Article: Malema says it was not him on trial for hate speech, but the "revolution"

[rpm]

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ANC Youth League president Julius Malema said on Tuesday it was not him on trial for hate speech, but the "revolution".

"It is not me who is on trial. The revolution is on trial," Malema said through a megaphone to hundreds of supporters pressed against the locked gates of the High Court in Johannesburg.

[marine1]

What f cuking revolution :mad: You bloody idiot.
The revolution is over, wake up

[TJ99]

I didn't even know there was a revolution. Must have missed it while I was watching House or something...

[noxibox]

Is The Revolution the idiot formerly known as Malema? Or merely an alternate personality?

[Ol' Mean Bastid]

"It is not me who is on trial. The revolution is on trial," Malema said through a megaphone to hundreds of supporters pressed against the locked gates of the High Court in Johannesburg.

sad thing is that the hundreds of supporters will believe this douche bag :cry:

[MickeyD]

I wonder which definition JuJu was referring to?

Webster's Definition of REVOLUTION:

1a (1) : the action by a celestial body of going round in an orbit or elliptical course; also : apparent movement of such a body round the earth (2) : the time taken by a celestial body to make a complete round in its orbit (3) : the rotation of a celestial body on its axis
b : completion of a course (as of years); also : the period made by the regular succession of a measure of time or by a succession of similar events
c (1) : a progressive motion of a body around an axis so that any line of the body parallel to the axis returns to its initial position while remaining parallel to the axis in transit and usually at a constant distance from it (2) : motion of any figure about a center or axis <revolution of a right triangle about one of its legs generates a cone> (3) : rotation 1b

2a : a sudden, radical, or complete change
b : a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation
d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm <the Copernican revolution>
e : a changeover in use or preference especially in technology <the computer revolution> <the foreign car revolution>

[Garyvdh]

This idiot is not even in charge of a country yet, and already he has megalomania and delusions of self importance!

Seriously, in Ivory Coast today they are busy removing one older Julius Malema from power and here in SA, we are listening to the crap spewed forth by another younger Laurent Gbagbo.

Do people never learn from history? :mad:

[Ol' Mean Bastid]

Do people never learn from history? :mad:

sadly no :(

[satanboy]

What an imbecile.

[Willie Hartzenberg]

Who is the Revolution , Not The WHITIES .

[boramk]

I actually lol'd

[DigitalSoldier]

sad thing is that the hundreds of supporters will believe this douche bag :cry:

there are a couple of his supporters that will be posting in this thread later defending him at all cost.

[DJ...]

Of course it's the revolution on trial - the revolution of the 3 brain cells spinning around and around and around and around the empty area above his neck, desperately searching for some grey matter to attach themselves to. Sadly, their voyage will end much like that of the Titanic - some great big white thing will inevitably put it out of its misery. I suppose that explains the judge having to issue warnings about weapons in the courtroom...:eek:

[boramk]

Omg its DJ :eek:

[Nothxkbi]

The path by which a single, lonely brain cell constantly rotates around the black hole inside of Malema's skull is known as a Revolution.

[scotty777]

I can't take this any more.I want to know what this revolution he speaks of is... Is it because I'm white that I don't get it? Is this some inside job that will pan out later? Just wtf is he actually talking about? Jesus, I get the feeling that when that man finds his own arse hole it counts as a revolution.

[Fudzy]

Nice one AfriForum, now he's never gonna get off that soapbox.

[MidnightWizard]

Nice one AfriForum, now he's never gonna get off that soapbox.


These idiots have just given him a sh 1 t load of new ammo -- FREE / GRATIS / MAHALA

:mad:

[Fudzy]

Well the fuse has now been lit, now lets all just hope it's all a wet squib.

[Kosmik]

Reminds me of an old saying, a man/women is clever, a mob is as intelligent as it's dumbest member.

[Picard]

Reminds me of an old saying, a man/women is clever, a mob is as intelligent as it's dumbest member.

Men in Black.

No I'm not racist, I'm talking about the quote coming from the movie.

Talking about racism ... I would become a racist if all blacks subscribe to Malema's beliefs.

[nivek]

I can't take this any more.I want to know what this revolution he speaks of is... Is it because I'm white that I don't get it? Is this some inside job that will pan out later? Just wtf is he actually talking about? Jesus, I get the feeling that when that man finds his own arse hole it counts as a revolution.

he probably means a reverse situation of apartheid
ie: apartheid once again, with new victims

[phaktza]

Reminds me of an old saying, a man/women is clever, a mob is as intelligent as it's dumbest member.

And if that member happens to be it's leader? :eek:

[SEF]

What f cuking revolution :mad: You bloody idiot.
The revolution is over, wake up

there was also never a struggle. they got handed the government on a silver platter. what a joke...

[SEF]

i wish the air france plane would hit malema and the ancyl.

[Nothxkbi]

What this country has are real problems of poverty, crime and lack of housing. Malema bangs on about some great revolution, yet instead of doing practical things on the ground like oh I dunno, fulfilling his promises of shoes and wheelchairs to the poor, he finds it easier to bang on the podium screaming revolution and do absolutely nothing. A mouse with a lions roar.

He's all words and no action. I've said this before and I'll say it again, in all his years as ancyl, he's has nothing to show for it. He's made no tangible improvements to this country in any way, shape or form, other than educating us on how much cake he can put back, how racist he really is and that he has a nice mansion in Sandton. Just this morning I saw a bunch of schoolkids without shoes. Nice watch btw.

[SEF]

What this country has are real problems of poverty, crime and lack of housing. Malema bangs on about some great revolution, yet instead of doing practical things on the ground like oh I dunno, fulfilling his promises of shoes and wheelchairs to the poor, he finds it easier to bang on the podium screaming revolution and do absolutely nothing. A mouse with a lions roar.

He's all words and no action. I've said this before and I'll say it again, in all his years as ancyl, he's has nothing to show for it. He's made no tangible improvements to this country in any way, shape or form, other than educating us on how much cake he can put back, how racist he really is and that he has a nice mansion in Sandton. Just this morning I saw a bunch of schoolkids without shoes. Nice watch btw.

He's not interested in improving things. His shoot the boer, says it all. He will only be happy when the white man is removed from africa, and that's all he is interested in.

[nivek]

i wish the air france plane would hit malema and the ancyl.

He'll probably live to 110, like Mugabe, roaches dont die easily :(

[Peon]

Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups


- Homer Simpson


I always wonder what the real point is. Why do I get the feeling the ANC is using this child to deflect attention from them. Zuma's story of his love child with Irvin Khoza broke out, then all of a sudden julius rears up with his nursery rhyme. Now coming up to local elections hes at it again.

I believe the ANC is using julius as a puppet to deflect attention from them and stir up national emotion. Keep the population blaming the evil whites for their misery instead of the leader who pockets the money. Kind of like the old government invented the illusion of the 'swart gevaar'

Once again, the south african people have to put up with a hideous leaders.

[oober]

he probably means a reverse situation of apartheid
ie: apartheid once again, with new victims

Yes, I'm guessing his revolution is about taking everything from any non-revolution minded person, driving them into the ground and along with them the country and everything that it might stand for. Destroying hope for anyone who disagrees with him via any means possible. Ensuring that a small group get everything they could possibly want at the expense of ordinary citizens. Being able to do what you want, including murder, without any consequences etc.

[nivek]

Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups


- Homer Simpson


I always wonder what the real point is. Why do I get the feeling the ANC is using this child to deflect attention from them. Zuma's story of his love child with Irvin Khoza broke out, then all of a sudden julius rears up with his nursery rhyme. Now coming up to local elections hes at it again.

I believe the ANC is using julius as a puppet to deflect attention from them and stir up national emotion. Keep the population blaming the evil whites for their misery instead of the leader who pockets the money. Kind of like the old government invented the illusion of the 'swart gevaar'

Once again, the south african people have to put up with a hideous leaders.

They need to give people a cause to vote for them, since they're not delivering on service, an ongoing struggle against an imaginary enemy will suffice

[Peon]

He'll probably live to 110, like Mugabe, roaches dont die easily :(

Marauders (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Marauder) with stimpacks! Does the job well.

[Nothxkbi]

They need to give people a cause to vote for them, since they're not delivering on service, an ongoing struggle against an imaginary enemy will suffice

+100

That's the bottom line really.

[oober]

+100

That's the bottom line really.

Ohh the enemy is very real in their minds. Their enemy is anyone who has what they want.

[Mila]

Ohh the enemy is very real in their minds. Their enemy is anyone who has what they want.

The Evil Dark Forces!!!
:eek:

Idjits.

[Nothxkbi]

The Evil Dark Forces!!!
:eek:

Idjits.

You forgot the agents.

It just occurred to me, Malema may just be suffering from Paranoid Schitzophrenia (http://www.schizophrenia.com/szparanoid.htm). The symptoms are almost identical.

1. delusions of persecution, reference, exalted birth, special mission, bodily change, or jealousy;

2. Hallucinatory voices that threaten the patient or give commands, or auditory hallucinations without verbal form, such as whistling, humming, or laughing;

3. Thought disorder may be obvious in acute states, but if so it does not prevent the typical delusions or hallulcinations from being described clearly. Affect is usually less blunted than in other varieties of schizophrenia, but a minor degree of incongruity is common, as are mood disturbances such as irritability, sudden anger, fearfulness, and suspicion. "Negative" symptoms such as blunting of affect and impaired volition are often present but do not dominate the clinical picture.

:whistle:

[Ronjay]

What this country has are real problems of poverty, crime and lack of housing. Malema bangs on about some great revolution, yet instead of doing practical things on the ground like oh I dunno, fulfilling his promises of shoes and wheelchairs to the poor, he finds it easier to bang on the podium screaming revolution and do absolutely nothing. A mouse with a lions roar.

He's all words and no action. I've said this before and I'll say it again, in all his years as ancyl, he's has nothing to show for it. He's made no tangible improvements to this country in any way, shape or form, other than educating us on how much cake he can put back, how racist he really is and that he has a nice mansion in Sandton. Just this morning I saw a bunch of schoolkids without shoes. Nice watch btw.

Exactly. Although, to be fair, he's just following the crowd. It's called politics, promise a whole lot of twaddle, get elected, do nothing, and lie to insure that no one knows you are doing nothing. Not many that break the mould.

[blunomore]

Malema back on a pedestal

I hope the Equality Court is going to tell the ANC Youth League’s Julius Malema to stop singing Shoot the Boer in public. It is just too racially charged and the fact that so many South Africans find it deeply offensive is already enough reason.

The argument that it would amount to “erasing our history” is just silly. There are many other struggle songs that can still be sung, and not singing something in public doesn’t make it disappear.

But I’m not convinced it was a good strategy for AfriForum to force the issue and create a huge and very public confrontation.

I’m not convinced that AfriForum had exhausted all efforts to persuade the ANC’s senior leadership to put a ban on the song in public. They could have had the Vryheidsfront Plus leader and deputy minister, Pieter Mulder, the Afrikanerbond and the leaders of Afrikaans churches, cultural organisations and agricultural unions in a powerful delegation to lobby with President Jacob Zuma and his colleagues.

What the court case has achieved in the eyes of the majority so far, is to put Malema back on a pedestal as the brave young black man who is prepared to take on the reactionary whites. There is a real possibility that his tarnished reputation of the last few months will be restored through this process and that he will emerge more powerful afterwards. Much of the nation saw him as a buffoon and a joke until now. Shouldn’t we have left it at that?

Now he has been given a new hero status where he can stand on the court steps and declare: “It is not me who is on trial. The revolution is on trial.”

The polarisation is already clear by the reaction outside the court: chanting and ululating and screaming of “My President!” and awudubhule ibhunu”.

Malema is playing the court case like a master. He arrived at court on the first day with six bodyguards armed with automatic assault rifles. The message was clear: these nasty Boers want me dead. I’m a martyr already.

I thought this macabre procession was an act of intimidation and a threat to public safety. What would happen if a white man made a sudden move in the crowd and one of these goons thought he was a potential attacker? A blood bath. Who gave these men licences to carry such lethal guns anyway?

We could have avoided this polarising show trial if AfriForum had gone the way of negotiation and compromise. We should have as few occasions as possible where whites and blacks are forced to publicly take opposing positions.

But there is a strong counter argument. It goes something like this: activist bodies lobbying on behalf of minorities such as AfriForum and Solidarity should make it clear that their constituency is going to assert their rights and draw a line in the sand, warning that anyone who is threatening their safety or well-being will be fought with all legal means and in line with the constitution.

I think this argument has merit, especially now that the ruling clique in the ANC has embraced a narrow, chauvinist black nationalism.

I don’t subscribe to the view that white South Africans should be “humble” and “apologetic” and “know their place” because of apartheid and colonialism. That would simply reinforce the case of those who want to paint whites as settlers or “colonialists of a special kind” – in other words, not proper first class citizens, not Africans.

I am an indigenous South African and African with the same rights to be here and be happy here than Malema or anyone else.

I do think, though, that whites should be sensitive and not be in denial about the past, and I think whites have a special responsibility to help make this country a better place, even when they sometimes feel such help isn’t wanted.

But no-one respects what we call in Afrikaans a gatkruiper.

I think the best strategy for minority groups would be a delicate balance between being assertive and being diplomatic , assessing their strategies on a case to case basis.

Perhaps AfriForum should have followed the diplomatic route with Malema this time round.

PS. Isn’t it about time black people stopped calling white South Africans ibhunu and Afrikaans isiBhunu? The root of the words is Boer, which has always had a pejorative connotation.


http://www.news24.com/Columnists/MaxduPreez/Malema-back-on-a-pedestal-20110413

[Hansolo]

Men in Black.

No I'm not racist, I'm talking about the quote coming from the movie.

Talking about racism ... I would become a racist if all blacks subscribe to Malema's beliefs.

I think most do, surely they must know about the rampant corruption by now. I guess they see it as a necessary evil I don't think they hate us, but they are more interested in their own circumstances. They want what we have and if we have to suffer for it well too bad, we've had it too good for too long. They won't be happy till the situation is completely reversed. Thing is it will probably be to their own detriment in the end, Malema president for life. Big Dadda II.

[MidnightWizard]

Thing is it will probably be to their own detriment in the end,
Malema president for life.
Big Dadda II.


During his years in power, Amin was backed by Libya's Muammar al-Gaddafi as well as the Soviet Union and East Germany. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin) ( AND Israel & Britain )

Idi Amin DADA
or
Big DADDY

Please try and be accurate !

You can give this to Malema for Youth Day

Idi Amin -- Hero or Villain (http://www.idiamindada.com/)

I assume he reads ?

[MidnightWizard]

is Boer, which has always had a pejorative connotation.


With good reason ( As any dedicated and astute student of South African history will know )

:whistle:

[Palimino]

Reminds me of an old saying, a man/women is clever, a mob is as intelligent as it's dumbest member.

I heard the formula was the highest IQ present divided by the number of the mob. The problem with that is that you get into negative numbers with a big mob.

[Palimino]

Kind of like the old government invented the illusion of the 'swart gevaar'

Turning out to be not so much of an illusion.

[Palimino]

But I’m not convinced it was a good strategy for AfriForum to force the issue and create a huge and very public confrontation.

I’m not convinced that AfriForum had exhausted all efforts to persuade the ANC’s senior leadership to put a ban on the song in public. They could have had the Vryheidsfront Plus leader and deputy minister, Pieter Mulder, the Afrikanerbond and the leaders of Afrikaans churches, cultural organisations and agricultural unions in a powerful delegation to lobby with President Jacob Zuma and his colleagues.

Then again it could be **exactly** the strategy that AfriForum desired. You are working on the assumption of further appeasement and ‘negotiation’. Maybe AfriForum are fed-up with strategies that don’t work and are garnering support and polarizing society for their own ends. The medicine they are thinking of administering may be bitter and horrible but it cures the disease.

[blunomore]

When is the sherrif paying Juju a visit for the R50K he owes to the Sonke Gender Justice Network ? When will his appeal be heard?

[Mila]

When is the sherrif paying Juju a visit for the R50K he owes to the Sonke Gender Justice Network ? When will his appeal be heard?

Like you said. People should realy not give the Idjit more reason to be in the public. Afriforum should not have played the race card. The simple fact is, the song was banned. He should pay or serve time.

[Palimino]

Like you said. People should realy not give the Idjit more reason to be in the public. Afriforum should not have played the race card. The simple fact is, the song was banned. He should pay or serve time.

I don’t think you appreciate the corner AfriForum is being forced into. They must be under intense pressure from their membership and may be drawing a line in the sand. Jack-up law enforcement or cross the line and pay the consequences. AfriForum is made-up of many people, some of them pretty talented. They are highly motivated. I doubt that MyBB members can out think them. They are aware of the ramifications and possible consequences of what they do. They may make errors in judgment, but it won’t be out of ignorance. They know, far better than the ANC, the hardships and misery of possible confrontation but they are being left with no choice or escape route except total appeasement and laying-down to be walked over. This is not an option.

[MidnightWizard]

I don’t think you appreciate the corner AfriForum is being forced into.
They must be under intense pressure from their membership and may be drawing a line in the sand.


Like the very new red painters .......
They have painted themselves into a corner.



Jack-up law enforcement or cross the line and pay the consequences.
AfriForum is made-up of many people,some of them pretty talented.
They are highly motivated.
I doubt that MyBB members can out think them.


Speak for yourself -- think again.



They are aware of the ramifications and possible consequences of what they do.
They may make errors in judgment, but it won’t be out of ignorance.
They know, far better than the ANC, the hardships and misery of possible confrontation but they are being left with no choice or escape route except total appeasement and laying-down to be walked over.
This is not an option.


Typical old NP "Us" & "Them" type dinosuar thinking.

I wonder if anyone of them can tell me what Patrice Lumumba said to the youth celebrating independence ?

I wonder if anyone of them has a degree in AFRICAN history / Politics ( and NOT from UP , SUN , PUKKE ) ?

I wonder how many of them were in Five Commando ?

As an introduction this might help

Barrel of a Gun (http://www.terryaspinall.com/03merc/books/barrel-of-a-gun.html)

:whistle:

[Mila]

I don’t think you appreciate the corner AfriForum is being forced into. They must be under intense pressure from their membership and may be drawing a line in the sand. Jack-up law enforcement or cross the line and pay the consequences. AfriForum is made-up of many people, some of them pretty talented. They are highly motivated. I doubt that MyBB members can out think them. They are aware of the ramifications and possible consequences of what they do. They may make errors in judgment, but it won’t be out of ignorance. They know, far better than the ANC, the hardships and misery of possible confrontation but they are being left with no choice or escape route except total appeasement and laying-down to be walked over. This is not an option.
And they are playing into the ANC's hand.
While The village Idiot and Afri is doing their dance ,in the media, trials are on going they(the anc) would rather have the focus off.

[Palimino]

I wonder if anyone of them can tell me what Patrice Lumumba said to the youth celebrating independence ?

Are these like the broken promises and BS typical of African politicians?


I wonder if anyone of them has a degree in AFRICAN history / Politics ( and NOT from UP , SUN , PUKKE)

Are these the one’s you get over the Internet? Where you pay X amount and sign an affidavit that your ‘life experience’ qualifies you for a degree?

[Fudzy]

And they are playing into the ANC's hand.
While The village Idiot and Afri is doing their dance ,in the media, trials are on going they(the anc) would rather have the focus off.

You seen that video of Steve Hofmeyer and his AfriForum compadres trying to deliver the ultimatum to the ANC HQ? If you ever wanted to see a visual representation of why AfriForum are failing check that chap trying to barge into the place.

[Mila]

You seen that video of Steve Hofmeyer and his AfriForum compadres trying to deliver the ultimatum to the ANC HQ? If you ever wanted to see a visual representation of why AfriForum are failing check that chap trying to barge into the place.

I have not:
1. Steve Stofsuier :sick:
2. He is a blue Bull
3. Afriforum seemed like a good idea but they fail so badly.

Nah thanx I also switch channels when the village Idiot are on.

[gregmcc]

The revolution??!! WTF is this clown on about! Wake up you git! Its 2011 - there's no fckn revolution!

[Nothxkbi]

You seen that video of Steve Hofmeyer and his AfriForum compadres trying to deliver the ultimatum to the ANC HQ? If you ever wanted to see a visual representation of why AfriForum are failing check that chap trying to barge into the place.


I have not:
1. Steve Stofsuier :sick:
2. He is a blue Bull
3. Afriforum seemed like a good idea but they fail so badly.

Nah thanx I also switch channels when the village Idiot are on.

This awefull mess :sick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kccJbeSCUv8

[Mila]

This awefull mess :sick:




ag nee sies man.