View Full Version : England vs Australia, T20's & ODI's, January 2011
The Ashes is history... England thrashed the Aussies 3-1.
Looking forward to the contest in the shorter form of the game with the first of two T20's on right now. You can follow it on CricInfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/engine/current/match/446960.html?CMP=NLC-DLY), if like me you're nowhere near a telly.
So I am routing for the Aussies today. Reason is simple, if England win, then the establish a record of 8 in a row T20 wins. So come on Oz and give the Poms a snotklap! :D
Loads of new faces in this game
Australia won the toss and elected to bat.
Aus 83/1 ... 8.4 overs
Watson out for 59. One big over of 26 off Swann gave the Aussies some momentum.
phoneJunky
12-01-2011, 11:43 AM
Pace really slowed down in the last 8 overs. 122/3 after 16
Pace really slowed down in the last 8 overs. 122/3 after 16
Essentially after Watson left.
20 overs ... Australia 157/4
England need 158 to win.
phoneJunky
12-01-2011, 12:10 PM
And they started to well, looks like Aus under Watson will be the same as Aus under Pointing.
phoneJunky
12-01-2011, 01:50 PM
Close game, 4 runs in it and 1 wicket remaining
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Nice one boys. Confirmation of the T20 world champ status, thats all.
/moves over to follow the Proteas game
killadoob
12-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Nice one boys. Confirmation of the T20 world champ status, thats all.
Confirmation? Beating a rubbish team like the aussies is confirmation? I think not.
Hogrod
12-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Confirmation? Beating a rubbish team like the aussies is confirmation? I think not.
Australia are rubbish? I thought England were just superior, they outplayed and outclassed.
Australia is not awesome side they once were. They have beaten enough to justify a drop in status. I'd rank them behind (in no particular order) India, South Africa and England. Haven't seen Sri Lanka in recent times, so (regrettably) I'll credit Australia ahead of Sri Lanka. So that puts them 4th in most forms of the game.
Another point worthy of mention is the lack of experience in the Australian side playing in today's T20. So can you truly state that this win confirms their status? I personally think not.
I take nothing away from their win. They had to hold on in the end to ensure their win. But does not, imho, confirm their status.
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 07:52 PM
@McT and Killadoob, I know it must grate the f*** out of you to see England winning some matches, just accept it boys. England are the current T20 champs and like McT said, if England won today, they will hold the record for 8 straight wins, so is that not confirmation that they are currently the T20 champs???
killadoob
12-01-2011, 08:12 PM
Yup winning 8 in a row is but beating this aussie team does not mean anything to me.
I have no issues with england, i am glad because they have thumped the aussies. I do however sense that england and their supporters tend to get carried away with a few successes, it was not so long ago they sucked :D. When england become the number test team and odi team then perhaps it is time for the arrogance and thinking they are best.
Is england rated as no 1 in t20's?
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 08:22 PM
@Killadoob, agreed the Ozzy's are struggling at the moment, even the proteas could manage a win or two against them. Some SA sport fans, their arrogance is not far off either.
Yup winning 8 in a row is but beating this aussie team does not mean anything to me.
I have no issues with england, i am glad because they have thumped the aussies. I do however sense that england and their supporters tend to get carried away with a few successes, it was not so long ago they sucked :D. When england become the number test team and odi team then perhaps it is time for the arrogance and thinking they are best.
Is england rated as no 1 in t20's?
Means nothing to beat Australia ;)
Trying to find rankings for T20's will look just now.
@Killadoob, agreed the Ozzy's are struggling at the moment, even the proteas could manage a win or two against them. Some SA sport fans, their arrogance is not far off either.
What's a South African sports fan without vociferous arrogance once in a while. Sport would not be a passion. :D
killadoob
12-01-2011, 08:28 PM
You can be arrogant when you have been rated as the worlds best test and odi team.
You cannot be arrogant if you beat the crap aussies and have barely been in the top 5 for odi and five day over the last decade. Arrogance is something no 1 teams show, not no1 wannabe's.
Not so long ago england were on the wrong side of the world rankings.
Granted the rankings have not been around for that long but let's talk considered when the ranking didn't exist :D.
Rosaudio
12-01-2011, 08:32 PM
T20 Rankings
1. England 98
2. South Africa 95
3. Sri Lanka 91
4. India 90
5. Pakistan 89
6. Australia 85
7. West Indies 84
8. New Zealand 71
9. Bangladesh 36
10. Zimbabwe 29
11. Netherlands 2
12. Ireland 1
There you go
killadoob
12-01-2011, 08:38 PM
O i thought they must be considering they won the world cup. Where did you find that? cricinfo?
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 08:38 PM
Well England are busy climbing the charts, and have won a world cup contest, not bad for a wannabe team, I know of teams who have no silver in the cabinet. Arrogance what.
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the info Rosaudio.
Rosaudio
12-01-2011, 08:41 PM
O i thought they must be considering they won the world cup. Where did you find that? cricinfo?
http://www.cricketworld4u.com/team-ranking.php
killadoob
12-01-2011, 08:45 PM
Awesome, 5th,3rd and 1st.
Interesting to see that same list in a year because this england team is so amazing surely they should move up a few positions in the other formats. I mean surely an amazing team like england should be dominating international cricket across all formats?
I guess they may as well enjoy the lime light, they are not really used to being considered a great team. Cheers england you bunch of aussie whipping legends :D
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 08:52 PM
5th, 3rd ,1st and a WC trophy, Killadoob stop leaving out the juicy bits:)
killadoob
12-01-2011, 08:55 PM
5th, 3rd ,1st and a WC trophy, Killadoob stop leaving out the juicy bits:)
Eish yea the WC trophy hurts me :(.
WC's though are one offs, look at NZ they have not won a WC for many years but they are rated as the best most feared team.
Cricket and world cups are not really as big as rugby and soccer, being number 1 or there about is more important although i would take a WC trophy over the number spot for the next year :D.
CHURCHILL
12-01-2011, 09:04 PM
@Killadoob, its a bit like golf I think, its great being ranked number 1, but not having a major under your belt is a hard pill to swallow, ask o'l Lee Westwood.
killadoob
12-01-2011, 09:07 PM
@Killadoob, its a bit like golf I think, its great being ranked number 1, but not having a major under your belt is a hard pill to swallow, ask o'l Lee Westwood.
Very hard to swallow but those people who win once and do nothing from there are better than him? No point having a major under your belt and being ranked 170th haha.
Although it would nice to have a major under our belt at some point in my life time :D.
Okay conceded their ranking but check this on CricInfo (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=3;home_or_away=1;home_or_away=2;h ome_or_away=3;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=5; template=results;type=team).
BRANDON69
13-01-2011, 07:45 PM
Australia have a good side to beat England in the ODI series but they are not selecting them properly.
I reckon they're a wee but shell-shocked at the mo :D
Even the selectors are having trouble thinking clearly.
The big question is whether the Aussies can bounce back.
Game on, second T20i on at the MCG. Australia won the toss and chose to bat.
After 10 overs... Australia are 73/3
They are struggling here and will do well to post a competitive total.
20 overs ... Australia managed to get to 147/7
Top score in the innings was Finch with a well played 53 off 33 balls
Not sure that this total is competitive enough. Their bowling will need to be well above par to stop a confident English side.
2 quick wickets by Johnson :)
After 10 overs ... England are 74/3 and need another 74 at 7.4 rpo to win
Should be an interesting finish ;)
CHURCHILL
14-01-2011, 01:16 PM
2 quick wickets by Johnson :)
Yip, England's wickets are falling quick now, damn just hang in there boy's.
Looks like their record of 8 in a row will be where it ends.
England 119/6 ... need 29 from 14 balls. Doable but it's going to be tough.
[Quattro]
14-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Could have made it...
Australia win by 4 runs. How close was that.
Chris Woakes almost made it 6 losses in a row for Australia with a 6 off the 4th ball (off of Lee, mind you).
They will be happy with that. Lee, Johnson and Watson were the heroes from Australia.
HypoThesis
14-01-2011, 03:55 PM
I know its old news by now but everytime I watch the Ozzie fast bowlers bowl, bar Watson, all that comes to my mind is "chuck, chuck, chuck". Tait's action is the worst of the lot...how he even manages to aim accurately boggles the mind
killadoob
14-01-2011, 04:05 PM
Guess that game shows how england are not worthy champions, surely one game must mean they suck again.
To lose to this aussie team in a test and t20 :eek:, sis.
Guess that game shows how england are not worthy champions, surely one game must mean they suck again.
To lose to this aussie team in a test and t20 :eek:, sis.
lol :D
killadoob
16-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Looks like england will lose again.
Why are the fans booing clarke?
[Quattro]
16-01-2011, 11:19 AM
England has to beat Aus, they/we can't afford to give them any sort of confidence before the WC.
CHURCHILL
16-01-2011, 01:05 PM
@Doob, England put up a good total for the Australia to chase, and the Aussies are doing well, not such a bad outfit afterall. Looks like I might have to retract my other comment about the Ptoteas being able to pull off 1 or 2 wins against the Aussies.
killadoob
16-01-2011, 01:17 PM
Ouch england got pomped solid by this aussie team :eek:
Typical england, walk around thinking they are legends after one good test series win. Then they get pomped hard :D.
Shame
CHURCHILL
16-01-2011, 01:39 PM
Lol @ Doob, obviously forgot about last nights local match, anyway with all your arrogant/pompous chest beating, I'm beginning to wonder if you have some british blood in you;)
killadoob
16-01-2011, 02:14 PM
We lost because we are looking for talent much like the aussies, losing is expected but when you field your strongest team and get pomped by a rubbish team lacking talent then you just go :eek:
CHURCHILL
16-01-2011, 03:26 PM
"Searching for talent", FFS, nice one doob, I must remember that excuse. LOL.
TIP: searching for talent does not mean pulling strings in high places to get Pakistan players citizenship
killadoob
16-01-2011, 08:18 PM
"Searching for talent", FFS, nice one doob, I must remember that excuse. LOL.
TIP: searching for talent does not mean pulling strings in high places to get Pakistan players citizenship
O did i forget to mention we lost against india? Not some dumbass aussie team :D. I don't need an excuse to lose to a very good india team, england however need some excuses but i think suck is more likely the outcome :p
@Doob, England put up a good total for the Australia to chase, and the Aussies are doing well, not such a bad outfit afterall. Looks like I might have to retract my other comment about the Ptoteas being able to pull off 1 or 2 wins against the Aussies.
Their ODI team looks a lot, lot stronger than the T20i team did. Would have liked to see the Poms snotklap them in this game though. Aussies, I think, are still ranked No. 1 in ODI's.
The second ODI is in play. England won the toss and chose to bowl.
Currently 149/8 in the 39th over. Marsh not out on 61 is top scorer.
Looks like the Poms own this one.
killadoob
21-01-2011, 08:12 AM
You suck
Then you show why you are the champs in t20 and rated as one of the best sides in the world
then you suck again
It's a bloody seesaw supporting them :D
Don't write off the aussies just yet. They have a talent problem but the winning mentality is still lingering.
Good to see South Africa is not the only slumping team.
Marsh just went to his century. Run a ball. Taking the total to something which they might defend.
killadoob
21-01-2011, 08:40 AM
Bollinger is not doing too badly either, 52 runs off the last 5 overs :eek:
230-250 is on unless england get a wicket :D.
Yeah, Bollinger to date has lifted his average from 3.5 to 16.5 in this innings.
I spoke to soon about the Oz chances. Runs in the board and it's defendable ;)
Good 88 run partnership ends. Gives the Aussies a chance.
killadoob
21-01-2011, 08:55 AM
230 should be easy stuff for such an amazing team like england.
SinghDude
21-01-2011, 09:01 AM
Poms have let the Aussies of the hook here. Should have bowled 'em out for < 150.
2 quick wickets for Bollinger. England struggling at 37/3
killadoob
21-01-2011, 10:25 AM
Dammit i wish i could leave work and go watch this amazing england team romp home :(.
They are the most amazing team like eva dude.
Not sure if the Poms will make it today :(
Looks like Hauritz has done himself a nasty. Shoulder injured while fielding. Be sorry if he doesn't go to WC
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 12:19 PM
Any chance of an England one run loss? :D
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 12:22 PM
7 down now...
36.4
Watson to Bresnan, OUT, 133.0 kph, Watson's the man! The runner has caused all kinds of trouble. What a comeback Matt Prior is having! Bresnan dropped this by his toes, Yardy set off for one, Prior sent him back but Watson had gathered and threw down the stumps
MH Yardy run out 22 (31b 1x4 0x6) SR: 70.96
Injury list for this game grows:
- Hauritz / shoulder
- Tait / groin
- Bresnan / not sure yet; has a runner
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 12:45 PM
Injury list for this game grows:
- Hauritz / shoulder
- Tait / groin
- Bresnan / not sure yet; has a runner
Bresnan is faking to confuse the Aussies :p.
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 12:52 PM
8 down now.
43.2
Bollinger to Bresnan, OUT, 139.0 kph, Bollinger has his third! Short ball that Bresnan tried to flip up to the third man boundary, couldn't get it fine enough and Watson ran in to take the catch
TT Bresnan c Watson b Bollinger 19 (27b 2x4 0x6) SR: 70.37
England require another 53 runs with 2 wickets and 39 balls remaining
Looks like a nail-biting finish is on the cards....
Bresnan out. Nearly 8 an over here for the tail to chase. Looks like the Aussies will take this one. :(
So is it Marsh or Bollinger for man of the match?
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 12:55 PM
43.5
Bollinger to Tredwell, OUT, It's Bollinger's day! Tredwell is late coming forward and it smacks him flush on the pad in front. One more to go!
JC Tredwell lbw b Bollinger 16 (24b 1x4 0x6) SR: 66.66
9 down. Bollinger to be mom.
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Done. 184 all out.
44.6
Hussey to Tremlett, OUT, that's it! Clarke has finished it off! Tremlett clipped to midwicket, Shahzad set off for one that was never there and couldn't turn back in time. Australia have a hat-trick of wins!
A Shahzad run out 2 (3b 0x4 0x6) SR: 66.66
And we couldn't do this a few days ago.
AirWolf
21-01-2011, 01:08 PM
Look on the bright side - Aussies on a role so it will divert attention away from us before the World Cup.
Look on the bright side - Aussies on a role so it will divert attention away from us before the World Cup.
Got a horrible feeling that India might do it to us as well. I hope I am wrong.
[Quattro]
21-01-2011, 05:17 PM
;5394401']England has to beat Aus, they/we can't afford to give them any sort of confidence before the WC.
Too late. :sigh:
killadoob
21-01-2011, 05:29 PM
You guys act like england are so amazing :D.
They are useless in my opinion. Poor bowling, extremely poor batting line up without KP.
Looks like another easy win for the Aussies :(
sand_man
23-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Looks like another easy win for the Aussies :(Yip. I always say form is temporary class is permanent, never assume anything when it comes to the Ozzies...
killadoob
23-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Yip. I always say form is temporary class is permanent, never assume anything when it comes to the Ozzies...
No never assume england are a good 50 over team, they have not been for many years.
sand_man
23-01-2011, 01:54 PM
No never assume england are a good 50 over team, they have not been for many years.
Here's a stat that underlines South Africa's almost inevitable invincibility in bilateral ODI series at home - They have lost just one since 2002 - last year, against England.
killadoob
23-01-2011, 02:53 PM
Meaning what exactly?
That one series win in SA in 2002 somehow makes them an amazing team? England have their moments but for the most part they suck ass.
sand_man
23-01-2011, 02:56 PM
Meaning what exactly?
That one series win in SA in 2002 somehow makes them an amazing team? England have their moments but for the most part they suck ass.Meaning you need to comprehend what you read. The series win was last year and the 1st since 2002...
4th ODI England won the toss and opted to bat first.
England posted 299/8 after 50 overs
Prior 67, Trott 102 and Hussey 21/4
Probably England's best chance to get a win here. They need to win this to keep the series alive.
AirWolf
26-01-2011, 09:41 AM
Australia should give those pommies a white wash :D.
"Happy Australia Day" everyone :p
Australia should give those pommies a white wash :D.
Not good if want the number one status... if so we need the Poms to start "snotklapping" the Aussies :D
Couple of quick wickets and Aus are 33/2 after 7 overs - RRR now 6.2
McGuywer
26-01-2011, 01:23 PM
England won by 21 runs.
That's good news. Go England.
21 runs looks closer than I think it really was.
Michael Clarke's batting continues to look weak. Don't think he is suited to limited overs cricket. Too slow and puts pressure on the rest of team.
McGuywer
26-01-2011, 02:16 PM
unfortunatly I did not watch the match.
Will certainly watch the World Cup and then I hope Michael could help us...
Mike Hoxbig
26-01-2011, 02:29 PM
England won by 21 runs.
That's good news. Go England.
No ways, I'd rather root for the Aussies than the Poms, and that's saying a lot.
England will win one game and start touting themselves as better than anybody else.
Anyway good partnership by Lee and Smith at the end. The match was always lost at 201/7, but they did well to get within 21 runs.
Australia have touted themselves better than the rest for so long that we don't seem to notice it anymore :p
Mike Hoxbig
26-01-2011, 03:34 PM
Lol that's because they actually were the best, only now they're not :p
Fast they are losing their way. And under the captaincy of Clarke that loss of direction could be hastened.
If England do not win this one, got to worry about their chances in the WC. It's a god total and should be easily defended by most decent bowling attacks.
The problem the Poms might have is the lack of depth in their bowling department.
So the Aussies are chasing 334 in 50 overs and are currently going at 8/over after 4.
CHURCHILL
02-02-2011, 10:27 AM
If England do not win this one, got to worry about their chances in the WC. It's a god total and should be easily defended by most decent bowling attacks.
The problem the Poms might have is the lack of depth in their bowling department.
So the Aussies are chasing 334 in 50 overs and are currently going at 8/over after 4.
Spot on, the lack of depth in the bowling department is a bit of concern, ecspecialy if Swann, Tremlit, Bresnin and Sidebottom are not playing.
Lets hope these guys are included in the England CWC squad.
DrYes
02-02-2011, 10:28 AM
Aussies going strong after Brett Lee takes a pasting.
The Aussies were cruising until that run out. Will be interesting to see if Clarke is his usual sedate self our can keep the tempo going. They need 167 from 25 overs at 6'6 to win. Interesting game this. Wish I could watch :(
Johnson gone for well played 57. If Clarke stays at the wicket for another 10, England should win ;)
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 12:59 PM
48 required from 36 balls.
Johnson gone for well played 57. If Clarke stays at the wicket for another 10, England should win ;)
For once it looks like Clarke might pull this chase off :eek:
30 required from 27 balls. Australia should easily win this one. :(
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:08 PM
The Aussies are going to pull this off. That 6 by Hussey to pass 300 is the nail in the coffin.
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 01:10 PM
And that's how you chase without wetting your pants.
@ Chruchill, would Anderson be in the starting line up if the other injured bowlers were fit?
And that's how you chase without wetting your pants.
We could learn a thing or two from the Aussies and this run chase :D
DrYes
02-02-2011, 01:13 PM
What a master stroke to bring Johnson in at 4.Paid off nicely.
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:14 PM
We could learn a thing or two from the Aussies and this run chase :D
Screw the Aussies, we pulled off 438 :D But back then we actually had matchwinners who could take the game away from you. Now we've got Botha and Parnell.
Wicket!!! Still think that with Clarke there (never thought I would say it :o), it should be a doddle.
Screw the Aussies, we pulled off 438 :D But back then we actually had matchwinners who could take the game away from you. Now we've got Botha and Parnell.
My point exactly! And their presence at the wicket is huge! The opposition trembles :p
DrYes
02-02-2011, 01:20 PM
Say what you want but the best ODI's are the ones where a team successfully chases down 300+.
Those matches are unfortunately few and far between.
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:21 PM
Uh-oh, are we about to see them choke here? :D
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:22 PM
Say what you want but the best ODI's are the ones where a team successfully chases down 300+.
Those matches are unfortunately few and far between.
Not really. I still maintain the '99 WC semi final to be at least as good as the 438 match.
SinghDude
02-02-2011, 01:23 PM
Not really. I still maintain the '99 WC semi final to be at least as good as the 438 match.
Why did'nt you run Allan ?:cry:
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 01:23 PM
And that's how you chase without wetting your pants.We could learn a thing or two from the Aussies and this run chase :D
Might have spoke too soon :p.
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Ah Trott having a good dose of South African butter-fingers to let Clarke off the hook.
DrYes
02-02-2011, 01:27 PM
Not really. I still maintain the '99 WC semi final to be at least as good as the 438 match.
Wait a minute are you not refeering to the Donald/Klusener catastrophe.Would rather unwatch that one.The horror,the horror.
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:30 PM
Wait a minute are you not refeering to the Donald/Klusener catastrophe.Would rather unwatch that one.The horror,the horror.
Yeah, but it was an awesome match. We were dead and buried with 9 wickets down, only for Klusener to pull off his usual heroics to get us into a winning position. We all know what happened after that, but it was still a great match, nail-biting stuff!
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 01:30 PM
Clarke gone. 6 from 6 now.
Are the Aussies choking too? :eek:
6 from 6 to win.
Yeah, but it was an awesome match. We were dead and buried with 9 wickets down, only for Klusener to pull off his usual heroics to get us into a winning position. We all know what happened after that, but it was still a great match, nail-biting stuff!
Great match maybe, but for me it remains a horror story. Worse than anything Stephen King could conjure up. :o
SinghDude
02-02-2011, 01:33 PM
Great match maybe, but for me it remains a horror story. Worse than anything Stephen King could conjure up. :o
Horrow show indeed. Everybody forgets that the actual result was a tie.
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:35 PM
And that's a the end of it, Aussies win. Good match :)
Worst! :mad: Aussies win! :(
And that's a the end of it, Aussies win. Good match :)
agreed
Mike Hoxbig
02-02-2011, 01:35 PM
Great match maybe, but for me it remains a horror story. Worse than anything Stephen King could conjure up. :o
The match was tied, but we didn't go through on a retarded rule.
AirWolf
02-02-2011, 01:37 PM
Aussies win with 4 balls to to spare.
Good chase.
The match was tied, but we didn't go through on a retarded rule.
Another fr|gg|ng ICC rule conjured up to protect the Aussies :p
DrYes
02-02-2011, 01:45 PM
Another fr|gg|ng ICC rule conjured up to protect the Aussies :p
The stress disorder that resulted from the '99 game must have have been reseached and labelled Runinitis or Chokosys.
Wow great close contest. Got to watch the England innings only though.
CHURCHILL
02-02-2011, 02:11 PM
@Everyone on this thread, if dont have a DSTV drifta yet, get one asap.I managed to watch the entire second innings, nail biting stuff.
Its well worth it, with the CWC and S15 around the corner its a must.
Edit: No, i dont work for DSTV!!!
@Everyone on this thread, if dont have a DSTV drifta yet, get one asap.I managed to watch the entire second innings, nail biting stuff.
Its well worth it, with the CWC and S15 around the corner its a must.
Edit: No, i dont work for DSTV!!!
Ha! Ha! :D
Disappointing series this. So one sided. 6 - 1 to the Aussies :( There's no doubt they were the better side through the one-dayers.
Perhaps this tour was too long?
If Poms want to have a chance in the WC, they need fit players.