it


First things first though - my 3G doesn't work :(

Error says: "Could not activate cellular data network - You are not subscribed to a cellular data service" when i go to weather / youtube / etc.
my 3G is enabled in the network settings

i've tried an APN of internet, iphone.vodacom.za and iphone.internet.za


what's wrong with it?

- I have a 32k SIM - is that why?
- do I need to enable something on the SIM? Vodacom tells me "iPhone detected, settings not needed" or something?
- It's a prepaid Vodacom SIM

[Jabberwocky]

i`ve removed you from my friends list

[Keeper]

i`ve removed you from my friends list

lol why?


ok...another question - my girlfriend was playing with the phone now while i was reading mybb - and then suddenly she freaks out, I take the phone and all the icons had little red "X"es on them and they were shaking weirdly :wtf: WTF is this?

[Jabberwocky]

will you be sticking apple logos to your car now?

[P3wP3w]

Afaik, for the APN setting you just put in 'internet', I cant remember now :(

The shaking thing, is for when you want to move the icons around, the x on them is to remove them. Pressing the home button stops them doing that and by pressing on the screen for a few seconds they will start to shake.

Hope that made sense lol ^^

[COMPUTEK]

GOOD BYE friend..........

:eek:

[Keeper]

Afaik, for the APN setting you just put in 'internet', I cant remember now :(

The shaking thing, is for when you want to move the icons around, the x on them is to remove them. Pressing the home button stops them doing that and by pressing on the screen for a few seconds they will start to shake.

Hope that made sense lol ^^

Ah, thanx!

[Shake&Bake]

Enjoy your monotone "phone" and the endless hassles that will come along with it.
But then you've had a few already :rolleyes:

Good luck to you, for a heavy PC oke to move over to the Granny Smith; Patience you will need young seed.

[sand_man]

Best phone ever made... Enjoy it Keeper...

[Shake&Bake]

The apps and the jailbreak make it good, to a degree and at the end of the day it boils down to the apps.
Android will make inroads on Granny Smith's turf.
The capacitive screen is a plus too, but the rest of the draconian T&C's that limit the device is not worth it.

[bwana]

The apps and the jailbreak make it good, to a degree and at the end of the day it boils down to the apps.
Android will make inroads on Granny Smith's turf.
The capacitive screen is a plus too, but the rest of the draconian T&C's that limit the device is not worth it.So what are the rest of the draconian T&Cs that you're referring to?

[GrootBaas]

Changing the apn to internet will work, however you wont be able to use phone for internet tethering. Keep it on the iphone apn and activate it on vodacom4me to work.

Enjoy the phone, have had mine forabout two months and is truly amazing

[fxit_man]

just a tip on the jailbreaking to save you a lot of reading:

if you just bought a brand new iPhone, (i.e. came with 3.1.2 firmware out of the box), chances are about 99% that it is not fully jailbreakable. They call this a "tethered" jailbreak. Basically, every time you reboot the phone, you will have to run the jailbreak software again, otherwise you will have to restore the phone using iTunes.

This info is on the first post in the thread in my sig.

Enjoy the phone!

[Madman88]

i've tried an APN of internet, iphone.vodacom.za and iphone.internet.za


what's wrong with it?

- I have a 32k SIM - is that why?
- do I need to enable something on the SIM? Vodacom tells me "iPhone detected, settings not needed" or something?
- It's a prepaid Vodacom SIM

You need to have the iPhone api activated on your contract on Vodacom's side. Just call customer support.

[Keeper]

Thanx guys, 3G is sorted!

I check if the weather works, itunes did something on the phone and 1 app updated too - there goes a 10mb bundle :(

at least it's working now. :)

at work I get free wifi on the iphone though, so that's good at least :D

thanx for the help guys!!



just one question (and yes, ill do some reading, but i just wanna know quick)

Will I still be able to use itunes after a jailbreak? ive got the idea that if I hack it and connect with itunes it will detect or "know" it and "brick" it or something?

my boss upgraded to a new 3GS iphone and sold his to me - it has 3.1.3 on it..... can i go back to 3.1.0 or something if there are no tools to hack 3.1.3 yet?
Model: MB489SO

it has never been jailbreaked before as he was too afraid


so basically what should one NOT do when jailbreaking it - i'm an apple n00b remember

[fxit_man]

just one question (and yes, ill do some reading, but i just wanna know quick)

Will I still be able to use itunes after a jailbreak? ive got the idea that if I hack it and connect with itunes it will detect or "know" it and "brick" it or something?

my boss upgraded to a new 3GS iphone and sold his to me - it has 3.1.3 on it..... can i go back to 3.1.0 or something if there are no tools to hack 3.1.3 yet?
Model: MB489SO


[-]You might be in luck! You probably can do an untethered jailbreak on that! Check the 4th-5th digits of the serial number. If they are less than '45' then you are good to go.

I don't think it will let you downgrade, as Apple stopped signing the 3.1.2 firmware if i can recall correctly. Meaning it wont work.

You can jailbreak 3.1.3 at the moment, but the software is only released on Mac for now.. So you'll need to get a hold of a Mac. Alternatively, you can just find a "pwned" 3.1.3 custom firmware file on the net.

So what you would need to do it obtain this "pwned" 3.1.3 firmware file (which was made by someone using a Mac). Can find these on forums such as Xsellize (will try and find a link for you).

Then, put the phone into DFU mode (http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1034) mode, and in iTunes, simply hold shift while clicking on "Restore" in iTunes under the iPhone tab. Then browse to the firmware and it will restore your phone, but this time to a jailbroken state. Be sure to backup in iTunes as a restore is like a reformat (right click iPhone, backup), and you can restore from your backup after the restore.

So to round it up, find the custom 3.1.3 firmware (Make sure if it for the 3GS!!), put iPhone in DFU mode, and do as above.

If you get stuck, just press the "Restore" button without holding shift, and that will return the phone to a factory state.[/-]

A great site for tutorials is iClarified (http://iclarified.com/tutorials/iphone/index.php)

EDIT:

[-]just rememered SnowBreeze for Windows for jailbreaking 3.1.3
Give that a shot.

http://ih8sn0w.com/index.php/welcome.snow[/-]


I also see they have F0recast tool- which tells you whether you are able to jailbreak your phone tethered or non-tethered.

If it says "Tethered" = NO, then you are good to go!

So:

What you must do:


1) Download ForeCast tool to check if your iPhone ONLY supports a TETHERED jailbreak or not.

Using ForeCast tool:

If TETHERED = NO, then you CAN do a normal jailbreak --> this is the best. you can reboot the phone with no problems and jailbreak will retain.

IF TETHERED = YES[/color=red], then you can only do a TETHERED jailbreak..[/size]

TETHERED JAILBREAK = When the iTunes recovery logo appears every time you reboot the phone after jailbreaking with blackra1n RC3 or alternative.

You have two options:

- to re-run blackra1n RC3 every time you reboot the phone and are presented with this recovery logo (which proves very inconvenient)
- to restore the phone and lose the jailbreak

[-]2) Download SnowBreeze (for Windows) (http://ih8sn0w.com/index.php/welcome.snow) to jailbreak.[/-]

i'm gonna edit out all of this info until i have clarified some things.. do not want to misguide you here.

[Shake&Bake]

So what are the rest of the draconian T&Cs that you're referring to?

I was using a bit of tongue and cheek there, but the iPhone has it's limitations and it's an annoyance.

The fact that A2DP Bluetooth file transfer is limited. (if at all)
The fact that that you can't attach files with e-mails.
It will only really work well with apple and not other toys.

It's mindless hype which surrounds the headset which really doesn't impress me at all.

[Schwartz]

I was using a bit of tongue and cheek there, but the iPhone has it's limitations and it's an annoyance.

The fact that A2DP Bluetooth file transfer is limited. (if at all)
The fact that that you can't attach files with e-mails.
It will only really work well with apple and not other toys.

It's mindless hype which surrounds the headset which really doesn't impress me at all.

1) You can
2) It is not a business phone
3) False
4) Is this for real?

[Aqua_lung]

Welcome to the intelligent side, dark side it is not.

[Shake&Bake]

1) You can
2) It is not a business phone
3) False
4) Is this for real?


Well I've seen an iPhone3G send an mp3 via bluetooth, but cannot accept one.
Lame and neither is the Omnia, but it get's it done.
See point 1
Yes

[Schwartz]

Well I've seen an iPhone3G send an mp3 via bluetooth, but cannot accept one.
Lame and neither is the Omnia, but it get's it done.
See point 1
Yes


1) You can send to a from an iPhone to other devices via bluetooth
2) Are you really resorting to "comparing' the iPhone to an Omnia.. I am 100% positive the Nokia 3310 can do things the omnia cant.
3) See 3 below vv
4) /facepalm

AND FOR THE CONVERSATION WINNER:

It will only really work well with apple and not other toys.
3)Can find me another phone (that isnt dump) that can control my WINDOWS pc from where ever I am?

[Shake&Bake]

Sure that the 3310 can also forward texts unlike the iPhone in it's day.
I'm saying that a multimedia faceted phone that has you sending and receiving emails should at least allow for the facility to perform a rather minor task of adding an attachment.
The iPhone is hype and annoying, no multi-tasking tsk...

[Aqua_lung]

Sure that the 3310 can also forward texts unlike the iPhone in it's day.
I'm saying that a multimedia faceted phone that has you sending and receiving emails should at least allow for the facility to perform a rather minor task of adding an attachment.
The iPhone is hype and annoying, no multi-tasking tsk...

Well unfortuntely for you most people dont need a bloalted OS with half working features, there is an app available to do most things anyway. The iphone does not multitask as some may wish but listening to music while surfing the net or chatting is multitask enough for me.

[Schwartz]

no multi-tasking tsk...

Theres an app for that.. its called backgrounder... do some more research before making up stupid points

[Shake&Bake]

Yes there's always an app!
Why can it not perform the required tasks out of the box?
Anyway - I'm not going to respond here anymore.
Had my say and I'm done here.

[Madman88]

Teamviewer iPhone app FTW!!!

[fxit_man]

Teamviewer iPhone app FTW!!!

+1

[assagai]

Teamviewer iPhone app FTW!!!

agreed!

[Synaesthesia]

There's iBluetooth & iFile if you jailbreak, full access to the filesystem and bluetooth file sharing.

[Keeper]

Yes there's always an app!
Why can it not perform the required tasks out of the box?
Anyway - I'm not going to respond here anymore.
Had my say and I'm done here.

isn't that the point?

Windows has a crappy paint program - so get a better app - same with it's browser.
It can't ZIP/RAR? download an App!

that's what it's all about

The mere fact that you aren't stuck with out of the box features and can just "get an app to do it" is what makes this phone awesome. and if you look at app amount, apple Rules by a zillion miles

Anyway, I don't see why my retarded thread is a target for apple vs *whatever* battles - I just wanna learn all there is to this amazing phone :erm:

PS: Best app so far: Stanza

[Aqua_lung]

isn't that the point?

Windows has a crappy paint program - so get a better app - same with it's browser.
It can't ZIP/RAR? download an App!

that's what it's all about

The mere fact that you aren't stuck with out of the box features and can just "get an app to do it" is what makes this phone awesome. and if you look at app amount, apple Rules by a zillion miles

Anyway, I don't see why my retarded thread is a target for apple vs *whatever* battles - I just wanna learn all there is to this amazing phone :erm:

PS: Best app so far: Stanza

Where you not one of those iphone haterz? looks like the only hype is bad hype then since you like it now that you actually tried it.

[Keeper]

Always been an "apple hater", not an iPhone hater hehe


Quick question - i've got itunes at work - i've downloaded like 55 free apps, I right clicked and clicked "Show files" - I then copied these to a flash disk. can I go home and copy these into my "home itunes" applications folder? will it add the new apps and sync?

[bwana]

Always been an "apple hater", not an iPhone hater hehe


Quick question - i've got itunes at work - i've downloaded like 55 free apps, I right clicked and clicked "Show files" - I then copied these to a flash disk. can I go home and copy these into my "home itunes" applications folder? will it add the new apps and sync?Have you synced via the work pc?

[Aqua_lung]

Always been an "apple hater", not an iPhone hater hehe


Quick question - i've got itunes at work - i've downloaded like 55 free apps, I right clicked and clicked "Show files" - I then copied these to a flash disk. can I go home and copy these into my "home itunes" applications folder? will it add the new apps and sync?

You can authenticate 5 computers to one account, if they're both authenticated with the same account it will be fine, also home sharing allows you to share with more iphones, itouch.

[Keeper]

Have you synced via the work pc?

nope - then i lose everything from the home pc sync, right?
(i dont have a cable here anyway....)


ok - how can I get these downloaded apps from my work itunes to home itunes?

[Aqua_lung]

nope - then i lose everything from the home pc sync, right?
(i dont have a cable here anyway....)


ok - how can I get these downloaded apps from my work itunes to home itunes?
File>add to library.

[Gothan]

One thing you should get when/if you jailbreak, is lockinfo. Shows all your mails, sms', missed calls, twitter messages weather and so on right on the lockscreen