lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:35 PM
I really doubt steyn and langeveldt wud do worse than our openers.
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Abe
10-05-2010, 05:36 PM
Go Pakis!!!
Please Pakis take em out :P
I am sure we can organise permanent residence there for you. PM me and I will make a plan.
Please Pakis take em out :P
I am sure we can organise permanent residence there for you. PM me and I will make a plan.
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 05:36 PM
It's hard to be the hero when you're out of form. AB and JK need to build a solid platform here, and I don't care what anyone says about slogging it every ball.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:36 PM
Even if we win this our net run rate is still going to be the worst,so england hav to win at all costs,assuming we even get near this total.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 05:37 PM
Nope they would do better, amazing they keep playing gibbs. Smith i have said from the start looks useless and only has his place due to his captaincy which is rather lacking.
Kallis will bat through and we will win but won't be a big enough win to take us through. We need to start fast instead we start as usual and still lose 2 wickets doing it.
Kallis will bat through and we will win but won't be a big enough win to take us through. We need to start fast instead we start as usual and still lose 2 wickets doing it.
Slab
10-05-2010, 05:38 PM
Smith gone - lets send in Albie (I am being sarcastic just in case anyone thinks I am being serious)
Or even Steyn.
Or even Steyn.
Abe
10-05-2010, 05:38 PM
Even if we win this our net run rate is still going to be the worst,so england hav to win at all costs,assuming we even get near this total.
Thats the point, we need to win the game first and concentrate on run-rate second. Lose it and we are out, guaranteed.
Thats the point, we need to win the game first and concentrate on run-rate second. Lose it and we are out, guaranteed.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:38 PM
This is so depressing,we dont look anywhere near capable enough.
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 05:39 PM
Kallis will bat through and we will win but won't be a big enough win to take us through. We need to start fast instead we start as usual and still lose 2 wickets doing it.
I'd rather have us win and hope that England wins, than lose and know that we're out.
They should play for NRR only when it's safe to do so.
I'd rather have us win and hope that England wins, than lose and know that we're out.
They should play for NRR only when it's safe to do so.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:39 PM
Thats the point, we need to win the game first and concentrate on run-rate second. Lose it and we are out, guaranteed.
Well we definately arent worrying about NRR at this point. ;p
Well we definately arent worrying about NRR at this point. ;p
Abe
10-05-2010, 05:42 PM
Nope they would do better, amazing they keep playing gibbs. Smith i have said from the start looks useless and only has his place due to his captaincy which is rather lacking.
What I can't understand is this, they opened with Gibbs and Smith so both would have a go. Neither did. In Gibbs' case, he had a license to hit, no one would have complained had he gone out for 4 off 2 balls but he wasted a whole over of balls getting his 3 runs. Thats criminal. They are going to put pressure on Kallis to keep a rate of 140 now and thats not his cup of tea. 120 is a cake walk but 140 is pushing it. If he goes out because of it we are in serious danger of losing the game.
What I can't understand is this, they opened with Gibbs and Smith so both would have a go. Neither did. In Gibbs' case, he had a license to hit, no one would have complained had he gone out for 4 off 2 balls but he wasted a whole over of balls getting his 3 runs. Thats criminal. They are going to put pressure on Kallis to keep a rate of 140 now and thats not his cup of tea. 120 is a cake walk but 140 is pushing it. If he goes out because of it we are in serious danger of losing the game.
Mier
10-05-2010, 05:43 PM
Smith should really take some time and ask himself whether he still deserves to be captain. I think Smith should resign or be fired. What a chop.
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 05:44 PM
Lets just face it, Proteas are just as bad as Bafana Bafana, only difference is, that there isn't as many countries playing cricket... If there was 100 of countries playing cricket (Like football) we would probably also be ranked 90th...
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 05:45 PM
Smith should really take some time and ask himself whether he still deserves to be captain. I think Smith should resign or be fired. What a chop.
Unfortunately I don't see anyone else in the team who can captain. Boucher, maybe, but he wont be around much longer.
Unfortunately I don't see anyone else in the team who can captain. Boucher, maybe, but he wont be around much longer.
sand_man
10-05-2010, 05:45 PM
Frigging part time spinners bogging us down!!! DAMN IT!!!!
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:47 PM
Its all good building a platform,but what happens when they decide to tee off and they go out.That platform was then pretty useless.
Look at Aus,when they were 60/6 did they plod singles to try build a platform?
Look at Aus,when they were 60/6 did they plod singles to try build a platform?
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:48 PM
Required RR 9.00
killadoob
10-05-2010, 05:48 PM
What I can't understand is this, they opened with Gibbs and Smith so both would have a go. Neither did. In Gibbs' case, he had a license to hit, no one would have complained had he gone out for 4 off 2 balls but he wasted a whole over of balls getting his 3 runs. Thats criminal. They are going to put pressure on Kallis to keep a rate of 140 now and thats not his cup of tea. 120 is a cake walk but 140 is pushing it. If he goes out because of it we are in serious danger of losing the game.
Abe none of our openers ever have a go!!!!!!!!!! I am so amazed that they are happy to go out for 3 off 9 as opposed to go and smashing it.
Once again we are sitting back watching the run rate climb and doing nothing about it. Got plenty wickets to come once again by the time they do 11 maybe 12 per over required :(.
OMG here goes kallis, block block block
plod plod plod
Hit the F5CKING ball for a six!!!!!!!!!!! AB doing the exact same thing.
Abe none of our openers ever have a go!!!!!!!!!! I am so amazed that they are happy to go out for 3 off 9 as opposed to go and smashing it.
Once again we are sitting back watching the run rate climb and doing nothing about it. Got plenty wickets to come once again by the time they do 11 maybe 12 per over required :(.
OMG here goes kallis, block block block
plod plod plod
Hit the F5CKING ball for a six!!!!!!!!!!! AB doing the exact same thing.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:50 PM
OK KALLIS,u hav 20 runs now,u must be in now,time for a few boundaries.
JK8
10-05-2010, 05:50 PM
Lol Proteas playing like crap even the commentators are asking WTF!!!
I like it :D
I like it :D
Slab
10-05-2010, 05:51 PM
9 overs, Pakistan 46/3.
South Africa 46/2.
De Villiers almost gone there.
South Africa 46/2.
De Villiers almost gone there.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:52 PM
I am laughing my ass off now.Its so amazing how we do the exact same thing every damn time,nearly 10 an over.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 05:53 PM
Who cares what pakistan had at the same time, we are not chasing their 9 over total, we are chasing the 20 over farking total.
This is the semi final all over again, kallis doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!! When does he say ok maybe i should go big? When does kallis do more than singles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AB is doing nothing so kallis schemes ok i will do the same, HIT THE BALL. Not difficult :(. Why is AB not smashing the ball!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
This is the semi final all over again, kallis doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!! When does he say ok maybe i should go big? When does kallis do more than singles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AB is doing nothing so kallis schemes ok i will do the same, HIT THE BALL. Not difficult :(. Why is AB not smashing the ball!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ronjay
10-05-2010, 05:54 PM
We be Fusked.
Mier
10-05-2010, 05:54 PM
Unfortunately I don't see anyone else in the team who can captain. Boucher, maybe, but he wont be around much longer.
We haven't won anything in years, we may as well fire the lot and build a new team from scratch. I really want to support the Proteas, but they keep disappointing me, it's killing me slowly.
Sorry for the rant, hopefully the boys can get it together and win this thing, it's not over yet. It's just frustrating knowing your team has all the talent, but none of the confidence.
We haven't won anything in years, we may as well fire the lot and build a new team from scratch. I really want to support the Proteas, but they keep disappointing me, it's killing me slowly.
Sorry for the rant, hopefully the boys can get it together and win this thing, it's not over yet. It's just frustrating knowing your team has all the talent, but none of the confidence.
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 05:56 PM
Go Proteas, awesome, you rock... Lets just hit them some catchers and go home...
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:56 PM
As i said,nice building a platform,then they go out and we are in even more fukn trouble now.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 05:57 PM
Thank GOD now maybe we will be all out for 100 or someone will come in AND SMASH THE BALL.
manesan
10-05-2010, 05:57 PM
Thank you Kallis for sacrificing your wicket.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 05:57 PM
Match fixing..we cannot possibly be so stupid and useless.
manesan
10-05-2010, 06:00 PM
Match fixing..we cannot possibly be so stupid and useless.
Not useless, just stupid.
Not useless, just stupid.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:02 PM
We cant hit boundaries,thats pretty useless.
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:04 PM
lol, mense ons is k@k... ek is jammer maar iemand moet dit sê...
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:04 PM
I have nothing to say...
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:04 PM
That's it with Duminy, I've had enough, go back to the Cobras, maybe you'll be deadly again.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:05 PM
David Miller,he can hit boundaries,where is he ??
Vercogen
10-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Hit the ****ing ball you stupid ****ing ****s
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:07 PM
This has got to be match fixing. We need 11 an over and nobody is swinging the bat. Almost as though they are resigned to losing.
Mier
10-05-2010, 06:07 PM
I can't watch anymore. My two-year old are learning words she shouldn't know.
sox63
10-05-2010, 06:07 PM
Watching the Proteas at major tournaments is not for the faint hearted...
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Nice guys,keep them singles coming,run rate almost 12.
sox63
10-05-2010, 06:09 PM
Lol at those saying its match fixing!
The spirit of Hansie lives on...
The spirit of Hansie lives on...
Vercogen
10-05-2010, 06:09 PM
seriously wtf serriously
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:09 PM
Spot the difference,paki spinners going at about 5 an over,VDM 16 an over.
Wooh,go AB,now we talking.
Wooh,go AB,now we talking.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Don't go for sixes,do exactly what de villiers did.Keep the ball on the ground find the gaps and u wont get caught.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Well done, first boundary for 9 overs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes we are playing a t20 game according to the comp, nobody told SA.
Yes we are playing a t20 game according to the comp, nobody told SA.
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Hmmm... De Villiers might surprise us...
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:12 PM
AB coming to the party...
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:13 PM
W00t w00t there is hope :D.
Let's hope the leaving it for the last 5 works for once.
Let's hope the leaving it for the last 5 works for once.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:14 PM
1 more over like that and we have hope.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:14 PM
Noooo stupid Pakis!
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Idiot...
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Oh no...
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Game over,wtf did he do that.
manesan
10-05-2010, 06:16 PM
OMG, that shot cost us any chance we had.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:16 PM
Wow talk about idiotic, i cannot believe i just watched that.
Morkel lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is the lance of our team now.
Morkel lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is the lance of our team now.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:16 PM
No to get this Morkel out........
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:16 PM
That's a slow bolwer / spinner AB not a paceman!
Mier
10-05-2010, 06:18 PM
/me creeps into a corner and asumes the fetal position
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:20 PM
40 off 18... Morkel has done it...
sox63
10-05-2010, 06:20 PM
Watching the Proteas at major tournaments is not for the faint hearted...
Vercogen
10-05-2010, 06:21 PM
1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,
manesan
10-05-2010, 06:22 PM
Cool, theyre back to hitting the ball on the ground :rolleyes:
Mier
10-05-2010, 06:23 PM
1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 wicket,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 run,1 wicket,1 run,
There fixed
There fixed
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:23 PM
We can't chase 7 an over,how sad.
Vercogen
10-05-2010, 06:24 PM
rather go big and miss the bloody ball than this 1 run k@k
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Swearing won't bring you back to the field Bouch!
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Come on Pakis!!!
Nearly there!!!
Nearly there!!!
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:26 PM
Where have u been botha.
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:27 PM
31 of 2. Nicely set for Morkel
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:28 PM
Lets see what Botha and Morkel can do...
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:28 PM
Just look at Botha 2 fours 3 balls.
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:31 PM
Looks like Botha will have to safe us, Morkel's eye isn't in tonight...
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:31 PM
GO BOTHA,why didnt they put him in b4 boucher and duminy.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Another one,beauty.
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:32 PM
17 from 6... Morkel on strike...
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:32 PM
3 sixes gentlemen!
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:34 PM
WTF Is Morkel doing... Is the whole Proteas team retarded?
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:35 PM
OMFG Seriously, I call match fixing...
Vercogen
10-05-2010, 06:35 PM
WTF Is Morkel doing... Is the whole Proteas team retarded?
yes
yes
manesan
10-05-2010, 06:35 PM
game over
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:36 PM
AHh f off,once again they let the rate get too much.
cybershark
10-05-2010, 06:36 PM
Our T20 team selections and tactics really need to be looked at. More players that have done well at T20 provincial level need to be looked at and fewer Proteas given automatic selection to the team. All the other major teams in this tournament can hit the boundaries required, somehow our guys can't, we look like amateurs. :(
The best our team has played in limited overs in the last 2 years was when Johan Botha was captain. Smith constantly in and out due to injuries really imho is messing with the team balance.
The best our team has played in limited overs in the last 2 years was when Johan Botha was captain. Smith constantly in and out due to injuries really imho is messing with the team balance.
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:36 PM
It's over. Yes it is...
SlyFly
10-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Wow... I think someone should explain to the Proteas how cricket works... I don't think they get the concept that we have to reach the other teams score to win... Thats probably why we can only win when we bat first...
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:38 PM
AHh f off,once again they let the rate get too much.
We been saying all along we are wasting those first 6 overs, happened again. Kallis smith useless as usual, gibbs not sure why they bother, duminy should never have been in the team.
This is for me is the most useless SA team i have ever seen. I would investigate match fixing though.
Yes sly i keep hearing people compare our score to the other teams and i always wonder WTF for? You are chasing a RR not per over score.
We been saying all along we are wasting those first 6 overs, happened again. Kallis smith useless as usual, gibbs not sure why they bother, duminy should never have been in the team.
This is for me is the most useless SA team i have ever seen. I would investigate match fixing though.
Yes sly i keep hearing people compare our score to the other teams and i always wonder WTF for? You are chasing a RR not per over score.
superskully
10-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Wow... I think someone should explain to the Proteas how cricket works... I don't think they get the concept that we have to reach the other teams score to win... Thats probably why we can only win when we bat first...
Actually i think they thought they were cruising. Then after 20 overs they realized it's not a 50 over game.
Actually i think they thought they were cruising. Then after 20 overs they realized it's not a 50 over game.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Yippeeeee
Told you so! Hahahahaha!
Told you so! Hahahahaha!
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
We knew it was over when paki won the toss,so its not surprising.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Where's the Kallis fanclub???
Losers!!
Losers!!
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Yay, I don't have to shout for England now! :)
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
De Villiers is an exception though.
manesan
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
They did not look like winning from the first over. The Pakis did nothing special to Win(aside from blasting VDM which was they key).
Mier
10-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Smith, you're fired, fatty !!
superskully
10-05-2010, 06:40 PM
We knew it was over when paki won the toss,so its not surprising.
Actually it was when Smith brought RVM on.
Actually it was when Smith brought RVM on.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:41 PM
They did not look like winning from the first over. The Pakis did nothing special to Win(aside from blasting VDM which was they key).
They blasted him no doubt but he should never have been selected nor should smith have bowled him in that second over, wasn't 15 off the first a good enough warning?
Absolutely useless bunch of .....
Sorry but our bowlers did a good enough job, simple and the same thing that happens every time we chase, we get behind and plod singles when we need big runs.
They blasted him no doubt but he should never have been selected nor should smith have bowled him in that second over, wasn't 15 off the first a good enough warning?
Absolutely useless bunch of .....
Sorry but our bowlers did a good enough job, simple and the same thing that happens every time we chase, we get behind and plod singles when we need big runs.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:42 PM
Joy and sorrow collide. Pakistan players get into a celebratory huddle even as South African players look pretty downcast in the dressing room.
Inside they are happy from the money they getting from the match fixing.
Inside they are happy from the money they getting from the match fixing.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:42 PM
Come on England!!!!!!!!
Do eeet Do eeet!!!
Do eeet Do eeet!!!
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:43 PM
England will lose tonight, no pieterson.
Has to be match fixing, there is just no way a team can do this in so many games. I find it hard to believe. Kallis is the ring leader followed by smith and gibbs. Getting big bucks to throw matches.
Has to be match fixing, there is just no way a team can do this in so many games. I find it hard to believe. Kallis is the ring leader followed by smith and gibbs. Getting big bucks to throw matches.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:43 PM
If we were chasing 120 we still wouldnt have got it.We somehow find a way to stuff up any chase.
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:44 PM
Can someone show us the NRR.
sand_man
10-05-2010, 06:44 PM
Where's the Kallis fanclub???
Losers!!hahaha, You pathetic!!! You want to blame this loss on Kallis as well??!!! Are you totally incapable of peripheral thinking?
Losers!!hahaha, You pathetic!!! You want to blame this loss on Kallis as well??!!! Are you totally incapable of peripheral thinking?
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 06:45 PM
Yippeeeee
Told you so! Hahahahaha!
As a matter of interest, is this your first comment in here since the game started? I didn't see you throughout the match.
Did you see the KFC advert about you on SABC? The switcher!!!
Go New Zealand!!!
Told you so! Hahahahaha!
As a matter of interest, is this your first comment in here since the game started? I didn't see you throughout the match.
Did you see the KFC advert about you on SABC? The switcher!!!
Go New Zealand!!!
Ronjay
10-05-2010, 06:46 PM
The Proteas fully deserve there title of Chokers. If the shoe fits wear it. I'm sorry but the only team in SA that deserve to wear the colors of our country is the Springboks. The team have failed there country once again and if I was a player I'd be to ashamed to come home. Why have the coaching staff not done anything to improve the batting off the spinners? It's not like this is the first they know of this problem.
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 06:47 PM
England will lose tonight, no pieterson.
Has to be match fixing, there is just no way a team can do this in so many games. I find it hard to believe. Kallis is the ring leader followed by smith and gibbs. Getting big bucks to throw matches.
The thought crossed my mind... a prime example is Morkel nudging the first ball of the final over for a single when we need 17 and he is our big hitter.
Has to be match fixing, there is just no way a team can do this in so many games. I find it hard to believe. Kallis is the ring leader followed by smith and gibbs. Getting big bucks to throw matches.
The thought crossed my mind... a prime example is Morkel nudging the first ball of the final over for a single when we need 17 and he is our big hitter.
JK8
10-05-2010, 06:47 PM
Oh shurup you lil quoters follow the entire thread before quoting me with smartass comments. Thanks.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:48 PM
hahaha, You pathetic!!! You want to blame this loss on Kallis as well??!!! Are you totally incapable of peripheral thinking?
Not the easy walk in the park you predicted sadly. No we cannot blame kallis, everyone was as useless as he was, only botha was decent, maybe open with botha and steyn and drop kallis and smith to the tail. Then at least they may not get a chance to bat.
Not the easy walk in the park you predicted sadly. No we cannot blame kallis, everyone was as useless as he was, only botha was decent, maybe open with botha and steyn and drop kallis and smith to the tail. Then at least they may not get a chance to bat.
milomak
10-05-2010, 06:48 PM
must be tough for alviro to say anything
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:49 PM
The thought crossed my mind... a prime example is Morkel nudging the first ball of the final over for a single when we need 17 and he is our big hitter.
Not just morkel lance, look at all the players who came, kallis 22 off 21 which is normal for him but nobody showed any urgency. It is very suspect, i feel lilggg has a very good point. We never hit a boundary for 9 overs, i am sure that has to be illegal in t20. Should get a fine for sure.
It just seems odd to me in 2 games we do exactly the same thing, there must be something dodgy going on. Look at gibbs smiling, did you see smith he did not look torn up to me when he could see the game was gone.
Not just morkel lance, look at all the players who came, kallis 22 off 21 which is normal for him but nobody showed any urgency. It is very suspect, i feel lilggg has a very good point. We never hit a boundary for 9 overs, i am sure that has to be illegal in t20. Should get a fine for sure.
It just seems odd to me in 2 games we do exactly the same thing, there must be something dodgy going on. Look at gibbs smiling, did you see smith he did not look torn up to me when he could see the game was gone.
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:51 PM
The thought crossed my mind... a prime example is Morkel nudging the first ball of the final over for a single when we need 17 and he is our big hitter.
I was astonished, as he didn't even attempt a big hit.
I was astonished, as he didn't even attempt a big hit.
milomak
10-05-2010, 06:53 PM
can't argue with anything cullinan is saying
Slab
10-05-2010, 06:53 PM
Not just morkel lance, look at all the players who came, kallis 22 off 21 which is normal for him but nobody showed any urgency. It is very suspect, i feel lilggg has a very good point. We never hit a boundary for 9 overs, i am sure that has to be illegal in t20. Should get a fine for sure.
Lol. +1.
Lol. +1.
milomak
10-05-2010, 06:54 PM
killa - you could see smith was torn up in the post match interview
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 06:55 PM
htf could anyone ever compare albie to the great Zulu???
fsckin useless chop nudging a single what the **** was that!!?
fsckin useless chop nudging a single what the **** was that!!?
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:55 PM
Of course they werent torn up.They making a fortune with this loss ;p
Money > cricket for them.
Money > cricket for them.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:57 PM
Actually there is no possible way we werent tryng to lose this game.All the wierd decisions,letting teh rate get impossible,surely u woudl realise its getting a bit much.And the stupid selections,why put the young players in the pre squad and not select any of them.Giving them false hope when they probably werent planning on selecting them anyway.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 06:58 PM
Albie cannot play spin, simple as that. The great zulu was just as useless against spin. The paki's knew that and what did they do? Bowled spin.
You know smith can be torn up but he is still a F%cking useless piece of shyte captain and player along with most of the team. I have no idea who does what in the team but man it is just retarded watching a RR of 7.75 go to 11 with no boundary in 9 overs with wickets in hand.
You know smith can be torn up but he is still a F%cking useless piece of shyte captain and player along with most of the team. I have no idea who does what in the team but man it is just retarded watching a RR of 7.75 go to 11 with no boundary in 9 overs with wickets in hand.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 06:59 PM
If we had selected any 11 different players,i bet we woud've won.I have never seen us so bad,and when this tournie ends we will probably look much better.Very dodgy.
Otumeel
10-05-2010, 06:59 PM
Pommie said it perfectly during the middle of our innings. We were backing up ourselves into a corner ... and he turned out to be perfectly accurate.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:00 PM
Albie cannot play spin, simple as that. The great zulu was just as useless against spin. The paki's knew that and what did they do? Bowled spin.
You know smith can be torn up but he is still a F%cking useless piece of shyte captain and player along with most of the team. I have no idea who does what in the team but man it is just retarded watching a RR of 7.75 go to 11 with no boundary in 9 overs with wickets in hand.
fair enough but if Zulu was there he would have taken the second last over, iirc he once said "win the game in the second last over"
my dad even said if Klusener was batting he wouldn't have taken the single
You know smith can be torn up but he is still a F%cking useless piece of shyte captain and player along with most of the team. I have no idea who does what in the team but man it is just retarded watching a RR of 7.75 go to 11 with no boundary in 9 overs with wickets in hand.
fair enough but if Zulu was there he would have taken the second last over, iirc he once said "win the game in the second last over"
my dad even said if Klusener was batting he wouldn't have taken the single
manesan
10-05-2010, 07:05 PM
Smith needs to step down after the Windies tour. Mickey Arthur was replaced after a string of poor results. In fact many coaches have been replaced due to the senior players (you know who they are) putting pressure and threatening CSA. Its time for CSA to make some serious decisions and changes to the side.
milomak
10-05-2010, 07:06 PM
we always look to win games the same way. and there is one common denominator in all the times we've followed the same tactic - that is smith. unless CSA are purposefully looking for conservative coaches.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:08 PM
where's Lance? i think he's at his local Spar, kleenex share prices just took off :p
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 07:08 PM
Oh shurup you lil quoters follow the entire thread before quoting me with smartass comments. Thanks.
OK, we'll get back to you in 3 1/2 hours, Switcher! Just need to read 1356 posts quickly... ;)
OK, we'll get back to you in 3 1/2 hours, Switcher! Just need to read 1356 posts quickly... ;)
manesan
10-05-2010, 07:08 PM
we always look to win games the same way. and there is one common denominator in all the times we've followed the same tactic - that is smith. unless CSA are purposefully looking for conservative coaches.
Look at my previous post, its not CSA or the coach(es) .
Look at my previous post, its not CSA or the coach(es) .
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 07:09 PM
where's Lance? i think he's at his local Spar, kleenex share prices just took off :p
I'm here posting in the T20 thread rather than starting my own threads on the same topic.
I'm here posting in the T20 thread rather than starting my own threads on the same topic.
Ronjay
10-05-2010, 07:09 PM
Dear Mr Smith
How many times must South African fans be subjected to such bitter disappointment? How many times must we, the supporters of our country, have such high hopes only to have them dashed to the ground? I have supported this team since I was a young boy as most cricket lovers do in SA and remember the great games and special moments through the years as if they where yesterday. I remember the greatness of Dave Richardson, Brian McMillan, Fannie De Villiers, Johnnty Rhodes and many others that bore the Green and Gold with pride. Those where great days. And yet there failures at tournaments are just as hurtful as these of today. Only it has happened far to much and for far to long. Supporters are hurting Mr Smith. SA is hurting. The time has come ad failure is no longer a thing that you can walk away from with a smile and an "oh well, better luck next time." We supporters are demanding more of you. We supporters want victory or you gone. Notice is served.
Not so warm regards
Ronjay.
Anyone got Smiths email? I would like to sent this to him.
How many times must South African fans be subjected to such bitter disappointment? How many times must we, the supporters of our country, have such high hopes only to have them dashed to the ground? I have supported this team since I was a young boy as most cricket lovers do in SA and remember the great games and special moments through the years as if they where yesterday. I remember the greatness of Dave Richardson, Brian McMillan, Fannie De Villiers, Johnnty Rhodes and many others that bore the Green and Gold with pride. Those where great days. And yet there failures at tournaments are just as hurtful as these of today. Only it has happened far to much and for far to long. Supporters are hurting Mr Smith. SA is hurting. The time has come ad failure is no longer a thing that you can walk away from with a smile and an "oh well, better luck next time." We supporters are demanding more of you. We supporters want victory or you gone. Notice is served.
Not so warm regards
Ronjay.
Anyone got Smiths email? I would like to sent this to him.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:09 PM
we always look to win games the same way. and there is one common denominator in all the times we've followed the same tactic - that is smith. unless CSA are purposefully looking for conservative coaches.
dont say that out loud, Lance will have your head on a stake :eek:
last year, after we choked, i said Botha should be captain, he was the only one trying to win the game today
dont say that out loud, Lance will have your head on a stake :eek:
last year, after we choked, i said Botha should be captain, he was the only one trying to win the game today
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:09 PM
So wait is smith telling kallis to sit back while the run rate climbs? I am asking a serious question here.
CHURCHILL
10-05-2010, 07:09 PM
@Lance, thank god for that, us English don't want anti English people like you supporting us anyway. As much as I tried not to rub it in, comments like old Lances make me. As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
Scrap everybody,get new coach new cricket board and new players.Fresh start.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
I'm here posting in the T20 thread rather than starting my own threads on the same topic.
are you trying to low blow or did you actually see when i started my thread? ;)
so what are your views on our performance? i'd love to hear this
are you trying to low blow or did you actually see when i started my thread? ;)
so what are your views on our performance? i'd love to hear this
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:12 PM
So wait is smith telling kallis to sit back while the run rate climbs? I am asking a serious question here.
i dont think bubbleboi ever has any idea what the current score, the other teams score or what the RR required is. he just counts his own runs in his head
i dont think bubbleboi ever has any idea what the current score, the other teams score or what the RR required is. he just counts his own runs in his head
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 07:12 PM
@Lance, that god for that, us English don't want anti English people like you supporting us anyway. As much as I tried not to rub it in, comments like old Lances make me. As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
Ha ha I am anti-English? Ha ha
I am "anti" anyone that my team plays against. I don't fence sit when it comes to my sports team allegiance! But rub it in as much as you want... it actually does not bother me too much. T20 is way too hit and miss to be taken too seriously.
Ha ha I am anti-English? Ha ha
I am "anti" anyone that my team plays against. I don't fence sit when it comes to my sports team allegiance! But rub it in as much as you want... it actually does not bother me too much. T20 is way too hit and miss to be taken too seriously.
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 07:12 PM
Watching the Proteas at major tournaments is not for the faint hearted...
I wasn't expecting much given our recent form so it's not really disappointing. But I was hoping that they at least try out some new guys instead of trying to force a winning formula out of the same guys.
I wasn't expecting much given our recent form so it's not really disappointing. But I was hoping that they at least try out some new guys instead of trying to force a winning formula out of the same guys.
Sting
10-05-2010, 07:13 PM
As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
True, thanks mate!
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
True, thanks mate!
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:13 PM
@Lance, thank god for that, us English don't want anti English people like you supporting us anyway. As much as I tried not to rub it in, comments like old Lances make me. As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
its not so much about the loss, its that they always fail without even a fight that pisses most of us off
its not so much about the loss, its that they always fail without even a fight that pisses most of us off
LancelotSA
10-05-2010, 07:13 PM
are you trying to low blow or did you actually see when i started my thread? ;)
so what are your views on our performance? i'd love to hear this
I've commented on that already. Should I rehash what I said just for your benefit or would you rather read back yourself?
so what are your views on our performance? i'd love to hear this
I've commented on that already. Should I rehash what I said just for your benefit or would you rather read back yourself?
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:14 PM
True, thanks mate!
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
go jump off a bridge you bastard! :mad:
i cant get any tickets in jhb:(
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
go jump off a bridge you bastard! :mad:
i cant get any tickets in jhb:(
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:17 PM
@Lance, thank god for that, us English don't want anti English people like you supporting us anyway. As much as I tried not to rub it in, comments like old Lances make me. As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
Dude it is sickening, go down swinging not plodding :(, as penguin says it is the way we lose that gets me the most upset.
Dude it is sickening, go down swinging not plodding :(, as penguin says it is the way we lose that gets me the most upset.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:17 PM
I've commented on that already. Should I rehash what I said just for your benefit or would you rather read back yourself?
a link will do
a link will do
Chris
10-05-2010, 07:17 PM
True, thanks mate!
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
The one of the few joys of living in the Eastern Cape :p
Yeah, I only got two games for the WC - France vs Uruguay and Portugal vs Korea. *sigh* No England vs. Algeria for me :(
Back on topic: Not a big surprise one must admit - it has sort of become expected that the Proteas don't do well in big tournaments. Smith must go. His only notable achievements as captain are to do with Test matches.
BTW, just got a CAT4 ticket for Eng vs Slovenia and 2x CAT of Portugal vs Ivory Coast!! Still some single CAT4 tickets left for England game...
The one of the few joys of living in the Eastern Cape :p
Yeah, I only got two games for the WC - France vs Uruguay and Portugal vs Korea. *sigh* No England vs. Algeria for me :(
Back on topic: Not a big surprise one must admit - it has sort of become expected that the Proteas don't do well in big tournaments. Smith must go. His only notable achievements as captain are to do with Test matches.
Ronjay
10-05-2010, 07:18 PM
@Lance, thank god for that, us English don't want anti English people like you supporting us anyway. As much as I tried not to rub it in, comments like old Lances make me. As for the rest of you, hard luck, you guys must be F offed.Proteas really let you guys down.
It's not England's fault that SA are out of this tournament, it's our own. I think England are a good team and deserve to take this tournament if they can. I don't support England as I only support our boys in the cricket but I do support your footy boys and hope they do well. Again it's SA's own damn fault that SA are out of this tournament.
It's not England's fault that SA are out of this tournament, it's our own. I think England are a good team and deserve to take this tournament if they can. I don't support England as I only support our boys in the cricket but I do support your footy boys and hope they do well. Again it's SA's own damn fault that SA are out of this tournament.
Abe
10-05-2010, 07:18 PM
Where's the Kallis fanclub???
Losers!!
We lost by 11 runs, balls wasted:
Gibbs 6
Duminy 2
Boucher 2
There is 10 of them. Kallis had to rebuild with AB after the two quick wickets up front. He perished going to increase the rate. At the time he went out, AB was on 17 off 22 balls.
I will say the same thing as I always do. If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. You need Kallis on the one side playing at his 120 odd strike rate and a striker on the other end taking chances. All of the teams (with the exception of Aus) have someone playing the same role. Our strikers are just useless.
Losers!!
We lost by 11 runs, balls wasted:
Gibbs 6
Duminy 2
Boucher 2
There is 10 of them. Kallis had to rebuild with AB after the two quick wickets up front. He perished going to increase the rate. At the time he went out, AB was on 17 off 22 balls.
I will say the same thing as I always do. If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. You need Kallis on the one side playing at his 120 odd strike rate and a striker on the other end taking chances. All of the teams (with the exception of Aus) have someone playing the same role. Our strikers are just useless.
milomak
10-05-2010, 07:18 PM
So wait is smith telling kallis to sit back while the run rate climbs? I am asking a serious question here.
not in so many words. but given the circumstances, the team can be told to follow one of 2 strategies:
1. attack from the get go;
2. be patient and pass the pressure to albie to get us out ofthe inevitable hole
i know which one i am guess is the instruction.
not in so many words. but given the circumstances, the team can be told to follow one of 2 strategies:
1. attack from the get go;
2. be patient and pass the pressure to albie to get us out ofthe inevitable hole
i know which one i am guess is the instruction.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 07:18 PM
Great now we talking bout soccer,almost as depressing.
Sting
10-05-2010, 07:22 PM
Not a big surprise one must admit - it has sort of become expected that the Proteas don't do well in big tournaments. Smith must go. His only notable achievements as captain are to do with Test matches.
I was hoping after the Oz tour that they would keep Johan Botha as the T20 captain and possibly the ODI captain as well, with Smith remaining the Test captain.
Obviously money talks and every player (and captain) wants to play as much as possible in every format of the game!
I was hoping after the Oz tour that they would keep Johan Botha as the T20 captain and possibly the ODI captain as well, with Smith remaining the Test captain.
Obviously money talks and every player (and captain) wants to play as much as possible in every format of the game!
manesan
10-05-2010, 07:22 PM
We lost by 11 runs, balls wasted:
Gibbs 6
Duminy 2
Boucher 2
There is 10 of them. Kallis had to rebuild with AB after the two quick wickets up front. He perished going to increase the rate. At the time he went out, AB was on 17 off 22 balls.
I will say the same thing as I always do. If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. You need Kallis on the one side playing at his 120 odd strike rate and a striker on the other end taking chances. All of the teams (with the exception of Aus) have someone playing the same role. Our strikers are just useless.
I have a different opinion, if the other batsmen are struggling Kallis should pick up his RR else it puts too much pressure on the innings, especially in this short version.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
Gibbs 6
Duminy 2
Boucher 2
There is 10 of them. Kallis had to rebuild with AB after the two quick wickets up front. He perished going to increase the rate. At the time he went out, AB was on 17 off 22 balls.
I will say the same thing as I always do. If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. You need Kallis on the one side playing at his 120 odd strike rate and a striker on the other end taking chances. All of the teams (with the exception of Aus) have someone playing the same role. Our strikers are just useless.
I have a different opinion, if the other batsmen are struggling Kallis should pick up his RR else it puts too much pressure on the innings, especially in this short version.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Great now we talking bout soccer,almost as depressing.
well after this bafana couldnt do any worse :p
well after this bafana couldnt do any worse :p
Abe
10-05-2010, 07:24 PM
killa - you could see smith was torn up in the post match interview
IMO, Smith needs to go. Put Botha as captain. If you don't want to open with Kallis, thats fine, he holds his place in the side as a bowler only. You will need someone else to fill the same role anyway. Replace our strikers, all three are not firing (Smith, Gibbs and Bosman).
IMO, Smith needs to go. Put Botha as captain. If you don't want to open with Kallis, thats fine, he holds his place in the side as a bowler only. You will need someone else to fill the same role anyway. Replace our strikers, all three are not firing (Smith, Gibbs and Bosman).
thesones
10-05-2010, 07:24 PM
why is Gibbs opening? Smith is crap!
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 07:24 PM
I have a different opinion, if the other batsmen are struggling Kallis should pick up his RR else it puts too much pressure on the innings, especially in this short version.
No Abe is right, people in the team need to fulfill their roles. Kallis as anchor, and strikers for striking. It doesn't help when your strikers are wasting balls, forcing your anchor to play their roles.
No Abe is right, people in the team need to fulfill their roles. Kallis as anchor, and strikers for striking. It doesn't help when your strikers are wasting balls, forcing your anchor to play their roles.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Abe kallis could see we were struggling, is it to much to ask a man who has hit 8 sixes and lies forth in the 6 list to hit a few more? No dude that excuse is getting thin now. Kallis can see ok we need big runs the other side is not doing it let me go for it. He did in the last game we chased, he did in the last game when paki's put us out. He cannot push on to score 80 off 40 so WTF is doing in our team? This is t20 you do not need to build for 20 deliveries and then go out.
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Honestly if kallis cannot play big innings in t20 he should not be there.
If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. Exactly abe he is the wrong person to be in our t20 squad, we want someone who can blast not plod.
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Honestly if kallis cannot play big innings in t20 he should not be there.
If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. Exactly abe he is the wrong person to be in our t20 squad, we want someone who can blast not plod.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 07:28 PM
True,thats why i said almost ;p
Sting
10-05-2010, 07:29 PM
What upsets me is that they did not give Rusty Theron a single game.
Slab
10-05-2010, 07:30 PM
I have a different opinion, if the other batsmen are struggling Kallis should pick up his RR else it puts too much pressure on the innings, especially in this short version.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
+1. You relax at 120(%)'s when there's a Warner/Watson-like in your side. Unless you open with someone like de Villiers.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
+1. You relax at 120(%)'s when there's a Warner/Watson-like in your side. Unless you open with someone like de Villiers.
Abe
10-05-2010, 07:32 PM
So wait is smith telling kallis to sit back while the run rate climbs? I am asking a serious question here.
It depends what role Kallis is supposed to play. If you want him to be a striker then he is not the right person. Our problem with the batting is that our strikers are not firing. You need 2 or 3 good strikers in your top 5 in 20/20, we have none that are actually performing. AB is sort of half doing it.
It depends what role Kallis is supposed to play. If you want him to be a striker then he is not the right person. Our problem with the batting is that our strikers are not firing. You need 2 or 3 good strikers in your top 5 in 20/20, we have none that are actually performing. AB is sort of half doing it.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:32 PM
What upsets me is that they did not give Rusty Theron a single game.
Nope to busy putting in gibbs who last had a good innings 3 years ago, then smith is captain so would not drop him, duminy has been useless for a long time now of course he starts and then kallis who is not a blaster plays every game. I can see how up and coming guys would not get a game, so much talent taking up spots in our team at the moment there is just no space.
Abe kallis can strike, he can strike better than most in the game. Again that excuse is BS dude. So basically if nobody fires in our team we will lose because kallis will not contribute fast runs? Wow what an awesome plan we have. No pressure on the other guys to get all the runs while kallis plods.
Nope to busy putting in gibbs who last had a good innings 3 years ago, then smith is captain so would not drop him, duminy has been useless for a long time now of course he starts and then kallis who is not a blaster plays every game. I can see how up and coming guys would not get a game, so much talent taking up spots in our team at the moment there is just no space.
Abe kallis can strike, he can strike better than most in the game. Again that excuse is BS dude. So basically if nobody fires in our team we will lose because kallis will not contribute fast runs? Wow what an awesome plan we have. No pressure on the other guys to get all the runs while kallis plods.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 07:33 PM
Pakistan out,england chasing and no pieterson.
Stephen
10-05-2010, 07:33 PM
Abe kallis could see we were struggling, is it to much to ask a man who has hit 8 sixes and lies forth in the 6 list to hit a few more? No dude that excuse is getting thin now. Kallis can ok we need big runs the other side is not doing it let me go for it. He did in the last game we chased, he did in the last game when paki's put us out. He cannot push on to score 80 off 40 so WTF is doing in our team? This is t20 you do not need to build for 20 deliveries and then go out.
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Honestly if kallis cannot play big innings in t20 he should not be there.
Absolute bull, do you even understand the game. I really think you actually do not.
The other players had plenty of time. Even the commentary I was listening to said that solely to blame Kallis is really tiresome
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Honestly if kallis cannot play big innings in t20 he should not be there.
Absolute bull, do you even understand the game. I really think you actually do not.
The other players had plenty of time. Even the commentary I was listening to said that solely to blame Kallis is really tiresome
Abe
10-05-2010, 07:34 PM
I have a different opinion, if the other batsmen are struggling Kallis should pick up his RR else it puts too much pressure on the innings, especially in this short version.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
If you want him to do that then he is the wrong person. The strikers should strike or go out. Ours are plodding along at less then a run a ball.
(Whether he has the ability though is another topic)
If you want him to do that then he is the wrong person. The strikers should strike or go out. Ours are plodding along at less then a run a ball.
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 07:35 PM
What upsets me is that they did not give Rusty Theron a single game.
That's my main gripe. Theron wasn't given a game and Kleinveldt was mismanaged.
I wasn't expecting us to win the tourney but I was hoping that they would use it as an opportunity to expose new players instead of sticking with the tried and failed.
That's my main gripe. Theron wasn't given a game and Kleinveldt was mismanaged.
I wasn't expecting us to win the tourney but I was hoping that they would use it as an opportunity to expose new players instead of sticking with the tried and failed.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:37 PM
Solely to blame, no not at all but he does not exactly go out of his way to win it for us does he? He is not a match winner, he is a plodder who expects everyone else to get the runs. So no he is not solely to blame he is just as useless as duminy, gibbs and smith.
Slab
10-05-2010, 07:38 PM
Pakistan out,england chasing and no pieterson.
Talk about predictability.
Talk about predictability.
Mike Hoxbig
10-05-2010, 07:38 PM
So basically if nobody fires in our team we will lose because kallis will not contribute fast runs? Wow what an awesome plan we have. No pressure on the other guys to get all the runs while kallis plods.
Then the question is why aren't the others firing, not why isn't Kallis blasting it. Would you ask Dale Steyn to bowl spin because our spinners aren't doing their job?
There are bigger issues to worry about with this team, starting from the top, and Kallis is not one of them.
Then the question is why aren't the others firing, not why isn't Kallis blasting it. Would you ask Dale Steyn to bowl spin because our spinners aren't doing their job?
There are bigger issues to worry about with this team, starting from the top, and Kallis is not one of them.
Abe
10-05-2010, 07:41 PM
Abe kallis could see we were struggling, is it to much to ask a man who has hit 8 sixes and lies forth in the 6 list to hit a few more? No dude that excuse is getting thin now. Kallis can see ok we need big runs the other side is not doing it let me go for it. He did in the last game we chased, he did in the last game when paki's put us out. He cannot push on to score 80 off 40 so WTF is doing in our team? This is t20 you do not need to build for 20 deliveries and then go out.
Every time he has been forced to push because the striker is f..king around, he has failed. When he paced it himself, he hit 75 off 55.
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Kallis holds his place in the side for bowling alone.
If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. Exactly abe he is the wrong person to be in our t20 squad, we want someone who can blast not plod.
You don't only want blasters in the side.
Every time he has been forced to push because the striker is f..king around, he has failed. When he paced it himself, he hit 75 off 55.
He never does, same old BS story. Drop smith and kallis from t20 side along with gibbs and duminy. Bring in botha as captain for all formats and send smith back to batting school.
Kallis holds his place in the side for bowling alone.
If you want Kallis to blast then you have the wrong person. Exactly abe he is the wrong person to be in our t20 squad, we want someone who can blast not plod.
You don't only want blasters in the side.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:41 PM
Then the question is why aren't the others firing, not why isn't Kallis blasting it. Would you ask Dale Steyn to bowl spin because our spinners aren't doing their job?
There are bigger issues to worry about with this team, starting from the top, and Kallis is not one of them.
Agg we will never agree on kallis, we are out so makes no difference now. They all played kuk cept botha :D.
Abe i don't expect kallis to blast every game but when he can see we are struggling and the RR is 10 is it to much to ask for him to have a go? Surely it is not to much to ask kallis to just try :(.
Anyways whatever another tournament another epic failure.
There are bigger issues to worry about with this team, starting from the top, and Kallis is not one of them.
Agg we will never agree on kallis, we are out so makes no difference now. They all played kuk cept botha :D.
Abe i don't expect kallis to blast every game but when he can see we are struggling and the RR is 10 is it to much to ask for him to have a go? Surely it is not to much to ask kallis to just try :(.
Anyways whatever another tournament another epic failure.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:43 PM
Kallis holds his place in the side for bowling alone.
failed argument, you dont bat at number 3 and hold your place by your bowling
failed argument, you dont bat at number 3 and hold your place by your bowling
Ou grote
10-05-2010, 07:45 PM
Absolute bull, do you even understand the game. I really think you actually do not.
The other players had plenty of time. Even the commentary I was listening to said that solely to blame Kallis is really tiresome
I agree wiith everything killa said there.
Therefore killa must be right and you are wrong.
The other players had plenty of time. Even the commentary I was listening to said that solely to blame Kallis is really tiresome
I agree wiith everything killa said there.
Therefore killa must be right and you are wrong.
milomak
10-05-2010, 07:45 PM
kallis went out at a run a ball and he still gets stick. what is the man to do?
CHURCHILL
10-05-2010, 07:45 PM
I reckon the Proteas need the likes of Kirsten and Donald, even Jonty or Wessels directly involved in the coaching setup, you know the old school players who have been there and done it.
Kallis is no Chris Gayle, but one thing he can do is keep an innings together at a pace he is comfortable with, he needs players like (dare I say) Kevin P to smash the boundries around him.
Smith needs another year of county cricket, AB tries but the team depends to much on him, same as Albie.
Kallis is no Chris Gayle, but one thing he can do is keep an innings together at a pace he is comfortable with, he needs players like (dare I say) Kevin P to smash the boundries around him.
Smith needs another year of county cricket, AB tries but the team depends to much on him, same as Albie.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 07:52 PM
kallis went out at a run a ball and he still gets stick. what is the man to do?
How about 97 off 52 like gayle? Isn't kallis regarded as one of the finest batsmen? You think 22 off 21 is good for a batter of his immense talent?
We are depending on to many players and ignoring our best batsmen, why can we not depend on our best batsmen to bring us home? West indies and england do it yet depending on kallis is a bit much for us to ask.
How about 97 off 52 like gayle? Isn't kallis regarded as one of the finest batsmen? You think 22 off 21 is good for a batter of his immense talent?
We are depending on to many players and ignoring our best batsmen, why can we not depend on our best batsmen to bring us home? West indies and england do it yet depending on kallis is a bit much for us to ask.
Slab
10-05-2010, 07:54 PM
Every time he has been forced to push because the striker is f..king around, he has failed. When he paced it himself, he hit 75 off 55.
Kallis holds his place in the side for bowling alone.
You don't only want blasters in the side.
+1
Kallis holds his place in the side for bowling alone.
You don't only want blasters in the side.
+1
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 07:55 PM
I reckon the Proteas need the likes of Kirsten and Donald, even Jonty or Wessels directly involved in the coaching setup, you know the old school players who have been there and done it.
Kallis is no Chris Gayle, but one thing he can do is keep an innings together at a pace he is comfortable with, he needs players like (dare I say) Kevin P to smash the boundries around him.
Smith needs another year of county cricket, AB tries but the team depends to much on him, same as Albie.
done what :confused: SA cricket has no WCs, though they did get pwnd by duckworth and lewis
Kallis is no Chris Gayle, but one thing he can do is keep an innings together at a pace he is comfortable with, he needs players like (dare I say) Kevin P to smash the boundries around him.
Smith needs another year of county cricket, AB tries but the team depends to much on him, same as Albie.
done what :confused: SA cricket has no WCs, though they did get pwnd by duckworth and lewis
superskully
10-05-2010, 07:55 PM
To those who compared Klusener to Morkel - surely you jest.
Stats alone, Klusener has an average double.
And yes, Klusener may not have been great at spin, but he could play it.
Remember the tour of Sri Lanka - his 95 not out and 100 and something earned us a draw - against murali. We won the test championship that season (test season was back then a few years) cos of that (Aus lost to Sril Lanka).
... he has done so much, even against spin.
I remember WI bringing on Gale in last over - think it was 13 to win - against Klusener - 1st ball 6....
You cannot compare a legend - Morkel is good, but not that good.
Stats alone, Klusener has an average double.
And yes, Klusener may not have been great at spin, but he could play it.
Remember the tour of Sri Lanka - his 95 not out and 100 and something earned us a draw - against murali. We won the test championship that season (test season was back then a few years) cos of that (Aus lost to Sril Lanka).
... he has done so much, even against spin.
I remember WI bringing on Gale in last over - think it was 13 to win - against Klusener - 1st ball 6....
You cannot compare a legend - Morkel is good, but not that good.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 08:01 PM
No morkel is just poorly managed, always brought in at the wrong time. I do agree though at times lance carried the entire team and he did it with class, he never plodded singles and said there are other players who should be winning the games :D. I will never forget the world cup in the west indies i think he carried us in every game we played. Then that arsehole smithers decided lance was getting all the attention and got him out.
Stephen
10-05-2010, 08:07 PM
I agree wiith everything killa said there.
Therefore killa must be right and you are wrong.
No Killa REALLY doesnt unterstand the game.
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
Therefore killa must be right and you are wrong.
No Killa REALLY doesnt unterstand the game.
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
CHURCHILL
10-05-2010, 08:10 PM
@Pumpkin, what I meant was, those old players played a good brand of cricket and where always enjoyable to watch.
JK8
10-05-2010, 08:10 PM
I still blame Kallis, even though the stats are against me, call it intuitive thinking Kallis needs to go and SA will make a final atleast...
superskully
10-05-2010, 08:11 PM
No morkel is just poorly managed, always brought in at the wrong time. I do agree though at times lance carried the entire team and he did it with class, he never plodded singles and said there are other players who should be winning the games :D. I will never forget the world cup in the west indies i think he carried us in every game we played. Then that arsehole smithers decided lance was getting all the attention and got him out.
Do also agree that Morkel is poor managed. But Lance a far better player - of all types of bowling. I remember him pulling akhtar for a 4 and 6 (the year he was rated as fastest bowler). Playing cover drives cuts... He had great shot selection.
Our players now seems to only know 1 shot - slog. Even AB who has all the shots (and what the hell is that paddle over the keeper - it does not work).
It took Botha to show them you just need some improvisation - paddle past fine leg, then cover drive, cut over third man... not just slog.
Cronje was a far better captain - he knew hot to use Klusener.
Also Cronje was not afraid to use only seamers (when he did have Boje in the attack) when they were on top.
Difference is i think our side are far better now, more balance, and we did not have the dominant Aus here now.
Do also agree that Morkel is poor managed. But Lance a far better player - of all types of bowling. I remember him pulling akhtar for a 4 and 6 (the year he was rated as fastest bowler). Playing cover drives cuts... He had great shot selection.
Our players now seems to only know 1 shot - slog. Even AB who has all the shots (and what the hell is that paddle over the keeper - it does not work).
It took Botha to show them you just need some improvisation - paddle past fine leg, then cover drive, cut over third man... not just slog.
Cronje was a far better captain - he knew hot to use Klusener.
Also Cronje was not afraid to use only seamers (when he did have Boje in the attack) when they were on top.
Difference is i think our side are far better now, more balance, and we did not have the dominant Aus here now.
Abe
10-05-2010, 08:12 PM
How about 97 off 52 like gayle? Isn't kallis regarded as one of the finest batsmen? You think 22 off 21 is good for a batter of his immense talent?
We are depending on to many players and ignoring our best batsmen, why can we not depend on our best batsmen to bring us home? West indies and england do it yet depending on kallis is a bit much for us to ask.
5, 12, 25, 5, 98 - his last 5 innings.
If you want that from your anchor player.
36, 27, 14, 19, 13 - Smith
73, 34, 31, 11, 22 - Kallis
Seems to me Smith wants to be the anchor but puts himself in as a striker. Kallis locks up one end and feeds strike to the other. I think the comparison with telling Dale Steyn to bowl spin is a good one. He is not a 100 off 50 balls type of batsmen. He won't fill that type of role. Smith is supposed to fill that role and is failing miserably, as is Gibbs and Bosman. I am not sure if Duminy is supposed to be a striker but he is also failing if thats his role.
We are depending on to many players and ignoring our best batsmen, why can we not depend on our best batsmen to bring us home? West indies and england do it yet depending on kallis is a bit much for us to ask.
5, 12, 25, 5, 98 - his last 5 innings.
If you want that from your anchor player.
36, 27, 14, 19, 13 - Smith
73, 34, 31, 11, 22 - Kallis
Seems to me Smith wants to be the anchor but puts himself in as a striker. Kallis locks up one end and feeds strike to the other. I think the comparison with telling Dale Steyn to bowl spin is a good one. He is not a 100 off 50 balls type of batsmen. He won't fill that type of role. Smith is supposed to fill that role and is failing miserably, as is Gibbs and Bosman. I am not sure if Duminy is supposed to be a striker but he is also failing if thats his role.
Ou grote
10-05-2010, 08:15 PM
No Killa REALLY doesnt unterstand the game.
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
lol, true
Its not often I agree with him on cricket, this is a rare occasion.
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
lol, true
Its not often I agree with him on cricket, this is a rare occasion.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 08:15 PM
No Killa REALLY doesnt unterstand the game.
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
I dont think you have any clue about whats going on, all you have said thus far is "its a team game" so what? curling is a team sport but the team relies on the curler, the sweepers cant do much if the curler fsckd up
@Pumpkin, what I meant was, those old players played a good brand of cricket and where always enjoyable to watch.
ah cool
If this was a rugby game Killa would whine why Bryan Habana cant scrum properly
I dont think you have any clue about whats going on, all you have said thus far is "its a team game" so what? curling is a team sport but the team relies on the curler, the sweepers cant do much if the curler fsckd up
@Pumpkin, what I meant was, those old players played a good brand of cricket and where always enjoyable to watch.
ah cool
manesan
10-05-2010, 08:17 PM
Ive seen Kallis on several occasions capable of smashing the ball just as good as anyone. He did a few times in the IPL but only once he moved past 50.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 08:18 PM
5, 12, 25, 5, 98 - his last 5 innings.
If you want that from your anchor player.
36, 27, 14, 19, 13 - Smith
73, 34, 31, 11, 22 - Kallis
but the key is they're going down at crunch time
If you want that from your anchor player.
36, 27, 14, 19, 13 - Smith
73, 34, 31, 11, 22 - Kallis
but the key is they're going down at crunch time
Luke7777
10-05-2010, 08:29 PM
Since nobody is commenting on that, and Kallis taking the blame for all our problems ;) ,I assume everyone is happy with AB throwing away his wicket for the umpfteenth time , playing an absolutely k@k shot...
Abe
10-05-2010, 08:29 PM
but the key is they're going down at crunch time
Kallis has gone out almost every time because he has had to push the rate because the strikers were not doing their jobs. The only time he held off push too early, he got 73 off 55 balls.
Kallis has gone out almost every time because he has had to push the rate because the strikers were not doing their jobs. The only time he held off push too early, he got 73 off 55 balls.
Sting
10-05-2010, 08:31 PM
Since nobody is commenting on that, and Kallis taking the blame for all our problems ;) ,I assume everyone is happy with AB throwing away his wicket for the umpfteenth time , playing an absolutely k@k shot...
Agreed, was not necessary.
Agreed, was not necessary.
killadoob
10-05-2010, 08:32 PM
Kallis is not a match winner, let's all move on and accept that.
sand_man
10-05-2010, 08:35 PM
all you have said thus far is "its a team game" so what?Well, isn't it?? All you've done is dissected, analysed and condemned Kallis's performance.
If you look at todays performance objectively rather than subjectively you will see a spinner who went for 33 runs in 2 overs (van der Merwe) and an opener with a license to slog score 3 off 9 (Gibbs).
Kallis was the 2nd highest scorer at the 3 highest strike rate in the team.
Sorry but you behaving like a scorned lover... I mean really, even starting a thread on the topic...
If you look at todays performance objectively rather than subjectively you will see a spinner who went for 33 runs in 2 overs (van der Merwe) and an opener with a license to slog score 3 off 9 (Gibbs).
Kallis was the 2nd highest scorer at the 3 highest strike rate in the team.
Sorry but you behaving like a scorned lover... I mean really, even starting a thread on the topic...
Mamajyot
10-05-2010, 08:36 PM
Hashim Amla our form player in India was not selected. He may look slow but his ODI rate is excellent. He never had a chance @ T20's.
The_Pumpkin_King
10-05-2010, 08:39 PM
Hashim Amla our form player in India was not selected. He may look slow but his ODI rate is excellent. He never had a chance @ T20's.
yeah, we'll put the choker at number 3 and the test player at number 4 lol
yeah, we'll put the choker at number 3 and the test player at number 4 lol
manesan
10-05-2010, 08:46 PM
Hashim Amla our form player in India was not selected. He may look slow but his ODI rate is excellent. He never had a chance @ T20's.
I think Hashim is very underrated ODI batsmen. He reads the game quite well and has the cricketing shots and stats to back himself up, and given the opportunity I think he could develop into a decent T20 player.
I think Hashim is very underrated ODI batsmen. He reads the game quite well and has the cricketing shots and stats to back himself up, and given the opportunity I think he could develop into a decent T20 player.
Abe
10-05-2010, 09:02 PM
I will say something, they have sort out this format. The side batting first has a major advantage over the side batting second.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 09:38 PM
So depressing watchign england chase the same score as us so easily.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Hmm or not.
JK8
10-05-2010, 10:22 PM
Go England!!!
lilggg
10-05-2010, 10:29 PM
If england can chase wtf cant we ;/
JK8
10-05-2010, 10:35 PM
Pakis made it hahaha, now they gonna win :D
Slab
10-05-2010, 10:35 PM
Difference between England and South Africa?
JK8
10-05-2010, 10:36 PM
Coz England went ahead of the run rate early and kept infront...
Sting
10-05-2010, 10:38 PM
Opening post updated... Semi-finals almost decided.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Who do i support now?All interest has been lost in this comp.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Oh ya forgot WI,ill support them.
jeremie
10-05-2010, 10:46 PM
Pakis made it hahaha, now they gonna win :D
Maybe, but I'm looking fwd to their big hitters.
They are quite capable until their 6th batsman.
Maybe, but I'm looking fwd to their big hitters.
They are quite capable until their 6th batsman.
JK8
10-05-2010, 10:46 PM
@ Liggg
Support the Pakis! They the current world champions and twice finalists and they need to beat the Aussies...
Support the Pakis! They the current world champions and twice finalists and they need to beat the Aussies...
JK8
10-05-2010, 10:49 PM
Jeremie, Mohamed Aamer has a 100 against NZ... They more than capable, the 2 Akmals, Misbah yet to fire, Afridi usually wakes up towards the end of the tournament... They can do it.
lilggg
10-05-2010, 10:52 PM
Yeah but they the ones behind the match fixin,2nd time we've lost to them the same way.And they miraculously qualify.DODGY
Lol,joking but u never know ;p
Lol,joking but u never know ;p
Abe
11-05-2010, 12:05 AM
@ Liggg
Support the Pakis! They the current world champions and twice finalists and they need to beat the Aussies...
Supporting anyone playing the Pakis, just because I know it will make you feel great.
Support the Pakis! They the current world champions and twice finalists and they need to beat the Aussies...
Supporting anyone playing the Pakis, just because I know it will make you feel great.
OzzieCapie
11-05-2010, 03:06 AM
I can see why SA comedians have so much good material. You have Zuma, Malema and all your pathetic sports teams. The Aussie comedians are sufferring, a bland PM and sports teams constantly punching above theie weight. FFS rugby union isn't even played in 70% of schools here.
The saffers always find a way to snatch defeat from victory.
Your strength is pace, yet you drop the guy with 5th most wickets (4th at time) in order to play two spinners who don't spin the ball off the pitch ( I have mentioned before that all S spinners are like that). What does that give you? Slow lollies.
You fickle supporters criticise the only batsman who performed consistently, still with 3rd most runs. You bring in your designated hitter with three overs to spare because you have no faith in him to keep his wicket. So that doubt gets into his mind and he chips away for singles to stay not out so he can't be blamed for others not bringing the run rate up.
The game failed with v.d Merwe, but still Langeveldt made up for that and kept the target low. Then the game failed when AB, Duminy and Boucher wasted too many balls, not when kallis scored 22 off as many balls -- you criticise hime when he gets 73 off 54, but then you also criticise him when he gets out early i.e. he didn't waste many balls yesterday.
Get your facts right guys...you have the players, you just don't play them, or don't give them the job to do, hence the doubt sets in.
Edit
For the record, kallis got 22 from 21 here. Between Gibbs, Smith, Duminy and Morkel you got 26 from 34...go figure as they say
The saffers always find a way to snatch defeat from victory.
Your strength is pace, yet you drop the guy with 5th most wickets (4th at time) in order to play two spinners who don't spin the ball off the pitch ( I have mentioned before that all S spinners are like that). What does that give you? Slow lollies.
You fickle supporters criticise the only batsman who performed consistently, still with 3rd most runs. You bring in your designated hitter with three overs to spare because you have no faith in him to keep his wicket. So that doubt gets into his mind and he chips away for singles to stay not out so he can't be blamed for others not bringing the run rate up.
The game failed with v.d Merwe, but still Langeveldt made up for that and kept the target low. Then the game failed when AB, Duminy and Boucher wasted too many balls, not when kallis scored 22 off as many balls -- you criticise hime when he gets 73 off 54, but then you also criticise him when he gets out early i.e. he didn't waste many balls yesterday.
Get your facts right guys...you have the players, you just don't play them, or don't give them the job to do, hence the doubt sets in.
Edit
For the record, kallis got 22 from 21 here. Between Gibbs, Smith, Duminy and Morkel you got 26 from 34...go figure as they say
Sting
11-05-2010, 06:20 AM
Today's games - the last 2 before the semi-finals:
Tue 11 May - St. Lucia - Sri Lanka v India (19h00)
Tue 11 May - St. Lucia - West Indies v Australia (23h00)
Sri Lanka and West Indies are battling for the final slot in the semi's and will face England on Thursday.
Other semi will be Australia vs Pakistan on Friday.
Tue 11 May - St. Lucia - Sri Lanka v India (19h00)
Tue 11 May - St. Lucia - West Indies v Australia (23h00)
Sri Lanka and West Indies are battling for the final slot in the semi's and will face England on Thursday.
Other semi will be Australia vs Pakistan on Friday.
Sting
11-05-2010, 06:21 AM
Get your facts right guys...you have the players, you just don't play them, or don't give them the job to do, hence the doubt sets in.
Spot on, as usual, mate!
Spot on, as usual, mate!
Stephen
11-05-2010, 09:17 AM
You go to laugh at the anti-Kallis brigade, they cant seem to understand the simple concept of a TEAM sport lol
@OzzieCapie - well said
@OzzieCapie - well said
killadoob
11-05-2010, 09:32 AM
Phew west indies are going to need a big innings again from their main man to beat sri lanka. Should be a cracker. Hopefully he can get his century this time :D. Deserved one last time out.
Even though cricket is suppose to be a team sport you just get the feeling if gayle does not fire they won't be able to set or chase a big total. He does well though, he must know he is the key to the west indies doing well and he handles that pressure so well. He must be the most laid back batsmen, he seems so chilled and calm but at the same time that chilled attitude just explodes into huge runs.
Very entertaining batsmen in all forms of the game.
Even though cricket is suppose to be a team sport you just get the feeling if gayle does not fire they won't be able to set or chase a big total. He does well though, he must know he is the key to the west indies doing well and he handles that pressure so well. He must be the most laid back batsmen, he seems so chilled and calm but at the same time that chilled attitude just explodes into huge runs.
Very entertaining batsmen in all forms of the game.
superskully
11-05-2010, 09:47 AM
Like Pakistan, India also have a chance.
Aus beat WI and India beat SL.
Aus beat WI and India beat SL.
Omac
11-05-2010, 11:52 AM
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Sport&set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=vn20100511075536651C172334&page_number=2
Ultimately, though, it is yet another failure for South Africa at a major ICC tournament, with the list of disappointments now growing to a huge 13. The end is surely nigh for a select group of players who have continued to let down a nation who have now waited for over a decade to celebrate a piece of silverware.
(my bold)
Couldn't agree more! Please!!!
Ultimately, though, it is yet another failure for South Africa at a major ICC tournament, with the list of disappointments now growing to a huge 13. The end is surely nigh for a select group of players who have continued to let down a nation who have now waited for over a decade to celebrate a piece of silverware.
(my bold)
Couldn't agree more! Please!!!
AMG133
11-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Just out of curiosity, how come one of the best performing players of the local Pro20 tournament didnt get a game? Rusty Theron? did he just go for a holiday??
Too much *** going on there for my liking & Im not surprised we've failed AGAIN, Smith IMO shouldnt captain the SA limited over side. Johan Botha should, well thats just my opinion.
Too much *** going on there for my liking & Im not surprised we've failed AGAIN, Smith IMO shouldnt captain the SA limited over side. Johan Botha should, well thats just my opinion.
manesan
11-05-2010, 10:21 PM
Wow, nicely played Sri Lanka.
sand_man
11-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Wow, nicely played Sri Lanka.Wasn't it just!!! TEAM WORK!!!!
JK8
11-05-2010, 11:05 PM
Yip India out, I wonder why they would leave out their best domestic player and arguably the best batsmen in the world! Apart from injury its rather stupid!
I like the semi finalist, Aus, Eng and SL in good form! Pakis you never know they might even beat this very powerful Aus side... They capable of anything.
Gonna be good!!
I like the semi finalist, Aus, Eng and SL in good form! Pakis you never know they might even beat this very powerful Aus side... They capable of anything.
Gonna be good!!
Sting
11-05-2010, 11:09 PM
Sri Lanka not guaranteed in semi's - all depends on this game, but Oz should win. West Indies must beat Oz by 23 or more runs to qualify for semi's.
killadoob
12-05-2010, 07:25 AM
OZ should win if gayle if fails.
Sting
12-05-2010, 08:51 AM
Thu 13 May - St. Lucia - Semi-final 1: England vs Sri Lanka
Fri 14 May - St. Lucia - Semi-final 2: Australia vs Pakistan
Sun 16 May - Barbados - Men's Final
Fri 14 May - St. Lucia - Semi-final 2: Australia vs Pakistan
Sun 16 May - Barbados - Men's Final
killadoob
12-05-2010, 10:44 AM
Awww gayle failed o well. Aus england final anyone?
Devill
12-05-2010, 10:50 AM
Looks like the proteas might get a major make over after the WC next year.
Smith seems to have fallen out of favour and Kallis and boucher also look to be dropped from the Pro20 team.
I say good. Look at Aus using Pro20 to bring their players through to ODI and Test cricket.
Will be interesting to see if botha (which I rate as a better captain than smith) will take over in the 20/20s.
Smith seems to have fallen out of favour and Kallis and boucher also look to be dropped from the Pro20 team.
I say good. Look at Aus using Pro20 to bring their players through to ODI and Test cricket.
Will be interesting to see if botha (which I rate as a better captain than smith) will take over in the 20/20s.
killadoob
12-05-2010, 12:40 PM
Good news, i hope gibbs is in that list as well.
AirWolf
12-05-2010, 01:12 PM
Good news, i hope gibbs is in that list as well.
At 36 he probably is.
At 36 he probably is.
JK8
12-05-2010, 11:29 PM
Fail Killa! It will be repeat of last years final!
Changes in the Proteas... I've been saying it for years no, ay...
Changes in the Proteas... I've been saying it for years no, ay...
peace
13-05-2010, 04:38 AM
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15931/title/captain-no1/cat/all
Devill
13-05-2010, 11:47 AM
The thing I can not understand is why was Alviro petersen was not taken with!?
Also why did theron not get a chance, was he injured?
My team after this fiasco will be:
1) Petersen
2) Maybe J. Rudolph? (no idea who is doing what on the local scene)
3) AB
4) A. Morkel
5) Duminey
6) Kuhn
7) Botha
8) Theron
9) Parnell
10) Steyn
11) Langeveldt / Morkel / Another spinner
Also why did theron not get a chance, was he injured?
My team after this fiasco will be:
1) Petersen
2) Maybe J. Rudolph? (no idea who is doing what on the local scene)
3) AB
4) A. Morkel
5) Duminey
6) Kuhn
7) Botha
8) Theron
9) Parnell
10) Steyn
11) Langeveldt / Morkel / Another spinner
killadoob
13-05-2010, 11:52 AM
Devil looks decent, what SA need to do is what the aussies are doing, bring in new blood. There is no point keeping in old players who do not have long left. We need fresh meat dammit not this old worn out failure of a team we keep persisting with. Change out mentality into one of we either go out and win or lose, no in between.
Plan for the future you may go through a slump like the aussies did but that is finally paying off for them with some massive talent coming through the ranks because they gave them a chance.
Plan for the future you may go through a slump like the aussies did but that is finally paying off for them with some massive talent coming through the ranks because they gave them a chance.
Devill
13-05-2010, 11:57 AM
Devil looks decent, what SA need to do is what the aussies are doing, bring in new blood. There is no point keeping in old players who do not have long left. We need fresh meat dammit not this old worn out failure of a team we keep persisting with. Change out mentality into one of we either go out and win or lose, no in between.
Plan for the future you may go through a slump like the aussies did but that is finally paying off for them with some massive talent coming through the ranks because they gave them a chance.
Well in my group rudolph and petersen are the oldest. After them I think it is steyn at 27 then AB at 26 :)
I agree give the younger guys a run and expose them to high class cricket, thus keeping the feeding lines for test and ODI sqauds alive.
Plan for the future you may go through a slump like the aussies did but that is finally paying off for them with some massive talent coming through the ranks because they gave them a chance.
Well in my group rudolph and petersen are the oldest. After them I think it is steyn at 27 then AB at 26 :)
I agree give the younger guys a run and expose them to high class cricket, thus keeping the feeding lines for test and ODI sqauds alive.
Bizkit87
13-05-2010, 12:12 PM
The thing I can not understand is why was Alviro petersen was not taken with!?
Also why did theron not get a chance, was he injured?
My team after this fiasco will be:
1) Petersen
2) Maybe J. Rudolph? (no idea who is doing what on the local scene)
3) AB
4) A. Morkel
5) Duminey
6) Kuhn
7) Botha
8) Theron
9) Parnell
10) Steyn
11) Langeveldt / Morkel / Another spinner
I propose the following team
1. G. Bodi/B. Snijman
2. G. Smith [he'll be back, and if so, he is as dangerous as any batsmen out there, notice [B]not captain]
3. AB de Villiers
4. C. Ingram
5. R. Russouw/D. Elgar
6. A. Morkel
7. H. Kuhn [wk]
8. D. Steyn
9. J. Botha [captain]
10. J. Theron
11. C. Langeveldt
12. M. Morkel
13. B. Snijman/G. Bodi
14. R. v/d Merwe
15. A. Puttick
There is a squad of 15 players that I think would do really well in T20's
Also why did theron not get a chance, was he injured?
My team after this fiasco will be:
1) Petersen
2) Maybe J. Rudolph? (no idea who is doing what on the local scene)
3) AB
4) A. Morkel
5) Duminey
6) Kuhn
7) Botha
8) Theron
9) Parnell
10) Steyn
11) Langeveldt / Morkel / Another spinner
I propose the following team
1. G. Bodi/B. Snijman
2. G. Smith [he'll be back, and if so, he is as dangerous as any batsmen out there, notice [B]not captain]
3. AB de Villiers
4. C. Ingram
5. R. Russouw/D. Elgar
6. A. Morkel
7. H. Kuhn [wk]
8. D. Steyn
9. J. Botha [captain]
10. J. Theron
11. C. Langeveldt
12. M. Morkel
13. B. Snijman/G. Bodi
14. R. v/d Merwe
15. A. Puttick
There is a squad of 15 players that I think would do really well in T20's
Devill
13-05-2010, 12:16 PM
I propose the following team
1. G. Bodi/B. Snijman
2. G. Smith [he'll be back, and if so, he is as dangerous as any batsmen out there, notice [B]not captain]
3. AB de Villiers
4. C. Ingram
5. R. Russouw/D. Elgar
6. A. Morkel
7. H. Kuhn [wk]
8. D. Steyn
9. J. Botha [captain]
10. J. Theron
11. C. Langeveldt
12. M. Morkel
13. B. Snijman/G. Bodi
14. R. v/d Merwe
15. A. Puttick
There is a squad of 15 players that I think would do really well in T20's
Lol, forgot about bodi and snijman :o
i did not pick smith as I said on form guys :p But I agree if he is on form he is great :D
1. G. Bodi/B. Snijman
2. G. Smith [he'll be back, and if so, he is as dangerous as any batsmen out there, notice [B]not captain]
3. AB de Villiers
4. C. Ingram
5. R. Russouw/D. Elgar
6. A. Morkel
7. H. Kuhn [wk]
8. D. Steyn
9. J. Botha [captain]
10. J. Theron
11. C. Langeveldt
12. M. Morkel
13. B. Snijman/G. Bodi
14. R. v/d Merwe
15. A. Puttick
There is a squad of 15 players that I think would do really well in T20's
Lol, forgot about bodi and snijman :o
i did not pick smith as I said on form guys :p But I agree if he is on form he is great :D
Bizkit87
13-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Lol, forgot about bodi and snijman :o
i did not pick smith as I said on form guys :p But I agree if he is on form he is great :D
yeah, and with this middle order, de Villiers/Ingram/Russouw/Morkel/Kuhn were are bound to score a lot of runs even if we lose a few wickets....
I would love to see this team in action.
i did not pick smith as I said on form guys :p But I agree if he is on form he is great :D
yeah, and with this middle order, de Villiers/Ingram/Russouw/Morkel/Kuhn were are bound to score a lot of runs even if we lose a few wickets....
I would love to see this team in action.
killadoob
13-05-2010, 01:05 PM
I would love to see any team in action that has promising talent in it.
To see us trying out new guys would be something of a miracle though.
To see us trying out new guys would be something of a miracle though.
Bizkit87
13-05-2010, 01:17 PM
I would love to see any team in action that has promising talent in it.
To see us trying out new guys would be something of a miracle though.
yes, but i think we must start re-building NOW...
To see us trying out new guys would be something of a miracle though.
yes, but i think we must start re-building NOW...
JK8
13-05-2010, 02:22 PM
Anyone know the time the games start?
Stephen
13-05-2010, 02:38 PM
Anyone know the time the games start?
5.30pm SA time, dont know what time it will be in India though
5.30pm SA time, dont know what time it will be in India though
sand_man
13-05-2010, 03:46 PM
Should be a great contest!!! Sri Lanka to edge it me thinks, going to be very tight... Maybe even a Super over finish...
AirWolf
13-05-2010, 04:55 PM
5.30pm SA time, dont know what time it will be in India though
Do you know if will be on SABC3?
Do you know if will be on SABC3?
Stephen
13-05-2010, 05:06 PM
Do you know if will be on SABC3?
I am not sure, if it is, it will probably be delayed and start at 7.30pm
I am not sure, if it is, it will probably be delayed and start at 7.30pm
JK8
13-05-2010, 05:30 PM
Go SL!!!!
Can't let these Brits think they know how to play cricket!! :D
Can't let these Brits think they know how to play cricket!! :D
Sting
13-05-2010, 05:44 PM
England vs Australia final ....
killadoob
13-05-2010, 06:48 PM
England vs Australia final ....
Think so as well, england have one foot in the door
Think so as well, england have one foot in the door
peace
13-05-2010, 08:05 PM
i think Pak & eng gonna be in final & eng going to repeat the history like south africa did.
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15931/title/captain-no1/cat/all
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15931/title/captain-no1/cat/all
Chris
13-05-2010, 08:39 PM
And it's all so sad - Kieswetter was schooled here in South Africa...he'd definitely sort out the opening batsman problem.
Stephen
13-05-2010, 08:43 PM
i think Pak & eng gonna be in final & eng going to repeat the history like south africa did.
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15931/title/captain-no1/cat/all
Yes yes we know you are super cool and a super rebel posting the pick a SECOND time. I hope to see you in the frontlines when people storm the CSA offices in protest of the Proteas poor performances. I am sure you can hang on until then :rolleyes:
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15931/title/captain-no1/cat/all
Yes yes we know you are super cool and a super rebel posting the pick a SECOND time. I hope to see you in the frontlines when people storm the CSA offices in protest of the Proteas poor performances. I am sure you can hang on until then :rolleyes:
AirWolf
13-05-2010, 09:15 PM
SL comprehensively beaten.
killadoob
13-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Aus england final and i have a sneaky feeling this is England's tournament but never write the aussies off.