Cricket - ICC Twenty20 World Cup 2010

[killadoob]

Wow talk about suicide cricket.

Never seen so many people throw away their wickets this quickly before.

[synapseZA]

Even bangladesh put up a better challenge.

The indian top order still look vulnerable against quick short pitched stuff, much like they did last year in England. I remember in the Windies game back then Edwards and Bravo also got rid of the top order very quickly.

[lilggg]

Indias NRR is going to be like -5,gonna be hard for them to qualify.

[Khanya]

**Boring**


I hope WI vs SriL match gets heated up...

[lilggg]

Yip,supporting WI.

[SlyFly]

Looking better, for the NRR at least :)

[synapseZA]

135/10 in 17.4 Quite a poor showing from India. Supporting WI in the next game...

[Mike Hoxbig]

JK8 has conveniently disappeared :P

[killadoob]

He only pops in when we play kuk or one of his many many teams do well. How we lost to that kuk indian side i will never know.

[synapseZA]

Windies dropping a LOT of catches (3 so far).

[Mike Hoxbig]

He only pops in when we play kuk or one of his many many teams do well. How we lost to that kuk indian side i will never know.

Simple, one of their guys came off on the day. I doubt they'd pull it off again if we meet them, especially on the bouncier pitches.

[Sting]

Sri Lanka to get over 200 ???

[synapseZA]

Sri Lanka to get over 200 ???

Could be on I think, but these two need to bat for a while longer. SL do have quite a long tail if Murali comes in at 8...

[killadoob]

Hope so i want to see gayle rip them a new one.

[Mike Hoxbig]

Sri Lanka to get over 200 ???

Nah probably closer to 180, especially if Jayawardene gets out and the others have to play themselves in. There's been a tendency for the RR to drop between overs 12-16.

[synapseZA]

So unlucky for Jayawardene, no 100. Stranded on 98*. SL end on 195/3. Gayle needs to fire, for the Windies to get this I think...

[lilggg]

Have to bat first in T20.

[Sting]

Gayle and Chanderpaul out. Game over.

[Khanya]

Good innings Jayawardene... Big total... Gayle already gone! 32/2 *Thinks it's over.*

[Mike Hoxbig]

A bit off topic but I stumbled upon something that gave me the lulz:

LAHORE: DawnNews on Friday received the PCB inquiry committee report from its sources which confirmed that the alleged players openly accused each other on different issues.

Among the accusations were, former PCB coach Intikhab Alam's comments stating that some of the players in the team were 'mentally retarded'.

Faisal Hayat, the team’s medical doctor said that Umar Akmal pretended to have a back problem, especially since the tests did not prove his pain. He also said that Shoaib Malik and Salman Butt pretended to have injuries before a match in New Zealand.

On the other hand, Kamran Akmal defended his brother by saying that if Umar Akmal had no back injury why would he have been given an injection. Umer Akmal said he received the injury during a practice match in Hobart.

Younis Khan in his statement suggested that Umer Akmal should be fined for faking his injury.

The much criticized former captain Mohammad Yousuf also said that Umar Akmal faked the injury. Moreover, he told the tribunal that five players should be taken out of the team: Shoaib Malik and Umer Akmal for discipline and Fawad, Umer Gul and Kamran Akmal for poor performance.

Intikhab Alam also said that Rana Naveed’s integrity was 80 per cent doubtful, adding that Shoaib Malik was responsible for creating intrigues in the team.

Meanwhile, Shahid Afridi said that his father's tears were enough punishment for the ball tampering saga.

The team manager Mohammad Raqeeb criticized the captaincy of Mohammad Yousuf, while Shahid Afridi said that Yousuf never took responsibility for his decisions and rather shifted the blame on others.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/cricket/03-allegations-rampant-in-pcb-inquiry-report-ss-07

Haha JK8 supports a team where their own the coach considers them retarded :D

Shabaas shabaas!! (or whatever the wicki always says) lol

[Sting]

Tomorrow's games...

Sat 8 May - Barbados - Pakistan v New Zealand (15h30)
Sat 8 May - Barbados - England v South Africa (19h30)

[JK8]

I haven't disappeared SL back to their ol selfs. India just lost the game when they won the toss and decided to field.
Pakis ayyyy shame I dunno... I enjoyed the Pakis bowling and now since Waqars coaching them they bowl like crap... The same bowlers that won the last WC and they bowling like amateurs!!!
I still say Pakis will beat SA and NZ! SA will lose to England again as usual.

[Khanya]

Lolz @ OT...
South Africa have to bat first tomorrow!

[Mike Hoxbig]

I'd tap this Crystal Arnold chic. Weird nose and looks like she has down syndrome, but look at those tits!

[lilggg]

I'd tap this Crystal Arnold chic. Weird nose and looks like she has down syndrome, but look at those tits!

+1,and irritating.

[lilggg]

Look at her here,the top pic doesnt look too bad.

http://www.gsport.co.za/september-woman-in-media-crystal-arnold.html

[Sting]

Look at her here,the top pic doesnt look too bad.

http://www.gsport.co.za/september-woman-in-media-crystal-arnold.html

photoshopped!!!!

[Khanya]

She's still really hot though when seen on TV doing her thang.

[JK8]

She looks like a goat...

[Mike Hoxbig]

She looks like a goat...

Focus man! With a rack and body like that, who cares!

Maybe you're the type of guy who likes to 'make love' :P

[lilggg]

LOL,shopped.

[Mike Hoxbig]

Can't shop a live supersport feed :P

[Ronjay]

I hope England get a walloping. SA needs to take this cup at least. I would give my left nut to see the boys lift a trophy for once (hopefully this is it).

[lilggg]

But SABC can shop a live feed.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Pommies look dangerous, have to play at 100% to win this one

[killadoob]

Pommies look dangerous, have to play at 100% to win this one

We have to bat first!!!!!!!!!

Pommies have not been kind to us lately :D, let's hope we change that.

[Sting]

Today's games:

Sat 8 May - Barbados - Pakistan v New Zealand (15h30)
Sat 8 May - Barbados - England v South Africa (19h30)

[synapseZA]

There is some rain around Barbados (http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/290), lets hope it doesn't affect the games. Is the second game played on the same track as the first game? If it is, it is a big advantage to the team batting first in the second game, because they have an idea what a par score is on that wicket.

[killadoob]

Not really, par scores are never good. Simple really, if we chase a big total we need a good start.

Open with gibbs and kallis, i am not certain smithers would be in the team if he was not captain, looks chronically out of form.

[Sting]

Is the second game played on the same track as the first game?

Yes.

[JK8]

Go Pakis! :)

[LancelotSA]

Open with gibbs and kallis, i am not certain smithers would be in the team if he was not captain, looks chronically out of form.

What is this observation based on?

36 off 28 Slower strike rate than the rest but second highest score. Run out.
27 off 14 Top strike rate out of all SA batsmen
14 off 12 At a similar strike rate to all other players in the SA team besides Morkel

Gibbs on the other hand

DNB
DNB
30 off 24

[killadoob]

Why are you comparing him to gibbs who has played once? To me smithers looks out of form. Seen him bat far better and not look so awkward and dodgy.

Jk don't get to excited :D

[LancelotSA]

Why are you comparing him to gibbs who has played once? To me smithers looks out of form. Seen him bat far better and not look so awkward and dodgy.

Because you said open with Gibbs instead of Smith. If form was the only criteria then Gibbs should not be the obvious choice of replacement.

[Sting]

Not really, par scores are never good. Simple really, if we chase a big total we need a good start.

Open with gibbs and kallis, i am not certain smithers would be in the team if he was not captain, looks chronically out of form.

Did you not want Kallis dropped earlier this week?

[killadoob]

Because you said open with Gibbs instead of Smith. If form was the only criteria then Gibbs should not be the obvious choice of replacement.

I said open with gibbs and drop smithers to 3. Meaning kallis and gibbs to open. You should stop making stupid assumptions, i recall you telling me that.

I never said i want smith dropped moggie i said he looks out of form and if he was not the captain i am not sure he would be keeping his spot. Kallis needs to get dropped or start playing for the team yes.

[Sting]

Just checking!!

[killadoob]

Go Pakis! :)

Ya 3 down, shame i feel sorry for them.

[Sting]

@JK8: today Go Paki's, tomorrow Go Sri Lanka, India ...??? Grow a pair and support 1 team.

[killadoob]

@JK8: today Go Paki's, tomorrow Go Sri Lanka, India ...??? Grow a pair and support 1 team.

LOL Spot on!!!!!!!!!!!

[AirWolf]

Anyone know if SABC3 is showing the SA vs England match tonight?

[LancelotSA]

I said open with gibbs and drop smithers to 3. Meaning kallis and gibbs to open. You should stop making stupid assumptions, i recall you telling me that.

I never said i want smith dropped moggie i said he looks out of form and if he was not the captain i am not sure he would be keeping his spot. Kallis needs to get dropped or start playing for the team yes.

Ha ha ha well you see when someone says that he is not certain that "smithers would be in the team if he was not captain" and in the same sentence states we should open with Gibbs and Kallis I think it is rather reasonable to assume the person has a no desire for Smith to be in the team!

So Smith out. Kallis out. I, for one, am happy that killa is not a selector.

[killadoob]

I would imagine they will for sure, might be delayed due to the news but should show it.

So don't come here until it's on or look at cricinfo.

What is so wrong with kallis and gibbs opening? If gibbs can get going kallis can play his slow game and hold the innings together then the rest can smash the ball around him.

Kallis and smithers opening has been slow, we need someone to kick start the innings and if he goes early we back to square one which is not all that bad.

[LancelotSA]

Anyone know if SABC3 is showing the SA vs England match tonight?

I have no idea as their coverage shows England SA at 3pm today

http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=737&fChannel=6

[AirWolf]

I have no idea as their coverage shows England SA at 3pm today

http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=737&fChannel=6

They've had highlights on from 3pm.

[Sting]

They've had highlights on from 3pm.

Your best bet would be to phone them! Their web says nothing!

[killadoob]

SABC will show it, have they shown all the other games? I see no reason why sabc will not show SA playing in a world. Hard to believe.

Have sabc updated their guide in the last 4 years i wonder? :D

[LancelotSA]

The Sharks are playing the Stormers at 19:30 too so I'd be doing lots of channel surfing if it is on at that time too!

[Sting]

The Sharks are playing the Stormers at 19:30 too so I'd be doing lots of channel surfing if it is on at that time too!

The joys of PVR!! I have a feed through to my PC and can also stream the cricket or rugby via Supersport website on notebook using T3G. Would normally go to the main home TV, but my wife will kill me!!!!

[Khanya]

They're definately gon broadcast it (SABC), LIVE.

[synapseZA]

Another one down! PAK: 58/5
Brilliant fielding by NZ.

[Khanya]

Cricinfo.com

Table-toppers brace for showdown
England feel they might have a slight psychological edge, having secured a morale-boosting five-wicket victory over South Africa in last week's warm-up fixture on this same ground.

[JK8]

How can anyone support these Pakis only... You must be insane!
I had a feeling they would mess up chasing a run a ball...

[Khanya]

Paki's: Thinks they can still make it.

[lilggg]

Should be easy now if these 2 keep going.
And i would'nt trust any times SABC give.

[Sting]

Pakistan need 2 from the last ball... Could have a Super Over !!!

Caught of last ball - NZ win by 1 run!

[killadoob]

Eish what a cliff hanger, i wonder why they took that single?

[synapseZA]

Go NZ!!! What a final over. 132/7 chasing 133.

[Sting]

Eish what a cliff hanger, i wonder why they took that single?

That was stupid! Salman Butt was going so well!!

[killadoob]

I hope we bat first!!!!!!!!!!

Come on boys!!!!!!!!!!! let's show them english lads how t20 is played :D.

[lilggg]

We beat NZ,so that results is good right?

[LancelotSA]

SABC 3 just confirmed that the game will be shown straight after the news at 19:30

[killadoob]

SABC 3 just confirmed that the game will be shown straight after the news at 19:30

Yup then it is not delayed either.

Would have been very odd for them not to show a world cup game featuring SA.

[Sting]

John Smit won the toss and elected to bat!

[lilggg]

So thats it then,game over.

[synapseZA]

Both sides are unchanged from their last game. Hope we can break the chain of unsuccessful chases :)

[Sting]

Go Despatch !!!!

[lilggg]

GONE,botha!!

[lilggg]

Botha or VDM,hmmm tough choice.

[Sting]

All 14 players involved so far are SA born !!

[lilggg]

Now england on top.

[lilggg]

Morkel and his no balls again,he better make up for it with the bat ;p

[lilggg]

We getting raped again by england,cant we learn ;/

[lilggg]

OMG,dropped,what a sitter.

[cybershark]

He's now officially JP Dropuminy.

[Sting]

Need a wicket....

[Sting]

Well batted KP !!!

[LancelotSA]

Well batted KP !!!

It was good but this pom commentator is annoying the crap out of me with his repeated comments about how that was the most extraordinary thing he has ever seen! It was only 53 off 33, not 100 off 33!

[Sting]

It was good but this pom commentator is annoying the crap out of me with his repeated comments about how that was the most extraordinary thing he has ever seen! It was only 53 off 33, not 100 off 33!

Nasser or Bumble?

[Sting]

Good pull back by Proteas.

[Khanya]

De Villiers - What can we say!!! Superb!

[LancelotSA]

Nasser or Bumble?

...remember I am on SABC so probably some 5th division English player or a water boy!

[Khanya]

In the block-whole! Middle off stump! Good job Morkel... At once the total looked threatening...

[lilggg]

Has any1 chased a score like this yet in this WC?

[killadoob]

Should be a walk in park for us.

20-30 runs short of what they should have put up. Nope not that i can recall lilgg but the pitch looks awesome for batting. Should be no excuses if we lose. Good pitch and we should win this one :D.

It will us all help physiologically know we limited them to far less than they should have got.

[synapseZA]

Still a lot of runs to get, but at least we made a good comeback since KP was dismissed.

[synapseZA]

Should be a walk in park for us.

Shhhhhhhhhh :D

[lilggg]

As long as Kallis doesnt plod for his 50

[killadoob]

As long as Kallis doesnt plod for his 50

Well the only thing stopping us from nailing this target is of course kallis, let's hope he either goes early or gets a fast 50. You look at what pieterson did. Kallis is well capable if he applies himself.

I think i will cry if we are sitting at 60 after 10 with 1 down.

Who knows maybe kallis goes early and we crumble. Not sure all i know is a slow start will not be good :(.

[Khanya]

Kallis is gon take it in singles... As per usual... Check them balls being chawed. He'd do us a favour, if he'd get out for 10 (15 balls.)

[Abe]

It was good but this pom commentator is annoying the crap out of me with his repeated comments about how that was the most extraordinary thing he has ever seen! It was only 53 off 33, not 100 off 33!

I changed the channel because I couldn't bear to listen to that arse kissing. It was nothing spectacular. He had at least 3 balls fall into holes in the field and Boucher missed the catch. It was only 17th on the list of strike rates.

How on earth could Smith leave Kallis with an over?

[LancelotSA]

Kallis is gon take it in singles... As per usual... Check them balls being chawed. He'd do us a favour, if he'd get out for 10 (15 balls.)

At least your have put your c on a b. A lot of other people are hedging their bets when it comes to Kallis.

[Sting]

Kallis is gon take it in singles... As per usual... Check them balls being chawed. He'd do us a favour, if he'd get out for 10 (15 balls.)

Play much cricket in your day?

[killadoob]

Why morkel did a fine job, abe some bowlers cannot bowl at the death. Guess it is the same as some batsmen cannot open.

Kallis will more than likely pull a kallis but hopefully he saw kevin pieterson and thought to himself i also want to be like that when i grow up.

[Khanya]

Play much cricket in your day?

I'm doing grade 12, just play casually. Not something serious.

[Khanya]

2 overs. 7 runs!!?

[lilggg]

Great stuff,run rate is alreay up to 9.
There we go 6,why are we so scared to take chances,this is T20 ffs.

[LancelotSA]

It must be a "physiological" problem that Kallis has...

;)

[Khanya]

What's going on with Smith?

[killadoob]

Smith not looking in great touch as he has done all tournament. Lance shame dude haha :D. I bet that made your night hey.

[LancelotSA]

Damn, you guys are defeatist! Just sit back and enjoy.

[LancelotSA]

Smith not looking in great touch as he has done all tournament. Lance shame dude haha :D. I bet that made your night hey.

He might also have "physiological" problems.....

How about we watch his entire innings before making comments. My night is not made by 2 minutes of action, or no action as the case may be.

[Rosaudio]

Yeah we'll do it easily. If we don't lose too many wickets

edit: oh well..

[lilggg]

All that and we still lose a wicket.

[Khanya]

Thank God... Atleast he didn't chaw as much...

[killadoob]

These slow starts when chasing worry me lance, normally we do sit back watch the run rate climb out of control.

Ok in comes gibbs to hopefully start the run chase. LOL khanya let's hope all these kallis fans are not right and we win now. He cannot slow us down now!!!!!

[Sting]

Thank God... Atleast he didn't chaw as much...

Are you deliberately using the word "chaw" ?

[Khanya]

Yeah. As in, he didn't chaw/waste/use as many balls.. It's better than 20 (off 30.)
Smith looks out of sorts.

[lilggg]

Hes gone.As i said have ot bat first.

[Khanya]

Eish... Gibbs, my hope...

[AfricanTech]

damnit - there goes Gibbs - Smith is in slow motion....

[Sting]

Yeah. As in, he didn't chaw/waste/use as many balls.. It's better than 20 (off 30.)
Smith looks out of sorts.

Are you an american, from down south? In SA we use the word "chew".

[LancelotSA]

Some people better start hoping the man they dislike so much scores runs as no one else is....

Killa, it must have made your evening seeing Gibbs only scoring 8 off 8 balls....

[milomak]

Gibbs has been in nosedive in internationals for at least the last 3 years. all his domestic form shows is that there si a huge gulf between local and international cricket.

[Ronjay]

I guess we are going to be coming home early from this tournament rather then after the semi final per tradition.:cry:

[lilggg]

LOL,hes on about peterson again.Nothing ot be ashamed of,we getting beaten by South africans.

[AfricanTech]

these english commentators irritated me so much, I've now switched to radio commentary...

[lilggg]

I love watching teh run rate climb,10 an over now.

[milomak]

if these guys win this game i will be highly impressed. i think an enforcer coach is needed in there. jenkins. let players fal out with him. they either choose to be in the squad or in provincial cricket and lose their endorsements.

[Otumeel]

Gibbs has been in nosedive in internationals for at least the last 3 years. all his domestic form shows is that there si a huge gulf between local and international cricket.

Tru dat.

[killadoob]

It does not make my day watching SA struggle. Couldn't care who does what as long as they try.

Our biggest problem is the opening pair.

11 off 13
15 off 20

Why do we feel when chasing we should start slowly? Gibbs did not do much better either but eish man.

Smith gone and man does he look out of form, OMG he is lucky he is captain.

[LancelotSA]

these english commentators irritated me so much, I've now switched to radio commentary...

The one's on SABC? Yeah, they are pathetic. Everything the English team does and everyone in the team is the best thing they have ever seen.

[lilggg]

Now thats 1 fat vuvuzela,and doesnt make as much noise.

[milomak]

I guess we are going to be coming home early from this tournament rather then after the semi final per tradition.:cry:

you seem to forget 2 world cups (ODI) where we were eliminated in the group stages. one of them at home.

[AfricanTech]

3 balls - 3 lives - man oh man...

[milomak]

game over.

[Rosaudio]

FFS

[AfricanTech]

well, I'm glad Smith is gone - I like him, but he is not up to par at the moment....

[Khanya]

Just as the commentator said: "Should be a catching practice."
Smith was never there...

[dal2000]

Ive always been against the choke thing, but these guys are really starting to annoy me. They perfect the art of choking.

[lilggg]

Please explain to me what changes in the second innings that makes it impossible to strike the ball properly.If we had batted first we wud be scoring freely i bet you.Last hope is de villiers and morkel

[Abe]

Smith is not playing well. His changing of the bowling up front really back fired. He even failed to bowl Kallis out. He should have called everyone together after the first 2/3 overs and told them to focus. Now he put Kallis (who had a better strike rate) under so much pressure (he had at that point a strike rate of around 50%) he had to go for a shot that wasn't on. He had better sort himself out if we want to go further in the tournament.

And now, out.

[milomak]

ffs didn't notice they sent albie in. far too early. he should be in at about 13 overs.

[AfricanTech]

Time to go home......

[killadoob]

Abe i tried telling you guys smithers and kallis are actually doing that to each other every game, one or the other is slow.

OMG we are collapsing. Geez maybe you guys are right, kallis goes to early we collapse.

I still have hope though :D.

[milomak]

CHOKERS

[dal2000]

waaahahahha

[Khanya]

Another wicket!

[AfricanTech]

as we used to say "pens en potjies...."

[Abe]

Please explain to me what changes in the second innings that makes it impossible to strike the ball properly.If we had batted first we wud be scoring freely i bet you.Last hope is de villiers and morkel

We did not bowl our best bowlers through the power play, Eng did. Eng gave their bowlers time to settle, Smith didn't, he kept chopping and changing them just like we did against India. Do you know how difficult it is to start bowling on a good line and length straight up?

What the hell are they doing sending Albie in 8 overs into the game?

[killadoob]

Come on okes all is not lost, still have a few players capable of doing something.

Duminy maybe we see that old glorious duminy and together with ab mount a challenge.

[Khanya]

Duminy needs to manifest!

[AfricanTech]

test cricket tactics..."amble" FFS, the commentator just said "amble" - in 20/20 !!

[SlowInternet]

Same old story all over again.... when will we learn ? We are just playing bad !

[Abe]

While we didn't get India's score, we got 170+ chasing it with Kallis playing an anchor role at 120% strike rate. Smith was battling and should have been the one to chase the bowling, not Kallis. We should have batted sensibly till 12 overs and then launched big time.

[killadoob]

Now it is a run rate recovery process i guess. Funny tactics, bat slow and lose 4 wickets, go hell for leather lose 4 wickets, i see no difference. Go and smack it my bru!!! :D

We are done ab gone.

Do you think pieterson is right and we should have bowled 2 spinners?

[AfricanTech]

I hate it when we sommer start falling apart - we are a good team but we just don't seem to have grit against England especially....

oh ffs - there goes de villiers...

[Khanya]

Done and dusted!!!

[milomak]

wht mental strength does this team have?

[Rosaudio]

yup it's all over now

[dal2000]

I can't watch this crap anymore... how the hell do all of them lose confidence?

[SlowInternet]

OH NO ! England is all over SA ! Game set and match.

[AfricanTech]

ok, ok, ok, ok, ok - I am going to start being POSITIVE now - maybe the good vibrations will help - go Boucher - go JP

[killadoob]

Well normally when smith does well we do well, when he is out form i find generally we struggle and man is he out of form, he looks very awkward at the crease and after this performance i will concede i was wrong about kallis.

[AfricanTech]

go JP - SIX!!

[Sting]

ok, ok, ok, ok, ok - I am going to start being POSITIVE now - maybe the good vibrations will help - go Boucher - go JP

Still gonna win!!

[AfricanTech]

hey, the postive thinking is helping....

[SlowInternet]

Now it is a run rate recovery process i guess. Funny tactics, bat slow and lose 4 wickets, go hell for leather lose 4 wickets, i see no difference. Go and smack it my bru!!! :D

We are done ab gone.

Do you think pieterson is right and we should have bowled 2 spinners?

The spinners are doing real good in this tournament.

[AfricanTech]

Yeah Boucher - turn the 1s into 2s - that is how to win!

[Abe]

Same old story all over again.... when will we learn ? We are just playing bad !

Yes, and I think that Smith is not captaining well.

[killadoob]

Dude it is about run rate now, not chasing the total.

[Khanya]

India also did this yesterday.

[SlowInternet]

We will need a miracle to win

[lilggg]

Match fixed,has to be the only explanation,we can't possibly be this bad.

[killadoob]

Lilggg the past does not lie, when the pressure is on we crumble in big tournaments.

[Abe]

Whats important now is to not let our run rate slip too much.

[SlowInternet]

Match fixed,has to be the only explanation,we can't possibly be this bad.

No I just think the English have our number. We are playing very predictable cricket.

[Ronjay]

Switched off the TV. couldn't watch:cry:

I'm a big fan of cricket and love my country but damn someones head must role for this debacle.

How many tournaments have the boys played and how many trophies have they won?

My weekend street cricket okes can play better attacking cricket then this.

[lilggg]

We even had the advantage of playing england in the warm up match.Altoh i suppose thats an advantage for them too.

[milomak]

no, what's important now is that we beat pakistan convincingly

[Ronjay]

Match fixed,has to be the only explanation,we can't possibly be this bad.

Agree with you there. SA have some of the best hitters in the game but can't score off of a batting wicket. Very suspect.

[milomak]

Switched off the TV. couldn't watch:cry:

I'm a big fan of cricket and love my country but damn someones head must role for this debacle.

How many tournaments have the boys played and how many trophies have they won?

My weekend street cricket okes can play better attacking cricket then this.

the icc champions trophy is the only thing we've won iirc

[killadoob]

no, what's important now is that we beat pakistan convincingly

Ya but even if we do the RR will come into it, if NZ beat england we beat pakistan it comes down to RR.

The trouble is the first 6 overs, we never start well when chasing and put pressure and the rest of our batters. England lost an early wicket but still ended up with 61/1 after 6.

By the time kallis or smither goes the rest have a big job on their hands because our run rate is slow, leads to bad shots that is why i said open with gibbs let him smash it or go early rather than kallis and smith going slowly.

[lilggg]

Come duminy,time for u to do somethign special.

[SlowInternet]

Boucher gone

[lilggg]

Anoither wicket ;/

[killadoob]

O well another disappointing night of cricket haha, ok no more chasing!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we win the tournament :D

[Ronjay]

the icc champions trophy is the only thing we've won iirc

Yip, but come on, we are supposed to be considered a power house in cricket, unfortunately our trophy case stands virtually empty though. I can't see how, with the players that we have, we have no Fing major victories. Match fixing is a real possibility.

[lilggg]

We need to win the toss everytime now and hope smith bats first.We just cant handle the nerves.

[Sting]

Would have been different if Kallis was there to anchor the innings....

[milomak]

Ya but even if we do the RR will come into it, if NZ beat england we beat pakistan it comes down to RR.

The trouble is the first 6 overs, we never start well when chasing and put pressure and the rest of our batters. England lost an early wicket but still ended up with 61/1 after 6.

By the time kallis or smither goes the rest have a big job on their hands because our run rate is slow, leads to bad shots that is why i said open with gibbs let him smash it or go early rather than kallis and smith going slowly.

but that's my point. beating pakistan convincingly (ie good RR) puts us in a good position.

[CHURCHILL]

Lol.. Come on England, finish them off

[Abe]

Would have been different if Kallis was there to anchor the innings....

Yes, Duminy on one side striking the ball nicely and Kallis feeding him strike with the odd boundry. 160 would be quite easy.

[Khanya]

Ya but even if we do the RR will come into it, if NZ beat england we beat pakistan it comes down to RR.

The trouble is the first 6 overs, we never start well when chasing and put pressure and the rest of our batters. England lost an early wicket but still ended up with 61/1 after 6.

By the time kallis or smither goes the rest have a big job on their hands because our run rate is slow, leads to bad shots that is why i said open with gibbs let him smash it or go early rather than kallis and smith going slowly.

+1.

[Sting]

Lol.. Come on England, finish them off

Hey, careful now, I'll catch up with you in PE at the Germany game !!!!

[Abe]

lol - Kallis with the third best strike rate of the innings.

[killadoob]

Yes, Duminy on one side striking the ball nicely and Kallis feeding him strike with the odd boundry. 160 would be quite easy.

Wasn't so easy against pakistan LOL. If i recall they found it near impossible to hit boundaries.

We need to start better FFS. First 6 overs you get runs not plod!!!!!!! Smith as well, goodness me i don't think i have ever seen him look so poor, needs to find that form and fast.

[lilggg]

Finally they trying sumhing different and once again its too late.

[AfricanTech]

man, i'm glad I switched to radio - can just imagine how sickening those commentators must be now - at least JP is making a few runs...

[AfricanTech]

and it doesn't help that Steyn was bowling KP "peanut butter and jam"

[killadoob]

View dismissal GC Smith* c Lumb b Swann 19 24 2 0 79.16
7.4 83.5 kph, gone! And Smith was always on the back foot in that little duel. A lofted slog-sweep, and that's catching practice on the midwicket boundary 44/3
View dismissal JH Kallis c Pietersen b Broad 11 13 0 1 84.61

How on earth can you win games with an opening pair batting so slow :(.

Sadly we have no one with the class of pieterson, he walks out and just whacks it. No worries to him. Either he goes early or he klaps you.

[AfricanTech]

View dismissal GC Smith* c Lumb b Swann 19 24 2 0 79.16
7.4 83.5 kph, gone! And Smith was always on the back foot in that little duel. A lofted slog-sweep, and that's catching practice on the midwicket boundary 44/3
View dismissal JH Kallis c Pietersen b Broad 11 13 0 1 84.61

How on earth can you win games with an opening pair batting so slow :(.

Sadly we have no one with the class of pieterson, he walks out and just whacks it. No worries to him. Either he goes early or he klaps you.

The name is Gibbs - he can also come out and klap you or go early - why we continue to not put him up front I don't know....

[Abe]

We need to start better FFS. First 6 overs you get runs not plod!!!!!!! Smith as well, goodness me i don't think i have ever seen him look so poor, needs to find that form and fast.

England bowled well in the first 6 overs, we bowled badly. Kallis wasn't bad in the first 6 (almost a run a ball), Smith was shocking (50% strike rate).

[Khanya]

*Sigh*

[milomak]

We need to win the toss everytime now and hope smith bats first.

the big problem is smth's batting


is corrie contracted till next year's world cup?

[AfricanTech]

* Sigh * - a familiar tale...

[lilggg]

*Face Palm*

[Abe]

We will do well to get 130 now.

[AfricanTech]

let's face it - the poms out thought us - much better strategy

oh! consolation six from JB

[Khanya]

Ok. Last 4 need to go for it.

[killadoob]

No kallis was shocking, not saying what happened is his fault this time round but a man of his class should be able to bat like pieterson early on. He hit one six, so remove the six and he hit 5 off 12, just not good enough abe for a man of his ability.

I am finding it hard to understand when we chase why we feel the need to start so slowly and not go ballistic in the first 6. Again we are blaming the bowlers i see. Has nothing to do us sitting at 50 for 5 now the bowlers are the problem. Maybe that last chase of 186 yes bowlers did not help us win it. Those first 6 overs are the key to a successful run chase. We got few runs and lost many wickets. Game over

For some reason we prefer leaving so much to do rather than attempt to stay on top of the run rate from the first

[sox63]

:sick:

[Khanya]

47 from 18. 10, 17, 20!

[AfricanTech]

No kallis was shocking, not saying what happened is his fault this time round but a man of his class should be able to bat like pieterson early on. He hit one six, so remove the six and he hit 5 off 12, just not good enough abe for a man of his ability.

I am finding it hard to understand when we chase why we feel the need to start so slowly and not go ballistic in the first 6. Again we are blaming the bowlers i see. Has nothing to do us sitting at 50 for 5 now the bowlers are the problem. Maybe that last chase of 186 yes bowlers did not help us win it. Those first 6 overs are the key to a successful run chase. We got few runs and lost many wickets. Game over

For some reason we prefer leaving so much to do rather than attempt to stay on top of the run rate from the first

Yep - you're right to some degree - the first six over are key - but we bowled so badly in the first six that their batsmen just whacked us...

[AfricanTech]

swatting flies....stand still dammit!

[lilggg]

And our net run rate is going ot be screwed after this.

[AfricanTech]

bah!

[Khanya]

Good night South Africa.

[lilggg]

Pakistan are smiling,pretty sure they are confident of beating us after seeing this.

[AfricanTech]

the one good thing about 20/20 is the pain is over quickly - like getting cuts all those years ago - at least when you got caned it was "whack, whack, whack"

[killadoob]

I think we just batted poorly. The english made our bowling good by backing into the crease or stepping out. They did not stand and deliver like we did. They also have the magical pieterson. We do not have that caliber upfront. We have no one that can hit 53 off 33 upfront. We seems to think you ride out the first 6 then try win it from there and that is wrong. You win or lose in those first 6 overs, if you can get 50 or 60 you can pace your innings well even if you lose 3 wickets.

We got the one run a ball kallis and the out of form smith to start us off. Then should one go early we got gibbs who is playing on past performances. Bring bosman back possibly. He cannot be worse than gibbs. I dunno something needs to change right at the top.

[Otumeel]

This is what should be done, like now:


The World Cup should be given to the Aussies (because those bastards are the best).
South Africa should come home (because we suck ass).
The rest of the cricketing world should compete for second place.

[lilggg]

Another good thing is we only have to wait 1 day to see it happen again,and yes it will happen again if we bat second.

[AfricanTech]

creeping towards 130...

[lilggg]

And what pisses me off is that they always talkking but South africa having so much talent,but all the youngsters dont get a chance to play.They choose the same chokers as last time.

[killadoob]

Chasing has never been our strong point. No worries we won't bat second again and win the comp!!!!!!! :D

[AfricanTech]

oh ffs - we didn't even make 130!

[AfricanTech]

And what pisses me off is that they always talkking but South africa having so much talent,but all the youngsters dont get a chance to play.

Yes - what is with that - It's hard to believe that all these old toppies are still playing

[lilggg]

And i hav no alcohol left,what a ****ty day.

[AfricanTech]

so now we have two teams that have a mental hold over us

[AfricanTech]

And i hav no alcohol left,what a ****ty day.

Yah! and the Stormers lost - and tomorrow the weather is going to be really bad in the WC - at least the sharks won for Durban okes!

[Khanya]

Gibbs, Smith, Kallis, de Villiers, Duminy, A. Morkel. That's the batting order.
Or even drop Kallis and insert Bosman at no. 3. Be innovative! We've got nothing to loose, we're still gon choke anyways.

[lilggg]

Our NRR is now worse than every1 else.

[dal2000]

So South Africa Barbarians beat South Africa. :cry:

[milomak]

No kallis was shocking, not saying what happened is his fault this time round but a man of his class should be able to bat like pieterson early on. He hit one six, so remove the six and he hit 5 off 12, just not good enough abe for a man of his ability.

I am finding it hard to understand when we chase why we feel the need to start so slowly and not go ballistic in the first 6. Again we are blaming the bowlers i see. Has nothing to do us sitting at 50 for 5 now the bowlers are the problem. Maybe that last chase of 186 yes bowlers did not help us win it. Those first 6 overs are the key to a successful run chase. We got few runs and lost many wickets. Game over

For some reason we prefer leaving so much to do rather than attempt to stay on top of the run rate from the first

i am going to go against the grain and defend kallis.

this is clearly a south africa problem. under a number of different coaches the approach has been the same.

my thinking now is that we employ nice guy coaches who go with the players thoughts rather than impose their thoughts. otherwise are all south african coaches conservative.

Kallis has one of the better SRs in the whole team today. blaming him is to look for a scapegoat when there si a far greater problem.

[AfricanTech]

Good Night all.

[lilggg]

I was supporting stormers anyway,lol,want 2 SA teams with home semi's.

[killadoob]

I dunno i don't think it matter who plays when we chase. Either the openers will let the run rate implode or we will be all out for under 140.

No more chasing!!!!!!!!

[JK8]

Lol lol lol Pakis still in it YAY!!!!!!

[lilggg]

At least our last game will be more exciting...or will it.

[killadoob]

Milo i am not blaming kallis, i am just saying between him and smithers they are not getting the job done. Top order is a mess when chasing, either go out without much contribution or they bat until the Rr is over 14.

Just no way to win. If kallis stays in long we lose, if he goes early we lose. So ya i dunno anymore. Let's hope those paki's are off form or we go out.

[SlowInternet]

And what pisses me off is that they always talkking but South africa having so much talent,but all the youngsters dont get a chance to play.They choose the same chokers as last time.

Have to agree with you on this point. This is one of the problems we have in SA. You just have to be buddies with the captain or coach and you'll be in the side until doomsday comes. :mad:

[killadoob]

What is really bad is when you see pieterson saying SA have missed a trick by not putting in a second spin bowler. Are we needing tips now to see the obvious?

Maybe pieterson should hold a batting camp for our openers :D. We really need to know how to smash a ball with such class and aggression

[lilggg]

SCB must buy him a house and tell him come live here.

[Ronjay]

Um, we are going to get our asses handed to us by Pakistan. They have how many spinners? We suck against the slow stuff. As lilggg says give some fresh players a go. Couldn't be worse. Some of our youngsters are really itching to show what they can do. Fusk I could really cry right now. Just hope the boys can do better against Paki but somehow I think this tournament is over for us.
:sick::mad::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Sting]

Tomorrow's games:

Sun 9 May - Barbados - India v West Indies (15h30)
Sun 9 May - Barbados - Sri Lanka v Australia (19h30)

[lilggg]

Yeah,leave the ODI's and Tests for the old ballies,where u need the experienced players ot build an innings,T20 1 good innings can win the match,so let the youngsters who can hit the boundaries play.

[Abe]

Or even drop Kallis and insert Bosman at no. 3. Be innovative! We've got nothing to loose, we're still gon choke anyways.

Good move, drop our most consistent batsmen and most economical bowler behind Botha. If you want to drop someone. drop Smith. He is batting poorly and his captaincy needs a lot to be desired. Sending in Morkel at 8 overs was dumb, bowling changes useless. When the team are making mistakes, he should be getting them together to hype them up. Kallis gives you solidity at the top so that they other opener can tee off. The same way that Kieswetter did while Pieterson launched. Kallis tried to tee off today because Smith was f..king around. Had he stayed, we may have still lost the game but we most certainly would not have gotten less then 130 and ended up in a situation where even a win against Pakistan may not save us and a loss to Pakistan is certainly a ticket home.

By all means keep blaming Kallis for the losses and blind your eyes to all of the other mistakes. Boucher missing a regulation catch, Duminy dropping a sitter, Morkels no ball problem, Smiths poor captaincy, Smith, Gibbs and Bosman's lack of batting form. AB is sitting with pretty much the same strike rate and a lower average yet you guys conveniently seek out your skape goat.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Pommies look dangerous, have to play at 100% to win this one

/facepalm

[lilggg]

Lol,facepalm indeed